[00:00] <wafflejock> gde33, will have to see what version the thing you're trying to run wants though I've had some things that for whatever reason work with the oracle java or openjdk but not vice versa even with same version
[00:00] <wafflejock> gde33, yeah I think 7 is no longer in the repos for xenial/yakkety think you need a PPA if you need it for something
[00:00] <wafflejock> pretty sure they just have 8 and 9 in the repos
[00:00] <gde33> ha-ha
[00:00] <gde33> I should try 8
[00:02] <gde33> it installed then tried to run yacy rightaway?
[00:02] <gde33> Job for yacy.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status yacy.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
[00:06] <wafflejock> gde33, check out what's in the log haven't used Yacy but if it's a java based server makes sense it would be triggered for a restart when a different version of java is installed, you may have to modify the command to launch it to use the particular version of java that works with it (or switch your system one to the one that was working and specify to only use the new one for the other app you're trying to run)
[00:06] <gde33> I'm tring to nautilus into this /var/ but I've given up on trying that just now
[00:07] <gde33> what is the idea not allowing me to see it?
[00:08] <wafflejock> gde33, not sure what you mean by the last questions there?
[00:08] <wafflejock> you can run nautilus from a particular location in the command line or can use Ctrl+L when in a nautilus window to type the path to show
[00:08] <gde33> there is no /var/ in home
[00:08] <wafflejock> gde33, no /var/ is at the root of the filesystem not in home
[00:09] <wafflejock> gde33, home is in /home/yourusernamehere/
[00:09] <wafflejock> gde33, hit Ctrl+L then can type /var and go there
[00:09] <gde33> ah right I keep forgetting this
[00:09] <gde33> not to worry I know MS DOS
[00:09] <gde33> lmao
[00:10] <isene> After upgrade to 16.10, keyboard backlight on my Samsung Series 9 15" laptop stopped working. Any pointers on how to fix this?
[00:12] <Aldryk> Someone can help me with a dual-boot Window installation?
[00:13] <Aldryk> I'm trying to install it alongside an existing ubuntu, and the windows loader consistently fails to load
[00:13] <TRUMP2016> test
[00:13] <vieuxmike> hi
[00:14] <TRUMP2016> test
[00:14] <TRUMP2016> it works!
[00:14] <gde33> the /var/log/yacy/ and the /var/lib/yacy/log are empty
[00:14] <vieuxmike> I actually have an issue with blueman
[00:14] <Bashing-om> Aldryk: No additional partitions to install too ?? show the channel ' sudo parted -l ' in a pastebin site .
[00:14] <TRUMP2016> got tcpdump running on my firewall
[00:14] <TRUMP2016> epic
[00:15] <gde33> and we thought he was a senile geezer
[00:15] <vieuxmike> since tonight I'm totally unable to connect my bluetooth audio devices
[00:15] <Aldryk> Model: ATA HGST HTS721010A9 (scsi)
[00:15] <Aldryk> Disk /dev/sda: 1000GB
[00:15] <Aldryk> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B
[00:15] <Aldryk> Partition Table: gpt
[00:15] <Aldryk> Disk Flags:
[00:15] <Aldryk> Number  Start   End     Size    File system  Name          Flags
[00:15] <Aldryk>  1      1049kB  792GB   792GB   ext4         primary
[00:15] <TRUMP2016> cool. it works!
[00:15] <wafflejock> Aldryk, use a paste site
[00:16] <wafflejock> Aldryk, quiet will get removed in a few minutes
[00:16] <Aldryk> http://pastebin.com/h8nUB0SQ
[00:17] <Aldryk> Sorry for flooding
[00:17] <wafflejock> vieuxmike, you try killing pulseaudio? sometimes since that restarts it things work or you can try loading the module with pactl again sometimes that will rejigger it
[00:17] <Aldryk> Anyhow, I do have a partition, two of them really. One is where I plan to install Windows 10, and one where I try to run the windows installer from
[00:18] <Aldryk> But windows loader fails with error 0xc000000e, bad Boot Configuration Data.
[00:19] <vieuxmike> michael@michael-desktop:~$ sudo -i pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover
[00:19] <vieuxmike> Échec lors de la connexion : Connexion refusée
[00:19] <vieuxmike> Échec de pa_context_connect() : Connexion refusée
[00:22] <Bashing-om> Aldryk: I do not know bunches about GPT, but one does have to have a boot partiton as in 'sdb1' that you do not have on the 1st hard drive .
[00:25] <lucas-arg> any one having problems with nvidia intel video cards? I have tearing while playing videos on ubuntu 16.10
[00:25] <minimec> vieuxmike: selon moi, tu n'as pas besoin de utiliser 'sudo -i' pour charger le module-bluetooth. Connexion refusée me semble logique, parce que il n'y a pas de session pulseaudio pour 'root'...
[00:59] <crayonmodeTRV> Trump is the billionaire dad we never had.
[01:05] <crayonmodeTRV> btw, how come our prez candidates are always so rich?
[01:05] <crayonmodeTRV> lol
[01:05] <fegtb> hi
[01:05] <crayonmodeTRV> can't we get a common man for prez?
[01:06] <fegtb> have problem with ubuntu
[01:06] <Jordan_U> crayonmodeTRV: This channel is for productiveUbuntu support related discussion only. Please take other discussion elsewhere.
[01:07] <OerHeks> fegtb, ask, wait and see
[01:10] <fegtb> can't find ssd when traying to install ubunto on my computer
[01:16] <akik> maybe fegtb was using a lenovo yoga 900s
[01:17] <akik> oh wow lenovo has started releasing a new bios for the yoga
[01:18] <sakht> akik: did i hear that the original bios would only allow windows install?
[01:19] <akik> sakht: it wouldn't even install windows without the special storage drivers
[01:19] <sakht> akik: nice.
[01:19] <sakht> akik: new bios fixes those issues i hope
[01:22] <akik> the lenovo announcement is here: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Yoga-900-13ISK2-BIOS-update-for-setting-RAID-mode-for-missing/td-p/3339206/page/34
[01:22] <assmunch> [ Solved: Yoga 900-13ISK2 - BIOS update for setting RAID mod... - Page 34 - Lenovo Community ] - forums.lenovo.com
[01:30] <nerdydonuts> Hi?
[01:31] <Jordan_U> assmunch: Are you a bot?
[01:32] <barli> Benefits of Eating White Sugar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZRdxz1vCpE
[01:32] <assmunch> [ Benefits of Eating White Sugar - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
[01:34] <OerHeks> yes, he is back, Jordan_U
[01:35] <ootani> good morning
[01:35] <KingQuest> i must user lower version of tcp ip than ubuntu
[01:36] <dixson> Hello, I'm from Venezuela, to install ubuntu 16.04 server installation is Venezuela. I want to change a server main.
[01:37] <dixson> Venezuela server is very slow
[01:37] <ootani> i use  ubuntu 16.10
[01:37] <ootani> xubuntu
[01:38] <ootani> xubuntu is beter than kubuntu
[01:39] <OerHeks> dixson, easy to find http://askubuntu.com/questions/104695/how-do-i-change-mirrors-in-ubuntu-server-from-regional-to-main
[01:39] <gde33> minimec: ok cool thank you, java 8 worked, then it didn't want to accept the password, I reset it, now it is available on localhost
[01:39] <assmunch> [ command line - How do I change mirrors in Ubuntu Server from regional to main? - Ask Ubuntu ] - askubuntu.com
[01:39] <stan_man_can> Anyone have recommendations for IRC clients? I'd like something that can be skinned better than hexchat
[01:39] <minimec> gde33: Cool. ;)
[01:39] <gde33> new problem: yacy is available on localhost and on 127.0.0.1 but not when using my own ip address
[01:39] <OerHeks> assmunch, carlton please remove that bot, thanks
[01:41] <ootani> i use limux mint too
[01:41] <dixson> j
[01:42] <dixson> OerHeks,  want to change for the installation of ubuntu
[01:44] <minimec> gde33: Guess you have to dig the yacy configuration settings or point yout router or clients to the yacy server for searches. I never used yacy.
[01:45] <gde33> minimec: config has a portal check box, simple firewall is off, router port is open
[01:46] <OerHeks> dixson, not sure you get an option for that, you can always change it after initial install.
[01:47] <OerHeks> it uses your timezone/location i guess
[01:47] <okar> ...
[01:48] <etb> hii
[01:48] <okar> hi
[01:48] <ootani> hi
[01:48] <etb> my browser chromium don't work so good
[01:49] <etb> what can i do ?
[01:49] <etb> reinstall haven't an effect
[01:49] <ootani> do you want line?
[01:50] <minimec> gde33: as I said. I never used yacy, but with a little bit of search on the net, I guess you will be successful
[01:50] <gde33> minimec: I think it is an ubuntu thin
[01:50] <gde33> *thing
[01:53] <Bashing-om> etb: How much menory is installed ? and what Desktop Environment are you using ?
[01:54] <minimec> gde33: I guess you can configure the server here... http://localhost:8090/ConfigPortal.html
[01:54] <gde33> minimec: yes, many config options there :)
[01:55] <gde33> oh it crashed lol
[02:00] <sbdchd> hello, I was wondering how to install this package http://packages.ubuntu.com/zesty/aria2
[02:01] <OerHeks> sbdchd, for zesty 17.04 support join #ubuntu+1
[02:01] <dax> the same way you install any other package
[02:01] <OerHeks> maybe it is available for xenial/yakkety too
[02:01] <dax> it is, as the linked page says ;)
[02:01] <gde33> minimec: funny stuff, the crash message allows me to find the topic where the death of the client is discussed, updates are in the repo. Maybe next year they will update the rest.
[02:02] <sbdchd> I am on trusty so how do I install from zesty?
[02:02] <dax> sbdchd: is there some reason you need the zesty version and not the trusty one?
[02:02] <sbdchd> yes, it has a new flag that I would like to use
[02:02] <dax> ah.
[02:03] <sbdchd> I also would rather not build it from source
[02:04] <dax> not seeing a newer version in a PPA or backports. you could try grabbing the package file and installing it directly, but that isn't something #ubuntu would support
[02:04] <dax> (if you scroll to the bottom and click your architecture (amd64 / i386 / etc.), download links for the package file are there)
[02:05] <dax> and if it has dependency issues, you're probably stuck backporting it yourself, which is pretty much the same process as building it from source :\
[02:05] <dax> in terms of annoyingness
[02:06] <sbdchd> okay, thanks!
[02:08] <PriorityMail> erver chicago.il.undernet.org
[02:09] <Guest98610> how do I change workspaces without installing anything? I tried to tab out of my game and task manager shows it's still running but it's not in my workspace.
[02:09] <Guest98610> CTRL+ALT+[left/right] isn't working
[02:09] <minimec> gde33: That's the beauty of OpenSource. Problems are discussed and fixed, and you can follow the evolution. But I guess your basic problem (clients beeing able to access the server) can be handled in the configuration. I am pretty sure...
[02:10] <gde33> that you can write your own things if everything doesn't work :P
[02:10] <Guest98610> I mean I guess I could just restart my computer.
[02:12] <Guest98610> ... huh. ok. found workspaces. there's only 1. how is my game running without being visible? ... well, it did give some kind of error and go back to the login screen but...
[02:12] <gde33> minimec: yacy is after all the foss google killer, entirely distributed, no owners, no oversight, a pilar of german engineering </sarcasm>
[02:12] <Guest98610> oh well... not worth trouble-shooting. just restart. :|
[02:13] <Guest98610> technology... just randomly doing strange things.
[02:13] <FireStriker> hey guys i installed ftl and i dont know how to run it, it was easer on lubuntu i just cliked on the thing and it ran now it just opens a text addeder
[02:13] <FireStriker> editer
[02:14] <somethis> Hello good people ;)
[02:14] <FireStriker> hi
[02:15] <somethis> Ubuntu is taking forever (20+ min) to shutdown ...
[02:15] <somethis> any suggestions on how to track what is happening? ...
[02:15] <FireStriker> um that doesnt sound good
[02:15] <FireStriker> what was the last thing you did?
[02:15] <somethis> maybe "sudo shutdown -h now > logfilename.txt"
[02:16] <somethis> Well, it started  with some update a couple of weeks ago.
[02:17] <somethis> FireStriker: probably too hard to rollback / track what happened.
[02:19] <FireStriker> ok
[02:27] <FireStriker> hey how do i make a scrip to run a scrip or make a scrip run with out needing to open the termale?
[02:29] <FireStriker> i am tryin g to run ftl
[02:29] <sdk> FireStriker: You can create a .desktop
[02:29] <FireStriker> how do i do that?
[02:30] <akik> FireStriker: you can schedule jobs with crontab. they'll be run in the background
[02:31] <FireStriker> ok
[02:31] <familia> hi
[02:31] <bukowski> i tried to do a cron job to start a script on startup, but it didn't work
[02:31] <familia> everyone geeks
[02:31] <bukowski> i've read something about you can use rc.d, but don't know how
[02:31] <FireStriker> i dont want ftl to run on start up lol
[02:31] <akik> FireStriker: what is ftl?
[02:31] <Ben64> FireStriker: where are you getting all these games
[02:31] <FireStriker> Faster Than Light
[02:31] <SchrodingersScat> faster than light?
[02:32] <FireStriker> this one is from the website
[02:32] <akik> what is that?
[02:32] <FireStriker> its not a .run
[02:32] <Ben64> FireStriker: so follow their instructions
[02:32] <FireStriker> it is a excableable
[02:32] <FireStriker> it say open the scrip
[02:32] <FireStriker> and i cant open the scrip without the termal i want to make a desktop icon for it
[02:32] <debkad> .run is just a huge script
[02:32] <Ben64> are you sure it's legit
[02:32] <dax> FTL's Linux version contains a shell script that cd's to the right place and runs an executable, for anyone who feels like helping
[02:32] <dax> i play it too, but i have a sane file manager so double-clicking works
[02:33] <FireStriker> its not .exe it a .gz
[02:33] <debkad> oh compressed
[02:33] <FireStriker> what file manger?
[02:33] <FireStriker> i have the stock one that came with the install of ubuntu
[02:34] <debkad> if it is gz then you can open it with your file manager
[02:34] <debkad> something like file roller
[02:35] <debkad> or from terminal with gunzip
[02:35] <FireStriker> its install
[02:35] <sdk> FireStriker: http://askubuntu.com/questions/67925/how-to-create-a-desktop-shortcut-in-unity
[02:35] <FireStriker> dax what file manger do you use?
[02:35] <SchrodingersScat> tar xzf filename.tar.gz   remember to talk like a german Xtract-Zee-File xzf
[02:35] <bukowski> lol
[02:36] <amin> amin
[02:36] <bukowski> how do you compress things effeciently with tar
[02:37] <akik> LiquidFire: -z uses gzip and -j uses bzip2. i think there's an option for xz too
[02:38] <LiquidFire> oh
[02:38] <akik> LiquidFire: it's probably -J for xz
[02:42] <narupo> where is ubuntu mascot character?
[02:42] <debkad> o_o
[02:42] <narupo> I need healing from mascot character. hurry.
[02:42] <debkad> what is mascot
[02:43] <FireStriker> Tux
[02:43] <narupo> mascot is mascot. google translate is ...
[02:43] <narupo> mascot
[02:43] <narupo> Tux? penguin?
[02:43] <debkad> i guess the logo
[02:43] <narupo> Oh. penguin has not healing.
[02:44] <narupo> logo? trade mark is
[02:44] <narupo> here: http://picua.org/img/2016-05/25/qeg31yjlea9iv2mukixi95mzp.jpg
[02:45] <narupo> But, it has not healing for my hart and body.
[02:45] <narupo> I need healing. ok?
[02:45] <narupo> good bye all. I go to the anime land. thank you.
[02:45] <FireStriker> Tux is the mascot for Linux but hes not the mascort for ubuntu, does ubuntu have one?
[02:46] <debkad> narupo: there is one in my conky :) http://i.imgur.com/hfZDo8W.png
[02:46] <narupo> debkad: nice
[02:46] <debkad> itis 'OpenLogos' font
[02:47] <narupo> FireStriker: ubuntu has not mascot? oh god.
