[00:48] <Fenster> hrmm, trying to install kubuntu and I am getting just a blank screen when trying to load the disk on boot
[00:49] <Fenster> I saw it go to a kubuntu login: prompt for a minute or two... I didnt put anything in, and it continued to boot to this black screen
[00:49] <Fenster> am I missing something>
[01:07] <Fenster> when in doubt.. wait longer
[02:20] <DonCullen> @teledyn -- thanks
[02:21] <DonCullen> @Fenster -- Trying to install via ISO, CD, USB, what medium?  How are you getting to the installer?
[02:22] <DarinMiller> DonCullen: Just sec, finding the link...
[02:23] <DarinMiller> DonCullen: Assuming you are using windows?
[02:23] <teledyn> DonCullen: the way it is with Plasma is better than just one desktop folder.  you can have multiple folder containers that you can move around and have different properties for.
[02:23] <DonCullen> @DarinMiller -- I wasn't asking a question, I was answering @Fenster
[02:24] <DarinMiller> DonCullen: sry, just logged in and saw your last 2 response (which I mistook as questions..)
[02:24] <DonCullen> @Teledyn -- yep, but not a fan of using a widget to pop files in.
[02:24] <teledyn> DonCullen: including of course the default desktop one which is at url desktop:
[02:25] <DonCullen> @DarinMiller -- no worries.  Slack has the nice thing of showing previous conversation, as opposed to IRC.
[02:25] <DonCullen> Too bad it's such a memory/CPU hog.
[02:25] <teledyn> DonCullen: right-click and open in Dolphon.  its a regular folder.
[02:26] <DonCullen> Eh, I wanted a place where I could drop it temporarily and pick it up later
[02:26] <DonCullen> But you just gave me an idea.
[02:26] <DonCullen> I wonder if I can place the widget on desktop, maximize the size, and make it transparent.  That'd achieve my purpose.
[02:26] <Fenster> DonCullen, ... I just had to wait onger
[02:26] <Fenster> it finally booted
[02:26] <Fenster> now to try and figure out how to get the wifi working
[02:26] <DonCullen> @Fenster -- excellent
[02:27] <DonCullen> Should be plug and play, wasn't?
[02:27] <Fenster> naw
[02:27] <Fenster> old hp dv5 laptop
[02:27] <DonCullen> Old system?
[02:27] <DonCullen> Ahh..
[02:27] <DonCullen> What kind of wifi hardware does it have?
[02:27] <DonCullen> Integrated, or...?
[02:28] <Fenster> ya pretty sure
[02:28] <Fenster> from what I read it is broadcom?
[02:28] <DonCullen> @Fenster
[02:28] <DonCullen> Do you have internet connection on it? A temporary one?
[02:29] <Fenster> ya.. im hardwired now
[02:29] <DonCullen> Excellent
[02:29] <DonCullen> sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source
[02:29] <DonCullen> sudo apt-get update
[02:29] <DonCullen> sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[02:29] <DonCullen> That'll do it.
[02:29] <DonCullen> From: http://askubuntu.com/questions/631334/need-help-setting-up-wifi-on-hp-laptop-ubuntu-14-04-is-the-os
[02:29] <Fenster> I jjust found that on a website...... Ill try it as soon as the apt-get upgrade finishes that I found on another forum :\
[02:29] <DonCullen> G'luck!
[02:30] <Fenster> when it comes to linux Ill try anything written in a forum ;-P
[02:30] <DonCullen> I know the feeling.
[02:32] <DonCullen> Another potential good source: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1327450
[02:32] <DonCullen> Post #6 seems to have a solution
[02:33] <Fenster> rebooting now
[02:33] <Fenster> fingers crossed
[02:37] <Fenster> boom!
[02:37] <Fenster> niiice
[02:39] <DonCullen> Yay!
[04:49] <sigma1234> hi all, any idea when plasma 5.8 will be available for kubuntu 16.10?
