[00:08] <Kangarooo> @ikonia @wafflejock lubuntu 64bit uses a lot more ram 270 i think it was and now i reinstalled to 32 bit and uses 119 Ram :D With all drivers and updates both tests.
[00:09] <Kangarooo> @ikonia @wafflejock witch of free -m i need to check? Task Manager shows 119 and freem-m used + shared = 119
[00:12] <ootani> xubuntu is beter than kubuntu
[00:12] <ootani> better
[00:16] <usuario_> Hello
[00:17] <usuario_> I am a new user of Ubuntu mate
[00:18] <usuario_> and I was trying to install megadownloader
[00:18] <usuario_> but I got the message that python-central dependencies are missing or something like that :P
[00:19] <Bashing-om> !info megadownloader
[00:19] <Bashing-om> usuario_: ^^ details .
[00:20] <usuario_> Que es leavd??
[00:21] <usuario_> So, trying to install megadownloader on ubuntu mate is useless??
[00:22] <Rarrikins> usuario_: What is megadownloader?
[00:22] <Bashing-om> usuario_: We have no details to advise .. How are you attempting to install and on what release ?
[00:24] <usuario_> megadownloader is a download manager like Jdownloader
[00:24] <usuario_> but works better with Mega site
[00:26] <laheeb> hii all
[00:26] <usuario_> I downloaded a deb package
[00:27] <usuario_> megadownloader-0.4.deb
[00:27] <usuario_> Hi laheeb
[00:29] <usuario_> so, I used synaptic to install it but got an error message regarding python central
[00:34] <usuario_> So...
[00:37] <Rarrikins> usuario_: It looks like python-central last appeared in Precise (12.04).
[00:37] <usuario_> hummm
[00:38] <Rarrikins> usuario_: Unfortunately, 12.04 is due to die off early next year.
[00:39] <Rarrikins> usuario_: It looks like there's a megatools package. It's command-line only, though.
[00:40] <Rarrikins> usuario_: If you want the megatools package, just open a terminal, and run `sudo apt update; sudo apt install megatools`
[00:40] <usuario_> what is megatools?
[00:40] <Rarrikins> usuario_: It's a command line program for accessing Mega. You can download with it.
[00:41] <debkad> !info megatools
[00:42] <usuario_> so, all downloads should managed by terminal?
[00:42] <Rarrikins> usuario_: If you use megatools, yes.
[00:43] <usuario_> ok
[00:46] <usuario_> thanks for the advice
[00:53] <usuario_> successfully installed megatools. Now, How do I use it?
[01:20] <fajarlaksono> i have problem with ubuntu 16.04. sometime when i plug my flashdisc every single windows stuck, even my mouse
[01:20] <fajarlaksono> is that from mypc or ubuntu ?
[01:21] <fajarlaksono> anybody can online here ?
[01:21] <nedved> Hi guys
[01:21] <fajarlaksono> hi
[01:22] <fajarlaksono> i have problem with ubuntu 16.04. sometime when i plug my flashdisc every single windows stuck, even my mous
[01:22] <nedved> well, i have problem here with my audio HDMI - 00:03.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Audio Controller [8086:160c] (rev 09)
[01:23] <nedved> no sound, i try maybe everything
[01:26] <Bray90820> Anyone wanna help me with a kernel panic I get every time I use a browser on my surface 3 non pro with ubuntu 16.10
[01:26] <Bray90820> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/IMAG0104.jpg
[01:26] <Wulf> Bray90820: does it work with lynx?
[01:26] <Bray90820> Wulf: What do you mean lynx?
[01:27] <nedved> https://ibin.co/2zySlxhaGDAL.png - no sound!! please help
[01:27] <Wulf> Bray90820: lynx is a web browser
[01:27] <Bray90820> Wulf: I will install it and see
[01:27] <Wulf> nedved: aplay -l
[01:27] <nedved> Wulf: http://pastebin.com/SM6feud5
[01:27] <Bray90820> But so far I have tried firefox and chrome and both freeze
[01:28] <nedved> Wulf: i try speaker-test -c 2 -r 48000 -D hw:0,3 no go
[01:28] <Wulf> nedved: select the Áudio interno
[01:28] <Wulf> nedved: HDMI sometimes just doesn't work
[01:28] <nedved> Wulf: work, problem only hdmi
[01:29] <nedved> Wulf: my wife back to windows kkkk , please help :-p
[01:30] <fajarlaksono> i have problem with ubuntu 16.04. sometime when i plug my flashdisc every single windows stuck, even my mous
[01:30] <fajarlaksono> is that from mypc or ubuntu ?
[01:31] <Wulf> nedved: I could give an advice here. But I think that would be very illegal.
[01:31] <batbrains> r?
[01:32] <nedved> Wulf: :-/
[01:33] <Bray90820> Wulf: I have no idea how to navigate through lynx but if it is terminal only I would assume it would work because all other web access works in the terminal
[01:33] <nedved> https://ibin.co/2zySlxhaGDAL.png - no sound!! please help
[01:34] <Wulf> Bray90820: so web browser is not the problem. Must be a GUI thing :)
[01:34] <Wulf> Bray90820: what happens if you open e.g. libreoffice?
[01:34] <de-facto> Bray90820 did you try chromium with --disable-gpu  --no-experiments   ?
[01:35] <Bashing-om> !sound | nedved
[01:35] <de-facto> Bray90820 you can add those in  /etc/chromium-browser/default under CHROMIUM_FLAGS
[01:35] <Bray90820> Wulf: The reason I don't think it's a gui issue is because firefox and chrome both work if I use the usb wifi card I have
[01:36] <Wulf> Bray90820: lynx https://www.google.com/
[01:36] <Wulf> Bray90820: you can use cursor keys and return etc. to move around
[01:37] <Bray90820> Also the tablet just crashed when trying to load the software center
[01:38] <de-facto> Bray90820 if you have a phone you can ssh in your box (android Termux or ConnectBot) and issue a "dmesg -wH"  to see the last logs maybe
[01:38] <de-facto> that is if your network works ofc
[01:39] <Bray90820> de-facto: I can't ssh after it crashes but I could just leave it running on top and show you what happened when it crashes
[01:39] <de-facto> you cant access ttys anymore to get more info about the crash reason?
[01:40] <Bray90820> Not after it freezes
[01:40] <Bray90820> When it freezes it's a complete kernel panic
[01:43] <elisa87> I have a bunch of files like this gORCLRF.jpeg.txt  Kk96zTh.jpeg.txt  ogUADwZ.jpeg.txt  SCLzhRh.jpeg.txt  w6WINvD.jpeg.txt how can I remove the .jpeg from their name?
[01:45] <Bray90820> de-facto: Nope it froze before it showed the complete error
[01:45] <Bray90820> This is the most complete thing I have
[01:45] <Bray90820> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/IMAG0104.jpg
[01:47] <SchrodingersScat> elisa87: for i in *.jpeg.txt ; do echo "${i/.jpeg/}" ; done
[01:47] <SchrodingersScat> elisa87: although, you can use mv "$i" "${i/.jpeg/}" instead of the echo to actually move them, or I guess rename regex is probably just as simple
[01:48] <elisa87> SchrodingersScat: can you please give a complete final answer for renaming them? I am not bash savvy
[01:48] <SchrodingersScat> elisa87: something like, rename 's/\.jpeg//g' *.jpeg.txt
[01:49] <de-facto> Bray90820 hmm might be wifi driver indeed, did you look for alternatives for it? like newer versions or other wifi stack?
[01:49] <Bray90820> I have looked all over the place and nothing has worked
[01:49] <Bray90820> de-facto:
[01:50] <elisa87> rename 's/\.jpeg//g' *.jpeg.txt worked like a charm thanks SchrodingersScat
[01:50] <SchrodingersScat> elisa87: charms don't work, this worked much better than a charm.  Good luck out there, have fun.
[01:51] <de-facto> Bray90820 did you change the wifi driver stack for that wifi? just curious if its a general problem in that stack or if the bug sticks to a particular version of it maybe
[01:51] <Bray90820> I did not change it
[01:51] <SchrodingersScat> the only time you would really need the bash version would be if you needed that to be recursive, afaik
[01:51] <Bray90820> I don't really even know what that means
[01:52] <MuTU> zone_oke
[01:52] <ada__> still no sound. :-(
[01:52] <ada__> https://ibin.co/2zyaJfGV1DhK.png
[01:52] <de-facto> Bray90820 because if for example you would change it to another stack or version and it works you can be sure its causing the problem then. does it just occur with browsers or when you access the network in another way too?
[01:53] <nedved> https://ibin.co/2zyaJfGV1DhK.png anyone?
[01:53] <nedved> https://ibin.co/2zyaJfGV1DhK.png anyone?;-(
[01:53]  * ioannis_ receives a trillion dollars
[01:53] <Bray90820> de-facto: I wouldn't even know where to begin with that
[01:53] <orlock> Zimbabwe dollars?
[01:54] <ioannis_> wjat
[01:54] <Bray90820> de-facto: I can access the network in a terminal but it has frozen with firefox chrome and the ubuntu software center
[01:54] <ioannis_> orlock: hil
[01:55] <de-facto> Bray90820 so i guess it would freeze too while using it from terminal after you produce some network load from there (e.g. download ubuntu iso with wget or such)
[01:55] <vfw> nedved: F6
[01:56] <nedved> vfw: show me internal  and hdmi
[01:56] <nedved> vfw: internal work... only hdmi my problem :-(
[01:56] <elisa87> I have a bunch of files that possibly 10% of them are empty, how can I detect all empty files?
[01:57] <Wulf> elisa87: find
[01:57] <de-facto> Bray90820 well you can try to find out which exact WiFi chip you have and google for alternative driver versions (they probably came with your kernel) for it. Problem is if you use non default drivers its not really supported then (like from PPAs or maybe from aircrack recommendations).
[01:57] <Bray90820> de-facto: I'll check if you have a wget link for me
[01:57] <Wulf> elisa87: find . -size 0
[01:57] <de-facto> Bray90820 http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.10/ubuntu-16.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[01:57] <vfw> nedved: Oh, ok
[01:58] <de-facto> Bray90820 from terminal:  wget 'http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.10/ubuntu-16.10-desktop-amd64.iso'
[01:58] <nedved> vfw: so? :-)
[01:58] <vfw> nedved: I don't know.
[01:58] <nedved> vfw: okay bro
[01:59] <SchrodingersScat> elisa87: and if you want to delete them find has -delete, I use find . -size 0 -delete     ##sometimes, but be careful because that's recursive and will delete things.
[01:59] <elisa87> $ find . -type f -empty | wc -l
[01:59] <elisa87> thanks
[02:00] <Bray90820> de-facto: Searched many times for drivers the only thing I find is an old custom kernel which I can't use because it has no touch screen or audio support
[02:00] <Bray90820> https://launchpad.net/~tigerite/+archive/ubuntu/kernel
[02:02] <Bray90820> de-facto: It seems like it's not freezing with wget but I will eat and give it time to download
[02:02] <Bray90820> see you in a little bit
[02:03] <de-facto> hmm btw which wifi chip you got there?
[02:04] <elisa87> SchrodingersScat:  can you please have a look http://pastebin.com/LbGwGYhm I can explain further if my explanation is not very obvious
[02:04] <salamanderrake> I removed some ppas, is there a way to purge apps that were installed via the ppas?
[02:04] <mikubuntu> is 3.0 usb compatible with everything ubuntu?
[02:06] <de-facto> Bray90820 can you post the result link from this command?     sudo lshw -C network | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:07] <SchrodingersScat> elisa87: so you just want to display them like that?
[02:08] <elisa87> right. I don't want to delete those files but I want to create a stat file that shows stuff like so :D
[02:08] <elisa87> SchrodingersScat:
[02:09] <aliendude5300> Hi, my brightness keys don't work on my laptop. How can I fix this?
[02:10] <aliendude5300> I think it's just a mapping issue
[02:10] <aliendude5300> Works in Windows.
[02:11] <aliendude5300> My laptop is an ASUS K501UX
[02:11] <Wulf> aliendude5300: do you have brightness control in your gui?
[02:11] <Wulf> aliendude5300: e.g. I can click on upper-right corner and control it
[02:11] <aliendude5300> It works under brighness & lock
[02:11] <aliendude5300> brightness*
[02:12] <aliendude5300> I just don't like opening up the settings application to change brightness
[02:12] <Wulf> aliendude5300: then go to your keyboard options and see if you can map your keys
[02:12] <Wulf> aliendude5300: or run `xev' in a shell and see if your keys work
[02:12] <SchrodingersScat> elisa87: this is my answer, for i in * ; do echo -n "$i"; cat "$i" | sed ':a;$!{N;s/\n/, /;ba;}' ; done
[02:12] <aliendude5300> I don't see the options in the available mappings
[02:13] <SchrodingersScat> elisa87: stole the creative part from here: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/132832/remove-all-the-new-lines-in-a-text-file-using-sed
[02:13] <aliendude5300> So, when I press the keys in xev, I don't see events triggered
[02:13] <elisa87> SchrodingersScat: http://askubuntu.com/questions/842653/creating-a-customized-stat-file-out-of-files-a-current-directory just thought to phrase my question better
[02:14] <aliendude5300> The same keys work in Windows. It does trigger events for the volume up/down
[02:14] <mikubuntu> can i make a 1 tb usb into a live stick with all persistent memory/storage?
[02:14]  * SchrodingersScat doesn't remember if there's a persistence limit or not
[02:14] <mikubuntu> are there any drawbacks to using such a very large stick?
[02:15] <Wulf> mikubuntu: 1 tb usb stick?
[02:15] <aliendude5300> Pretty sure you can do a full install on a 1tb USB
[02:15] <mikubuntu> Wulf: yeah for $11 online (plus) $4 shipping
[02:15] <Mordessin> Lol
[02:16] <mikubuntu> Wulf: reviews seem legit
[02:16] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu: THat's a scam. Don't buy it.
[02:16] <Wulf> mikubuntu: largest one I can see here is 512 GiB. Just 163€
[02:17] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: wulf well they seem to have a lot of them https://www.wish.com/c/577a84ec5c4a1b07d54536df
[02:17] <Mordessin> Add
[02:17] <mikubuntu> if you put in the search box usb you get pages and pages of them
[02:17] <aliendude5300> so, 99% of those are fake. They make tools to detect fake USB sticks.
[02:18] <aliendude5300> You WILL suffer data loss if you use a fake large capacity USB
[02:18] <elisa87> SchrodingersScat:  so for i in * ; do echo -n "$i"; cat "$i" | sed ':a;$!{N;s/\n/, /;ba;}' ; done > stat_file did something weird but without redirection worked fine
[02:18] <aliendude5300> you can fix the capacity though and get the ~4GB of actual storage.
[02:18] <elisa87> also I can't understand the sed part (for replacing I guess at all) SchrodingersScat
[02:18] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu: A common scam is to provide a 1 GiB flash module plus custom firmware to report itself as larger. After writing a certain amount of data, anything further will simply be lost.
[02:18] <mikubuntu> aliendude5300: never heard of it -- fake usb?
[02:19] <elisa87> how would you redirect that to  a file ? for i in * ; do echo -n "$i"; cat "$i" | sed ':a;$!{N;s/\n/, /;ba;}' ; done > stat_file SchrodingersScat
[02:19] <SchrodingersScat> elisa87: me either mostly, but I know that bit after \n/ is the part that's being substituted, it used to just be a space
[02:19] <aliendude5300> yes. it's a common scam. you can buy a drive like 64gb that's actually 2gb. after the first 2gb it writes over your old files to trick you. you lose data.
[02:19] <aliendude5300> shows fake capacity in your computer
[02:19] <aliendude5300> http://www.ebay.com/gds/How-to-repair-a-fake-USB-drive-pen-drive-/10000000010832144/g.html
[02:20] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu: Now that you know that that link is a scam, please don't post it in this channel again.
[02:20] <mikubuntu> wow, so maybe i'm better off buying a lexar at the local store
[02:20] <SchrodingersScat> elisa87: maybe some >> instead of > and inside the loop?  also consider consulting #bash because I'm not guaranteed to give sane answers
[02:21] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu: Definitely. THough there are probably places you can get better deals than your local store. ##hardware can probably help you there.
[02:21] <aliendude5300> much. your local store will sell you a real drive
[02:21] <aliendude5300> amazon.com -- the ones shipped and sold by amazon are a good bet too
[02:22] <aliendude5300> will be much cheaper than say best buy or fry's
[02:22] <mikubuntu> well, gotta get at least 20 gb for the 17.5 data i need to save off this box so i can finally fix it with a fresh install
[02:22] <cyanred> Hello.
[02:23] <cyanred> I want to search INSIDE the text of the files in a folder.
[02:23] <mikubuntu> and since i've never seen a 20gb i guess it will be 32
[02:23] <cyanred> When I search right now it's just searching the file names.
[02:23] <cyanred> Any ideas?
[02:25] <Jordan_U> cyanred: Are the files text files or libreoffice documents/PDFs/something else? Do you want a GUI solution or would a terminal based one be OK?
[02:25] <cyanred> Text.
[02:25] <cyanred> I'm using the file manager.
[02:25] <cyanred> GUI would be better.
[02:25] <cyanred> But why doesn't it by default allow me to search the text files?
[02:28] <nedved> hi guys be back
[02:28] <aliendude5300> mikubuntu, this is what a real 1tb usb costs: https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-DataTraveler-Predator-1TB-DTHXP30/dp/B00E65QM8O
[02:29] <Jordan_U> cyanred: In the terminal it's easy to do a one off, as long as you have a genral idea of where the file is so that you can limit the number of files that need to be searched: grep -Ri 'text to search for here' /path/to/search/in/
[02:29] <nedved> so.... i don know, but start system with linux-image-extra-4.4.0-45-generic lost hdmi sound... then, try bootup wih linux-image-extra-4.4.0-31-generic and hdmi sound is back!
[02:29] <nedved> thanks for all.
[02:29] <cyanred> Jordan_U, I'm not good with terminal.
[02:29] <cyanred> Do you have a GUI?
[02:30] <nedved> Wulf: hey
[02:30] <nedved> Wulf: so.... i don know, but start system with linux-image-extra-4.4.0-45-generic lost hdmi sound... then, try bootup wih linux-image-extra-4.4.0-31-generic and hdmi sound is back!
[02:30] <Jordan_U> cyanred: I veguely remember tracker being an indexing tool that indexed the contents of files for later searching, but I haven't used any such tool for so many years that might be very out of date.
[02:30] <Wulf> nedved: coincidence?
[02:31] <nedved> Wulf: maybe... after upgrade kernel lost hdmi sound! :/
[02:32] <cyanred> Jordan_U, How come Ubuntu doesn't allow us to search text files inside?
[02:32] <cyanred> In my icons I see the first few lines of text in the text file
[02:32] <cyanred> so the OS already knows. Why not allow us to search the files?
[02:33] <Jordan_U> cyanred: It does. It's just a feature that I have never wanted to use, and thus I don't know how off the top of my head.
[02:34] <tax> Hey
[02:34] <tax> Hey
[02:35] <kk4ewt> Jordan_U, try find
[02:35] <kk4ewt> you may have to updatedb first
[02:35] <cyanred> I used the Gnome tool:
[02:35] <cyanred> http://askubuntu.com/questions/127892/how-to-find-a-text-file-which-contains-a-specific-word-inside-not-in-its-name
[02:35] <cyanred> Worked perfectly.
[02:36] <Jordan_U> kk4ewt: find doesn't seach for text within files, and updatedb is for locate, not find.
[02:36] <tax> hello
[02:36] <tax> hello
[02:36] <tax> hello
[02:36] <Wulf> tax: stay quiet, please.
[02:37] <kk4ewt> tax ask your question already
[02:37] <tax> Hey
[02:37] <tax> hello
[02:37] <yuken> So, uh, neither options seem to function. http://i.imgur.com/YC3a40v.png
[02:37] <tax> Hey
[02:38] <tax> hello
[02:38] <Jordan_U> tax: Please join #ubuntu-ops if you wish to discuss your mute.
[02:40] <Bray90820> de-facto: nc: getaddrinfo name or service not found
[02:41] <mikubuntu> aliendude5300: holy smokes. but they SHOULD cost $14 .. lol
[02:41] <Bray90820> Sorry my bad "nc: getaddrinfo name or service not known"
[02:41] <de-facto> yeah your dns seems to be broken
[02:42] <de-facto> termbin.com has address 5.39.93.71
[02:42] <Bray90820> Heh same thing happened at work today took me 3 hours to fix it
[02:43] <Bray90820> But that was a different issue not related at all to this tablet
[02:44] <Bray90820> Do you want the output of the wget?
[02:46] <de-facto> no it just was meant to cause some traffic on your wifi
[02:47] <Bray90820> Alrght
[02:48] <Bray90820> Well it didn't freeze the tablet just stoped the download at 9%
[02:48] <Bray90820> Might have been because the tablet locked tho
[02:50] <de-facto> sorry too tired to be helpfull, if i were you i would google about that wifi chip you got there
[02:50] <Bray90820> I did that already but thanks anyways
[03:02] <Mojtaba> Hello, I am using this command: cat links.txt | xargs -n 1 -P 8 wget -q to be able to run 8 instances of wget.