[02:47] <narupo> debkad: good fond. I like 'Ricty' font.
[02:47] <narupo> s/fond/font/
[02:47] <debkad> narupo: if you install that font from http://www.dafont.com/openlogos.font you will get that nice logo and otherss :)
[02:48] <narupo> debkad: oh, many many logs. I choose one
[02:49] <narupo> 'U' log has healing for there peoples.
[02:49] <narupo> s/log/logo/
[02:49] <debkad> narupo: all those icons you seen from that link are openlogos font
[02:49] <debkad> yeah
[02:50] <narupo> openlogos? that is freeware?
[02:50] <debkad> narupo: yes it is free
[02:50] <narupo> I can draw it?
[02:50] <debkad> narupo: you download the font and install
[02:51] <narupo> debkad: download and install ok
[02:51] <narupo> debkad: I can draw logo? and regist to openfont?
[02:51] <FireStriker> Guys how do i run a scrip without the termal?
[02:51] <debkad> narupo: no idea about that :o
[02:52] <narupo> debkad: hm
[02:52] <narupo> debkad: If I can draw logo then I need healing logo.
[02:52] <narupo> debkad: I should try it. maybe.
[02:53] <akik> FireStriker: in your desktop file, set Terminal=false
[02:53] <narupo> s/should/should be/
[02:54] <narupo> debkad: Yaa. :D That is good idea. thanks
[02:54] <debkad> narupo: there is also fontawesome, StyleBats .. ( those what i use in my conky )
[02:54] <debkad> No problem :)
[02:54] <narupo> good bye all
[02:54] <debkad> bye
[02:55] <pepino292929> hi, i'm on lubuntu and I don't think my computer is using both cores (or all 4 threads)- can anyone assist?
[02:56] <akik> pepino292929: open top, then press 1. it'll show you the separate cores
[02:57] <pepino292929> akik: thanks, noob question, how to open top?
[02:57] <akik> pepino292929: open a terminal, run top
[02:57] <pepino292929> kk
[02:58] <pepino292929> ahhh very interesting akik
[02:59] <pepino292929> so listen to this
[02:59] <pepino292929> i have this custom prime benchmarker type thing i wrote
[02:59] <pepino292929> and it's only using 2 threads
[02:59] <aaana1> siang
[03:00] <pepino292929> worse yet, the load will only be 100% on one thread, the rest are 5-10% usage
[03:00] <aaana1> sorry
[03:01] <FireStriker> hey dax you there?
[03:02] <akik> pepino292929: you can test more with the stress application
[03:02] <debkad> pepino292929: i think that normal
[03:03] <pepino292929> akik: i'll try the benchmarking tools on the OS
[03:03] <pepino292929> i dont care about this program, but i think the CPU is underutilized when running team fortress 2
[03:03] <akik> pepino292929: for example stress --cpu 4
[03:03] <pepino292929> etc etc, open gl
[03:04] <FireStriker> anyone here play Faster Than Light? i cant seem to get the thing i need to run to run
[03:04] <akik> pepino292929: stress is a normal load generating application
[03:04] <lordcirth> FireStriker, I do, what's the problem?
[03:04] <FireStriker> it opens a text editer
[03:05] <lordcirth> FireStriker, when you do what?
[03:05] <FireStriker> in lubunt i could run it without the termale
[03:05] <FireStriker> try to run the scrip in the root like your ment to
[03:05] <pepino292929> akik: blowfish and crypto hash use all 4 threads, i just tested
[03:05] <FireStriker> i am not useing steam btw
[03:05] <lordcirth> FireStriker, is it a bash script?  I think you can right click and run it
[03:05] <pepino292929> is there a way i can specify multithreading in my c program?
[03:06] <FireStriker> nope
[03:06] <lordcirth> pepino292929, um, you have to do that yourself, in the code.
[03:06] <FireStriker> i tryed that
[03:06] <pepino292929> lordcirth: i will go digging on how to :)
[03:06] <lordcirth> FireStriker, did you mark the script as executable?
[03:06] <lordcirth> pepino292929, it's not easy
[03:06] <FireStriker> it worked in Lubuntu but in ubuntu it just gives me the text editer
[03:06] <FireStriker> yep
[03:06] <BurtReynolds> Has anyone had a problem with SD cards not showing up the full amount of memory on Linux?
[03:07] <debkad> FireStriker: you have a problem in mime type
[03:07] <BurtReynolds> I'm trying to put raspbian on my sd card but my 32 is showing up as a boot and a 3.9 gig even though it's 32 gig
[03:07] <pepino292929> lordcirth: but at least i can try! haha. i'm going to test if openGL is throttling too
[03:07] <debkad> BurtReynolds: may be it is your card reader issue/limit
[03:08] <th0r> BurtReynolds, that sounds like raspbian
[03:08] <FireStriker> mime type?
[03:08] <th0r> BurtReynolds, first thing to do after installing raspbian is run raspi-config. ask in #raspbian
[03:10] <debkad> FireStriker: yes, for example *.avi are videos so the opened by default with your video player, if the mime type ( changed or something ) then when you try to open that video, your text editor or any other apps open rather than your video player
[03:10] <debkad> that is a mime type
[03:10] <FireStriker> how do i fix it?
[03:11] <debkad> FireStriker: right click ==> properties and change
[03:11] <debkad> if you know what kind of type it is
[03:13] <FireStriker> what do i right clik on?
[03:13] <FireStriker> i have right cliked on the scrip thing and do see a change thing
[03:14] <debkad> FireStriker: good, if you choosen the right app then you can just double click it now
[03:14] <FireStriker> dont
[03:14] <FireStriker> typo
[03:15] <FireStriker> lordcirth: whats the right app?
[03:15] <FireStriker> or do you use steam
[03:27] <BurtReynolds> thanks for the replies, was busy digging :)
[03:29] <BurtReynolds> Now I can't even get the SD Card to show up in df -h after doing a format via fdisk
[03:30] <BurtReynolds> But! it shows up the full 32 gig when I put it into my chromebook so I'm making progress
[03:30] <debkad> good
[03:32] <mikeindymikealph> hello guys, im new here..also newbies on linux
[03:33] <debkad> welcome
[03:35] <mikeindymikealph> thanks
[03:35] <Bashing-om> !manual | mikeindymikealph
[03:37] <mikeindymikealph> #quit
[03:48] <FireStriker> hyw guys i am making a .desktop file atm, what Categories would a game be under?
[03:51] <stan_man_can> any recommendations for irc clients? not a huge fan of hexchat
[03:51] <stan_man_can> looking for something that can be skinned nicely
[03:51] <meth> weechat
[03:51] <stan_man_can> prefer something with a gui
[03:51] <meth> Irssi
[03:52] <stan_man_can> a gui.
[03:54] <debkad> stan_man_can: xchat
[03:58] <phenom> stan_man_can, mirc under wine if hexchat doesn't work for you.
[03:59] <phenom> I say we start a gofundme for Khaled Mardam-Bey to bring mirc to linux.
[04:00] <stan_man_can> osx has a few nice ones
[04:00] <stan_man_can> textual, colloquay
[04:02] <stan_man_can> the only wine i like comes in a bottle
[04:06] <handel> thats entertainment ! ;)  ubuntu :D
[04:07] <handel> how are the most recent canonical patches for kernel updating?
[04:07] <stan_man_can> Where do I configure the window manager shortcuts?
[04:08] <stan_man_can> Previously I set it up so if I do say ctrl+alt+numpad it resizes to different portions
[04:08] <stan_man_can> top left, top right, top half, bottom half, ect.
[04:08] <stan_man_can> but i can't find where I did that now..!
[04:10] <handel> i think there's a bug in hexchat.  no server can get on freenode but xchat works on gnusense so does ircii in Houston, TX where the server company is located despite it's international accesibilty
[04:14] <FireStriker> !pastbin
[04:15] <FireStriker> !pastebin
[04:16] <stan_man_can> ah, had to re-install compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:17] <FireStriker> hey i am working on a .desktop atm, something is broken is this all good?
[04:17] <FireStriker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23400465/
[04:21] <debkad> FireStriker: what happen when you double click that desktop file?
[04:22] <FireStriker> i fixed it
[04:22] <FireStriker> dont know how but i fixed it
[04:22] <debkad> good
[04:55] <ashispavan> hello
[04:55] <FireStriker> hi'
[04:55] <ashispavan> A quick question:
[04:55] <FireStriker> i am making a script what do i save it as so it will run?
[04:56] <ashispavan> Why was the option to move min,max and close button to the right removed?
[04:56] <ashispavan> @FireStriker No :)
[04:57] <ashispavan> Anyone?
[05:04] <FireStriker> idk i am new just wait
[05:04] <FireStriker> i am making a script what do i save it as so it will run?
[05:05] <FireStriker> you are noit ment to do what i just did but a lot of people joined a nd left from the loast time i said that
[05:11] <sector_0> hey
[05:11] <sector_0> anyone know how to install opencl so that the headers are in the /usr/include directory?
[05:12] <sector_0> I currently have my header located there, but I'm trying to set it up again on another system and can't remember what exactly I did
[05:13] <sector_0> the files are in the /opt/AMDAPPSDK-3.0/include directory
[05:24] <FireStriker> !pastebin
[05:25] <FireStriker> anyone here know much about .desktops?
[05:35] <FireStriker> anyone here know much about .desktops?
[05:44] <FireStriker> hi
[05:47] <lgstate> I have 1 computer with 2 hdmi outputs. They are both connected to monitors. Suddenly, my computer freeszes. When I resart, only HDMI1 is connected, and HDMI2 is a blanck screen (does not even show up under xrandr). How od I begin to debug this?
[05:51] <catbeard> hey so my mouse cursor is randomly moving up and down the screen
[05:51] <catbeard> 16.04
[05:54] <Elronnd> for travis-ci, I have to upgrade libstdc++6 for a dependency.  However, this also upgrades a bunch of other stuff, including sudo.  When sudo is upgraded, apt notes that sudoers is different than the default version, and asks me what it should do
[05:55] <Elronnd> since  it's travis, there's no interaction, so what can I do?
[05:56] <FireStriker> anyone here know much about .desktops?
[06:06] <FireStriker> i need help
[06:06] <Elronnd> with what?
[06:07] <FireStriker> do you know much about .desktop files Elronnd?
[06:07] <FireStriker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23400697/
[06:07] <FireStriker> thats my .desktop
[06:08] <FireStriker> and i dont know why it doesnt work
[06:09] <debkad> you said it was fixed
[06:09] <Elronnd> sorry, I stopped keeping track of fancy DEs a while ago
[06:09] <FireStriker> it was it broke
[06:09] <Elronnd> the ;s on the last line look suspicious
[06:09] <Elronnd> what happens if you remove them?
[06:10] <FireStriker> it opens than doesnt run anything than closes
[06:10] <Elronnd> FireStriker: what's your last working copy?
[06:10] <FireStriker> what :s?
[06:10] <FireStriker> thats it
[06:10] <FireStriker> it opens than doesnt open the .sh than closes
[06:11] <debkad> FireStriker: you can just copy one of the desktop files from /usr/share/applications/ and modify it in the way you want
[06:11] <user16892354> maybe bash it?
[06:11] <FireStriker> ok
[06:12] <user16892354> i.e. Exec=bash blah.sh
[06:12] <FireStriker> tryed bash now i just want to bash the computer it driveing me insace it souldnt be this hard lol
[06:12] <debkad> FireStriker: Exec=bash '/home/chris/Games/FTL/Run_FTL.sh'
[06:12] <FireStriker> so bash progam
[06:12] <FireStriker> i wil try that
[06:14] <FireStriker> still doesnt work
[06:14] <debkad> FireStriker: from terminal your script work?
[06:14] <FireStriker> yep
[06:15] <th0r> FireStriker, xterm -e 'scriptname'?
[06:16] <FireStriker> nope
[06:16] <debkad> FireStriker: I think your desktop work you just want to see the output?
[06:17] <FireStriker> i want to see the output but its also not runing the script
[06:17] <debkad> FireStriker: ok try this: Exec=gnome-terminal -e "bash /home/chris/Games/FTL/Run_FTL.sh"
[06:18] <debkad> replace gnome-terminal if you don't use Unity
[06:18] <FireStriker> it poped up 2 terminals this time but closed both and didnt run the script
[06:20] <debkad> FireStriker: add -c and change Terminal=true to Terminal=false .. Exec=gnome-terminal -e "bash -c /home/chris/Games/FTL/Run_FTL.sh"
[06:20] <FireStriker> with " right
[06:21] <debkad> as i wrote it
[06:21] <FireStriker> no terminal poped up
[06:22] <FireStriker> not even for a second
[06:22] <FireStriker> and scrip didnt run
[06:22] <debkad> ok last time :D Exec=bash -c '/home/chris/Games/FTL/Run_FTL.sh'
[06:23] <debkad> and Terminal=true
[06:25] <FireStriker> still not working
[06:25] <debkad> FireStriker: is there something inside that script like 'exit' at the end of the script?
[06:26] <FireStriker> nope
[06:26] <debkad> shrug
[06:26] <FireStriker> ik
[06:28] <debkad> FireStriker: try this Exec=bash -c '/home/chris/Games/FTL/Run_FTL.sh;$SHELL'
[06:29] <ShayBox> instructions unclear, deleted / Kek
[06:29] <debkad> :))
[06:30] <ShayBox> i hate that my wallpaper/panel locations get reset every reboot.... its something with my nvidia driver but i cant use anything other than 340
[06:30] <user16892354> tried 361?
[06:32] <ShayBox> i have a fake GT 630 from ebay, and even on windows i HAVE to use 340, i've tried all of the ones i could fine in synaptic
[06:32] <ShayBox> i'v egot 335 working, but...
[06:33] <FireStriker> fixed it
[06:33] <FireStriker> thanks'
[06:34] <FireStriker> that last line you gave me both broke and in the end fixed it
[06:35] <FireStriker> needed to edit the Run_FTL.sh to define the location of the data folder
[06:37] <FireStriker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23400831/ i needed to to edit the ./data to /home/chris/Games/FTL/data
[06:38] <FireStriker> thanks for the help debkad
[06:38] <debkad> haha no problem :)
[06:40] <FireStriker> it was drveing me baddy
[06:40] <ShayBox> what were you having?
[06:40] <ShayBox> i joined a bit late to get what it was
[06:48] <TRUMP2016> any way with gnome disk utility to create a FAT32 partition encrypted with LUKS? seems i can only use LUKS with Ext4 which is less than ideal for a flash drive.
[06:52] <debkad> TRUMP2016: http://askubuntu.com/questions/233217/encrypting-fat32-with-luks
[06:55] <debkad> TRUMP2016: this is may be better: http://kasunc.blogspot.com/2013/12/usb-flash-drive-encryption-with-luks.html
[07:00] <lucas-arg> cant find steam in repos using ubuntu 16.10 anyone else having this problem??
[07:00] <debkad> good night all
[07:03] <baizon> lucas-arg: well its there
[07:03] <baizon> lucas-arg: http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/steam
[07:05] <lucas-arg> i had to download it from steam web
[07:13] <pacovc> lucas-arg you are probably don't have a particular repo installed
[07:13] <pacovc> is steam like an open source
[07:13] <pacovc> you may need to a certain repo to your sources.list
[07:15] <RadenBlazed> hello
[07:15] <RadenBlazed> anyone here?
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> RadenBlazed: 1600 users are
[07:16] <RadenBlazed> lol
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> RadenBlazed: you want to ask an ubuntu questio perhaps?
[07:18] <Wulf> RadenBlazed: I'm not here. Don't bother asking.
[07:19] <RadenBlazed> so guys im having a problem. I upgraded from 14 to 16 and apparently 16 uses php7. Im hosting a wordpress website and it does not work too good with 7 so i installed php5. now the problem is that i cant seem to install extra packages to go with php5
[07:19] <Wulf> RadenBlazed: upgrade your wordpress
[07:21] <RadenBlazed> my wordpress is v4.6.1 and up to date. I dont remeber exacly why it wasent working with php7, all i know is that i had to find a way to install php5 next to php7
[07:22] <RadenBlazed> and now i just made everything a lot more complicated for my self. im no ubuntu expert, been learning as i go
[07:23] <user1298431> huh...