[04:50] <sigma1234> or if there is a ppa i can download it from
 We're working to get it ready, sigma1234
 but the Qt version we have available to use in Ubuntu is not new enough yet
 that is being worked on but the timing is not up to us
[05:03] <sigma1234> ah ok i understand, its more of a qt delay than re-packaging kde.
[05:04] <sigma1234> one last question - how does kde neon differ from kubuntu - i understand its based on the kubuntu core but because of its nature will have plasma 5.8. is there any distinct disadvantage of using it over stock standard kubuntu
[07:20] <teledyn> any word yet on 5.8 plasma backport coming to yakkety?
[07:21] <teledyn> or is there a way to install neon/user into kubuntu from a repo?
[11:11] <mrgreen> hi
[11:15] <mrgreen> i need help to use konversation
[12:18] <viewer|95858> apt-get command not found in my kubuntu help
[12:19] <viewer|95858> is anybody listning
[12:24] <user|30348> :B> <>65B ?><>GL
[12:24] <user|30348> http://pastebin.com/maY62aCz
[13:11] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:24] <fa> BluesKaj: hello
[13:25] <BluesKaj> hi fa
[13:25] <fa> hello BluesKaj
[13:29] <BluesKaj> fa, do you have a kubuntu question?
[13:29] <Irany> Hi Blueskaj
[13:30] <Irany> Blueskaj, are you using Konversation?
[13:30] <BluesKaj> fa, yes
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Irany, yes I am
[13:31] <Irany> Right... Right-click me and click Whois
[13:31] <Irany> My IP is showing to you?
[13:31] <Irany> Is my IP showing?
[13:32] <BluesKaj> Irany, yes it is
[13:32] <Irany> Fuck...
[13:32] <Irany> Do you know how to run applications through Tor?
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Irany, if you want to hide your TP , apply for a cloak at #freenode
[13:34] <BluesKaj> IP that is
[13:34] <Irany> uh...
[13:34] <BluesKaj> !cloak | Irany
[13:34] <Irany> I need to register?
[13:34] <BluesKaj> yes
[13:35] <Irany> I don't wanna register for some reason...
[13:35] <BluesKaj> !register
[13:35] <Fenster> is it possible to install an old version of Picasa on kubuntu
[13:35] <BluesKaj> also Irany, no bad language here please
[13:35] <Irany> Oh, ok.
[13:40] <Fenster> I am installing kubuntu for my father in law and he uses this laptop for 2 things.. photos and emai
[13:41] <Fenster> with google picasa, it uaomtically scans the drive for photos as well as monitors a specific folder
[13:42] <Fenster> kubuntu has qwenview but just looking through the menus I dont see any capability like that
[13:42] <Fenster> is there a solution like picasa for kubuntu that will auto add photos and allow browsing and emailing?
[13:56] <BluesKaj> Fenster, check this out http://lifehacker.com/5877908/the-best-photo-management-app-for-linux
[13:58] <Fenster> ya I saw that too
[13:58] <Irany> How do i 'cd' folders with name like: 'Name Secondname' | I have two Folders 'Programas' and 'Programas Linux', but i can only access 'Programas' via 'cd'.
[13:59] <Fenster> none specifically say they do what I want... there is something called kphotoviewer but it isnt even a choice to instlal from the software manager
[13:59] <Fenster> so I guess I have to compile source code?
[13:59] <Fenster> https://www.kphotoalbum.org/download/source/
[13:59] <Fenster> kphotoalbum
[13:59] <Fenster> even though it is listed on kde.org
[14:00] <BluesKaj> Fenster, digiKam seems fit the needs you described
[14:00] <Fenster> this is for a 70year old man... im verous about something that is so advanced
[14:01] <BluesKaj> Fenster, heh, I'm 73  :-)
[14:01] <BluesKaj> don't sell him short
[14:01] <Fenster> but you are on irc
[14:02] <BluesKaj> one cnan lear
[14:02] <BluesKaj> n
[14:02] <BluesKaj>  at any age
[14:02] <Fenster> so why does digikam not show up in the kde "app store"
[14:03] <BluesKaj> I make more mistakes than i used to , but I manage
[14:03] <BluesKaj> Fenster, look in the package manager
[14:04] <Fenster> BluesKaj, Im a noob... could you point me to it?
