=== larry is now known as Guest34520 [01:01] sorry [01:02] just new here [02:46] how do i uninstall ubuntu === mortalius__ is now known as mortalius [10:23] can some one help me get me hdmi sound to work on my raspberry pi 3? [13:02] Wow, Ubuntu mate 16.10 is a huge improvement [13:44] hi everyone , someone can help please ...! === johnc4510 is now known as Ed_Vortex [13:46] the bar at the top of my ubuntu mate have gone , how can i get it back ... ? [13:46] anyone know how please ... [13:48] on the top write corner normally it was 3 littles signe one with a cross to close any windows [13:49] this is gone and i can not close any application i open... ! [13:49] any help please ??? [13:51] ? [13:52] anyone there .......? === Ed_Vortex is now known as johnc4510 [15:27] What's going on. I just upgraded my main machine to 16.10 and my dvd drives are useless! [15:32] flexiondotorg, hello [15:35] I can not install java in ubuntu mate [15:39] ouroumov, Yo [15:41] flexiondotorg, that bounty thing seems to work [15:41] Really? [15:42] I've not heard back from Bounty Source that they've set up what we need? [15:42] And well it appears I was wrong. Turns out bug was not in mate-panel [15:43] flexiondotorg, what did you ask from them? :o [15:46] Hi i am using Ubuntu mate 16.04 and i am using the Marco Compton GPU compositor. I would like to know if i can change the alt+tab settings to something similar to what i see in the software compositor [15:48] G__81, not that I know of [15:49] G__81, compton is very limited by design [15:50] ouroumov, oh the default option is better then ? [15:51] ouroumov, is there a way to at least increase the icon size when i do alt + tab ? [15:53] G__81, again, not that I know of [15:53] G__81, the default option is not always better, it depends what you do with the machine [15:53] G__81, for instance, compton is the way to go if you want tear-free video playback [15:54] compiz is too complicated for me. I use my machine for development purposes and yes listening to music and watching movies as well [15:55] what exactly do you want alt+tab to do? [15:55] to me it switches windows in marco just fine [15:56] Akuli, i just want to increase the size of the icons which gets displayed when i do alt+tab or if possible i want the windows preview like what i get in marco [15:56] i am currently using Compton Compositor. Want to know if i can get the same view in compton as how i get when i use Marco Alt + tab [15:57] as a developer you'll probably find yourself spending most of the time on the same terminal anyway [15:57] which is the terminal that your editor runs on [15:59] Maybe he's using a graphical editor :x [15:59] Or and IDE :x [15:59] -d [15:59] about the same thing, still staying in the same window most of the time [16:00] Akuli, no the icons in alt+tab is quite small just want to know if i can increase the size, something like what we get in xfce [16:00] maybe you could run xfce's window manager with mate? [16:01] Akuli, i have not tried. If mate does not have a default option, its fine i can just revert back to default Marco Software compositor and its just fine [16:01] i don't think it has [16:01] helplp [16:01] hfgcgg [16:01] whats the problem? [16:01] just wanted to know if i am missing something or some hidden option in dconf [16:01] Thanks Akuli [16:01] jhggg [16:02] dconf dump /org/mate/marco/ doesn't show anything interesting [16:02] oh ok thanks [16:02] so i guess you'd need to edit the source and compile marco [16:03] oh ok No problem. I will stay with Marco Software compositor. It works fine [16:10] ... [17:20] bonjour tt le monde [18:55] hi there, I am running MATE desktop on 16.04 I previously enabled focus follows mouse but now I would like to turn it off. I set focus-mode to click and unchecked auto-raise but it still does focus follows mouse. Any ideas? [19:19] hi chelios [19:20] hi ouroumov_ [19:48] hey === ig is now known as Guest73295 [20:13] anyone here? [20:16] has anyone been having display issues with 16.10? [20:20] hi Mayday010 [20:20] Mayday010, what kind of issue? [20:22] I have a 2 monitor set up, and when I mouse across video will freeze for a split second [20:22] sometimes things will flash as well === ubuntu-mate is now known as pall51 [20:58] guys, i'm having a little problem. i installed ubuntu mate but didn't get any kind of bootloader after a boot and it booted straight to windows, any hints what should i do? [21:01] do you have to install grub on the boot partition? [21:03] well yea, i have grub inside boot folder [21:03] but boot partition? [21:04] I'm