[01:01] <Guest34520> sorry
[01:02] <Guest34520> just new here
[02:46] <alexrb1000> how do i uninstall ubuntu
[10:23] <kevpi> can some one help me get me hdmi sound to work on my raspberry pi 3?
[13:02] <ubuntu-mate> Wow, Ubuntu mate 16.10 is a huge improvement
[13:44] <mate|59723> hi everyone , someone can help please ...!
[13:46] <mate|59723> the bar at the top of my ubuntu mate have gone , how can i get it back ... ?
[13:46] <mate|59723> anyone know how please ...
[13:48] <mate|59723> on the top write corner normally it was 3 littles signe one with a cross to close any windows
[13:49] <mate|59723> this is gone and i can not close any application i open... !
[13:49] <mate|59723> any help please ???
[13:51] <mate|59723> ?
[13:52] <mate|59723> anyone there .......?
[15:27] <mate|25883> What's going on. I just upgraded my main machine to 16.10 and my dvd drives are useless!
[15:32] <ouroumov> flexiondotorg, hello
[15:35] <korpa> I can not install java in ubuntu mate
[15:39] <flexiondotorg> ouroumov, Yo
[15:41] <ouroumov> flexiondotorg, that bounty thing seems to work
[15:41] <flexiondotorg> Really?
[15:42] <flexiondotorg> I've not heard back from Bounty Source that they've set up what we need?
[15:42] <ouroumov> And well it appears I was wrong. Turns out bug was not in mate-panel
[15:43] <ouroumov> flexiondotorg, what did you ask from them? :o
[15:46] <G__81> Hi i am using Ubuntu mate 16.04 and i am using the Marco Compton GPU compositor. I would like to know if i can change the alt+tab settings to something similar to what i see in the software compositor
[15:48] <ouroumov> G__81, not that I know of
[15:49] <ouroumov> G__81, compton is very limited by design
[15:50] <G__81> ouroumov, oh the default option is better then ?
[15:51] <G__81> ouroumov, is there a way to at least increase the icon size when i do alt + tab ?
[15:53] <ouroumov> G__81, again, not that I know of
[15:53] <ouroumov> G__81, the default option is not always better, it depends what you do with the machine
[15:53] <ouroumov> G__81, for instance, compton is the way to go if you want tear-free video playback
[15:54] <G__81> compiz is too complicated for me. I use my machine for development purposes and yes listening to music and watching movies as well
[15:55] <Akuli> what exactly do you want alt+tab to do?
[15:55] <Akuli> to me it switches windows in marco  just fine
[15:56] <G__81> Akuli, i just want to increase the size of the icons which gets displayed when i do alt+tab or if possible i want the windows preview like what i get in marco
[15:56] <G__81> i am currently using Compton Compositor. Want to know if i can get the same view in compton as how i get when i use Marco Alt + tab
[15:57] <Akuli> as a developer you'll probably find yourself spending most of the time on the same terminal anyway
[15:57] <Akuli> which is the terminal that your editor runs on
[15:59] <ouroumov> Maybe he's using a graphical editor :x
[15:59] <ouroumov> Or and IDE :x
[15:59] <ouroumov> -d
[15:59] <Akuli> about the same thing, still staying in the same window most of the time
[16:00] <G__81> Akuli, no the icons in alt+tab is quite small just want to know if i can increase the size, something like what we get in xfce
[16:00] <Akuli> maybe you could run xfce's window manager with mate?
[16:01] <G__81> Akuli, i have not tried. If mate does not have a default option, its fine i can just revert back to default Marco Software compositor and its just fine
[16:01] <Akuli> i don't think it has
[16:01] <guest-2eqmae>   helplp
[16:01] <guest-2eqmae> hfgcgg
[16:01] <Akuli> whats the problem?
[16:01] <G__81> just wanted to know if i am missing something or some hidden option in dconf
[16:01] <G__81> Thanks Akuli
[16:01] <guest-2eqmae> jhggg
[16:02] <Akuli> dconf dump /org/mate/marco/ doesn't show anything interesting
[16:02] <G__81> oh ok thanks
[16:02] <Akuli> so i guess you'd need to edit the source and compile marco
[16:03] <G__81> oh ok No problem. I will stay with Marco Software compositor. It works fine
[16:10] <shifty> ...
[17:20] <alfikri> bonjour tt le monde
[18:55] <chelios> hi there, I am running MATE desktop on 16.04 I previously enabled focus follows mouse but now I would like to turn it off. I set focus-mode to click and unchecked auto-raise but it still does focus follows mouse. Any ideas?