[07:23] <Wulf> RadenBlazed: can you find out why it's not working with php7?
[07:23] <Wulf> RadenBlazed: might be easier to fix
[07:23] <user1298431> my screen turns off after a few sec of idling
[07:23] <user1298431> i have set timeout to 5min
[07:24] <Thete> Is 30 minutes old considered stable yet?
[07:24] <user1298431> and i get "vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device" in syslog
[07:27] <RadenBlazed> @wulf ok i belive my problem was that apache was not set up for php7. i will try to get that working thanks
[07:30] <chris2bass> I think I am missing some drivers, How can I confirm this? Display resolution is 1152x864, I want something larger. 1920x1080 would be nice
[07:31] <Wulf> chris2bass: can you provide output of lspci -vvvnn and dmidecode?
[07:32] <Wulf> user1298431: you too?
[07:33] <user1298431> too?
[07:36] <chris2bass> Where is it saving it to? Should this information be on terminal window? http://i.imgur.com/jeOfNpJ.png
[07:37] <baizon> chris2bass: sudo dmidecode
[07:38] <user1298431> the screen off problem started happening today. the only major change i did today was disabling keyring and i dont think thats the problem
[07:40] <chris2bass> http://i.imgur.com/jeOfNpJ.png dmidecode data
[07:41] <chris2bass> pastebin.com/raw/2wpkniwk
[07:43] <Wulf> chris2bass: oh, not even real hardware
[07:45] <abcv> Hi, how do I see details about my machine like graphic card, chip set and RAM on my Ubuntu?
[07:45] <Wulf> abcv: lspci -vvvnn and dmidecode
[07:48] <chris2bass> I been wanting to learn about Ubuntu. Instead of having multiple towers, i want to retire a few of them. I don't want all of those task to be running on my actual computer. I wanted them a bit isolated, thus VMs. Ubuntu is a free OS + i want to learn more.
[08:01] <FireStriker> Hey guys I might have a problem
[08:02] <reisio> you definitely have
[08:02] <FireStriker> Ubuntu won't boot
[08:02] <reisio> and let me guess, you want it to?
[08:02] <reisio> :p
[08:02] <FireStriker> I am waiting for the error to pop up
[08:02] <reisio> ok
[08:03] <FireStriker> It's complaining about something
[08:03] <reisio> that's good
[08:03] <reisio> errors without errors are worse
[08:03] <FireStriker> Yea
[08:03] <reisio> probbos without errors*
[08:04] <FireStriker> If it would error again it would be nice.
[08:04] <reisio> how long do you think it'll be?
[08:05] <FireStriker> Idk it was about a min or 2 before it errored and this is the second attempt of booting into ubuntu
[08:06] <reisio> how tedious
[08:06] <reisio> gonna go do a couple chores & come back
[08:07] <FireStriker> k might do the same or pull out the ps2
[08:07] <reisio> :p
[08:12] <FireStriker> Still waiting
[08:12] <reisio> :p
[08:12] <reisio> haven't started my chores yet
[08:13] <reisio> IRC addiction ftw(l)
[08:14] <FireStriker> Yea ik
[08:17] <FireStriker> Hey going to pull out the ps2, what should I play, jak and dexter, Spider-Man 2 or Kingdom Hearts 2? Hit and run would be there but I don't know we're it went.
[08:18] <shinto> hello
[08:18] <reisio> mmm, think I'd go with kingdom hearts, but I don't know if it'd be nice to play for a few minutes only
[08:18] <reisio> 'lo shinto
[08:18] <FireStriker> Any back on topic I am still waiting
[08:19] <FireStriker> Well could be longer and I would be mucking around in a 100% save (or there about)
[08:24] <TRUMP2016> any way with gnome disk utility to create a FAT32 partition encrypted with LUKS? seems i can only use LUKS with Ext4 which is less than ideal for a flash drive.
[08:24] <Skelle> Greetings! 2 days ago I decides to install lubuntu on my laptop, since it seems to be the only ubuntu that work decent enough to use the web wtih without me getting old before anything happens.. Anyway, when I was heading for the wifi when everything was set
[08:25] <Skelle> I found out that wifi wont work at all
[08:25] <Skelle> So I took to the great google and search for a fix on my problem
[08:25] <ikonia> why don't you just ask the problem without trying to tell a story from lord of the rings
[08:25] <Skelle> Found it, but now everytime I turn the computer on, I have to run the "fix" to get me some wifi, and thats annoying
[08:25] <ikonia> "hi, I'm using lubuntu 16.04 with this wifi card, it doesn't work, plesase help"
[08:26] <ikonia> for example
[08:26] <Skelle> Well, I try that next timne =)
[08:26] <ikonia> what is your actual question ?
[08:26] <TRUMP2016> any way with gnome disk utility to create a FAT32 partition encrypted with LUKS? seems i can only use LUKS with Ext4 which is less than ideal for a flash drive.
[08:29] <reisio> TRUMP2016: what makes you think it's less than ideal?
[08:33] <FireStriker> Still waiting reiso how's the cords go?
[08:34] <lassegs[m]> skellie: What does wifi wont work mean? What is the fix you need to run to get wifi?
[08:34] <ducasse> TRUMP2016: afaik, luks just gives you a block device, with no restrictions on type of fs.
[08:35] <FireStriker> Hang it might be working now
[08:36] <FireStriker> Wtf it's working all I needed to do was fouce shutdown
[08:37] <TRUMP2016> ducasse: right, but it can't be done from within gnome disk utility
[08:38] <TRUMP2016> for some reason
[08:38] <TRUMP2016> i understand how the underlying tech works
[08:38] <reisio> I imagine a great many things can't be done from GNOME's disk utility
[08:39] <reisio> and I'm excluding in that imagining all the things GNOME devs would certainly not implement _on purpose_ because they don't like apps that do things
[08:39] <reisio> :p
[08:39] <ducasse> :)
[08:44] <Skelle> My problem is that I have to  install the drives for the wireless card everytime I need to use the wifi
[08:48] <reisio> Skelle: install how?
[08:54] <Skelle> Opened the file I downloaded and pressed "Run.sh" and the magic was done
[08:54] <Skelle> Dunno how to explain it further
[08:54] <Skelle> Tbh
[08:56] <reisio> aha, well that's your problem
[08:56] <reisio> that is not how one installs drivers, or really anything on GNU/Linux
[08:56] <reisio> where'd you download this file?
[08:59] <Skelle> So how should one go about installing drives then on GNU/Linux?
[09:00] <Skelle> The file comes from a site called onthim~ so some dudes own site probably
[09:00] <Skelle> the only place I could find the working drives
[09:01] <reisio> Skelle: drivers for what?
[09:02] <Skelle> the wireless card sorry
[09:03] <Skelle> Its a Ralink RT3290 if thats any help
[09:14] <ducasse> Skelle: they're probably just not being loaded automatically, what kind of files came in this archive?
[09:15] <Ignacy> anything.sh is usually a bash script, couple commands you can type in terminal yourself, but those commands need some other binaries, archive with the real drivers
[09:16] <reisio> probably some makeself binary nonsense
[09:16] <Skelle> There is 9 .sh scripts, then there is a firmware folder and a scr.tar.gz and then tempm and a readme and license.txt
[09:16] <Skelle> and a file called activate-net-rt
[09:16] <Ignacy> the ubuntu savoir-vivre asks people to make all that into a so called .deb package
[09:17] <Skelle> the bash scripts is called blacklist, compile,deps,extract, install,load,run,setup uninstall
[09:17] <Ignacy> which makes installation, installation-directory and system shortcuts automatic
[09:17] <ducasse> Skelle: have you tried the 'install' script?
[09:18] <Ignacy> https://askubuntu.com/questions/455030/ralink-rt3290-wifi-driver-is-not-working-in-ubuntu-14-04#455512
[09:19] <Ignacy> I am using duckduckgo search enginge, so the stackoverflow is shown as first in the linux related searches, try that
[09:19] <Skelle> I have, and it fixes the problem untill I restart my computer, Then I have to run the install.sh all over again.
[09:20] <ducasse> Skelle: anything on permanently installing them in the readme?
[09:21] <Skelle> nope, the readme just reads "Installation--- simply run, Run.sh file--- then its explains how to uninstall
[09:27] <ducasse> Skelle: are you sure you didn't reboot with a different kernel version?
[09:28] <Skelle> Im not. how do I know? :-[
[09:29] <ducasse> Skelle: you don't, as you don't know which kernel version you ran on your previous boot. the drivers will most likely just be installed for one kernel version.
[09:30] <ducasse> Skelle: so you might have installed them for the kernel you are running now, you can try rebooting into the same version.
[09:55] <FireStriker> hey
[09:56] <Ignacy> hello
[09:57] <Ignacy> is Skelle still here?
[09:57] <Skelle> yes im still here Ignacy
[09:58] <Ignacy> I've opened a priv with you, let's move there
[09:58] <ducasse> !pm | Ignacy Skelle
[09:58] <Conna> hmm
[10:01] <Ignacy> hey, I just didn't want to flood the channel, I tend to talk a lot
[10:01] <FireStriker> i want to set a duel audio setup one line for comtication the other for everything else
[10:01] <kernello> hello everyone, for the second time recently the message popped up that 'you need to restart firefox to complete updates' (may not be the exact expression) even though I didn't run any update anywhere. what could this be?
[10:01] <Ignacy> auto update
[10:02] <kernello> is there such a thing?
[10:02] <FireStriker> also how do i change camer
[10:02] <Ignacy> that's just my guess
[10:02] <kernello> as far as i am concerned, ubuntu is based on linux and on linux user is in charge of everything
[10:02] <kernello> almost
[10:03] <ducasse> kernello: is the package unattended-uprades installed?
[10:03] <kernello> at least noone runs nothing by himself
[10:03] <kernello> ducasse, I don't remember.
[10:03] <kernello> can I check it?
[10:03] <kernello> or how can I check it?
[10:04] <ducasse> kernello: then check. 'apt policy unattended-uprades'
[10:04] <lapidus> Hi. I want dual-boot with encrypted LVM. I used a combination of the testing environment and ubuntu installer to set up a /boot partition an encrypted partition with LVM inside. OS installed, but after reboot it times out waiting for root device and drops into busybox on initramfs. It seems ubuntu doesn't know it's supposed to look for / inside the crypted partition. Can I fix this?
[10:04] <kernello> ducasse, sure, going about it
[10:04] <lapidus> * /boot partition AND an encrypted partition
[10:05] <kernello> ducasse, I get this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23401327/
[10:06] <ducasse> kernello: so it's installed. that will install security updates automatically.
[10:07] <kernello> ducasse, but it came up only with firefox so far. does it happen to all programs?
[10:07] <ducasse> kernello: all security updates.
[10:08] <kernello> ducasse, so I don' get any more update/upgrade alerts from software sources?
[10:08] <kernello> don't*
[10:08] <ducasse> kernello: iirc, you should still be prompted to install non-security updates.
[10:08] <ducasse> kernello: as in bugfixes.
[10:09] <Helperoni> Hello guys. On my latop brightness control is not working. How to fix? Im using ubuntu 16.04
[10:09] <kernello> ducasse, ah, so these auto-updates are only for security ones
[10:09] <JohnMS> I'm working with a games industry company and we're looking into supporting our applications on GNU/Linux. What is the current level of support for the LSB in Ubuntu?
[10:10] <ducasse> JohnMS: minimal, as in many other distros.
[10:11] <FireStriker> is there a way to set up a duel audio i have a usb headset that can connect to a audio jack to set up duel audo with comuintcation and the other for eveything else
[10:12] <ducasse> kernello: as far as i remember, the default is to only auto-update security fixes, but i could be misremembering.
[10:12] <kernello> ducasse, I will search and try to get its details now
[10:13] <martysia> hello - it's the 1st time I'm gonna install ubuntu (16.04.1) on a computer with preinstalled windows and GPT
[10:13] <martysia> how do I do the partitioning it this case?
[10:14] <martysia> this is my current partition table: https://zapodaj.net/0e75a5ec3b5b9.png.html
[10:14] <Helperoni> How to fix brightness control?
[10:15] <ducasse> martysia: free up space from windows, the ubuntu installer will take it from there.
[10:16] <martysia> ducasse: I want to install more than one Linux
[10:16] <martysia> I need to do the partitioning myself
[10:16] <martysia> using "something else"
[10:16] <FireStriker> can you do that?
[10:17] <ducasse> martysia: then just choose 'something else, and set it up the way you want it.
[10:17] <FireStriker> is there a way to set up dual audio?
[10:17] <Helperoni> Nobody knows about Brightness controling problem?
[10:17] <Ignacy> you mean like two lanes?
[10:17] <JohnMS> ducasse: How minimal is minimal? :)
[10:17] <Ignacy> front audio and back?
[10:17] <martysia> ducasse: do I still apply the / swap and /home?
[10:17] <kernello> ducasse, in 'software & updates' I seem to have selected 'download and install automatically' for security updates. so that explains it :)
[10:18] <kernello> likely to be default option, as you said. as I dont remember having selected it
[10:18] <martysia> ducasse: and since its a gpt I cannot create any extended partition so how do I do the partitions for linux if not logical type?
[10:18] <ducasse> JohnMS: like debian we only have the base lsb components now. exactly what they include i don't know.
[10:18] <crised> Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
[10:19] <JohnMS> ducasse: Okay, thanks.
[10:19] <crised> How do I enable A2DP port?
[10:19] <ducasse> martysia: gpt can have 128 partitions.
[10:19] <crised> Bluetooth dongle is in HCI Mode, I want to use A2DP mode, how do I do this?
[10:19] <crised> Can hcitool be used to switch to A2DP mode, and connect to bluetooth headphones?
[10:20] <FireStriker> lgnacy maybe i want skype or teamspeak or discord or something like that setup via usb, and everything eles on headphone jack
[10:20] <FireStriker> or the other way around
[10:20] <ducasse> martysia: whether or not you need swap depends on how much memory you have, use a separate partition for /home if you want one, but you don't need one.
[10:25] <sacarde> hi
[10:25] <sacarde> what way do you suggest me to build a module not included in kernel?
[10:25] <kernello> ducasse, thank you for your help!
[10:26] <ducasse> kernello: np :)
[10:26] <sacarde> non included by configuration]
[10:30] <FireStriker> Ignacy: maybe i want skype or teamspeak or discord or something like that setup via usb, and everything eles on headphone jack
[10:31] <ducasse> FireStriker: afaik pulseaudio can route different audio streams to different outputs, but i've never tried it.
[10:31] <FireStriker> how do i find that?
[10:31] <ducasse> FireStriker: try pasystray
[10:38] <a1322> Hello! I just used Kubuntu installation wizard and encrypted the SSD. The whole SSD is not encrypted all due, see the picture below.
[10:38] <a1322> http://oi65.tinypic.com/2na4qrs.jpg
[10:39] <reisio> a1322: hrmm?
[10:39] <a1322> reisio: The encryption message and password needs to be typed
[10:39] <a1322> But why is it partion likke that? Three partions
[10:39] <a1322> partioned*
[10:39] <mich> hey, does anyone here know how to use a monitor and lcd tv together?  I can't get the right resolution ... for video streaming
[10:39] <Ben64> open gparted and look
[10:40] <reisio> a1322: that says drives, not partitions
[10:40] <a1322> reisio: But I only have one drive inserted now....
[10:40] <Ben64> a1322: pastebin the output of 'sudo parted -l'
[10:41] <a1322> Ben64: WIll, just installing gparted atm
[10:41] <lapidus> a1322: it seems all 3 of them are about the same size as your SSD. Thats 'cos they're nested - normal inside crypted inside normal
[10:42] <a1322> lapidius, reisio, ben64: http://pastebin.com/r0WW3PMt
[10:42] <reisio> ah, yeah, probably just a dumb GUI
[10:42] <Ben64> a1322: yep looks fine. efi partition, probably the boot partition, then your main one
[10:43] <a1322> Ben64: Ahh so the 488 MB ("Drive") is the bootloader (GRUB2)
[10:44] <Ben64> probably
[10:44] <a1322> But why cannot you have all likke in Windows? WHer you have one single drive (partion)
[10:44] <Ben64> you can
[10:44] <cfhowlett> a1322, bad idea.  if it breaks, it ALL breaks and then you must reinstall. but if you insist ...
