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usr13AndChat728121: You could even go 80G or 60G for /00:00
AndChat728121Is it a problem that my partitions are called sda1, 2, 3, 5, 6? I assume not but it'll drive me insane knowing there's a gap. Fixable later?00:01
usr13AndChat728121: But not much lower...00:01
usr13sda1, sda2 and sda3 are primary partitions 5 and up are logical00:01
usr13AndChat728121: That is the way it should be00:01
Bashing-om!info amdgpu00:02
ubottuPackage amdgpu does not exist in yakkety00:02
AndChat728121I went with 150 to play it ultra safe. 327 for my /home/ is 3x bigger than I'm used to.00:02
AndChat728121Okay, I thought I broke it.00:02
usr13AndChat728121: The limit is 4 for primary partitions, so sda5 will always be the first logical partition, sda6 will be the second, etc. etc. etc.00:03
AndChat728121I guess I should tell it to put the bootloader on the same as root?00:03
tgm4883Bashing-om: it's xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu and libdrm-amdgpu100:03
Ben64AndChat728121: you'll want the drive, sda00:03
naccFree99_: would have to spend some time looking into it, but it's eod for me. I'm guessing there was probably some more stuff before you manually invoked the oom killer, though00:03
usr13AndChat728121: WHen the time comes, put the boot loader on sda00:03
AndChat728121Thanks so much. I could have figured it out on my own, eventually but I'm ill, tired and very stressed. Thanks so much.00:04
Ben64you could have just deleted sda4 and let the installer do it all00:04
AndChat728121It complained about that, actually.00:05
usr13AndChat728121: Boot loader goes in the first sector of the primary hard drive.  (In this case, you only have one Hard Drive.) (Right?)00:06
AndChat728121Yeah, I do.00:07
usr13AndChat728121: Tell the installer to write grub to the MBR, (not a partition).00:07
usr13AndChat728121: (grub is the linux boot loader that you will be using from now on.)00:08
AndChat728121I err. Don't think I had the option. It just said select one of sda, sda1 etc.00:08
usr13AndChat728121: grub goes in sda00:08
AndChat728121I selected sda like Ninbendo64 said. :300:09
usr13AndChat728121: Yes that's right.00:09
AndChat728121I hope you appreciate my petname.00:10
Bashing-om!info libdrm-amdgpu1 xenial00:11
ubottulibdrm-amdgpu1 (source: libdrm): Userspace interface to amdgpu-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.67-1ubuntu0.16.04.2 (xenial), package size 19 kB, installed size 76 kB00:11
tgm4883Bashing-om: yep, i've got that installed. I even tried a reinstall of both those packages00:12
Bashing-omtgm4883: Looking at : https://linuxconfig.org/getting-the-rx-480-running-with-amdgpu-on-linux ; 4. Installing Libdrm/AMDGPU . Any help there ?00:13
tgm4883Bashing-om: everything in step 4 was already done00:16
romboclatgood night dear community.. i spend some time tonight browsing irc ad discovered very good music by that ^^ by the way... i know that i newer have done some serius approce to thas wat is my internet security. so i will ask here what is good to do at a firs install on ubuntu.. so like firewall.. have i to create a proxi? should i buy a vpn? kann someone give me a security advise on how to advoid stupid happenings?00:22
hippybearheh that is pretty wide open00:22
hippybearencrypt, set up firewalls, set up VPNs, set up configuration files appropriately00:23
AndChat728121Be careful when browsing and use extensions to block ads is pretty much the best tip.00:23
hippybeardisable js00:24
Bashing-omtgm4883: Sorry, all I know to do .. out of my depth now .00:24
romboclati belive XD for exampe i notices that on irc i kann se information about utents.. but i don't know what is public of mine00:24
hippybeardisconnect your internet00:24
AndChat728121Other than be careful executing arbitrary code in the shell. :300:24
romboclatso i know hippybeat could kome from london.. but have secure connection.. in my kase i don't know00:25
tgm4883Bashing-om: thanks for looking. The closest I've gotten is installing linux-generic-lts-yakkety (rebooting, but not booting into that kernel). I then at least get 1920x1080, but it still only mirrors my monitors00:25
romboclatwhat would be a priority by a first install?00:27
AndChat728121Time to boot into Ubuntu for the first time in almost a decade00:27
romboclathaha.. ubuntu is very nice ^^00:28
loganleehello00:28
usr13 AndChat728121 Good luck...00:29
usr13AndChat728121: Happy ubuntuing00:29
AndChat728121Ibuntu, ubuntu, everybodybuntu.00:30
TheNH813How to create a custom keymap on ubuntu? I made my own layout and rearranged keys on a spare keyboard as an experiment.00:30
TheNH813Where are the mappings stores?00:30
TheNH813*stored00:30
TheNH813Basically, there are keys I wanted closer together for playing games, without changing the default settings. So I made an odd key layout.00:32
TheNH813How do I register a custom layout so it shows up in the input methods of Ubuntu?00:32
Ben64TheNH813: should be in /usr/share/X11/xkb00:32
TheNH813Ah, thanks. I'l check there.00:32
Ben64probably will be weird00:33
loganleehmmmm00:33
loganlee i installed ubuntu on top of win 10 on my $300 laptop00:34
loganleei dont regret it00:34
TheNH813loganlee: Ubuntu is awesome. Glad to hear you like it as a replacement for Win10. :D00:35
romboclati talk to you another day ^^ good night00:35
loganleeTheNH813, ty yes it is good00:35
loganleeim wondering why we have to pay for win 10 without a choice?00:38
kenrinThe price difference is negligible for a laptop without windows than with for big companies that sell tons of computers loganlee00:40
TheNH813loganlee: Well, it actually costs manufacturers practically nothing due to volume licensing. It's likely $10 per machine or less.00:41
kk4ewtwell no matter how many they sell they have to include the M$ tax00:41
TheNH813If you buy hundreds of thousands of licenses, likem let's say HP or Dell, you get rediculous discounts.00:41
kk4ewtTheNH813, you will be surprised the discounts you can get for 100 from dell00:42
tgm4883This all seems very off topic00:42
kk4ewttrue sorry00:42
TheNH813Well, it is, guess it belongs more on Offtopic.00:43
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nabblethi, does the ubuntu liveusb stick provides tools for burning iso images on CDs?00:57
Ben64nabblet: i don't think so, but you could install one00:57
Fensterhey guys, is the live drive limited on the drivers it loads vs a full install?00:58
Ben64it loads a special live system00:58
TortillionSorry for bothering you again, but I found out that you can add themes and icon packs to Lubuntu. Does this make Lubuntu slower?00:58
Ben64Tortillion: no00:59
TortillionThank you.00:59
Fenstertrying to recover this vista laptop for my father in law.... convincing him to run ubuntu instead00:59
Fensterit doesnt look like it found any wireless drivers, and for some reason this USB HDD dock isnt showing up for me to make a backup of his files first00:59
FensterIs this a sign of "things to come" if I do a full install? ie. if the live drive doesnt find these items, will the full install find them?01:00
Ben64wireless is a problem with certain chips, usb hard drive stuff should work01:00
Fensterhmmm, dmesg shows spinning up disk01:03
Fenster500 gb... wire protect is off01:03
Fensterperhaps it is recognizing it,..... just not mounting it.01:04
nabbletBen64: ok, thx01:07
debkadFenster: fdisk -l must show it01:07
Fensterwell it does... Disk /dev/sda01:09
debkadwhat filesystem it have01:09
Fensterbut trying to mount it says mount: /dev/sda is write-protected mounting read only01:09
debkadah01:09
Fensterwrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda01:09
debkadntfs?01:09
Fensterprobably...... just trying to get it mounted so I can dump this windows filestructure over before I do a fresh install01:10
Guy1524Hey guys, need help, I don't have a swap, and linux is allocating large portions of my memory to disk caching, and isn't releasing memory when I run out.  I have many applications that require a lot of ram, so I am constantly at the edge of my limit and whenever I run a game that requires say 4GB of ram, my computer just crashes01:10
Fensterdo I need to reformat it before mounting/01:10
Guy1524thanks01:10
Fensterlet me hook it to my windows machine really fast, confirm there is nothing on it... format as fat... then try to remount01:11
debkadFenster: if it is ntfs, you need to go back to windows and check the data twice ( check → reboot → check again → reboot )01:11
Fensterhell it doesnt even show up on windows right now... maybe its a bad drive01:11
Ben64Guy1524: pastebin the output of free -h01:11
Fensterlet me try another one01:11
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Fensterwell, let me go to drive manager01:12
Fensterya it is unformated01:12
Fensterunallocated01:12
debkadoh01:12
debkadFenster: you have some necessary data inside it?01:12
Fensterstinkin winodws forces me to do ntfs01:13
Ben64Fenster: you can format in linux01:13
Fensterdebkad, shouldnt be... it looks like it doesnt even have a partition01:13
Fenstermight be best to format fat in linux01:13
Fenstercan ya'll help me with that?01:13
rocket__libre office is crashing all the time01:13
debkadFenster: ok if you have no data, it is fine to foramt it inside linux01:13
debkadFenster: why you want it to be fat?01:14
Fensterya... ok /dev/sda shows up as 500gb01:14
Fensterdebkad, I dont absoluately have to... but I just need it up so I can transfer the windows file structure to it via this live disk01:14
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debkadFenster: ah you want the data be cross between linux and windows?01:15
Fensterno.... have a windows laptop that will no longer boot to vista..... I dont have vista disks anymore... so I am going to load ubuntu on it... before I do that, I want to drag and drop those files over to this external drive in case I screw it up ;-)01:16
Guest84546guys, could you tell me how to remove or deactivate network manager?01:16
debkadFenster: ok, best to use ntfs or ext4 ... not fat32 if you have big files ( videos and stuff )01:16
debkadFenster: ntfs can be read by both linux and windows01:17
Fensterwell if I dont have to jump through hoops in linux to do ntfs I will just do it on my windows box01:17
Fensterbut I do have it plugged into linux box now01:17
debkadFenster: you can format in ntfs inside linux01:17
Fensterok.... im there now..... it is /dev/sda01:17
Fensterit has no partitions01:18
Ben64open gparted and create it however you like01:18
debkadFenster: you can just right click on the unallocated area and format then choose ntfs01:18
debkad^ or that01:18
Fensterah nice.. .forgot live disk had gparted01:19
debkadmost live system come with it01:19
Fensternice... ok, here we go01:20
Fensterand its done01:20
BackUPhi my ubuntu 16.04 upon opening displays a dialog box with there's a system error, options are to don't send and send reports, my question is how can i see the details of the error, there's a option detail but it's not displaying what went wrong...thanks in advance01:20
Fensteryou guys are good.. thanks for your help01:21
debkadNo problem01:21
Guest84546BackUP, generally it takes a few seconds for it to display the actual error, but it'd depend on your machine01:21
elisa87please have a look http://askubuntu.com/questions/842215/running-script-was-killed01:21
* debkad had that report window, never worked for me01:21
Fensterlast question(s)...... I am going to load ubuntu, and he will need access to the files.. it prob males sense to just install ubutnu along side and keep that windows partition?01:21
BackUPok Guest84546 thanks01:22
BackUPerr elisa87 if that's for me thanks! try to look at it thanks guys01:22
Guest84546if it happens again you can try waiting a few seconds01:22
BackUPok01:22
debkadFenster: i use my self the last option, but you need have a space for ubuntu01:23
BackUPit happens everytime i open my ubuntu01:23
BackUPgot no idea about what's causing it01:23
Fensterthe other option is do a fresh format and install, and just add a folder within the ubntu installation that has all his windows files01:23
BackUPi will try to wait till it displays the problem thanks again01:23
SynfulAckwhich command line is the one that automatically adds a user and other things?01:23
Ben64SynfulAck: adduser01:24
Guest84546BackUP, , no problem, it isn't exactly obvious that it is loading the info so it might appear as though it is displaying nothing01:25
tgm4883Bashing-om: never figured it out. Ended up upgrading to 16.10 and it worked fine01:25
SynfulAckBen64, alright thx, had to question that one cause useradd and adduser were giving the exact same options making it look like a alias, and i remember in previous ubuntu releases the package had to be downloaded.01:26
Bashing-omtgm4883: :) Whodda thunk it .. Maybe then 16.10 has additional support that 16.04 lacks ??01:27
tgm4883Bashing-om: Possibly. Just means I'll have to do the upgrade dance on this PC every 6 months01:28
Fensterbut, remember, I dont need the windows partition anymore as it is "busted"01:29
greengameplayerOkay, I'm having a problem: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)01:44
greengameplayerE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?01:44
greengameplayerCan anyone help me?01:45
greengameplayerNVM01:45
Bashing-omgreengameplayer: Generally it is true " another process using it " . Do you have more than once instance of the package manager open ?01:47
greengameplayerNo.01:47
Guy1524Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386395/01:47
greengameplayerCould it be doing a self-update ?01:47
Guy1524Ben64: just got back, sorry01:47
lordcirth_The other usual reason is forgetting to run it as root :)01:47
greengameplayerI'm running it with sudo and as root.01:48
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greengameplayerI can sudo su just fine but it won't let me do any apt related things01:49
Ben64don't do sudo su01:49
greengameplayerok.../01:49
greengameplayerNo luck01:49
Bashing-omgreengameplayer: Possible, ' ps -e | grep apt ' have any output ? or perhaps wait and bit and try again . At a root console 'sudo' will not be needed .01:50
greengameplayer3261 ?        00:00:00 apt.systemd.dai01:51
Bashing-omgreengameplayer: Mind ya I am not too familiar with systemd. but looks like apt is running .01:53
greengameplayerHello?01:53
greengameplayerOK01:53
greengameplayerIs it doing a update?01:53
Ben64probably01:53
greengameplayerWell, quite obviousally01:53
greengameplayerMy router is going crazy01:53
greengameplayerThanks!01:54
Guy1524my ubuntu installation is reserving ram for caching, then running out of ram and crashing01:55
Guy1524(reposted from a hour ago, had to go)01:55
lordcirth_Guy1524, cache ram will always be cleared if it's needed for processes, so that shouldn't be the problem.01:56
Ben64Guy1524: i see no evidence of you running out of ram01:56
Guy1524well it is a problem01:56
Guy1524I wasn't when I posted the free -h01:57
Guy1524because I barely had anything opened01:57
Ben64reproduce it01:57
lordcirth_Guy1524, well, I'm sure there is a problem, but it's not caching01:57
Guy1524well my computer just completely freezes01:57
lordcirth_Running out of RAM usually doesn't freeze - usually it kills processes01:57
Guy1524ok, ill open up eclipse and rust, and show you free -h when it has almost run out01:57
lordcirth_Guy1524, rust the game or the language?02:01
Guy1524game02:01
de-factowould be interessting to see a plot on the usage of the word "freeze" over time in #ubuntu02:02
lordcirth_Guy1524, Someone was here a while ago complaining that Rust froze his computer.02:02
de-factoi get the feeling its increasing in last months...02:02
Guy1524huh, well its not just rust, it happens with other applications as well02:02
giovoniis rust free2play?02:03
lordcirth_de-facto, logs are public, go wild :P02:03
lordcirth_no02:03
Guy1524http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386434/ is the current state of it, still loading02:03
Guy1524my computer will crash soon02:04
Guy1524cya02:04
Guy1524nvm, this time rust just closed out02:04
Guy1524thats weird, every other time it would crash my computer02:04
lordcirth_Guy1524, looks fine to me.  I run like that all the time02:05
Guy1524but rust crashed just as I ran out of ram02:05
Guy1524can I just disable dick caching temporarily to see if it works02:05
Guy1524*disk02:05
lordcirth_It's quite possible that Rust is naively checking ram usage and crashing when it thinks you've run out.02:06
Guy1524well this is the first time it has done that, before it would completely crash and lock up my computer02:06
Guy1524and not just w/ rust, other games as well02:06
lordcirth_Which would be wise to avoid killing important processes, if it were done correctly02:06
Ben64get more ram? don't run so much stuff at once?02:06
lordcirth_Guy1524, have you run a memtest?  Could be you just have bad RAM.02:06
Guy1524I have a UEFI mobo02:07
lordcirth_Ben64, he's got 6GB of freeable cache, he shouldnt have a problem02:07
Ben64maybe big files in tmpfs?02:07
lordcirth_there's a thought02:07
Guy1524what is tmpfs02:08
Guy1524btw, I don't have swap enabled02:08
Guy1524I only have a 60GB hdd02:08
Guy1524*ssd02:08
lordcirth_Guy1524, df -h02:09
lordcirth_Guy1524, tmpfs is a filesystem backed by RAM, often /tmp is a tmpfs02:09
Guy1524http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386444/02:09
Guy1524huh02:09
lordcirth_Why is /dev 99% full?  Mine is 0%.  I mean, it's not a real fs, but still, that's strange02:10
giovoniwhat's snap02:11
Guy1524I haven't a clue02:11
lordcirth_Guy1524, du -d1 -h /dev02:11
Guy1524http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386449/02:12
Guy1524and there were some no such file or directory errors that didn't get put into the pastebinit output02:12
Guy1524are those important?02:12
lordcirth_no02:13
Guy1524heres the whole output copied and pasted if you need it http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386455/02:13
Ben64de-facto: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386454/02:13
lordcirth_ /dev/.bootchart ?02:13
Guy1524I installed an application called bootchart a while back02:14
Guy1524forgot why02:14
lordcirth_Guy1524, well, try uninstalling it02:14
Guy1524don't think I need it, should I try getting rid of it02:14
Guy1524k02:14
Guy1524k, rmoved02:15
Guy1524*removed02:15
Guy1524I guess Ill try rebooting now, thats weird02:16
Guy1524thx, 4 the help bbl in 1 minute02:16
giovoniwhat distro do you use lordcirth_02:17
Guy1524it worked!02:17
Guy1524thanks guys, that was really weird02:18
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giovoniyou did all that stuff to stop rust from crashing? or were you trying to fix another issue?02:18
felansurk02:18
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Guy1524the problem was that this application called bootchart was constantly eating up 5.8 GB of my ram02:19
Guy1524feels like a burden has been lifted from my pc lol02:19
giovoniwhat is bootchart?02:19
Guy1524no idea installed it a while back02:19
lordcirth_giovoni, Kubuntu on this desktop, why?02:19
Guy1524forgot why02:19
giovonijust wondering02:19
giovonihm02:19
giovonii think there's a command called "whatis"02:20
lordcirth_It's a performance analyzer to speed up boots, iirc02:20
giovonisupposed to tell you what a program is or does or something02:20
giovonii c02:20
lordcirth_giovoni, 'man' ? :P02:20
giovonino, not man02:20
giovonilike whereis, whatis02:20
lordcirth_Yeah, there's whatis, too02:20
giovonisomething funny i came across one day02:20
giovoniif you run "whatis linux" it says "nothing appropriate"02:21
giovoni:)02:21
lordcirth_Apparently it's part of the man-db package, interesting02:21
giovoniah02:21
lordcirth_all it does is print the first line of the manpage ;P02:21
giovonihm02:22
lordcirth_Also, there's a nice command for when you dont know the command, 'man -k copy'02:22
giovonihave you used other desktop environments outside of kde02:22
lordcirth_will search the summary of all manpages for 'copy'02:23
lordcirth_giovoni, dozens.  Why?02:23
giovonii usually use apropos for that02:23
lordcirth_giovoni, they are the same02:23
giovoniand i'm trying to find a new DE02:23
giovonioh02:23
lordcirth_apropos was BSD, I think, and it's linked to man -k02:23
giovoniright now i'm using xubuntu, but i only went to that because i didn't like gnome 302:23
giovonibut i hear mate's come a long ways02:23
giovonii didn't know that02:24
lordcirth_giovoni, many, many, DEs/WMs work just fine, it's largely personal preference02:24
giovonium02:25
giovoniother WMs?02:26
giovonioh02:26
giovoniwhat do you like about kde over other DEs?02:26
lordcirth_giovoni, customizable, yet has all the bells and whistles.  I didn't want to hand-configure things again, I was in a hurry.  However, the taskbar has been crashing every ~10 times I change workspaces, thus, every few min.02:28
giovoniwhat were you using before kde02:29
lordcirth_giovoni, Fedora + gnome shell.  Before that, I have tried most of the major DEs & WMs out there.  I particularly like Openbox and dwm.02:30
giovonicrunchbang used openbox right?02:31
lordcirth_yes, that's where I first tried it02:31
giovonii thought that one was nice, efficient, but lacked some features02:31
giovonihave you ever used arch linux?02:31
lordcirth_giovoni, several times.02:31
giovonihow was it02:32
cfhowlett!ot02:32
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:32
lordcirth_Just fine, like all major distros.  And yeah, ot02:32
lordcirth_giovoni, gtg, 5:30am alarm :P02:33
giovoniwas that in response to what i asked?02:33
giovoniah02:33
giovonigoodnight!02:33
liuxgwhen I am trying to install "click", I get the error like http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386521/02:38
liuxgI recently found that installing "click" was a problem. I could not install it successfully on xenial 16.0402:40
EHRENZWEIGhola02:41
de-factoBen64 cool hehe i got it too after fighting with open office to plot it: http://s3.postimg.org/tgkmdt5wj/freeze.jpg02:41
de-factothe peak on 20.06.16 is a nickname hmm02:42
de-factoseems to be pretty evenly distributed, so all good i guess02:43
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liuxgi cannot successfully install "click" package on xenial 16.04, it is shown as http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386540/. can anyone help me out? thanks a lot.02:44
Bashing-om!ibfo click02:45
kicksled!libinfo click02:45
Bashing-om!info click02:45
ubottuclick (source: click): Click packages. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.45.1+16.10.20160916-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 14 kB, installed size 86 kB02:45
Bashing-om!info click xenial02:46
ubottuclick (source: click): Click packages. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.43+16.04.20160203-0ubuntu2 (xenial), package size 14 kB, installed size 85 kB02:46
liuxgubottu, how to resolve my problem. I am now trying to install my ubuntu phone SDK. click is a must for installing it.02:47
ubottuliuxg: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:47
Bashing-omliuxg: ppa-pyrge the 0ubuntu3 version ??02:48
liuxgBashing-om, could you please tell me the exact command? thanks02:49
Bashing-omliuxg: Maybe .. How did you install click ? show in a pastebin ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' .02:51
kicksledliuxg: try apt-get install -f02:52
liuxgBashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386570/, this is the output02:52
liuxgkicksled, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386572/, this is the output of exectuting the command02:53
kicksledliuxg: sudo dpkg-reconfigure click - what does that give you?02:54
liuxgkicksled, liuxg@liuxg:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure click02:55
liuxg/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: click is broken or not fully installed02:55
wafflejockliuxg, appears like Bashing-om said you have the wrong version, the /usr/bin/click source has the import line you see the error about but seems due to lack of dependencies coming in with the install of click (maybe because it came from one of the PPAs and wasn't correct there)02:56
wafflejockliuxg, what do you see from `apt-cache policy click`02:56
liuxgwafflejock, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386583/02:57
wafflejockliuxg, could also try `apt-cache showpkg click` which should show dependencies02:57
wafflejockliuxg, here's what it looks like on 16.04 without all those PPAs http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386587/02:58
wafflejock^^ showpkg I mean02:58
liuxgwafflejock, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386590/, this the dependenc02:59
Picisubuntu02:59
Bashing-omliuxg: Can not make out the origin of click in that source list file .. can we get a hint from ' apt-cache policy click ' ?02:59
wafflejockBashing-om, got it here http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386583/03:00
wafflejockBashing-om, looks like a mirror but I don't see that in his sources.list03:00
liuxgBashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386594/, I think mostly it came from the ubuntu sdk.03:00
kicksledhas to be something with that mirror. installing from official repos went without a hitch on my test vm03:01
Bashing-omwafflejock: Huummmmm .. getting deeper .03:02
wafflejockyeah looked at the source of the package here the import line is just to check for and fix issues with a name conflict with another python lib it looks like but would be good to know why the dependencies are different or why the line doesn't run with the version you have03:02