[19:19] <ouroumov_> hi chelios
[19:20] <chelios> hi ouroumov_
[19:48] <ig> hey
[20:13] <Mayday010> anyone here?
[20:16] <Mayday010> has anyone been having display issues with 16.10?
[20:20] <ouroumov_> hi Mayday010
[20:20] <ouroumov_> Mayday010, what kind of issue?
[20:22] <Mayday010> I have a 2 monitor set up, and when I mouse across video will freeze for a split second
[20:22] <Mayday010> sometimes things will flash as well
[20:58] <pall51> guys, i'm having a little problem. i installed ubuntu mate but didn't get any kind of bootloader after a boot and it booted straight to windows, any hints what should i do?
[21:01] <Mayday010> do you have to install grub on the boot partition?
[21:03] <pall51> well yea, i have grub inside boot folder
[21:03] <pall51> but boot partition?
[21:04] <Mayday010> I'm not an expert at this, but from the little experience I got making a live usb, you need to install grub on the boot partition.  Which ever partition your pc is reading to boot
[21:05] <simon_> Hi there, yes GRUB needs to be installed to whichever disk (not partition) your PC is booting from
[21:05] <Mayday010> If its booting into windows I would think you might have to install it to the windows partition, unless you have a partition specifically labeled as boot
[21:05] <simon_> So if your root is installed on sdb and your boot device is sda. GRUB needs to be installed to sda.
[21:05] <pall51> i just checked my bios and it only shows that it's either primarily booting from internal or external drive, not asking about any partition
[21:06] <Mayday010> you'd have to check the disk its self
[21:07] <simon_> Have a look here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB
[21:07] <simon_> When installing GRUB it is installed to sda not to sda1 etc
[21:08] <Mayday010> I'm not sure how windows partitions their install, but if you have a partition that is labeled / marked as boot you would install it there, then make grub link back to your linux install
[21:10] <simon_> Pass on the windows. Not installed a Microsoft system for a decade! From memory however there is a package called os-probe (or someting like that) that will find the Windows install if is already in place. Think the windows "boot disk" is untouch and GRUB chain loads into it.
[21:11] <Mayday010> if its easier you could use a live usb to look at your partitions too, instead of getting special software for that.
[21:12] <pall512> yeah, i'm actually using a live usb right now and trying to find out what to do
[21:13] <simon_> True. A live usb will let you look.
[21:13] <Mayday010> go to your terminal
[21:13] <Mayday010> type in sudo fdisk -l
[21:13] <pall512> i have windows' 200gb volume partition and linux's 50gb one, both on same ssd and i don't have any other hard drives. can't look at windows' partition tho, calling that it's unable to mount 200gb volume
[21:14] <Mayday010> one of the partitions on the windows disk will have an asterisk on that line marking boot partition
[21:15] <pall512> one kind of pain in the ass because i have finnish keyboard and live usb only has us keyboard layout
[21:16] <pall512> fdisk -l says "permission denied" to all
[21:16] <pall512> oh, sudo.. of course
[21:17] <Mayday010> Its been a while since I've mounted a windows partition.  You may need to experiment with some options, but your general command shoudl be "mount -t ntfs  /windows/disk  /mount/partition"
[21:17] <Mayday010> oh, with sudo also
[21:19] <pall51> ummh..
[21:21] <pall51> can't see no asterisk anywhere
[21:22] <Mayday010> did it show all the partitions for all your disks?
[21:22] <pall51> or i do have my known partitions listed from sda1 to sda8 but then there's some isolated rams, loops etc
[21:23] <pall51> there's also one isolated boot device but it's my usb stick
[21:23] <Mayday010> wouldn't be in ram.  It should be one of your sd devices, most likely sda
[21:24] <pall51> it can affect that i do have external drive as primary boot option because otherwise my laptop wont boot from usb..
[21:25] <Mayday010> I don't think so.  it should show all connected devices regardless of where it actually booted from
[21:26] <pall51> is there any way i can screenshot this and send it? it'd be way too much spam to just copy and paste
[21:27] <Mayday010> try this.  sudo fdisk -l | grep '\*' | grep /dev
[21:27] <Mayday010> that should pull up just a list of boot partitions
[21:27] <jticket> Is ntfs-3g installed by default?