[10:45] <jatt> at least have a different partition for /home
[10:45] <a1322> Sorry guys, I am a newbie
[10:45] <a1322> But home is the personal folder I guess
[10:45] <cfhowlett> no sorry needed.  we're glad you ask questions.
[10:45] <a1322> Why should home be seperated from the rest?
[10:45] <cfhowlett> a1322, makes it easier to upgrade and/or reinstall.
[10:45] <a1322> ahhh
[10:46] <cfhowlett> !home | a1322
[10:47] <a1322> Ben64: Ahhh now I understand. My drive which totally (464GB) and it is like a "mount" which open up the remaning system which are encrypted
[10:47] <a1322> Thnaks cfhowlett
[10:47] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[10:48] <a1322> cfhowlett: Dude Linux or Linux-kernel is diffrent from Windows...I just realized that you cannot encrypt once your installation is setuped
[10:48] <a1322> Tried using dmcrypt manually but failed... :P
[10:48] <cfhowlett> a1322, false.  you can absolutely do a post install encrypt
[10:49] <cfhowlett> !encrypt | a1322
[10:49] <a1322> cfhowlett: We are talking full-encryption
[10:49] <cfhowlett> a1322, as in full filesystem?
[10:49] <a1322> yup
[10:49] <a1322> whole drive
[10:49] <cfhowlett> a1322, pretty sure you can do a full drive encrypt post install but you might need to do it from a USB
[10:50] <a1322> cfhowlett: tried yesterday dmcrypt -luksformat on my primary SSD /sdb/
[10:50] <a1322> It said it was mounted and therefore could not
[10:50] <a1322> So I need to unmount it and do it from a live USB
[10:51] <cfhowlett> a1322, yeah you have to boot an ubuntu usb, chroot the target then encrypt
[10:51] <a1322> cfhowlett: May I ask, a hard question maybe?
[10:52] <cfhowlett> a1322, ask but this is all approaching the limits of my knowledge
[10:52] <a1322> cfhowlett: I could guess...but question is which hash does the default encryption on Ubuntu / Kubuntu use?
[10:52] <a1322> I did not find while googling
[10:53] <cfhowlett> over my head, amigo
[10:53] <a1322> np dude
[10:53] <ducasse> a1322: aes, afaik
[10:53] <cfhowlett> sounds right ^^^
[10:53] <a1322> ducasse: Yeah I mean cipher
[10:53] <ducasse> oh, hash
[10:53] <a1322> Like SHA512
[10:53] <a1322> I which AES?
[10:53] <a1322> AES,Twofish or seperent?
[10:53] <a1322> :P
[10:54] <a1322> But I need to learn more
[10:54] <ducasse> a1322: iirc, it runs a benchmark and picks the best.
[10:54] <ducasse> 'cryptsetup benchmark'
[10:54] <a1322> ducasse: Ahhh I see, I want to "securest" all due. I do not care about the speed :D
[10:54] <a1322> I was running HDD with full encryption with a heavy hash :D
[10:55] <ducasse> a1322: then rtfm :)
[10:55] <FireStriker> ducasse: do you mind finding me a link i am looking for it atm
[10:55] <a1322> ducasse, Ben64, cfhowlett: THanks guys <3
[10:55] <cfhowlett> a1322, best of luck
[10:55] <ducasse> FireStriker: link for...?
[10:56] <FireStriker> afaik pulseaudio
[10:56] <ducasse> FireStriker: you mean pasystray? it's in the repos.
[10:57] <root____> man
[10:57] <root____> exit
[10:58] <FireStriker> ok ins in the repos what do i type
[10:59] <ducasse> FireStriker: 'sudo apt install pasystray'
[11:04] <ducasse> !pm | a1322
[11:04] <martysia>  anyone knows how to start ubuntu with grub?  I have just installed ubuntu  and after reboot there was no grub - it went straight into windows
[11:05] <FireStriker> oh sounds like windows fixed something in the MBR
[11:06] <ducasse> martysia: uefi or legacy?
[11:06] <martysia> uefi
[11:06] <martysia> gpt
[11:07] <ducasse> martysia: did you install grub to the efi partition?
[11:07] <martysia> to the default one
[11:07] <martysia> I think it was sda
[11:07] <FireStriker> ducasse: i know you havnet used it but any idear how to run it?
[11:07] <martysia> without any number
[11:08] <FireStriker> nvm found it
[11:09] <ducasse> martysia: it should be with a number, the efi partition is usually sda1.
[11:10] <martysia> it was the default one
[11:11] <martysia> how was i suppose to know that i should chane it?
[11:11] <martysia> nvm - how to fix it?
[11:12] <ducasse> martysia: boot a live usb, chroot into your install then read this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#Installation_2
[11:15] <checkz> i want to make a joke to a friend. any ideas on how to run a sh file that will print lines like they're part of the output of an application being executed in real time, and also a few extra lines like there's someone actually writing instructions on the other side?
[11:17] <oomyudo> test
[11:17] <reisio> pass
[11:17] <qqqeq> Hello guys I have two SSD with two diffrent OS (Win10 and Kubuntu). My Kubuntu drive is encrypted with inbuilt encryption. When I am inside the Linux system can the Windows drive somehow if a virus is affected to it, have contact with my linux system?
[11:18] <qqqeq> I am wondering about unmounting the other SSD where the Win10 system is stored on
[11:18] <cfhowlett> qqqeq, never heard of same happening
[11:18] <ak5> hi, is there something that can tell me when the last time apt cache was updated was?
[11:19] <gebruiker> I installed ubuntu-mate but I would like the font from the terminal in unity. What is the name of the font?
[11:19] <Wulf> ak5: I believe so
[11:20] <ducasse> gebruiker: dejavu sans mono, i'd guess
[11:20] <cfhowlett> ducasse, noto sans  ?
[11:20] <ducasse> ak5: the timestamp on the files
[11:20] <qqqeq> I am unable to unmount it through "# lsof | grep '/dev/sda1'"
[11:20] <ducasse> cfhowlett: dunno, don't run unity. isn't noto a cjk font?
[11:21] <ak5> ducasse: filestystem timestamp?
[11:21] <cfhowlett> ducasse, I don't unity either, but I thought I read that noto was the default in all *buntu.  could be wrong
[11:21] <ducasse> ak5: the timestamp on the cache files
[11:22] <ak5> ducasse: you mean from `stat`
[11:22] <ak5> ?
[11:22] <qqqeq> I cannot unmount a drive (sda) which Win10 is installed on, using "sudo lsof | grep '/dev/sda1'"
[11:23] <qqqeq> How do I unmount it?
[11:23] <ducasse> ak5: for example, 'ls' should also tell you.
[11:23] <ducasse> qqqeq: 'sudo umount /dev/sda1'
[11:24] <qqqeq> ducasee: Very weird, it says not mounted but when using lsblk it is there displayed
[11:25] <ducasse> qqqeq: try 'df'
[11:25] <Guest2437> Hi
[11:26] <qqqeq> ducasse: sda4 is the main partion in sda but I can still see in lsblk the sda
[11:26] <qqqeq> ducasse: /dev/sda4                    243618812 18920572 224698240   8% /media/unknown/480AB1A10AB18C86
[11:27] <Guest2437> About what do you guys talk in this chat
[11:27] <ducasse> qqqeq: then unmount it?
[11:27] <qqqeq> did it, still in dolphin (shows up) and in lsblk
[11:27] <qqqeq> That's the thing
[11:27] <Guest2437> Someone can read me
[11:28] <cfhowlett> Guest2437, ask your ubuntu questions
[11:28] <Guest2437> ah fine thaks for answer let me think how i will ask this xD
[11:28] <gebruiker> guys is JFS still maintained?
[11:29] <ducasse> gebruiker: sure.
[11:30] <ducasse> qqqeq: i wouldn't trust what dolphin says, but i expect gvfs might be automounting it.
[11:30] <Guest2437> Well there's a way to enter in root mode or admin in a standard user account, without recovery?
[11:30] <ducasse> Guest2437: 'sudo'
[11:31] <qqqeq> ducasse: How can I remove it from dolphin? Except "hide"
[11:31] <ducasse> qqqeq: no clue, don't use it.
[11:32] <gebruiker> ducasse: i am interested in trying out JFS on a low-end desktop machine running mate. Because of low cpu usage, but I am a bit concerned about the performance compared to ext4 . . .
[11:32] <Guest2437> Yeah my teacher blocked me these ways because i changed the whole computer passwords, now i have blocked all those thing and if i enter and im able to create and admin account i will take a really good grades
[11:32] <cfhowlett> Guest2437, wrong channel.  go commit crimes elsewhere.
[11:33] <Guest2437> Alright what is the channel for talk about this things?
[11:33] <ducasse> Guest2437: we don't care
[11:33] <cfhowlett> Guest2437, you're a smart guy.  figure it out.   we don't aid in crimes.
[11:34] <Guest2437> Ok thanks for answer and im sorry for ask this didn't know sorry. Good luck!
[11:35] <ducasse> gebruiker: i doubt you need to worry about performance in that case.
[11:37] <gebruiker> ducasse: where do ext4 and jfs differ in terms of my question? ( i have been google'ing, but I have not found a very clarifying answer)
[11:38] <ducasse> gebruiker: all i can tell you is i didn't have any performance problems when i ran it last, but that was a couple of years ago.
[11:40] <ducasse> gebruiker: maybe you can find some benchmarks on phoronix.
[11:42] <mosez> hi
[11:45] <qqqeq> clear
[11:45] <mosez> does somebody know what this error means? i try to create an lvm setup on /dev/nbd2 and /dev/nbd3, pvcreate and vgcreate works fine, lvcreate fails. the folder /dev/VGNAME also doesn't get created: https://gist.github.com/tboerger/5f0b06ffd94f2f92fadd66435ca3f49c
[11:45] <mosez> it's a 16.04 installation
[11:46] <ikonia> mosez: what are those devices
[11:46] <ikonia> as in the disk devices
[11:46] <Wulf> mosez: did you create a vg?
[11:46] <mosez> these are network volumes
[11:47] <ikonia> mosez: as in iscsi ?
[11:47] <ikonia> (or something like that)
[11:47] <mosez> wulf: pvdisplay and vgdisplay output is part of the gist
[11:47] <Wulf> nbd = network block device
[11:47] <qqqeq> How do I hide a drive which is a NTFS (Windows 10)
[11:47] <mosez> ikonia: it's a network block device, the only additional volumes you can get at scaleway servers.
[11:48] <Wulf> mosez: maybe tcpdump the nbd traffic?
[11:48] <ikonia> ahhh scaleway
[11:48] <ikonia> interesting, never used that
[11:48] <qqqeq> I already unmounted it but it shows up in Dolphin, I can have it off when I start linux
[11:48] <mosez> wulf: while executing lvcreate?
[11:48] <ikonia> mosez: do you have any volumes on that voluem group
[11:48] <ikonia> as that error suggests it is not happy using that physical device
[11:48] <Wulf> mosez: maybe over the whole thing
[11:49] <mosez> ikonia: no volumes yet, wanted to create the first one
[11:49] <ikonia> mosez: intereting, I've never used scaleway, so I'll be interesting to see if this works
[11:50] <onryo> Does Ubuntu have ads ?
[11:50] <Wulf> advertisement?
[11:50] <onryo> yeah
[11:50] <mosez> ok, i will try tcpdump while creating that... let's see what i get
[11:50] <Wulf> onryo: I believe I've seen advertisement *for* ubuntu, but not inside
[11:50] <mosez> i really want to get that working :D
[11:50] <mosez> no other "cloud" provider is so cheap like scaleway
[11:51] <cloud> hi
[11:52] <Wulf> mosez: I don't them. I enjoy the featuritis of AWS
[11:52] <qqqeq> How do I found out a serial number on a hadrrive?
[11:53] <qqqeq> Tried using udevadm info --attribute-walk --name=/dev/sda but it does not help
[11:53] <onryo> Wulf was thinking of installing Ubuntu but last I used it (a few years ago) advertisments for Amazon etc kept popping up when I searched the repos.
[11:53] <ducasse> qqqeq: 'ls -l /dev/disk/by-id' or smartctl
[11:53] <mosez> wulf: aws is far too expensive for me :)
[11:54] <qqqeq> Thx Ducasse
[11:55] <onryo> aws  ...you mean the op that use to like Dr Who a few years back? Like back in 2010-ish ??
[11:56] <ducasse> onryo: amazon web services
[11:56] <onryo> ahh =)
[11:58] <ducasse> onryo: that 'search amazon' thingy defaults to off now, the default used to be on.
[11:58] <RatchetTheGamer> Hey guys I install ubuntu and it's not argreaing with my laptop how do I uninstall it?
[11:58] <onryo> Goog to know. Gonna give Ubuntu a whirl then
[11:59] <RatchetTheGamer> Going to install lubuntu after I uninstall it
[11:59] <cfhowlett> RatchetTheGamer, whoa there!
[11:59] <cfhowlett> RatchetTheGamer, does ubuntu boot??
[11:59] <RatchetTheGamer> Yes it boots
[12:00] <onryo> RatchetTheGamer, lol no, I am on FreeBSD nigglet 11.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p1 #0 r306420
[12:00] <onryo> but need GNU/Linux at this job since they hate Clang and I dont like to use gcc on BSD
[12:00] <cfhowlett> RatchetTheGamer, then you are about to become elite.  open a terminal and do this:  sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop
[12:01] <RatchetTheGamer> Ok
[12:01] <RatchetTheGamer> Wish me luck
[12:01] <cfhowlett> after that, reboot
[12:02] <RatchetTheGamer> Does that change os or desktop?
[12:02] <cfhowlett> RatchetTheGamer, lubuntu is the OS and lxde will be your new desktop environment = lubuntu
[12:03] <nexace> how can I send ALT-F in ubuntu terminal? everytime I press it, terminal tries to do something locally. I need the ALT-F to actually be sent.
[12:03] <nexace> ?
[12:03] <Wulf> nexace: try ctrl-v ctrl-f
[12:03] <nexace> ok
[12:03] <Wulf> err.. ctrl-v alt-f
[12:04] <RatchetTheGamer> Ok now doing the command
[12:06] <RatchetTheGamer> So it goes from slow, heavy Ubuntu (on my old laptop) to Fast, light Weight Lubuntu
[12:06] <cfhowlett> indeed
[12:07] <RatchetTheGamer> Removes all of the stuff from ubuntu and replaces it with the stuff from lubuntu? It keeps my files right?
[12:08] <cfhowlett> RatchetTheGamer, yes but then you DID perform your backup first, right?  RIGHT?
[12:08] <RatchetTheGamer> It was a test run anyway so there's nothing of importants on it
[12:10] <rocket__> hi, every time i login ubuntu wants me to login into the keyring when i start chrome, how to automate this?
[12:11] <RatchetTheGamer> The most important thing I have is saved, just a program I worked On
[12:11] <RatchetTheGamer> I am going to miss the dock is there a dock for lubuntu?
[12:12] <DarkSoul> gnome-session seems to lose its mind when metacity crashes, and it kills everything in its wake :/
[12:12] <DarkSoul> anyone had that happen?
[12:12] <cfhowlett> RatchetTheGamer, look in the software center
[12:12] <RatchetTheGamer> Ok
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> RatchetTheGamer  havent followe, but there's cairo-dock
[12:12] <DarkSoul> in the end when I relog in, I do : metacity --replace &!
[12:12] <DarkSoul> to recreate a process not owned by gnome-session
[12:13] <DarkSoul> and this dodges the logout problem (fail whale error)
[12:13] <ducasse> RatchetTheGamer: i think it has one, and there are many to choose from
[12:13] <RatchetTheGamer> Cool I like a choice
[12:13] <cfhowlett> ubuntu is all about choices  :)
[12:14] <martysia> how do I chroot into bash on ubuntu live usb?
[12:14] <RatchetTheGamer> I have another laptop i think it will work well on, can I change the order of the GRUB?
