/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/10/27/#ubuntu-mate.txt

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Guest34520sorry01:01
Guest34520just new here01:02
alexrb1000how do i uninstall ubuntu02:46
=== mortalius__ is now known as mortalius
kevpican some one help me get me hdmi sound to work on my raspberry pi 3?10:23
ubuntu-mateWow, Ubuntu mate 16.10 is a huge improvement13:02
mate|59723hi everyone , someone can help please ...!13:44
=== johnc4510 is now known as Ed_Vortex
mate|59723the bar at the top of my ubuntu mate have gone , how can i get it back ... ?13:46
mate|59723anyone know how please ...13:46
mate|59723on the top write corner normally it was 3 littles signe one with a cross to close any windows13:48
mate|59723this is gone and i can not close any application i open... !13:49
mate|59723any help please ???13:49
mate|59723?13:51
mate|59723anyone there .......?13:52
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mate|25883What's going on. I just upgraded my main machine to 16.10 and my dvd drives are useless!15:27
ouroumovflexiondotorg, hello15:32
korpaI can not install java in ubuntu mate15:35
flexiondotorgouroumov, Yo15:39
ouroumovflexiondotorg, that bounty thing seems to work15:41
flexiondotorgReally?15:41
flexiondotorgI've not heard back from Bounty Source that they've set up what we need?15:42
ouroumovAnd well it appears I was wrong. Turns out bug was not in mate-panel15:42
ouroumovflexiondotorg, what did you ask from them? :o15:43
G__81Hi i am using Ubuntu mate 16.04 and i am using the Marco Compton GPU compositor. I would like to know if i can change the alt+tab settings to something similar to what i see in the software compositor15:46
ouroumovG__81, not that I know of15:48
ouroumovG__81, compton is very limited by design15:49
G__81ouroumov, oh the default option is better then ?15:50
G__81ouroumov, is there a way to at least increase the icon size when i do alt + tab ?15:51
ouroumovG__81, again, not that I know of15:53
ouroumovG__81, the default option is not always better, it depends what you do with the machine15:53
ouroumovG__81, for instance, compton is the way to go if you want tear-free video playback15:53
G__81compiz is too complicated for me. I use my machine for development purposes and yes listening to music and watching movies as well15:54
Akuliwhat exactly do you want alt+tab to do?15:55
Akulito me it switches windows in marco  just fine15:55
G__81Akuli, i just want to increase the size of the icons which gets displayed when i do alt+tab or if possible i want the windows preview like what i get in marco15:56
G__81i am currently using Compton Compositor. Want to know if i can get the same view in compton as how i get when i use Marco Alt + tab15:56
Akulias a developer you'll probably find yourself spending most of the time on the same terminal anyway15:57
Akuliwhich is the terminal that your editor runs on15:57
ouroumovMaybe he's using a graphical editor :x15:59
ouroumovOr and IDE :x15:59
ouroumov-d15:59
Akuliabout the same thing, still staying in the same window most of the time15:59
G__81Akuli, no the icons in alt+tab is quite small just want to know if i can increase the size, something like what we get in xfce16:00
Akulimaybe you could run xfce's window manager with mate?16:00
G__81Akuli, i have not tried. If mate does not have a default option, its fine i can just revert back to default Marco Software compositor and its just fine16:01
Akulii don't think it has16:01
guest-2eqmae  helplp16:01
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Akuliwhats the problem?16:01
G__81just wanted to know if i am missing something or some hidden option in dconf16:01
G__81Thanks Akuli16:01
guest-2eqmaejhggg16:01
Akulidconf dump /org/mate/marco/ doesn't show anything interesting16:02
G__81oh ok thanks16:02
Akuliso i guess you'd need to edit the source and compile marco16:02
G__81oh ok No problem. I will stay with Marco Software compositor. It works fine16:03
shifty...16:10
alfikribonjour tt le monde17:20