[03:02] <Mojtaba> Do you know how can I monitor them?
[03:08] <coolmadmax> nedved, try in teminal 'alsamixer' option F6
[03:10] <BenderRodriguez> Sigh
[03:10] <BenderRodriguez> Why is Canonical neglecting Ubuntu desktop?
[03:10] <BenderRodriguez> I know cloud is their new GF now, but desktop has been their core initiative
[03:10] <BenderRodriguez> why is this happening?
[03:11] <BenderRodriguez> I just installed 16.10 and it's nearly identical, both in terms of its instability and featuresets when I first tried Unity
[03:14] <Bray90820> BenderRodriguez: Identical to what?
[03:14] <cfhowlett> BenderRodriguez, this is not the canonical channel.  this is the ubuntu technical support channel.  if you have a specific problem that the volunteers can address ask.  venting and/or complaining should be directed to canonical.
[03:29] <anonymous_64> hello tux world
[03:29] <cfhowlett>   ? actually this is ubuntu support anonymous_64
[03:34] <orvergon> guys, first time connecting to a ssh server over web, it is normal to get the "The autenticity of host can't be established"? Not the first time using this server, I have already used it locally
[03:36] <Bappa> My GNU GRUB is not working properly:
[03:36] <Bappa> My GNU GRUB is not working properly:
[03:36] <Bappa> My GNU GRUB is not working properly:
[03:36] <Bappa> sorry....
[03:49] <Bappa> 1. My GNU GRUB is not working properly:   I installed Windows 7 first then I installed Ubuntu 16.04 LST;  But recently my keyboard is not working at the time of startup, so I can't choose Windows 7 or something else, my computer directly enter on Ubuntu.  My start up menu as:  "GNU GRUB ver 2.02 beta2-36 ubuntu 3.1  Ubuntu Advance option Ubuntu Memory Test (memtest 86+) Memory Test (memtest 86+, serial console 115200) Windows 7..."   2. 
[03:49] <kicksled> orvergon: yeah, if you never connected to the host before. http://superuser.com/a/421084
[03:50] <sphrak> does anyone know if rtorrent in repo is compiled with xmlrpc-c support?
[03:52] <Bashing-om> Bappa: Maybe try and reset USB settings in Bios. see if Bios passes to grub to load a different keyboard driver/configuration .
[03:56] <protex> a
[03:59] <Bappa> My GNU GRUB is not working properly: I installed Windows 7 first then I installed Ubuntu 16.04 LST; But recently my keyboard is not working at the time of startup, so I can't choose Windows 7 or something else, my computer directly enter on Ubuntu. My start up menu as: "GNU GRUB ver 2.02 beta2-36 ubuntu 3.1 => a) Ubuntu, b)Advance option Ubuntu, c)Memory Test (memtest 86+), d)Memory Test (memtest 86+, serial console 115200), e)Windows 7.
[04:00] <Bappa> Also a error message at the time of Ubuntu startup: "/dev/sda11: clean, 296102/2142112 files 1622240/8559616 blocks" -- please tell me the way to solve these 2 problem.
[04:02] <Bashing-om> Bappa: See my last .. and "/dev/sda11: clean," is normal .. just an advisory from the system that all is clean .
[04:06] <Bappa_> Thanks for solve my second problem....but what is for my first problen about not working key board at the time of startup?
[04:07] <Bashing-om> Bappa: In the frimware ( Bios) try changing the USB settings ( maybe to legacy ) .
[04:08] <Bappa_> already legacy selected
[04:10] <Bashing-om> Bappa_: So try andother selection :) .. This gets passed for what gryb is to expect, and grub then loads it's driver .
[04:10] <zyf> 中文
[04:11] <Bappa_> lets see....thanks
[04:12] <Bashing-om> Bappa_: .. Hope it works .
[04:25] <wt> Does anyone here have the latest gen Dell XPS13?
[04:26] <Ben64> try asking your real question
[04:27] <wt> I am trying to figure out if the wifi hardware in that laptop works well with Ubuntu or not.
[04:28] <wt> It appears to be Atheros based.
[04:28] <wt> It's called Killer Wireless
[04:28] <wt> or something like that
[04:29] <Jordan_U> wt: Atheros should work quite well.
[04:30] <wt> Jordan_U, ath10k appears to be what this card is.
[04:33] <th0r> +
[04:34] <coolmadmax> wt download livedvd and try
[04:35] <wt> coolmadmax, I don't have the laptop yet
[04:37] <TestIrchatNICK> 66
[04:49] <Rarrikins> wt: Did you get the Developer's Edition?
[04:59] <UrsaTempest> Okay, so today I connected my Android phone (sprout8, Android One 2014), and while it is mounted and I've set to MTP, I can't see any Internal Memory/SD Card on Nautilus. However, Calibre can detect it and manage the ebook as usual.
[04:59] <UrsaTempest> Ubuntu is 16.04.1.
[05:00] <UrsaTempest> It was fine a couple days ago, but I encountered this problem this morning.
[05:50] <Elronnd> I'm using ubuntu for travis-ci, and I noticed that even zesty is still on gcc 4.6
[05:50] <Elronnd> is there a reason it's so out of date?
[05:58] <bobby86> helo
[05:59] <bobby86> how to join another channel?
[05:59] <bobby86> ?
[05:59] <bobby86> help
[05:59] <bobby86> \help
[05:59] <SynfulAck> hey guys when doing a hostnamectl, will it display wheter the system is lubuntu, ubuntu etc?
[06:01] <hateball> !irc | bobby86
[06:01] <hateball> hmmm
[06:03] <bobby86> ok thanks
[06:08] <zed__> hai friends can you help me to use aircrack-ng using terminals
[06:10] <zed__> any one there
[06:16] <amazoniantoad> I installed pyopencl using apt-get yet python can't find the module. I went to ##python and they had no idea
[06:16] <amazoniantoad> Can anyone help me?
[06:17] <threatworking> pip install pyopencl
[06:19] <amazoniantoad> threatworking: purged pyopencl and used pip. Same issue
[06:19] <amazoniantoad> "No module named 'pyopencl'"
[06:19] <threatworking> find / | grep -i pyopencl
[06:20] <Flannel> amazoniantoad: If you install via the package, it's in /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/, which should be in the path, I'm pretty sure.  See: http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/i386/python-pyopencl/filelist
[06:20] <amazoniantoad> Flannel: then why doesn't python recognize it? I install pyopencl for python3 and 2
[06:23] <SynfulAck> on the redhat family you can do like a rpm -iV to check for package manipulation from the database, whats the dpkg/apt equivelent
[06:23] <SynfulAck> if there is one?
[06:24] <Flannel> amazoniantoad: you can verify that /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ exists in the path, with `import sys` and `print (sys.path)`
[06:24] <jaapio> Hi, does any one here know how I can make ubuntu wake-up when my laptop is docked?
[06:24] <Flannel> SynfulAck: What do you mean by "package manipulation (from the database)"?
[06:25] <amazoniantoad> Flannel: http://pastebin.com/6Dd3yx4x
[06:25] <SynfulAck> Flannel, i think it checks the hashes or something
[06:26] <ducasse> SynfulAck: you've got dpkg --verify
[06:26] <Flannel> amazoniantoad: You're running python 3.5, when you install "python-pyopencl" you're installing it for python 2.  You need to install python3-pyopencl for python3's library
[06:26] <amazoniantoad> Flannel:
[06:27] <amazoniantoad> Flannel: I did, via sudo apt-get install python3-pyopencl
[06:27] <pipegeek> Hi, folks.
[06:27] <Flannel> amazoniantoad: well, looking further at that paste, you actually don't have dist-packages in your path.  So, that would be your problem too.
[06:27] <reisio> hi pipe
[06:27] <zed__> hai friends
[06:28] <pipegeek> Question.  Haven't installed ubuntu in a couple years.  Now installing yakkity on a new laptop running windows 10, and was hoping to set it up in a dual-boot configuration with the ubuntu partition encrypted
[06:28] <Flannel> amazoniantoad: Are you running the python that comes with ubuntu? or did you install your own python version?
[06:28] <pipegeek> I'm wondering why the lvm and encryption options are grayed out when I select "install ubuntu alongside windows boot manager" in ubiquity.
[06:28] <amazoniantoad> Flannel: I'm pretty sure it's the ubuntu version. Though it has been a long time, it could be something else.
[06:28] <Flannel> amazoniantoad: because that path looks like you're running a python version from your home directory, not the system version.
[06:28] <amazoniantoad> Don't think it is though
[06:29] <amazoniantoad> Flannel: should I purge python and reinstall?
[06:29] <pipegeek> does anyone know why the only canned dual-boot option in the installer disables lvm and dmcrypt?  It makes me nervous to set up my own partition scheme, since maybe the installer knows something I don't
[06:30] <Flannel> amazoniantoad: Try running /usr/bin/python3 (well, and tab complete that to whatever dot version you have, depending on your ubuntu version)
[06:31] <Flannel> amazoniantoad: and then inside *that* python shell, see if you have the library
[06:31] <amazoniantoad> Flannel: you're right. That was the problem. I don't know where this anaconda thing came from. What can I do to change this to the default installation? This has caused me a lot of headache
[06:32] <dax> SynfulAck: look into the "debsums" package
[06:32] <Flannel> amazoniantoad: Well, it looks like it's in your home directory.  So... delete it :)
[06:32] <amazoniantoad> Flannel: but if I try to execute python where will it point to? Back to the default directory?
[06:32] <SynfulAck> dax, system is already compromised, need forensic tools
[06:32] <Flannel> amazoniantoad: It points to whatever "python" executable is first in the paths.  `which python` will tell you where "python" will come from.
[06:32] <SynfulAck> dax, thx though, i know about that package
[06:33] <Flannel> amazoniantoad: Depending on your ubuntu version, you may actually be interested in `python3` and not `python` (which would be python 2)
[06:33] <amazoniantoad> Flannel: thank you so much! omg
[06:33] <amazoniantoad> Flannel: such a friggin headache
[06:33] <Flannel> amazoniantoad: Of course, whether you want python 2 or python 3 is up to you, of course.  Your anaconda thing was python 3
[06:34] <amazoniantoad> Flannel: Yeah I kind of learned to use python3. Though it doesn't matter that much. Python 3 appears to be more strict syntatically
[06:34] <Flannel> amazoniantoad: regardles, you've got it solved.  So that's good.
[06:35] <amazoniantoad> Flannel: thanks again. Going to go play with opencl now :)
[06:35] <FatSpitfire> what the f is the difference between a caching nameserver and a master smth smth server - defferent modes in Bind9 ?
[06:39] <pipegeek> if someone responded, I didn't see :( pidgin crashed
[06:41] <mabus> pipegeek: you didnt miss anything but i dont know the answer to your question
[06:59] <CtrlC> Why do I get the following error when trying to install python-pip? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23391694/ I already tried update and upgrade and -f install.
[07:00] <reisio> "This may mean that you have
[07:00] <reisio> This may mean that you have
[07:00] <reisio> hrmm, whoops
[07:00] <reisio> "This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or" is a classic line
[07:00] <reisio> the 'or' is particularly raw
[07:01] <CtrlC> reisio, what to do?
[07:01] <CtrlC> Anyone any idea?
[07:02] <hello> hello
[07:03] <reisio> CtrlC: looking at the output, my guess is that it wants a version of python that once existed but doesn't presently, as far as your install is concerned
[07:03] <hello> I'm looking for an IDE for Xubuntu
[07:03] <reisio> in that case you can probably track down a deb of that version & install it
[07:04] <reisio> hello: for developing what?
[07:04] <hello> I'm developing a theory based around applying bio-statistics to server joins
[07:05] <hello> complex joins that is
[07:05] <reisio> hello: uhuh...
[07:05] <reisio> hello: so not in any particular language?
[07:06] <hello> It will be a combination of Python, Perl, PHP, and Miranda
[07:08] <hello> I just can't figure out how to get an IDE setup on my *BRAND NEW* linux box
[07:08] <reisio> hello: a combination of python, perl, php, & miranda?
[07:08] <hello> yes that is correct
[07:08] <reisio> thou be-est f'real?
[07:08] <hello> I am working to computerize my theories
[07:09] <hello> it is very complex
[07:09] <reisio> if you say so
[07:09] <hello> you asked ...
[07:09] <reisio> yeah but that's not really the answer to what I asked :D
[07:09] <hello> the data structure are very complex
[07:09] <hello> MacOS was not capable of handling the theoretical limits
[07:10] <pipegeek> mabus: thanks anyway
[07:10] <reisio> hello: you might look at anjuta or kdevelop, but I'm not sure entirely how focused on scripting languages they are
[07:10] <reisio> personally I'd just use a text editor & a terminal
[07:10] <hello> I was forced to switch to Linux
[07:10] <reisio> well, as believable as that is, it's also hilarious to read from anyone :p
[07:10] <hello> how do I install terminal?
[07:11] <reisio> hello: heh
[07:12] <hello> will terminal be able to handle one million theoretical limits?
[07:12] <hello> help me to install terminal please!
[07:13] <Ben64> you already have terminal
[07:13] <hello> HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT?!?!
[07:14] <Ben64> you've got one line to not be a troll, or i'm going back to what i was doing
[07:14] <hello> I cannot comply to the above request :-(
[07:14] <newscripter> guys
[07:14] <ikevin> hello, ctrl + alt + f1
[07:14] <newscripter> guys how do i choose between xubuntu and ubunto mate
[07:15] <newscripter> what is the pros and cons?
[07:15] <newscripter> i was told they are essentially the same
[07:15] <hello> I went with Atom for my IDE everyone O:-)
[07:15] <Ben64> newscripter: you mean choose which to install?
[07:15] <newscripter> Ben64: yes
[07:16] <Ben64> depends if you like xfce or mate desktop
[07:16] <Ben64> note you can have both installed at the same time
[07:16] <newscripter> well thats the problem, i dont know. I was told they are practically the same but i should pick either
[07:16] <newscripter> looking for a tie breaker to pick which one
[07:16] <Ben64> ubuntu-mate seems more polished, in my opinion
[07:17] <newscripter> nicer looking or you mean better supported
[07:17] <newscripter> ?
[07:17] <Ben64> nicer looking, more functional. but this is my opinion
[07:18] <hello> anyone using Pyzo?
[07:19] <newscripter> thank you Ben64
[07:19] <newscripter> +rep
[07:19] <Ben64> no such thing here, but you could do "!cookie | Ben64"
[07:20] <shabir> hello there
[07:21] <Ilija> register
[07:21] <Ilija> a
[07:21] <Ilija> aa
[07:21] <Ilija> a
[07:21] <Ilija> a
[07:21] <shabir> name?
[07:21] <newscripter> !cookie | Ben64
[07:21] <newscripter> lol
[07:21] <Ben64> :D
[07:27] <joob> Hi. 16.04 server with SATA. Does a stock install spin down idle spinning drives by default?
[07:27] <arlekin> hi there!
[07:27] <joob> hi
[07:28] <arlekin> 16.04 it is total PITA to connect my BT headset
[07:28] <arlekin> i read various SO's and it seems that kinda historically ubuntu had troubles with BT
[07:29] <reisio> joob: on a desktop, or laptop?
[07:29] <reisio> arlekin: all distros & all OSes have trouble with BT
[07:29] <joob> reisio, desktop(dell core duo)
[07:30] <reisio> joob: I wouldn't think so, no, but I haven't actually checked
[07:30] <arlekin> reisio: seems so, since the only device/OS i have no problem with is my android phone
[07:30] <joob> my assumption is /etc/hdparm.conf reisio
[07:30] <reisio> joob: if you have a power manager installed (default GNOME/Unity probably would), you can check its prefs
[07:30] <joob> just curious if ubuntu had it's own way first before proceeding
[07:31] <joob> reisio, this is a server, no gui
[07:31] <reisio> arlekin: IME things that support bluetooth in addition to other wireless systems are usually hopelessly overloaded
[07:31] <reisio> and that's the problem with bluetooth
[07:32] <reisio> which is a shame, because being able to use multiple wireless devices with one receiver is essentially the single reason to use bluetooth over plain wireless
[07:33] <hubatrix> folks I am in trouble, dont know everything was working fine a while ago, well I am running ubuntu 16.10, my firefox browser is not working, but my gogole chrome broswer works fine and can load internet, firefox says Server not found I even tried all these https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-cant-load-websites-other-browsers-can but no use, there is another inbuilt brower in ubuntu that also dosent seem to load net
[07:33] <hubatrix> no clue what wrong here, and no I have no proxies
[07:33] <arlekin> reisio: oh well... im not even that ambitious, i just wanna my headphones...
[07:34] <hubatrix> because of this I am not able to connect through hexchat it also says irc.freenode.net not found, had use webchat from chrome
[07:35] <Ben64> hubatrix: open a terminal and do "ping irc.freenode.net"
[07:35] <reisio> arlekin: that's all anybody wants
[07:35] <hubatrix> Ben64:  ping irc.freenode.net ping: irc.freenode.net: Name or service not known
[07:35] <Ben64> hubatrix: ping 8.8.8.8
[07:36] <hubatrix> yup Ben64 0 percent packet loss
[07:36] <SynfulAck> Ok, if you run tasksel you get some ncurses prompt which allows you to install other server components, and in that there is an option to install a basic ubuntu server. The question is if i choose this option, is there a way to transition from a desktop to this install and wipe out all that crap you dont need for a server?
[07:36] <Ben64> hubatrix: you need to set new static dns servers
[07:36] <hubatrix> PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=58 time=7.98 ms
[07:36] <hubatrix> how did this happen Ben64 ? and how do I set new static dns server ?
[07:36] <Ben64> hubatrix: dunno, and use your network manager
[07:37] <hubatrix> I dont get it cant all my requests channel through google dns and serve me ip's ? google dns semes working right Ben64 ?
[07:38] <Ben64> hubatrix: yes, google's dns servers are free to use. 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[07:38] <hubatrix> so Ben64 how do I set up static dns with network manager ?
[07:38] <Ben64> open it, it's kind of just... there
[07:39] <hubatrix> Ben64: gui ?
[07:39] <Ben64> yep
[07:40] <b1ack1isted> sup guys,,,, anyone know howto remote torrent in Linux from android?? any points in the right direction would be greatly appreciated
[07:40] <hubatrix> search returned nothing for " network manager", how do I do this in terminal cant I use netwrokctl ?
[07:40] <hubatrix> Ben64:
[07:41] <joob> hubatrix, you can terminal edit resolv.conf for now
[07:41] <hubatrix> for now in the sense isnt it permanent joob ?
[07:42] <joob> hubatrix, just for now.. so u have a way while you search for a solution
[07:43] <hubatrix> the solution is to add a new static dns ip into to my resolv.conf right ? joob, right now it is just nameserver 127.0.1.1
[07:43] <joob> hubatrix, If you have NetworkManager then you should instead statically add nameserver addresses via network indicator: Edit Connections... | Edit... | IPv4 Settings | Additional DNS servers.
[07:44] <joob> you certain that procedure isnt there?
[07:45] <Triffid_Hunter> hubatrix: fwiw, it's pretty common for DNS forwarding to be the first thing to go when COTS network routers start getting tight on ram.. give your router a reboot
[07:45] <hubatrix> I did that twice Triffid_Hunter
[07:46] <joob> hubatrix, give resolv a go.
[07:47] <Triffid_Hunter> hubatrix: well install 'dig' and you can trivially find out which servers are working and which aren't.. I usually check router first, then ISP, then google public to find out what's broken
[07:47] <hubatrix> joob: I added 8.8.8.8 as value for additional namserver under ipv4, still chrome works and nothing else connects to internet
[07:47] <joob> hubatrix, can you ping from the router? either on a webpage or ssh?
[07:47] <joob> hubatrix, or perhaps add dns at router level anyway
[07:49] <reisio> Triffid_Hunter: darned plants
[07:49] <hubatrix> joob I can ping my router, cant ping any webpage
[07:50] <hubatrix> Triffid_Hunter: I have dig
[07:50] <Triffid_Hunter> hubatrix: then you can dig @127.0.0.1 google.com, dig @(your ISP
[07:50] <Triffid_Hunter> 's dns) google.com, dig @4.2.2.1 google.com
[07:50] <joob> hubatrix, i meant ping from router. what that means is logging into your router over web/ssh and issue a ping coming from 192.168.1.1(for ex).
[07:50] <Triffid_Hunter> and see which DNS servers are working and which ones aren't. perhaps unbound has barfed and needs a restart?
[07:52] <hubatrix> joob: Triffid_Hunter http://sprunge.us/GVCg
[07:52] <Mement> What is the estimated time to upgrade from 14.06 to 16.04? It says hours, if possible I like a better estimate.
[07:53] <hubatrix> I cant curl, I cant wget
[07:54] <joob> Mement, it varies because it depends on how old/new hardware is overall. hard to predict
[07:55] <Mement> joob, Computer is unavailable during upgrade or is it done in background as any other package update?
[07:56] <hubatrix> joob: ideally what should your resolv.conf look like ?