wafflejock"# There is an unfortunate name clash with03:04
wafflejock# https://pypi.python.org/pypi/click; try to detect this and take evasive03:04
wafflejock# action.03:04
wafflejockimport click" << when I grepped for import click on the source, but would be good to get you on the regular released package since it works03:04
wafflejocksorry multiline :(03:04
liuxgwafflejock, is that a release bug? I am now trying to change a server and see.03:05
wafflejockliuxg, no in the regular released version for 16.04 it's the ubuntu2 package not ubuntu3 version of click that you have there here on 16.04 I installed and ran that no problem, same with kicksled so we know that the real released package is fine03:07
Bashing-omliuxg: As a side issue while on the mind .. Are you still using google-chrome ? " # deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main " .03:07
wafflejockliuxg, it has the line I pasted above in it but is working fine, for some reason on yours I think it has that line but fails due to not being able to import click; but looked like the python-click package was in your depends too so not sure where that lib should come from03:08
liuxgBashing-om, wafflejock, so, it is a mirror site problem? I changed it to "Main Server" to see how it works.03:08
wafflejockliuxg, maybe03:08
Bashing-omliuxg: I am like wafflejock It is strange .03:10
liuxgwafflejock, what is the correct way to install it? I am now trying remove it and reinstall it again.03:10
Bashing-omliuxg: Is the package manager tracking it . what returns ' dpkg -l click ' ?03:11
liuxgBashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386623/03:12
liuxgBashing-om, what are the correct steps to remove all of files in the "click" package? I want to install it from scrach03:13
kicksledliuxg: do you need the ubuntu3 package?03:13
liuxgkicksled, I do not know whether it is needed or not.  I just want to have the ubuntu SDK installed.03:14
kicksledseems strange that policy shows a mirror that not listed in your sources.list ?03:14
liuxgkicksled, whichh mirror?03:15
kicksledmirror.aliyun.com that shows up on policy, can't see it in your sources.list pastebin03:16
wafflejockliuxg, in general apt remove packagename to delete binaries from a package and apt purge packagename to remove both binaries and config, but agree with kicksled and Bashing-om it's a head scratcher03:17
liuxgkicksled, yeah, that was choosen from "Settings"==>"Software & updates", then "Download from". it is a local China mirror site.03:17
wafflejockbut I'm not very familiar with mirrors do those go somewhere other than the sources.list file?03:17
wafflejockah03:17
kicksledliuxg: ah, ok. because I tried adding the ubuntu-sdk-team ppa as well that you have in your sources.list so I could try to install the ubuntu3 version from that repo, and that worked well as well. has to be something with that mirror thats broken somehow?03:20
liuxgwafflejock, I have changed to  "Main Server" anyway. The closer server provides better download speed.03:20
wafflejockliuxg, yeah try to switch mirrors purge and redo the install if you can03:20
liuxgkicksled, I think the ubuntu sdk gets the click since it is a must package for it.03:20
kicksledboth main repo and ubuntu-sdk-team ppa installs fine here, so switch mirror purge and retry install03:20
liuxgwafflejock, sure, I will try to purge everything.03:21
liuxgwafflejock, when I am trying to remove click, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386660/, is there anyway to purge it?03:24
newscripterWhat is the reasoning behind shipping Firefox over other browsers in ubuntu?03:25
liuxgwafflejock, I got this when trying to purge the package http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386668/03:25
newscripterWhy not Chrome?03:25
kicksledliuxg: sudo apt-get purge click03:26
cfhowlettnewscripter, why should we use chrome?  but, as always, users have the choice.03:26
newscripterdo linux users, in general, prefer firefox?03:26
liuxgkicksled, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386671/, same error03:26
cfhowlettnewscripter, there is no reliable research that I know about "linux users".  e.g. we can't even get a definitive count of same.03:27
newscripterfair, so do the developers of ubuntu think firefox is a better browser than chrome?03:27
cfhowlettapparently03:28
newscripteri always use chrome but if the consensus is it's better than ff i'd give it a shot03:28
kicksledliuxg: what do you get now if you try sudo apt-get install -f ?03:28
orlocki prefer eyeballs03:28
newscripterwondering why though03:28
cfhowlettfull circle.  don't know.  use what you want.03:28
Bashing-omliuxg: Maybe, try as " sudo dpkg -P click ' .03:28
orlocknewscripter: a lot of people will use firefox because it's been around longer03:28
orlocknewscripter: also, they have different levels of resource consumption03:29
newscripterok nice03:29
liuxgkicksled, Bashing-om http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386678/03:29
newscripterthat's a technical reason, which is what i was hoping to hear03:29
newscripterfirefox i presume is more efficient than chrome?03:29
cfhowlettasked and answered03:29
liuxgBashing-om, I have done that http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386681/. I used sudo dpkg purge click command.03:30
kicksledliuxg: perhaps you need to manually install the click module? pip install click I think would install it?03:30
liuxgkicksled, I do not know why I have the warning like that http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386685/. I do not have a directory named "/home/liuxg/.cache/pip/http" in my home.03:32
wafflejockliuxg, yeah looks like problem is the package "pre-removal" script for the now partially installed but not working package is also throwing an error so it doesn't get purged either....03:32
kicksledliuxg: sudo pip install click perhaps03:32
kicksledliuxg: nvm - I read wrong03:32
kicksledliuxg: what do you get when you do sudo apt-get remove click now? same module error?03:33
liuxgkicksled, I have added "sudo", but when I install "phablet-tools", it gives the same error like http://paste.ubuntu.com/23386695/03:33
kicksledliuxg: yeah, click installed fine. the cache warning is beacuse of sudo if I'm not wrong. but it installed03:34
Bashing-omliuxg: We get any hints ' systemctl status click-system-hooks.service ' ?03:34
Bashing-omliuxg: kicksled " 0 to remove and 13 not upgraded. " see if we can get this system updatd .03:36
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kicksledBashing-om: ah, missed that link03:37
xor-freenetcan someone tell me in which channel the ubuntu mysql maintainers would hang out?03:38
liuxgkicksled, what should I proceed?  thanks03:38
cfhowlettnewscripter, a more pointed response to your query:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/269472/why-is-ubuntu-shipped-with-firefox03:39
newscripterthank you cfhowlett03:39
cfhowlettnewscripter, happy2help!03:39
newscripter+rep03:40
kicksledliuxg: to me, it looks like click is stilling giving you some issues somehow. looks like its not configured. " sudo dpkg-reconfigure click " whats the output?03:40
kicksledliuxg: you could also try to fix broken dependencies again with apt-get install -f03:40
janat08is there a way to quit ubuntu for dualboot while saving state03:44
cfhowlettjanat08, in a virtual machine?03:44
janat08nope03:44
cfhowlettnope03:44
janat08dualboot03:44
janat08like you can hiberante with windows which will then startup into dualboot menu03:45
janat08during which when starting back into widnows will load up previous state03:46
janat08i got more than enough swap for that stack overflow03:46
janat08*from that03:46
cfhowlettyou can restore a suspended session but if you reboot, it will restart.03:46
kicksledjanat08: http://superuser.com/a/13681403:47
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cfhowlettkicksled, good article but I got chills at the "shared NTFS partition".  WHY would someone do that!?  *rhetorical query*03:48
kicksledyeah03:48
janat08well I don't have that, and I don't know how to bear mode the ubuntu03:48
kicksledbasically, I wouldn't try it even if I found a way to do it due to risk of data loss and corruption03:49
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cfhowlettkicksled, indeed.  just a bad idea all around IMHO.03:49
kicksledoh yes.03:49
janat08i got 4x the swap space of ram03:49
kicksledjanat08: any reason why you need to do it?03:50
janat08otherwise tell them steam ppl or ubuntu devs to do something about steam not wanting to install on ubuntu03:50
cfhowlettjanat08, that's just false.  steam installs on Ubuntu with few issues.03:50
janat08im not in love of having to start up all my dev tools and stuff every time id like to take a break03:50
kicksledwhat is your problem with installing steam?03:50
janat08something to do with steam shipping its own packages that are outdated for graphics03:51
janat08i couldn't get around it with troubleshooting03:51
janat08that stated that in 16.10 what i have it shouldn't even occur03:51
kicksledhmm, ok. without specific error messages its difficult to think of what it could be03:56
jontorrhello03:56
kicksledello03:56
jontorrhello friends, i have a question... i use a root user for login to ubuntu. when i login, ubuntu show notif about "cannot load .profil" . what the solution friend.. thanks :D03:59
orlockjontorr: That's not reccomended - log in as a non-root user and use sudo for things that need root04:01
orlockOh, he left04:01
kicksledyeah04:01
kicksledwas about to write the same04:01
xor-freenetthe bugtracker entry for the full kmail/kontact/akonadi breakage due to the mysql security update is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/akonadi/+bug/1633855  in case anyone is interested. i'll leave this channel now but continue to be online in case someone wants to privmsg me who the best person to contact about this would be.04:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1633855 in akonadi (Ubuntu) "akonadi fails to start after upgrade to yakkety" [Undecided,Confirmed]04:06
stan_man_canHey all. I have an Xbox one and my controller works when i plug it in to my ubuntu machine. Just got a new xbox controller and no dice.04:10
stan_man_canSounds like there's driver support in kernel 4.5, ubuntu 16.04 has 4.4 ?04:15
kicksledstan_man_can: http://askubuntu.com/a/79825404:16
stan_man_cankicksled, that seems kinda hacky04:19
stan_man_canhttp://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/05/install-linux-kernel-4-6-ubuntu-16-04/04:20
stan_man_canwhat about this?04:20
wafflejockstan_man_can, kicksled suggested adding a dynamic kernel module you're suggesting replace the kernel... which sounds more hacky :)04:20
chrstphrchvzI got added to Ubuntu Wiki Editors team, but when I try logging onto the wiki (redirected to SSO, now SSO is redirecting me to wiki), the page never loads04:20
stan_man_canwafflejock, i guess04:21
kicksledwafflejock: I know, i know.. ;)04:21
FoeHammeredSo. That was a little exhausting.04:22
FoeHammeredOh! Sorry, wrong channel!04:23
aerostat_whats_tis this real?04:25
michael_phi04:28
orlockIs this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide...04:28
michael_panyone know how to use wget to download images from an entire website04:28
orlockyeah04:29
orlockmichael_p: wget has options for recursion04:31
orlockand i think extension filters04:31
kicksledmichael_p: something like " wget -nd -r -P /save/location -A jpeg,jpg,bmp,gif,png http://www.domain.com "04:33
chrstphrchvznevermind, it works after waiting a minute or two04:33
kicksledmichael_p: also see http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/manual/wget.html#Recursive-Download04:34
michael_pcause i am getting a bunch of htmls04:48
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thewozzaet05:21
FireStrikerHey I need some help05:26
Drake_WangFireStriker, ask away. Don't wait for permission.05:26
FireStrikerCan you uninstall lubuntu duel boot?05:26
elias_aI want to gather information about the latency of my 5g connection. Any suggestions of graphical ping logger?05:29
kicksledelias_a: something like smokeping?05:36
guivercFireStriker: yes you can remove grub (dual boot)   you can have windoze restore MBR; or have gnu/linux not use grub; depending upon what you want to return to.05:36
kicksledFireStriker: http://askubuntu.com/q/13353305:37
elias_akicksled: I actually found smokeping but it won't start without sendmail. :/05:37
FireStrikerOk it's a little complicated ok here's the problem some thing broke, now when I login it just black screens shows some clear thing than brings back the login screen how do I fix that?05:39
guivercFireStriker: that's very vague and unhelpful..  its likely info in GRUB is wrong; something has changed and it needs re-building.  if you hit 'e' (edit) you can edit the 'option' you were going to boot/run to temporarily fix issue; to get OS to boot; then fix it there; or boot a live distro (any *ubuntu) and have it rebuild grub.  many options depending upon what your issue actually is.05:41
elias_akicksled: Ok. Found the answer: https://normally.online/2015/06/04/step-by-step-guide-to-installing-smokeping-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts/05:42
FireStrikerIt's vague Ik but it's all it is doing05:42
kicksledelias_a: great05:43
liuxgkicksled, I think the click package has problem.05:45
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liuxgwafflejock, I just tried to reinstall the "click" package. it gave me the same error like "ImportError: cannot import name 'commands'.05:46
FireStrikerOk so instead of boot I hit e05:47
kicksledliuxg: see this http://askubuntu.com/a/61522005:47
liuxgwafflejock, kicksled, I have changed my xenial from proposed channel to stable channel, and now, it depends on ubuntu2 instead of ubuntu3 http://paste.ubuntu.com/23387053/05:47
guivercme:  i'd boot a live usb/dvdr & look at grub; ensure UUID's are correct; /boot/grub... is there & not wiped/removed.. chances are you'll know what likely broke the grub (eg. updates for something, windoze etc) that likely caused issue; and i'd search for that.   your issue is not knowing enough of how it works; thus where to look & what the likely the few chars you need to change to make it work.  could be the text mode05:47
guivercis black text on black screen; thus you can't read.   a bios setting (video boot mode) may help with this; but I don't know your hardware (changed a laptop bios yesterday that as side effect made grub unreadable.. i know what i did that changed grub, so just undid it)05:47
FireStrikerOk what is grub?05:48
liuxgkicksled, I have successfully removed the package, but reinstallation causes me the error.05:49
kicksledliuxg: same error message?05:49
FireStrikerAlso to be clear I can get into win 705:49
guivercgrub=GRand Unified Bootloader or something like that.05:49
liuxgkicksled, yes, the pacakge is sucessfully removed by modifying the file at /var/lib/dpkg/info click.prerm05:50
wafflejockliuxg, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/click/+bug/1486841 some info about debugging further to see which click it's running by using strace05:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1486841 in click (Ubuntu) "from click import commands: ImportError: cannot import name 'commands'" [High,Fix released]05:50
guivercif you boot your windoze restore media; it'll fix the MBR (master boot record) with a single command; ie. disable grub from booting.  if you don't want gnu/linux; windoze will disable it.05:50
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liuxgkicksled, when installing click, it shows "ImportError: cannot import name 'commands"05:50
FireStrikerOh I see it now it's the dual boot interface05:51
kicksledliuxg: how about: sudo rm /usr/bin/click and then sudo apt-get autoremove -f click ?05:51
wafflejockliuxg, based on what's in the bug there and in the SO post seems having a previously installed python before upgrade could have left some local installations of click that may be causing problems05:51
liuxgwafflejock, yes, exactly the error message.05:51
guivercMBR = master boot record; the first sector (512 bytes) that a x86 machine boots & tells it where to go to find OS.  This has been same since early DOS days.. mbrfix or something like that is windows command to fix (I forget; been years since I had to support windoze)05:52
liuxgkicksled, I did that already05:52
wafflejockliuxg, comment #6 there has a command to use strace to see where it's trying to load the file from as someone points out in comment #7 there cleaning up the old version fixed the issue05:52
kicksledliuxg: then see link wafflejock provided and the comments he mentions, hopefully you get it resolved05:53
guivercMBR boots; and loads next part of grub from /boot/grub; which boots initramfs (initial ram fs=filesystem; or linux small linux kernel that boots system), gets machine up & running then boots read kernel (vmlinuz) approx..   windows is same; only its NTkernal instead of linuz.05:53
FireStrikerOk05:53
liuxgwafflejock, do I need to install the click package before doing that?05:54
guiverc(could be /boot/grub2 instead of /boot/grub - depending upon version of grub; I can't look on this machine as my ubuntu 16.04 is booted using freebsd controlled grub!)05:54
guiverc  (looks like /boot/grub for my ubuntu 16.04.1)05:55
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wafflejockliuxg, no the issue is presuming that there is some click package already installed that's being run instead of the one in /usr/bin from the repos05:56
liuxgwafflejock, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23387072/05:56
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liuxgwafflejock, it seems that my click package has been removed.05:57
FireStrikerIs there a way to reinstall lubuntu as something has broken and won't let me in lol, the GRUB is working I can get into win 7 and lubuntu but when I attempt to login to lubuntu it black screens and says something like "/dev/sda5: clean 'numbers'/'numbers' files, 'numbers'/'numbers' blocks05:57
guivercFireStriker: are you looking to fix grub; or just want to return to other os (windows from memory?)  if you want to return to only windoze; easiest fix is to tell windoze to fix it; ie. boot your restore media & have it re-write MBR.  its only first sector of disk; so easy to fix; lets you return machine to being useful under windohs. you can always boot a live media  & restore grub to booting a gnu/linux or other OS05:58
guivercanytime later in future when you have time to fix.05:58
guiverc.05:59
liuxgwafflejock, kicksled, the installation http://paste.ubuntu.com/23387077/05:59
guivercfsck = filesystem check; clean is good result (or errors fixed; sounds like the messages are just it checking filesystem05:59
FireStrikerFuck no I don't want another 4 full bloody days of updates I didn't back up the MBR fuck06:00
FireStrikerSorry for my language06:00
guivercYES you can re-install lubuntu; it'll wipe your system files; you could tell it to format / (root) partition; just ensure you tell it to use correct partition. if you had it store data (/home) in a seperate partition; you'll not lose any data; but always better to backup anything important before you re-install lubuntu.06:01
liuxgwafflejock, kicksled http://paste.ubuntu.com/23387080/06:01
elias_aThe ultimate simple tool for pinging seems to be mtr.06:02
FireStrikerOk let me find my USB might make a boot DVD06:02
wafflejockliuxg, try, sudo pip3 uninstall click ..... then sudo apt-get -f install06:05
guivercFireStriker: sorry i'll be away next ~20 mins; hopefully someone else can help, or if you want me to try, will have to be later.06:05
wafflejockliuxg, everything I'm finding about this basically seems to say the same thing but in slightly different ways, there seems to be some conflicting version, people either say remove the one from apt and just use pip or vice versa but all seem to point to a conflict from what I can find06:06
FireStrikerOk06:07
liuxgwafflejock, it seems that your above two commands worked. I'll try to see how it works for the ubuntu SDK installation06:08
liuxgwafflejock, it seems to be another two problems http://paste.ubuntu.com/23387088/06:08
stevendaleHi06:09
kicksledliuxg: sudo apt-get install -f06:09
chrstphrchvzI reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1532374 a while back. Is there a reason the minimal/netboot images use an old (2010) version of ubuntu-cdimage? The images for powerpc are missing out on a fix that allows booting from devices other than the built-in CD drive.06:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1532374 in Ubuntu CD Images "hardcoded 'cd' devalias on mini.iso for PowerPC" [Undecided,New]06:10
liuxgwafflejock, I think this is a different issue.  after I do "sudo apt-get install -f", it is still the the same06:10
stevendale*buntu 16.10 fails to grub-install to /dev/sda (my internal hard drive), i've tried different Installation USB sticks, two different laptops, I've verified the download and the hash matches the one on the site, I've tried using ext2 and ext4 on both laptops, the target for the grub-install is not a sub-partition, both laptops are Intel 32-bit BIOS based systems06:11
wafflejockliuxg, try to install the dependency directly like sudo apt install webapp-container, not entirely sure why that can happen but seen it before06:11
stevendaleDoes the Ubuntu installer default to using GPT table now? Or is it a bug in the installer?06:12
liuxgwafflejock, thanks. I am now trying ...06:12
kicksledliuxg: you could also try apt-mark showhold and then apt-mark unhold <package name> and try to reinstall. I see that have worked for others with that issue with broken packages being held.06:13
stevendaleOkay, i get the error even when manually partitioning and making an MBR table06:14
liuxgkicksled, thanks. I will try that and see how06:14
stevendaleSays grub-pc has no installation candidate06:14
kicksledliuxg: if you do it that way you also should remove the package that is broken before reinstalling06:14
l9what file do i need too add the dns settings now that someone decided that /etc/resolv.conf no longer should be edited...06:15
liuxgkicksled, do you mean ubuntu-sdk-ide in my case?06:15
kicksledliuxg: yeah, if that is the package showing up when you run the apt-mark showhold command06:16
FatSpitfiremorning guys :)06:17
liuxgkicksled, thanks. I will try it06:17
kicksledmorning06:17
msevworkdoes anyone know how to debug a gnome extension not installing?06:18
kicksledmsevwork: from extensions.gnome.org?06:19
styler2goHi, i have problems uninstalling mysql-server on my linux system. can someone help me? i am trying apt-get purge mysql-server but it always gets stuck at: https://p.styler2go.de/2366333/06:19
msevworkkicksled, yes from there...the weather extension is not installing06:20
FatSpitfireany of you guys have experience with rails ?06:20
kicksledstyler2go: http://askubuntu.com/a/64090006:21
kicksledmsevwork: are you using firefox as browser?06:21
wafflejockFatSpitfire, limited but there is #rails06:21
msevworkyes kicksled06:21
kicksledmsevwork: you have to allow plugin execution in firefox, http://askubuntu.com/a/76737306:21
msevworkyes i did06:21
msevworkkicksled, other extensions installed fine06:22
msevworkjust this one in question doesn't06:22
FatSpitfirewafflejock , thanks :)06:22
kicksledwhich one?06:22
styler2gokicksled, it is stuck at purge mysql-server06:22
msevworkthe most popular weather one kicksled06:23
msevworkmaybe its not compatible with my version of gnome (3.18)06:23
msevworkthe OpenWeather one works tho06:24
kicksledstrange06:24
msevworkdunno tho how to change the location06:25
msevworkhaha in this openweather one haha06:25
kicksledmsevwork: check the comments, there are a comment from a user called iluxa777 describing how to install on 3.18 if you can't install directly from webpage06:26
kicksledstyler2go: just stuck, no errors?06:27
msevworku fizbd ut06:27
msevworkI found it*06:27
styler2gokicksled, This installation of MySQL is already upgraded to 5.7.16, use --force if you still need to run mysql_upgrade06:28
styler2gothat's what it says06:28
kicksledstyler2go: hmm. you could force the removal with --force-yes option, but the risk with that is that you don't get any prompts if its doing something potenially harmful. so not sure if I would do that unless its the last resort. I haven't had any issues with removing mysql-server myself, looks like a strange error.06:32
kicksledstyler2go: 16.04 server ?06:32
styler2gokicksled, well.. if it will harm something i will just reinstall i guess.. i have no other ideas left06:33
styler2gokicksled, i am not sure to be honest, at least it has no GUI. uname: Linux ubuntu 4.4.0-45-generic #66-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 19 14:12:37 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux06:33
Ben64styler2go: cat /etc/issue06:34
styler2goUbuntu 16.04.1 LTS \n \l06:35
Ben64so... whats the problem06:35
kicksledstyler2go: okey, if its not a production environment and you have backups etc, go for it. you can also ask in #ubuntu-server and see if any of the server folks there have experienced the same issue06:35
kicksledBen64: issues with uninstalling mysql-server https://p.styler2go.de/2366333/06:36
Ben64oh uninstalling06:36
styler2goyeah, its just my local dev machine... want to reinstall mysql-server06:36
Ben64reinstall?06:36
styler2gowell, first purge06:36