not an expert at this, but from the little experience I got making a live usb, you need to install grub on the boot partition. Which ever partition your pc is reading to boot [21:05] Hi there, yes GRUB needs to be installed to whichever disk (not partition) your PC is booting from [21:05] If its booting into windows I would think you might have to install it to the windows partition, unless you have a partition specifically labeled as boot [21:05] So if your root is installed on sdb and your boot device is sda. GRUB needs to be installed to sda. [21:05] i just checked my bios and it only shows that it's either primarily booting from internal or external drive, not asking about any partition [21:06] you'd have to check the disk its self [21:07] Have a look here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB [21:07] When installing GRUB it is installed to sda not to sda1 etc [21:08] I'm not sure how windows partitions their install, but if you have a partition that is labeled / marked as boot you would install it there, then make grub link back to your linux install [21:10] Pass on the windows. Not installed a Microsoft system for a decade! From memory however there is a package called os-probe (or someting like that) that will find the Windows install if is already in place. Think the windows "boot disk" is untouch and GRUB chain loads into it. [21:11] if its easier you could use a live usb to look at your partitions too, instead of getting special software for that. [21:12] yeah, i'm actually using a live usb right now and trying to find out what to do [21:13] True. A live usb will let you look. [21:13] go to your terminal [21:13] type in sudo fdisk -l [21:13] i have windows' 200gb volume partition and linux's 50gb one, both on same ssd and i don't have any other hard drives. can't look at windows' partition tho, calling that it's unable to mount 200gb volume [21:14] one of the partitions on the windows disk will have an asterisk on that line marking boot partition [21:15] one kind of pain in the ass because i have finnish keyboard and live usb only has us keyboard layout [21:16] fdisk -l says "permission denied" to all [21:16] oh, sudo.. of course [21:17] Its been a while since I've mounted a windows partition. You may need to experiment with some options, but your general command shoudl be "mount -t ntfs /windows/disk /mount/partition" [21:17] oh, with sudo also [21:19] ummh.. [21:21] can't see no asterisk anywhere [21:22] did it show all the partitions for all your disks? [21:22] or i do have my known partitions listed from sda1 to sda8 but then there's some isolated rams, loops etc [21:23] there's also one isolated boot device but it's my usb stick [21:23] wouldn't be in ram. It should be one of your sd devices, most likely sda [21:24] it can affect that i do have external drive as primary boot option because otherwise my laptop wont boot from usb.. [21:25] I don't think so. it should show all connected devices regardless of where it actually booted from [21:26] is there any way i can screenshot this and send it? it'd be way too much spam to just copy and paste [21:27] try this. sudo fdisk -l | grep '\*' | grep /dev [21:27] that should pull up just a list of boot partitions [21:27] Is ntfs-3g installed by default? [21:29] ./dev/sdb1 * 2048 7823359 7821312 3.7G c W95 FAT32 (LBA) [21:30] but that's my usb :/ [21:31] check what jticket said. is ntfs-3g installed. sudo dpkg -l | grep ntfs [21:32] ii ntfs-3g 1:2015.3.14AR.1-1build1 amd64 read/write NTFS driver for FUSE [21:33] thanks guys for your help, i appreciate it very much since i don't have much experience on linux [21:34] np, I finally get to test out what I've been learning. since I'm relatively new too [21:34] is that the only line? on my system I also have a ii libntfs-3g871 1:2016.2.22AR.1-3 amd64 read/write NTFS driver for FUSE (runtime library) [21:34] hah [21:35] yeah, those are the only lanes [21:35] how big is the windows drive? [21:36] it's approx. 