chelioshi there, I am running MATE desktop on 16.04 I previously enabled focus follows mouse but now I would like to turn it off. I set focus-mode to click and unchecked auto-raise but it still does focus follows mouse. Any ideas?18:55
ouroumov_hi chelios19:19
chelioshi ouroumov_19:20
ighey19:48
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Mayday010anyone here?20:13
Mayday010has anyone been having display issues with 16.10?20:16
ouroumov_hi Mayday01020:20
ouroumov_Mayday010, what kind of issue?20:20
Mayday010I have a 2 monitor set up, and when I mouse across video will freeze for a split second20:22
Mayday010sometimes things will flash as well20:22
=== ubuntu-mate is now known as pall51
pall51guys, i'm having a little problem. i installed ubuntu mate but didn't get any kind of bootloader after a boot and it booted straight to windows, any hints what should i do?20:58
Mayday010do you have to install grub on the boot partition?21:01
pall51well yea, i have grub inside boot folder21:03
pall51but boot partition?21:03
Mayday010I'm not an expert at this, but from the little experience I got making a live usb, you need to install grub on the boot partition.  Which ever partition your pc is reading to boot21:04
simon_Hi there, yes GRUB needs to be installed to whichever disk (not partition) your PC is booting from21:05
Mayday010If its booting into windows I would think you might have to install it to the windows partition, unless you have a partition specifically labeled as boot21:05
simon_So if your root is installed on sdb and your boot device is sda. GRUB needs to be installed to sda.21:05
pall51i just checked my bios and it only shows that it's either primarily booting from internal or external drive, not asking about any partition21:05
Mayday010you'd have to check the disk its self21:06
simon_Have a look here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB21:07
simon_When installing GRUB it is installed to sda not to sda1 etc21:07
Mayday010I'm not sure how windows partitions their install, but if you have a partition that is labeled / marked as boot you would install it there, then make grub link back to your linux install21:08
simon_Pass on the windows. Not installed a Microsoft system for a decade! From memory however there is a package called os-probe (or someting like that) that will find the Windows install if is already in place. Think the windows "boot disk" is untouch and GRUB chain loads into it.21:10
Mayday010if its easier you could use a live usb to look at your partitions too, instead of getting special software for that.21:11
pall512yeah, i'm actually using a live usb right now and trying to find out what to do21:12
simon_True. A live usb will let you look.21:13
Mayday010go to your terminal21:13
Mayday010type in sudo fdisk -l21:13
pall512i have windows' 200gb volume partition and linux's 50gb one, both on same ssd and i don't have any other hard drives. can't look at windows' partition tho, calling that it's unable to mount 200gb volume21:13
Mayday010one of the partitions on the windows disk will have an asterisk on that line marking boot partition21:14
pall512one kind of pain in the ass because i have finnish keyboard and live usb only has us keyboard layout21:15
pall512fdisk -l says "permission denied" to all21:16
pall512oh, sudo.. of course21:16
Mayday010Its been a while since I've mounted a windows partition.  You may need to experiment with some options, but your general command shoudl be "mount -t ntfs  /windows/disk  /mount/partition"21:17
Mayday010oh, with sudo also21:17
pall51ummh..21:19
pall51can't see no asterisk anywhere21:21
Mayday010did it show all the partitions for all your disks?21:22
pall51or i do have my known partitions listed from sda1 to sda8 but then there's some isolated rams, loops etc21:22
pall51there's also one isolated boot device but it's my usb stick21:23
Mayday010wouldn't be in ram.  It should be one of your sd devices, most likely sda21:23