Ben64what is your goal06:37
kicksledcomplete removal before reinstallation06:37
Ben64but why06:37
styler2gothis is what it does: https://p.styler2go.de/7325439/06:37
styler2gowhy is it tryinf ro start up mysql when i try to purge it?06:38
Ben64you didn't purge mysql-server-5.706:38
styler2gooh06:38
styler2goi'll try06:38
styler2go--force-yes seems like fun06:38
styler2gokicksled, i guess the force-yes was the magic trick. seems to work now06:39
l9why is /etc/resolv.conf getting over written each time i reboot?06:39
kicksledstyler2go: i guess Ben64's answer did the trick, not the force06:39
Ben64l9: did you check the 2nd line of /etc/resolv.conf06:39
styler2goi already tried the purge mysql-server-5.7 yesterday but that didn't help either06:39
styler2gowith force-yes it now did the purge06:40
kicksledstyler2go: ah, glad you got it sorted06:40
l9Ben64: yes i see that DO NOT edit i am considering setting resolv.conf too +r and force it06:41
styler2gokicksled, now the reinstallation fails :/ https://p.styler2go.de/7392273/06:42
Ben64l9: what are you trying to accomplish06:44
kicksledstyler2go: did you stop the mysql service before you purged btw?06:44
kicksledstyler2go: try this troubleshooting guide http://askubuntu.com/a/76362306:44
l9Ben64: i am trying too set a static dns server that stays there after a reboot... need too test diffrent dns server settings on diffrent dns servers06:45
kicksledl9: you're better off setting it in /etc/network/interfaces .06:47
kicksledl9: but if you want to make changes to resolv.conf make the changes to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base instead06:47
Ben64l9: or set it in your network manager06:48
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l9kicksled: thanks, any reason vi /etc/resolv.conf is obsolete?06:49
styler2gokicksled, thanks for that guide06:49
l9Ben64: do not have network manager06:49
sonu_nkhi when i logged in my server via ssh root@myip and password enter. it is showing me root@ubuntu. it should not root@myip ?06:50
Ben64l9: i'd suggest /etc/network/interfaces then06:51
Ben64sonu_nk: it's showing the hostname06:51
EriC^^!hostname | sonu_nk06:51
ubottusonu_nk: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hosts to include BOTH the old and new hostname and then change /etc/hostname to the new one. WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly.06:51
l9kicksled: base is also getting over written ..06:51
l9Ben64: must be the interfaces cause thats the only place i find the default dns settings...06:52
sonu_nkEriC^^, i just purchased plain cloud and i m just want to run my domain on it06:52
kicksledl9: resolv.conf gets overwritten by the data your local dhcp server provides. but changes you make to that base file will be included in resolv.conf. I forgot, you have to sudo dpkg-reconfigure resolvconf and answer no to dynamic updates. bu I recommend setting the dns server in interfaces file instead on your network adapter06:52
sonu_nkcan you guide me here06:52
Ben64sonu_nk: 'plain cloud' means nothing06:52
EriC^^sonu_nk: check /etc/hosts06:52
EriC^^and /etc/hostname06:52
sonu_nkBen64, yes linode06:52
HardradaMy main pc just froze up. What can i do to find out what went wrong ?06:53
EriC^^Hardrada: look into /var/log/dmesg06:53
kicksledl9: in interfaces file under the correct network adapter, add the lines " dns-search google.com " and " dns-nameservers <serverip> "06:53
l9kicksled: done :) but why and when did this change?06:54
ducassekicksled: google.com? why?06:54
l9cause he needed too point out it needed a host06:55
HardradaEriC^^, nothing has been logged uet06:55
Hardradayet*06:55
EriC^^Hardrada: try /var/log/kern.log*06:55
kicksledducasse: example06:57
sonu_nkEriC^^, https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23387165/ here why i found in hostname and host file06:57
ducassekicksled: ah, just thought it was odd :)06:57
kicksledmaybe a bit quick on the trigger answering, sorry for that. add the same domain as hostname -f puts out06:57
freddishEriC^^, https://paste.ubuntu.com/23387164/ "Hardrada main computer":06:57
kicksledducasse: yeah, sorry for that :p06:58
kicksledl9: not sure why and when tbh.06:59
l9Ben64: you know why it has changed? i am thinking it might be with the systemd change07:00
freddishIts the second time my pc has frozen up in a week. And i have to "Power off button". to restart it.07:00
l9freddish: temp?07:00
freddishl9, where can i see that ? :S07:01
l9freddish, http://askubuntu.com/questions/15832/how-do-i-get-the-cpu-temperature07:02
freddishl9, none of the cores is over 37.degree07:03
l9freddish: then you need too understand what could be wrong and what you where doing the instant it froze07:04
SaintMoriartyCan anyone recommend a good application to use manage 10,000+ date time based schedules?07:04
freddishJust clicking on a tab in firefox :/07:04
l9both times?07:05
kicksledfreddish: check /var/log/syslog and see what happens at time of freeze07:05
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freddishl9, last time i was just watching a video07:06
freddishl9, and this time i was clicking on a tab on firefox07:06
l9freddish: if you have a look into the logs you would see that the computer does alot more that just one task, and it can freeze if something goes wrong or it could be a memory error07:07
freddishl9, yes i know, but i dont know what i am looking for. i can see the logs. But i dont understand them.07:08
l9freddish: first on the line there is a time code07:09
Goeland86hi all, I upgraded to yakkety yak yesterday, and today spyder3 (which worked fine on xenial) throws an error about not finding PyQt4... any ideas?07:09
Goeland86correction: ImportError: No module named 'PyQt4.QtWebKit'07:10
l9freddish: go back too the time stamp of the last failure and see if there is anything marked with error07:10
yhhi07:13
l9freddish: or you can sudo apt install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/syslog07:13
freddishl9, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23387199/07:14
yhnews07:16
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l9freddish: Oct 27 08:54:40 thats the time you computer froze?07:16
freddishyes l907:17
rykungthis is cool07:18
yh/?07:19
kicksledGoeland86: not sure if it will work, but have seen others having success with installing qt4webkit from https://packages.debian.org/jessie/python-qt407:21
sonu_nksuggest host name Please :)07:21
kicksledGoeland86: download the .deb and sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb07:21
kicksledsonu_nk: suggest host name?07:22
sonu_nkkicksled, if you any good name for hostname . i am asking just good words which you can use for your server host07:23
kicksledsonu_nk: angoramagician07:23
l9freddish: i think you might have stumbled into a bug, both with hdparm and rsyslog07:28
freddishl9, im not sure i understand. And what should i do ?.07:29
Goeland86kicksled, I'll try that, though I have python-qt4 installed already I think07:30
l9freddish: you could do a sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade07:31
Goeland86kicksled, yeah, "package already installed"07:31
M5M400mornin07:31
skip-zhaothere are any body online?07:33
M5M400yeah07:33
skip-zhaoit is my first time use this app07:34
l9what app?07:34
Furaihttps://file.furai.pl/2016-10-27-09-29-55.txt << anyone has any idea why would this happen? I've asked in #nginx but they seem to be asleep.07:34
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Netekhi all, I am having some issues.  Is there anyway I can safely increase /dev/root directory without too much hassle?  Mine is set at 20GB but is full and cannot do anything really on the server07:41
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NetekI have tried cleaning apt and googling different terms but cannot figure out how to increase it without affecting the system07:42
vltNetek: What do you mean by “set”? Is it an LVM volume?07:46
FuraiAnyone have run into issue with flashplugin-installer not being able to download it's stuff?07:50
Netekvlt its a dedicated server that we use for experimental purposes, ie web and python development.  running Ubuntu 16.04 64bit07:50
FuraiNvm, it worked now.07:50
MoL0ToVthe following command don't work anymore, says "permission denied" where is the problem? : sudo mount -o username=ubuntu,password=password,domain=domain.local,uid=1000,gid=1000 -t cifs //server/pubblica /mnt08:06
gezbquit08:15
_ramokgood morning08:16
_ramoki've upgraded my 14.04 LTS to the latest 16.04 on my server. after restarting the server, the console stays in the grub console . how can i get back to my default login console?08:17
EriC^^_ramok: type "ls -l" in grub08:19
EriC^^tell me what you see08:19
_ramokEriC^^: http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=7ea72bc08:21
Netekany ideas on how I can increase the / (/dev/root) partition on a server?08:22
Ben64Netek: why do you say /dev/root08:23
hateballLVM install, I am guessing08:24
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NetekBen64 /dev/root        20G   18G     0 100% /08:24
hateballbut it'd be dev-mapper-root or something by default08:24
NetekFilesystem /dev/root08:24
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_ramokEriC^^: that's a screenshot08:25
hateballNetek: what does "sudo fdisk -l /dev/root" say?08:25
EriC^^_ramok: ls (hd0,msdos1)/boot08:25
Guest14025hi there ..08:26
Netekhateball http://pastebin.com/hNTtMfRs08:26
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hateballNetek: Is that all? There should be mention of the filesystem used08:27
Netekhateball thats all it says08:27
hateballNetek: alright, how about "lsblk -f"08:28
hateballactually I guess that may not show LVM, hmm08:28
_ramokEriC^^: http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=431afac08:28
Netekhateball http://pastebin.com/KCL8nf41 not sure what all of it means08:29
EriC^^_ramok: configfile (hd0,msdos1)/boot/grub/grub.cfg08:29
hateballNetek: well it shows you're using software raid08:30
hateballNetek: And I know sod all about mdadm, so... someone else will be of better help in growing that08:30
Netekhateball ok.  so, is there a way I can shrink one storage and increase the /root partition?08:31
_ramokEriC^^: and what than?08:31
_ramoki see an empty grub prompt again08:31
hateballNetek: I'll assume so, tho shrinking file systems is not usually done live so it's a process08:31
EriC^^_ramok: did you get the normal grub menu?08:31
EriC^^oh08:31
EriC^^_ramok: insmod xfs08:32
Netekhateball yeah I thought so, its a remote server so not sure what to do.08:32
_ramokEriC^^:  grub prompt08:32
EriC^^_ramok: set root='(hd0,msdos1)'08:32
hateballNetek: like I said, I dont know anything about mdadm (software raid) as I only ever use LVM myself... But somehow you need to resize the partitions and then resize the filesystems08:33
EriC^^_ramok: linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-77-generic root=UUID=39020941-copy it from previous screenshot08:33
Netekor find out what is using up most storage in the root and delete them as a temporary fix, just so I can get mysql up and running again08:33
hateballNetek: it's possible that gparted has support for this, but if it's a headless server...  Idunno08:33
liuxgdoes anyone know what the hell the "4" is in my file system on xenial? How can I get rid of it?08:33
_ramokEriC^^:  i'm on th pone, just a sec08:33
EriC^^_ramok: initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-77-generic08:34
EriC^^_ramok: boot08:34
Ben64liuxg: what08:34
liuxgBen64, the line shows "-????????? ? ?     ?           ?             ? 4".08:34
Ben64what line what are you talking about08:34
liuxgBen64, the line in http://paste.ubuntu.com/23387381/  "-????????? ? ?     ?           ?. it resides in my .cache home directory.08:35
Ben64liuxg: it's like you came in here halfway through a conversation. can you start at the beginning08:36
liuxgBen64, in my home directory .cache/thumbnails/large, there is an item listed as "4" as shown in http://paste.ubuntu.com/23387381/08:36
OerHeksliuxg, looks like bit-rot, check your hdd for health08:36
EriC^^that should be a nirvana song08:37
EriC^^looks like bit-rot *tam ta rum*08:37
liuxgOerHeks, I am thinking whether it is related to the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/click/+bug/1486841/comments/8 since I had a hard time to install the "click" package.08:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1486841 in click (Ubuntu) "from click import commands: ImportError: cannot import name 'commands'" [High,Fix released]08:37
liuxgOverCoder, that is very bad to hear that.08:38
EriC^^liuxg: try sudo apt-get install smartmontools08:39
EriC^^sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda08:39
liuxgEriC^^, it will check my hard disk?08:40
EriC^^liuxg: yeah08:40
EriC^^paste the output in a pastebin08:40
liuxgEriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23387409/08:41
Furaihttps://file.furai.pl/2016-10-27-09-29-55.txt << anyone has any idea why would this happen and how to fix it?08:42
EriC^^liuxg: looks clean as a whistle08:42
liuxgEriC^^, yeah, it looks pretty good :)08:42
xsdfdfsadoes unity depend on compiz ? and what is the package name for it...08:50
xsdfdfsais it part of a gnome package08:51
EriC^^xsdfdfsa: yes it does08:51
EriC^^the package name is compiz08:51
xsdfdfsaI meant the package name for unity08:51
EriC^^ubuntu-desktop08:52
EriC^^that's whole metapackage08:52
Clicheehelllllooooo my american friends09:06
bazhangubuntu support question Clichee ?09:07
Clicheeno not really09:07
ClicheeI'm here to chat with my american friends09:07
bazhangchatter in #ubuntu-offtopic Clichee09:07
Clicheek09:08
Clicheehow do i get into #ubuntu-offtopic09:09
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hateball!ot | Clichee09:09
ubottuClichee: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:09
linociscohi slow shutdown /restart is really annoying. I tried almost all way09:18
RatchetTheGamerHey guys what's the system requirements?09:30
kicksledRatchetTheGamer: recommended sys requirements are listed at download page: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop09:31
OerHekssure ubuntu runs on the fresh surface pro09:32
FiskfishdanHey, Anybody good with Grub?09:32
FiskfishdanGot a problem on my computer saying ... GRUB Loading. Then it reboots, continuously09:32
Fiskfishdanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23387463/09:33
EriC^^Fiskfishdan: try removing "quiet splash" from the kernel line and see what it says09:35
EriC^^GRUB Loading?09:36
FiskfishdanI'll try that now EriC^^09:37
FiskfishdanYeah Just says "GRUB Loading." Then reboots09:38
EriC^^Fiskfishdan: are you in the live session right now?09:38
FiskfishdanUsing a USB Live BootCD09:39
EriC^^Fiskfishdan: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt09:39
EriC^^for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done09:39
EriC^^sudo chroot /mnt09:40
EriC^^grub-install --recheck /dev/sda && update-grub09:40
sonu_nkHi EriC^^ Hi , i just installed , i did this  sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin  but now i cant see my phpmyadmin when i am trying myip/phpmyadmin .. why ? any thing which i need to do ?09:42
FiskfishdanOk, I've just done that. Should I remove quiet and then reboot?09:43
EriC^^Fiskfishdan: yeah type exit09:43
EriC^^then reboot and hold shift to get grub and remove quiet09:43
EriC^^sonu_nk: did you restart the server?09:44
EriC^^sudo service apache2 restart09:44
sonu_nkEriC^^, yes09:44
EriC^^maybe you need to enable something, /join #ubuntu-server09:44
sonu_nki m on ubuntu 16 so did this sudo systemctl restart apache2 EriC^^09:45
Netekok so09:46
ppfsonu_nk: what happens if you browse to phpmyadmin09:47
RatchetTheGamerHey guys might be the wrong irc but what are the system requirements for lubuntu?09:47
MattiasI get this from nginx-common (which prevents other apps from installing): dpkg: error processing nginx-common (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 109:47
FiskfishdanEriC^^: I love you. I've been struggling for two days to fix this. You knew the fix instantly!09:47
linociscohi slow shutdown /restart is really annoying. I tried almost all way09:47
FiskfishdanIt only bloody works now!09:48
MattiasIs there a way to get more info of that error? This is Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS09:48
EriC^^Fiskfishdan: haha, no problem :D09:48
OerHeksRatchetTheGamer, you have been answered before, scroll back?09:48
MattiasI can't install nginx, and I can't remove the programs which are stuck in limbo (libnginx*)09:48
ppflinocisco: got any details for us?09:49
linociscoppf, whenever I shut down my laptop or reboot, it took so longer than 5 -10 mins09:50
Andy15356H09:50
RatchetTheGamerThat's ubuntu, there's not much activity on the lubuntu, can't find that on the website09:50
ppflinocisco: wheree does it hang,. the ubuntu logo?09:50
Andy15356Hi09:50
linociscoppf, yes09:50
Andy15356Should I install Ubuntu?09:51
ppfhit escape09:51
ppfAndy15356: most definitely!!09:51
Andy15356I have an iPhone I don't think it is compatible with Ubuntu09:51
linociscoppf, yes. I did. only two lines. I cant'remember09:51
kicksledRatchetTheGamer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#System_Requirements09:51
ppflinocisco: journalctl -b -109:51
linociscoppf, yes. I did. only two lines. I cant'remember. Repeating these lines.09:51
Andy15356Maybe I should stick with windoze09:51
FinalXhi - Ubuntu 12.04.5 is marked EOS per april next year - but there's no specific date; does anyone know if that'll be april 1, april 30 or somewhere in between? getting customers to migrate their stuff since they still haven't bothered, but I'd like to see how much time precisely we'd have to spare :P09:51
linociscoppf, Specifying boot ID has no effect, no persistent journal was found09:52
RatchetTheGamerThanks09:52
ppfokay, edit /etc/systemd/journald.conf, set Storage to persistent09:52
ppfthen it'll keep your boot logs around09:52
Andy15356Ew Ubuntu uses systemd?09:52
ppfAndy15356: of course09:53
Andy15356rc.d is good09:53
ppfno it isn't09:53
FinalXyeah, and upstart-sysv as alternative appears to be russian roulette for one of my containers at the moment09:53
linociscoppf, should I remove # ?09:53
ppflinocisco: yes, and set it to persistent09:53
linociscoppf, i did, and then?09:54
linociscoppf, anything or command to update changes?09:54
ppflinocisco: you'll probably need to do at least one reboot09:54
ppfsec09:55
linociscoppf, ya09:55
ppfsudo systemctl restart systemd-journal09:55
ppfor even better09:55
ppfsystemctl force-reload systemd-journal09:55
linociscoppf, Failed to try-reload-or-restart systemd-journal.service: Unit systemd-journal.service not found.09:56
ppfyeah, my bad, the service is named systemd-journald09:57
ppfsudo systemctl force-reload systemd-journald09:57
jezzz_/w/wi10:00
jezzz_dsa10:00
jezzz_dsa10:00
FiskfishdanI only really joined for help with the GRUB, Thank you very much EriC^^ for keeping the Ubuntu Community great. Keep up the good work everybody10:05
FiskfishdanBye10:05
bloopityi've got a super newb question ^_^10:05
bloopityi can't find a file that launches a program i have installed (vim). i'm new to linux, and i've spent a solid hour + looking for this thing. any suggestions?10:14
Algebrwhere can I find the proper deb entries for Xenial for apt's source.list?10:14
Algebrbloopity: you got to the terminal and type vim10:15
bloopitybahaha thank you!10:15
linociscoppf, Failed to try-reload-or-restart systemd-journal.service: Unit systemd-journal.service not found.10:17
kicksledAlgebr: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/configuration.html10:18
RatchetTheGamerWill ubuntu work on a 1.8ghz CPU?10:18
Algebrkicksled: perfect, thanks10:20
kicksledRatchetTheGamer: yeah. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements10:21
FireStrikerHey guys what's the main difference between 16.04 and 16.1010:22
blueray52anybody tell me please witch Chanel I use for Kali linux10:23
RatchetTheGamerOk10:23
blueray52join #kali10:24
blueray52clear10:25
msevworkin this channel there is more traffic when people log on and log off than chats haha10:26
msevwork:D10:26
RatchetTheGamerDidn't know because on the download page it says 2.0ghz10:27
kicksledRatchetTheGamer: yeah, recommended specs and minimum specs are different things10:37
ppflinocisco: ?10:44
linociscoppf, yes10:44
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ppfsuccess?10:45
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CtrlCCan a user running a vpn affect ssh connections to it? Can I normally ssh to it?10:51
linxehRatchetTheGamer: if you experience performance problems, you can always install a more lightweight desktop environment (eg lxde as used by lubuntu - all the packages are there in the repositories). I run Ubuntu, in a VM, on a Gigabyte brix with a 1.8GHz CPU and it's fine (I also had one as a full blown development desktop for a while doing C++ audio work, and that was fine too)10:59
mikubuntuso i have this hp laptop that several months ago went black screen of death on me immediately upon installing updates. i managed to get it online with a live session, and am looking for some help diagnosing the problem and rescueing the system. someone said maybe the 'nomodeset' was broken?11:02
mikubuntups -- running lubuntu 14.04 if i'm not mistaken11:03
filosofiehi question : after installing the eggdrop package on ubuntu 16.04, how to I compile please ?how do i use the package ?11:06
filosofieBuilding dependency tree11:06
filosofieReading state information... Done11:06
filosofieeggdrop is already the newest version (1.6.21-4).11:06
Ben64filosofie: you don't compile, it's already ready to use11:09
filosofie?11:09
filosofiehow do i use it ?11:09
filosofie./configure ?11:09
filosofieor eggdrop ~/lsls.conf ?11:09
filosofieah got it11:09
filosofiethanks11:09
Mathisenfilosofie, 1.6 is old btw... get 1.8 https://github.com/eggheads/eggdrop11:10
Ben64the one in the ubuntu repository is the only supported one here though11:11
Mathisenbut the 1.6 is from 2011 security warning alert11:12
filosofieanyway lots of tcl errors and crap11:13
filosofie:||11:13
Mathisenfilosofie, post the error to a pastebin11:17
meldronhow do I add a ipv6 gateway? shouldnt it be assigned by my routers dhcp service?11:22
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barqHow can I disable MTP on 16.04?11:27
mikubuntuso i have this hp laptop that several months ago went black screen of death on me immediately upon installing updates. i managed to get it online with a live session, and am looking for some help diagnosing the problem and rescueing the system. someone said maybe the 'nomodeset' was broken?11:27
mikubuntups -- running lubuntu 14.04 if i'm not mistaken11:27
barqOr how to get it working properly?11:31
BluesKajHiyas all11:32
xeici462how i can set airvpn application to unity launcher, when i try to pin it to unity after restart its gone11:37
glynnevening all11:38
mikubuntueeeeelp, plz --- so i have this hp laptop that several months ago went black screen of death on me immediately upon installing updates. i managed to get it online with a live session, and am looking for some help diagnosing the problem and rescueing the system. someone said maybe the 'nomodeset' was broken?11:40
RatchetTheGamer 11:57
RatchetTheGamerlinxeh: hey is it easy to move from ubuntu to lubuntu?11:58
for{}filosofie, are u romanian?11:59
for{}man just another de11:59
janat08is there a default command line utility for converting yaml to json12:00
janat08what i just installed "needs yaml module, and heres a list of what is installed though"12:00
janat08nm12:02
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steelnwoolhi. I'm trying to do a rather simple find/chmod command and it's giving me a screwey error that i don't quite get.12:08
EriC^^paste it12:08
steelnwoolfind ./concerts -type d -exec chmod 0755  {} \; -- gives me "chmod: cannot access ‘’: No such file or directory"12:08
EriC^^try -exec echo chmod ...12:09
steelnwoolthere is one file in the ./concerts directory. it's not special in any way. no apostrophes or single quotes.12:09
steelnwoolokay.12:09
steelnwool"chmod 0755"12:09
steelnwoolso it's operating on a null string for some reason...12:09
steelnwoolodd.12:09
steelnwoolweird. i changed it to find concerts/ -type f blah blah and it works.12:10
steelnwooli guess find doesn't like ./12:10
EriC^^yeah12:10
EriC^^you wanted to change files?12:10
akiksteelnwool: or use "{}"12:10
steelnwoolakik: ?12:11
WulfI would like to start a live linux from network (PXE) in a way that I can unplug the ethernet cable after it's booted. That means I cannot use things like "root over nfs" or similar. The to-be-booted computer has plenty of RAM though. Any hints?12:11
steelnwoolEriC^^: Yeah, I want to make sure all directories are 755 and all files are 64412:11
steelnwoolhrmm. it's still behaving weird if i go up a directory. THer has got to be a weird dir somewhere throwing things off.12:12
RatchetTheGamerIs it easy to switch from ubuntu to lubuntu?12:12
WulfRatchetTheGamer: yes12:12
RatchetTheGamerOk12:12
mikubuntueeeeelp, plz --- so i have this hp laptop that several months ago went black screen of death on me immediately upon installing updates. i managed to get it online with a live session, and am looking for some help diagnosing the problem and rescueing the system. someone said maybe the 'nomodeset' was broken?12:13
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OerHeksWulf, pxe boot to ramdisk, perhaps? http://askubuntu.com/questions/334529/pxe-booting-ubuntu-into-a-ramdisk12:13