[14:04] <BluesKaj> app store, are you on a mobile ?
[14:05] <BluesKaj> kmenu>system>muon-discover
[14:05] <Fenster> no.....trying to wrap my head around this so I can teach him... Kbuntu shows it as "Discover"
[14:05] <Fenster> ya Im there.... and I cant find digikam
[14:06] <Irany> Wine be like : "Please work please work"
[14:07] <Fenster> I guess I gotta apt-get everything?
[14:08] <BluesKaj> Fenster, forget about "discover" , oprn a terminal and do,  sudo apt install muon , it's the original and finds more apps then the newer version
[14:08] <BluesKaj> than
[14:11] <Fenster> still installing from apt=get
[14:11] <Fenster> although I just got a unknown media type in type 'all/all'
[14:11] <BluesKaj> Fenster, don't worry about that
[14:12] <Fenster> it is hanging
[14:12] <SporkWitch> That's a common one, as are the perl locale warnings
[14:12] <SporkWitch> Hanging, on the other hand, is not...
[14:12] <BluesKaj> it'll be fine..which kubuntu are you running?
[14:12] <Fenster> newest... 16ish
[14:13] <Fenster> I was copying a lot of files from an external backup drive to this laptop.... I may have just screwed myself
[14:13] <SporkWitch> 16.04 or 16.10?
[14:13] <Fenster> it looiks like the copy stopped
[14:13] <Fenster> hard drive light is solid :\
[14:13] <BluesKaj> Fenster, is it back to the prompt in the terminal?
[14:13] <Fenster> 16.10
[14:14] <Fenster> no
[14:14] <Fenster>  have no control over itmes in the task bar to pull terminal back up
[14:14] <Fenster> looks like KDE is locked up
[14:14] <Fenster> mouse moves
[14:15] <BluesKaj> have you updated abd upgraded your system since the install ?
[14:15] <Fenster> ya I think so
[14:15] <Fenster> apt-get update and apt-get upgrade?
[14:16] <BluesKaj> yes with sudo
[14:16] <Fenster> yes
[14:16] <Fenster> I think I have to pull the plug here :\
[14:16] <Fenster> it is unresponsive
[14:17] <BluesKaj> can you open ksysguard in the kmenu>system, look for konsole and kill or terminate
[14:18] <Fenster> I cant get into kmenu
[14:18] <BluesKaj> close the terminal ?
[14:19] <Fenster> ok logging in and logging out got me back control
[14:19] <Fenster> but HDD light is still pegged
[14:19] <Fenster> let me reboot
[14:20] <Fenster> that screwed my file transfer :\
[14:20] <Fenster> grrrrrrr
[14:20] <Irany> There is a command to uninstall a package and its dependencies?
[14:20] <Irany> Is there*
[14:20] <BluesKaj> !purge
[14:20] <Irany> Thx
[14:21] <BluesKaj> Irany, or sudo apt purge packagneme
[14:21] <Irany> I'll create an alias for that
[14:21] <BluesKaj> name  even
[14:22] <Fenster> ok
[14:22] <Fenster> installing muon
[14:23] <Irany> Blueskaj, i can't 'cd' my folder 'Name name'(there is another folder with the same first name in the same directory).
[14:24] <cestiera> slt
[14:25] <BluesKaj> Irany, then rename one of them
[14:25] <Irany> -.-
[14:26] <Fenster> ok
[14:26] <Fenster> muon is complete
[14:27] <BluesKaj> ok Fenster open muon in kmenu>system and type digikam in the search box
[14:28] <Fenster> so if muon is so good, why arent they using it by default?