pall51it can affect that i do have external drive as primary boot option because otherwise my laptop wont boot from usb..21:24
Mayday010I don't think so.  it should show all connected devices regardless of where it actually booted from21:25
pall51is there any way i can screenshot this and send it? it'd be way too much spam to just copy and paste21:26
Mayday010try this.  sudo fdisk -l | grep '\*' | grep /dev21:27
Mayday010that should pull up just a list of boot partitions21:27
jticketIs ntfs-3g installed by default?21:27
pall51./dev/sdb1  *     2048 7823359 7821312  3.7G  c W95 FAT32 (LBA)21:29
pall51but that's my usb :/21:30
Mayday010check what jticket said.  is ntfs-3g installed.    sudo dpkg -l | grep ntfs21:31
pall51ii  ntfs-3g                               1:2015.3.14AR.1-1build1                    amd64        read/write NTFS driver for FUSE21:32
pall51thanks guys for your help, i appreciate it very much since i don't have much experience on linux21:33
Mayday010np, I finally get to test out what I've been learning.  since I'm relatively new too21:34
Mayday010is that the only line?  on my system I also have a ii  libntfs-3g871                               1:2016.2.22AR.1-3                           amd64        read/write NTFS driver for FUSE (runtime library)21:34
pall51hah21:34
pall51yeah, those are the only lanes21:35
Mayday010how big is the windows drive?21:35
pall51it's approx. 200gbs, the linux is 5021:36
pall51and i cant access it from linux21:37
Mayday010I'm not sure why your other disks aren't showing up21:38
pall51on ubuntus file explorer it's showing also sonysys, inside it is a folder named efi and inside it is folder named boot..21:39
Mayday010what if you do   ls /dev | grep sd21:39
pall51sda21:40
pall51sda121:40
pall51sda221:40
pall51sda321:40
pall51sda421:40
pall51sda521:40
pall51sda621:40
cheliosis anyone able to tell me how I can disable focus follows mouse?21:40
pall51sda721:40
pall51sda821:40
pall51sdb21:40
pall51sdb121:40
pall51ohgod sorry21:40
Mayday010I'm assuming sda is the disk you installed linux on?21:42
pall51that's the only disk i got21:42
Mayday010I'm sorry chelios I don't know21:43
cheliosMayday010: no problem21:43
cheliosI'll keep asking and eventually I'll find the right person :-)21:43
Mayday010pall51: did you install linux on the same disk and windows, just different partition?21:45
pall51yeah21:46
pall51that sda is my only disk and i made 50gb partition out of it for linux, and installed it on it21:46
Mayday010ok , I think that makes more sense now21:47
Mayday010I'm still not sure why there is not listing for a boot partition though21:47
Mayday010so I have 2 thoughts21:47
Mayday0101.  check your  bios and make sure secure boot is turned off.  I hear that will prevent you from booting into linux21:48
pall51secure boot is turned off since it didnt let me boot of usb stick without it being off21:48
Mayday010and 2.  if that looks good you'd have to install grub to /sda21:48
pall51okaayyy...21:50
Mayday010which partition is your ok installed on?21:50
pall51ok?21:50
Mayday010oh, I guess you could try one other thing21:51
Mayday010flag that linux partition as boot21:51
Mayday010sudo fdisk -l | grep -i linux21:52
pall51and to make sure i dont know did i already say this but there's also that sonysys sony boot partition, i couldnt delete it because its my only way to get into bios21:52
pall51it gave me this :/dev/sda7  395259904 483530751  88270848  42.1G Linux filesystem21:53
Mayday010I'm thinking of just flagging the linux partition, not doing anything with the others21:53
pall51and this: /dev/sda8  483530752 500117503  16586752   7.9G Linux swap21:54
Mayday010ok I'm gussing that's where linux is installed /dev/sda721:54
Mayday010so you can do sudo fdisk /dev/sda21:54
Mayday010you can hit 'm' anytime you need instructions21:55
Mayday010but hit p to list your partitions21:55
pall51aaightt21:55
Mayday010hit 'a' to toggle boot21:56
pall51a: unknown command21:56
pall51umm21:56
Mayday010are you still in the fdisk program,  or back at the command line21:56
