[06:57] jbicha, winter is over, but I am still up in the mountains [06:58] jbicha, well the reason we split it out was that at the time we didnt want it seeded at the time [06:58] so long as its working well still, then I am fine with that. [07:01] I've not really had a chance to run since a while [07:01] ^run wayland [07:02] new office printer -> System Preferences sees it but fails to add it -> that would be because system-config-printer-gnome is not installed !?!? [07:02] which package is supposed to pull it in? [07:03] hmm, gnome-control-center Recommends it, so why isn't it installed? [07:04] curious how every desktop metapackage (ubuntu-desktop, ubutnu-mate-desktop, xubuntu-desktop, ...) also recommend it, but ubuntu-gnome-desktip doesn't [07:32] waaaait a second [07:33] /var/log/dpkg.log suggests I had system-config-printer-gnome installed, just an older version? [07:34] that being 1.5.7+20160212-0ubuntu2 [07:34] but I'm sure I checked apt-cache policy and it wasn't installed [07:34] hmm maybe dpkg.log says that about packages that were removed prior, with just conffiles remaining [07:35] did an upgrade remove this package, or maybe ppa-purge? [07:38] it was in the middle of my do-release-upgrade run, according to the timestamp [07:57] mgedmin, system-config-gnome was seeded again in yakkety [07:57] ^printer [07:57] "seeded" means "included on the install iso", yes? [07:57] yes [07:57] and upgrades [07:58] there was some dbus? daemon put into that package by debian that is required for g-c-c printers to work [07:58] I don't know what to say -- I ran 'sudo do-release-upgade' (didn't want the GUI upgrade after the lock screen pain I suffered during wily -> xenial) and as system-config-pronter-gnome was removed halfway though the upgrade, according to dpkg.log timestamps [07:59] maybe I should've used --mode=desktop [10:43] mgedmin: I'm curious, when did you do the yakkety upgrade? [10:45] this by the way is the reason why metapackages have so many things as Depends instead of Recommends because recommends can get accidentally removed and break things [10:47] Oct 15 [10:49] https://dpaste.de/arjz ("Priklauso" is "Depends" in lt_LT) [10:51] mgedmin: could you file a bug, I suggest against ubuntu-release-upgrader if s-c-p-gnome got removed during do-release-upgrade [10:55] darkxst: do you have one of those dual-gpu laptops? [10:58] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1637466 [10:58] Ubuntu bug 1637466 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "do-release-upgrade removed system-config-printer-gnome during 16.04 -> 16.10 upgrade" [Undecided,New] === ccar_away is now known as ccarella === freyes__ is now known as freyes