[07:56] <hubatrix> mine just has nameserver 127.0.1.1
[07:56] <joob> hubatrix, try pinging this address. it is one of the first dig replies i got on my end. ping 139.162.227.51
[07:57] <joob> Mement, i think you can still use it. i never do that procedure myself i always reinstall.
[07:57] <hubatrix> yes joob that works 0 packet loss
[07:57] <joob> dns issue..its gotta be
[07:57] <joob> can you log into your router and check the dns entries
[07:57] <Triffid_Hunter> hubatrix: wtf, your local dns server is returning empty success.. pretty sure you need to restart unbound or whatever your local dns server is
[07:58] <Triffid_Hunter> I've seen unbound do that once or twice when connections are going up and down rapidly
[07:58] <joob> Triffid_Hunter, hubatrix could solve this at the router level couldn't they?
[07:58] <hubatrix> what should I do Triffid_Hunter ?
[07:58] <hubatrix> I logged into router (web) but there seems no ping tool
[07:58] <hubatrix> there
[07:59] <joob> ok look for dns entry
[07:59] <Triffid_Hunter> joob: not if the router's DNS forwarder is fine but unbound is mangling all the replies
[07:59] <joob> hubatrix, you have another machine on your network with the same issues?
[08:00] <Triffid_Hunter> hubatrix: I've no idea what the thing is in ubuntu that lets you restart unbound (if that's even what it's using).. maybe sudo killall unbound? hopefully it'll get automatically restarted
[08:01] <CtrlC> Why does pip install flask get the following error:
[08:01] <CtrlC> locale.Error: unsupported locale setting
[08:01] <hubatrix> I have my smart phone and that works fine, loads any page requested on both firefox and chrome joob Triffid_Hunter
[08:01] <unga> heya! Can somebody tell me how I can make this work: dconf write /org/gnome/desktop/input-sources/xkb-options  ["ctrl:nocaps","altwin:swap_alt_win"]
[08:01] <CtrlC> here's my locale and locale -a: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23391820/
[08:02] <hubatrix> hubatrix: Triffid_Hunter joob so I guess my router is proper?
[08:02] <hubatrix> my ubuntu has issues
[08:02] <joob> other machines in yer network same problem too?
[08:03] <hubatrix> joob: no
[08:03] <hubatrix> they work fine
[08:05] <hubatrix> should I add this in dhclient.conf, prepend domain-name-servers 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4; ? joob
[08:05] <joob> hubatrix, resolv.conf is my suggestion
[08:05] <joob> no comment on that other file
[08:05] <Ben64> hubatrix: why don't you just open the network manager :S
[08:05] <hubatrix> joob: what should I add in resolv.conf ?
[08:05] <hubatrix> Ben64: I did
[08:05] <Ben64> and
[08:06] <joob> hubatrix, wherever you go that suggestion, go ahead and try it. just be sure to make a backup of the file before you edit it.
[08:06] <Ben64> resolv.conf gets overwritten each boot
[08:06] <Ben64> it's so easy to just add it using the network manager
[08:06] <joob> hubatrix, http://askubuntu.com/questions/130452/how-do-i-add-a-dns-server-via-resolv-conf
[08:07] <hubatrix> edit connections | edit | ipv4 settings | additional DNS server : 8.8.8.8 | save, tried to load a page still same thing not fixed Ben64
[08:07] <joob> Ben64, hubatrix says he cant find that area in networkmanager
[08:07] <Ben64> additional?
[08:08] <Ben64> what does it say in ipv4 settings at the top
[08:08] <hubatrix> Ben64: yea because method is DHCP
[08:08] <hubatrix> automatic
[08:08] <Ben64> change to dhcp addresses only
[08:09] <hubatrix> there is automatic dhcp adress only , no dhcp adress only
[08:09] <hubatrix> Ben64:
[08:09] <Ben64> yeah same thing
[08:09] <hubatrix> okay I saved and tried a page
[08:09] <Ben64> and you'll want to put '8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4' for dns
[08:09] <hubatrix> still nothing works Ben64
[08:10] <Ben64> without the quote
[08:10] <hubatrix> did that Ben64
[08:10] <hubatrix> nothing still :/
[08:10] <Ben64> try ping google.com
[08:11] <hubatrix> Ben64: $ ping google.com ping: google.com: Name or service not known
[08:11] <Ben64> reboot time
[08:11] <hubatrix> reboot whole system Ben64 ?
[08:11] <Ben64> yep
[08:11] <hubatrix> k I will be back
[08:13] <ubuntu-mate> bbc arabic
[08:16] <hubatrix> hey Ben64 thanks a lot ! it works now
[08:17] <hubatrix> but is this an permanent solution ? Ben64
[08:17] <hubatrix> and these many years it was in automatic dhcp why all of a sudden I had to change this ? any idea why this would happen
[08:18] <Ben64> hubatrix: yep forever
[08:18] <hubatrix> thanks joob Triffid_Hunter
[08:18] <Ben64> might be a dns server you're getting that is giving bad info or is down or who knows
[08:18] <Ben64> i stopped using ISP dns's long ago
[08:19] <joob> same here
[08:19] <joob> thats one reason why i wanted you to check dns on router hubatrix
[08:19] <joob> still never got an answer. :P
[08:20] <Ben64> yeah i set good servers on my router and not have to bother with it on any device
[08:20] <joob> Ben64, you mind a server question? :P
[08:20] <Ben64> go for it
[08:21] <joob> how could i tell if the spinning hdd on a desktop running 16.04 server is, in fact sleeping? why? i am not near the machine so a script or a log record of it spinning down.
[08:21] <joob> would help me determine it is sleeping as instructed.
[08:22] <hubatrix> I use dyndns.org Ben64
[08:22] <joob> hubatrix, to recieve dns? or to host a dns name for your ip?
[08:22] <Ben64> you mean the dns service that got massively attacked recently? cool
[08:22] <hubatrix> how dO I check dns on router joob by pinging from router ?
[08:23] <Ben64> depends on router
[08:23] <hubatrix> netgear
[08:23] <Ben64> it's not really on topic here though, but it'll be in one of the pages probably
[08:24] <joob> log in to router. look for something like static dns and what it says, even if it is blank say so
[08:24] <hubatrix> lol Ben64 after I added DNS I am not able to login through web to my router it says "You are not connected to your Router’s WiFi network. To access routerlogin.com, your device must be connected to your Router’s WiFi network. Check your current connection and try again."
[08:24] <hateball> joob: not sure if you can query that using hdparm
[08:25] <hubatrix> joob, yes it was blank last time I checked
[08:25] <hubatrix> minutes ago
[08:25] <hateball> joob: man-page says hdparm -C /dev/whatever
[08:25] <joob> hateball, would a status check in a 30 minute cron in a loop help? I could pipe results to file in ram
[08:25] <mystique_> I am trying to connect to a windows share using ubuntu 16.04
[08:25] <joob> hubatrix, then put in a good dns. a few to pick from
[08:26] <Ben64> hubatrix: routerlogin.com ???
[08:26] <mystique_> it sees the machine, but although the machine has no password, it won't let me in without password
[08:26] <hubatrix> yup Ben64 I am not able to login, when I say routerlogin.net it now says You are not connected to your Router’s WiFi network. To access routerlogin.com, your device must be connected to your Router’s WiFi network. Check your current connection and try again.
[08:26] <hubatrix> joob, yes when I am able to login to i
[08:26] <hubatrix> it
[08:26] <Ben64> hubatrix: why are you using routerlogin.net though
[08:26] <hateball> joob: I don't know what you want to do, I only saw you asking for a way to determine if it was sleeping or not
[08:27] <joob> mystique_, windows defaults to no sharing from windows unless user has a password. if this windows account just "logs in" then thats the issue.
[08:27] <hubatrix> 192.168.1.1?
[08:27] <mystique_> ok, so windows logs in from other machines with out password
[08:27] <Ben64> hubatrix: depends, but maybe
[08:27] <joob> hateball, i want to know a remote server spinning hdd is sleeping from a reporting method
[08:28] <joob> since i cant hear it power down sitting close
[08:28] <mystique_> joob, every windows machine can share
[08:28] <mystique_> but ubuntu can't (baffling)
[08:28] <hubatrix> yea ben64 I can log in now, joob sorry my bad static routers is empty not static dns, there is something called dynamic dns and its turned off as of now
[08:29] <g2g2g> hi everyone!, i joined ubuntu to a domain but now i want to leave the domain and delete users,  i tried to delete users before leave domain but i can't
[08:29] <joob> mystique_, amongst themselves?
[08:29] <mystique_> yeah
[08:29] <hubatrix> Dynamic DNS service is not enabled. should this enabled ?
[08:29] <Ben64> hubatrix: no
[08:29] <linux_g10> what exactly are you trying to achieve?
[08:29] <Ben64> joob: what's the output of sudo hdparm -I /dev/<device> | grep level
[08:30] <joob> mystique_, make a test windows account and put a simple password on it. then login to it, enable sharing and see if it works that way. Are you getting prompted for who to login *as* from ubuntu?
[08:31] <g2g2g> delete domain users in my pc
[08:31] <Ben64> hubatrix: it might be in dhcp settings, it might be impossible, it might be behind an "advanced" button, who knows
[08:31] <joob> g2g2g, leave the domain first then purge
[08:32] <hubatrix> I did that all that Ben64 its just not there, anyhow what ever I have done right now is a long term solution right ?
[08:32] <Ben64> hubatrix: for your computer yep
[08:32] <g2g2g> joob, how can i purge?
[08:32] <hubatrix> cool thanks again
[08:33] <joob> del accounts left behind because of it
[08:33] <mystique_> joob, ok, trying that
[08:33] <joob> mystique_, if this works it narrows down whats going on
[08:34] <joob> mystique_, are these windows computers on a domain?
[08:35] <mystique_> we don't know, but it autodetects as 'workspace' or something
[08:35] <mystique_> we're trying to set up a new account
[08:36] <mystique_> workgroup
[08:36] <mystique_> is the domain
[08:39] <linux_g10> @g2g2g run command -> control userpasswords2
[08:41] <joob> workgroups and domains are two dif things. if these machines giving you a problem are on a domain(check properties) then this is another problem altogether.
[08:42] <linux_g10> indeed
[08:42] <mystique_> this is a plain windows 7 ultimate install
[08:42] <joob> ok. can you share from the test account?
[08:42] <linux_g10> then it won't be on a domain
[08:42] <mystique_> it works fine with no effort in windows, so I presume it's pretty much the default of everything
[08:43] <MrJones> I have an ubuntu running on a rented vserver which runs with KVM, and I started getting crashes every few hours(!) with the screen output looking like this: http://i.imgur.com/IDsbW3W.png
[08:43] <MrJones> someone having a clue what this could be?
[08:44] <mystique_> what about turning on the guest account?
[08:44] <joob> MrJones, call your vps host.
[08:44] <MrJones> joob: I already did, they claim the host is fine
[08:44] <sonunk> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-secure-phpmyadmin-on-ubuntu-16-04 with this tutrial in installed phpmyadmin but it not working on my end.. means when i m running it myip/phpmyadmin its showing 404
[08:44] <Ntemis> EriC^^: hi, u around?
[08:44] <joob> not what its for mystique_
[08:44] <joob> if youre reluctant to make a test account
[08:45] <joob> its hard enough troubleshooting....what probably is a windows-side issue
[08:45] <ztane> nice...
[08:45] <ztane> 16.10, my dns stopped resolving addresses...
[08:45] <Ben64> ztane: interesting
[08:45] <ztane> I had to reboot the computer since I couldn't troubleshoot without google...
[08:45] <joob> Ben64, wonder if something's going on again.
[08:46] <Ben64> possibly
[08:46] <joob> like that crap last week
[08:46] <ztane> dnsmasq resolved at 127.0.1.1, but it must have been some other that didn't work then...
[08:46] <Ben64> ztane: someone just came in here with the same issue
[08:46] <Ben64> blah blah blah, set static ips, use 8.8.8.8, 8.8.8.4  ... they're google's free public DNS
[08:46] <ztane> perhaps it was an onetime issue
[08:46] <ztane> no, it didn't work either... nothing in the resolv.conf, nothing in the network manager...
[08:47] <ztane> they wouldn't resolve
[08:47] <Ben64> what
[08:47] <Ben64> you don't resolve an ip
[08:47] <sonunk> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-secure-phpmyadmin-on-ubuntu-16-04 with this tutrial in installed phpmyadmin but it not working on my end.. means when i m running it myip/phpmyadmin its showing 404
[08:47] <joob> ztane, try booting your live install and see if the same problem happens there
[08:47] <ztane> Ben64: more coffee
[08:47] <EriC^^> Ntemis: hey
[08:47] <hateball> Ben64, ztane https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2340142&p=13558300#post13558300
[08:47] <ztane> joob: fixed by rebooting
[08:47] <hateball> also joob, I guess ^
[08:47] <Ntemis> hi EriC^^  am ubuntu-mate lol
[08:48] <ztane> this is the first time in my life and 20 years of using linux that I need to fix a dns resolver by *rebooting*
[08:48] <EriC^^> Ntemis: aha, hi :D
[08:48] <EriC^^> what's up?
[08:48] <joob> ztane, so the problem is it fails after a few hours uptime?
[08:48] <Ntemis> need some help with grub ...as ussual
[08:48] <mystique_> joob:  That fixed it perfectly
[08:48] <Ben64> hateball: ew.
[08:48] <Ntemis> lol
[08:48] <ztane> joob: lets see if it recurs :d
[08:48] <EriC^^> Ntemis: :D
[08:48] <ztane> this was the first time so far...
[08:48] <Ben64> yet another reason to stick to the LTS versions
[08:49] <joob> mystique_, then it's a windows issue. probably something easy. check pass/share settings in desired account
[08:49] <Ntemis> EriC^^: working fine but i have some issues i need to clean up https://paste.ubuntu.com/23391952/
[08:50] <Ntemis> sdf1 is the 500mb win 10 does and sdf2 is the main win 10 os, why it sees dual win 10 bootloaders?
[08:50] <Ntemis> EriC^^: also i would like to remove /dev/sdb1 win 7 bootloader
[08:51] <mystique_> nah, we'll just leave it with the test account.  That's working good enough
[08:51] <mystique_> thanks for your help!  Perhaps there's some way I can update the documentation for the next person?
[08:51] <Ntemis> EriC^^: sdf1 is the 500mb win 10 does and sdf2 is the main win 10 os, why it sees dual win 10 bootloaders?
[08:52] <sonunk> EriC^^, hi https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-secure-phpmyadmin-on-ubuntu-16-04 with this tutrial in installed phpmyadmin but it not working on my end.. means when i m running it myip/phpmyadmin its showing 404
[08:53] <EriC^^> Ntemis: it must see bootloaders on both partitions
[08:53] <Ntemis> u mean is normal behaviour?
[08:53] <EriC^^> not really
[08:53] <Ntemis> yeah
[08:54] <EriC^^> which entry works to boot it?
[08:54] <EriC^^> sonunk: /join #ubuntu-server and ask there
[08:54] <Ntemis> note that sdf was formated by win 10 os installer and fresh installed win 10 on it
[08:54] <Ntemis> EriC^^: didnt try
[08:54] <Ntemis> i just booted to xenial
[08:55] <EriC^^> see which one works
[08:55] <EriC^^> maybe you have to delete something for it to pick up one, #windows would know exactly
[08:55] <Ntemis> as i see the windows 7 partitioning i guess that would be sdf1
[08:56] <krypton> join #okolea
[08:56] <Ntemis> EriC^^: is a grub issue
[08:56] <Ntemis> somehow debian grub messed up my pc
[08:57] <Ntemis> i installed grub from xenial live usb and now i see debian grub menu lol
[08:57] <reisio> Ntemis: dual booting?
[08:57] <Ntemis> weird times
[08:57] <Ntemis> yes reisio is a long story though
[08:57] <reisio> how many OSes does one person need? :p
[08:57] <Ntemis> adventures in grub land
[08:58] <Ntemis> show me the oses(money)
[08:58] <Ntemis> i guess 3
[08:58] <Ntemis> :p
[09:02] <g2g2g> joob, first i've leave the domain and after when i've tried to del users ubuntu says the user not found, finally i join the pc to other domain that is similar to the previous and all the users appear again
[09:03] <g2g2g> linux_g10, i've tried 'control userpasswords2' and commad not found
[09:03] <joob> g2g2g, why you joining ubuntu to domain? do you really need this?
[09:06] <g2g2g> joob, yes i need, is for company
[09:08] <linux_g10> ah I thought you were on a windows machine
[09:10] <joob> g2g2g, i dont have expertise in doing what you are asking. i so suggest you take an image of a perfectly working ubuntu system. this way, if you encounter terrible messes attempting this at least you don't waste time reinstalling
[09:12] <guest_> when I try to install ubuntu in a computer that has preeinstalled windows 10 in uefi mode, the computer doesn't detect the live usb from which I am trying to install linux mint. Need help please
[09:12] <guest_> linux ubuntu*
[09:13] <bazhang> ask in the mint support channels guest_
[09:13] <bazhang> !mintsupport
[09:20] <barq> Is there a channel for Mate?
[09:20] <ppf> !mate
[09:23] <barq> So this channel is correct then?
[09:23] <joob> Correct, for ubuntu.
[09:24] <barq> Is there a plain ubuntu as well?
[09:26] <hateball> barq: That'd be... Ubuntu
[09:26] <hateball> with !unity
[09:29] <meldron> hey guys, anybody knows where the gnupg2 keys are stored? right now i have gnupg and gnupg2 (for enigmail) but the have different key stores, how do you guys handle this?
[09:30] <joob> ~/.gnupg ?
[09:34] <barq> !unity
[09:34] <barq> Why do people use Mate instead of unity?
[09:35] <brunch875> Probably as a matter of preference or because they got bored of unity and then wanted something new
[09:36] <brunch875> Myself, I tried gnome for a couple of days
[09:38] <ikevin> mate is lighter than unity
[09:43] <meldron> joob: yeah gnupg1 stuff is in located in ~/.gnupg, but gnupg2?
[09:43] <jirido> Hi. Can i upgrade dirctly from 15.04 without reinstalling all my software
[09:44] <joob> my apology.
[09:45] <joob> might need to export them now.. ive never used v2
[09:45] <meldron> joob: ah i see, there are diffrent file extensions now, gpg for v1 and kbx for v2
[09:45] <meldron> so i have to export them from v1 to v2
[09:45] <joob> i dont know exactly what you're doing so i cant say
[09:45] <joob> if you want to keep them definitely
[09:45] <Ben64> jirido: yes, but fresh install is easier
[09:46] <meldron> want to use them with enigmail too
[09:48] <jirido> hmm. right. I might have to live with it then. Ther is so much
[09:48] <Ben64> jirido: no, do not live with it, you're running a dangerously unsupported version
[09:50] <MaiTitos> brunch875, back to unity?
[09:55] <ameurux> Budgie ubuntu remix is the best fastest ever
[09:55] <brunch875> MaiTitos: Well, I really liked gnome. Stuff like integrated desktop recording on hotkey was just fantastic. I missed stuff like <super>+<num> to launch applications but you could install a gnome plugin to mimic that. But in the end I just missed how clean and keyboard-only unity feels like. If only there was a shortcut to "open last notification"...
[09:55] <brunch875> Anyway, if you want to talk DEs, I'm around #ubuntu-discuss
[09:55] <MaiTitos> ok
[09:57] <lantern> how come you can't change the bash prompt colors anymore?
[09:57] <lantern> in 14.04
[09:58] <brunch875> lantern: you can in 16.10
[09:58] <brunch875> I don't remember ever being unable to change the colors
[10:04] <lantern> brunch875: would u mind pastbinning your relevant configs?
[10:05] <brunch875> lantern:  configs? I just use the GUI settings to change the colors
[10:13] <fajarlaksono> why katoolin kali linux tool Removing unity-tweak-tool
[10:13] <fajarlaksono> ??
[10:13] <fajarlaksono> and remove many other
[10:14] <brunch875> lantern: here's a demonstration https://vid.me/Sq21
[10:14] <adroit_machine_> how do I install ubuntu using uefi boot?
[10:15] <lantern> brunch875: this is a server. no gui
[10:16] <brunch875> you mean there's no colors when connecting via SSH?
[10:18] <lantern> brunch875: i'm saying the server has no desktop environment
[10:18] <meltd0wn> i dont use keyboard shortcuts to open apps
[10:19] <meltd0wn> and i dont use mouse
[10:19] <meltd0wn> i disabled the launch bar
[10:20] <brunch875> lantern: then how do you reach a command prompt? SSH? Is there a screen there on your server in which you access a tty physically?
[10:21] <meltd0wn> i use systemd to open my browser :D
[10:22] <meltd0wn> how many ubuntu users use systemd to open their browser? :D
[10:22] <brunch875> lantern: here's my ~/.bashrc anyway, so you check out some coloring http://paste.ubuntu.com/23392230/
[10:23] <hamsterpower> hello I did sudo *.deb, everything was in /home/Desktop/
[10:23] <hamsterpower> is this supposed to be there?