FireStrikerOh that's cool didn't know you could do that12:13
WulfOerHeks: huh.. "memdisk from syslinux-common". Never seen it. I'll take a look, thank you!12:14
bob28946439Hey, hopefully someone can help me with this, pretty new to ubuntu. Set up Ubuntu 14.04 on my Laptop, ran alright. However now afteri Login i get a black screen. Can still start a guestsession without problems12:14
OerHekshttp://askubuntu.com/questions/334529/pxe-booting-ubuntu-into-a-ramdisk12:14
OerHeksoops12:15
mikubuntui see conflicting instructions on editing grub for nomodeset -- in one, it says to put nomodeset in front of quiet splash "nomodeset quiet splash" and in another says put it after "quiet splash nomodeset" -- does it matter?12:15
mikubuntucan i edit the underlying grub from within a live session?12:15
hateballmikubuntu: It does not matter12:15
akiksteelnwool: try using find with -print0 and "{}"12:16
hateballmikubuntu: Are you trying to edit grub on an already installed Ubuntu, or on the live media?12:16
mikubuntuhateball can i edit grub from within a live session? so that i can stay online here if i need help?12:16
mikubuntuhateball: on existing system under the live session12:16
hateballmikubuntu: well sure, but that change will be overwritten by kernel updates unless you make it permanent in /etc/default/grub12:17
steelnwoolfound the issue. i was in fish, not bash.12:17
hateballmikubuntu: and most likely you will only want to use nomodeset to boot once to install proprietary drivers, no?12:18
mikubuntuhateball: i have black screen of death that happened immediately on software update several mos ago but i been so busy i didn't get to it. now i have emergency because my other box has failing hdd12:18
mikubuntuhateball: so that's my question exactly -- can i edit /etc/default/grub from within the live session?12:19
hateballmikubuntu: well you will want to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg in that case, as that contains the actual boot entries used12:19
hateballmikubuntu: /etc/default/grub is used to create new entries, so unless nomodeset is there, on the next kernel update the option will be gone12:20
mikubuntuhateball: so still don't know if you're saying i could do this in a term in a live session?12:21
wafflejockmikubuntu, instructions here on mounting things and chroot for making the changes12:23
wafflejockmikubuntu, http://askubuntu.com/questions/145241/how-do-i-run-update-grub-from-a-livecd12:23
mikubuntuwafflejock: lemme look it over thx12:23
hateballmikubuntu: yes you can, just mount your drive somewhere and edit the files12:24
hateballmikubuntu: but you can just as well hold left shift and go into grub menu on a normal boot, and add the entry temporarily12:24
mikubuntuhateball: i don't understand "temporarily" why is this temporary, and what action is going to make it un-temporary?12:27
mikubuntuhateball: does temporary mean it will only persist in one session?12:27
juanonymoushey im using ubuntu 12.04 lst12:27
juanonymousis there a way to upgdare my os and how?12:28
juanonymoushehehe12:28
juanonymoussorry12:28
mikubuntuhateball: and i'm only assuming that this is the problem causing the black screen12:28
Amm0nmikubuntu, yes one session, to test if it's a problem with nomodeset12:28
hateballmikubuntu: yes, adding the option to grub during boot will be for that session only12:29
hateballmikubuntu: which is nice for testing, rather than editing the persistent config file with something that might break things further12:29
mikubuntuhateball: ooooh, i see what you mean. so, if it fixes it, then i should edit the persistent file? (which prolly means coming back here for help with that)12:31
hateballmikubuntu: Yes12:33
mikubuntuhateball: so now i'm not really sure i understand how to get to the grub screen if i have black screen?12:33
hateballmikubuntu: when the machine boots, hold/hammer left shift to get into grub menu12:33
hateballmikubuntu: the "black screen" happens after all that has loaded12:33
mikubuntuhateball: ok, then just "e" and enter "nomodeset" before or after the "quiet splash"? do the prompts appear as to how to save/exit?12:34
hateballmikubuntu: yes, I think it is F10 to continue boot after edit or so, it should say onscreen12:36
BluesKajprobly has the login set to auto-login12:36
melti have an old /etc/init.d script that i want to run as part of the boot on ubuntu16.10 before X loads.. is there an easy way to do this?12:37
FireStrikerX?12:37
mikubuntuhateball: and just to recap -- to get into the grub i hammer shift immediately on power up?12:40
mikubuntuhateball: this whole thing makes me nervous12:41
wafflejockmikubuntu, no worries really it's a temporary change for that boot12:41
wafflejockmikubuntu, after you edit pretty sure ctrl+x to boot but says it on screen12:41
RasmusWLu12:41
mikubuntuwafflejock: hateball signing off -- wish me luck12:42
FireStrikerCan I just use img burn to make a boot DVD?12:46
Amm0nmelt, you could write your own systemd .service file or use systemd-sysv-generator, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers and/or https://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/debugging-systemd-sysv-init-compat12:48
meltAmm0n: thank you for that, what do you think of making the upstart file in /etc/init and it just run my script? that would be the best and most "native" style solution?12:50
moojmelt: i believe you can also set the run order when doing sudo update-rc.d12:51
fosakwow chat room havent been in 1 of thease in many years12:51
FireStriker?12:52
moojie: update-rc.d 99 {runlevels} will probably set your script to very last12:52
Amm0nmelt, since 16.10 comes with systemd a .service file would be the proper way imho12:53
abhishekI am unsure my nvidia driver is correct I got it from http://paste.ubuntu.com/23388093/12:53
dellan001guys12:53
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abhishekI am getting some issues, which is a more latest one?12:54
dellan001can u help me with this error12:54
mikubuntuhateball: wafflejock so i edited grub twice, neither would it proceed through to boot ... arrrrgh12:54
dellan001package name not found12:55
moojdellan001: did you install the package?12:55
wafflejockmikubuntu, any sort of error or just hanging after you edit and hit the command to boot?12:55
BluesKajdellan001. which package?12:55
dellan001its the first time i install the ubuntu mate12:55
abhishekI get this "GPU at 0000:01:00.0 has fallen off the bus."12:56
abhishekWhich makes me concerned that the driver is wrong.12:56
abhishekany  ideas?12:56
dellan001BluesKaj. all of them12:56
mikubuntuwafflejock: ummmm, well it did go to a page of output that ended in something about kernel panic?12:56
mikubuntuwafflejock: but i have no tools to copy or paste it etc :(12:57
moojdellan001: did you mess with your .bashrc or something?12:57
wafflejockmikubuntu, just wondering are you planning to just use the laptop for recovery of data from the other HDD if so maybe doing so from the live session is an option12:57
FireStrikerHey guys to make a boot cd can I just use imgburn?12:57
dellan001nope i didint12:58
dellan001or maybe im just outdated12:58
meltAmm0n: Excellent, thank you for that info12:58
coolmadmaxmikubuntu, after you edit grub file did you run 'update-grub'12:58
BluesKajdellan001 which OS ?12:58
dellan001ubuntu MATE12:58
wafflejockcoolmadmax, so far was just editing in the grub editor I'm pretty sure12:58
BluesKajwhich version?12:58
abhishekhmm.... any ideas?12:58
dellan00116. something12:59
wafflejockdellan001, lsb_release -a12:59
dellan001wafflejock: at the terminal?12:59
wafflejockFireStriker, believe so, I used it but has been a few years12:59
wafflejockdellan001, yeah will show you version details13:00
FireStriker Ok thanks13:00
mikubuntuwafflejock: i want to use the laptop. coolmadmax after edit i just proceeded to f10 for boot as instructed -- nowhere to run update13:00
dellan00116.04 lts13:00
vladpif I switch from a 32bit to a 64bit installation, will there be better performance ? or doesn't matter.13:00
wafflejockmikubuntu, the update-grub is for when you actually edit the boot files in the case of editing a boot menu entry it just works for that one instance of booting13:01
mikubuntuwafflejock: if we could diagnose from the live session that would be great -- at least then i don't lose my connection to freenode13:01
Amm0nmelt, upstart is a dismissed ubuntu project, no need to learn this stuff anymore :)13:01
meltAmm0n: oh.....13:01
wafflejockdellan001, cool yeah that is latest have you done sudo apt update before trying to install or upgrade things? usually can install some things with what it already has in the apt cache but worth a shot13:02
mikubuntuwafflejock: but it appears that nomodeset not the problem?13:02
mikubuntuwafflejock: since i couldn't even get one boot session?13:02
PhilA #openstack-salt13:02
wafflejockmikubuntu, yeah so nomodeset just uses the vesa drivers which are like fallback basic video drivers in case the problem is some graphics driver issue13:02
dellan001wafflejock, not yet, im gonna try it13:02
mikubuntuwafflejock: so any idea what could be still causing the problem?13:04
wafflejockmikubuntu, the kernel panic you saw could be a variety of things so hard to say what to try looking at next I guess the /var/log/syslog http://askubuntu.com/questions/35722/what-is-kernel-panic13:04
Amm0nmikubuntu, do you remember if your latest upgrade went through completly?13:06
mikubuntuAmm0n: it's been several months, but all i remember is that after the upgrade i had the black screen13:07
BluesKajmikubuntu, how far do you get after grub , are you able to drop to a vt/tty, ctl+alt+F1-F6 ? and login from there, then do sudo systemctl start sddm13:07
BluesKajor lightdm13:07
rocket__hi13:07
dellan001wafflejock, its installing already, thanks :)13:08
wafflejockBluesKaj, 14.04 was still upstart I think no ?13:08
wafflejockdellan001, ah cool no problem13:08
rocket__i use virtual box and it works fine but i have a big lag on the keyboard,any idea?13:08
BluesKajoh 14.04 , sorry my mistake, wafflejock ...no systemd there :-)13:08
BluesKajthat's why I still have 14.04 on another partition13:09
mikubuntuBluesKaj: whooooa -- lol. sounds way over my payscale.13:09
wafflejockrocket__, did you install the virtual box guest additions and try fiddling with display hardware acceleration options in virtual box13:09
Amm0nmikubuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery try the Update Failure part13:10
rocket__wafflejock, sure13:10
rocket__i can try again installing it13:10
mikubuntuAmm0n: looking13:10
wafflejockrocket__, usually I have to turn those on before the system acts snappy at all and needs a reboot after the guest additions installation13:11
rocket__i did that all already13:11
rocket__3d accl13:11
rocket__enought ram all13:11
wafflejockrocket__, is the animation and all smooth just the keyboard input lags?13:11
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rocket__just keyboard13:11
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BluesKajmikubuntu, vt/tty is just shell, vt=virtual terminal that takes the same commands as thre regular terminal, but without the desktop enabled13:12
wafflejockrocket__, would try to watch top in the background while typing other stuff or maybe try playing with xev to see input response13:12
wafflejockrocket__, can't say I've had that though where just the keyboard is slow usually it's overall system responsiveness is good or bad13:12
mikubuntuAmm0n: looking at that page i realize that i may have the secondary problem of not being sure i remember my password13:14
wafflejockmikubuntu, how critical is the data on the laptop, you may want to just nuke it from orbit, pave and reinstall :)13:14
wafflejockmikubuntu, with the kernel panic it may be a memory or other hardware failure but a clean install would at least get you past some of the initial bumps here if there isn't anything important on there anyhow13:15
FireStrikerGuys which version is better?13:16
wafflejockmikubuntu, you can also try booting with some older kernels if you see them in the advanced boot options when in grub, but just not sure how much effort fixing it's worth putting into trying to fix that system13:16
vladpI have xubuntu 32bit installed but want to switch to 64bit on the same system... will I have better performance or shouldn't bother ?13:16
rocket__hi now it works fine13:17
rocket__wafflejock, it didnt install the guest there was some error13:17
wafflejockrocket__, what change?13:17
wafflejockah okay13:17
rocket__i installed it via apt13:17
wafflejockcool13:17
rocket__i didnt recognize it since the graphics was smooth, but probably because of the 107013:17
wafflejockheh just brute force it :)13:17
de-factohey guys just got new GPU R7 360 on radeon/radeonsi drivers in Xenial: kinda works, but why is chromium unable to display properly?13:18
Amm0nmikubuntu, you don't remember the pw?13:19
rocket__now i have earned a coffee, so i have ubuntu vm in ubuntu itself13:20
rocket__great13:20
rocket__i love a vm to setup my standard software, its easy to migrate13:21
dellan001guys after downloading flash player in software boutique, there is still no flash player in mozilla13:21
dellan001how to activate the flash player?13:21
rocket__dellan001, dont use flash13:21
dellan001rocket_ what is it?13:21
rocket__its depricated and a security risk13:21
OerHeksdellan001, restart your browser?13:21
mikubuntuAmm0n: wafflejock BluesKaj hateball i just want to say how much i appreciate all your help. i have to confess, for all the kids in the audience, that this problem is all my own doing. if i had backed up my files, i wouldn't be so concerned about saving this system, and instead i'd have installed a fresh system and been on my merry way.13:22
RatchetTheGamerHey I am a little confused on the versions, whats the difference with 16.10 and 16.04.1. And which is better?13:22
OerHeksrocket__, please, don't spread fud, flashplugin got securtity updates13:22
dellan001ok13:22
rocket__OerHeks, ok, but i still would not use it13:22
wafflejockRatchetTheGamer, 16.04 is LTS so will get security patches for longer13:22
rocket__look at the security history of flash13:22
rocket__its a desaster13:23
wafflejockRatchetTheGamer, 16.10 has a bit newer software but if you go with that will need to upgrade sooner13:23
RatchetTheGamerOk so for a nice stable and fairly i buggy experience go for LTS13:23
wafflejockRatchetTheGamer, Ubuntu releases every 6 months but new LTS every 2 years and LTS get support for 5 years, non LTS you need to do incremental upgrades every 6 months basically (maybe can jump version but I go LTS to LTS)13:23
RatchetTheGamerun13:24
wafflejockyea13:24
RatchetTheGamerOk I will download that13:24
RatchetTheGamerThanks13:24
wafflejockno prob13:24
linxehRatchetTheGamer: re: your earlier question about lubuntu - yes, you can switch at any time just by changing the default desktop you launch (eg installing the lubuntu-desktop package onto vanilla ubuntu gives you lubuntu, with lxde etc).13:24
RatchetTheGamerOk13:25
linxehRatchetTheGamer: also, you can choose to upgrade from 16.04LTS to 16.10 if you want to later13:25
Amm0nmikubuntu, shit happens.. what problems do you have with the link i gave you?13:28
dellan001guys have you tried debian jessie?13:28
OerHeksdellan001, offtopic here, try #debian13:28
dellan001ok ok13:28
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vladpWill there be a performance boost when switching from a 32bit to a 64bit installation on the same hardware ?13:30
FireStrikerHow much ram do you have?13:32
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mikubuntuAmm0n: most of it is just over my head. once it gets complicated, i'm lost.13:32
OerHeksvladp, not that big, you just got more and larger registers and cpu functions.13:32
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mikubuntuAmm0n: and stupid little things. right now if i could figure out how to delete some files to get under 15gb stick size i have,  i could backup, and do a fresh install13:33
mikubuntuAmm0n: and assign a new pwd13:34
meltmy ubuntu 16.10  is using what looks like both systemd and upstart?13:34
de-factois there something similar to nvidia-settings for the radeon/radeonsi driver stack?13:34
I-am-GrootHello... I am back eith a problem that has prevented me from installing ubuntu on a sony vaio laptop.13:35
I-am-GrootWhenever i try to install ubuntu from a thumbdrive, i get a black screen13:35
hateballI-am-Groot: have you used the kernel parameter "nomodeset" ?13:36
vladpFireStriker: 4gb13:36
I-am-GrootSo i did a little research and deleted qyiet splash from the boot parameters or whatever its called..13:36
vladpOerHeks: so the slight lagging when browsing with 50 tabs open won't improve for example ?13:36
OerHeksvladp, 50 tabs .. that means your swap is working overtime .. no, no improvement.13:37
vladpOerHeks: can I make the swipe bigger and improve it that way ?13:37
vladpor just get a newer processor13:37
Southern_Gentlemincrease memory13:38
I-am-GrootDoing that still didnt help as the installation kept getting stuck. So i added vga=771 and nomodeset. Then i was able to move on to this part where i get an error saying unable to mount squash.fs something.13:38
Southern_Gentlemand increase swap13:38
hateballvladp: 50 tabs by itself doesnt really say anything. Check if you're running out of CPU or memory13:38
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hateballGuessing isnt very useful13:38
I-am-GrootI have tried everything but i still cant get past that error13:38
OerHeksmaybe a larger swap helps, i think you need to be realistic with that many tabs open13:38
I-am-GrootAny help?13:39
skinuxAre there special drivers required for Ubuntu to see portable DVD drives?13:40
Amm0nI-am-Groot, maybe it's an UEFI problem, try to boot it in BIOS legacy mode13:40
hateballskinux: in general, no13:41
I-am-GrootAmm0n, i have tried but bios doesn't seem to have an UEFI option13:41
skinuxHmm. Ubuntu refuses to see the one I've borrowed.13:41
hateballskinux: Is it connected over USB?13:41
skinuxIt's an LG, Slim Portable  Bluray DVD Writer13:42
skinuxYes13:42
Amm0nI-am-Groot, is it new hardware?13:42
I-am-GrootNope...its an old laptop. Cpu is i3 and has 4GB ram with 500Gb HDD13:43
loahello! somebody faced problem, when graphics randomly freeze for few seconds under i5 2300 with integrated graphics?13:44
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Amm0nI-am-Groot, did you verify the integrity of your downloaded iso? does it boot on other hardware?13:45
I-am-GrootAmmOn: Yes i used that's iso on my Latitude E6420.13:46
I-am-GrootAmm0n: surprisingly it just booted right now13:47
I-am-GrootDont know how13:47
carlyhi guys can someone help me out with a terminal command issue? I'm real new and have no clue what this text means13:47
carlyi don't want to flood the channel13:47
I-am-GrootBut the screen is all messed up13:47
carlyanyone that feels like helping out, let me know!13:47
carlypp13:48
carlyppf: you there?13:48
elias_acarly: Ask the question, please.13:48
carlyokay so i ran a command to reduce the swapiness because i've had to start my entire system back up - the update wiped everything from the computer and reinstalled it.13:49
carlyi ran the command and text opened this instead of the swapiness settings13:49
carly# # /etc/sysctl.conf - Configuration file for setting system variables # See /etc/sysctl.d/ for additional system variables. # See sysctl.conf (5) for information. #  #kernel.domainname = example.com  # Uncomment the following to stop low-level messages on console #kernel.printk = 3 4 1 3  ##############################################################3 # Functions previously found in netbase #  # Uncomment the next two lines to enable S13:49
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carlyanyone know what the hell all of that means13:50
carlythats not even all of it but it definitely isn't the same stuff as it was before13:50
wafflejockmelt, believe we do currently have both https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers13:52
wafflejockcarly, what command did you run?13:53
Picicarly: what command did you run?13:53
carly gksudo leafpad /etc/sysctl.conf13:53
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Amm0nI-am-Groot, the error before was something like in here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SquashfsErrors  ?13:54
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carlyhas a bunch of uncomment options? I have no clue what to do with this13:54
carlyif i use that paste bin will it let me paste the entire text for you guys to see?13:54
Picicarly: What did you expect to get?13:55
meltwafflejock: yes, that's where i read it13:55
meltwafflejock: i guess i need a lot of triple if then :)13:56
carlyPici: sorry i ran cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness and then the gksudo13:56
carlyand i'm not getting swapiness options popping up13:56
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vladphateball: it's in chrome though and the tabs are suspended (low memory usage).13:57
vladphateball: memory usage is always high, swap usage is ALWAYS low13:57
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carlyalso, whatsup with the wireless internet turning off when it feels like it? Anyone have anything to remedy that?13:57
Picicarly: The documentation says to add the vm.swappiness setting if it doesn't already exist.13:58
Srikantacan not install through synaptic package manager13:58
carlyhow should i do that? It shows me that the swapiness is at 60 i wanted to change that to 1013:58
Picicarly: so add a line at the bottom that says vm.swappiness=1014:00
carlyPici: of the text right?14:00
Picicarly: go to the bottom of the file you have open (/etc/sysctl.conf) press enter, and add that line.14:00
carlyshould i put # before it?14:01
Southern_Gentlem#==comment14:02
Southern_Gentlemso no14:02
carlySouthern_Gentlem: thank you14:02
carlyone more question guys14:03
carly(gksudo:5231): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme directory  imported-Humanity/192 of theme Lubuntu has no size field14:03
carlyany issue with that?14:03
carlyor is that normal14:03
PiciIts a warning, ignore it.14:04
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I-am-GrootSo i have been able to get ubuntu to boot up to the live menu. Is a laptop with an i3 processor and 4gb of RAM not equipped to run ubuntu? As the ui is lagging right now14:07
carly_sorry i'm back!14:08
wafflejockI-am-Groot, should be fine but gpu might not be great in which case you may want a lighter desktop environment like xubuntu or lubuntu have14:08
carly_damn wireless internet14:08
protnhey folks14:08
protnis kmail as good as outlook?14:08
wafflejockprotn, I thought kmail was okay personally have become sort of a fan of thunderbird though it can be resource intensive14:08
protnthunderbird is resource intensive?14:09
protnor kmail?14:09
I-am-GrootWafflejock: okay..how do i even check the gpu memory type and size on the live menu?14:09
wafflejockprotn, yeah it can eat up a lot of RAM over time sometimes I have crazy info in my mail too cause of cron jobs e-mailing me big logs14:09
wafflejockI-am-Groot, did you go in to try ubuntu yet?14:10
protnwafflejock: kmail seems modest resources wise14:10
protnwhich is beautiful14:10
wafflejockI-am-Groot, in there you can open a terminal then type, lshw -C display to get graphics details14:11
vfwprotn: Most of us would say that anything is better than outlook, but yes outlook has features that kmail would not, stuff that you may miss.  I have not used an email client in *years*, I find the web-based email servers do all I need.14:11
I-am-GrootOkay wafflejock14:11
carly_also - my archive manager isn't working. i've run all udpates14:11
carly_anyone know why?14:11
Ed_VortexI-am-Groot: i'm running an i5 w/4gb ram with np14:12
vfwprotn: I should also say that I've not used kmail in a long time either, so it may have a lot of features that I'm not aware of.14:12
protncarly_: archive managed for what?14:12
wafflejockI-am-Groot, you can also check out "top" in the terminal to see processes ordered by cpu usage and other cpu info or install htop and run that gives a little nicer display, can check free -m, to see how much RAM is used but my guess is low graphics performance is just lower end GPU14:12
protninstalling kmail14:12
protnwho here used diffcompare gui ?14:12
carly_protn: archive manager for installing appimage extracting etc14:12
I-am-GrootWafflelock: okay14:12
wafflejockproblem is i3/i5/i7 doesn't tell you a ton, lots of range in those classes and 7 generations, I have an i7 from 2008 :)14:12
protncarly_: dunno works here14:12
protntry to purge it and reinstall?14:13
carly_protn: yep, good idea. it's not even opening help or anything14:13
I-am-GrootWafflelock: its a Core Processor integrated Graphics controller14:13
I-am-GrootIntel14:14
I-am-GrootWidth: 64 bits14:14
I-am-GrootClock: 33mhz14:14
vfwI-am-Groot: I like xubuntu-desktop best.  To me, a good Desktop Environment is one that is efficient and stays out of your way and makes it easy to get to your applications and xubuntu-desktop does it for me.14:15
wafflejockI-am-Groot, pretty sure RAM isn't the problem but go ahead and check free -m, will show RAM free/usage in megabytes14:16
protnhttps://www.kde.org/applications/office/kontact/14:16
protnlooks nice14:16
mikubuntui want to delete files because there are 17.6 gb, and i only have a 15gb stick for backup. but when i try to delete them i get permission denied.14:16