pall51still in the fdisk21:57
Mayday010a21:57
Mayday010without quotes, or colon21:57
pall51well, thats exactly what i did21:57
pall51Command (m for help): a a: unknown command21:58
pall51weird21:58
Mayday010ok, shoudl show a list of elligable boot partitions.  hopefully 7 is there21:58
Mayday010enter 721:58
pall51unknown command21:58
Mayday010721:59
pall51Command (m for help): 7 7: unknown command21:59
pall51on help it doesn't show 'a' command22:00
Mayday010ok where did you get the first unknown command?22:00
pall51on a22:00
pall51m and p went like a charm22:00
pall51but a is unknown22:00
pall51can this be because im running on live usb?22:02
Mayday010that's wierd22:02
Mayday010not sure.  I wouldn't think so22:02
Mayday010so if you hit m  that  list of options doesn't have a listed22:03
pall51yeah, theres no command a22:03
pall51only dFlnptvi mx IO wq gGos22:03
pall51and there's nothing called toggle boot22:04
Mayday010I'm not sure now.  I'm pretty much out of ideas22:07
pall51:/22:08
pall51tried some googleing and found about some boot-repair, maybe i should try that, idk22:09
Mayday010possibly22:10
=== pavlushka- is now known as pavlushka
Mayday010I could be wrong, but maybe if windows was installed first, that could be the default loader22:10
pall512i'm already in trouble with linux although i haven't even got into it yet22:10
Mayday010maybe its a windows issue, in that you'd have to alter that boot loader to give a linux option22:11
pall512i'll log out of the other account so i can try to check if there's something wrong in bios, but stay here with this nick22:12
Mayday010either that, or you could try to install grub, but that would stop you from being able to boot into linux,  if its not done right22:12
pall512damn..22:13
pall512although i just reinstalled windows and linux so i got nothing to lose to be honest22:13
Mayday010I'd just stick with linux.  and use a vm or wine for any windows applications22:14
pall512the problem here is that i use photoshop almost everyday22:15
pall512of course i have a desktop which has windows but i carry my laptop in uni everyday22:15
Mayday010personal use or business?22:15
pall512just personal22:15
jticketAre you planning to use EFI?22:15
Mayday010they have comparable software for linux if you're up for learning it22:15
pall512efi?22:15
pall512okayy... what's is called?22:15
pall512it*22:15
jticketIs your system EFI? call efibootmgr in the terminal and see if it gives boot options.22:15
pall51sorry for spam in ahead of time:22:16
pall51ubuntu-mate@ubuntu-mate:~$ efibootmgr22:16
pall51BootCurrent: 000C22:16
pall51Timeout: 0 seconds22:16
pall51BootOrder: 000C,0005,0009,0000,000B22:16
pall51Boot0000* Windows Boot Manager22:16
pall51Boot0005* Sony Original22:16
pall51Boot0009* Windows Boot Manager22:16
pall51Boot000B* Windows Boot Manager22:16
pall51Boot000C* UEFI: VerbatimSTORE N GO 5.0022:16
jticketYep. Your bios is EFI.22:19
jticketIs the legacy option enabled in your bios?22:20
pall512just a second22:20
pall512no22:22
pall512boot mode is on uefi22:22
jticketDo you have an ESP, efi system partition?22:22
pall512umm, sorry but i have no idea22:23
pall512what do you mean by that?22:23
jticketDo you have a partition listed as ef00 in fdisk when you enter p22:23
pall512i think there was not22:24
jticketHmm. Does windows boot fine?22:24
pall512yes, like a charm22:24
pall512i have a really bad feeling, i deleted some partitions before reinstalling windows22:24
pall512not sure if i did fuck up, even that i didnt delete that sonysys22:25
pall512there's no ef00 but there is efi system in fdisk22:26
jticketWhat output do you get on p when you fdisk?22:26
pall512sorry, i did remember wrong22:26
jticketYep. So you do have a boot partition.22:26
jticketpall512: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Converting_Ubuntu_into_UEFI_mode22:27
jticketJust remember to turn off fast startup in later versions of windows or it'll fuck windows up22:27