[10:24] <hamsterpower> why is my Desktop under /home not /home/username/Desktop
[10:24] <adroit_machine_> how do I install ubuntu in uefi mode?
[10:24] <hamsterpower> adroit_machine that should be done in BIOS
[10:24] <hamsterpower> when you boot up computer, press the special key depending on your hardware to boot BIOS
[10:26] <adroit_machine_> hamsterpower: my computer is not detecting the live usb when I try to boot in uefi(default) mode
[10:27] <wafflejock> adroit_machine_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI <-- you follow this?
[10:27] <hamsterpower> then you should get a UEFI bootable usb.. you can build that using 3rd party software
[10:27] <adroit_machine_> wafflejock: I have read that article doesn't help
[10:28] <willanes> hello
[10:28] <adroit_machine_> hamsterpower, how do i convert the usb to uefi bootable usb?
[10:33] <thehelloworldguy> total noobie
[10:39] <ledeni> adroit_machine_, laptop or
[10:43] <barq> Is there a way to change the language of ubuntu?
[10:46] <munta> barq: yes, on settings > languages support
[10:47] <barq> How can I pick the language to activat
[10:47] <barq> e
[10:47] <barq> There is a list
[10:47] <barq> But I can't select anything
[10:49] <munta> barq: ...install/Remove Languages...
[10:49] <barq> Ok, I removed it now, but it's still displaying the wrong language in the menus
[10:49] <FatSpitfire> DNS Blind9 config anyone ? :D
[10:50] <hateball> barq: you'll need to restart the session for changes to take effect
[10:51] <munta> barq: install the new one and reboot/re-log user
[10:51] <barq> ok
[10:52] <munta> FatSpitfire: maybe....
[10:53] <FatSpitfire> ok , so I found a free domain name - how to configure my own Bind9 DNS server to it ?
[10:53] <Auctus> for the first time in my life I have done a release upgrade without having to reinstall everything because it failed. 15.10 -> 16.04. Huzzah.
[10:53] <Auctus> Now I should try going to 16.10
[10:53] <pragmaticus> never touch a running system.
[10:53] <FatSpitfire> DONT DO IT MAN !
[10:54] <FatSpitfire> leave it stable dude ! 16.04 is OK :D
[10:54] <a7i3n> you have everything to live for...
[10:56] <munta> FatSpitfire: example > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[10:56] <nolash> where would I find the private key for such a command on Ubuntu 16.04 : openssl s_client -cert some.crt -key XXXXX -connect some.host.com:443 -debug
[10:57] <graingert> this is out of the box ubuntu
[10:57] <nolash> There is a private key generated at install time?
[10:57] <graingert> $ avahi-resolve-host-name redacted.local
[10:57] <graingert> Redacted.local  10.xx.xx.xx
[10:57] <graingert> that just works
[10:58] <graingert> but I'm not getting dns resolution: ping redacted.local
[10:58] <graingert> ping: redacted.local: Name or service not known
[10:58] <FatSpitfire> haha :D I know that one from google :) I need smone to tell me do I use a caching dns or a master one ? and also explain them
[10:58] <graingert> https://askubuntu.com/questions/842771/avahi-dns-doesnt-work
[11:00] <munta> FatSpitfire: did you see this > https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-configure-bind-as-a-caching-or-forwarding-dns-server-on-ubuntu-14-04
[11:00] <munta> FatSpitfire: ?
[11:01] <FatSpitfire> thanks , I`ll be all over it in a min :D
[11:03] <sureshk> hello Guys,
[11:04] <FatSpitfire> thanks again guy , an hour of reading awaits me :P
[11:04] <sureshk> How to handle .git directory inside vendor/commerceguys/zone?
[11:04] <FatSpitfire> guys*
[11:04] <sureshk> I have setup drupal 8 instance intialized with git.
[11:05] <munta> FatSpitfire: enjoy!! I hope I was helpful!
[11:06] <FatSpitfire> munta , yes you were - thanks
[11:06] <filosofie> morening , question : im trying to install an eggdrop on ubuntu, and I get a tcl error
[11:07] <filosofie>  Tcl cannot be found on this system.
[11:07] <filosofie>   Eggdrop requires Tcl and the Tcl development files to compile.
[11:07] <filosofie>   If you already have Tcl installed on this system, make sure you
[11:07] <filosofie>   also have the development files (common package names include
[11:07] <filosofie>   'tcl-dev' and 'tcl-devel'). If I just wasn't looking
[11:07] <filosofie>   in the right place for it, re-run ./configure using the
[11:08] <filosofie> thanks
[11:08] <munta> filosofie: use http://paste.ubuntu.com ....
[11:08] <filosofie> yes
[11:08] <filosofie> thats the error message
[11:08] <filosofie> ;]
[11:09] <filosofie> how can I find the tcl files?
[11:09] <filosofie> so i can put the right path ?
[11:11] <filosofie> ah its ok
[11:11] <filosofie> found it
[11:11] <barq> When I am in  the vi editor, press i for insert and then use the arrow keys to navigate in the file it types ABCD instead of navigating. How can I fix this?
[11:12] <mcphail> barq: use vim instead of vi
[11:12] <ledeni> barq,use nano instead of vi
[11:12] <xXEoflaOEXx> barq: Press Esc and try to navigate, Insert mode is inserting text
[11:13] <barq> On Kubuntu I could always navigate in i mode
[11:14] <Palm_premium> barq, this has to do with the keyboard settings in your terminal. What termimnal are you using?
[11:14] <barq> The default mate one
[11:14] <barq> How can I tell the version?
[11:15] <mcphail> barq: then you need to "set nocompatible" if you don't want traditional vi behaviour
[11:15] <barq> Where do I set that?
[11:16] <mcphail> barq: if you are in traditional vi, add it to ~/.exrc
[11:16] <mcphail> barq: if you are using vim, set it in ~/.vimrc
[11:16] <barq> I don't have .exrc
[11:17] <mcphail> barq: then make it
[11:18] <barq> Thanks, now it works.
[11:18] <barq> Is there also a way to see windows that are minimized apart from tabbing?
[11:18] <mcphail> barq: np. But, seriously, use vim instead of vi if you don't want endless headaches
[11:19] <barq> OK, I'll havea a go
[11:21] <barq> GPG error: http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY
[11:22] <barq> I tried sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys
[11:22] <barq> but get host not found
[11:22] <Palm_premium> barq: vim and vi should by default both point to vim.tiny, the default editor on Ubuntu, I cant imagin these are different programs under Xenial.
[11:23] <barq> I had to install vim
[11:24] <Palm_premium> barq: I usually install the vim package and switch the default editor to vim.basic, then both vi and vim start the vim.basic editor
[11:24] <ktt9> Hi. I can't upgrade from 14.04 to 16.06, do-release-upgrade complains about BAD signature from "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key", and then "Authentication failed". What shoud I do?
[11:25] <Palm_premium> ktt9: Did you run "apt-get update" and install all available updates before adempting the dist-upgrade?
[11:25] <ktt9> Yes.
[11:25] <ktt9> It went well, without any problem.
[11:26] <mcphail> Palm_premium: vim-tiny just give a vi clone. The "vim" package is proper vim
[11:26] <Palm_premium> ktt9: Stange, if the key was bad I would expect it during the updating of the headers and during the upgrades as well
[11:27] <ktt9> Before I did apt-get update/upgrade do-release-upgrade complained about apt being too old or something.
[11:28] <Palm_premium> mcphail: Agreed vim.basic is great, allong with vim-nox for pythong plugin support ;)
[11:28] <Palm_premium> ktt9: could you run "apt-get update -qq", it should not produce output.
[11:29] <ktt9> Okay, just a moment.
[11:30] <sureshk> how to remove .git directory from vendor/commerceguys/zone  and is it good to remove .git inside library.  Issue i am facing is drupal instance folder i have done .git . but files of   vendor/commerceguys/zone  is not shown in git status . please suggest.
[11:31] <sureshk> git int is done in drupal 8 instance.
[11:35] <JuJUBee> Can anyone recommend a bluetooth ergonomic logitech mouse that works with Ubuntu?  I tried the MX Master and the bluetooth did not work despite trying some of the fixes online.
[11:36] <JuJUBee> I guess it doesn't have to be logitech...
[11:38] <wafflejock> JuJUBee, have a logitech mx 5500 (pretty old at this point but still nice) the mouse and keyboard work with the dongle that came with the them in Ubuntu for me
[11:38] <wafflejock> JuJUBee, that said I usually use a smaller RF mouse just out of convenience and because it's lighter and ultimately more comfortable
[11:38] <ktt9> Palm_premium: apt-get update -qq indeed didn't produce any output.
[11:39] <Palm_premium> ktt9: followed by "apt-get dist-upgrade", which will  install all available updates
[11:39] <wafflejock> JuJUBee, other one is not bluetooth but gets good enough range to never really drop out and don't have to deal with bluetooth and pairing
[11:40] <ktt9> apt-get dist-upgrade discovered that 7 packages should be updated. It proceeded to installation and successfully completed the task.
[11:40] <Palm_premium> ktt9: Coul you retry running "do-release-upgrade"?
[11:40] <ktt9> Palm_premium: do-release-upgrade still fails.
[11:41] <Palm_premium> ktt9: still the same warning about the archive?
[11:41] <ktt9> authenticate 'xenial.tar.gz' against 'xinial.tar.gz.gpg'; gpg exited 1; BAD signature
[11:41] <JuJUBee> wafflejock, thanks, I am looking for a bluetooth mouse.  Don't want to deal with the dongle if I can avoid it.
[11:42] <Palm_premium> ktt9: I take it 'xinial.tar.gz.gpg' is a typo?
[11:42] <ktt9> Yep. xenial.tar.gz.gpg actually.
[11:42] <Palm_premium> ktt9: Probably a caching issue
[11:43] <JuJUBee> wafflejock, Look at this on amazon, MUST be mistake...  https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Revolution-Cordless-Laser-Mouse/dp/B000HCT12O/ref=pd_sim_147_5?ie=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B000HCT12O&pd_rd_r=T1GPCEFJ9Z1Z156T8YZ6&pd_rd_w=HRW5i&pd_rd_wg=Vv4y8&psc=1&refRID=T1GPCEFJ9Z1Z156T8YZ6
[11:43] <Palm_premium> ktt9: could you run  "apt-get clean" and retry the upgrade
[11:44] <ktt9> apt-get clean silently succeded, do-release-upgrade loudly failed.
[11:44] <ktt9> With the same error.
[11:45] <ktt9> This problem haunts me since yesterday morning. How often caches are reset?
[11:45] <wafflejock> JuJUBee, haha yeah I saw a few crazy prices just looking it up now too maybe I should be selling high :)
[11:46] <wafflejock> JuJUBee, I think it was around $120 for the set, wasn't cheap but wasn't that expensive
[11:46] <Palm_premium> ktt9: Could you try updating the update "apt-get install update-manager-core". The apt-cache is never cleared automaticaly, only manualy.
[11:47] <coz> ..
[11:47] <ktt9> Oh. apt-cache. I thought you meant some server cache or something.
[11:47] <coz> Hello everyone !! i'm newbie
[11:48] <ktt9> Palm_premium: update-manager-core is already newest version.
[11:48] <Palm_premium> ktt9: when instaling software with apt-get the packages are stored locally before install, when reinstalling software or rerunning the do-release-upgrade there is a change a cached version is used.
[11:48] <Palm_premium> ktt9: Just making sure.
[11:48] <ktt9> Understood. Thanks.
[11:49] <wafflejock> JuJUBee, I think this is the newer version of what I bought, I can't recall exactly when I bought it but was at least 3 years back
[11:49] <wafflejock> JuJUBee, https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-MK710-Desktop-Wireless-Keyboard/dp/B0036E8V08/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1477655304&sr=1-2&keywords=mx5500
[11:49] <JuJUBee> wafflejock, that still requires the dongle, correct?
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:50] <JuJUBee> I don't want keyboard though...
[11:50] <Palm_premium> ktt9: are you using a proxy service?
[11:50] <ktt9> Most probably.
[11:50] <wafflejock> JuJUBee, you might want to search here https://certification.ubuntu.com/catalog/search/?query=logitech that's gonna be the best way to know it will work
[11:50] <barq> Palm_premium: How do you switch the default editor to vim.basic?
[11:51] <ktt9> I'm at work now and I believe I not only use proxy, but also VPN and also running Ubuntu in virtual machine.
[11:51] <wafflejock> JuJUBee, mine had it's own bluetooth dongle too but don't recall if it works with other bluetooth connections... the dongle and keyboard/mouse all have pair buttons on them but not sure I tried with other bluetooth devices really
[11:52] <Palm_premium> barq, update-alternatives --config editor
[11:52] <JuJUBee> wafflejock, thanks for the tips...
[11:53] <wafflejock> JuJUBee, no problem...actually just tried the mouse with another bluetooth dongle and worked fine so should be fine with your built in too I would guess
[11:53] <Palm_premium> ktt9: is it a test machine?
[11:55] <barq> Now I get GPG error: http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY
[11:55] <JuJUBee> wafflejock, good to know.
[11:55] <barq> How can I fix this?
[11:55] <Palm_premium> ktt9: you can try (re)adding the key for the archive repository or disabling the repository.
[11:56] <barq> I tried sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys
[11:56] <barq> But get host not found
[11:57] <Palm_premium> ktt9: Or if you are feeling adventurous, you can surpress the GPG error or perform an old-school manual upgrade, I would recommend creating a snapshot before trying either.
[11:59] <barq> How can I surpress or do oldschool?
[12:00] <Palm_premium> barq, can you try doing "host keyserver.ubuntu.com"
[12:00] <Flexible2K> http://ilredentore.dynv6.net
[12:00] <Palm_premium> barq: I suspect you might have an internet/dns issue
[12:01] <barq> I am behind a firewall
[12:01] <barq> firefox works
[12:02] <Palm_premium> barq: ah
[12:02] <Palm_premium> barq: do-release-upgrade is a wrapper script. Step one, make sure all updates are installed.
[12:03] <Palm_premium> barq: step two, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and all files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and change the code word (trusty) to (xenial)
[12:04] <Palm_premium> barq: step three, "apt-get update -qq" and check for errors.
[12:04] <Palm_premium> barq: step four, perform the upgrade "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:05] <Palm_premium> barq: But I would not recommend doing this in production and if possible create a snapshot or backup before attemptin this.
[12:36] <ktt9> linux_user: /etc/default/grub
[12:36] <brunch875> I don't like nvidia as a corporation but it tends to work much better
[12:36] <linux_user> ok…I’ll check into that.
[12:36] <ktt9> and GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line there.
[12:37] <ktt9> Just add what you want to it, and it should work.
[12:37] <wafflejock> FireStriker, http://askubuntu.com/questions/429610/uninstall-grub-and-use-windows-bootloader
[12:40] <laura__> How does ubuntu work on computers that have windows 8 or 10
[12:40] <EnglishTeacherMe> Hi guys.  I am demonstrating a chatroom with my class.
[12:40] <laura__> Does it hve isshes
[12:40] <linux_user> ktt9: Ok, thanks, I am about to start a 16.10 install on VMware, I’ll try that. thank you!
[12:40] <laura__> *issues
[12:40] <laura__> With EFI
[12:40] <brunch875> laura__: I have used windows 8 and 10 with ubuntu and I had no problems. I didn't tweak anything but maybe I was just lucky
[12:40] <laura__> I google but i dont know how it works with notebooks, as in will thebattery die faster
[12:40] <ktt9> linux_user: you're welcome!
[12:40] <laura__> Thank you
[12:41] <brunch875> laura__: but there's something you should be aware of: windows comes with a functionality called "fast boot" which doesn't properly close the hard drive when shutting down
[12:41] <linux_user> “close the hard drive"?
[12:42] <brunch875> so if you boot to linux and try to open the windows partition it will refuse to open it to prevent data corruption
[12:42] <linux_user> I didn’t know hard drives had lids!
[12:42] <brunch875> linux_user: just a manner of speech :p
[12:42] <laura__> Would rhis be ok for ubuntu notebook
[12:42] <brunch875> so I recommend disabling fast boot
[12:42] <laura__> http://www.tesco.com/direct/dell-inspiron-11-3162-116-inch-laptop-celeron-2gb-ram-32gb-blue-with-mcafee-internet-security-2016-unlimited-devices-bundle/214-5001.prd?skuId=214-5001&pageLevel=sku&sc_cmp=ppc_sh-_-sh-_-tesco-_-214-5001&gclid=CjwKEAjw7svABRCi_KPzoPr53QoSJAABSvxfLKSmbQjuvH2S7FT9-ZdwKF6QYuTOlucgSsQQFdlcKxoCxpnw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds&source=others#product-details-container
[12:42] <brunch875> from windows
[12:42] <laura__> (sorry for massive link)
[12:43] <laura__> I want to buy for uni but i dont like windows, its annoying
[12:43] <linux_user> Windoze on a celeron with 2GB of RAM!?! Oh my gosh, you are asking for pain!?!
[12:43] <laura__> And mac too espensive
[12:43] <linux_user> “Thank you Microsoft, may I have another?”
[12:43] <linux_user> I own a used Mac
[12:44] <laura__> But if i install ubintu
[12:44] <linux_user> $500-$700 you can get a circa 2011-2013 unit with an i7 and 8GB of RAM.
[12:44] <laura__> Will it be faster
[12:44] <laura__> But i need a notebook/light computer
[12:44] <linux_user> Walmart (in the US anyway) has really good deals on i5s and i7s
[12:44] <linux_user> less than $500 from Dell or ASUS
[12:45] <mooj> long live the iphone, the iphone is dead
 so its a ripoff?
[12:45] <laura__> The dell notebook
[12:45] <brunch875> laura__: when I got my laptop I bought it without any OS
[12:45] <linux_user> well, I wouldn’t say a rip off, but, chromebook is the best choice if you want to go low end
[12:45] <FireStriker> Do you need aintvirus?
[12:46] <brunch875> if you don't want to use windows, you could probably save that 100eur :p
[12:46] <linux_user> at least the chromebooks you know can run Linux in most cases
[12:46] <laura__> Ive never seen a place where u can buy computer with no OS
[12:46] <laura__> ???
[12:46] <linux_user> Well buying one with ChromeOS is basically the same (cost wise) as not getting an OS
[12:46] <brunch875> I ordered mine from a UK store
[12:46] <laura__> Chromebooks i heard hard to install linic
[12:46] <brunch875> it should be a lot cheaper now that the pound is really low
[12:46] <laura__> *linux
[12:46] <brunch875> are you european?
[12:46] <laura__> Sorry im on my phone
[12:46] <laura__> Yes
[12:46] <ikevin> laura__, there are lot of place to buy computer without OS (or with ubuntu pre-installed)
[12:46] <linux_user> depends on the chromebook many are easy too
[12:47] <linux_user> Ubuntu kicks toukhes if you can buy a laptop with it preinstalled (if thats what you want)
[12:47] <laura__> This secureboot thing confuses me, my laptop is 10 years old, i decided i need new
[12:47] <brunch875> I got got mine configured from https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/laptops/
[12:47] <brunch875> can buy it without windows there
[12:47] <laura__> I want it to be lightweight and run Linux thats it
[12:47] <brunch875> but that was last christmas so maybe the prices aren't as good
[12:48] <terrible> how can i change the wallpaper of the login screen in ubuntu xenial im using lightdm
[12:48] <laura__> Thank u everybody for advice
[12:48] <RatchetTheGamer> Does the ubuntu boot sequence go through some tests and what not like text through the screen?
[12:49] <laura__> So basically avoid AMD/Broadcom, get a live USB and test it or get laptop with no OS?
[12:49] <laura__> Ok I will try :P
[12:49] <FireStriker> Is AMD not supported?
[12:50] <brunch875> laura__: and if it turns out that it isn't compatible with ubuntu, the european law allows you to return it "because you don't like it"
[12:50] <laura__> Really??? I didnt know that!!!
[12:50] <brunch875> so don't worry too much
[12:50] <laura__> Thank u :D
[12:50] <laura__> Thats new information
[12:50] <brunch875> yes, there's like a week in which you can return devices/games if you don't like them
[12:50] <laura__> In UK its very easy to return things anyway
[12:51] <laura__> At least for me
[12:51] <linxeh> laura__: it's got harder with the repealing of the sale of goods act
[12:51] <sylario> Hi, how do i copy from a terminal VI to a gnome software like gedit? Last message in VIM is "XXX ligne copied"
[12:51] <linxeh> laura__: though if you quote replacement legislation it seems to still work. anyway, veering OT so I'll stop
[12:51] <laura__> Ok i'll be on the hunt! :p and aah well most of the time its easy to return anyway :p
[12:52] <brunch875> sylario: is it a terminal in the graphical session or are you using a TTY?
[12:52] <barq> How can I create a link? I used to have Eclipse in the start menu of kubuntu
[12:52] <linxeh> sylario: use the terminal clipboard (if in a GUI session)
[12:52] <kenziefc[m]> sylario (IRC): try ctrl+shift+c
[12:52] <sylario> I am using terminator
[12:52] <laura__> I'll go PC world and ask for Advice
[12:52] <alimj> Hello. Which one of these gnome setting commands are correct? https://paste.ubuntu.com/23392609/
[12:52] <laura__> Thank u everyone have a nice day
[12:53] <linux_user> You could always pay an American to come deliver a VAT free laptop to you too!