[12:14] <ikonia> mount the file systems and chroot into where you mount them
[12:14] <ducasse> !fixgrub | martysia
[12:15] <RatchetTheGamer> So that if I do nothing it boots into windows not ubuntu
[12:17] <RatchetTheGamer> Ok the command is done just reboot?
[12:18] <rocket__> is a blank password the only way to autolog into the default keyring?
[12:21] <RatchetTheGamer> Um.....
[12:22] <RatchetTheGamer> I am back in ubuntu lol
[12:23] <ducasse> RatchetTheGamer: as in, not lubuntu?
[12:23] <cfhowlett> RatchetTheGamer, eh whot??
[12:24] <RatchetTheGamer> The first login screen is lubuntu the boot and shutdown screen is lubuntu but the desktop and the os is still ubuntu unity still there
[12:24] <cfhowlett> RatchetTheGamer, logout, click the gear icon, choose lxde / lubuntu session and login
[12:31] <averneus> hey
[12:31] <averneus> I am an ubuntu newbie
[12:32] <averneus> is Flash player not anymore supppoted for linux machines?
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> !flash
[12:34] <EDinNY> How do I get around this? Installing Dell printer utilities in 16.04.  It requires libsnmp15, but the OS provides libsnmp30.  How can I correct this?
[12:34] <kk4ewt> averneus,  adobe has only been sometimes doing only security builds for years, Flash is being phased out if you need flash i highly suggest you use chrome (its flash player is a lot safer)
[12:34] <ikonia> EDinNY: you can't
[12:35] <EDinNY> ikonia: the utilities appear to be Python...no way to make them work with the later version of the lib?
[12:35] <nur> darova
[12:35] <nur> vsem
[12:36] <EDinNY> ikonia: can you compile the earlier version to get it to work?
[12:36] <martysia> ducasse, C:\Users\marty>bcdedit /set {bootmgr} "path\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi"
[12:36] <martysia> The boot configuration data store could not be opened.
[12:36] <martysia> Access is denied.
[12:36] <ikonia> EDinNY: if they work or not is one thing, the package depend problem is a differnt one
[12:36] <ikonia> EDinNY: if you built a package with the earlier version the dependencies would conflict
[12:37] <nur> есть руские?
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[12:38] <EDinNY> ikonia: so I need to run an old ubuntu version in Virtualbox to make this work?
[12:38] <ikonia> EDinNY: that seems an over the top solution, but certailny one
[12:40] <martysia> http://paste2.org/88v18mzH
[12:47] <robot> hi ther
[12:48] <robot> wlan0 error plz
[12:48] <robot> §§§????
[12:48] <lucas-arg> hello all... one question, i had to do sudo --add-architecture i386 to be able to install steam last night, still cant see i386 packages in synaptics, im on ubuntu 16.10
[12:48] <lucas-arg> i dont know if thats a bug or not
[12:48] <lucas-arg> only way was installing form terminal...
[12:49] <robot> my wifi card not working
[12:49] <Trump-2016> how secure is encrypted home folder if computer is stolen?
[12:49] <cfhowlett> very
[12:54]  * falcon_ says hello to everyone 
[12:55] <falcon_> Hello says /me
[12:55]  * falcon_ says hello to everyone 
[12:55] <falcon_> Guys
[12:55] <cfhowlett> falcon_, ask your ubuntu questions.
[12:55] <falcon_> Yes sir..
[12:56] <SchrodingersScat> Trump-2016: from a random thief I would think it's very secure, especially if it powers down, although a screen lock should defend it fairly well as well.  The easier ways to bypass a password normally need a reboot, and then the files would be encrypted with a hopefully long passphrase you set.
[12:56] <falcon_> Cfhowlett do you know how to install gns 3 on ubuntu
[12:57] <cfhowlett> never heard of it, but if it's in the repos, sudo apt install ...
[12:57] <falcon_> Its definitely not in repos i tried sudo apt-get install gns3
[12:58] <cfhowlett> falcon_,  the source website should guide you
[12:58] <falcon_> Source website? Link?
[12:58] <cfhowlett> falcon_, where did you get it
[12:58] <SchrodingersScat> !info gns3
[12:59] <cfhowlett> falcon_, this^^ note: in the repos!
[12:59] <falcon_> Oh..
[12:59] <SchrodingersScat> falcon_: what version you on? It seems to be in xenial and yakkety
[12:59] <falcon_> 16.04
[12:59] <falcon_> Iam on 16.04
[12:59] <SchrodingersScat> k, should be good, my laptop is 16.04 and it has it in repos
[13:00] <falcon_> Funny its not in my repos.d
[13:00] <SchrodingersScat> multiverse repo, check if it's enabled on your machine
[13:00] <falcon_> How To do that?
[13:01] <cfhowlett> falcon_, go to the software center, click the icon and change your settings
[13:02] <SchrodingersScat> falcon_: for a guy I have a 'Software & Updates' menu option which lets me check the 'multiverse' repo.  Otherwise you can check /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:02] <SchrodingersScat> *gui
[13:02] <pineapplelover_> hello how do I specify which version of java I want to run in this command? java -jar /pepe/myprogram.jar
[13:02] <SchrodingersScat> use the full path or use update-alternatives?
[13:02] <pineapplelover_> the system uses 8 and I need to use 7 for myprogram.jar
[13:02] <lordcirth> pineapplelover_, if you have multiple versions of java installed, use the full path
[13:02] <falcon_> Ok..  I will do that. Thanks
[13:03] <pineapplelover_> lordcirth: full path to java huh?
[13:03] <pineapplelover_> where is it installed by default¿
[13:04] <lordcirth> pineapplelover_, `which java`
[13:04] <pineapplelover_> 7
[13:04] <SchrodingersScat> pineapplelover_: you can use 'which java' but there's also this to change the default, iirc, update-alternatives --config java
[13:04] <lordcirth>  /usr/bin/java
[13:04] <pineapplelover_> I just wanted to include that in the .desktop file...
[13:05] <scalpy> i have to repair the system. how can i boot into text mode and prevent unity from being started?
[13:05] <pineapplelover_> because the desktop file is using the default java and therefore the program is not launching
[13:06] <DJones> !text | scalpy I'm not sure if this still works or has been outdated, but might be worth a try
[13:06] <ioria> scalpy, what ubuntu are you using ?
[13:06] <scalpy> 16.10
[13:07] <ioria> scalpy, can you open a console ?
[13:07] <scalpy> i cannot login via unity
[13:07] <ioria> scalpy, yes, can you open a console ? alt+ctrl+f1 (or f2)
[13:07] <scalpy> mom
[13:08] <ioria> mom ?
[13:08] <scalpy> moment
[13:08] <scalpy> just booting
[13:09] <ioria> ok
[13:09] <scalpy> text does not help at the end of the line
[13:09] <scalpy> console orks
[13:09] <scalpy> works
[13:09] <scalpy> how can i switch of that unity is being started?
[13:09] <ioria> scalpy, ok,  sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target
[13:10] <ioria> scalpy, and reboot
[13:10] <scalpy> what does that do?
[13:10] <ioria> scalpy, set text mode boot
[13:10] <scalpy> created symlink
[13:10] <ioria> yep
[13:11] <scalpy> my original problem is that i have only 640x480 resolution after update from 16.04 to 16.19
[13:11] <scalpy> 16.10
[13:12] <scalpy> nvidia-304 seems to be broken
[13:12] <ioria> scalpy, ok, but that's another issue
[13:12] <pineapplelover_> lordcirth: how do I find where My Java 7 is installed?¿
[13:13] <lordcirth> pineapplelover_, just use update-alternatives as mentioned
[13:13] <pineapplelover_> java -Xms1G -Xmx4G -jar /home/ivan/.Programs/MyProgram.jar
[13:13] <pineapplelover_> where?
[13:14] <pineapplelover_> in the command?
[13:14] <pineapplelover_> update-alternatives java -Xms1G -Xmx4G -jar /home/ivan/.minecraft/forge-1.7.2-10.12.2.1121-universal.jar
[13:14] <OerHeks> update-alternatives java - gives a choise between installed java versions, not a starter to your jar
[13:15] <pineapplelover_> ok
[13:16] <moestevens> Is there a "proper" way of installing Oracle Java, other than downloading it from that random ppa?
[13:17] <fir3wall> Hello is creating raid array is missing from disks utility in 16.04? I had it in 14.04 but now cannot see a way to do this with GUI. Is only supported way now is console?
[13:17] <OerHeks> moestevens, follow the java wiki, there is no other proper way for that binairy blob
[13:19] <Istanbul_Sea> hello
[13:19] <OerHeks> moestevens, and you might get updates too
[13:20] <pineapplelover_> update-alternatives --config java gives me 3 options but I want to keep the java 8 as default! I only want that single .desktop file to open that java 7 program
[13:20] <pineapplelover_> isn't that possible?
[13:20] <pineapplelover_> there must be an easy way because when I directly click the java file it launches!
[13:21] <pineapplelover_> I only want to update a .desktop file to keep the desktop shortcut working
[13:23] <OerHeks> so pissible your program runs fine on java 8?
[13:23] <OerHeks> c/possible
[13:23] <pineapplelover_> hmmm
[13:25] <pineapplelover_> it gives me this error OerHeks: http://pastebin.com/F8aByWmi
[13:26] <OerHeks> maybe you can run a specified java version, with the environment set correct > http://askubuntu.com/questions/349071/run-different-java-based-on-command-line-parameter
[13:26] <OerHeks> never done that myself, i would question why that app does not run on java8.
[13:26] <OerHeks> openjdk8 that is.
[13:26] <yucel> selam
[13:27] <yucel> arkadaşlar
[13:27] <OerHeks> !tr | yucel
[13:27] <pineapplelover_> OerHeks:  anyway I wonder why just clicking the jar files works and not using the .desktop file
[13:29] <OerHeks> pineapplelover_, with java8 set as default, and clicking the jar works, i say it works fine on java 8..
[13:29] <pineapplelover_> !!!!
[13:29] <OerHeks> maybe you did something wrong with the starter, who can tell?
[13:29] <pineapplelover_> then the error is not version related?
[13:30] <OerHeks> wait, i don't know what is in the starter?
[13:30] <pineapplelover_> no because I just copied the java -jar /pathtofile pasted it in terminal and that gave me the error I posted
[13:31] <pineapplelover_> I am puzzled
[13:35] <yucel> hi everyone
[13:37] <Valkry_is_new> i am in severe need of help :(
[13:38] <Valkry_is_new> my winblows install crashed, and managed to wipe y entire backup external that was connected to it somehow, of this i have no idea but i digress...
[13:38] <Valkry_is_new> on to my issue
[13:38] <Valkry_is_new> i managed to find my old backtrack 5r3 live disc and booted into it
[13:39] <Valkry_is_new>  but i cant seem to install it as there is a significant cratch ont he disc :/ freezees during the actual in stall, so now i am on the live desktiop
[13:39] <cfhowlett> !backtrack
[13:39] <Valkry_is_new> i downloaded a windows iso from microshaft with my product key, but the repository ro the distro i am using is no longer availible so i can not install any iso burning tool
[13:39] <cfhowlett> Valkry_is_new, backtrack is not supported here
[13:39] <Valkry_is_new> i know
[13:39] <Valkry_is_new> i dont need backtrack support
[13:40] <Valkry_is_new> i need to know how to install gnomebaker or similar
[13:40] <Valkry_is_new> i am completely new to the ubuntu/linux shell
[13:40] <OerHeks> live iso got brasero standard, no?
[13:41] <Valkry_is_new> i dont thisk so :x i cannot find brasero
[13:41] <OerHeks> Then i don't know, backtrack is so old.
[13:42] <Valkry_is_new> nope, currently not installed. i jsut downloaded a brasero 3.3 which will work fr this unsopported distro, but after extractign the archive what is the next step to installing?
[13:42] <Valkry_is_new> i know :/
[13:42] <Valkry_is_new> do i just cd the directory and ./configure?
[13:42] <Valkry_is_new> or i guess chmod +x ./configure
[13:43] <OerHeks> right, "unsopported distro"
[13:43] <ducasse> Valkry_is_new: you would need all the build tools, they won't be on the live image. anyway, you're in the wrong channel.
[13:43] <Valkry_is_new> the prob is i have no usb media rightnow and  even if i download a new distro liek kali i have no idea how to make a bootable disc with it here withoutbrasero haha
[13:43] <Valkry_is_new> oh sorry
[13:43]  * OerHeks runs away from backtrack
[13:43] <Valkry_is_new> :/
[13:44] <Valkry_is_new> i do have multiple hdd's in my pc, is there a way to install a distro onto a clean internal hdd from a livedisk?
[13:44] <Valkry_is_new> i mena.. i guess im in the wrong channel..
[13:44] <ducasse> Valkry_is_new: try ##linux
[13:45] <RatchetTheGamer> Hey all what's a good partition size for lubuntu
[13:46] <cfhowlett> 10gb for the filesystem should be more than adequate
[13:47] <RatchetTheGamer> Ok 25gb for apps and buffer maybe even20gb
[13:47] <RatchetTheGamer> 30gb would be enough?
[13:47] <cfhowlett> yes
[13:48] <Feren^IRCCloud> Hi. I enable vi mode by 'bindkey -v' in '.zshrc' file, but vi mode not work when start shell first time.
[13:48] <Feren^IRCCloud> I try solve this problem, search in Google, StackOverflow, YouTube(for see other user's vi mode screen) and zsh freenode channel, but I can't find any solution.
[13:48] <Feren^IRCCloud> Can I get some advice to solve this problem?
[13:48] <RatchetTheGamer> Ok
[13:48] <Valkry_is_new> i cant send any messages to ##Linux... even registered my nick and cant. do i need +v or some shit
[13:48] <Valkry_is_new> sigh
[13:49] <SchrodingersScat> !ohmy | Valkry_is_new
[13:49] <Valkry_is_new> im guessing that channel isnt supported here
[13:49] <Valkry_is_new> and thus cannot be troubleshooted
[13:49] <Valkry_is_new> lmfao
[13:51] <OerHeks> Valkry_is_new, you may be registered, but not logged in, account - unknown
[13:51] <RatchetTheGamer> What's the best way to edit partitions so that I have a partition for data and what not that is linked between windows and lubuntu
[13:51] <cfhowlett> !home | RatchetTheGamer
[13:52] <ducasse> RatchetTheGamer: if you want to share data you can set up an ntfs partition.
[13:53] <RatchetTheGamer> Yep I just want to know the best way to make a data "swap" partition
[13:53] <RatchetTheGamer> I have free space for lubuntu
[13:53] <RatchetTheGamer> Something like 60gb
[13:54] <cfhowlett> RatchetTheGamer, personally I don't trust windows enough to not screw my *buntu.  Put dropbox in windows and ubuntu and share via the cloud
[13:54] <cfhowlett> IMHO
[13:56] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:09] <quqt> Hello everybody. I have a Dell laptop with integrated graphics + an AMD Radeon(TM) R5 M335 4GB DDR3 GPU. I installed Ubuntu 16.04 last April, and I remember that I found out that it was rather dificult to make the GPU work and to handle the switching between the two cards. Now I remember nothing about what I did and (1) I'm not sure which graphics
[14:09] <quqt> I am using, (2) I don't know if and how I can use the Radeon card (for Blender3d for instance).
[14:14] <jack> Hey
[14:17] <cuddle> hi
[14:17] <jack> yo
[14:17] <cuddle> how is everyone
[14:17] <cuddle> i would like to install steam
[14:17] <cuddle> on ubuntu
[14:17] <ikonia> ok ?
[14:17] <jack> Hmm.
[14:17] <cuddle> help?
[14:17] <jack> Im also new.
[14:17] <cuddle> fuark
[14:18] <jack> google.com :)
[14:18] <cuddle> fuck google
[14:18] <OerHeks> !steam
[14:18] <ikonia> cuddle: do not swear
[14:18] <cuddle> **** google (sorry)
[14:18] <ikonia> you'll find it easier if you just ask direct questions
[14:18] <ikonia> rather than pondering out loud
[14:18] <jack> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Steam
[14:19] <cuddle> lol i tried searching everything guess im just a little annoyed that ubuntu is the best software and its so hard to put the best game on there (steam) i wish everyone can play and they make it so hard for people to play. you feel me?