[21:29] <pall51> ./dev/sdb1  *     2048 7823359 7821312  3.7G  c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[21:30] <pall51> but that's my usb :/
[21:31] <Mayday010> check what jticket said.  is ntfs-3g installed.    sudo dpkg -l | grep ntfs
[21:32] <pall51> ii  ntfs-3g                               1:2015.3.14AR.1-1build1                    amd64        read/write NTFS driver for FUSE
[21:33] <pall51> thanks guys for your help, i appreciate it very much since i don't have much experience on linux
[21:34] <Mayday010> np, I finally get to test out what I've been learning.  since I'm relatively new too
[21:34] <Mayday010> is that the only line?  on my system I also have a ii  libntfs-3g871                               1:2016.2.22AR.1-3                           amd64        read/write NTFS driver for FUSE (runtime library)
[21:34] <pall51> hah
[21:35] <pall51> yeah, those are the only lanes
[21:35] <Mayday010> how big is the windows drive?
[21:36] <pall51> it's approx. 200gbs, the linux is 50
[21:37] <pall51> and i cant access it from linux
[21:38] <Mayday010> I'm not sure why your other disks aren't showing up
[21:39] <pall51> on ubuntus file explorer it's showing also sonysys, inside it is a folder named efi and inside it is folder named boot..
[21:39] <Mayday010> what if you do   ls /dev | grep sd
[21:40] <pall51> sda
[21:40] <pall51> sda1
[21:40] <pall51> sda2
[21:40] <pall51> sda3
[21:40] <pall51> sda4
[21:40] <pall51> sda5
[21:40] <pall51> sda6
[21:40] <chelios> is anyone able to tell me how I can disable focus follows mouse?
[21:40] <pall51> sda7
[21:40] <pall51> sda8
[21:40] <pall51> sdb
[21:40] <pall51> sdb1
[21:40] <pall51> ohgod sorry
[21:42] <Mayday010> I'm assuming sda is the disk you installed linux on?
[21:42] <pall51> that's the only disk i got
[21:43] <Mayday010> I'm sorry chelios I don't know
[21:43] <chelios> Mayday010: no problem
[21:43] <chelios> I'll keep asking and eventually I'll find the right person :-)
[21:45] <Mayday010> pall51: did you install linux on the same disk and windows, just different partition?
[21:46] <pall51> yeah
[21:46] <pall51> that sda is my only disk and i made 50gb partition out of it for linux, and installed it on it
[21:47] <Mayday010> ok , I think that makes more sense now
[21:47] <Mayday010> I'm still not sure why there is not listing for a boot partition though
[21:47] <Mayday010> so I have 2 thoughts
[21:48] <Mayday010> 1.  check your  bios and make sure secure boot is turned off.  I hear that will prevent you from booting into linux
[21:48] <pall51> secure boot is turned off since it didnt let me boot of usb stick without it being off
[21:48] <Mayday010> and 2.  if that looks good you'd have to install grub to /sda
[21:50] <pall51> okaayyy...
[21:50] <Mayday010> which partition is your ok installed on?
[21:50] <pall51> ok?
[21:51] <Mayday010> oh, I guess you could try one other thing
[21:51] <Mayday010> flag that linux partition as boot
[21:52] <Mayday010> sudo fdisk -l | grep -i linux
[21:52] <pall51> and to make sure i dont know did i already say this but there's also that sonysys sony boot partition, i couldnt delete it because its my only way to get into bios
[21:53] <pall51> it gave me this :/dev/sda7  395259904 483530751  88270848  42.1G Linux filesystem
[21:53] <Mayday010> I'm thinking of just flagging the linux partition, not doing anything with the others
[21:54] <pall51> and this: /dev/sda8  483530752 500117503  16586752   7.9G Linux swap
[21:54] <Mayday010> ok I'm gussing that's where linux is installed /dev/sda7
[21:54] <Mayday010> so you can do sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[21:55] <Mayday010> you can hit 'm' anytime you need instructions
[21:55] <Mayday010> but hit p to list your partitions
[21:55] <pall51> aaightt
[21:56] <Mayday010> hit 'a' to toggle boot
[21:56] <pall51> a: unknown command
[21:56] <pall51> umm
[21:56] <Mayday010> are you still in the fdisk program,  or back at the command line
[21:57] <pall51> still in the fdisk
[21:57] <Mayday010> a
[21:57] <Mayday010> without quotes, or colon
[21:57] <pall51> well, thats exactly what i did
[21:58] <pall51> Command (m for help): a a: unknown command
[21:58] <pall51> weird
[21:58] <Mayday010> ok, shoudl show a list of elligable boot partitions.  hopefully 7 is there
[21:58] <Mayday010> enter 7
[21:58] <pall51> unknown command
[21:59] <Mayday010> 7
[21:59] <pall51> Command (m for help): 7 7: unknown command
[22:00] <pall51> on help it doesn't show 'a' command
[22:00] <Mayday010> ok where did you get the first unknown command?