[12:53] <brunch875> good luck, laura__!
[12:53] <brunch875> sylario: if you want to copy from vim to the clipboard you have to use the "+ or "* registers
[12:53] <sylario> kenziefc[m]:  ctrl+shift-v does not work
[12:54] <brunch875> otherwise it copies to the default vim clipboard which is internal to vim
[12:54] <FireStriker> I have a hp laptop has a AMD apu and GPU will ubuntu work on it? I thought it would, wanting to do a dual boot with win 10
[12:54] <linxeh> FireStriker: almost certainly
[12:55] <kenziefc[m]> FireStriker (IRC): depends on the model. my r360m isnt supported, so I have to live with intel graphics.
[12:55] <brunch875> sylario: If you want to copy current line to the system clipboard to vim, you have to write "+yy
[12:56] <brunch875> THEN you can paste normally to gedit
[12:56] <sylario> is it the + that count?
[12:56] <brunch875> no, "+ means register +
[12:56] <FireStriker> Idk need to open it up and have a look the battery is and was fucked
[12:56] <sylario> my last command is gg"*yG
[12:56] <sylario> so i should do gg"+yG ?
[12:56] <brunch875> yes
[12:56] <linxeh> FireStriker: what model laptop is it?
[12:56] <FireStriker> I am now in grub rescue can I boot from a cd here or reboot the pic?
[12:56] <brunch875> the * register is for the "midle click paste"
[12:56] <FireStriker> Pavilion 15
[12:57] <FireStriker> 2013
[12:57] <FireStriker> Working on a old Toshiba 2008
[12:57] <brunch875> in linux, if you select a text, you can open a different window and paste it by middle clicking
[12:57] <terrible> how can i change the wallpaper of the login screen in ubuntu xenial im using lightdm
[12:57] <brunch875> in vim, that is the * register
[12:57] <brunch875> ctrl-c ctr-v is the + register for vim
[12:58] <RatchetTheGamer> Is the login screen called X?
[12:58] <brunch875> RatchetTheGamer: no, X is the display server
[12:58] <RatchetTheGamer> Ok
[12:58] <brunch875> it's basically what makes it possible to put windows on the screen
[12:59] <brunch875> on top of that, there's the desktop environment (DE) such as unity / gnome
[12:59] <sylario> mm, using + it still put the xxxx lines copied message but it does not past in gedit
[12:59] <RatchetTheGamer> Oh nice
[13:00] <FireStriker> Now booting to repair MBR
[13:00] <brunch875> RatchetTheGamer: X is now quite old, so there are efforts to replace it with new alternatives such as wayland, or mir
[13:00] <brunch875> sylario: if you write :registers you can check the contents of the registers
[13:00] <RatchetTheGamer> Ok didn't know much about it and heard about it a little
[13:00] <brunch875> what do you see in "+?
[13:00] <Panther96> Hello all, so i screwed up my boot system by deleting my old linux partition for Manjaro, so I'm trying to install ubuntu alongside Windows with the need of a new/repaired bootloader. How should I do the manual install?
[13:01] <brunch875> RatchetTheGamer: I'm not an expert myself, but I believe the "login screen" is what you would call lightdm on the default ubuntu installation
[13:01] <brunch875> gnome uses gdm
[13:01] <RatchetTheGamer> Ok thanks
[13:01] <brunch875> but you can exchange them too
[13:02] <sylario> brunch875:  how do i see "+ ?
[13:02] <kenziefc[m]> Panther96 (IRC): just install ubuntu on top of the old manjaro partition, it should configure the bootloader automatically.
[13:02] <brunch875> sylario: write :registers
[13:02] <RatchetTheGamer> I don't know much
[13:02] <brunch875> it should display the contents of every register
[13:02] <RatchetTheGamer> I just like the feel of it
[13:02] <Panther96> i already deleted the manjaro partition (hence how i screwed up)
[13:02] <Panther96> I thought it would be easier to delete them the start afresh with Windows and the free space
[13:03] <brunch875> Panther96: if I was in your situation I would boot from an ubuntu live CD and follow the installation progress
[13:03] <kenziefc[m]> Panther96 (IRC): you just need to install ubutnu on the free space then
[13:03] <brunch875> you can choose to install ubuntu alongside windows and it will put the bootloader
[13:03] <sylario> strange i have no + register
[13:03] <kenziefc[m]> the bootloader will detect both ubuntu and wjndows
[13:04] <brunch875> sylario: it's probably empty
[13:04] <sylario> i have 0 to 9,  "", - . : %  and /
[13:04] <sylario> "" and "0 seems to be my lines
[13:04] <Panther96> The problem with that brunch875 is that I tried that but when it boots i got a grub failure so the Windows bootloader doesn't get restored
[13:05] <FireStriker> Fixed MBR now on to install of ubuntu
[13:05] <brunch875> Panther96: try to fix the MBR first to see if you can boot to windows
[13:05] <brunch875> that should wipe GRUB
[13:05] <sylario> maybe using a non azerty keyboard mess with the kind of register ubuntu uses?
[13:06] <brunch875> sylario: no,no. Try placing the cursor in the line you wish to copy to the system clipboard
[13:06] <brunch875> then type
[13:06] <brunch875> :y +
[13:07] <brunch875> that yanks current line to "+, which is the system clipboard
[13:07] <FireStriker> Just use a windows repair disk and do bootrec /FixMbr or bootrec / FixBoot
[13:07] <brunch875> can also ggVG to select everything first and then :y +
[13:07] <sylario> register name invalid
[13:07] <Panther96> I tried that within Windows (using F12 on UEFI i can still access it through an extra step) but bootrec for some reason refuses to work unlike how I've used it for the past 10 years so I'm attempting to try to reinstall linux with its own booloader and add windows to it
[13:08] <brunch875> sylario: perhaps your vim installation doesn't support system clipboard
[13:08] <FireStriker> What's the best stuff to see if the os is good for the computer?
[13:08] <brunch875> sylario write :version
[13:08] <brunch875> and look for +xterm_clipboard or -xterm_clipboard
[13:08] <brunch875> + means it is available, - means it isn't
[13:09] <sylario> huho
[13:09] <sylario> i may have forget something
[13:09] <sylario> i am using SSH
[13:09] <brunch875> sylario: is it possible to select the text with the mouse, right click and then "copy"?
[13:10] <brunch875> the simplest solution is sometimes the best one
[13:10] <FireStriker>  Does ubuntu have a start menu?
[13:10] <sylario> brunch875:  yes but i want to copy hundreds of lines
[13:11] <brunch875> sylario: are you using ubuntu to connect to your server?
[13:11] <wafflejock> FireStriker, it depends on your needs
[13:11] <sylario> brunch875:  client and server are ubuntu(s)
[13:11] <wafflejock> FireStriker, there are various desktop environments you can run on Ubuntu all have some sort of application launcher, with Unity the default they call it the Dash you use windows key then can search and launch things
[13:12] <brunch875> sylario: since you're using vim, you could use vim's functionality to connect via netrw via SSH
[13:12] <FireStriker> Thanks
[13:12] <wafflejock> FireStriker, you can get a preview of the various DEs here http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-kinds-of-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available
[13:12] <sylario> brunch875:  :e scp://user@host/relative/path/from/home.txt  for example?
[13:13] <brunch875> yes, although I don't remember the syntax, that seems to be correct
[13:13] <FireStriker> What do I want to do/look for when testing the is to see if it works well on the computer
[13:13] <wafflejock> FireStriker, when you have the base Ubuntu you can switch between these or you can get versions like Ubuntu Gnome or Kubuntu or Lubuntu that have a particular DE by default and no other, but default is Unity for regular desktop Ubuntu
[13:13] <terrible> how can i change the wallpaper of the login screen in ubuntu xenial im using lightdm
[13:13] <FireStriker> Ik I was useing Lubuntu
[13:14] <brunch875> sylario: ubuntu comes installed with vim-tiny by default. If that isn't enough (maybe it doesn't come with clipboard support) you can always sudo apt install vim
[13:14] <Panther96> Okay i get thats an option, but is there any way to install ubuntu with its own boatloader that can add windows ?
[13:14] <sylario> thanks for your help, i did not learned what i expected but i still learn a little bit more on vim
[13:14] <Panther96> like nearly every other distro out there
[13:14] <wafflejock> FireStriker, well it all depends on the needs, with Linux a good thing is you can run it without the desktop environment at all if you just need something to be a server of some sort, then it isn't wasting resources on things it doesn't need to do, aside from that just how useful is it to you
[13:15] <wafflejock> FireStriker, most people spend a majority of their time in a browser in that case just having a stable system that doesn't always reboot itself and starts up quickly is usually considered good but it's all subjective :)
[13:15] <brunch875> Panther96: if you install ubuntu normally, you can select through the installation to "install alongside windows". That should set up grub to let you choose OS at startup.
[13:16] <brunch875> but if windows MBR is messed up, you should repair it first using a windows recovery disk
[13:16] <Panther96> Okay makes sense, I was just confused because my installer says Install ubuntu alongside Windows Boot Manager, which is why I was confused
[13:16] <sylario> brunch875:  I am (a webdev) in the process of learning all i can on cli tools, to be able to do everything from a shell (in case of emergency?) thx again
[13:17] <wafflejock> FireStriker, there are various standalone launcher things too that will effectively act as a start menu launcher but can't recall the name of the one I used off hand
[13:17] <Panther96> but thanks I'm going to go ahead and attempt to salvage my windows MBR
[13:17] <brunch875> sylario: that's great. I personally do all of that from the cli myself. If you need any more help with vim you can always join #vim and ask around there
[13:18] <BluesKaj> in kde there's quicklaunch
[13:18] <wafflejock> FireStriker, ah think it was "gnome do" but there may be similar things for LXDE and the like
[13:18] <FireStriker> Oh nice the keyboard short cuts work now
[13:18] <sylario> brunch875:  probably when i'll want to set colors for an exotic markup language ^^
[13:20] <FireStriker> 1.2gb is good for watching 720p
[13:20] <FireStriker> I have 2gb ram btw
[13:20] <FireStriker> It looks smooth
[13:20] <FireStriker> Feels smooth
[13:20] <FireStriker> I think it's much better than lubuntu
[13:21] <wafflejock> FireStriker, which version is that?
[13:22] <FireStriker> LTS
[13:22] <wafflejock> FireStriker, typically you're okay on the RAM until you run out and it starts using swap, think video performance is mostly effected by the GPU or CPU if it isn't using GPU acceleration
[13:22] <FireStriker> What's swap?
[13:23] <wafflejock> FireStriker, when your computer runs out of RAM it will typically use some space on your hard drive called swap space to act like RAM but it's way slower for the processor to access stuff then because it has to swap it back and forth between the hard drive and RAM
[13:23] <FireStriker> Ok
[13:23] <wafflejock> FireStriker, in the terminal if you type, free -m it will show you how much ram is used/free along with swap
[13:24] <wafflejock> the -m does it in megabytes
[13:24] <FireStriker> Ok was just looking at task manager
[13:24] <brunch875> I would use free -h
[13:25] <wafflejock> brunch875, ah that is better
[13:33] <FireStriker> While the installer is installing can I have the task manager open?
[13:34] <OY1R> i need to resize my / partition. i have a 120gb ssd. / is 10gb and 6gb free at the end. and then there's an extended partition with /home and swap. i need to make / bigger to upgrade to the latest distro
[13:34] <ikevin> FireStriker, yes
[13:34] <ikevin> OY1R, try gparted on a live session
[13:35] <ubmt> hello fans i'm still here!
[13:36] <FireStriker> If I need to can I increase the partition?
[13:37] <OerHeks> FireStriker, when you started the installer, don't mess with it.
[13:37] <ubmt> so many zombies joined the channel
[13:37] <OerHeks> ubmt, don't worry about join/parts
[13:38] <ubmt> OerHeks,but i worried about spam
[13:38] <ubmt> did i spam the channel?
[13:38] <FireStriker> I am wondering if I need to in the future after the installer finishes
[13:38] <someone235> Hi, can someone pls help me enable 2 fingers scroll in my touchpad?
[13:39] <brunch875> ubmt: here's a little guide for that http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages
[13:39] <FireStriker> Can you set up two finger scrol on a touchpad that doesn't have it?
[13:40] <brunch875> FireStriker: if the touchpad can only detect one finger at a time, it's going to be a bit impossible :p
[13:40] <someone235> brunch875, FireStriker, my touchpad has it. It works on windows
[13:42] <ubmt> yes,you tube i watch
[13:42] <OerHeks> someone235, systemsettings > mouse & touchpad should have that option
[13:42] <FireStriker> Mine doesn't I think it can detect 2 fingers don't know it did have a finger on side scrolling but that broke when I updated to win 7 from vista
[13:43] <brunch875> FireStriker: the finger on side should work without trouble. Just check the system settings
[13:43] <FireStriker> K
[13:46] <someone235> OerHeks, here it is: http://i.imgur.com/a2JgOCE.png . I don't see that option
[13:46] <someone235> btw, any scrolling will be good, not just 2 fingers
[13:48] <OerHeks> someone235, that page is set to a mouse, rog sica, change that to your touchpad perhaps?
[13:48] <OerHeks> 'device'
[13:49] <OerHeks> i don;'t have xubuntu myself, so cannot check on it
[13:49] <OY1R> ikevin, is it just a matter of dragging the extended partition to the end and the resizing the / ?
[13:50] <someone235> OerHeks, this is my devices: http://pastie.org/private/o2qtkzewdt9tryo7rtm68q#
[13:51] <ikevin> OY1R, yes
[13:51] <someone235> OerHeks, and I don't have this option in any of them
[13:51] <OY1R> ikevin, allright ill give it a shot.
[13:56] <FireStriker> What's the name of the application manager?
[13:59] <FireStriker> Need the relearn the little I learned in lubunt don't know where everything is lol but I will find it in the end
[14:00] <BluesKaj> FireStriker, which one, there;s dpkg which is backend for all package managers, then there's apt /apt-get , and the gui s like synaptic and muon etc
[14:01] <FireStriker> The GUI that is used to download the apps
[14:03] <fishcooker> how to know that the repo is synced?
[14:03] <FireStriker> Found it btw
[14:04] <OerHeks> fishcooker, this list gives a clue https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[14:10] <jkljkl> ldsflkjdfl
[14:23] <ubuntu-mate> hello
[14:24] <ubuntu-mate> is there ayone here?
[14:24] <morf> yes about 1500 people is here
[14:24] <BluesKaj> ubuntu-mate, just ask your question ..and check the nicklist to see if there any other users
[14:25] <BluesKaj> are
[14:26] <skinux> Why does installing php-zip have errors to do with nginx?
[14:30]  * Furai test
[14:31] <sdexter> I have something on a system that is started by something in /etc/init. Is there a proper way to restart things like that?
[14:32] <sdexter> 14.04 as well
[14:33] <akik> sdexter: use initctl i think that was the command for upstart
[14:34] <thor_> python support for Vim 8.x??? how does that work? Or do I have to downgrade? not a Vim expert, so I find It a bit confusing.
[14:34] <sdexter> akik, thanks that did the job
[14:35] <thor_> when vim --version, I get - Python -Python3. Is there any way to add those to vim?
[14:37] <ducasse> thor_: why not ask in #vim?
[14:38] <OerHeks> ubuntu is @ vim 2:7.4.1829-1ubuntu2 , no 8 yet
[14:39] <mcphail> thor_: install one of the full vim versions, such as vim-nox
[14:39] <OerHeks> If you get vim-nox, you'll have python 3 support: sudo apt-get install vim-nox
[14:39] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/775059/vim-python-support-on-ubuntu-16-04
[14:39] <Cristian_> a
[14:40] <Cristian_> anyone know how can i chose my  ident in order to connect on my psybnc ? :D
[14:40] <Cristian_> i use xchat gnome
[14:43] <|VAH|-BlueTu> hello niggers
[14:44]  * genii makes more coffee
[14:45] <Actaz> Hey guys
[14:46] <Actaz> Is it possible to auto-hibernate a bluetooth device?
[14:48] <BluesKaj> usually BT devices have an on/off switch :-)
[14:48] <Actaz> not a PS3 gamepad unfortunatly
[14:49] <Actaz> I use it with Kodi and I'd like it to auto-switch off after 5 min, to save power.
[14:52] <donofrio> anyone know how to get my battery to get to 100% it's says full at 70% "Battery    BAT0: charge: 38.9 Wh 97.7% condition: 39.8/56.0 Wh (71%) model: Sony ASMB012 status: Full" (http://apaste.info/GQqdY)
[14:53] <thor_> mcphail: Thanks :) that I will do. Have a nice day.
[14:54] <psam> helo everyone, anyone jst newbie to linux and i am liking the flow of elementary
[15:06] <chrisml> is changing the root password the same as changing the sudo password?
[15:06] <bindi> Actaz: in bluez.conf you can specify that
[15:06] <bindi> Actaz: http://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Set_up_PS3_BD_Remote
[15:06] <bindi> or input.conf whatever :p
[15:06] <OerHeks> chrisml, no. rootpassword is disabled now.
[15:07] <bindi> Actaz: IdleTimeout=60. I found (2 years ago) that it was actually in minutes and not in seconds, so try IdleTimeout=1 (at first 1 min, and then change to your desired value)
[15:07] <bindi> Actaz: you dont need any of the patches mentioned in there i think
[15:08] <donofrio> chrisml, no one needs root anymore
[15:08] <nacc> donofrio: that's probably a hardware issue
[15:09] <chrisml> i need to change the sudo password for a user, but don't know the existing one :P
[15:09] <nacc> chrisml: 'the sudo password' for a user is that user's password
[15:09] <chrisml> yep
[15:09] <bindi> chrisml: there's no "sudo" password, each user has their own password and if they're in the sudoers file (or group), they can use sudo with their password
[15:09] <bindi> are you saying you dont know your own password?
[15:09] <bindi> you can just do sudo passwd <user2> if you are <user1> and have rights to sudo
[15:09] <nacc> chrisml: presuming you also are sudo on that system, and know your password, you can `sudo passwd <user>` ?
[15:10] <chrisml> taking over a server from a previous dev, can't contact him, client doesn't know the password either
[15:10] <bindi> chrisml: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[15:10] <OerHeks> oh dear, i hope not encrypted disk then
[15:32] <adroit_machine> how do I install ubuntu using uefi mode?
[15:33] <genesis_> hello
[15:33] <genesis_> hello!
[15:38] <sacarde> hi
[15:39] <sacarde> Canonical Livepatch Service is usable on desktop 16.04?
[15:39] <OerHeks> sacarde, yes.
[15:40] <sacarde> OerHeks, I have error: canonical-livepatch: command not found
[15:41] <OerHeks> use sudo perhaps?
[15:41] <sacarde> but "sudo snap list" return: canonical-livepatch  v.5
[15:42] <OerHeks> after getting your token, ofcourse
[15:42] <sacarde> of course
[15:42] <sacarde> I have error on service:
[15:42] <sacarde> livepatch.canonical-livepatchd.service
[15:43] <Actaz> bindi: Thank you, but it doesn't work. I put IdleTimeout=1 in /etc/bluetooth/input.conf but the device doesn't hibernate.
[15:43] <Guest42448> ok
[15:43] <OerHeks> sudo canonical-livepatch status
[15:43] <sacarde> failed to start service can to start service can to start service canonical-livepatchd for snap canonical-livepatchonical-livepatchd for snap canonical-livepatchonical-livepatchd for snap canonical-livepatch
[15:44] <sacarde> ops
[15:44] <slabgrha> i'm having an odd issue when installing packages.  i'm building an AMI image with packer using the base 14.04 ubuntu image.  when packer is executing, i get "E: Unable to locate package awscli" ... if i just create an image and try to add that package manually, it's found.
[15:44] <sacarde> OerHeks, command not found
[15:45] <OerHeks> sacarde, strange ..
[15:46] <sacarde> I have to upgrade my system?
[15:46] <OerHeks> just update, this service is not available for 16.10 afaik
[15:47] <OerHeks> sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[15:47] <sacarde> ok
[15:47] <nacc> OerHeks: but that shouldn't matter for the snap
[15:48] <OerHeks> service is not running, and find no clue on kirks page
[15:48] <OerHeks> http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/10/canonical-livepatch.html
[15:49] <nacc> sacarde: can you pastebin `sudo service canonical-livepatch status` ?
[15:49] <nacc> sacarde: ah but wait, you said you couldn't even run` sudo canonical-livepatch enable` ?
[15:49] <OerHeks> he said command not found :-(
[15:49] <Pici> OerHeks: dirkland's page does have a FAQ item about 16.10.
[15:50] <bindi> Actaz: did you set it under [General] or under the devices mac address?
[15:51] <ouzhnzn> selam
[15:51] <OerHeks> Pici, thanks, didn't notice that.