[14:29] <Irany> Nautilus is Ubuntu's default but Nemo >> all V:
[14:29] <Irany> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[14:29] <BluesKaj> well, for some reason the devs think new users will find the muon discover app easier to use , which to me makes no sense
[14:32] <BluesKaj> and it's eye candy gui is more appealing
[14:32] <Fenster> ya but if it doesnt have all the apps it makes no sense
[14:34] <Fenster> hmmm
[14:34] <Fenster> cant find teamviewer on here :\
[14:36] <BluesKaj> Fenster,  https://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux/
[14:44] <Fenster> just open the deb?
[14:45] <Fenster> grrr
[14:46] <Fenster> says it cannot satisfy dependencies
[15:11] <Fenster> jeebus that was hard
[15:11] <Fenster> finally got it
[15:12] <Fenster> now to start the transfer again
[15:14] <Recker> !register
[15:43] <clivejo> BluesKaj: just so you know, Muon was abandoned upstream in favour for Discover
[15:44] <clivejo> the Muon Package Manager is now being maintained by Carlo Vanini - https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=muon.git
[15:44] <BluesKaj> clivejo, ok thanks, too bad it's so clunky and not really very user friendly
[15:45] <BluesKaj> especially for new users
[15:45] <clivejo> well there are some big changes coming for Discover
[15:46] <clivejo> which should make things easier
[15:47] <BluesKaj> anyway I'm sticking with muon ...I'll have to thank Carlo Vanini if I ever meet him on irc
[15:48] <clivejo> he comes to -devel quite a bit
[15:50] <BluesKaj> clivejo, cool , i'll keep an eye out for him , does he use a recognizable nick related to his name or....?
[15:56] <clivejo> BluesKaj: he comes on as slhk
[15:58] <admin-x> ??
[15:58] <admin-x> hello every
[15:59] <BluesKaj> clivejo, thanks again
[15:59] <admin-x> goodnight
[15:59] <chcknrub> when willl kde 5.8 updates for 16.04 be released? it is 4 months now
[15:59] <BluesKaj> admin-x, good evening , maybe ?
[16:00] <admin-x> sorry?wrong words
[16:00] <clivejo> chcknrub: kde 5.8, you mean Plasma 5.8?
[16:01] <chcknrub> yup..
[16:01] <admin-x> it's 12 pm in china
[16:01] <clivejo> how has it been 4 months?
[16:01] <admin-x> it's timet to sleep
[16:01] <chcknrub> it was so long.. no updates
[16:01] <chcknrub> lts kde still buggy
[16:01] <clivejo> https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.8.0.php
[16:01] <chcknrub> 16.04 lts still buggy
[16:02] <clivejo> 4th October it was released
[16:02] <chcknrub> i mean the updates for kubuntu 16.04
[16:02] <chcknrub> still 5.6.6
[16:03] <chcknrub> why it is taking so long
[16:03] <BluesKaj> chcknrub, http://sourcedigit.com/21009-install-kde-plasma-5-8-on-ubuntu-16-04-and-linux-mint/
[16:03] <chcknrub> just compile it, package, then click ship button
[16:03] <clivejo> chcknrub: wish it was that simple!
[16:04] <chcknrub> cool
[16:04] <chcknrub> let me try it
[16:04] <clivejo> BluesKaj: again click baiting
[16:04] <clivejo> Plasma 5.8 is NOT in backports
[16:04] <BluesKaj> haakonn_, add the backpoorts ppa above
[16:04] <BluesKaj> really
[16:04] <BluesKaj> ?
[16:04] <clivejo> yes really!
[16:05] <clivejo> unless some helpful fairies put it there!