I-am-GrootVfw: Oooh okay... I dont have a stable internet connection for downloading another iso ATM14:16
wafflejockI-am-Groot, keep in mind too things will launch slower in the live environment than when it's actually installed, is it slow in terms of graphics or what exactly?14:16
vfwI-am-Groot: ... and part of being efficient is resource friendly, in my opinion.14:17
protnwhich GUI diff software do you use if any?14:17
Amm0nprotn, meld14:17
I-am-GrootWafflelock: free ram is 2256 and yes... Its only slow in graphics14:17
protnAmm0n: apart meld is there more ?14:18
protn:D14:18
protnmeld kinda got weird name14:18
vfwI-am-Groot: lubuntu-desktop is even more resource friendly than xubuntu-desktop but I just don't like it as much.14:19
wafflejockI-am-Groot, my laptop is a somewhat newer i7 think from 4 years ago has Intel HD4000 graphics chipset and handled it okay, not super fluid but not choppy14:19
Amm0nprotn, http://alternativeto.net/software/meld/?platform=linux14:19
wafflejockI-am-Groot, if your integrated graphics is at least as good as the HD4000 series it should be fine I would think but if you want something that is more responsive definitely try out xubuntu/lubuntu they are both much snappier but lose some gradients/transparent blends14:20
protnAmm0n: ty I got beyond compare14:22
I-am-GrootI do have Lubuntu but i dont like yhe ui it offers. Also when i tried installing it, i got some pixilated ui14:22
protnI also installed kmail on lubuntu it does not work14:22
protn:P14:22
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vfwprotn: What version of ubuntu are you using?14:25
wafflejockI-am-Groot, you may also want to check out Gnome3 (Ubuntu Gnome) or KDE (Kubuntu) installations, in my experience Gnome feels a little faster than Unity but still isn't light, KDE has typically been a little heavier feeling (once I get in and add 100 widgets) but haven't tried the latest14:25
Amm0nI-am-Groot, you said something about squashfs erros before, did you read the link i pasted?14:27
wafflejockI-am-Groot, actually Ubuntu Mate is pretty nice too if you liked/tried Gnome2 it's basically a new version of that14:27
I-am-GrootWafflejock: i am going to complete tge installation and see if it still remaims slow. If it does, i might have to swith to xubuntu then14:27
Kangaroooi have small laptp with 1gb ram and lscpu shows x32_64  should i put 64 or 32 bit ubuntu , actually putting lubuntu14:27
Kangarooo8gb hdd14:27
Kangaroooits ssd hdd14:27
ikoniaKangarooo: what ar eyou going to do with it ?14:28
I-am-GrootAmm0n: sorry...i didnt see the link. But i think hybernating the laptop whiles in windows allowed me to get past that. I dont know why but that was the only thing i did differently14:29
Kangarooo@ikonia just whats possible- web. its slow one with 1gb ram and atom cpu. now looking for advice to put 32 or 64 bit14:29
wahyubackboxtest14:30
Kangarooo8 gb ssd hdd14:30
ikoniaKangarooo: 32bit, but it's still going to be slow14:30
Kangaroooso when ram less then 4gb then 32 bit? @ikonia14:30
I-am-GrootDuring installation of ubuntu, i keep seeing failed to disable graphics turbo in the mini terminal output14:30
vfwprotn: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade14:30
ikoniaKangarooo: not really, that was the old rule, but you're on a really pooor system, so I'd take any additional issue of it14:31
ikoniaKangarooo: you'll be fine with 64bit, but  if you're struggling fall back to 32birt14:31
ikoniabit14:31
Kangarooo@ikonia thx. so 32 will be faster is what you recoomend to keep in mind?14:31
wafflejockKangarooo, would mostly be concerned about the HDD space, if it's strictly web browsing maybe okay but really can't install anything :|14:32
Amm0nI-am-Groot, windows 10?14:32
I-am-GrootAmm0n, windows 8.014:33
wafflejockKangarooo, https://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/requirements/14:33
Kangarooo@wafflejack so far 64 bit by accident installed and its uses 3,1 gb fresh install. seems to be a bit faster then 14.04lts 32bit. i have multiboot usb with 32 and 64 so i can remake on best one.14:33
furkan_hi14:33
wafflejockKangarooo, in terms of HDD space it shouldn't make any difference I don't think in terms of 64-bit vs 32-bit but think 64-bit does use a bit more RAM in some cases, usually not a big concern but xubuntu says 6.1GB there surprised it's just 3.1 so far you do minimal?14:35
AndroUsertest14:36
Amm0nI-am-Groot, maybe thats the problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/145902/unable-to-mount-windows-ntfs-filesystem-due-to-hibernation14:36
AndroUser..14:37
Kangarooo@wafflejock im using lubuntu since its lighter and faster then xubuntu. both are lighter then ubuntu and much responsive. ok then i remake 32 bit to save ram.14:37
I-am-GrootAmm0n: but during the time i had those mount errors, the system was actually off and wasnt hibernated. But now that i hibernated is when i have been able to bypass thoses errors14:37
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Kangarooohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu14:38
wafflejockKangarooo, ah sorry thought you said xubuntu earlier just got mixed up, still even with browser cache building up could eat up that space, would be good to get a slightly larger driver if possible think 20GB at least is much more manageable then can have some swap too if needed14:40
wafflejockKangarooo, can certainly use it as is but lots of sites/browsers tend to also be resource hogs (especially RAM intensive)14:40
Amm0nI-am-Groot, all i know is newer win versions do strange things with partitions by default for hibernate and i needed to disable some stuff in windows.. read the links i gave you14:41
Kangarooo@wafflejock so then 32 better to save or 64 will work better with huge sites?14:41
I-am-GrootOkay...thanks Amm0n14:41
wafflejockKangarooo, generally speaking 32-bit is going to be better for systems with very little RAM to spare but you can record your results from free -m in your 64bit system and see what the difference is in 32-bit14:43
wafflejockKangarooo, http://askubuntu.com/questions/7034/what-are-the-differences-between-32-bit-and-64-bit-and-which-should-i-choose/70551#7055114:43
wafflejockKangarooo, 64-bit can do better job at handling very large numbers or very high precision things but uses extra bits for that precision/length for things that in many cases may not use it14:44
younderwafflejock, In practice approx 12 % increase performance, 30 % increase memory use.14:47
wafflejockKangarooo, for example 32-bit will stop being able to count seconds since Jan 1 1970 (UNIX epoch time) in 2038 but with 64-bit we can count until after the sun burns out14:47
wafflejockyounder, interesting14:47
hareendrahi i was using my dlink wireles adaptor with no issues but i had to replace my mother borad14:48
hareendraeven after replacing it i am able to use my adaptor but its damn slow14:49
hareendraany help guys?14:49
hareendraearlier it used to list my model in lsusb14:51
hareendrabut now it does not14:51
hareendraBus 002 Device 002: ID 2001:3319 D-Link Corp.14:51
vfwhareendra: lspci14:51
hareendra00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express DRAM Controller (rev 02) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 02) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) 00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02) 00:1a.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 14:52
hareendrathis is not a pci card by the way14:53
hareendraits a usb adaptor14:53
vfwhareendra: That's ok14:53
vfwdoesn't matter14:53
vfwhareendra: iwconfig14:53
hareendralo        no wireless extensions.  wlan0     IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:"Home"  Nickname:"<WIFI@REALTEK>"           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.437 GHz  Access Point: 4C:8B:EF:98:15:3C              Bit Rate:300 Mb/s   Sensitivity:0/0             Retry:off   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off           Power Management:off           Link Quality=84/100  Signal level=56/100  Noise level=0/100           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  R14:54
vfwhareendra: iwconfig | pastebinit14:54
hareendraiwconfig | pastebinit14:55
hareendralo        no wireless extensions.  docker0   no wireless extensions.  The program 'pastebinit' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install pastebinit14:55
hareendraohh my bad14:56
hareendrapls give me a sec14:56
vfwhareendra: Looks like it's connected.14:56
hareendrait is connected14:56
hareendrabut its realy slow14:57
hareendravery slow14:57
vfwhareendra: Just didn't want you to get in trouble for pasting multi line text here in the channel, (pastebinit is an alternative).14:57
hareendrawe cant paste multiline here?14:57
hareendrasrry about that14:57
hareendraim a newbiew14:57
protonehi everybody. I have two ethernet cards and two network interfaces: enp5s0 and enpp4s014:57
protoneenp5s0 is connected to a router which is connected to internet (15 meters of distance)14:57
protoneenp4s0 is connected to a router which is not connected to internet (no distance)14:58
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protoneI want enp4s0 to take internet connection from enp5s0 so that I can use enp4s0 router as wifi repeater14:58
protoneis that possible?14:58
hareendrawhy it is not listing my device model in lsusb anymore?14:58
hareendraBus 002 Device 002: ID 2001:3319 D-Link Corp.14:58
Algebrapparently apt-get didn't get the right dependencies fixed?  libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-dev : Depends: libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18 (= 2.8.5+dfsg1-3) but 2.12.5-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 is installed.15:00
Algebrhow can I get the version that it wants?15:01
Algebrhow could the pacakge get out with unmet dependencies...15:01
Amm0nhareendra, did you try different usbports?15:01
hareendrayp already did15:03
hareendraAmm0n15:03
Amm0nwhat chipset does it use? check with lshw -C network15:03
SuperJonotroni put in a wrong command using blkid that seems to have broken my ubuntu installation, now blkid doesn't show /dev/sda1 which is the boot partition15:03
SuperJonotroni believe i messed up doing something with blkid -L, no sure if anybody knows how to fix the boot partition on /sda1 so I can get my system booted back up15:03
EriC^^SuperJonotron: can you boot a live usb?15:04
SuperJonotronyup, i'm in that now15:04
EriC^^SuperJonotron: type sudo parted -l15:04
EriC^^and pastebin the output15:04
hareendradescription: Wireless interface        physical id: 1        bus info: usb@2:6        logical name: wlan0        serial: 54:2a:a2:5b:38:7e        capabilities: ethernet physical wireless        configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rtl8192eu ip=192.168.1.4 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bgn15:04
hareendrahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23388639/15:05
vfwhareendra: http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_nkw=Realtek+RTL8188cus+USB+150M+150Mbps+802.11b%2Fg%2Fn+n+Wireless+WiFi+adapter+dongle&_id=111522517617&&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l265815:05
awehlerfunny15:05
hareendrathese are supported vfw?15:07
PiciAlgebr: What release of Ubuntu are you on?15:07
hareendrai just wish i cuould fic my dw-131 adaptor..15:08
vfwhareendra: http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_nkw=IOGEAR+GWU625+Wireless-N+USB+Adapter&_id=301221668620&&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l265815:08
SuperJonotronEriC^^,http://paste.ubuntu.com/23388655/15:08
AlgebrPici: Xenial15:09
Algebr1615:09
vfwhareendra: the Ioger GWU625 is very good15:09
Algebrjust installed it fine on jessie15:09
vfwIogear15:09
Algebrso surprised its broken in xenial15:09
hareendraanywy my adaptor was working15:10
hareendrathere has to be a way to fix this15:10
hareendrai re-installed drivers15:10
hareendrait connects byt very slow15:10
Amm0nhareendra, is there wifi onboard interfering?15:10
hareendrai used to use this with no issues15:10
hareendrano15:10
hareendrait  is not onboard15:10
hareendraexternal usb adaptor15:10
PiciAlgebr: Can you pastebin the output of apt-cache policy libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-dev ?15:11
Amm0nhareendra, i mean does your new motherboard come with wifi onboard15:11
hareendrano15:11
PiciAlgebr: Actually, for both packages: apt-cache policy libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-dev libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-1815:11
hareendrait does not15:11
hareendraits actually quite old motherborad15:12
hareendraim using ancient pc btw15:12
EriC^^SuperJonotron: looks like you formatted the efi partition?15:12
AlgebrPici: http://pastebin.com/ndw1ZqXz15:12
EriC^^SuperJonotron: type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt15:12
hareendrathis is how i installed driverts for my adaptoy15:12
eaglepsyxDid someone has experience with "tuleap" running on a debian/ubuntu system?15:12
PiciAlgebr: That says wily, not xenial.15:13
hareendrahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23388666/15:13
vincenzomlHi there, I just formatted my vaio pro 13 and removed windows, wanted a system without UEFI because it's easier to maintain. Then I installed ubuntu 16.10 and I've got ACPI errors everywhere15:13
Algebrhttp://pastebin.com/21BqWSss15:13
Algebroh darn, oops15:13
SuperJonotronEriC^^, done.  Did you mean that to be sda2 or 1?15:13
vincenzomlmay this be related to disabling uefi? I'm in serious trouble with this machine15:13
bk1984bglhello15:13
EriC^^SuperJonotron: 215:13
AlgebrPici: I can just replace all places of wiley with xenial in my source.list and be fine right?15:14
PiciAlgebr: Itlooks like you've installed the Xenial version manually for one of the packages, which is why things are broken.  Don't mix releases and don't use unsupported releases.15:14
Amm0nhareendra, it didn't work with the kernel driver too?15:14
EriC^^SuperJonotron: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done15:14
EriC^^SuperJonotron: then type sudo chroot /mnt15:14
vincenzomlmy system log is overflown with messages, loggers take 100% cpu and I'm scared a lot. If I use acpi=off things *seem* to work but power button doesn't, and after some time mouse is disabled15:14
EriC^^vincenzoml: what is it overflowed with?15:15
hareendra  <Amm0n> it works but really slow. And i don't quite understand kernal drivers and stuff. newbie :)15:15
SuperJonotronEric^^, done, now i'm sitting at root@ubuntu:/# terminal15:15
EriC^^SuperJonotron: type mount -a15:15
wafflejockvincenzoml, which logger in particular?15:15
vincenzomlEriC^^: ACPI Error: No handler or method for GPE nn, disabling event15:15
vincenzomlwafflejock: both rsyslogd and systemd-journal15:15
EriC^^vincenzoml: maybe you need to disable that interrupt or something?15:16
hareendraas some pos suggested i cloned the github repo make the driver and installed15:16
SuperJonotronEric^^, mount: can't find UUID=<uuid>15:16
hareendrawaorking like a charm15:16
Amm0nhareendra, in linux you don't install drivers, they come with the kernel and your dongle should have worked out of the box if it's supported15:16
vincenzomlEriC^^: hmm, how?15:16
EriC^^vincenzoml: did you try the acpi_osi="Windows xxxx" stuff?15:16
EriC^^SuperJonotron: try mount /dev/sda1 /boot/efi15:16
hareendrabut onece i replaced my mani borad it is very slow15:16
bk1984bglexit15:16
vincenzomlEriC^^: wafflejock: this machine ran ubuntu for something like 4 years, also not using UEFI, before it went to repair and they reinstalled windows.15:16
vincenzomlEriC^^: what is this "acpi_osi" stuff? Is it new?15:17
hareendra<Amm0n>15:17
hareendrawhat do we do with these commands15:17
vincenzomlEriC^^: I only have ubuntu now15:17
hareendrasudo make install15:17
hareendrasudo modprobe 8192eu15:17
wafflejockhareendra, make install compiles the module modprobe loads it15:17
SuperJonotronEriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23388684/15:17
EriC^^vincenzoml: try sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep Windows15:17
vfw2~2~2~15:18
EriC^^SuperJonotron: ok, let's format the efi partition15:18
hareendraok this worked for me like a charm15:18
EriC^^SuperJonotron: mkfs.fat /dev/sda115:18
hareendrabut after i replaced my mb it does not15:18
RFlemingGreetings!15:18
vincenzomlEriC^^: seems to list a number of windows versions :)15:18
hareendrai tried doing the same make make install and modprob15:18
SuperJonotronEriC^^, this going to lose existing data on the drive?15:18
hareendrawify connects15:18
hareendrabut realy slow15:19
wafflejockhareendra, problem is the people building/maintaining ubuntu didn't build the module so hasn't been tested with any released versions of ubuntu15:19
EriC^^vincenzoml: ok, grap the latest one and modify the kernel line to have acpi_osi="Windows 2014" or whatever is newest15:19
EriC^^SuperJonotron: no, just the efi partition15:19
wafflejockhareendra, anything in dmesg stand out? or try checking journalctl for errors but going to probably be hard to debug since not many people will be running that code most likely15:19
EriC^^SuperJonotron: if another os is using it, it wont boot anymore15:19
wafflejockhareendra, can try contacting the maintainer as well to see if they can help debug15:19
EriC^^SuperJonotron: you only have ubuntu though right?15:19
SuperJonotronEriC^^, nope, just ubuntu15:20
EriC^^SuperJonotron: ok run the command15:20
SuperJonotronEriC^^, done15:20
EriC^^then grap the UUID is spits out15:20
EriC^^and replace it in /etc/fstab next to /boot/efi15:20
hareendradmesg stand out?15:20
vfwhareendra: What version of Ubuntu are you on?15:20
hareendrapls tell me more15:20
EriC^^*grab15:20
hareendra14.0415:20
hareendraim on 14.0415:20
vfwWhat kernel?15:21
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SuperJonotronEriC^^, didn't spit out a UUID just: mkfs.fat 3.0.28 (2015-05-16)15:21
hareendraohh. any command to chk that?15:21
EriC^^SuperJonotron: oh, type blkid /dev/sda115:21
vfwhareendra: You might try a different kernel.15:21
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vfwhareendra: uname -a15:21
hareendraLinux Hareendra-Desktop 3.13.0-100-generic #147-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 18 16:48:51 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux15:21
vincenzomlEriC^^: didn't work :(15:22
vfwhareendra: uname -r is shorter.  But are you fully updated?15:22
SuperJonotronEriC^^, should I be using the UUID or the PARTUUID for fstab?15:22
hareendrays15:22
hareendraim fully updated15:22
vincenzomlmy log messages are totally crazy: it also says "no installed handler for fixed event - PowerButton" but the power button works15:22
vfwhareendra: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade15:22
EriC^^SuperJonotron: uuid15:22
hareendra3.13.0-100-generic15:23
vfwhareendra: sudo apt dist-upgrade15:23
* vincenzoml calling wife who has the same laptop and asking what kernel parameters does she use...15:23
hareendrai dnt wanna go to 16.xx lts15:23
hareendrai wanna stay in 14.04 for now15:23
vfwhareendra: I did not tell you to go to 16.xx15:23
Picihareendra: dist upgrades don't move you to new releases.15:23
Pici!dist-upgrade15:23
ubottuA dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.15:23
hareendrawhat wil this commnd do15:24
hareendrasudo apt dist-upgrade15:24
vfwhareendra: scroll up15:24
jhutchinsHow is snap supposed to make dependencies less of a problem?15:24
Picihareendra: it will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed.15:24
hareendraohh thank u sooo much15:25
hareendraill tray that also15:25
hareendra:)15:25
EriC^^vincenzoml: try a newer kernel from mainline15:25
mcphailjhutchins: dependecies are bundled in the snap15:25
hareendrathis is getting executed15:26
hareendra sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade15:26
hareendrawhat does it do?15:27
SuperJonotronEric^^, fstab updated, read to reboot or do I need to do something else first?15:27
EriC^^SuperJonotron: not yet, type mount -a15:27
SuperJonotronEriC^^, done15:27
EriC^^SuperJonotron: grub-install && update-grub15:28
AlgebrPici: How can I find all the places where wiley is used and fix my sources? no hits for wiley anything in /etc/apt15:28
whitehathello group. hope you can help. upgraded from 16.04->16.10. now virtualbox will not run because it cannot find the kernel module.  I've remove all of VB's packages and reinstalled, including dkms.  Still no vboxdrv kernel module.  I've using VB from the ubuntu repos. Ideas other than using virtualbox.org repo? Thank you.15:28
SuperJonotronEriC^^ done15:28
EriC^^whitehat: is the linux headers installed?15:29
EriC^^SuperJonotron: type exit then reboot15:29
PiciAlgebr: its 'wily'15:29
jhutchinsmcphail: So we sacrifice modularity and efficiency for MS-like convenience.15:29
vfwwhitehat: sudo apt install virtualbox15:30
OerHekswhitehat, see this answer, with UEFI you might need mokutil --disable-validation15:30
PiciAlgebr: and you'd need to upgrade to xenial to use it, it sounds like you're not actually on that release.15:30
OerHekshttp://askubuntu.com/questions/760671/could-not-load-vboxdrv-after-upgrade-to-ubuntu-16-04-and-i-want-to-keep-secur15:30
vfwwhitehat: sudo dpgk-reconfigure virtualbox15:30
SuperJonotronEriC^^, you are the man.  back up and no noticeable data loss. thanks you very much15:31
EriC^^SuperJonotron: no problem :D15:32
kyaajinguys need help, recently started working with ldap, using it for centralised user authentication. While ldapsearch gives ldap database on client but cant get entries in getent,m currently on system and have all the conf file ready15:32
whitehatEriC^^, originally yes.  which one?  there is no linux-headers-4.8.0-27* headers just the 4.8.0-26 headers exist in repo15:34
EriC^^whitehat: is there the headers for the current kernel?15:35
EriC^^try uname -r to see the name15:35
hareendrasudo apt dist-upgrade done15:35
whitehatEriC^^, 4.2.0-27-generic15:35
hareendra@<vfw>  sudo apt dist-upgrade done15:36
vfwhareendra: Did a new kernel get installed?15:36
vfwhareendra: If so, reboot....15:36
EriC^^whitehat: try dpkg -l | grep "linux-headers" and see if it's there15:37
AlgebrPici: its odd cause os-release says 16.04 xenial15:38
Algebrnot sure how wiley got in at all..15:38
whitehatEriC^^, I currently have no headers installed.  There are none for the current kernel 4.2.0-27 other than linux-headers-generic15:39
EriC^^whitehat: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-generic linux-headers-generic15:39
elias_aAny suggestions on how to install Wickr messaging app on 16.04?15:41
elias_aI did find this but no luck: https://www.linuxhelp.com/how-to-install-wickr-app-in-linux/15:42
elias_aLots of unmet dependencies.15:42
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njumdl2014Hello, I have a question about software dependency problem. locales->libc-bin->libc6. When I install libc6, it depends on locales. Wow, how do I solve this problem?15:43
whitehatEriC^^, in 16.10, when I do that it then wants to install the various headers for 4.8.0-26 as well as the linux-image files for their respect.  I'll try that with the 4.8.0-26 additions to see if that works15:43
njumdl2014http://paste.debian.net/89042915:43
NoImNotNineVoltwickr? why? "patented" security?15:43
NoImNotNineVoltthat sounds terrifyingly bad.15:43
NoImNotNineVoltthough, eff endorsed them, somehow, so maybe it's not that terrible...15:44
OerHekselias_a, did you perform "apt install -f " ? if so, good luck with that app, maybe you want top make a proper launcher too15:44
EriC^^whitehat: ok15:44
elias_aNoImNotNineVolt: Yes it does. And as it is from USA it is even worse. :P15:44
NoImNotNineVoltelias_a: have you considered signal?15:45
elias_aNoImNotNineVolt: I am actually helping a dude from Finnish help channel out here.15:45
NoImNotNineVoltah, fair enough. i'd recommend signal to him :P15:45
elias_aNoImNotNineVolt: No as i am not in need of instant messenfer. :P15:45
NoImNotNineVoltbut... isn't that what wickr is?15:47
elias_aNoImNotNineVolt: Yes but I am only helping him/her out. I'd just try the installation.15:47
elias_aNoImNotNineVolt: He has got a language barrier. :P15:48
whitehatEriC^^, i installed the linux-generic and linux-headers-generic and it installed a slew of *26 headers and still the same.  the Virtualbox rebuild of the dkms module failed again with the same error. :-(15:53
EriC^^whitehat: did you reboot?15:53
whitehatEriC^^, No.  usually don't have to.  i'll do that15:54
EriC^^boot into the latest kernel15:54
whitehatEriC^^, has been booting into the latest kernel since I upgraded to 16.10. waiting for reboot...15:55
EriC^^didn't you say you were on 4.2?15:56
jlucHello15:58
jluci'm helping a friend recover his lost wifi connection on XUbuntu15:58
jlucwhere should i look so he can connect ?15:59
whitehatEriC^^, oh great.  machine doesn't boot now.  going to be a long afternoon16:00
EriC^^whitehat: sounds like the install has some issues, maybe the upgrade didn't go so smooth?16:01
whitehatEriC^^, The upgrade was perfect last week.16:01
EriC^^jluc: check if the device appears first and if the kernel module is loaded16:01
EriC^^whitehat: something must have changed then16:02
EriC^^whitehat: ah, maybe it doesn't like the new kernel16:02
OerHekssigned kernel issue..?16:02
OerHekshttp://askubuntu.com/questions/760671/could-not-load-vboxdrv-after-upgrade-to-ubuntu-16-04-and-i-want-to-keep-secur16:02