[15:51] <ouzhnzn> linuxtan anlayan var mı
[15:51] <ouzhnzn> #bursa
[15:52] <sacarde> I try to remove and reinstall: canonical-livepatch
[15:52] <nacc> sacarde: can you pastebin the output?
[15:55] <sacarde> nacc, http://sacarde.altervista.org/np/err1
[15:55] <Diplomat> Hey guys, can anyone help me.. I have a big file where all json objects are on 1 row.. so I want to have them 1 object per row.. and I'm using: tr '}, ' '\}\n' < test.file but for some reason it adds 2 line breaks any ideas why ?
[15:55] <slabgrha> are the sources.list for ubuntu somehow limited during the initial boot of the base Ubuntu AMI?
[15:56] <nacc> slabgrha: you may want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[15:57] <Diplomat> Here's the output: http://paste.ofcode.org/jiNSFDxgugUh2cw2Z3pcLH
[15:57] <slabgrha> nacc: thanks!
[15:57] <sacarde> afk
[15:57] <Actaz> bindi: I tried both, no one works
[15:57] <nacc> sacarde: did you upgrade from 14.04? I have a feeling /snap/bin is not in your $PATH
[15:58] <nacc> sacarde: i've seen that a few times, but not been able to figure out why
[15:58] <nacc> sacarde: there should be afile in /etc/profile.d called apps-bin-path.sh that has PATH=$PATH:/snap/bin
[15:58] <jelly> Diplomat: tr doesn't do what you want it to.  Use sed (or perl) to replace a string with another, eg.:  sed 's/}, /}\n/g'
[15:58] <nacc> sacarde: if that's not there, please ping me back
[15:59] <adroit_machine> how do I install ubuntu using uefi mode?
[16:01] <bindi> Actaz: did you restart bluez after it? not sure if you have to do that
[16:01] <sacarde> nacc, I reach "snap"
[16:02] <sacarde> but "sudo snap list" return: canonical-livepatch  v.5
[16:02] <Actaz> bindi: I even reboot the PC
[16:02] <sacarde> see youlater
[16:03] <bindi> Actaz: sorry, i dont know then. it was 2 years ago when i had ps3 remote running
[16:07] <nacc> sacarde: snap is not in /snap/bin
[16:07] <nacc> sacarde: but the snaps installed are
[16:07] <nacc> sacarde: please read through what i wrote earlier and confirm exactly that
[16:09] <Actaz> bindi: thank you anyway :)
[16:13] <CtrlC> Is there any way to have a non interactive "dpkg-reconfigure locales"?
[16:23] <Mamah_Borthwick> anyone here use policykit with AD groups?
[16:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[16:32] <Maxaroth> hello
[16:33] <Maxaroth> this is the ubuntu help irc thing
[16:33] <Maxaroth> right?
[16:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> maxaroth yep
[16:33] <stephi1287> Bonsoir à tous
[16:33] <Maxaroth> thanks
[16:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> stephi1287,  english
[16:34] <Maxaroth> i was having an issue with Ubuntu 16.10 32bit
[16:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !details
[16:34] <stephi1287> oh sorry, hello
[16:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Maxaroth, what issues?
[16:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> stephi1287, hi
[16:34] <Maxaroth> well the xserver is randomly crasking
[16:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Maxaroth, in which?
[16:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ther'es both unity 7 and unity 8 in that one
[16:35] <Maxaroth> which what?
[16:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> unity 8 actsaully runs mir
[16:35] <Maxaroth> oh
[16:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> by default should be unity 7 on xorg still though
[16:35] <Maxaroth> the default one
[16:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> but there's also the optional unity 8 session that actsaully runs on mir instead of xorg
[16:35] <Maxaroth> ya 7
[16:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> how does it crash
[16:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> when
[16:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ?
[16:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> with what graphics card as well
[16:36] <Maxaroth> my card is onboard
[16:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> which make?
[16:36] <Maxaroth> hp
[16:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> no not for your graphis card
[16:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hp don't do graphics card
[16:36] <Maxaroth> oh
[16:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> it will probably be a Intel
[16:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> AMD/ATI
[16:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> OR nvidia
[16:36] <Maxaroth> one sec
[16:37] <SebthreeBQM10HD> in fact running lspci in the terminal should give basic info for that and other hardware
[16:37] <ioria> Maxaroth, lspci -k | grep VGA -A 3
[16:37] <SebthreeBQM10HD> or ok even better and thanks ioria
[16:37] <ioria> ·þ
[16:38] <Yiota> how do I install python3.5.2 without overwriting the system python?
[16:39] <nacc> Yiota: what version of ubuntu?
[16:39] <Yiota> 14.04
[16:39] <Maxaroth> Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kaveri [Radeon R7 Graphics]
[16:39] <Maxaroth> that is it
[16:39] <nacc> Yiota: from Ubuntu, only 3.4.0 is available in 14.04
[16:40] <nacc> Yiota: you would need to build from source of look for a PPA, but be cautious
[16:40] <Yiota> nacc I've overwritten the sys link before...
[16:40] <ioria> Yiota, there is deadsnakes ppa
[16:41] <Yiota> ioria this has to run on prod, any safety issues with deadsnakes?
[16:41] <airking> I accidentally changed the path in my shell, and now no commands work
[16:41] <airking> I cannot reboot
[16:41] <airking> how can I fix this?
[16:41] <ioria> Yiota, don't know, really sorry
[16:41] <Yiota> omg this DDOS
[16:42] <nacc> Yiota: you should read the disclaimer: https://launchpad.net/~fkrull/+archive/ubuntu/deadsnakes
[16:42] <assmunch> [ Old and New Python Versions : Felix Krull ] - launchpad.net
[16:42] <airking> nvm
[16:42] <airking> restarted shell, all good
[16:42] <airking> I do need to add something to my path though
[16:42] <BabyMax> uh... O_O
[16:42] <genii> airking: ctrl-alt-f1 log in there and issue your reboot command with sudo
[16:42] <airking> I installed anaconda, I need to be able to access jupyter
[16:42] <airking> genii: it's fixed, I was a moron
[16:42] <airking> genii: what file do I edit to add other things to my path?
[16:42] <nacc> airking: what is anaconda?
[16:43] <airking> nacc: it installs jupyter
[16:43] <airking> for ipython
[16:43] <BabyMax> Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kaveri [Radeon R7 Graphics]
[16:43] <xXEoflaOEXx> nacc: Fedora Installer
[16:43] <nacc> xXEoflaOEXx: right, which would be offtopic for ubuntu :) i'm assumig it's a naming collision
[16:43] <BabyMax> there ya go my graphics card
[16:43] <nacc> airking: you don't edit a file to add things to your path
[16:43] <nacc> airking: at least not necessarily; you modify PATH
[16:43] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BabyMax, hmmm AMD
[16:44] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BabyMax, I can't help that much, but may be a propritayr driver to install for that card even
[16:44] <airking> nacc: so I need to add /home/airking/anaconda3/bin to my path, what would I do?
[16:44] <airking> nacc: I would also like it to be permanent
[16:44] <SebthreeBQM10HD> BabyMax, with what  it uss by default could crash, depending on the card
[16:44] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !amd
[16:44] <assmunch> [WIKIPEDIA] List of AMD graphics processing units | "This page contains general information about the GPUs and video cards by Advanced Micro Devices (AMD), including those by ATI Technologies before 2006, based on official specifications in table form...."
[16:44] <assmunch> [ BinaryDriverHowto/AMD - Community Help Wiki ] - help.ubuntu.com
[16:44] <BabyMax> can i have help installing the driver please
[16:45] <nacc> should we kill that bot?
[16:45] <OerHeks> !intel
[16:45] <OerHeks> nacc, yes
[16:45] <airking> nacc: it looks like I edit .bash_profile?
[16:46] <nacc> airking: export PATH=$PATH:/home/airking/anaconda3/bin
[16:46] <airking> nacc: isn't that not permanent?
[16:46] <nacc> airking: you can do that from the terminal or put it in your .bash_profile
[16:46] <airking> nacc: does it go at the top of the file or the en?
[16:46] <airking> end*
[16:47] <nacc> airking: it might depend on what is already in the file, but it shouldn't matter
[16:47] <airking> nacc: also I don't have .bash_profile, just .profile
[16:47] <airking> nacc: is that okay?
[16:47] <nacc> airking: sorry, put it in .bashrc
[16:47] <airking> nacc: don't have that
[16:47] <airking> nacc: nevermind
[16:47] <airking> I do have that
[16:50] <brunch875> join #django
[16:50] <brunch875> whoops missing slash
[16:53] <Maxaroth> oh another thing
[16:53] <Maxaroth> my ubuntu randomly says UBUNTU 16.10 HAS ENCOUNTERED AN INTERNAL ERROR
[16:55] <xXEoflaOEXx> Maybe something has randomly crashed on 16.10, Maxaroth, Please tell us what is the app about to crash randomly? Did you upgrade or did a fresh install?
[16:55] <Maxaroth> well it doesnt say any app it just randomly does it and this is an upgrade
[16:56] <Maxaroth> i have gone from 14.04.1 to 15.10 to 16.04 to 16.04.1 to 16.10
[16:56] <xXEoflaOEXx> Maxaroth: Do you have the details button
[16:56] <NOVATechies> Maxaroth: the daily 17.04 realease is out now
[16:56] <Maxaroth> ya
[16:57] <Maxaroth> yay torrent is done
[16:57] <xXEoflaOEXx> NOVATechies: If you want to ask about Zesty Zapus (development branch), Ask on #ubuntu+1
[16:58] <NOVATechies> xXEoflaOEXx: i'm not asking I'm just saying it is out
[16:58] <Maxaroth> is it stable?
[16:58] <xXEoflaOEXx> NOVATechies: I know but it is out.
[16:59] <NOVATechies> Maxaroth: not officially.
[16:59] <Maxaroth> k
[16:59] <OerHeks> bringing up  17.04 alfa is not helpfull.
[17:00] <Maxaroth> wait why did you want the details?
[17:01] <xXEoflaOEXx> OerHeks: 17.04 development branch is not always stable I thought
[17:01] <tgm4883> There's no reason to bring up 17.04 in this channel. If you want to discuss 17.04 issues, take it to #ubuntu+1. This channel is for supporting current releases only
[17:02] <Maxaroth> xXEoflaOEXx, you wanted the details
[17:02] <xXEoflaOEXx> Maxaroth: If the dialog box appeared about internal error, Look for Details button and then please wait to see more details
[17:03] <Maxaroth> oooh
[17:03] <OerHeks> random crashed should be in your logs, syslog.1 kern.log.1 dmesg.0
[17:03] <Maxaroth> i thought you ment the system details
[17:04] <xXEoflaOEXx> Maxaroth: I did not mean the system details, wait for a minute
[17:04] <Maxaroth> k well i have to wait for the box to come up again
[17:11] <update> update support ?
[17:13] <update> onko täällä ketään, joka voisi auttaa päivityksiin liittyvän ongelman kanssa?
[17:14] <fqtw> on linux how can i get a list of open ports that no service is listening on?
[17:14] <Southern_Gentlem> run a nessus scan on the box
[17:15] <update> can anyone help on latest ubuntu 14 updates?
[17:16] <backbox> ubuntu 14 but the last update is the ubuntu 14.1 lts
[17:17] <backbox> update?
[17:18] <Pici> backbox: 14.10 is not an LTS
[17:18] <backbox> no?
[17:18] <nacc> backbox: 14.1 isn't even a thing :)
[17:18] <Pici> That too
[17:19] <backbox> well.....i wrong
[17:19] <Maxaroth> help with kylin?
[17:19] <xXEoflaOEXx> Pici: Yes, it is not
[17:19] <backbox> i don t understand kylin
[17:19] <sudo> Hello! Does anyone know, why the latest Ubuntu14LTS update would want to change /etc/sudoers
[17:19] <fqtw> Southern_Gentlem: isnt there a command to get the list of ports that are open in the firewall, and then subtract the ones that services are listening on?
[17:19] <OerHeks> Maxaroth, just ask, wait and see
[17:20] <uebera||> sudo: Normally, the update will prompt whether to accept the changes, so you can have a look?
[17:20] <backbox> and i you chose that ubuntu? you are japonese? or something
[17:21] <sudo> The updates window showed empty - which is suspicious.. So I did not apply changes. Can I see the proposed change somewhere, and the reason?
[17:21] <fqtw> Southern_Gentlem: what happens when a service tries to listen on the same port as another service thats already listening?
[17:22] <Southern_Gentlem> lsof
[17:22] <Mathisen> fqtw, sudo netstat -tulpn
[17:22] <Southern_Gentlem> or net-stat
[17:22] <fqtw> Southern_Gentlem: that gets the list of services listening but how to get the list of open ports in the firewall?
[17:23] <Mathisen> fqtw, sudo ufw status
[17:23] <uebera||> sudo: There's "apt-get changelog sudo"
[17:24] <jakereye> hmm
[17:24] <fqtw_> sry, got disconnected
[17:24] <fqtw_> Southern_Gentlem: that gets the list of services listening but how to get the list of open ports in the firewall?
[17:24] <jakereye> I'm having a bit of a problem. I'm using 4 monitor setup, in which one monitor is on portrait mode
[17:25] <jakereye> the thing is that icons on my desktop that should be on the main monitor  go outside of the monitor to the height where the portrait mode monitors height would be
[17:26] <jakereye> and then at the bottom they go under outside the main monitor the same amount
[17:27] <jakereye> anyone encountered the same problem
[17:27] <ID100T> fqtw_:when there is an open port there is a service attached too it, there is no such thing as open port without a service..
[17:28] <jakereye> i'm using 16.04 with unity
[17:28] <ID100T> you can scan for open ports (services) with nmap
[17:28] <ID100T> It is the service that opens a port
[17:28] <sudo> Mathisen: got it.. ufw is active. Now what was the site to copy-paste text from ufw log
[17:29] <Mathisen> sudo, ?
[17:30] <sudo> Mathisen: to share you the log from "netstat -tulpn"
[17:30] <Mathisen> sudo, cat you just look yourself.. you should see listening ports there
[17:30] <Mathisen> cant*
[17:31] <Mathisen> otherwise > https://paste.ubuntu.com/
[17:31] <fqtw> whats a good way to set env vars like db password for a server? so that other users on the system cant see them
[17:32] <Mathisen> or sudo apt install pastebinit && sudo ufw status | pastebinit
[17:33] <sudo> Mathisen: right.. that was it. see http://pastebin.com/GhUewtr7
[17:35] <nacc> fqtw: you don't set db passwords in the environment
[17:35] <fqtw> nacc: then how?
[17:37] <Hasselsaurus> Hey all, how can I upgrade an Ubuntu MATE 16.04 install to 16.10?
[17:43] <fqtw> if my server needs db credentials in env vars, should i set them in .bash_profile ?
[17:43] <Southern_Gentlem> what db
[17:45] <fqtw> Southern_Gentlem: postgres
[17:45] <fqtw> but it doesnt matter what db
[17:45] <fqtw> other credentials too
[17:45] <fqtw> not just db
[17:47] <applepi> Hi all - I'm trying to make a metapackage deb for some custom stuff I'm working on, but I'd like it to not suggest autoremoving all the packages if a user removes one of the packages in the metapackage.
[17:47] <applepi> (e.g., if the metapacakge pulls in A and B, and the user removes A, apt suggests/will autoremove B.)
[17:47] <mcphail> Isn't that the desired behaviour? If a user has already manually installed a package, removing the metapackage won't affect it
[17:48] <mcphail> (asi I understand it, anyway)
[17:49] <tgm4883> applepi: that's the way metapackages work. It will suggest removing them, but only remove them if told to do so
[17:49] <applepi> Well it recommends removing the metapackage AND all the packages it pulled down.
[17:49] <tgm4883> applepi: yes, that's how apt works
[17:50] <tgm4883> applepi: apt suggests removing packages that you didn't explicitly install when the thing you did explicitly install has been removed
[17:53] <mcphail> applepi: if the user want different behaviour, (s)he can use apt-mark
[17:54] <applepi> mcphail:  oooh.  interesting.
[17:54] <applepi> I'll take a look at that, I've never seen apt-mark before.
[17:57] <mcphail> applepi: I'm vaguely aware there are other ways users can tweak the default behaviour of apt to preserve or remove automatically installed packages
[17:58] <vemium> hi
[17:59] <SonikkuAmerica> vemium: Welcome! Ask your question, please.
[18:02] <debkad> was about to ask to remove something but found it here: /usr/lib/firefox/distribution/searchplugins/locale/../google.xml
[18:06] <G3nka1> hey folks I am running ubuntu 16.10 and forgot my mysql password so I removed it and did a fresh install of sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.7 but this is the following error I am getting http://sprunge.us/dPPE  any idea how to fix this ?
[18:09] <TheNH813> How do i enable a custom keymap at the login screen?
[18:09] <wafflejock> G3nka1, run the journalctl command there to get more details
[18:11] <TheNH813> Any suggestions on that?
[18:12] <TheNH813> Can you run xmodmap at the login screen?
[18:12] <wafflejock> TheNH813, what are you trying to accomplish in particular?
[18:13] <TheNH813> Enable a variant of the colemak keymap at the login screen.
[18:15] <wafflejock> TheNH813, think ubuntu is using xkb, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Custom%20keyboard%20layout%20definitions?action=show&redirect=Howto%3A+Custom+keyboard+layout+definitions looks like there may be a built in keymap for it https://colemak.com/Unix
[18:15] <wafflejock> TheNH813, would guess since that's directly in X it would be enabled/working as soon as X itself is started but dunno
[18:16] <TheNH813> I'l look at that, thanks.
[18:18] <wafflejock> TheNH813, no prob let me know how that works out, haven't messed with xkb myself
[18:19] <TheNH813> I find xkb to be rather messy. But, Il figure it out.
[18:23] <vemium> HI there, i need help with my ubuntu
[18:23] <bekks> !ask | vemium
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> vemium  let's hear it, in one line
[18:24] <ducasse> TheNH813: iirc, you could configure the keymap the x server will use in an xorg.conf snippet under /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[18:24] <vemium> I just installed ubuntu mate, it's not accepting my password
[18:24] <vemium> Few times worked
[18:25] <TheNH813> Is numlock on?
[18:25] <Guest41925> vemium, try it with CAPS on? incase CAPS was on when you entered it first time
[18:25] <bekks> vemium: So you are entering the wrong password. Check wether caps lock is pressed, check numlock too.
[18:25] <vemium> still doesn't work
[18:26] <bekks> So its still the wrong password.
[18:26] <bekks> vemium: I suggest booting a live cd and resetting your password.
[18:26] <TheNH813> ducasse: Yeah, using xorg.conf.d is what i intend to.
[18:26] <vemium> Yes, i used sudo command to install something, and it worked and after that i doesnt
[18:27] <Guest41925> vemium, a reinstall isn't a big deal really. sure, you can follow bekks' suggestion and you WILL learn something. but if you are intimidated by that, reinstall and write the pass down. :P
[18:27] <OerHeks> vemium, you mean after the 2nd sudo you didn't get the password line?
[18:28] <OerHeks> there is a timer that allows sudo to be executed, 5 minutes iirc
[18:29] <vemium> After second sudo every time i enter it it is wrong password
[18:30] <TheNH813> ducasse: Basically, for ergonomic reasons I wanted dvorak or colemak. Turns out colemak was better for me as ZXCV are in the same place. And you know, undo cut copy paste shortcuts are important. Looks like /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d dosen't exist. Do I put a folder of file there?
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
[18:31] <vemium> I am 100% certain that i enter correct one, i was hoping for quicker solution than that
[18:31] <ducasse> TheNH813: just put a valid snippet there
[18:31] <TheNH813> ???
[18:31] <ducasse> TheNH813: (in a file)
[18:31] <TheNH813> Wnat's with the random spam?
[18:32] <Pici> TheNH813: MonkeyDust dropped a cat on his keyboard.
[18:32] <TheNH813> LOL
[18:32] <TheNH813> duncasse: Ok, will do.
[18:33] <ducasse> TheNH813: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d itself is a dir, though (as indicated by the .d)
[18:33] <TheNH813> Ah, ok, wasnt sure, but thought so. Thanks
[18:35] <TheNH813> duncasse: Would I just put a file with the usual:
[18:35] <TheNH813> Section "InputDevice"
[18:35] <TheNH813> In it?
[18:36] <ducasse> TheNH813: yes, that should be it.
[18:43] <Guest41925> Hi. Ubuntu 16.10. I've noticed this on desktop as well as server. This seems to be the stock settings in both distros(server/desktop). http://i.imgur.com/AbLPL00.png  --  Do I need to have the hourly one since it is running nothing? does this do-nothing task spin up a hdd on a server? Curious.
[18:44] <Pici> cd /etc/cron.daily/
[18:44] <Pici> ls
[18:44] <Pici> ...
[18:44] <Pici> Guest41925: no, it doesn't. and you should leave it there so that if you install something that does take advatage of cron.hourly, that it actually runs.
[18:46] <Guest41925> Pici, why did you suggest ls of that dir? unless I missed something, i don't understand the relevance. Thanks.