[16:05] <BluesKaj> ok gotcha , bloody click biters
[16:05] <BluesKaj> baiters even
[16:06] <chcknrub> nope
[16:06] <chcknrub> it seems no plasma 5.8
[16:06] <chcknrub> :(
[16:09] <MightyKing> !register
[16:10] <addtru> Please provide some recommendations on the following situation: I did install Linux Mint 18 KDE. While configuring a DSL connection, it was connecting and disconnecting continuously. “sudo apt-get update” resulted in ”waiting for headers” for a very long time for each repository. “sudo ping www.google.ro –c 3” resulted in “0% loss”. Another weird thing is that on Firefox, no Internet address is working, except Facebook
[16:10] <addtru> , which is working fine, and Google, which is working very limited (I can have search results, but clicking on any of the results does not work). I had these issues also on installations of Kubuntu 16.04 and Kubuntu 16.10, and on two different computers (fairly old, but still working, one desktop computer with 4 GB of RAM, and a Toshiba satellite with only 1 GB RAM). For the moment I did fall back on the old Linux Mint 17.3 KDE, where e
[16:10] <addtru> verything is working smoothly. Thank you! Best regards, Adrian Romania﻿
[16:13] <MightyKing> !cloak
[16:26] <Sircle> Hi
[16:26] <Sircle> I am few commands away from setting up a multiseatx. Can anyone help? https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8923118
 https://twitter.com/debexpert/status/792403464261406720
 What is that about?
 Installing chrome issues?
[18:14] <Walex> Sircle: multiseat or multimonitor?
[18:16] <Walex> Sircle: for multiseat you really want to start multiple X servers each with its own configuration file.
[18:30] <JonelethIrenicus> hey
[18:31] <JonelethIrenicus> how can i disable kmail services that run in the background?>
[18:34] <clivejo> JonelethIrenicus: you mean akonadi?
[18:38] <Sircle> Walex: multiseatx
[18:39] <Sircle> Walex: by  https://2buntu.com/articles/1514/multiseat-in-ubuntu-1410/
[18:39] <Sircle> Walex: I think I did it with that guide. But its for 2 monitors having 2 cards. I have to find a way to do with 1 cards having many ports. Or multiple cards with multiple ports
[18:41] <JonelethIrenicus> clivejo: i dont know how it works but kmail is closed but i keep getting notifications
[18:44] <clivejo> JonelethIrenicus: that I dont know, Ive never tried to disable it before
 @ahoneybun, Logging in to Google on chromium
[19:25] <Sircle> Is it possible to have multiseatx with a card of 4 ports (but one physical video card)? such as http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_nvs_450_us.html OR I have to have 4 different cards ?
[19:25] <Sircle> Walex: ^
[20:08] <Sircle> Walex:  any other card that has multiple gpus / buses  (in the price range of nvs quadro 450))?
[20:55] <omarketata> good evening
[20:55] <roah> hi
[20:56] <omarketata> since the 16.10 update i have encountered some issues
[20:57] <omarketata> kontact doesen't work anymore
[20:58] <roah> sorry i can't help you, but you may need to elaborate maybe for someone else to help you.
[21:00] <omarketata> at startup there is akonadi self-test window appearing
[21:01] <omarketata> then there are some errors
[21:02] <omarketata> Akonadi Server Self-Test Report
[21:02] <omarketata> [21:02] <omarketata> Test 1:  SUCCESS
[21:02] <omarketata> --------
[21:02] <omarketata> Database driver found.
[21:02] <omarketata> Details: The QtSQL driver 'QMYSQL' is required by your current Akonadi server configuration and was found on your system.
[21:09] <clivejo> omarketata: that might be LP:1633855
[21:10] <clivejo> LP: 1633855
[23:11] <MightyKing> How can i get this taskbar? (the transparent on the top) http://i.imgur.com/ougYqeA.jpg
[23:36] <mparillo> After installing ZZ and auto resizing 16.10 to accommodate the installation, now when I boot 16.10, I get: tpm0: A TPM error (7) occurred attempting to read a pcr value.
[23:36] <mparillo> Any ideas?