whitehatEriC^^, The last apt-get install --reinstall.  It installed the previous kernel to satisfy deps for the linux-generic and linux-header-generic packages.16:03
EriC^^whitehat: it should install the latest kernel and headers16:03
EriC^^!info linux-generic16:03
jlucwhat device EriC^^ ? and where should i check that ? and what kernel module ?16:03
ubottulinux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 4.8.0.26.35 (yakkety), package size 1 kB, installed size 12 kB16:03
EriC^^4.8.0-2616:03
EriC^^jluc: lspci -k | grep -A2 Wireless16:04
jlucits xubuntu and i only know ubuntu and lubuntu, not xubuntu, so i dont even know how things should happen "when it works"16:04
jlucok i try16:04
OerHekswhitehat, what vbox version? i read this too > http://news.softpedia.com/news/virtualbox-5-1-8-out-now-oracle-adds-linux-kernel-4-8-support-in-virtualbox-5-0-509433.shtml as yakkety is still on 5.16 ??16:04
EriC^^jluc: try lspci -k and look for wireless16:05
EriC^^and see the line kernel module loaded16:05
jlucok EriC^^ : lspci grep returns approx "intel wireless 4965 AG or AGN kedron network connection rev 61 / device 1001 / kernel driver in use : iwl4965"16:06
jluc& what should i do with iwl4965 now ?16:06
whitehatOerHeks, will read the article.  now sure about the current version.  have to get the machine to boot first.  VB was working after the upgrade.  i just noticed that my VM's didn't come up this morning when I booted.  Must have been one of the latest packages that broke something.16:06
EriC^^jluc: try iwlist scan16:08
jlucsays "wlan0 failed to read scan data : network is down"16:09
thinkyhi16:10
jlucbtw the computer is wire linked to internet now and that works fine, only wifi cant be activated16:10
thinkyafter i upgrade ubuntu opera16:10
thinkyit asks me to update flash player16:10
OerHekswhitehat, check the log perhaps? $HOME/.VirtualBox/Machines/<vm name>/Logs16:10
hippybearapt-get remove --purge flashinstaller16:11
hippybearboom16:11
hippybearnever install again16:11
hippybear:D16:11
whitehatOerHeks, will do.  going to remove the packages that were just recently installed and then go from there.16:11
thinkyhippybear: but i need flash16:13
thinkyfor some contents16:13
hippybearlike?16:13
hippybearChrome has the 'whateveritscalled' instead of flash16:13
thinkyhippybear: online movie streaming16:13
thinkyweb lightirc client16:13
hippybeargross16:13
hippybearI can stream netflix16:13
hippybearis it like that?16:14
thinkyi dont use netflic16:14
thinkynetflix16:14
ppfand all the porn sites switched to html5 as well16:14
thinkynot so like16:14
thinkysome websites provides flashplayer16:14
hippybear This kind of Flash slows you down, and starting this September, Chrome 53 will begin to block it. HTML5 is much lighter and faster16:14
jlucwhat should i do with iwlist scan EriC^^ ?16:15
thinkydo u know about lightirc hippybear ?16:15
hippybearthinky, nope16:16
thinkyit is webchat client for IRC16:16
hippybearpepper flash, thats is16:16
thinkybased on flash16:16
hippybeardownload a real client?16:16
thinkyi dont like real client16:16
thinkyweb is much easier16:16
hippybearflash is insecure and being done away with16:16
EriC^^whitehat: it should have installed just the latest ones16:16
hippybearso eventually the web will force you to use something better until then, good luck16:17
EriC^^whitehat: linux-generic is a metapackage that has it's dependencies linux-image-generic and linux-headers-generic, which are both metapackages who have the dependencies as the latest kernel at any time16:17
thinkyanother question16:18
thinkywhich browser is best ? chrome, opera, firefox ?16:18
EriC^^whitehat: something else might be going on in your install16:18
hippybeardepends on the user16:18
OerHeksthere is no single best, try and use the one you like16:18
EMERSON_IS_A_JEWfuck you16:18
EMERSON_IS_A_JEWfuck you16:18
EMERSON_IS_A_JEWfuck you16:18
EMERSON_IS_A_JEWfuck you16:18
hippybearif you want flash to work chrome is not the option16:19
OerHeks... chrome comes with flash buildin, hippybear16:19
OerHekslolz16:19
Hell-Razorhey fellas. Just wondering if there are any dual band wifi nics out there that work out of the box16:19
hippybearOerHeks, Chrome uses PPAPI they block flash from Chrome 53 on16:19
OerHeksany other browser that uses pepperflash ... downloads chrome to rip the plugin.16:19
whitehatEriC^^, for some reason it used the old kernel when installing the generic packages. will be working on it this afternoon.  thank you.16:19
styler2go Hello. I am trying to setup an IPv6 dyndns. Is there some kind of client to do that? I tried ddclient but it seems like it can only update ipv416:20
OerHekshippybear, so? ppapi is the same as the pepperflash plugin.16:20
thinkyopera has own vpn and adblocker16:20
thinkyfirefox has adblocker16:20
thinkyopera doesnt both16:20
EriC^^jluc: try rfkill list all16:20
hippybearOerHeks, I didnt say it was any different16:20
OerHeksgood luck with opera. i never got it installed.16:21
hippybearOerHeks, I said Chrome 53 onward will block flash completely and only use pepper16:21
thinkyOerHeks: why?16:21
hippybearhttps://chrome.googleblog.com/2016/08/flash-and-chrome.html16:21
hippybearnot totally block I guess "In December, Chrome 55 will make HTML5 the default experience, except for sites which only support Flash. For those, you’ll be prompted to enable Flash when you first visit the site."16:22
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__VEGAN__Have you  eaten  ground beef  recently? Ground beef is the result of everything outside of  the  cow's  bones  (including nerves)  being  ground up. Ground beef often contains  prions   (misfolded proteins)  which  due  to  mammalic  protein metabolism act  virally and will cause you to come  down with  Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD) where your brain slowly decays due to holes forming in your16:25
__VEGAN__brain,  as the proteins in your body lose their ability to fold properly. Do you feel as smart as you were last week or last month? You may have it. Meat has always been murder,  but now,  when you serve beef, you may be  murdering  the ones you love  and even yourself.   There IS a healthy alternative!  Visit www.vegan.org today!16:25
ppflol16:25
tgm4883hmm, I should have a burger for lunch16:28
hippybearwow, Vegans spamming IRC now trying to guit trip people? Thats douchey as fuck16:28
hippybearprobably going to get a ton of people16:29
nacc!language | hippybear16:29
ubottuhippybear: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList16:29
hippybearI apologize, May the Christians with their delicate little ears forgive me in Jesus name16:29
hippybearalmonds16:29
jlucEriC^^, "rfkill list all" says : 1: phy0: Wireless LAN / softblock : no / hardblock : yes16:30
Stinky_FeetTripping by quitting is always a neat maneuver...16:30
nacchippybear: no reason to be more offensive when you ignore the channel guidelines, which are in the /topic16:30
jluc"soft blocked" and "hard blocked" actually16:31
EriC^^jluc: look for a switch on the laptop that turns the wifi on and off16:31
EriC^^might be on the sides16:32
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Shadow_aokhi16:34
Shadow_aokanyone would know why ubuntu keeps booting on an old kernel altough a new one has been installed ?16:34
Shadow_aokgrub has been updated, new kernel is the first option (i don't see the grub menu)16:34
Shadow_aokit's an upgrade from a 14.04 to a 16.04 with kodi installed16:35
SwedeMikeShadow_aok: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16042/how-to-get-to-the-grub-menu-at-boot-time16:36
Shadow_aokthanks16:38
jhutchinsShadow_aok: Is it possible you set a specific default boot item?16:40
Shadow_aok0 as default is /etc/default/grub16:40
Shadow_aoki commented the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 line and updated grub but it's still the same (holding shift doesn't do anything)16:41
Shadow_aokmaybe with commenting the GRUB_DEFAULT=0 will help16:42
jluc8-/ i've found the technical booklet of the notebook (compaq 6910P) and it says there is a wifi on/off switch but that is wrong, there is none on this item EriC^^16:42
jlucwifi light is on though16:42
EriC^^jluc: hmm the rfkill says it's hardblocked16:42
jlucit's a second hand refurbished computer; could it be that the refurbishment replaced the switch with a nice plastic bar ?????(nooooo)16:43
Shadow_aokdamn, didn't change anything16:45
EriC^^jluc: it might be disabled in the bios16:45
EriC^^jluc: see if wireless is disabled there16:46
xuxhi I need help16:48
xuxI need  to kill everyone in the world, that's the mode my body is in, how do I get out?16:48
MonkeyDustxux  let's hear it, in one line16:48
xuxprofessional help does not help16:48
MonkeyDust!ot | xux16:48
ubottuxux: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:48
xuxfedore ahs lost one important person already, ian murdock16:49
xuxyou don't want to lose me16:49
xuxI annot kill people16:49
daxoh damnit we lost him16:49
meltxux: go work for AMD's Linux GPU driver division, they are slowly turning me senile16:50
melt:)16:50
jlucwlan wifi seems ON. Should i invert/switch/permute LAN and WLAN (wifi network) ?16:50
Hell-Razorhey fellas. Just wondering if there are any dual band wifi nics out there that work out of the box16:55
jlucActually when i switch ON that BIOS setup (permute LAN and WLAN) and boot : the wifi light is now OFF, but "rfkill list all" says the same as previously "Soft blocked NO / Hard blocked YES"16:55
jlucSo i'll unset that mysterious setting and back to no lan/Wlan permute16:56
Shadow_aokfixed by reinstalling grub into sda and update-grub16:56
rocket__man virtualbox is pretty buggy on ubuntu17:06
rocket__i still have a couple of issues here17:07
rocket__but now enought time17:07
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kimodarshis this the place where one asks asenine questions for someone to answer?17:09
MonkeyDustkimodarsh  yes, this is ubuntu support17:09
kimodarshi'm having some troubles17:09
Guest17968hiya17:09
kimodarshmy machine does not seem to want to suspend properly17:09
kimodarshi can close the lid, but that does nothing17:10
Guest17968I wonder if somebody could help me17:10
MonkeyDustGuest17968  you won't know, until you ask a question17:10
kimodarshi can type pm-suspend in the terminal but it quickly boots up again17:10
kimodarshi cant even figure out what is causing the problem17:11
Guest17968well i have just upgraded to the lates linux mint 18,17:11
Guest17968now there is a lot of humming background noise going through my speakers via the onboard sound card17:12
dax!mintsupport17:12
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org17:12
Guest17968right-o17:12
kimodarshi've tried acpi tool but couldnt see/understand anything that was wrong. and i've used "dmesg" and that gave me the rundown of what happened but it didnt say anything about why17:12
Guest17968thought it might be something to do with the kernel or something17:12
hossein.17:13
kimodarshi'm using ubuntu 16.0417:14
Guest17968kimodarsh have you looked at the power saving settings in your desktop settings?17:15
kimodarshyes, it says to suspend on lid close, but nothing happens17:16
MkllHello.17:18
zed__hai17:19
selinuxiumHi there, I am havingf trouble with a clean install of 16.10. I am trying to use snappy but the dialouge in the Ubuntu Software centre will not accept my email/password for single sign on.17:20
selinuxiumI have also reset my password for single sign on, even though I know it previously worked.17:20
zed__iam new user17:20
zed__how are you17:20
zed__any reply friends17:20
protnhi17:21
zed__iam brought a laptop just few days ego,iam new user for computer17:22
protnkl17:22
MkllOfftopic from ubuntu but17:22
Mklldoes AntiX have an IRC chat similar17:22
zed__what are tou saying about ? i cant understand it friends17:23
nacczed__: this is the ubuntu support channel17:23
zed__ok17:23
nabbletI can't find gparted on the ubuntu live usb stick. I think I recalled gparted being part of the live image. What tool is now used instead of gparted?17:24
zed__i want to learn about linux ubuntu17:24
protnits not trolls support channel? zed__17:24
protn:P17:24
nacc!manual | zed__17:24
ubottuzed__: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/17:24
zed__ok17:25
protn!help17:25
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience17:25
zed__what is the basic17:25
protn!patience17:25
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/17:25
zed__nacc17:25
Mkllzed17:26
zed__iam from india.where are you from nacc17:26
MkllPm me17:26
nacczed__: that is offtopic17:26
nacczed__: this is not a chat channel17:26
zed__can you guide me to learn linux17:26
Mkll#ubuntu-chat?17:26
nacc!ot17:26
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:26
Mkll@zed__ message me17:27
zed__hmm17:27
zed__yes17:28
zed__where are you from guys17:28
zed__iam from india17:29
nacczed__: please stop.17:29
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MkllDo you know how?17:29
Mkllright click and select message.17:29
Mkllzed__ use #ubuntu-offtopic17:29
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jlucBack to basics ! On Xubuntu, what app should i launch so as to be able to connect to some wifi network ?17:35
jlucthis app would scan wifi and propose me the various available connections17:35
Mkll24uh17:36
jlucThis doesnt happen automatically so how can i manualy launch that app ?17:36
Mkll24use the default connection?17:36
Mkll24app?17:36
jlucit doesnt happen automatically so how can i manualy launch that "default connection" app ?17:36
Mkllzed__17:38
Southern_Gentlemnm-applet17:39
MkllHelp.17:40
Southern_GentlemMkll, we cant17:42
Hell-RazorNobody knows about wireless?17:46
NoImNotNineVoltsome people know about wireless.17:46
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NoImNotNineVolti'm considering getting my ham license.17:46
Hell-Razorjust looking to see if there are any decent dual band cards or sticks out there NoImNotNineVolt, google says yes and no17:48
anonhey everyone, quick question. I am attempting to tri-boot my laptop with Mac OS X 10.11, Win10 & Ubuntu (latest). I have successfully installed OS X, Windows & Ubuntu. OS X & Windows boot just fine but when attempting to boot Ubuntu I get a flashing cursor screen.17:50
NoImNotNineVoltwell, that's a good question, and one which i might need an answer to myself in the near future :)17:50
tewardHell-Razor: "decent" is a relative term.  I have an Alfa card/stick (it's a high gain one though, with the antennas) that works pretty well and is dual band.17:50
anonAlso I am completely unable to do anything in the Grub menu. Keyboard seems like it just does not work at all when in that menu.17:50
Largehey anyone knows about honeyd installation17:51
Hell-Razorteward one that doesnt require a ton of setup. my current one took me like 6 hours to get working17:51
tewardHell-Razor: mine just required updating my 14.04 driver package (easy for me), then plugging the thing in.17:51
tewardworks OOTB on 16.04 live disks, when I tested17:51
TitoNhey got a quick question if i may. How is the support for amd r9 270 cards in ubuntu?17:52
Dennis__Goodevening all17:53
Ramsey_Hello There17:53
Ramsey_ping17:53
anoncan I access the Grub install if I boot from the LiveUSB?17:53
Dennis__I have a problem with my ubuntu 16 postfix configuration which causes the problem that i cant send or receive emails on my vps17:53
Hell-Razorteward my current one is on the nonfree drivers and is a pita17:54
Dennis__according to mxtoolbox.com everything is fine ?! (im a noob on mail servers) but i get this error : Host x.x.x.x said: 550 Sender     verify failed (in reply to RCPT TO command)17:54
backboxthanks17:54
backboxtu madre17:54
Dennis__and i cant figure it out17:55
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squintyanon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot18:00
anonsquinty I am attempting now18:02
anonthank you <318:02
anonLVM is for locally installed HDD's yes?18:04
anonodd18:08
anongrub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)18:08
ppfanon: is it?18:10
anonyes it is18:10
anonI'm actually sitting in the grub dir now lol18:10
zamanflooking for a widget for twitter to embed on my desktop18:11
ppfanon: its question was ' is /dev mounted'18:12
ppfcan you paste the output of mount please18:12
anonI'm failing to resolve Ubuntu links18:13
anonwtf?!?18:13
anonlet me ask this. I installed Ubuntu to it's own partition sda5 and then installed grub to the same partition. That /shouldn't/ cause issues should it?18:15
ppf'partition'?18:15
ppfyou install grub to a device not a partition18:16
anontri-boot OS X, Win10 & Ubuntu18:16
StumpDumbInstalling Lubuntu: USB drive runs great...alone, plug in HD and get Busybox errors. HD works great with another Ubuntu HD can not figure out what the problem is....any ideas out there?18:16
anonso I installed to the same partition that I installed Ubuntu to18:16
anonI'm using clover as my bootloader18:16
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ppffor osx or ubuntu?18:17
anonclover is handling all boots18:18
anonbasically clover loads grub to load ubuntu18:18
ppfokay18:18
ppfwhat's the problem you're trying to solve?18:18
anonto get the OS to boot18:18
anonafter install I just get a blinking cursor or a purple/black screen18:19
anonbut my keyboard doesn't work in Grub to change the boot options18:19
ppfso grub is loading?18:19
meeseeksquestion: im using intel hardware raid (lvl 1). during 14.04 server install i am prompted to activate mdadm intel/ddf controllers, as well as serial ata controllers. what is the difference between the two controllers?18:20
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meeseeksdo i need one or both or neither if im using hardware raid?18:20
anonppf yes grub is loading but it just gives me a blinking cursor on boot18:21
ppfso it's booting or is grub stuck?18:21
meeseeksanon try reconfiguring your xorg.conf.18:22
ppfanon: no don't do that (yet?)18:22
meeseekscan you drop to a tty?18:22
derbiehi. I usedd rufus archlinux to place a linux distro using dd image. I want to create an ubuntu bootable disk now, and i can't format it. In rufus it says it has 67MB.18:23
ppfmeeseeks: let's first figure what's wrong and then look for ways to fix something ;)18:23
derbienevermind18:25
derbieport was bad18:25
derbieXD18:25
anonppf: I'm doing a fresh install again. Just because I had to remove to try and reinstall grub and every apt-get failed18:30
ppffair enough18:30
chelioshi there, I am running MATE desktop on 16.04 I previously enabled focus follows mouse but now I would like to turn it off. I set focus-mode to click and unchecked auto-raise but it still does focus follows mouse. Any ideas?18:30
anoninstalling as superuser18:30
ppfanon: that makes no sense?18:30
nabbletis there a way to star the install process from the "try ubuntu" live system?18:30
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anonwhat doesn't?18:31
ppf'installing as superuser'18:31
anonthat's what it says18:31
ppfwhat what says18:31
anonhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/xRUVJAaE/1477593110.JPG18:31
anonthe installer18:31
ppfalright18:32
anonI'll be 100% honest, this is the first time I'm attempting a tri-boot but Clover seems to handle the boot just fine to Grub18:34
anonit just seems to stop after that point. Keyboard becomes useless (attached and wireless) and then boots to a blinking cursor18:34
kernellohello, since 16.04. I cannot create pgp keys18:34
anonI hope the reinstall fixes those issues but to be fair without being able to change the boot args within Grub from the menu I'm not sure how to go about fixing that issue.18:35
anonseems like it /could/ be a graphics card or driver issue. Am I wrong?18:35
ubuntu-mateEriC^^, u here?18:35
EriC^^yeah18:35
ppfanon: tell us if it's working18:35
ubuntu-mateplease can help me out on grub18:35
ppf!ask18:36
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:36
anonwaiting for it to finish18:36
ubuntu-matei decided to delete debian and install windows on my ssd18:36
anonwill let you know when it's done. Appreciate your time tho mate :)18:36
ubuntu-matenow i only access grub rescue18:36
nabblethi, when I boot the live usb stick I do not get to choose to install ubunut. it always go to the live system straight away. Any ideas how to install nevertheless?18:36
tomreynkernello: if you'll provide an error message or explain what makes you think / how you verified 'it does not work', soemone might be able to help you solve this issue.18:36
ubuntu-mateEriC^^, weirdly my 32gb ssd is formated as ntfs but fdisk sees other partitions on it18:37
ubuntu-matethis /dev/sdf: 29.3 GiB18:37
i3asetest18:37
tomreynnabblet: the idea there is foir the live system to fully boot up, then allow you to choose to run the installer.18:37
anonubuntu-mate: is the "other" partition like 200 mb?18:37
anoncuz that would be your efi partition18:37
ubuntu-matesystem dont support efi18:37
ubuntu-mateold good bios18:37
ubuntu-matefrom 201318:38
anoninteresting18:38
nabblettomreyn: but it never gives me the choice to install.18:38
ubuntu-matefdisk sees /dev/sdf1          6579571 1924427647 1917848077 914.5G 70 DiskSecure Multi-Boot18:38
nabblettomreyn: I get to log in and that's it18:38
ubuntu-matenext /dev/sdf2       1953251627 3771827541 1818575915 867.2G 43 unknown18:38
tomreynnabblet: hmm, that's strange, check your media for errors, i'd say.18:38
ubuntu-matenext /dev/sdf3        225735265  225735274         10     5K 72 unknown18:38
ppf!paste | ubuntu-mate18:39
ubottuubuntu-mate: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:39
nabblettomreyn: is there a way to manually start the install procedure?18:39
kernellotomreyn, it is self-evident, you go to keys and pw manager, select new pgp key, enter details, but nothing is created18:39
coolmadmaxnabblet, check -->https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/try-ubuntu-before-you-install18:39
kernellono errors18:39
tomreynnabblet: well possible, but i do not know it.18:39
ubuntu-mateok guys here it is18:39
tomreynkernello: which application provides these user interfaces=?18:40
ppfubuntu-mate: what's the question you seek an answer to?18:40
ubuntu-matefor what it should be a single 29gb ntfs partition fdisk prints this https://paste.ubuntu.com/23389541/18:40
ubuntu-mateEriC^^, any ideas?18:40
EriC^^sec18:41
kernellotomreyn, seahorse18:41
k_jhi18:41
k_jwhat's the codename of ubuntu 16.04?18:41
ubuntu-matexenial18:41
Picik_j: xenial xerus18:41
Pici!16.0418:41
ubottuUbuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download at http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Read the release notes at http://ubottu.com/y/xenial18:41
tomreynkernello: yes, probably seahorse. if so, maybe seahorse is not working as expected. but you can still create openpgp keys fine using the gpg command line interface, or using a different graphical frontend.18:42
anonppf:18:42
k_ji wonder if it's possible to install it on an usb hd and boot the os from there18:42
Pici!xenial =~ s/current/current LTS/18:42
ubottuI'll remember that Pici18:42
anonhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/YlHddBM6/1477593733.JPG18:42
kernellotomreyn, which other GUI could I useß18:42
kernello?18:42
ppfanon: okay18:42
k_jcould you please point out an official guide on how to install ubuntu xenial on an usb hd?18:42
anonhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/qtvtipmm/1477593772.JPG18:42
tomreynkernello: i would very much recommend doing it on the CLI really.18:43
ppfk_j: don't think there is one. does the regular install not work for you?18:43
kernellotomreyn, I'd very much like to, but until I learn it, a gui could solve it for now18:43
anonhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ipAtgNwX/1477593813.JPG18:43
k_jppf, i have no space on my laptop disk18:43
anonAnd that's what it just sticks at ppf18:43
ppfk_j: you can pick the disk during install. doesn't that work for the external one?18:44
kernelloand why not seahorse working? why are other things not working since, say, 14.04.?18:44
kernellonetwork manager bugs,18:44
ppfanon: is that pre-grub? post-grub?18:44
anonpost18:44
kernellochrome login window bugs18:44
kernelloit used to be smooth out here18:44
k_jppf, but how can i start the install process then from here?18:44
ppfput the iso on a thumb drive and boot that18:45
anonthat's how I installed originally ppf18:45
ppfanon: that last one was for k_j18:45
anonoh18:45
anonlol18:45
RarrikinsWhen is 16.04.2 coming out?18:45
k_jppf, hmm i do not quite understand, it's enough to copy an .iso to the disk?18:45
ppfk_j: no. what OS are you on?18:46
ppf!install18:46
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate18:46
k_jppf, i am on ubuntu 16.04 with no space on the hda18:46
jlas9    /msg nickserv set hide email on18:46
jlas9    /msg nickserv set hide email on18:46
jlas9    /msg nickserv set hide email on18:46
ppfk_j: see above18:46
popeyyou may want to remove the leading spaces jlas918:46
ppfanon: is that pre-grub? post-grub?18:46
anonpost grub18:46
jlas9sorry, please.18:46
ppfanon: can you boot with nomodeset?18:47
anonI have no keyboard use during Grub18:47
anonso I would need a way of modifying the config by LiveUSB18:47
ppfhm, okay. you can set the default on a live disk18:48
tomreynkernello: i don't know of these other issues you refer to, nor did i know about seahorse's issues until now. i can confirm the seahorse issue here, though (just did).18:48
EriC^^ubuntu-mate: what exactly happened?18:48
kernellotomreyn, you had also issues with seahorse?18:48