[14:19] <OerHeks> jack, please, first google, now a german wiki ..
[14:19] <Frankenstein> TIL steam is a game
[14:19] <jack> :D
[14:19] <cuddle> lol
[14:19] <cuddle> game gateway drug
[14:19] <cuddle> steam = game gate way
[14:19] <jack> I though it was the eng website wups
[14:19] <cuddle> to all the other games
[14:20] <Frankenstein> to some games, sure
[14:20] <cuddle> steam is the best to play all ur favorite games
[14:20] <cuddle> my favorite is counter-strike
[14:20] <ikonia> cuddle: gaming on linux is weak, thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[14:20] <Frankenstein> ^
[14:20] <ikonia> steam will have limited linux games for you, and how well they run for you will depend on a few things
[14:20] <OerHeks> cuddle, go follow the wiki and install?
[14:20] <cuddle> ya im good i guess i dont have to play cs on ubuntu
[14:20] <BluesKaj> buy an xbox ;-)
[14:20] <cuddle> i just thought it would make me cool
[14:20] <cuddle> to play cs on ubuntu...
[14:21] <jack> wow
[14:21] <ducasse> lol
[14:21] <cuddle> im just trying to impress the internet
[14:21] <cuddle> 1 click head shot
[14:22] <cuddle> i love this song its called "feed me - 1 click headshot"
[14:22] <neewbiecoolBR> algum brasileiro?
[14:23] <ikonia> cuddle: this channel isn't a chat channel, it's just for ubuntu support, if you could please try to stick only on that topic, it would be great
[14:23] <OerHeks> !br
[14:24] <jack> Im master.
[14:24] <cuddle> where can i go to chat
[14:24] <ikonia> cuddle: try ##chat
[14:24] <jack> I done it to install Adobe XD
[14:24] <cuddle> ty sry guys
[14:24] <ikonia> cuddle: not a problem
[14:25] <jack> So i have a question: Im using Ubuntu MATE and theres a programm which reads out where you are clicking at
[14:25] <jack> How to turn that off?
[14:26] <OerHeks> orca screen reader ?> http://askubuntu.com/questions/278693/how-do-i-stop-orca-screen-reader
[14:26] <OerHeks> insert + Q
[14:28] <ducasse> jack: i guess that would be under accessibility settings
[14:28] <ikonia> OerHeks: impressive
[14:32] <PCdude> hi all :)
[14:33] <PCdude> I have made some preseed iso images in the past, but I only needed very little but when I do it saves much times
[14:33] <PCdude> Now its not difficult but the time in between is just to long to go in the file each time and adjust it as needed
[14:33] <PCdude> is there also some kind of GUI I can use to make the preseed ISO?
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd;3D
[14:35] <OerHeks> preseed is just a file, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt
[14:35] <PCdude> yup, I know, but a gui is just easier :)
[14:36] <OerHeks> PCdude, no gui that i know of
[14:36] <kk4ewt> OerHeks,  is there way for people to create updated live isos ?
[14:37] <PCdude> OerHeks: ok, thanks anyway
[14:37] <OerHeks> kk4ewt, no, there are daily builds for the next version, not current ones.
[14:38] <kk4ewt> so those tools are not available to the community if they so desire to do that
[14:38] <OerHeks> oh wait, something might have changed, xenial 16.04 lts http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xenial/daily-live/
[14:39] <OerHeks> this is new to me.
[14:39] <PCdude> I went away there for a second
[14:39] <kk4ewt> no i am asking if there is a way for someine in the community to recreate the isos with updates
[14:39] <ikonia> why ?
[14:39] <ikonia> you can remaster your own ISO's but why would you just not use the ubuntu official images
[14:40] <kk4ewt> why not be able to clean install without vulnerbilities
[14:40] <ikonia> kk4ewt: you update at install time
[14:40] <kk4ewt> out of the box
[14:40] <kk4ewt> and you are vulnerable at that point
[14:40] <ikonia> the risk of you screwing up, is bigger than the risk of patching as you install
[14:41] <kk4ewt> not really
[14:41] <ikonia> yes really
[14:41] <kk4ewt> the fedora community has been doing it for 10 years
[14:41] <ikonia> no, it patches iso's at regular intervals
[14:41] <ikonia> update spins
[14:42] <kk4ewt> yes updated isos
[14:42] <OerHeks> there are updated isos of the current LTS
[14:42] <OerHeks> so what do you want to add?
[14:42] <ikonia> kk4ewt: ubuntu also updates isos at regular internals
[14:42] <ikonia> intervals
[14:42] <kk4ewt> ok
[14:42] <OerHeks> daily live and point releases
[14:43] <ikonia> I'm missing the point / problem here ?
[14:43] <kk4ewt> i am just asking if its possible for community members  have that abilitiy
[14:43] <ikonia> kk4ewt: you can respin and update your iso, no problem
[14:43] <ikonia> kk4ewt: it will not go on the ubuntu site though
[14:44] <kk4ewt> no one said it has to go through the ubuntu site
[14:44] <ikonia> no, I'm just being clear
[14:44] <kk4ewt> are the tools available to the community to generate their own updated isos is my question
[14:44] <OerHeks> it is not worth the effort, imho https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[14:45] <ikonia> things like remastersys
[14:46] <kk4ewt> OerHeks, thank you
[14:46] <ronaldsmazitis> When using Position and zoom effect in kdenlive, where is zoom out function
[14:46] <ronaldsmazitis> How can You zoom in, without zooming out display
[14:51] <OerHeks> ronaldsmazitis, you might want to reask in #kubuntu too
[14:52] <ronaldsmazitis> I said it before, kdenlive is crucial software when using any kind of linux
[14:52] <ducasse> ronaldsmazitis: maybe for you, not in general
[14:53] <OerHeks> it is just a KDE app
[14:53] <ronaldsmazitis> openshot is not good alternative
[14:54] <ronaldsmazitis> what do You use then
[14:55] <OerHeks> Lightworks ? ( 64 bit only)
[14:55] <ronaldsmazitis> in older version of kdenlive, pan and zoom was easy, I could use scroller to out zoom the project window to use four corners of the window
[14:56] <ronaldsmazitis> Lightworks isn't open source rihht
[14:56] <ronaldsmazitis> right *
[14:57] <ronaldsmazitis> youtube 720p max
[14:57] <ronaldsmazitis> what kind of stupid app is that
[15:04] <Guru> hi all
[15:07] <wesleykastil> Salve!!!
[15:07] <wesleykastil> Cade os hackers ?
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> wesleykastil  wrong channel
[15:09] <freettt> Hello. Do you know any way to choose an older kernel as default in grub in ubuntu 16.04 xenial? I tried /etc/default/grub but it seems like it just ignores GRUB_DEFAULT
[15:10] <zykotick9> freettt: did you run "sudo update-grub" after making your change(s)?
[15:11] <freettt> alright, I just purged new package. zykotick9 yeah, i tried
[15:14] <quall__> Hello! I've never used a virtual machine so I have some very ignorant questions: Question 1: Can I use ubuntu 14.04 in a VM with some drivers while my "outer" system (ubuntu 16.04) doesn't have these drivers?
[15:14] <quall__> I think that that's exactly what a VM does, but I wonder if I'm missing something
[15:15] <ducasse> quall__: the guest does not have direct access to the host hardware
[15:15] <quall__> oh, I see
[15:15] <quall__> so I can't
[15:16] <akik> quall__: some pci devices can be passed through to the vm
[15:16] <quall__> I only wanted to try the AMD proprietary drivers
[15:17] <quall__> that I can't use in 16.06 because of newer Xorg
[15:18] <OerHeks> finally you will make the switch, all linux versions will have radeon/amdgpu
[15:18] <quall__> OerHeks: can you please explain better?
[15:19] <quall__> do you think that my radeon card will eventually work with 16.04?
[15:19] <Maxaroth> i need bluetooth help
[15:19] <OerHeks> quall__, what card? it should work fine right now with 16.04
[15:21] <quall__> OerHeks: I have Radeon R5 M335 4GB DDR3, and I think it is currently working with Radeon (open) drivers. However, Blender, which is what I wanted to use my GPU with, doesn't recognize any gpu
[15:22] <quall__> OerHeks: when I say that I think it's working, it's because I can force the variable DRI_PRIME=1 (I have dual graphics) and glxgears renders 6k fps
[15:23] <pkzip> gpg2 --gen-key terminates with: gpg: agent_genkey failed. is gpg2 implemented not correctly in ubuntu? (16.10)
[15:34] <IGotSun> How do I remove the timeout in the GRUB?
[15:36] <ronaldsmazitis> https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=265&t=129434
[15:36] <ronaldsmazitis> why the feature has been removed
[15:39] <ronaldsmazitis> nobody answers me on #kdenlive
[15:39] <ronaldsmazitis> and #kubuntu
[15:39] <OerHeks> ronaldsmazitis, you answered it yourself?
[15:40] <OerHeks> i have no clue why either
[15:40] <ducasse> ronaldsmazitis: you have a better chance of answers in either of those channels
[15:40] <ronaldsmazitis> it was one of the best features in kdenlive
[15:41] <ronaldsmazitis> You can't go back to kdenlive older version, cause it's ubuntu 16.04 already
[15:41] <ronaldsmazitis> if I could install older version beside it could be nice
[15:42] <ducasse> ronaldsmazitis: look for a ppa with an older version, or lobby for having that feature reimplemented
[15:42] <ronaldsmazitis> that will remove newer version
[15:43] <ronaldsmazitis> newer version has some improvments in other things
[15:43] <ducasse> ronaldsmazitis: then do the second thing i suggested
[15:43] <ronaldsmazitis> it will take a year
[15:44] <ducasse> it will take time, yes.
[15:44] <ronaldsmazitis> best way to lobby?
[15:45] <ducasse> i know nothing about the kde way of doing things, i would expect a bugreport and getting others to comment on it that they agree.
[15:46] <ronaldsmazitis> I will tweet this to them
[15:47] <ronaldsmazitis> social networks ftw
[15:48] <ducasse> if they comment on that at all they will probably ask for a bug report.
[15:50] <ronaldsmazitis> I have to create KDE bugtrafficing account
[15:50] <ronaldsmazitis> too much hustle
[15:51] <ducasse> then you don't really care about that feature.
[15:51] <ronaldsmazitis> I just don't have free emails for that
[15:52] <ronaldsmazitis> does ubuntu bug reporting tool takes bug reports like that?
[15:52] <ducasse> yes, but for this you would be told to file it upstream.
[15:53] <OerHeks> ronaldsmazitis, file a simular bugreport and apply to that
[15:54] <OerHeks> maybe the majority find that feature contra-productive or even annoying, there must be a reason why it disappeared
[15:58] <ronaldsmazitis> https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=265&t=129434
[15:58] <ronaldsmazitis> uos
[15:58] <ronaldsmazitis> ups
[15:58] <ronaldsmazitis> Bug 371871 has been successfully created
[15:59] <ronaldsmazitis> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371871
[16:01] <ronaldsmazitis> OerHeks, so how do I take corner after it's zoomed out
[16:01] <ronaldsmazitis> it is out of display
[16:02] <hanasaki> Any recommendations that preferably debian based hosting that has wordpress and ssh access?
[16:04] <ronaldsmazitis> so normal user likes to change it by writing percentage
[16:04] <OerHeks> hanasaki, ask in #debian?
[16:04] <ronaldsmazitis> or writing width and height by hand
[16:04] <ronaldsmazitis> and not dragging mouse
[16:05] <ronaldsmazitis> if You can drag mouse in first place, then dissallow dragging out of project monitor
[16:05] <OerHeks> ronaldsmazitis, i have no clue about grabbing the workspace, it is a KdenLive issue
[16:05] <ronaldsmazitis> it's out of monitor, that is reallly stupid
[16:06] <iNotMe> hi
[16:06] <hanasaki> OerHeks:  oops  sorry .. ubuntu .. not debian.  lol I run debian at home
[16:08] <hellier> Hai
[16:08] <hellier> Can someone recommend a docking station that'll work with my laptop, so I can play 2 external monitors in?
[16:09] <vsd> How do I remove the timeout in GRUB?
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> ronaldsmazitis  there's a #kdenlive channel, try and ask there
[16:10] <ronaldsmazitis> I did everything I can MonkeyDust, I asked there lets see how they will fix this
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> ronaldsmazitis  if there is a fix
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> good luck
[16:11] <ronaldsmazitis> they just have to put feature back
[16:11] <zykotick9> vsd: i just set mine for 1 second GRUB_TIMEOUT=1 in /etc/default/grub (don't forget to run "sudo update-grub" after making the change)
[16:11] <ducasse> raj: that might involve major work
[16:11] <ducasse> ronaldsmazitis: ^^
[16:12] <vsd> zykotick9: No no, I do not want a timeout (it will select automatic)
[16:12] <vsd> I havew two OS:s so I want the timeout disabled
[16:12] <akik> vsd: GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 means immediately
[16:12] <vsd> akik: So how do I disable GRUB_TIMEOUT
[16:12] <vsd> Tried -1
[16:12] <vsd> But still it is 10sec default time
[16:13] <vsd> Meaning I do not want a timeout
[16:13] <akik> vsd: did you run sudo update-grub ?
[16:13] <vsd> akik: I did but it changed the GRUB.cfg of course
[16:13] <vsd> akik: I customized it
[16:13] <WesternMusic>  /bin/sed -i -r 's/(\bset timeout=)[0-9]+/\11/' /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[16:14] <WesternMusic>  /bin/sed -i -r 's/(\bset timeout=)[0-9]+/\11/' /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[16:14] <vsd> WesternMusic: What does it do?
[16:14] <WesternMusic> replaces 10 secs with one second
[16:14] <WesternMusic> replaces any x secs with one sec
[16:15] <snfgf> GREETINGS FRIENDS
[16:15] <OerHeks> wrong approach, # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE # It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates # from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
[16:15] <OerHeks> lolz
[16:15] <vsd> I think I wrote it wrong. I I have two OS:s Windows 10 and Linux. I do not want a timeout. I want nothing to be choosen automatic
[16:15] <OerHeks> !grub
[16:15] <OerHeks> easy to find in the manual
[16:15] <vsd> So meaning if I go afk, theere should be no timeout so i can choose when I come back
[16:15] <WesternMusic> 1 sec timeout is less visible
[16:16] <snfgf> Guys, I have a start job (raising network interfaces) that runs for 5m 7s before failing. What configs must I tweak to reduce this to say 30s?
[16:16] <vsd> WesternMusic: Well how can I choose the other OS then?
[16:16] <akik> vsd: try setting GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET to an empty value
[16:16] <WesternMusic> cant help you, i use only ubuntu
[16:16] <vsd> WesternMusic: So do I mostly, but it is GRUB command not Windows
[16:16] <vsd> WesternMusic: You missunderstood the question
[16:17] <WesternMusic> i use that command to reduce timeout
[16:17] <WesternMusic> if u find it useful, ok
[16:17] <vsd> WesternMusic: Reduce yes, but when the time is out the automatic choice is choosen
[16:17] <vsd> and it will boot, I want to prevent that
[16:17] <WesternMusic> vsd, i cant help you, i use only ubuntu
[16:18] <vsd> WesternMusic: I know but still GRUB command that do not apoply in Windows. You can have two OS:s so not a argument
[16:18] <vsd> Still thanks dude
[16:18] <WesternMusic> you could wait for other answers
[16:18] <vsd> will try akik, thanks both
[16:19] <al2o3-cr> vsd: change GRUB_TIMEOUT=-1
[16:19] <jwash> hi everyone, how do i choose the default "Open with:" program http://ctrlv.in/874688
[16:19] <vsd> al2o3-cr: Did it, but it was still 10 sec...
[16:19] <vsd> I also ran sudo update-grub
[16:19] <al2o3-cr> to minus 1?
[16:19] <vsd> yup
[16:19] <vsd> -1
[16:19] <vsd> Shall I try again?
[16:20] <al2o3-cr> yes
[16:20] <al2o3-cr> works here
[16:20] <ducasse> vsd: did you also do as akik suggested?