[18:46] <Pici> Guest41925: I forgot which window I was typing it, it wasn't a suggestion.
[18:46] <Guest41925> ah ok
[19:01] <FoeHammered> In your opinions, what's the best frontend for setting up a samba network thingy?
[19:01] <tgm4883> FoeHammered: vi
[19:01] <Guest41925> FoeHammered, huh? frontend?
[19:02] <genii> FoeHammered: In other words... use a text editor to edit it's .conf file
[19:02] <ioria> FoeHammered, if you ask me, edit smb.conf
[19:02] <FoeHammered> I mean to say, I think I've tried the "vi" approach and fallen short for lack of a clear understanding of what I'm doing. Which probably means I should learn more or not do it, but there's a lot of convenience to having the ability to just drag and drop folders and files back and forth.
[19:03] <FoeHammered> Like, I managed to make it work once, then never had it work again.
[19:03] <FoeHammered> So I'm hoping for something that'll do the work for me, at least once, competently.
[19:03] <Guest41925> FoeHammered, i strongly suggest setting up in a text editor. It will somewhat force you to comprehend what is going on.
[19:04] <FoeHammered> Guest41925, Well, thing is, I really have tried that, followed the instructions, and it just didn't work.
[19:04] <FoeHammered> Guest41925, So I figure I could do it the hard way and have it not work and I learn nothing again, or I could do it an easy way and have it work and maybe learn something.
[19:04] <Guest41925> FoeHammered, well you can start by pasting your smb.conf to pastebin and posting the URL here
[19:05] <ioria> FoeHammered, https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/samba-server-ubuntu-16-04/
[19:05] <TheNH813> Well, it dosen't work. X ignores keyboard settings in /etc/X11
[19:05] <FoeHammered> Guest41925, It's been a few reinstalls since I tried, so I'll do that if I find it.
[19:05] <Guest41925> I do have a no-BS smb.conf file I keep around. but it is mainly for those who just want a share. darn the torpedoes.
[19:05] <TheNH813> I did find a way that works though. Anything set in text input settings appears on the login screen. How do I register a custom keymap into that?
[19:06]  * FoeHammered nods.
[19:06]  * reisio nods betterer
[19:06] <TheNH813> I put it in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols but it dosen't show up in text entry settinbgs
[19:06] <FoeHammered> Guest41925, may I see said file, so that I can learn from it?
[19:06] <Guest41925> FoeHammered, sure.. swec.
[19:07]  * FoeHammered clicks the tutorial link, too.
[19:07] <ioria> FoeHammered,  n.b. in that link 'useradd till -G smbgrp' i think is wrong, use usermod
[19:08] <FoeHammered> Well. That wouldn't help...
[19:08] <FoeHammered> Noted, thanks, ioria.
[19:08] <ioria> FoeHammered,  yrwlc
[19:08] <r063r1> I am trying to install a disk image of ubuntu 16.04 and it asks me if i want to burn it as a file or just the contents which do I choose
[19:09] <tommi> Burn it with rufus
[19:10] <Guest41925> FoeHammered, http://pastebin.com/Chu1cepd
[19:10] <TheNH813> ducasse: You still there? How do I make a keymap appear in text input settings now? The xorg.conf.d method didn't work, but I noticed anything set in text entry settings also shows up at the login screen.
[19:10] <FoeHammered> Guest41925, Gracias.
[19:11] <pirate21994> hi
[19:11] <TheNH813> I put it in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols, but it won't show up.
[19:15] <r063r1> I do not have rufus installed all that I have is Brasero
[19:15] <EriC^^> r063r1: use dd
[19:15] <EriC^^> like a man
[19:15] <ocorcoran> lol
[19:15] <EriC^^> sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M && sync
[19:16] <EriC^^> :D
[19:16] <whoami_> hey
[19:19] <Guest41925> r063r1, if you do use dd, feel free to post the command here BEFORE you issue it.
[19:24] <Random832> dd is overrated
[19:24] <Random832> 90% of things people use dd for, cp works just fine
[19:25] <Oditero> Hello ! I'm in a real need of help to setup my samba server running in ubuntu 16.04.1. I finally got it working and can access it from all dekstops (windows & macs) on the network, but none of them can write on the share. I checked dozens of topics on internet about permissions, etc., but I couldn't find what is wrong with my setup
[19:25] <r063r1> what is dd
[19:26] <r063r1> eric\
[19:26] <Haris> hello al
[19:26] <Haris> all
[19:26] <Oditero> My share is a on a second HD (mounted /dev/disk/by-uuid/62bd0d6c-a140-408d-a292-c91812b40e75 /media/odin/ARCDD auto nosuid,nodev,nofail 0 0 )
[19:28] <Oditero> my smb.conf is : [ARCDD] path = /media/odin/ARCDD public = yes force user = filesharing valid users = filesharing revalidate = yes read only = no create mask = 0777 directory mask = 0777
[19:28] <ioria> r063r1, man dd
[19:28] <Oditero> the whole /media/odin/ARCDD is owned by filesharing, group is sambashare, filesharing is in sambashare group
[19:28] <Guest41925> Random832, so using cp to dump an .iso is practical? Yeah.......
[19:29] <Oditero> To try, it also have 777 permissions on all files... yet I can't delete or add a file to the samba share from other desktops on the network
[19:29] <Oditero> Would be really grateful is someone could help :x
[19:29] <Random832> Guest41925: i'd be concerned for timing issues with writing to disk, but i wouldn't use dd either.
[19:29] <Random832> for reading from the disk and making the .iso file, yes, cp /dev/sdX file.iso should work fine.
[19:29] <Guest41925> Oditero, post on pastebin.org
[19:29] <OerHeks> just sync after dd, and you are fine. cp works too to usb.
[19:30] <Oditero> Guest41925: post which one ?
[19:30] <Guest41925> smb.conf
[19:30] <Oditero> Guest41925: http://pastebin.com/4BM3GERc
[19:30] <k-r4d> i like ubuntu because canonical keeps my kernel up to date
[19:32] <Guest41925> Oditero, is /media/odin/ARCDD owned by filesharing:filesharing ?
[19:32] <Oditero> No, it's owned by filesharing:sambashare but filesharing user is in sambashare group
[19:33] <Guest41925> Oditero, is your main goal just one big open share with full permission?
[19:33] <Oditero> No it wasn't, it became like that because I slowly granted more and more permissions, but still I couldn't get write access from other desktops on the network
[19:37] <Oditero> atm permissions are crazy : drwxrwxrwx 4 filesharing sambashare 4096 oct.  24 19:06 ARCDD :p
[19:38] <ioria> Oditero, did you set a passwd for filesharing user ?
[19:39] <Oditero> On the local system, it does have one. I use it to log in from other desktops (login works)
[19:39] <Oditero> I also created it in Samba using : sudo smbpasswd -a filesharing
[19:39] <ioria> no, that's another passwd
[19:40] <ioria> no, it'sok
[19:41] <ioria> Oditero, try with writable = yes
[19:42] <ioria> Oditero, restart the services after
[19:44] <Haris> how to disable ipV6 on ubuntu 14.04 ? already tried this ( http://askubuntu.com/questions/440649/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu-14-04 )
[19:49] <Oditero> Sorry I got disconnected, didn't see anything after "[21:40] <Oditero> Actually it's the same password anyway..." >.<
[19:49] <jaapio> hi, I have an issue when my laptop goes in suspend, It won't wake up anymore
[19:49] <Oditero> smb.conf : http://pastebin.com/4BM3GERc
[19:50] <Oditero> fstab : http://pastebin.com/VJ9cdn52
[19:50] <jaapio> I don't know where to start looking what the issue could be
[19:52] <saed> hi
[19:53] <ioria> Oditero, /media/odin/ARCDD    is owned by filesharing ?
[19:53] <Oditero> Yes
[19:53] <Oditero> drwxrwxrwx 4 filesharing sambashare 4096 oct.  24 19:06 ARCDD
[19:53] <Haris> guys, anyone around ? ---> how to disable ipv6 on 14.04 ?
[19:53] <Haris> does it require reboot ?
[19:54] <ioria> Oditero so valid user should be    valid users = @sambashare    and try to writable = yes and restart the services
[19:55] <Oditero> but sambashare is the group ?
[19:55] <ioria> Oditero yes
[19:56] <Oditero> Ok, trying now
[19:56] <KingsQuest> is there a ubuntu app for facebook i suspect facebook is on a server farm ?
[19:56] <Oditero> force user = @sambashare ... too ?
[19:57] <ioria> Oditero, guess not
[19:58] <Oditero> Not working, from Windows PC it still says "You need an authorization from SAMBA/filesharing to perform blabla"
[19:59] <Oditero> Restarted with sudo service smbd restart
[19:59] <ioria> Oditero can you access and write the share from your own ubuntu box ?
[19:59] <Oditero> You mean if I log in as "filesharing" ?
[20:00] <ioria> Oditero yep
[20:00] <Oditero> Yes of course, I can
[20:00] <Oditero> Delete, add...
[20:00] <KingsQuest> since everyone is talking about winusb.  this stops windows 10 spying on linux.  winusb has been discussed is it in ubuntu ppa otherwise btw ?  https://www.dropbox.com/s/1lck0n6ik9v030w/DWS_Lite.exe?dl=1
[20:01] <th0r> Oditero, did you add filesharing to the smbpasswd file ?
[20:01] <ioria> Oditero so when you login from win (with the right credentials) , you are that user and you should be able to write
[20:01] <DVA5912> Im going to be creating a new headless server. Im looking for a good control panel and i know there is a plethora out there. What do you all use, and what would you recommend for a system that is going to be a home server (File Storage, System Backups, and Misc. Apps)
[20:02] <ioria> thom, he said passwd  already set
[20:02] <th0r> ioria, not passswd....smbpasswd....different database
[20:02] <DVA5912> And for anyone that is really adverturous... Would you recommend any of them over Fedoras web based control panel?
[20:02] <Oditero> ioria: yes...
[20:02] <Oditero> th0r: both have been set
[20:02] <ioria> th0r, he has both
[20:03] <PugaBear> Silly little question, how do I kill the ssh connection that is hanging (making the current terminal session freeze) after I switch connection?
[20:03] <JanoBot>  HI!i
[20:03] <ioria> Oditero ufw status ?
[20:04] <Oditero> ioria: disabled
[20:04] <Oditero> Before I created rule to allow samba but while investigating I decided to disable it
[20:05] <Oditero> Here is sudo pdbedit -L -v result : http://pastebin.com/dck6T8Sa
[20:05] <Pici> PugaBear: consider switching to mosh, it handles switching network connections much better than ssh does.
[20:05] <Pici> !info mosh
[20:06] <Pici> more info here: https://mosh.org/
[20:06] <JanoBot>  !help
[20:08] <th0r> Oditero, I ran into a similar problem years ago...found that windows was uppercasing the filename and/or password. You might spend a minute or two checking that possibility
[20:08] <dn`> I try to replace a string in a conf.txt - what I want to replace is static, e.g. ‘mac_addr’ and I want to pipe in with what. I’m stuck at `ifconfig | grep ether | cut -d " " -f 10 | sed s/://g` this gives me what I want to replace ‘mac_addr’ in conf.txt with - but I can’t figure out how to do that part:/ any tips?
[20:09] <Oditero> th0r: but I have the same problem from the Mac computers on the network... can't write
[20:09] <Oditero> So I really believe it to be samba/ubuntu configuration related somehow...
[20:09] <th0r> just an idea
[20:10] <FrozenSolid> so i'm having an issue with dependencies, and apt attempting to remove packages that are perfectly fine
[20:10] <FrozenSolid> now ever time i run apt upgrade, it wants to remove 3 packages, claiming they have unmet dependencies
[20:10] <JanoBot>  /help
[20:12] <FrozenSolid> http://pastebin.com/he7uCaz0
[20:13] <Oditero> It's such a mess, it's my company network :x
[20:13] <Oditero> samba server been down for days...
[20:16] <EriC^^> dn`: take that and do sed -i 's@mac_addr@$var@' conf
[20:16] <EriC^^> dn`: put what you got earlier in a variable $var and sed -i will replace the file with the new contents
[20:16] <dn`> how do I set $var?
[20:17] <EriC^^> var=$(ifconfig...)
[20:17] <dn`> ahhh to obviouse
[20:17] <dn`> thanks ;-)
[20:17] <EriC^^> no problem
[20:18] <Oditero> Ok, I'm down to a sudo apt-get purge samba* && sudo rm -rf /etc/samba/ /etc/default/samba  sudo apt-get install samba
[20:19] <Oditero> It's only the second time... ; ;
[20:25] <Oditero> But I wonder if the problem is not that the shared folder is an hard disk
[20:29] <th0r> Oditero, I share two hard drives with other computers, although they are all linux or android. I can pastebin my samba config and my mount commands if you like
[20:31] <th0r> Oditero, I had this thought originally, and will pass it along. I mount the drives with uid and gid set to the login.
[20:34] <RandomNoob> Hello guys. How to fix Brightness control ? It does not work
[20:40] <johnbo> Hello
[20:40] <johnbo> I need to talk to the CEO of ubuntu
[20:41] <blausand> Ich habe ein spezifisches Problem beim SFTP im LAN zwischen WinSCP und einem N5200 (proprietäres Linuxoid (Linux version 2.6.23N5200). [Q] In welchem Raum sollte ich um Rat bitten? [Details] Ein Verzeichnis kann von einem Laptop gelistet werden, von einem anderen nicht, gleiche Version von WinSCP, gleiche Credentials. Mit Putty kann ich das directory listen - auf beiden Rechnern.
[20:42] <blausand> [Addendum] Symptom: Gegenseite antwortet nicht mehr.
[20:42] <th0r> !de
[20:43] <blausand> danke!
[20:46] <matti> :)
[20:47] <matti> !jp
[20:47] <matti> A. Nice.
[20:50] <debkad> !dz
[20:52] <blausand> [en-EN] I have a specific problem connecting WinSCP and a NAS running Linux version 2.6.23N5200. [Q] Where on IRC would i find some troubleshooting assistance? [details] The lately populated directory can be ls-ed from main machine, not from scond one. Same version of WinSCP, same credentials. Putty can list the directory from the second machine only as long as i'm not in the directoy: ls vvvv works, cd vvvv & ls doesn't. [symptoms] server 
[20:53] <johnbo> excuse me
[20:53] <johnbo> i am looking for the CEO of ubuntu
[20:53] <debkad> johnbo: what is CEO ?
[20:54] <dax> johnbo: there is no CEO of Ubuntu
[20:55] <lillian> hi!
[20:55] <OerHeks> johnbo, ubuntu community council perhaps?
[20:56] <uvatdesk> johnbo: I doubt Mark Shuttleworth lurks on this channel
[20:58] <SunjectX> Does anyone know how to open a .IMG file on ubuntu
[20:58] <debkad> RandomNoob: tryed xbacklight ?
[20:58] <johnbo> the same guy who owns facebook owns ubuntu?
[20:59] <johnbo> omg
[20:59] <debkad> SunjectX: probably you can mount it
[20:59] <SunjectX> How
[20:59] <OerHeks> !mount
[21:00] <Soul_Sample> upgraded to 16.10 last night, works great, except that I can't access the "recent files" in Nautilus anymore, it says "unhandled error message: Message recipient disconnected from message bus without replying". any ideas?
[21:00] <OerHeks> see it as a virtual hdd
[21:00] <debkad> SunjectX: something like: mount -type something your_image.IMG /path/to/mount/in
[21:01] <guzzlefry> evening
[21:01] <th0r> SunjectX, you might look at fuseiso
[21:02] <RandomNoob> guys how to fix Brightness control?????
[21:02] <guzzlefry> So I suspect pulseaudio or something related broke during an update. Virtualbox started giving me errors regarding access to the sound system.
[21:03] <debkad> RandomNoob: explain more
[21:04] <francesco> #caserta
[21:04] <Guest1750> join #caserta
[21:05] <RandomNoob> debkad: I cant control display brightness with my laptop keys. I cant control it with little package xbacklight. It is not changing. The value is changed but actually No difference it is maximum . My eyes are hurt.
[21:05] <Guest1750> perche non mi fa cambiare stanza?
[21:06] <debkad> RandomNoob: may be you have the same issue as this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/540911/how-to-adjust-screen-brightness-in-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr
[21:07] <RandomNoob> debkad: Thanks
[21:08] <debkad> I hope that will help you :)
[21:11] <lillian> i want to connect and control my laptop, as in if i mouse around and stuff i can see that happening if i vnc in from my phone, for example
[21:11] <lillian> however, i keep getting error messages pertaining to xfce session still running or display already being in use
[21:11] <reisio> only done that with tigervnc
[21:12] <lillian> reisio, pretty easy to deploy? i might just try that
[21:12] <lillian> i've used x11vnc on freebsd
[21:12] <lillian> that was simple
[21:13] <th0r> lillian, so why not use it now?
[21:13] <reisio> tigervnc is easy, yeah
[21:13] <lillian> th0r, because i am not familiar with the ubuntu ecosystem really
[21:14] <lillian> and wanted input because i find some differences confusing
[21:14] <lillian> i'll try that out reisio
[21:23] <Smn_> guys, I every time i reboot my color profiles goes back to default, is there any way to avoid this?
[21:24] <lillian> i got it working :3
[21:24] <lillian> i wonder what the command to get it to log into the current session is hrm
[21:24] <uks> I'd save settings in a file, and then add a line to apply these settings after each restart
[21:30] <proshady> hello
[21:32] <jesperson> Hey guys, I'm having a really weird problem.. I can't click on certain applications but not all the time... I can not see any reason why this would be the case - could someone help me?
[21:33] <tgm4883> jesperson: mouse battery running low?
[21:34] <jesperson> Wired mouse
[21:34] <r00t_> hello
[21:34] <r00t_> will anyone help me?
[21:35] <r00t_> NVIDIA will not
[21:35] <jesperson> tgm4883, and my mouse can always move - just not always click
[21:35] <r00t_> I bought a GT730 because my GTX550 stopped working
[21:35] <r00t_> I have 32 bit ubuntu install
[21:35] <r00t_> I installed the latest 32 bit driver
[21:35] <r00t_> it did not work
[21:35] <r00t_> I get a black screen
[21:35] <r00t_> WHAT THE FUK!!!!
[21:35] <r00t_> WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK!!!
[21:36] <r00t_> this has never happend
[21:36] <pwca> hi, I am watching Netflix in Google Chrome on Ubuntu. quality is bad. how do I improve?
[21:36] <r00t_> nvidia always works
[21:36] <tgm4883> !ohmy | r00t_
[21:36] <r00t_> tgm4883: can you help me?
[21:36] <pwca> there was a shortcut I used in the past, but it doesn't work anymore.
[21:36] <r00t_> tgm4883: ??????
[21:36] <jesperson> r00t_, Did you install it properly? No error messages?
[21:36] <tgm4883> r00t_: chill out
[21:36] <r00t_> correct
[21:36] <r00t_> no error messages
[21:36] <tgm4883> r00t_: how did you install the driver
[21:36] <r00t_> just run the installer with X0rg shut down
[21:37] <jesperson> r00t_, do you have the driver as an option in the additional drivers section?
[21:37] <pwca> tgm4883: I think the shortcut was CTRL + ALT + SHIFT + C.
[21:37] <r00t_> chmod 755 NVIDIA363blablabla.run
[21:37] <pwca> tgm4883: maybe it was the buffering settings?
[21:37] <tgm4883> r00t_: why not use the built in driver utility
[21:37] <r00t_>  ./Nvidia363blablabla.run
[21:37] <r00t_> tgm4883: I have always just used nvidia
[21:37] <r00t_> and I have an old ubuntu
[21:37] <r00t_> from 2012
[21:37] <tgm4883> r00t_: what version?
[21:38] <r00t_> I don't know, what file would I look at?
[21:38] <r00t_>  /var/version?
[21:38] <r00t_> * /etc/version
[21:38] <bindi> r00t: lsb_release -a
[21:38] <r00t_> bindi: black screen
[21:38] <r00t_> that won't help me
[21:38] <pwca> bindi: my version is 15.04.
[21:38] <jesperson> tgm4883, do you have any idea as to what my problem could be?
[21:38] <r00t_> I need to look at a file
[21:38] <tgm4883> r00t_: how can you look at a file if you have a black screen?
[21:39] <r00t_> I cannot do anything as the X driver won't work and CTRL+1,2,3 doesn't wor either
[21:39] <tgm4883> r00t_: you mean, ctrl+F1 ?
[21:39] <r00t_> tgm4883: booting the disc via rescue
[21:39] <r00t_> live cd
[21:39] <r00t_> doesn't use nvidia drivers, uses vesa
[21:39] <r00t_> so no black screen
[21:39] <r00t_> tgm4883: yes: with nvidia drivers even the consoles don't work
[21:40] <r00t_> black everything
[21:40] <tgm4883> r00t_: don't use a live CD, boot into recovery from grub
[21:40] <tgm4883> jesperson: sorry I don't, unless. Do you have a headset plugged in?