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pall51sorry! Device         Start       End   Sectors   Size Type22:28
Mayday010according to Ubuntu's site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot  all you have to do is change the grub to point to the windows partition.22:28
jticketAnd use 64 bit ubuntu as well.22:28
pall51well, that was embarrassing spam22:28
Mayday010no instructions on how to do that though22:28
jticketinstall boot-repair and os-prober and then run boot-repair in the live environment.22:29
pall512ummh.. okay, let's see if i can do this22:29
pall512no instructions might be little problem :D22:30
jticketboot from the usb or cd and go to terminal and sudo apt-get install boot-repair os-prober22:31
pall512is it just that22:31
pall512sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair or these22:32
jticketYes, but after install also add os-prober22:32
pall512umm.. so, which commands?22:32
jticketsudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair os-prober && boot-repair22:33
pall512reading comprehension 10 out of 10 points for me22:33
Mayday010since he's on a live usb I don't think adding the ppa is really benefiting anything22:34
jticketIt might if it's not there by default and boot-repair isn't in the ubunto repos.22:34
pall512boot repair opened22:35
pall512but how about that os-prober?22:35
jticketThat runs with grub, so you don't have to worry about it.22:35
pall512but i didnt install it yet22:35
jticketAs long as it's installed it'll check to see if windows is installed.22:35
pall512umm22:38
pall512separate /boot/efi partition is already checked, and it's on sda522:38
jticketyou can go ahead and boot repair.22:38
pall512on drop menu the other choice is to choose sda122:38
jticketLeave the efi partition checked as is.22:39
pall512and after it install os-probe?22:40
pall512prober*22:40
jticketInstall os-prober before running boot-repair. Come to think of it, it should be there by default.22:41
pall512before..?22:41
pall512well, i did run boot-repair already :|22:41
pall512do i have to install it now and do the boot-repair again?22:43
pall512did it but still no success, still booted straight to windows. secure boot is disabled, boot mode uefi22:48
Mayday010@Mayday01022:56
Mayday010I'm out see ya guys later22:56
jticketLook at your bios boot options and see if you have linux boot manager22:57
jticketmaybe f12 or whatever your boot menu key is pall51222:57
pall512i dont have any options on that in my bios :/22:57
jticketIt's not in the boot menu/boot sequence?22:58
jticketYou'll have to see if your bios supports adding a boot entry manually then.22:59
jticketIt looks fine, your bios is probably hard coded.22:59
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jticketpall512 Is your laptop an hp?23:02
pall512no, sony vaio23:03
pall512and no, there's actually not much of boot options. only external/internal choice23:03
jticketLook in your bios then and see if you can manually add a boot entry.23:04
pall512i cant add :/23:05
jticketThen it's probably hard coded to EFI/Microsoft/bootx74.efi or something like that.23:05
jticketbootx64.efi23:05
pall512http://paste2.org/BYNzGUep23:07
pall512in windows system configuration boot menu it only shows windows 10..23:09
jticketLooks like 2 EFI partitions. Strange.23:11
pall512oh god23:12
jticketsta1 and sta523:12
pall512it's 2 in the night and i've to wake up in 4 hours :D if i cant make this work i'm just going to give up and just delete windows totally23:13
green_what's the problem?23:14
pall512should i still try to separate boot efi to sda123:14
pall512well, i just reinstalled windows and tried to make linux to dual boot, but after the installation of linux it just boots straight to windows without opening grub23:14
green_try installing linux again23:21
pall512well, i gotta go to sleep now, way too tired to even try anything anymore. i'll join back tomorrow to cry out for more help. thank you for helping, it means a lot!23:24
green_anytime, sleep well :)23:24

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