[22:00] <pall51> on a
[22:00] <pall51> m and p went like a charm
[22:00] <pall51> but a is unknown
[22:02] <pall51> can this be because im running on live usb?
[22:02] <Mayday010> that's wierd
[22:02] <Mayday010> not sure.  I wouldn't think so
[22:03] <Mayday010> so if you hit m  that  list of options doesn't have a listed
[22:03] <pall51> yeah, theres no command a
[22:03] <pall51> only dFlnptvi mx IO wq gGos
[22:04] <pall51> and there's nothing called toggle boot
[22:07] <Mayday010> I'm not sure now.  I'm pretty much out of ideas
[22:08] <pall51> :/
[22:09] <pall51> tried some googleing and found about some boot-repair, maybe i should try that, idk
[22:10] <Mayday010> possibly
[22:10] <Mayday010> I could be wrong, but maybe if windows was installed first, that could be the default loader
[22:10] <pall512> i'm already in trouble with linux although i haven't even got into it yet
[22:11] <Mayday010> maybe its a windows issue, in that you'd have to alter that boot loader to give a linux option
[22:12] <pall512> i'll log out of the other account so i can try to check if there's something wrong in bios, but stay here with this nick
[22:12] <Mayday010> either that, or you could try to install grub, but that would stop you from being able to boot into linux,  if its not done right
[22:13] <pall512> damn..
[22:13] <pall512> although i just reinstalled windows and linux so i got nothing to lose to be honest
[22:14] <Mayday010> I'd just stick with linux.  and use a vm or wine for any windows applications
[22:15] <pall512> the problem here is that i use photoshop almost everyday
[22:15] <pall512> of course i have a desktop which has windows but i carry my laptop in uni everyday
[22:15] <Mayday010> personal use or business?
[22:15] <pall512> just personal
[22:15] <jticket> Are you planning to use EFI?
[22:15] <Mayday010> they have comparable software for linux if you're up for learning it
[22:15] <pall512> efi?
[22:15] <pall512> okayy... what's is called?
[22:15] <pall512> it*
[22:15] <jticket> Is your system EFI? call efibootmgr in the terminal and see if it gives boot options.
[22:16] <pall51> sorry for spam in ahead of time:
[22:16] <pall51> ubuntu-mate@ubuntu-mate:~$ efibootmgr
[22:16] <pall51> BootCurrent: 000C
[22:16] <pall51> Timeout: 0 seconds
[22:16] <pall51> BootOrder: 000C,0005,0009,0000,000B
[22:16] <pall51> Boot0000* Windows Boot Manager
[22:16] <pall51> Boot0005* Sony Original
[22:16] <pall51> Boot0009* Windows Boot Manager
[22:16] <pall51> Boot000B* Windows Boot Manager
[22:16] <pall51> Boot000C* UEFI: VerbatimSTORE N GO 5.00
[22:19] <jticket> Yep. Your bios is EFI.
[22:20] <jticket> Is the legacy option enabled in your bios?
[22:20] <pall512> just a second
[22:22] <pall512> no
[22:22] <pall512> boot mode is on uefi
[22:22] <jticket> Do you have an ESP, efi system partition?
[22:23] <pall512> umm, sorry but i have no idea
[22:23] <pall512> what do you mean by that?
[22:23] <jticket> Do you have a partition listed as ef00 in fdisk when you enter p
[22:24] <pall512> i think there was not
[22:24] <jticket> Hmm. Does windows boot fine?
[22:24] <pall512> yes, like a charm
[22:24] <pall512> i have a really bad feeling, i deleted some partitions before reinstalling windows
[22:25] <pall512> not sure if i did fuck up, even that i didnt delete that sonysys
[22:26] <pall512> there's no ef00 but there is efi system in fdisk
[22:26] <jticket> What output do you get on p when you fdisk?
[22:26] <pall512> sorry, i did remember wrong
[22:26] <jticket> Yep. So you do have a boot partition.