200gbs, the linux is 50 [21:37] and i cant access it from linux [21:38] I'm not sure why your other disks aren't showing up [21:39] on ubuntus file explorer it's showing also sonysys, inside it is a folder named efi and inside it is folder named boot.. [21:39] what if you do ls /dev | grep sd [21:40] sda [21:40] sda1 [21:40] sda2 [21:40] sda3 [21:40] sda4 [21:40] sda5 [21:40] sda6 [21:40] is anyone able to tell me how I can disable focus follows mouse? [21:40] sda7 [21:40] sda8 [21:40] sdb [21:40] sdb1 [21:40] ohgod sorry [21:42] I'm assuming sda is the disk you installed linux on? [21:42] that's the only disk i got [21:43] I'm sorry chelios I don't know [21:43] Mayday010: no problem [21:43] I'll keep asking and eventually I'll find the right person :-) [21:45] pall51: did you install linux on the same disk and windows, just different partition? [21:46] yeah [21:46] that sda is my only disk and i made 50gb partition out of it for linux, and installed it on it [21:47] ok , I think that makes more sense now [21:47] I'm still not sure why there is not listing for a boot partition though [21:47] so I have 2 thoughts [21:48] 1. check your bios and make sure secure boot is turned off. I hear that will prevent you from booting into linux [21:48] secure boot is turned off since it didnt let me boot of usb stick without it being off [21:48] and 2. if that looks good you'd have to install grub to /sda [21:50] okaayyy... [21:50] which partition is your ok installed on? [21:50] ok? [21:51] oh, I guess you could try one other thing [21:51] flag that linux partition as boot [21:52] sudo fdisk -l | grep -i linux [21:52] and to make sure i dont know did i already say this but there's also that sonysys sony boot partition, i couldnt delete it because its my only way to get into bios [21:53] it gave me this :/dev/sda7 395259904 483530751 88270848 42.1G Linux filesystem [21:53] I'm thinking of just flagging the linux partition, not doing anything with the others [21:54] and this: /dev/sda8 483530752 500117503 16586752 7.9G Linux swap [21:54] ok I'm gussing that's where linux is installed /dev/sda7 [21:54] so you can do sudo fdisk /dev/sda [21:55] you can hit 'm' anytime you need instructions [21:55] but hit p to list your partitions [21:55] aaightt [21:56] hit 'a' to toggle boot [21:56] a: unknown command [21:56] umm [21:56] are you still in the fdisk program, or back at the command line [21:57] still in the fdisk [21:57] a [21:57] without quotes, or colon [21:57] well, thats exactly what i did [21:58] Command (m for help): a a: unknown command [21:58] weird [21:58] ok, shoudl show a list of elligable boot partitions. hopefully 7 is there [21:58] enter 7 [21:58] unknown command [21:59] 7 [21:59] Command (m for help): 7 7: unknown command [22:00] on help it doesn't show 'a' command [22:00] ok where did you get the first unknown command? [22:00] on a [22:00] m and p went like a charm [22:00] but a is unknown [22:02] can this be because im running on live usb? [22:02] that's wierd [22:02] not sure. I wouldn't think so [22:03] so if you hit m that list of options doesn't have a listed [22:03] yeah, theres no command a [22:03] only dFlnptvi mx IO wq gGos [22:04] and there's nothing called toggle boot [22:07] I'm not sure now. I'm pretty much out of ideas [22:08] :/ [22:09] tried some googleing and found about some boot-repair, maybe i should try that, idk [22:10] possibly === pavlushka- is now known as pavlushka [22:10] I could be wrong, but maybe if windows was installed first, that could be the default loader [22:10] i'm already in trouble with linux although i haven't even got into it yet [22:11] maybe its a windows issue, in that you'd have to alter that boot loader to give a linux option [22:12] i'll log out of the other account so i can try to check if there's something wrong in bios, but stay here with this nick [22:12] either that, or you could try to install grub, but that would stop you from being able to boot into linux, if its not done right [22:13] damn.. [22:13] although i just reinstalled windows and linux so i got nothing to lose to be honest [22:14] I'd just stick with linux. and use a vm or wine for any windows applications [22:15] the problem here is that i use photoshop almost everyday [22:15] of course i have a desktop which has windows but i carry my laptop in uni everyday [22:15] personal use or business? [22:15] just personal [22:15] Are you planning to use EFI? [22:15] they have comparable software for linux if you're up for learning it [22:15] efi? [22:15] okayy... what's is called? [22:15] it* [22:15] Is your system EFI? call efibootmgr in the terminal and see if it gives boot options. [22:16] sorry for spam in ahead of time: [22:16] ubuntu-mate@ubuntu-mate:~$ efibootmgr [22:16] BootCurrent: 000C [22:16] Timeout: 0 seconds [22:16] BootOrder: 000C,0005,0009,0000,000B [22:16] Boot0000* Windows Boot Manager [22:16] Boot0005* Sony Original [22:16] Boot0009* Windows Boot Manager [22:16] Boot000B* Windows Boot Manager [22:16] Boot000C* UEFI: VerbatimSTORE N GO 5.00 [22:19] Yep. Your bios is EFI. [22:20] Is the legacy option enabled in your bios? [22:20] just a second [22:22] no [22:22] boot mode is on uefi [22:22] Do you have an ESP, efi system partition? [22:23] umm, sorry but i have no idea [22:23] what do you mean by that? [22:23] Do you have a partition listed as ef00 in fdisk when you enter p [22:24] i think there was not [22:24] Hmm. Does windows boot fine? [22:24] yes, like a charm [22:24] i have a really bad feeling, i deleted some partitions before reinstalling windows [22:25] not sure if i did fuck up, even that i didnt delete that sonysys [22:26] there's no ef00 but there is efi system in fdisk [22:26] What output do you get on p when you fdisk? [22:26] sorry, i did remember wrong [22:26] Yep. So you do have a boot partition. [22:27] pall512: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Converting_Ubuntu_into_UEFI_mode [22:27] Just remember to turn off fast startup in later versions of windows or it'll fuck windows up === ubuntu-mate is now known as pall51 [22:28] sorry! Device Start End Sectors Size Type [22:28] according to Ubuntu's site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot all you have to do is change the grub to point to the windows partition. [22:28] And use 64 bit ubuntu as well. [22:28] well, that was embarrassing spam [22:28] no instructions on how to do that though [22:29] install boot-repair and os-prober and then run boot-repair in the live environment. [22:29] ummh.. okay, let's see if i can do this [22:30] no instructions might be little problem :D [22:31] boot from the usb or cd and go to terminal and sudo apt-get install boot-repair os-prober [22:31] is it just that [22:32] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair or these [22:32] Yes, but after install also add os-prober [22:32] umm.. so, which commands? [22:33] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair os-prober && boot-repair [22:33] reading comprehension 10 out of 10 points for me [22:34] since he's on a live usb I don't think adding the ppa is really benefiting anything [22:34] It might if it's not there by default and boot-repair isn't in the ubunto repos. [22:35] boot repair opened [22:35] but how about that os-prober? [22:35] That runs with grub, so you don't have to worry about it. [22:35] but i didnt install it yet [22:35] As long as it's installed it'll check to see if windows is installed. [22:38] umm [22:38] separate /boot/efi partition is already checked, and it's on sda5 [22:38] you can go ahead and boot repair. [22:38] on drop menu the other choice is to choose sda1 [22:39] Leave the efi partition checked as is. [22:40] and after it install os-probe? [22:40] prober* [22:41] Install os-prober before running boot-repair. Come to think of it, it should be there by default. [22:41] before..? [22:41] well, i did run boot-repair already :| [22:43] do i have to install it now and do the boot-repair again? [22:48] did it but still no success, still booted straight to windows. secure boot is disabled, boot mode uefi [22:56] @Mayday010 [22:56] I'm out see ya guys later [22:57] Look at your bios boot options and see if you have linux boot manager [22:57] maybe f12 or whatever your boot menu key is pall512 [22:57] i dont have any options on that in my bios :/ [22:58] It's not in the boot menu/boot sequence? [22:59] You'll have to see if your bios supports adding a boot entry manually then. [22:59] It looks fine, your bios is probably hard coded. [23:00] [23:01] \w [23:02] pall512 Is your laptop an hp? [23:03] no, sony vaio [23:03] and no, there's actually not much of boot options. only external/internal choice [23:04] Look in your bios then and see if you can manually add a boot entry. [23:05] i cant add :/ [23:05] Then it's probably hard coded to EFI/Microsoft/bootx74.efi or something like that. [23:05] bootx64.efi [23:07] http://paste2.org/BYNzGUep [23:09] in windows system configuration boot menu it only shows windows 10.. [23:11] Looks like 2 EFI partitions. Strange. [23:12] oh god [23:12] sta1 and sta5 [23:13] it's 2 in the night and i've to wake up in 4 hours :D if i cant make this work i'm just going to give up and just delete windows totally [23:14] what's the problem? [23:14] should i still try to separate boot efi to sda1 [23:14] well, i just reinstalled windows and tried to make linux to dual boot, but after the installation of linux it just boots straight to windows without opening grub [23:21] try installing linux again [23:24] well, i gotta go to sleep now, way too tired to even try anything anymore. i'll join back tomorrow to cry out for more help. thank you for helping, it means a lot! [23:24] anytime, sleep well :)