[21:40] <tgm4883> jesperson: I had a similiar issues with a plantronics usb headset
[21:40] <pwca> oh, the shortcut was CTRL + ALT + SHIFT + S.
[21:41] <jesperson> I have a headset plugged in, a corsair void but I've added a section in the xorg file to disable the headset as an inputdevice
[21:41] <pwca> thanks for nothing, tgm4883.
[21:41] <jesperson> pwca, lol - so passive-aggressive
[21:41] <tgm4883> pwca: I don't think I was ever trying to help you...
[21:41] <pwca> exactly.
[21:42] <pwca> I wish I was popular like r00t_.
[21:42] <tgm4883> pwca: now that you have that fixed, maybe take a long walk off a short pier
[21:42] <r00t_> 8.04.4 LTS
[21:42] <bindi> r00t_: wtf?
[21:42] <r00t_> tgm4883: Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS
[21:42] <bindi> back up your files and install 16.04
[21:42] <tgm4883> r00t_: omg, that's from 2008, not 2012
[21:43] <jesperson> r00t_, Why are you using such an incredibly outdated version?
[21:43] <pwca> maybe he's into cyberpunk.
[21:43] <r00t_> 32 bit support for the opensource videogame I contribute to
[21:43] <tgm4883> r00t_: I wouldn't be surprised if the driver you installed doesn't support what you have installed
[21:43] <tgm4883> r00t_: um, there is 32-bit versions of newer releases
[21:43] <jesperson> tgm4883, +1
[21:44] <r00t_> well I am happy with the release I have on that computer
[21:44] <r00t_> so I have to sue Nvidia?
[21:44] <bindi> enjoy your black screen
[21:44] <tgm4883> r00t_: i don't mean to argue, but it's currently showing only a black screen, so maybe you aren't entirely happy with it
[21:44] <r00t_> bindi: I'll be admitted to the bar soon
[21:44] <OerHeks> r00t_, you are not happy, lolz.
[21:44] <jesperson> r00t_, Couldn't you check if your version of ubuntu is supported by the driver?
[21:44] <r00t_> so are you saying I have to sue Nvidia in a class action?
[21:45] <bindi> yes
[21:45] <jesperson> r00t_, Literally no one is saying that
[21:45] <r00t_> I was happy until my 550TI broke for no reason
[21:45] <bindi> that is exactly what you are going to have to do
[21:45] <jesperson> except now, bindi
[21:45] <bindi> glad to have helped you
[21:45] <r00t_> bindi: it will only cost me 200 dollars to file the federal suit
[21:45] <debkad> oh old
[21:45] <bindi> nice, that's nothing - ubuntu is free after all HEH
[21:45] <r00t_> unlike you who has to pay attornies fees
[21:45] <jesperson> r00t_, one you are never going to win?
[21:45] <tgm4883> lets all stay on topic please
[21:45] <r00t_> jesperson: it's called practice
[21:46] <r00t_> and why do you think I won't win?
[21:46] <jesperson> r00t_, are you sure? it seems like an idiotic move
[21:46] <jesperson> r00t_, because you have no case
[21:46] <r00t_> this product is not fit for it's intended purpouse
[21:46] <OerHeks> totally going offtopic, come back when you have a supported ubuntu version, r00t_
[21:46] <r00t_> I have a warantee case
[21:46] <r00t_> under the UCC
[21:46] <jesperson> r00t_, good luck with that then
[21:46] <r00t_> jesperson: you a lawyer?
[21:47] <jesperson> r00t_, I'm not - nor do I have to be one to have an opinion
[21:47] <r00t_> obviously not, lay idiots say "you don't have a case"
[21:47] <jesperson> nor would I believe you if you where to state to be one
[21:47] <r00t_> lawyers know there is almost ALWAYS a case
[21:47] <r00t_> jesperson: as I said: I'm not one yet
[21:47] <tgm4883> jesperson: r00t_ stop
[21:47] <r00t_> hairs breath away tho
[21:48] <jesperson> tgm4883, I tried with saying good luck... Do you have any idea how I could proceed with my problem?
[21:48] <debkad> root-: as you use old release from ubuntu , why you don't switch to something new ( 14.04, 16.04/10 LTS ) ?
[21:48] <r00t_> tgm4883: is there anyway to get this working without suing Nvidia and making them add support?
[21:48] <jesperson> tgm4883, It doesn't seem to start right away when I start my computer but it just happens randomly after a while
[21:48] <tgm4883> jesperson: any other usb devices plugged in? Anything in dmesg when it stops responding?
[21:49] <r00t_> debkad: because then my binaries would only run on brand new linuxes
[21:49] <tgm4883> r00t_: update to a supported version and use the built in driver tool
[21:49] <r00t_> tgm4883: no
[21:49] <tgm4883> r00t_: then you're done here
[21:49] <r00t_> tgm4883: want to be sued?
[21:49] <jesperson> tgm4883, I think I might know what the problem might be
[21:49] <r00t_> keep running your mouth
[21:49] <tgm4883> r00t_: for?
[21:49] <jesperson> r00t_, lol - such a troll
[21:49] <debkad> oh
[21:50] <debkad> that was fun
[21:50] <r00t_> tgm4883: we'll find out if your warantee disclaimer has any effect
[21:50] <r00t_> most do not.
[21:50] <tgm4883> r00t_: this is all off topic for this channel
[21:50] <jesperson> tgm4883, I thought I knew what was wrong but it wasn't my xbox controller wireless device...
[21:51] <r00t_> tgm4883: why is it that this would only give a black screen?
[21:51] <r00t_> using nvidias driver
[21:51] <r00t_> technically why, for years and years it always worked
[21:51] <r00t_> what is incompatable now?
[21:51] <tgm4883> r00t_: could be lots of reasons 1) You installed the wrong version of nvidia's driver 2) nvidia's driver requires a minimum version of something that you don't have installed, etc
[21:51] <debkad> r00t_: hard to know without seen the logs
[21:52] <kostkon> r00t_, myriads of reasons on such an old release. we are not willing to make the effort to find out why
[21:52] <OerHeks> please no logs..
[21:52] <debkad> yeah :D
[21:52] <r00t_> debkad: what's the earliest nvidia driver that supports gt730?
[21:53] <debkad> r00t_: no clue on nvidia stuff
[21:54] <tgm4883> r00t_: nvidia suggests 367 for that card
[21:55] <r00t_> tgm4883: I have 367.57 installed
[21:56] <r00t_> tgm4883: is there any place I can talk to an NVidia linux tech?
[21:56] <r00t_> (I assume they have them since they put out drivers)
[21:56] <tgm4883> r00t_: have you tried http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/graphics_card/
[21:56] <kostkon> r00t_, probably the kernel is too old, or X or libc or or...
[21:57] <tgm4883> r00t_: or looked through http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/367.57/README/index.html
[21:57] <digitalvaldosta> Anyone have any ideas how to get my wallpaper to span? I am using GNOME Shell 3.18.5. Currently the only options I have are for setting the wallpaper. :-\
[21:57] <r00t_> why do they have to make such piece of shit cards that die after a few years due to shitty solder?
[21:57] <tgm4883> r00t_: off-topic
[21:57] <r00t_> I could sue them for that
[21:57] <tgm4883> r00t_: off-topic
[21:57] <r00t_> it's been less than 4 years so the statute of limitations hasn't run
[21:57] <tgm4883> r00t_: off-topic
[21:58] <jesperson> tgm4883, you could almost set that up as a bind at this point (irony intended)
[21:58] <tgm4883> jesperson: up arrow works ;)
[21:59] <jesperson> tgm4883, I suppose haha - this mouse-thing is driving me crazy..
[21:59] <digitalvaldosta> **** Looking to set a dual monitor wallpaper. How can I get the option to span? GNOME Shell 3.18.5 doesn't give that option for some reason
[21:59] <r00t_> tgm4883: ty, I'll see what versions I have
[21:59] <jesperson> tgm4883, I just pulled the USB out for the xbox controller wireless thing but it didn't help.. I'm thinking I might need to restart or relog
[22:00] <tgm4883> jesperson: worth a shot
[22:01] <digitalvaldosta> Dual monitor wallpaper in GNOME Shell 3.18.5?
[22:01] <TeKKiE> digitalvaldosta: x-unity tweak tool
[22:01] <TeKKiE> search tweak tool in software center
[22:01] <digitalvaldosta> TeKKiE I'll look. Seems like it shouldn't be this difficult. lol
[22:02] <TeKKiE> Tweak tool works great.
[22:04] <digitalvaldosta> TeKKiE ... it says "this tool is applicable to Ubuntu's default desktop environment only". I am using the Gnome Shell desktop
[22:04] <digitalvaldosta> Thanks anyway
[22:04] <TeKKiE> Funny, I'm using gnome...
[22:05] <digitalvaldosta> hmmm... I guess I could try. What could happen. lol
[22:05] <r00t_> tgm4883: my glibc isn't new enough, everything else is new enough
[22:05] <TeKKiE> http://i.imgur.com/BSQ6FKO.png
[22:06] <tgm4883> r00t_: glibc is kinda important
[22:06] <r00t_> except libvdpau *** which I don't have
[22:06] <jesperson> tgm4883, Now I've restarted and changed my window-manager. Let's hope for difference..
[22:07] <r00t_> wait, glibc is over version 2, so that's fine too
[22:07] <r00t_> ldd --version
[22:07] <r00t_> ldd (GNU libc) 2.7
[22:08] <r00t_> tgm4883: so everything is at or above the required versions
[22:08] <r00t_> except libvdpau which doesn't exist
[22:08] <r00t_> and was never needed before
[22:08] <tgm4883> r00t_: so then not everything then
[22:08] <r00t_> and the installer didn't complain about
[22:08] <r00t_> how do I get libvdpau?
[22:09] <tgm4883> r00t_: IDK, either compile it or upgrade?
[22:09] <maret> Hi everyone why isnt 4.4.0-43 kernel the default one in 16.10 and how I can make it default? (it fixes one extra annoying bug for me)
[22:09] <tgm4883> maret: well for starters, that's an older version that what is in 16.10
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> maret  skip the 'why' part, stick to the 'how' part in this channel
[22:10] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic
[22:10] <nacc> maret: 16.10 ships with 4.8.x
[22:11] <maret> nacc ou welli completelly miss that I just notice higher version at the end, ok anyway I will have make the older one then the default because I have serious bug the new one
[22:12] <tgm4883> maret: what bug
[22:12] <maret> tgm4883: second monitor has glitches pixels turning on and off cosntantly, monitor blacks out for few seconds  then comes on again. No problem with 4.4.0-43
[22:13] <r00t_> tgm4883: ok I compiled and installed libvdpau
[22:13] <r00t_>  less /usr/local/lib/libvdpau
[22:13] <r00t_> libvdpau.la        libvdpau.so.1      libvdpau_trace.la
[22:13] <r00t_> libvdpau.so        libvdpau.so.1.0.0  libvdpau_trace.so
[22:13] <r00t_>  
[22:14] <r00t_> tgm4883: should I rerun the install for the drivers?
[22:14] <tgm4883> r00t_: Honestly, I'd just upgrade. You're far outside the scope of this channel
[22:15] <digitalvaldosta> TeKKiE, I installed Unity Tweak Tool and have it open. I, however, don't see a setting option for the wallpaper/background.
[22:16] <TeKKiE> digitalvaldosta: click desktop
[22:16] <TeKKiE> Background mode: change to spanned
[22:16] <TeKKiE> select your wallpaper
[22:16] <TeKKiE> do same for lock screen if you wish
[22:17] <TeKKiE> Oh shoot, I told you the wrong tweak tool :(
[22:17] <digitalvaldosta> TeKKiE I have "Desktop Icons" but not "Desktop".
[22:17] <digitalvaldosta> oh
[22:18] <TeKKiE> digitalvaldosta: uninstall Unity Tweak Tool, and install GNOME tweak tool.
[22:18] <TeKKiE> heh, sorry
[22:18] <digitalvaldosta> gotcha
[22:18] <TeKKiE> https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Apps/GnomeTweakTool?action=show&redirect=GnomeTweakTool
[22:19] <digitalvaldosta> I saw that one, but figured I'd give this one a try first.l
[22:19] <TeKKiE> Yeah it's still early here. Only on my first cup of coffee
[22:19] <digitalvaldosta> Ah I understand. 6PM EST here
[22:20] <r00t_> tgm4883: black screen anyway
[22:20] <TeKKiE> 7AM Saturday :)
[22:20] <r00t_> tgm4883: what logs do I have to look at
[22:20] <r00t_> according to the thing I have all the required versions now
[22:20] <tgm4883> r00t_: you'll need to chat with nvidia support to see what's up then
[22:20] <mate_> quit
[22:21] <r00t_> tgm4883: where is nvidia support?
[22:21] <tgm4883> r00t_: http://www.nvidia.com/object/support.html
[22:21] <digitalvaldosta> TeKKiE, it worked! ^ _ ^
[22:21] <TeKKiE> Cool beans.
[22:21] <digitalvaldosta> Thanks
[22:21] <TeKKiE> No worries
[22:22] <digitalvaldosta> I see what you mean. This has a ton of options.
[22:22] <digitalvaldosta> Have a great Saturday, TeKKiE
[22:23] <TeKKiE> Have a good night :)
[22:23] <digitalvaldosta> My wife says "cool beans" lol.
[22:23] <TeKKiE> lol
[22:24] <TeKKiE> Mine says "Get off that damned computer!!!"
[22:24] <TeKKiE> haha
[22:24] <digitalvaldosta> Mine too.
[22:30] <r00t_> tgm4883: what logs do I have to look at
[22:30] <r00t_>  
[22:30] <tgm4883> r00t_: IDK, xorg, maybe the installer log for your driver
[22:34] <marcelomauro> Hello, I have a problem with my ubuntu xenial. I noticed some days ago that a abnormal activity happens on my disk. So, there are a continuous loop creation of a file called atril-thumbnailer inside /tmp directory.
[22:35] <marcelomauro> In about 1 hours is suffisant to be created thousands of files like this
[22:37] <Bashing-om> !info atril xanial
[22:37] <Bashing-om> !info atril xenial
[22:38] <marcelomauro> When I start the system it stops in a message: "a start job is running for create volatile files...)
[22:39] <Bashing-om> marcelomauro: A thought ,, is atril in a startup process somewhere ?
[22:41] <marcelomauro> Bashing-om, I just dont know. Everything start to happen two days ago
[22:41] <marcelomauro> and my system gets slowly
[22:42] <marcelomauro> I would to know if I need o reinstall the system
[22:43] <Bashing-om> marcelomauro: Maybe read through the boot log - journalctl -b -0 - see if there is a hint of where atril is getting started ??
[22:44] <Bashing-om> marcelomauro: So far all we are looking at is re-configure atril .
[22:45]  * emil__ 
[22:47] <eu__> Hi all. I have installed Ubuntu Mate 16.10, AppArmor 2.10.95-4ubuntu5.1, QEMU emulator version 2.6.1, libvirtd (libvirt) 2.1.0. I'm create shared directory with virt-manager and successfully mount it inside guest. But i cannot nor write nor `ls' inside it. How to fix it?
[22:49] <marcelomauro> but I'm afraid that everything comes back before that
[22:51] <marcelomauro> Bashing-om, See: A lot of lines like this: Out 28 19:49:49 mach1 kernel: traps: atril-thumbnail[8084] general protection ip:7f2018d6ab2c sp:7ffcf78728c0 error:0 in libcairo.so.2.11400.6[7f2018d33000+10e000]
[22:51] <marcelomauro> Out 28 19:49:49 mach1 kernel: traps: atril-thumbnail[8093] general protection ip:7f529d83fb2c sp:7ffd8ff464e0 error:0 in libcairo.so.2.11400.6[7f529d808000+10e000]
[22:52] <marcelomauro> What do I have to do?
[22:53] <Bashing-om> marcelomauro: I do not know what to advise as I do not know how atril is started .
[22:53] <tomreyn> eu__: maybe it is mounted write protected?
[22:54] <tomreyn> eu__: into the VM, that is
[22:54] <tomreyn> oh wait you can't ls either
[22:54] <kicksled> eu__: sounds like issues with permissions. make sure the user runnning the qemu process has RW access to the files shared
[22:55] <marcelomauro> Bashing-om, Can I stop this process or remove this aplication?
[22:56] <eu__> in /etc/apparmor.d/libvirt/*.files i can see string '"/tmp/share/" r,'
[22:56] <eu__> @kicksled, @tomreyn does it matter?
[22:57] <kicksled> eu__: you could try the steps descrbied here to see if you get it sorted http://askubuntu.com/a/822309
[22:57] <Bashing-om> marcelomauro: I do not think you can remove it until you stop the process . what returns ' ps -e | grep atril ' ; As a place to start hunting .
[22:58] <eu__> @kicksled it's apparmor!
[22:58] <eu__> @kicksled after service was stopped,  i can ls and touch in share
[22:59] <marcelomauro> Bashing-om, It shows this: 13744 ?        00:00:00 atril-thumbnail
[23:00] <eu__> @kicksled thx
[23:15] <Sven_vB> how can my cron job guess a suitable DISPLAY environment variable to show its message on my current X session? I used to snoop on xfce4-panel's environment with ps, but now ps reports just a dash for all my processes.
[23:18] <th0r> Sven_vB, the environment variable DISPLAY ?
[23:18] <Sven_vB> th0r, yes
[23:18] <Sven_vB> oh, I meant to guess a suitable value for it
[23:19] <th0r> Sven_vB, echo $DISPLAY should show the current display
[23:19] <Sven_vB> yeah, from within my X session, that works. cron jobs however don't have that set.
[23:19] <Sven_vB> that's why in the past I spied on panel's environment
[23:20] <tgm4883> Sven_vB: what kind of message?
[23:20] <Sven_vB> tgm4883, gxmessage. or any other graphical program I'd like to start.
[23:21] <Sven_vB> oh actually the cron job also needs to check wmctrl's window list first, to decide whether to show the message
[23:22] <tgm4883> Sven_vB: oh, I was going to suggest you use the built in notification stuff but it sounds like that won't work for you
[23:24] <mark__> Anyone know what the LXDE default Debian theme is as would love to have that theme in Lubuntu
[23:27] <R13ose> How do I upgrade my graphic card drivers?
[23:33] <LVLAaron> Gents, is the latest desktop ubuntu friendly with a radeon r9 200 series?
[23:34] <sarek> https://goo.gl/vBpaQM
[23:34] <Bashing-om> mariogrip: We can try this, if ya willing. activate a terminal ' ctl+alt+t ' kill the atril process ' sudo kill 13744 ; sudo apt purge atril ' . reboot and see now if atril starts back up (??) .
[23:37] <Bashing-om> R13ose: Generally on linux you do not upgrade drivers - this ain't Windows - as the kernel takes care of that . But what graphic's set(s) are you running ' lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' ' ?
[23:37] <marco_> hi
[23:37] <ikonia> sarek: we don't need/want that sort of post, thanks
[23:38] <Tex_Nick> LVLAaron: see if this helps ... http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx
[23:38] <R13ose> Bashing-om: thanks.  http://pastebin.com/kMgKdhxr
[23:39] <sarek> Thank you ambassador ikonia
[23:39] <ikonia> no problem
[23:39] <LVLAaron> yeah, but does it work?
[23:39] <LVLAaron> Installing a driver doesn't = works very well
[23:42] <Bashing-om> R13ose: That shows Intel as the driver, and the i915 driver. Intel provides the driver in the kernel. there should be nothing else you can or should do . Is there a present issue ??
[23:42] <R13ose> Bashing-om: yes there is.
[23:44] <R13ose> In KDE, this is not redrawing, firefox, chromium tabs, and plank dock icons sometimes.  When I have tabs open then move one to the other or even scroll down, I need to go to another window before that loads. Any ideas?
[23:44] <DEFCODE> hello guys
[23:44] <DEFCODE> :)
[23:45] <DEFCODE> so i have one problem with my driver of intel, im have intel hd 4000 and my os not detecting that
[23:45] <Bashing-om> R13ose: Seems a desktop issue .. I do not use or know KDE. perhaps others here can offer an opinion .
[23:46] <R13ose> Bashing-om: I am in here because KDE is not giving me any answers
[23:47] <Bashing-om> R13ose: K; To be here to ask is OK .. but I just have no familiarity with KDE, others here perhaps ?
[23:48] <Bashing-om> DEFCODE: What leads you to think the Intel driver is not loading ?
[23:49] <DEFCODE> @bashing-om Yep, that not loading.
[23:50] <R13ose> Bashing-om: everyone says this is the graphic card and not the desktop
[23:51] <Bashing-om> DEFCODE: Show in a pastebin ' sudo lshw -C display ' please .
[23:52] <DEFCODE> https://i.imgsafe.org/3e49b5ff0a.png
[23:52] <Ben64> picture of text??
[23:52] <Bashing-om> R13ose: K well . One can read what X think's ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' But the system shows the driver loaded .
[23:53] <DEFCODE> http://pastebin.com/iS7p4ujF
[23:53] <DEFCODE> its a text of sudo...
[23:54] <R13ose> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/NPb6pteD
[23:58] <DEFCODE> NITROB: ARE U HERE?