EriC^^ubuntu-mate: it all doesn't make sense18:48
ubuntu-matessd was somehow freaking on me so i decided to format it18:48
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kernellosorry, not chrome, but chromium18:49
ubuntu-mateand am now unbootable18:49
anonppf how do I go about that mate?18:49
kernelloI found out that it was a common issue18:49
ppfanon: booted in the livedisk?18:49
ubuntu-matebut on ssd i want to install windows18:49
anonabout to do so now18:49
kernelloand network manager problem is that it disappears every now and then, or does not reappear after a disconnect18:49
ubuntu-matebut i have to fix boot first right?18:49
kernelloor after recovering from sleep mode18:49
tomreynkernello: i suggest you look for an existing bug report. and file a new one if you can't find it. much of this provess can be done for you half automatically when you type this on a terminal: ubuntu-bug seahorse18:49
anonI tried rebooting one more time and it blinked cursor18:50
ubuntu-matessd is formated as ntfs18:50
tomreyn*proCess18:50
anonbooting into LiveUSB now18:50
ubuntu-matebut weirdly fdisk see other partitions18:50
ppfanon: good. then mount the ubuntu drive and edit /etc/default/grub18:50
ubuntu-mateEriC^^, the /dev/sdg1 is my current working xenial install with broken grub18:51
ppfonce you've mounted the ubuntu disk, you can also check it's /var/log18:51
ppffor dmesg or kern.log or syslog18:51
ubuntu-mateEriC^^, sdf is my now empty ntfs formated ssd hdd18:51
kernellotomreyn, thank you.18:52
star_hallo18:52
star_have somebody?18:52
anonsudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt18:52
tomreynyou're welcome, kernell018:52
EriC^^ubuntu-mate: try creating a fresh partition table18:52
anondo I need to mount he /mnt/boot if it's on the same sda?18:52
ubuntu-mateok18:52
EriC^^ubuntu-mate: sudo fdisk /dev/sdf18:52
ppfanon: no, not unless it's on a different partition18:52
EriC^^then "o", then "w"18:52
star_what are you talking about18:53
kernelloby the way, seahorse worked this time (key created), but I remember other instances when it didnt either create it or needed really longer (than before)18:53
anonI need to do it via chroot tho right?18:53
ubuntu-mateEriC^^, https://paste.ubuntu.com/23389593/ done now what?18:54
ppfanon: the update-grub yes18:54
ubuntu-matesdf has Unallocated Space18:54
marsjeHi folks. I'm trying to fix someone's Ubuntu 14.04.5 system that seems messed up, probably by some failed updates. It's running kernel 3.13.0-98-generic but apt-get is complaining about 3.13.0-100-generic18:54
ppfanon: no, actually you don't even need that18:55
EriC^^ubuntu-mate: install windows18:55
ubuntu-matemy grub is broken18:55
marsjeI'm trying to remove version 100, but then it proposed to remove package linux-generic which doesn't seem like a good idea18:55
nabblettomreyn: interestingly, windows install fails too18:55
EriC^^ubuntu-mate: windows will install its own bootloader18:55
ppfanon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_the_LiveCD_terminal18:55
nabblettomreyn: like ubuntu it won't even start to install18:55
tosswhat does this mean? xargs: xargs.c:443: main: Assertion `bc_ctl.arg_max <= (131072-2048)' failed.18:55
anonreinstalling grub now18:55
tossok18:56
EriC^^ubuntu-mate: oh you mean the one18:56
EriC^^ah i remember you better now18:56
ubuntu-matebut then i wont be able to boot into my ubuntu xenial18:56
ubuntu-mateyeap hi :)18:56
EriC^^you had debian and one disk had no partitions18:56
ubuntu-mateyes18:56
anonerror18:56
EriC^^aha so the one with the no partitions you formatted it?18:56
ubuntu-mateno 1 debian 1 xenial18:56
anonFile system 'ext2' doesn't support embedding18:56
anonerror: will not proceed with blocklists18:56
tomreynnabblet: this points to a hardware or firmware issue then.18:57
ubuntu-mateno i formatted debian18:57
theshamsi am using ubuntu 14.04 ,sometimes while browsing internet via firefox it got hanged (most of the time),and display a dialog box that a stop script is running.Does it also happen with you guys and how to solve this issue?18:57
EriC^^ubuntu-mate: yeah that was the one right18:57
ubuntu-mate:)18:57
EriC^^ubuntu-mate: you had the debian install's grub on the xenial mbr18:57
ubuntu-mateoh ok18:57
ubuntu-matenow what18:57
ppfanon: context please18:57
EriC^^ubuntu-mate: ok, type sudo parted -l18:58
ubuntu-matei have chrooted the sdg118:58
ubuntu-mateto fix grub :)18:58
EriC^^ubuntu-mate: did you run the for i in /dev ...?18:58
anonhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/LdVHLr60/1477594682.JPG18:58
ubuntu-matei need thea i file to tmp line etc18:58
anonppf: I hope that's enough context for you :P18:58
theshamsplease answer18:58
ubuntu-mateEriC^^, that is the line i am missing18:59
ppfanon: yes, that's alright18:59
ubuntu-mateplease sent it to me18:59
EriC^^aha18:59
EriC^^ubuntu-mate: type exit out of the chroot18:59
ppfgrub-install expects a drive, not a partition18:59
ubuntu-mateok am out18:59
ppfbut beware that this'll (probably) overwrite clover?18:59
EriC^^ubuntu-mate: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done18:59
anonno18:59
anonbecause clover is on sda119:00
anonin the EFI partition19:00
ppf...19:00
ppfsda1 is a partition19:00
ppfsda is the drive19:00
ubuntu-mateyeah back in bussiness19:00
ubuntu-matethanks EriC^^19:00
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anonwell it's in my EFI partition and isn't effected by Linux installs apparently19:00
EriC^^no problem19:00
EriC^^ubuntu-mate:19:00
anonI've reinstalled 3x times now and it never touches clover19:00
ppfalright, i've never touched a mac, so i don't know too much about it19:01
anonbut how do I set nomodeset?19:01
anonif I can't use a keyboard in Grub... :\19:01
ppfin /etc/default/grub19:01
ppfalso comment out the HIDDEN settings and remove quiet and splash from the command line19:02
ppfthen update grub19:02
anonany chance you could SS it?19:02
ppfSS?19:02
anonscreenshoy19:02
anonshot*19:02
o|0_0|v_Peace?19:02
o|0_0|v_Peacevim /etc/default/grub19:03
o|0_0|v_PeaceRemove the "#" sign from the hidden settings19:03
ppfanon: https://ghostbin.com/paste/go47z19:03
porkstoreyou know what, i've been manually removing old images every time my boot disk fills up on one computer19:04
ubuntu-mateoff to install windows 10 EriC^^  thanks again19:04
porkstorenow i found out there's an 'autoremove' command19:04
porkstorewhich is nice19:04
porkstorebut now i want it to work automatically19:05
star_ping19:05
star_what is the time19:05
ppfporkstore: you can do it as part of unattended upgrades19:05
anonppf this is my grub file19:05
anonhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/DeV1iBTu/19:05
porkstoreyou mean updates or upgrades19:05
k_jwhat is the command to show the actual codename?19:05
porkstorei've been thinking i should stop manually approving updates because i always approve them so there is no point19:06
ppfanon: yes, now make the relevant parts look like mine, but without the backlight thing19:06
ppfk_j: cat /etc/*-release19:06
k_jthx19:06
anonhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/qaWdkCDr/19:06
anoncorrect?19:07
ppf!unattended-upgrades19:07
anonwait you said without the backlight19:07
anonhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/WKV5M0Ui/19:07
porkstoreOld kernels still accumulate in /boot because autoremove is not enabled in Ubuntu by default - you must either run it manually every so often, or you must enable it.19:07
anonso like that?19:07
ppfanon: looks good19:08
ppf!info unattended-upgrades19:08
ubottuunattended-upgrades (source: unattended-upgrades): automatic installation of security upgrades. In component main, is optional. Version 0.92ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 32 kB, installed size 308 kB19:08
anonit won't let me save19:08
ppfwhy not19:08
anonhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/pBm357eE/1477595365.JPG19:09
nabblettomreyn: after some more investigation it seems that the isntall medium (win as well as linux) must not be booted in CSM mode. Does that ring a bell?19:09
ppfanon: yeah you need to open it as root19:09
anonfrom terminal?19:09
ppfyes, for instance19:10
anoncommand please?19:10
ppfsudo gedit ...19:10
ioria!sudo19:10
ubottusudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !pkexec (for older releases: !gksu and !kdesudo). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo19:10
ioria!gksu19:11
ubottuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)19:11
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ppfanon: sudo gedit /etc/default/grub19:12
ppfor gksu gedit /etc/default/grub19:12
porkstoreppf - do i need that package or can i just set it in the visual software & updates settings19:13
anonppf: no protocol specified19:14
porkstorei wonder why i can't automatically install non-security updates19:14
anoncannot open display: :019:14
ppfporkstore: with unattended upgrades yo ucan19:14
porkstoreso that is different from software updater options19:14
porkstoremust be the case19:14
anonhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/RbYZ0pAj/1477595705.JPG19:15
ppfanon: run the command from a new terminal19:16
ppfoutside the chroot19:16
ppfand throw in an /mnt there :)19:16
ioriaor just use sudo nano /etc/default/grub19:16
anonworked like a charm19:16
anonno need for /mnt19:16
ppfanon: that's the wrong grub ...19:16
anonoh19:16
anonlol19:16
anonsudo gedit /mnt/etc/default/grub19:17
anon?19:17
ppfya19:17
anonblank file19:17
anonthe first one I did had the info in it tho19:18
anonjust the sudo gedit /etc/default/grub19:18
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giorgioqualcuno mi aiuta?19:18
porkstoreppf - any idea how i'm supposed to configure this ?19:18
ppfyes, in the non-chrooted terminal that's the one of the livesystem19:18
porkstoreit says i have to select an 'origins-pattern'19:19
porkstorethe default pattern has the line label=Debian-Security in it19:19
ppfporkstore: open /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades19:19
ppfread the comments in there19:19
ioriaanon, ls /mnt/etc/default/grub19:19
anonnothing ioria19:20
giorgioho un problema col monitor19:20
ioriaanon, so it's not mounted19:20
porkstoreshould i just configure it via that file instead of dpkg-reconfigure ?19:20
ppfanon: paste mount19:20
ppfporkstore: yes19:20
porkstorecool19:20
anoncommand?19:20
ioriamount19:20
ppfmount | nc termbin.com 999919:20
anonhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/4ljTVhHe/19:21
anondammit19:21
anonwrong paste lol19:21
anonhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/oCtoJeOO/19:22
anonit is mounted /dev/sda5 on /mnt type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered)19:22
ioriaanon, and your /root is on /dev/sda5 ?19:23
anonyes19:23
ppfls /mnt/etc/default/19:23
anonshows grub folder19:24
anonbut it's empty19:24
anonwawait19:24
anonI r dedede19:24
porkstorehow do enable unattented upgrades ?19:26
porkstorejust editing that file is enough ?19:26
ppfyes19:26
anonokay edited & saved19:26
anonrunning update-grub now19:26
anondone19:26
ppffrom the chroot19:26
anonI should be able to reboot and it should work no?19:26
anonyes19:26
ppfgood, give it a shot19:26
anonI may be a newb to this shit but I'm not a noob in general :P19:26
porkstoreppf - i edited the file, then ran the software updater19:27
porkstoreit is asking me if i want to install now19:27
porkstoreshould not be doing that19:27
anonshutting down19:27
ppfporkstore: it's 'unattended'19:27
anonso I can remove USBN19:27
anonso I can remove USB*19:27
porkstoreyeah but it says there is an update available19:27
anonbooting to clover....... booting linux19:27
porkstorewhen does it run ?19:27
ppfit'll install upgrades and autoremove on it's own19:27
anonkeyboard STILL doesn't work in Grub19:27
anon15 seconds until auto boot19:28
ioriaanon, wifi keyboard ?19:28
anonbuilt in and usb keyboards don't work ioria19:28
anonlooks like I have verbose boot now ppf?19:28
ppfanon: yes, that was the intention so we can see what's really up19:29
anonhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/elJOQHH4/1477596588.JPG19:29
anonthat's what it's hung on19:30
ioriaanon,  not booting ?19:31
anonnope19:31
anonhung right where the picture shows19:31
anonstill sitting there19:31
ioriaanon,  but boots from live ?19:31
anonyup19:32
ioriaanon,  what is that 16.10 ?19:32
anonnewest LTS available as of 2 days ago19:32
ioriaanon,  elaborate, please19:33
anon16.04.119:34
ioriaanon,  you upgraded from wily or from trusty ?19:34
anonI downloaded the ISO from Ubuntu.com and then imaged it to USB for installation19:35
ioriaanon,  fresh install , then ?19:35
anonioria, I tried a fresh install 3 times19:35
anonit all did the same thing (freeze/hang on blinking cursor or purple/black screen)19:35
ppfanon: did you verify the iso's hash-sum?19:36
ioriaanon,  did you check the image and the media ?19:36
anonyes, all validate19:36
anonand the Live boots just fine19:36
ioriait's not the same19:36
ioriaanon,  why are you using nomodeset ?19:38
ppfioria: my suggestion19:38
ioriai see19:38
ppfanon: can you remove nomodeset?19:38
anonI'll have to boot back into the Live and then do it all again19:39
anonyou just want "" as the option?19:39
ppfyes i'm afraid19:39
ppfyes19:39
anonokay19:39
anonwill have to chroot all over again but oh well19:39
ppfyeah19:40
anongive me some time and I'll let you know what happens. Just need to sudo gedit /mnt/etc/default/grub and change it19:40
ioriaanon,  can't you use the grub screen from your installation ?19:40
ppfwe're also guessing here, so it's a longshot19:40
anonno keyboard19:40
anonit doesn't recognize my keyboards19:40
ioriaright19:40
anonno idea why either19:40
ppfcan you try an external keyboard on an usb port?19:41
ppf*a19:41
ioriawell, it's not normal19:41
anonyea, tried wireless USB, built in and wired USB19:41
anonall fail19:41
ppfit's a macbook, right?19:41
anonno19:41
anonit's a hackintosh19:41
ioriaasus19:41
anonyea asus i3 with HD 5500 gpx19:42
anongrub works from USB boot19:42
anonbut not HDD boot19:42
anonwtf19:42
EriC^^anon: did you bless it?19:42
ppfanon: that might be because of the chain loader19:42
anonHmm19:43
ioriaEriC^^, lol19:43
ppfanon: is there a grub on your live disk?19:43
anonLiveUSB but yes19:43
EriC^^ioria: seriously19:43
EriC^^:D19:43
ppftry and use that to boot the installed kernel?19:43
ioriaEriC^^, i know, i know19:43
anonHow?19:43
EriC^^anon: you have to bless grub19:44
EriC^^are you using refind or just efi to boot it?19:44
anonclover19:44
EriC^^is that like refind?19:44
anonkiinda19:45
BuckyHi, I have an almost fresh Ubuntu 16.04.1 server however I can't make a new user with a proper home folder, there is no /etc/skel folder, could someone help me out?19:45
ioriaThis is EFI-based bootloader for BIOS-based computers created as a replacement to EDK2/Duet bootloade19:45
EriC^^Bucky: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall bash19:45
ioriaanon, and why do you have it ?19:45
anonHave to use clover to boot a hackintish19:46
anonhackintosh*19:46
BuckyEriC^^, OK, side question, is there a way to verify all of the default packages are installed properly?19:46
EriC^^does that mean it lets you boot in psuedo efi mode on bios machines?19:46
anonYes19:46
ioriais EriC^^ stuff, then19:46
EriC^^pretty clover19:46
anonClover is actually really nice19:47
anonI've already got the hackintosh bootable and win10 bootable all from clover19:47
tomreynnabblet: does not ring a bell for me, no. but i'm not really into CSM implementations. i do know that ubuntu installers and installations alike (standard kernel images) can boot on both legacy BIOS and UEFI.19:47
BuckyEriC^^, ran the command, skel folder is there but is empty19:47
anonIt's just Ubuntu that won't actually boot19:47
EriC^^!info debsums | Bucky19:47
ubottuBucky: debsums (source: debsums): tool for verification of installed package files against MD5 checksums. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.2 (yakkety), package size 41 kB, installed size 213 kB19:47
anonHaving a quick smoke ppf19:48
anonThen I'll do the edit19:48
EriC^^Bucky: try ls -a /etc/skel19:48
meltgrub2 -> chainload clover19:48
meltanon^19:48
EriC^^the files are actually hidden files there19:48
BuckyEriC^^, yeah, just saw the files are there, I might be retarded19:48
anonHow melt?19:48
BuckyOK, second issue, trying to VNC into the server to use the XFCE DE, and there are no icons.19:50
anonedited19:55
anonrebooting19:55
anonwaiting for 30 second timeout19:55
anonand still hangs at the exact same part19:55
ioriashould be ten19:55
ioriaanon,  have you ever installed ubuntu on that machine ?19:56
anonno19:56
EriC^^what part?19:57
ioriaanon,  really idk, but that clover could be the issue19:57
ioriaEriC^^, this https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/elJOQHH4/1477596588.JPG19:57
EriC^^did you try booting the install from the live usb's grub as ppf said?19:59
nabblettomreyn: this pendrive can't boot w/o csm19:59
anonbooting directly to GRUB on liveUSB19:59
anonnow you want me to install from here rather than install from the clover EFI?19:59
tomreynnabblet: not if you have secureboot enabled, i guess20:00
EriC^^anon: no20:00
EriC^^anon: try a memtest20:00
anonI'm assuming that's a CLI com?20:00
EriC^^anon: 1 sec20:01
EriC^^you're in the live usb grub right now?20:01
anonyes20:01
anonand the only options are try Ubuntu without install, install Ubuntu, OEM install & check disc for defects20:01
Jordan_Uanon: If you select "try Ubuntu without installing" you can still always run ubiquity (the installer) from the live environment, and I recommend doing so as then you can browse the internet and do other tasks (including talking to us) while installing.20:02
anonJordan_U: that isn't the issue20:03
Jordan_Uanon: But if you have a UEFI based computer, you really should boot and install via UEFI.20:03
anonthe issue is that it's not booting20:03
Jordan_Uanon: OK. What happens when you try to select the "try before installing" option?20:03
EriC^^anon: ok, try press "c" in grub20:03
anonokay I'm in CLI20:04
anonJordan_U: it boots just fine and is 100% usable, it's just not usable after installation when attempting to standalone boo20:04
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EriC^^anon: type ls -l and see what you get20:05
Jordan_Uanon: OK. What happens when you try to boot your newly installed system?20:05
elichai2hey20:05
EriC^^https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/elJOQHH4/1477596588.JPGhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/elJOQHH4/1477596588.JPG Jordan_U20:05
elichai2I want to make my system save logs of the terminal20:05
elichai2the outputs too20:06
elichai2(bash_history saves only the commands themself)20:06
anonhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/0SasoIfE/1477598774.JPG20:06
elichai2how can I do it?20:06
bobekhi all, need help with ACPI on Lenovo t430 ... acpi_listen do not detect FN + F4.. why ?20:07
anonEriC^^:20:07
EriC^^anon: ok, try to boot the actual install for a bit20:08
MonkeyDustelichai2  you can use the 'tee' command20:08
EriC^^and try in the grub line memmap=64K$020:08
moloneyIs it just me, or has persistent network naming gotten worse under systemd?  Now I can't use standard names like "eth0" because "it might race with the kernel naming".  Was this a problem with the old udev rules way of doing things and I just wasn't aware?20:08
moloneyAnd I have never had an issue with network interface names changing due to a reboot in the past (I know adding a new interface could jumble up the names) even without a udev rule. But I recently saw this on a server where I disabled the systemd method of persistent naming.20:09
elichai2MonkeyDust, I want something automatic20:09
bobekhi all, need help with ACPI on Lenovo t430 ... acpi_listen do not detect FN + F4.. why ?20:09
MonkeyDustelichai2  to see what 'tee' does, type    ls | tee.dat20:09
nabblettomreyn: it's deactivated20:09
elichai2that will save the last 1GB of terminal history20:09
MonkeyDustelichai2  to see what 'tee' does, type    ls | tee ls.dat20:09
Jordan_Umoloney: This was indeed a problem before systemd. There have been other solutions to the problem since before systemd, but they weren't used by default.20:10
bobekanybody help me with acpi ?20:11
elichai2sorry for disconnecting20:12
moloneyJordan_U: Good to know, I guess I will have to bite the bullet and embrace the systemd method.  Have I just been lucky in the past with reboots not changing interface names?20:13
Jordan_Umoloney: I believe so, yes.20:14
tomreynnabblet: mayber you have some kind of hard disk write protection enabled.20:17
tomreynnabbletyou could type "dmesg" in a temrinal while on the ubuntu installer to get an idea of what may be wrong20:17
Jordan_Umoloney: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ indicates that udev had a scheme for trying to permanently assign names like eth0 to interfeces, and list the problems that it had. They don't say if it was ever the default in udev, and I don't know for sure if that was ever used by default in Ubuntu but I don't believe it was.20:18
MuliLPTPhey fellas, I'm running apache2 on ubuntu 16.04, and am unable to password protect a directory's listings via both the .htaccess file, along with the site.conf file20:19
MuliLPTPsuggestions?20:19
MuliLPTP        <Directory /var/www/nextcloud/tftproot>20:21
MuliLPTP                Options Indexes FollowSymLinks20:21
MuliLPTP                Options +Indexes20:21
MuliLPTP                AuthType Basic20:21
MuliLPTP                AuthName "Restricted Content"20:21
MuliLPTP                AuthUserFile /etc/apache2/.htpasswd20:21
Jordan_U!pastebin | MuliLPTP20:22
ubottuMuliLPTP: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:22
jlucyou need some apache extensions for some htaccess commands to work MuliLPTP , did you check that ?20:23
jlucbtw why -Indexes, shjoul20:24
jlucdnt you prefer -Indexes ?20:24
jlucwhy +Indexes20:25
anonstill not booting20:26
anonwtf20:26
_ramokgood evening20:26
_ramokI've installed ubuntu 16.04  and wanted to install letsencrypt via apt-get. i'm getting the following messages:  http://pastebin.com/viwqrbcz20:28
_ramokapt-get -f install also doesn't solve the problem20:28
_ramokany ideas what i shoul ddo here?20:28
Iranysudo apt-get autoremove maybe? _ramok20:30
anonppf: EriC^^ any ideas?!20:31
MuliLPTPjluc, http://pastebin.com/R0uU1w9420:31
tomreyn_ramok: check what's in /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages and why it's there, when it shouldn't be20:31
jlucsorry i cant help MuliLPTP20:32
KingsQuestif i remove the proposed ubuntu repository can i remove all proposed packages already installed as well ?20:32
anoncould it be a partition map issue?20:33
KingsQuestfurthermore i do not know why i cannot remove proposed packages20:34
_ramoktomreyn: i've installed mesos on this host.  all i see is this: http://pastebin.com/UERQ4Ces20:34
OerHeksKingsQuest, reversing proposed is tricky, but can be done http://askubuntu.com/questions/768849/how-to-reverse-proposed-channel-package-upgrade20:34
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OerHeksKingsQuest, especially with any ppa involved, then i would say reinstall20:35
anonumm20:38
anonso I installed via the LiveUSB and apparently that fixed the issue20:38
anonnow to just get Clover to take over as my BL and I should be fine20:38
tomreyn_ramok: i assume this mesos wasn't an ubuntu package?20:39
_ramoktomreyn: it was20:39
_ramok *** 1.0.1-2.0.94.ubuntu1604 50020:39
_ramok        500 http://repos.mesosphere.com/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 Packages20:39
_ramok        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status20:39
tomreyn_ramok: well that's a third party package.20:39
tomreyn_ramok: does this exist? /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages20:40
guillekhola20:41
tomreynhi guillek20:41
_ramoktomreyn:  no, but /usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/20:41
tomreyn_ramok: sudo mv /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages; sudo apt-get -f install20:44
_ramoktomreyn: worked... thanks!20:46
tomreyn_ramok: by the way, there is also #ubuntu-de in case you prefer to chat in your native language20:46
_ramoktomreyn: hehe, thanks, english should be fine, or was it too bad?20:46
anonand I fixed it all20:47
tomreyn_ramok: not at all, i didnt notice except for the german language output on th epastebin20:47
_ramokah... no worries, english is fine, but thanks anyway20:48
nabblettomreyn: i don't even knwo anymore... win 10 won't install, ubuntu won't install... win8? no problem.20:48
anonbooting Mac OS X to test boot, then will confirm Win10 & Ubuntu (again).20:48
anonAppreciate everything guys'20:48
anon<320:48
tomreynnabblet: did it work in the past?20:49
tomreynnabblet: is this a new system? what is it anyways?20:49
tomreynnabblet: also, did you try the dmesg hint i provided?20:50
tomreynto get help with your OS independent boot issues, i suggest talking to folks in ##hardware20:51
jlucdoes dmesg provide boot-time logs ?20:54
jlucor all sort of logs ?20:54
tomreynkernel specific logs20:55
nabblettomreyn: actually it is not my computer but a friends but i got interested after he explained the issue to me. this is the second evening we were working on this. Everything started with a harmles win10 reset/reinstall. thuis must have messed up his install.20:55
geniijluc: Boot log and stuff like when you plug/unplug devices while the machine is running20:55
OerHekswith systemd>  systemd-analyze plot > filename.svg  # gives a nice plot20:55