[16:20] <akik> ducasse: i tested it and it didn't work
[16:20] <vsd> ducasse: I can only try once at a time, will reply back
[16:20] <Wocer> win10?why dont u try grub4dos?
[16:20] <zykotick9> akik: thanks!  GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 worked well for me.  /me thought =0 was "wait for input" ;)
[16:21] <ducasse> vsd: i think you need to do both
[16:21] <vsd> zykotick9: YES that is what I want :D
[16:21] <akik> zykotick9: yes i read it from here: https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Simple-configuration.html
[16:21] <al2o3-cr> vsd: then sudo update-grub2
[16:21] <vsd> not update-grub?
[16:22] <al2o3-cr> yep, sorry update-grub
[16:23]  * zykotick9 notes update-grub and update-grub2 are EXACTLY the same
[16:25] <vsd> al2o3-cr
[16:25] <vsd> It was already GRUB_TIMEOUT=-1
[16:25] <vsd> in /etc/default/
[16:26] <vsd> I did sudo update-grub
[16:26] <vsd> Restarting, see ya guys
[16:29] <Wocer> im bored,do u know some funny.channels on this server ?
[16:29] <ikonia> not really what this channel is for
[16:29] <ikonia> try #freenode for how to use irc
[16:30] <Wocer> i know how to use irc ,but any channel recommend?
[16:30] <al2o3-cr> Wocer: try ##chat
[16:30] <ikonia> Wocer: if you know how to use IRC, you know how to search the channel list, and obey channel topics such as this one
[16:31] <Wocer> ill try thx
[16:32] <AJMc> My soundcard isn't working on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. Running 'pacmd' and 'list-sinks' shows that the sinks are both SUSPENDED, and lists the suspend cause as IDLE.
[16:32] <vsd> Did not work with -1
[16:32] <vsd> akik
[16:33] <AJMc> How do I go about fixing this?
[16:33] <al2o3-cr> vsd: gist your /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[16:33] <OerHeks> wrong approach, editting that cfg
[16:34] <younder> Problem is with xchat un ubuntu you get dumped in here by default. So this is the first channel you see whether you know how to use IRC or not.
[16:34] <snfgf>  /join systemd
[16:34] <vsd> al2o3-cr
[16:34] <snfgf>  /join systemd
[16:34] <al2o3-cr> OerHeks: it's a bit of hack, but it should work
[16:34] <vsd> http://pastebin.com/hJvRRtqZ
[16:34] <snfgf>  /join systemd
[16:34] <snfgf> lol
[16:35] <WesternMusic> does anyone here think we should have one tool replacing unity-tweak, ccsm and dconf-editor?
[16:35] <vsd> al2o3-cr: Note that I edited /etc/default/ to timeout = -1 and then ran sudo update-grub
[16:35] <Wocer> no,i choosed ubuntu from the channel list
[16:36] <Wocer> my first channel is #android
[16:36] <WesternMusic> is there ubuntu for devs channel?
[16:36] <ikonia> WesternMusic: what sort of thing are you looking for
[16:36] <WesternMusic> "does anyone here think we should have one tool replacing unity-tweak, ccsm and dconf-editor?"
[16:37] <fqtw> if i run a program with an env var like "FOO=1 prog" is the var assignment visible in the output of ps?
[16:37] <ikonia> WesternMusic: thats not really development
[16:37] <ikonia> WesternMusic: thats just voicing an opinion,
[16:37] <al2o3-cr> vsd: set timeout back to 0 in /etc/default then sudo update-grub. then on line 255 of your paste set timeout to -1
[16:37] <WesternMusic> ikonia, a tool created by ubuntu guys to configure ubuntu
[16:37] <Wocer> i just bored ,want to chat with someone,
[16:37] <ikonia> WesternMusic: just create it then
[16:37] <WesternMusic> ikonia, im not a developer
[16:38] <ducasse> Wocer: will you stop that, please
[16:38] <ikonia> WesternMusic: then you don't need to talk to the developers
[16:38] <al2o3-cr> vsd: but this is not permenant
[16:38] <ikonia> WesternMusic: you can submit ideas to the mailing list
[16:38] <WesternMusic> ikonia, i just want to make a suggestion, i know im not the only one who needs these tools
[16:38] <ikonia> WesternMusic: or raise a blueprint
[16:38] <vsd> al2o3-cr: will try you know how long?
[16:39] <ikonia> WesternMusic: dconf is gnome, unity-tweak is not gnome ccsm is a window manager control
[16:39] <ikonia> WesternMusic: one tool will not happen
[16:39]  * AJMc has to restart
[16:39] <al2o3-cr> vsd: until you issue update-grub again
[16:39] <WesternMusic> ikonia, but these 3 tools change the way ubuntu works
[16:39] <ducasse> vsd: what are GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET set to?
[16:39] <vsd> ducasse: Will look
[16:39] <ikonia> WesternMusic: correct
[16:40] <WesternMusic> gow do i raise a blueprint?
[16:40] <vsd> GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[16:40] <vsd> GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true
[16:40] <WesternMusic> *how
[16:40] <ikonia> WesternMusic: on launchpad.net - however what you want will not happen
[16:40] <ducasse> vsd: try setting both to empty
[16:40] <WesternMusic> ok, ill give it a try
[16:40] <ikonia> way to listen
[16:41] <vsd> meaning GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=
[16:41] <OerHeks> WesternMusic, you might not need ccsm/unity tweak in unity8 no more .. and dconf is not suitable for starters
[16:41] <vsd> ?
[16:41] <ducasse> vsd: yes
[16:41] <vsd> Okay
[16:41] <ikonia> OerHeks: it's almost as if he'd been told this multiple times and just ignored it
[16:41] <WesternMusic> OerHeks, one tool with tab based interface
[16:41] <ikonia> WesternMusic: no
[16:41] <WesternMusic> dconf is for the advanced users
[16:41] <ikonia> WesternMusic right, but it's part of gnome,
[16:41] <AJMc> Back, still can't play sound.
[16:42] <WesternMusic> ikonia, i dont talk unity, gnome, i talk ubuntu
[16:42] <AJMc> The sound plays on the login screen, but once I've logged into my account, it stops working
[16:42] <ikonia> ughhhh ubuntu is unity on gnome libraries
[16:42] <vsd> al2o3-cr: Timeout is now 0 then did sudo update-grub
[16:42] <vsd> on line 255 it is =-1
[16:42] <vsd> ducasse
[16:42] <ikonia> WesternMusic: it seems reasonably important to have a basic understanding of the platform if you're going to raise feature requests for it
[16:42] <al2o3-cr> vsd: reboot :)
[16:42] <OerHeks> advanced users will find dconf easily, it is a choise by design not to include such tool.
[16:42] <AJMc> Aaaaaaand now it is working.
[16:43] <WesternMusic> ikonia, all i know is that every time i install ubuntu i need these three tools
[16:43] <vsd> GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=
[16:43] <vsd> GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=
[16:43] <al2o3-cr> vsd: of you /boot/grub/grub.cfg yes?
[16:43] <ikonia> WesternMusic: then use them, they are there for you to use
[16:43] <WesternMusic> ok, ikonia
[16:43] <vsd> al2o3-cr: /boot/grub/ yup
[16:43] <vsd> Will reboot
[16:43] <vsd> and come back
[16:43] <Wocer> well ,i cant communicate with u,sorry ,bye
[16:51] <vsd> al2o3-cr
[16:51] <vsd> other dude I forgot ya name
[16:51] <vsd> Worked FINE :D THANKS EVERYBODY
[16:51] <vsd> #ONEPROBLEMATATIMELINUX
[16:51] <al2o3-cr> np :)
[16:52] <OerHeks> vsd, have fun
[16:53] <vsd> other problem all due
[16:53] <vsd> everything is upgraded and updated and nothing is installed beside VLC / Flash plugin and nothing removed. But Plasma keep crashing
[16:53] <vsd> I use LTS 16.0.1
[16:53] <Guest72159> Hey folks, does anyone have experiance with getting an old ati 9600 (agp) card running?
[16:54] <ducasse> vsd: i think that is a quite common problem, but ask the guys in #kubuntu
[16:55] <vsd> ducasse: Will do, I used KDE for 4 years ago and it keept crashing but the GUI is so fine...still having problem
[16:55] <vsd> Will do thanks ducasse for GRUB help, that's your name ;)
[16:55] <ducasse> vsd: :)
[16:57] <ducasse> vsd: i *think* a lot of the kubuntu people use a ppa provided by kubuntu devs for 16.04, but i'm not sure on the details - check with them.
[16:57] <guva> buonasera a tutti
[16:57] <guva> come la va?
[16:57] <vsd> ducasse: But I am using normal sources and LTS also... will all due
[16:58] <vsd> defualt in the sense off "normal"
[16:58] <ducasse> vsd: all i know is that several kubuntu people tell me they use a ppa for 16.04 because the default packages kept crashing
[16:59] <vsd> ducasse: AHHHh
[16:59] <vsd> That seems more logicial then :P thanks
[17:09] <Michiii> hello?
[17:11] <mikubuntu> so i went and bought a stick big enough to store my files so that i can hopefully do a successful fresh install on this box (running live sess here) and i get this on trying to copy my 'mikubuntu' file -- http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23403268/
[17:11] <mikubuntu> think i'm gonna cry .. lol
[17:11] <mikubuntu> can't seem to accomplish the simplest task
[17:12] <linocisco> hi , sent mails in Thunderbird are appeared only left half the area and fonts are small
[17:13] <ducasse> mikubuntu: copy with sudo.
[17:14] <mikubuntu> ducasse can i sudo the gui pcmanfm and drag and drop?
[17:15] <ducasse> mikubuntu: is this on a live session?
[17:15] <mikubuntu> ducasse: yes on live sess
[17:15] <ducasse> mikubuntu: then that should be fine.
[17:17] <mikubuntu> ducasse: it's a strange thing -- as i review what the stick downloaded it would appear that it has most of the files, but properties doesn't seem to reflect a correct folder size
[17:18] <ducasse> mikubuntu: it might be calculated differently, or one program shows MB and the other MiB.
[17:18] <al_nz1> what a good snmp monitoring program for Ubuntu?
[17:19] <mikubuntu> ducasse: whats the diff in MB in MiB
[17:19] <ducasse> mikubuntu: * 1000 vs * 1024
[17:19] <DFarmerTX> 1024 Bytes in 1 MiB
[17:20] <DFarmerTX> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte
[17:20] <ducasse> 1024 _kilo_bytes
[17:20] <DFarmerTX> Yep, sorry
[17:21] <mikubuntu> ducasse: i'm going to take the chance that it saved *most* of what i wanted to save and try to do a fresh install on this box -- so worried i'm gonna get black screen again. apparently what broke this sys wasn't nomodeset as i tried the grub fix for that and still got black screen what would the next diagnostic check be?
[17:22] <mikubuntu> ducasse: also should i be doing the install in UEFI mode (is that 'legacy'?)
[17:22] <ducasse> mikubuntu: not sure, tbh. try the other options in the 'expert' menu at the bottom early in the boot.
[17:23] <ducasse> mikubuntu: personally i prefer uefi over legacy, but it depends on your specific firmware.
[17:24] <mikubuntu> ducasse: ok, so i thought UEFI was legacy .. lol -- i don't know WTH i have
[17:25] <ducasse> mikubuntu: does your bios have settings for secure boot?
[17:26] <mikubuntu> ducasse: i'm not sure anymore what it has, my brain is fried on it. its an hp laptop, what is your recommended setting if it did have 'secure boot'
[17:26] <feathers_mcgraw> what is the correct way to start a user space driver at boot time?
[17:27] <ducasse> mikubuntu: if it has them, you have uefi. i would turn secure boot off.
[17:28] <mikubuntu> ducasse: ok, if i can find it i'll turn it off .. lol - i guess that's in the boot options section of bios?
[17:28] <Skyrider> Greetings all.. Is there any ubuntu version I can use on my pi2?
[17:29] <ducasse> mikubuntu: normally, or under 'security'.
[17:29] <mikubuntu> ducasse: ok thx -- signing off
[17:32] <Skyrider> anyone?
[17:32] <al2o3-cr> Skyrider: https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/
[17:32] <Skyrider> Ya..
[17:32] <Skyrider> Thats faulty
[17:33] <Skyrider> its larger than 8GB, regardless what the guide says.
[17:33] <al2o3-cr> larger then 8gb ...
[17:33] <al2o3-cr> *than
[17:33] <Skyrider> ?
[17:34] <saintpetejackboy> hola
[17:34] <ducasse> Skyrider: i think there is an lubuntu image also
[17:35] <saintpetejackboy> I have a rather simple problem but I am trying to solve it with the command line only (through ssh, yes I have sudo)
[17:35] <Skyrider> Ubuntu Mate for the pi is 8.053.063.680 in size.
[17:35] <Skyrider> So ya.. does not fit on the SD card.
[17:35] <saintpetejackboy> I'm on 16.04
[17:35] <saintpetejackboy> How an I make Ubuntu grab the same ip from the local router every time? It keeps jumping between 192.168.0.4 and 192.168.0.5 which is becoming a pain in the ass with my virtual servers to forward the ports properly every time
[17:35] <saintpetejackboy> Any advice?
[17:36] <saintpetejackboy> Or is this something the DHCP and router handles, that maybe I can configure with the router?
[17:36] <younder> saintpetejackboy, You need to reserver the address on your DHCP server (the router)
[17:36] <ducasse> saintpetejackboy: set up a static lease on the router
[17:37] <saintpetejackboy> ah okay, I figured it would involve this ;D
[17:37] <saintpetejackboy> Thanks lol I know what to do from here :)
[17:37] <saintpetejackboy> <3
[17:38] <saintpetejackboy> I'll lurk though, maybe I can help another :)
[17:38] <erpo_> I have a .deb file in my home directory that is not from the repository, but it depends on many packages inside the repository. I want to install all of its dependencies *without* installing the .deb itself. How can I do that?
[17:41] <OerHeks> erpo_, find /path/to/package.deb -exec dpkg -f {} Depends \;
[17:41] <OerHeks> or do a dry run, dpkg --dry-run -i *.deb
[17:43] <limbu> Hello
[17:44] <erpo_> Thanks, OerHeks. :)
[17:45] <limbu> why is noone talking ?
[17:46] <OerHeks> there is no actual ubuntu support issue going on
[17:46] <OerHeks> or it is sunday
[17:47] <limbu> oh so this channel is for issues only ?
[17:48] <DJones> limbu: Yes it is, if you have an ubuntu issue,  you're welcome to ask it here, if its just general chat, please use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for that
[17:49] <limbu> alright DJones, thank you
[17:51] <audia5> so guys what do you think of this qoute "fall seven times, stand up eight"
[17:52] <Frankenstein> audia5, wrong channel?
[17:52] <OerHeks> audia5, this is no polling channel, you will find answer in the other channel you crosspost
[17:52] <younder> audia5, sound like a snandard linux install
[17:54] <Darkhunter> Hi guys, I use ubuntu 14.04 and yesterday I updated packages. Now it tells me Error parsing PCC subspaces form PCCT and black screen shown after loading...
[17:54] <ducasse> Darkhunter: can you try previous kernel?
[17:55] <Darkhunter> ducasse: Sure
[17:56] <Darkhunter> ducasse: Also xserver is not working...Xorg.conf has nvidia inside, but my laptop has ati drivers...
[17:56] <OerHeks> Darkhunter, dual boot? Usually happens on Linux-Windows dual boot. Disable hiberboot (fast startup) in Windows.
[17:56] <al_nz1> what the heck is install.pl?
[17:56] <ikonia> a perl script
[17:57] <Frankenstein> that installs things
[17:57] <al_nz1> ikonia: oh ok - to install a plugin in Nagios, it says the easy way to do it is with install.pl
[17:57] <al_nz1> which is command not found
[17:57] <ikonia> becuse it's a perl script normally supplied with the package/plugin
[17:58] <OerHeks> perl --version
[17:58] <Darkhunter> ducasse: It's the same
[17:58] <Darkhunter> OerHeks: Yes, but with windows 7, that has no hiberboot
[17:58] <al_nz1> yeah perl is installed
[17:59] <OerHeks> perl <script>.pl
[18:00] <al_nz1> seems to be working
[18:02] <Darkhunter> Please help me with that...I have to do my work today, but my ubuntu is not usable...