[22:27] <jticket> pall512: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Converting_Ubuntu_into_UEFI_mode
[22:27] <jticket> Just remember to turn off fast startup in later versions of windows or it'll fuck windows up
[22:28] <pall51> sorry! Device         Start       End   Sectors   Size Type
[22:28] <Mayday010> according to Ubuntu's site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot  all you have to do is change the grub to point to the windows partition.
[22:28] <jticket> And use 64 bit ubuntu as well.
[22:28] <pall51> well, that was embarrassing spam
[22:28] <Mayday010> no instructions on how to do that though
[22:29] <jticket> install boot-repair and os-prober and then run boot-repair in the live environment.
[22:29] <pall512> ummh.. okay, let's see if i can do this
[22:30] <pall512> no instructions might be little problem :D
[22:31] <jticket> boot from the usb or cd and go to terminal and sudo apt-get install boot-repair os-prober
[22:31] <pall512> is it just that
[22:32] <pall512> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair or these
[22:32] <jticket> Yes, but after install also add os-prober
[22:32] <pall512> umm.. so, which commands?
[22:33] <jticket> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair os-prober && boot-repair
[22:33] <pall512> reading comprehension 10 out of 10 points for me
[22:34] <Mayday010> since he's on a live usb I don't think adding the ppa is really benefiting anything
[22:34] <jticket> It might if it's not there by default and boot-repair isn't in the ubunto repos.
[22:35] <pall512> boot repair opened
[22:35] <pall512> but how about that os-prober?
[22:35] <jticket> That runs with grub, so you don't have to worry about it.
[22:35] <pall512> but i didnt install it yet
[22:35] <jticket> As long as it's installed it'll check to see if windows is installed.
[22:38] <pall512> umm
[22:38] <pall512> separate /boot/efi partition is already checked, and it's on sda5
[22:38] <jticket> you can go ahead and boot repair.
[22:38] <pall512> on drop menu the other choice is to choose sda1
[22:39] <jticket> Leave the efi partition checked as is.
[22:40] <pall512> and after it install os-probe?
[22:40] <pall512> prober*
[22:41] <jticket> Install os-prober before running boot-repair. Come to think of it, it should be there by default.
[22:41] <pall512> before..?
[22:41] <pall512> well, i did run boot-repair already :|
[22:43] <pall512> do i have to install it now and do the boot-repair again?
[22:48] <pall512> did it but still no success, still booted straight to windows. secure boot is disabled, boot mode uefi
[22:56] <Mayday010> @Mayday010
[22:56] <Mayday010> I'm out see ya guys later
[22:57] <jticket> Look at your bios boot options and see if you have linux boot manager
[22:57] <jticket> maybe f12 or whatever your boot menu key is pall512
[22:57] <pall512> i dont have any options on that in my bios :/
[22:58] <jticket> It's not in the boot menu/boot sequence?
[22:59] <jticket> You'll have to see if your bios supports adding a boot entry manually then.
[22:59] <jticket> It looks fine, your bios is probably hard coded.
[23:00] <tester1>  
[23:01] <tester1> \w
[23:02] <jticket> pall512 Is your laptop an hp?
[23:03] <pall512> no, sony vaio
[23:03] <pall512> and no, there's actually not much of boot options. only external/internal choice
[23:04] <jticket> Look in your bios then and see if you can manually add a boot entry.
[23:05] <pall512> i cant add :/
[23:05] <jticket> Then it's probably hard coded to EFI/Microsoft/bootx74.efi or something like that.
[23:05] <jticket> bootx64.efi
[23:07] <pall512> http://paste2.org/BYNzGUep
[23:09] <pall512> in windows system configuration boot menu it only shows windows 10..
[23:11] <jticket> Looks like 2 EFI partitions. Strange.
[23:12] <pall512> oh god
[23:12] <jticket> sta1 and sta5
[23:13] <pall512> it's 2 in the night and i've to wake up in 4 hours :D if i cant make this work i'm just going to give up and just delete windows totally
[23:14] <green_> what's the problem?
[23:14] <pall512> should i still try to separate boot efi to sda1
[23:14] <pall512> well, i just reinstalled windows and tried to make linux to dual boot, but after the installation of linux it just boots straight to windows without opening grub
[23:21] <green_> try installing linux again
[23:24] <pall512> well, i gotta go to sleep now, way too tired to even try anything anymore. i'll join back tomorrow to cry out for more help. thank you for helping, it means a lot!
[23:24] <green_> anytime, sleep well :)