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OerHeksor > journalctl --since=today20:55
tomreynhe's still in the installation phase, though20:56
nabblettomreyn: i just got ubuntu into play because i wanted a "second opinion"... you know, maybe sometime bekomes obvious. but instead it became even weirder since ubuntu seemed to lack the install option O.o20:56
tomreyni see20:58
tomreynwell you have received a bunch of suggestions.20:58
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Bashing-omnabblet: Consider; If Windows is Bios and using all 4 primary partitions, then ubuntu will require the drive to be re-paritioned to accomadate a additional install on the drive . If this is UEFI and a single drive, then ubuntu also will have to be installed in UEFI mode .21:01
nabbletBashing-om: thanks for the hint, i am aware of that. Also it turns out that this laptop is one of the el-cheapo kind, with a slightly dumbed down bios and other "treats",21:07
anonso getting my Ubuntu to work killed my Win10 boot21:08
anongod dammit21:08
Bashing-omnabblet: What does ' sudo parted -l ' say about the drives - from a liveDVD(USB) ?21:09
veterHello, how to take permission on second HDD in my laptop, that i can work with him like my home dir? http://storage4.static.itmages.com/i/16/1027/h_1477602893_3132836_4cdaa360b5.png21:14
nabbletBashing-om: can't say, he's in the process of installing win8 now. He needs to have a usable laptop asap. as i said I just used ubuntu for reference/toubleshooting.21:14
nabbletsince this hole incidence is so odd...21:14
Bashing-omnabblet: K .21:14
nabbletBashing-om: oh, i can say. It was efi, the windows reserved partition, 3 ntfs and 1 fat partition. gpt partitiontable21:15
nabblethave a screenshot of it21:15
nabbletso i thought the hdd is probably fine (hardware-wise)21:16
peeps[lappy]where can I disable a service so that it no longer starts upon booting21:17
anonso I got Ubuntu to not only boot but to boot from Clover21:21
anonbut now my Win10 won't boot21:21
anongod dammit lol21:21
anonreflashing my Win10 Setup USB to try and bootrec /rebuildbcd21:21
ootaniおはよう21:23
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marekw2143helllo21:32
marekw2143anybody here ?21:33
Bashing-ommarekw2143: I am not anybody .. but i am lurking here .21:34
jlucalong with 181421:34
marekw2143ok21:34
elias_aAnybodys body is not here.21:34
elias_amarekw2143: So ask.21:35
marekw2143I'm just wondering how can I use Huawei e3372 with Xbuntu21:35
marekw2143in networkManager i see "Mobile Broadband Not Enabled"21:35
marekw2143and it's grayed21:35
elias_amarekw2143: Is this of any help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/757638/can-not-connect-huawei-e3372-modem-on-ubuntu-15-10-please-help21:36
marekw2143elias_a, thanks21:37
marekw2143well, I didn't try it21:37
marekw2143how check mac address ?21:37
vetermarekw2143: ifconfig21:37
marekw2143ok, so I have wlp2s0 , that's probably wifi21:38
marekw2143it's possible that modbile modem is named enp1s0 ?21:39
arann./help21:40
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someone235Hi, my touchpad scroll doesn't work. Someone knows how to fix this?21:43
MTecknologyWhen there's a crash and you get a kernel dump in /var/crash/<date>/dump.<date>, how can that file be read? I'm trying to find a non-stripped vmlinux, but I'm failing.21:44
marekw2143elias_a, well, i've created one21:45
marekw2143but I don't see it in NM21:45
TortillionHello. Sorry for bothering you again but I have a question. I want to run the command $ xinput -set-prop "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint Stick" "Device Enabled" 0 at startup, so I  did $ sudo crontab -e and used nano to put in @reboot xinput -set-prop "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint Stick" "Device Enabled" 0 . But it is not working and when I do sudo crontab -e again the command is gone even though I saved it?21:48
amdhello21:49
TortillionHello.21:49
amdcan i ask ya sth?21:50
elias_aamd: Shoot!21:50
TortillionWell, I just got Linux yesterday, so I probably don't know.21:50
TortillionWhat is it?21:50
amdhave amd 6670. previous ubunto release i could not use. Now can i use yakkity yak?21:50
TortillionHmmm.21:51
TortillionWell I am not sure.21:51
amdah21:51
amdi am sad'21:51
elias_amarekw2143: might be one of those flipflop devices.21:51
naccTortillion: no need to answer if you don't know :)21:51
TortillionOh.21:51
naccTortillion: is your root crontab empty?21:51
marekw2143elias_a, flipflop ?21:51
TortillionIt says21:51
naccTortillion: use a pastebin, don't paste in the channel21:52
TortillionI know.21:52
amdthank you mate'21:52
elias_amarekw2143: flipflop changes mode from usb memory stick to 3g modem.21:52
TortillionIt just has comments saying how to use crontab21:52
elias_amarekw2143: Two functionsa.21:52
elias_a-a21:52
marekw2143elias_a, yes, after lsusb i see: Bus 001 Device 012: ID 12d1:1506 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. Modem/Networkcard21:53
marekw2143then I think it works in modem mode21:53
elias_amarekw2143: Check this: http://mlkushan.blogspot.fi/2016/05/huawei-e3372-modem-not-working-with.html21:53
marekw2143what ?21:54
marekw2143I thought it will somehow manage to work21:54
elias_amarekw2143: Modeswitch is the key word for handling the device properly.21:54
elias_amarekw2143: It will. You'll just have to do some magic. :)21:55
marekw2143no magic21:55
marekw2143configuration :)21:55
marekw2143but21:55
marekw2143I've added rule as described in link you've pasted elias_a21:57
elias_amarekw2143: And?21:57
marekw2143lsusb still  shows: Bus 001 Device 014: ID 12d1:1506 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. Modem/Networkcard21:58
marekw2143 21:58
marekw2143I can create connection in "NetworkManager"21:58
elias_amarekw2143: Well that is correct.21:58
marekw2143but still see "Mobile Broadband not enabled" and its grayed21:58
marekw2143and the latter is the problem21:58
elias_amarekw2143: sudo service network-manager restart21:59
marekw2143ok, I'll do that21:59
marekw2143for some moment I'll be offline :)21:59
wolf__hi21:59
marekw2143elias_a, it's still grayed21:59
wolf__hi21:59
marekw2143maybe I should use wvdial adviced on ##linux22:00
veterhow to take root permission for mount HDD to a user?22:00
elias_amarekw2143: I'd not use wvdial. It is a pain in the butt.22:01
hippybearvisudo?22:01
wolf__who can help me22:01
hippybearisnt that still in ubuntu?22:01
armanhi22:01
hippybearveter, edit the visudo22:01
elias_amarekw2143: Eject the stick and plug in again.22:01
iseneHow do I intercept the event of closing my laptop lid and run a script on close and open?22:01
Bashing-om!ask | wolf__22:01
ubottuwolf__: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:01
armansalam dustan :)22:02
armanirani darim?22:02
Blue1veter: the user would need root permission (sudo for example) to mount a device.  Such as:  sudo mount /dev/sdax /mnt      that uses the predefined system mount point22:02
wolf__need help22:03
Bashing-omwolf__: ^^ we can not help if you do not state the issue .22:04
PriorityMailuk*22:04
john_ramboI cant update .... This is the problem https://paste.ubuntu.com/23390307/22:05
Blue1john_rambo: did you try a:  sudo apt-get -f install22:06
veterBlue1: i need to use big partition on second HDD for media files, video downloading without entering root pwd.22:06
Blue1veter: yeah sudo will do that for you22:06
iseneHow do I intercept the event of closing my laptop lid and run a script on close and open? ... anyone?22:06
john_ramboBlue1: Same thing22:07
Blue1veter: as long as the user is part of /etc/group  --22:07
Blue1john_rambo: usually a forbidden error means you do NOT have permission22:07
elias_amarekw2143: I have to hit the bed now. Hope you will fix it.22:08
john_ramboBlue1: Should I try a different mirror ?22:08
Blue1john_rambo: you did to a sudo apt-get update before running the upgrade, correct?22:08
john_ramboBlue1: Yes22:08
Blue1john_rambo: you may have too -- yes - that is what the error is saying - you don't have permission to access.  That is not a repo I am familiar with.22:09
john_ramboBlue1: OKay22:09
marekw2143elias_a, thanks for help22:10
marekw2143I hope too22:10
marekw2143have good sleep !22:10
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FaizanHi. Not sure if this is the correct place to ask about a little help regarding iptables setup?22:10
Blue1veter: find the line in /etc/group that looks like:  sudo:x:27:YourNameHere -- add the user(s) then logout/back in again to re-read /etc/group -- you can also use sudoers22:11
SchrodingersScat!ask | Faizan22:11
ubottuFaizan: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:11
Blue1veter: that will then allow a user to mount/manage devices without being root22:12
Bashing-omFaizan: If in respect to 'buntu , ues ask here . omeone woll know .22:12
FaizanOkay but isn't it better to make sure rather than being told to go to another channel?22:12
iseneJust ask the question - instead of asking to ask a question and then asking if the asking of a question wouldn't be the right thing to do, etc22:15
iseneIf you're very lucky, then someone will offer help22:15
_ramokis someone running an haproxy 1.6.9 with an ssl certificate? i'm running into trouble because it always tells me [ALERT] 300/220701 (41) : parsing [/tmp/tmpupsu_74v:72] : 'bind *:443' : unable to load SSL private key from PEM file '/opt/haproxy/certs/awe.felsdf.io.pem'. [ALERT] 300/220701 (41) : Error(s) found in configuration file : /tmp/tmpupsu_74v  and i'm not sure what else to do. i've concatenated the .pem file in the order cert, key, chain22:15
FaizanOkay, so I'm setting up ip tables to accept from only ports 22, 80, and reject everything else. I've managed that, and now I'm trying to create a ruleset that limits connections to ssh so that no IP can send more than 15 connection attemps each minute. This, I'm having trouble with22:15
tgm4883Faizan: no not really22:15
Blue1Faizan: just ask the question.  it is easier for all.  If another channel would service your needs better, people can best guide you, rather then playing 20 questions.22:15
FaizanFair enough guys. I've asked the question above :)22:16
Blue1i just looked at my iptables -- I do port redirection -- it's been so long since I've done this.22:18
tewardFaizan: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/139285/limit-max-connections-per-ip-address-and-new-connections-per-second-with-iptable22:19
cian-w_hey22:19
someone235Hi, my touchpad scroll doesn't work. Someone knows how to fix this?22:19
tewardFaizan: you have to add a replacement rule for port 22 and then remove the older port 22 allow rule22:19
Faizanhmm22:20
Faizanhttp://pastebin.com/1u1sjYDS - I wrote something like that just now22:20
FaizanBut amn't sure how I could test it22:20
ek0rver irc.twitch.tv22:20
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anonJust wanted to thank everybody that helped me. I finally got my triple boot set up completely done with everything bootable and running perfect. OS X, windows 10, Ubuntu. Yay22:21
Wulfsomeone235: how do you want to scroll it?22:22
Wulfsomeone235: xinput set-prop 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad' 'Synaptics Edge Scrolling' 1, 1, 122:22
someone235Wulf, with two fingers22:23
Wulfsomeone235: oh, that one. Maybe some other option22:23
someone235Wulf, I'm not sure what device to choose here: http://pastie.org/private/o2qtkzewdt9tryo7rtm68q22:28
someone235"Virtual core pointer"?22:28
ivankoophello22:31
veterBlue1 great men!22:40
Dotanukiwow this channel is rich of people22:41
nomicz.z.z22:43
TortillionHello. Sorry for bothering you again but I have a question. I want to run the command $ xinput -set-prop "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint Stick" "Device Enabled" 0 at startup, so I  did $ sudo crontab -e and used nano to put in @reboot xinput -set-prop "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint Stick" "Device Enabled" 0 . But it is not working and when I do sudo crontab -e again the command is gone even though I saved it?22:44
juanonymousi have downloaded utorrent as a torrent client for ubuntu but each time i get to finish a download, i have to download it again with transmission22:44
juanonymousis there a way to disable this transmission?22:44
nabbletBashing-om: thanks for your interest!22:45
nabblettomreyn: thank you for your help22:45
someone235Wulf, I don't have this option at any listed device22:46
nomicz.22:50
TameikiA que coucou !22:50
TameikiÀ travers mes idées à la con, je me suis demandé: Vu qu'il existe des modem en PCI-e, est-il possible d'utiliser un serveur Linux comme box internet. La réponse est "oui" (via le paquet pppoe), mais je ne trouve que des modem 56k. Il faut utiliser quoi pour l'ADSL2+ ?22:51
dtcrshr!fr22:51
ubottuNous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.22:51
mabusI want to install a custom compiled version of openssl. how can i do so without clobbering everything that currently depends on it such as ubuntu-server* ?22:51
TameikiErrr22:51
TameikiSry, wrong window :x22:52
dtcrshrnp22:52
naccmabus: why do you want to do this?22:52
mabusdont really need help on the openssl front just what the usual process with apt is22:52
mabusnacc: i need to test that my servers do not support sslv2, so counter intuitively i need support to initiate sslv2 connections22:53
mabusto verify my other systems can't22:53
naccmabus: if you absolutely know what you're doing, I'd just build it in a PPA22:53
mabusokay thanks, how does apt manage priority of which package to install22:53
naccmabus: well, i'd suggest using proper versioning22:54
naccmabus: rather than pinning to your ppa, as that will lead to you missing security updates, i assume22:54
naccmabus: but you might read through `man apt_preferences`22:54
mabuswhat do you mean by using proper versioning? I'm kind of weak in package management/typical development practices22:55
mabuslike downloading each new release of openssl when it comes out and creating a new version by tagging it with -sslv2support or something?22:55
mabusi will read man apt_preferences for sure though, appreciate the informatino22:56
_ramokhey22:56
_ramokhow can i bring the content of an certificate file into one single line with a unix command?22:56
naccmabus: you don't want your version to be after the next published version for a package, so let's ubuntu is shipping version 3, you might make yours version 4~mabus which says that antyhing that sorts after 4~mabus (~ puts yours before 4 itself) will take precedence22:57
maxiideapadhey guys22:57
shahid_hi22:59
mabusnacc: okay great makes sense - when does this versioning come into play? when creating a ppa? is that definitely the only right way to do things? i do only have 3 systems I need to patch and I don't own any other system to stand up as a ppa but could do if requried22:59
naccmabus: you can also build the packages locally, but that assumes you know how :)23:00
naccmabus: i'm not sure what is best for your particular environment23:00
mabusi can rebuild a package i just get scared when purging it wants to delete ubuntu-server*23:00
mabusso i dont know whats the usual process for replacing a package things depend on like that23:00
naccright, so you wouldn't ever purge it, you would just change what version is installed23:00
naccwhere your version only has one change23:00
rocket__all works fine but the workspaces crash sometimes23:01
naccbut you don't know want to miss out on security fixes, so i think you want  to take any ubuntu updates, if they happen, and then redo your changes on top23:01
rocket__is that normal?23:01
rocket__they seem to be a bit buggy23:01
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mabusnacc: ok so if i build a deb package for openssl with my fixes23:03
lbracherHi there! I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 with Unity and I'm having some issues. First, all window captions, all file names on nautilus and all menus where letterless. I rebooted and now I'm without mouse pointer. I tried modprobe -r psmouse && modprobe psmouse as well as service lightdm restart and using gsettings, but none worked. Could you help me with this issue? Thanks in advance! :)23:04
mabus(i can take responsibility to stay on top of openssl updates, security is our biz actually - def wont hold you responsible :))23:04
mabusbut if i install that with dpkg -i its installed over the existing version and i'm good? what do i do to rebuild things against that updated version?23:04
naccmabus: what do you want to rebuild?23:05
mabussslscan as an example23:05
mabusi think i might need to rebuild nmap too im not sure if it has built in ssl libraries or relies on system23:05
mabus(we are a security company i'm not a bad guy)23:06
rocket__im the only one who has issues with work spaces?23:06
naccmabus: you would need to rebuild those pacakges too, which is another reason to maybe use a ppa to do so23:07
FaizanIf I have a few pc's, inlcuding alice and bob, how can I configure my iptables so that only alice can ssh into bob, and no one else can ssh into bob?23:07
TortillionHello. Sorry for bothering you again but I have a question. I want to run the command $ xinput -set-prop "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint Stick" "Device Enabled" 0 at startup, so I  did $ sudo crontab -e and used nano to put in @reboot xinput -set-prop "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint Stick" "Device Enabled" 0 . But it is not working and when I do sudo crontab -e again the command is gone even though I saved it?23:08
naccTortillion: ignore the xinput bit, try to edit the crontab with any old command see if it stays saved23:10
naccTortillion: pastebin the exact output23:10
mabusnacc: ill definitely suggest a ppa as a desirable future step - but i also just had to suggest the admin remove a script that creates the priv/pub keypair for you to log into this server, on the same server. just striving for functionality today, security is a constant fight23:10
RarrikinsTortillion: You can use `sudo crontab -l` to view it before and after.23:10
KingsQuestthats a nice Alps sticks23:11
naccmabus: understood23:11
mabusi guess that makes sense though, manually compile all packages that require my patched openssl23:11
mabusbecause otherwise none of the binaries you have are linked to it and all ubuntu is doing is downloading binaries23:11
TortillionI will.23:12
TortillionThank you23:12
mabusthanks for your help nacc23:12
naccmabus: right, it will only update the libs, it won't rebuild on its own23:12
mabusi was just worried about clobbering something in the meanwhile23:12
naccmabus: np, you may want to ask in #ubuntu-server or even possibly #ubuntu-devel (some of the security folks are probably there), and they may have better insight23:12
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mabuswhen i install my updated version with dpkg, does that mean the repo version stays installed as well23:13
mabusand all the things i didnt recompile are using that separate library?23:13
newscripteralright guys. What's better? Xubuntu or Ubuntu MATE?23:13
naccnewscripter: not really ontopic for the support channel23:14
naccnewscripter: whatever you prefer is better for you23:14
newscriptersorry, which channel would be more appropriate?23:14
naccnewscripter: probably #ubuntu-offtopic23:14
newscripterthank you23:14
naccmabus: the repo version is replaced23:14
naccmabus: everything in the system that will load libssl will use the one from your library23:15
Tortillionhttp://pastebin.com/rVUpGehs23:15
naccmabus: openssl is a source package, which produces multiple binary packages23:15
TortillionAnd crontab -l says no crontab for Tortillion23:15
naccmabus: libssl is used at runtime by applications, libssl-dev is used at build-time23:15
naccTortillion: it would of course be `sudo crontab -l`, you're trying to edit the root user's crontab23:15
TortillionI saved it, then exited crontab, then reentered crontab thats the pastebin23:16
TortillionI triedthat23:16
TortillionSays no crontab for root23:16
mabusnacc: wait if everything installed uses my new library why do i need to recompile things that depend on it? because they may have been ./configured with -no-sslv2?23:16
FaizanIf I have a few pc's, inlcuding alice and bob, how can I configure my iptables so that only alice can ssh into bob, and no one else can ssh into bob?23:17
naccmabus: you were the one that suggested you need to rebuild packages :)23:17
mabusheh fair enough23:17
naccmabus: if all you need is library support, just rebuilding openssl shoudl be sufficient23:17
orlockFaizan: deny everything, alllow alice?23:18
naccmabus: i note that several packages have build-dependencies against libssl-dev, so if turning on sslv2 changes headers or something, you might get different binaries23:18
Faizanyeah orlock23:18
RarrikinsTortillion: Do you exit the editor properly after saving?23:18
TortillionYes23:19
TortillionI click control O23:19
TortillionThen control X23:19
naccTortillion: i note that your pastebin shows 23 lines in the crontab, but your paste doesn't show all 23 lines23:19
TortillionReally?23:19
naccTortillion: please use `sudo crontab -l`23:20
mabusnacc: hmm okay, i guess ill try on a vm or something now, still a bit nervous23:20
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TortillionI typed in 'sudo crontab -l'23:20
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TortillionIt says:23:20
Tortillionno crontab for root23:20
TortillionThats all it says23:21
naccTortillion: then I don't believe it was properly saved earlier, but dont' know why23:21
TortillionHmmm.23:21
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TortillionI see this when typing crontab -e23:22
RarrikinsTortillion: You can copy one of the files in /etc/cron.d23:22
Tortillionno crontab for tortillion - using an empty one23:22
naccTortillion: or you could edit /etc/crontab, iirc23:22
RarrikinsTortillion: Copy it to a new file in /etc/cron.d, then edit it.23:22
TortillionGot it23:22
TortillionThanks.23:22
RarrikinsTortillion: Remember to keep root in the line as the user to execute the command.23:23
ubuntu558hello! im trying to install ubuntu but i keep getting following errors: input/output error during write on dev/sda and error fsyncin/closing /dev/sda:input/output. what can i do?23:23
TortillionSo I do sudo -i?23:23
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RarrikinsTortillion: Yes.23:23
TortillionGot it23:23
TortillionThanks23:23
RarrikinsTortillion: No problem.23:23
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lbracherxset dpms force off didn't worked in my case as well23:24
maxiideapadhey whats a good chat?23:24
maxiideapadother then this23:25
maxiideapadhey im selling puter23:25
lbracherAnybody knows this mouse pointer issue?23:26
TortillionIbracher, what is the error?23:28
TortillionI had this error where the mouse moved by itself.23:29
BrisrI've got a webpage using a bash script/ wget. How can I remove the images from the html?23:30
lbracherTortillion, the mouse pointer disappeared. Even reboot doesn't work to get it back.23:31
maxiideapaddamn23:31
maxiideapadthis is so dumb23:31
lbracherI tried to go to virtual consoles, used xset, gsettings, modprobe, etc23:31
lbracherNothing works23:31
maxiideapadive also been up 2 days23:31
nacc!ot | maxiideapad23:32
ubottumaxiideapad: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!23:32
TortillionIbracher:  I don't know how to fix that, sorry. I only know how to fix it randomly moving everyware.23:32
TortillionRarrikins: When trying to create a new file in /etc/cron.d it says permission denied23:33
lbracherTortillion, me neither. I'm stuck. And unfortunately there are some apps on Ubuntu that needs the mouse.23:33
naccTortillion: use sudo23:33
naccTortillion: it is expected, I think, that you know when to use sudo or not, if you are trying to edit a system crontab (or root's)23:33
TortillionWell some solution I just found on the internet, is to press Ctrl+Alt+F1 , which brings you into a fullscreen terminal, and then Ctrl+Alt+F7 .23:36
TortillionOh thank you, sorry for my ignorance, nacc23:37
TortillionI should think before.23:37
TortillionSorry for wasting your  time23:37
konradosOK, so now I'll try :) I have two disks. I've heard this is possible (besides internets somehow confirm this) that it's possible to keep the system on one disk, and swap file on the other. But is this reasonable? Let's take two scenarios, in the first one I believe it makes sense. Let's say the swap file is on one disk: Scenario #1. I use a browser to eeee browse the web, now, when there are images on one of them, a browser loads them23:41
konradosinto memory obviously but also keeps it on disk as a cache, in the same moment, I'm out of RAM, so the SWAP gets in, and the system puts the image on the same disk in swap, right? So in this scenario, having a swap file on a separate disk would be reasonable, right? But what about scenario #2. - I'm working on a project, let's say in some text editor and refresh the page in a browser from time to time (no images) - I'm also out of RAM,23:41
konradosbut will keeping swap file on separate disk help me in any way?23:41
konradosOh, I didn't realized it's so long...23:42
nacckonrados: honestly, it feels like overthinking it23:44
nacckonrados: i haven't had a swap partition in years23:44
konradosI have not too much memory, but an additional, unnecessary disk, so I thought, that maybe I'll use it somehow, nacc ...23:45
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