[18:02] <Frankenstein> Darkhunter, as in, company work, or like home work?
[18:02] <OerHeks> Darkhunter, explain: .Xorg.conf has nvidia inside, but my laptop has ati drivers...
[18:03] <Darkhunter> Frankenstein: Like my project...Where I am making some money
[18:03] <Darkhunter> OerHeks: After upgrade there is in Screen 0 "nvidia" I think there should be ati when I have ati gpu?
[18:04] <coreuser> Hi.. I have a Mac MacOS and a PC with Ubuntu. I would like to use the Monitor connected to the Ubuntu PC as a video reciver for the Mac with MacOS. So.. I would like to cast just video from the Mac laptop to the Ubuntu PC but the audio would keep playing on the Mac. How can I do this? I only want to cast video from Netflix and Youtube.
[18:05] <ducasse> coreuser: stream it with vlc?
[18:05] <neldogz> Anyone experiencing a problem with gnome-disks when you try to format a partition? Keeps on crashing for me no matter what kind of device I try to format.. It could be USB, RAID, normal disk etc.
[18:07] <coreuser> ducasse: how would I stream youtube or netflix ?
[18:08] <coreuser> is there a way to use Chromecast?
[18:08] <coreuser> can I turn a Ubuntu PC into a chromecast reciever window?
[18:08] <tommi> Yo guys how do i edit grub bootloader to boot into terminal only
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> coreuser  if you don't get an answer here, there's also #ubuntustudio, multimedia dedicated
[18:14] <ducasse> tommi: which ubuntu version?
[18:16] <OerHeks> sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target # systemd points to tty  / sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target  # reset back to lightdm GUI
[18:22] <vsd> Sup guys. I have my drive encrypted. I launch up GRUB -> Ubuntu and it asks for password but the screen is frozen and I cannot do anything
[18:24] <mikubuntu> god i'm so sick of this i can't even do a clean install https://goo.gl/photos/4cHRarhkyY9Nd7YG6 and https://goo.gl/photos/EUXVXSg7nZ68FZg16
[18:25] <vsd> mikubuntu: Expalin my life with Linux
[18:27] <OerHeks> encrypted swap is unusefull with hybernate/sleep. that warning is just a warning.
[18:28] <vsd> ducasse: My savior
[18:28] <vsd> Even you...even you? I want to screw this dist and Linux
[18:29] <ducasse> no, it's saying you are trying to set up an encrypted install with unencrypted swap - not a good idea.
[18:29] <cuddylier> I'm trying to do 'grub-install /dev/sdb' but getting: grub-install: error: disk `mduuid/ff5a16bf363d9764cc3ff4e6b572f92f' not found.
[18:29] <cuddylier> I have a software raid array but one of the drives has failed in it but that's /dev/sda
[18:29] <vsd> I dont have a warning info, it justs freeze
[18:30] <ducasse> vsd: that second link you posted might be why
[18:31] <vsd> ducasse: I did not post a second link :D
[18:31] <vsd> ducasse: Sup guys. I have my drive encrypted. I launch up GRUB -> Ubuntu and it asks for password but the screen is frozen and I cannot do anything
[18:31] <ducasse> vsd: sorry, my mistake
[18:31] <vsd> I am atm in recovery mode and it's works fine
[18:31] <ducasse> mikubuntu: it's saying you are trying to set up an encrypted install with unencrypted swap - not a good idea.
[18:31] <vsd> I installed Nvidia drivers which a dude told me to do through #Kubuntu and put nomodeset in GRUB
[18:31] <Bashing-om> cuddylier: ' sudo blkid -c /dev/null -o list ' show the offending UUID ? .. and then find out the origin of that UUID .
[18:32] <cuddylier> Bashing-om: That shows this: http://pastebin.com/raw/n16fPFVz
[18:32] <mikubuntu> ducasse: i was going to set up encrypted but it wouldn't let me
[18:32] <cuddylier> The ID it says it can't find shows as in-use of course though
[18:33] <mikubuntu> ducasse: i'm fine with unencrypted but it wouldnt install either -- i checked and secure boot was disabled
[18:34] <mikubuntu> ducasse: supposedly sent report to devs i dunno
[18:35] <ducasse> mikubuntu: with unencrypted swap you lose much of the benefit of encrypted install
[18:35] <mikubuntu> ducasse: so how to proceed?
[18:36] <mikubuntu> ducasse: do you recommend encrypted?
[18:36] <ducasse> mikubuntu: is this a laptop?
[18:36] <mikubuntu> ducasse: yes hp laptop
[18:37] <mikubuntu> ducasse: not generally a traveling laptop though, just use in home
[18:37] <ducasse> mikubuntu: just encrypted home is much easier to set up, and gives you protection for your personal files. if you just use it at home i would not bother with encryption at all.
[18:38] <mikubuntu> ducasse: so i should just try the install again sans encryption
[18:38] <ducasse> mikubuntu: yup.
[18:38] <mikubuntu> ducasse: ok, signing off ... lol
[18:40] <Bashing-om> cuddylier: Yeah ,, is odd .. as the UUID is identified .. What have we for the mounting directive ' cat /etc/fstab ' ?
[18:41] <cuddylier> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/raw/q7vXTnHN
[18:43] <al_nz1> anyone here using nagios
[18:44] <OerHeks> al_nz1, i think more luck in #ubuntu-server for that monitor tool
[18:44] <al_nz1> brilliant
[18:44] <al_nz1> thanks
[18:44] <OerHeks> yw
[18:45] <Bashing-om> cuddylier: Well .. will take someone with the greater knowledge here , as I had expected to also see the raid arrays defined in /etc/fstab. As we do not, others will have to advise on how the raid arrays are set up .
[18:46] <cuddylier> yeah, I think the arrays on this system weren't set up very well as I'm struggling to find the /boot partition.
[18:48] <Bashing-om> cuddylier: Sorry, been ages since I set up a raid array . My memory maybe just to hazy here .
[18:52] <Bashing-om> cuddylier: Still looking at this, near as I can tell it is required to have the raid array defined in /etc/fstab . I am at : http://askubuntu.com/questions/417286/how-can-i-mount-software-raid-drive-mdx-with-fstab .
[18:54] <Mordessin> Hj
[18:54] <Bashing-om> cuddylier: Yup ! http://www.linuceum.com/Server/srvRAIDAuto.php .
[18:55] <cuddylier> hmm none of my software raid 1 systems seem to have it defined in /etc/fstab
[18:58] <Bashing-om> cuddylier: Well .. have to be defined ( and mounted) somewhere . /etc/fstab to my knowledge is the proper place, no ?
[18:59] <yeats> cuddylier: the /dev/mdXXX devices in /etc/fstab are the software raid arrays
[18:59] <yeats> cuddylier: mdadm will help with that too
[18:59] <cuddylier> yeah, so that is the cause of my 'not found' issue atm?
[18:59] <cuddylier> For grub
[19:00] <yeats> cuddylier: it's advisable to have a separate /boot partition on a non-LVM/mdraid device so grub can find it
[19:01] <cuddylier> yeats: Yeah, I think that's my issue, I'm not sure how /boot was configured on this system, if at all.
[19:02] <Bashing-om> cuddylier: One of the main files that grub parses is /boot/grub/grub.cfg . Might have a read there and see what is being called up .
[19:03] <cuddylier> Bashing-om: Where should I look in it? It has a lot of lines.
[19:04] <Bashing-om> cuddylier: yeats In my hazy memory .. should not the /boot partition be outside the raid array in most levels of raid ?
[19:04] <cuddylier> Yes, I believe it should be
[19:04] <ducasse> cuddylier: grub can handle mdadm arrays, i'm pretty sure.
[19:05] <cuddylier> ah
[19:05] <cuddylier> I wonder what it's problem with this array is then hmm
[19:06] <Bashing-om> cuddylier: The part here of interest is within " ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ### " .
[19:06] <cuddylier> I tried 'grub-install /dev/md0' but it just said http://pastebin.com/raw/QWSQjgXF
[19:07] <cuddylier> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/raw/yt2qFZDk is the first part in that
[19:08] <ducasse> cuddylier: can you pastebin output of 'ls -l /dev/mapper/' ?
[19:08] <cuddylier> ducasse: crw------- 1 root root 10, 236 May  7 14:29 control
[19:09] <ducasse> cuddylier: /proc/mdstat?
[19:10] <cuddylier> ducasse: http://pastebin.com/raw/dC0xF63T
[19:11] <ducasse> cuddylier: ok, it's degraded (as you said sda is broken?)
[19:11] <cuddylier> yep
[19:11] <Bashing-om> ducasse: cuddylier Hummmm in the grub.cfg file .. does not make sense to have /root assigned to 2 different UUIDs .. now does it ?
[19:11] <cuddylier> Nope, no idea why it is
[19:12] <ducasse> two different md devices, is my guess.
[19:12] <cuddylier> I have md0 and md1
[19:12] <cuddylier> md1 is swap
[19:12] <cuddylier> and md0 is /
[19:12] <Beng_Beng>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Beng_Beng hxfhdxvgtexv
[19:12] <Beng_Beng> ups
[19:12] <Beng_Beng> ;p
[19:12] <ducasse> cuddylier: no, two different disks in the mirror, grub might reflect that
[19:12] <cuddylier> ah
[19:13] <bray90820_> What langues would i need to know to port ubuntu touch to my device
[19:13] <ducasse> cuddylier: but i suggest you try #ubuntu-server, my mdadm knowledge is so rusty i don't want to make things worse
[19:13] <cuddylier> Ah okay, thanks
[19:16] <ducasse> cuddylier: you could just try replacing the dead disk and rebuild
[19:16] <debkad> the kernel keep checking the floppy controllers ( floppy completly already disabled from BIOS + search --no-floppy from grub already their )
[19:21] <Bashing-om> debkad: In my Bios -as I also do not have a floppy drive -  I have set 3 options to disable "floppy seek " .
[19:22] <debkad> Bashing-om: 3 options from kernel?
[19:22] <Bashing-om> debkad: No, in the bios setup .
[19:22] <debkad> oh
[19:23] <debkad> i have only one option to choose differents floppy or none to disable
[19:23] <Bashing-om> debkad: You do not want Bios passing that erronious info back to the kernel .
[19:24] <debkad> Bashing-om: at boot it take about 13 second just hanging on that message about floppy which is very annoying
[19:24] <ioria> debkad, the module is still loaded ?
[19:25] <ioria> debkad, floppy, i mean
[19:25] <debkad> ioria: no it is not, i just want the kernel to not take a look at it as it take 13 seconds
[19:25] <OerHeks> debkad, that happened to me too, once. i had floppy as 4th item for boot device, even the controller was disabled
[19:25] <Bashing-om> debkad: I can only relate to my ' Phoenix ' Bios . Yours will be different .
[19:25] <ioria> debkad, check lsmod  otherwise you may need to blacklist it
[19:26] <ioria> debkad, check also fstab
[19:26] <debkad> ioria: already checked, there is no module called floppy or similar
[19:26] <OerHeks> i assume that message does not come from the kernel.
[19:27] <ioria> debkad, so a bios issue, not kernel issue ?
[19:27] <ioria> debkad, your motherboard ?
[19:27] <debkad> ioria: bios already have floppy and let me disable it completly
[19:27] <debkad> ms7529
[19:28] <ioria> debkad,  the exact message ?
[19:28] <energizer> i have 3 monitors, just upgraded 16.04 -> 16.10, now one of the monitors is on with black screen. What can I do?
[19:28] <ootani> good morning
[19:28] <Bashing-om> debkad: checked your boot order devices also  in bios setup ?
[19:28] <debkad> ioria: floppy0: no floppy controllers found
[19:29] <debkad> Bashing-om: yes, there is only hdds (3 ) and ability to choose usb
[19:30] <kb90_> hi
[19:32] <Bashing-om> debkad: Well .. my take, must be a setting in Bios - else the kernel would not be aware .
[19:33] <debkad> ok thanks
[19:41] <Skyrider> Can someone tell me what "assuming drive cache" means?
[19:41] <Skyrider> Its kinda stuck at that message.
[19:48] <andreborda> hey, where could I get some help with ddrescue?
[19:50] <reisio> here possibly
[19:51] <andreborda> ok, I thought there would be a help channel or something similar
[19:51] <andreborda> I'm pretty new to this and have gone down the rabbit hole
[19:54] <J_Ripper> Hi all, I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 on a VServer. Is there a way to create a whitelist by country? As in: Allow only Traffic from Germany and the US, drop all other traffic?
[19:54] <J_Ripper> I found only solutions on how to create a blacklist
[19:56] <ioria> debkad, maybe comment  # alias block-major-2   but in recent ubuntu versions  idk in which file...   can you paste modinfo floppy ?
[19:57] <debkad> ioria: thanks, i was on ##kernel channel, they tell me it is something may be about my BIOS, now i enabled the floppy from BIOS and that message disapear, i'm now trying to see what cause 12 second to mount the swap partition
[19:59] <andreborda> I'm trying to clone an acidentaly formated drive with ddrescue. First time ever doing this. My command is giving me "Can't open input file: Permission denied". the command was "~$ ddrescue -f /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc /home/andre/Desktop/logl.log"
[19:59] <ioria> debkad, ok, anyway http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/blade-server-disable-floppy-driver-module.html
[19:59] <andreborda> sda1 is the partition, I have tried with sda and got the same result
[20:02] <hamsterpower> does anyone know how to make gcc compile with -std=c++11 by default? and if this is safe to do so?
[20:02] <EriC^^> andreborda: you need sudo'
[20:02] <EriC^^> andreborda: what do you mean by formatted?
[20:03] <andreborda> damn, I though the dollar mark stood for sudo?
[20:03] <EriC^^> no, # does
[20:03] <EriC^^> andreborda: that copies the partition btw not the whole drive
[20:03] <debkad> ioria: haha that old link from 2007 it use /etc/modprobe.d/aliases now they use something like blacklist... i believe
[20:03] <joe_w> hi, got an issue with wifi on my lenovo g505, ethernets up but not wifi, is working on dongle not on interal wifi can you help
[20:04] <andreborda> I chose the wrong drive when installing the windows 10 USB install tool... smh
[20:04] <andreborda> ok Eric^^, I'll try that with sda and sudo
[20:05] <ioria> debkad, if you run  modinfo floppy | grep alias you should see  " block-major-2-*" as first entry
[20:05] <andreborda> EriC^^: Thanks, that fixed it, running now!
[20:06] <debkad> ioria: yes it is, but that only when i enabled it from bios, if not there were no module called floppy
[20:06] <EriC^^> andreborda: upload a paste of sudo parted -l maybe it's not that bad
[20:06] <ioria> debkad, sure
[20:07] <andreborda> aaaaand btw, source is 2TB and destination 1TB, but source was less than 1TB full. Should fit, no?
[20:07] <EriC^^> no
[20:07] <andreborda> mother...
[20:07] <EriC^^> andreborda: it copies everything even the empty space
[20:07] <debkad> ioria: as it is solved ( inversly ) i want now to fix the timing for swap
[20:07] <anom> hai, don't suppose anyone could help me out with this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/843616/connecting-laptop-to-external-monitor-with-displayport-returns-power-saving-mess :P
[20:08] <ioria> debkad, the uuid is correct ? for wsap , i mean
[20:08] <ioria> *swap
[20:08] <debkad> ioria: i will keep in mind the blacklist methode thanks for the tip
[20:08] <andreborda> EriC^^:can it still get something untill it is full?
[20:08] <debkad> ioria: yes
[20:08] <joe_w> any help getting my wifi working on my laptop 16.04
[20:08] <reisio> joe_w: sure
[20:08] <reisio> what device?
[20:08] <ioria> debkad,  encryption in use ?
[20:08] <joe_w> lenovo g505
[20:08] <debkad> ioria: i can see it with 'free' command, the only problem it take 12 seconds to mount it
[20:09] <reisio> joe_w: try sudo lspci | grep -i net
[20:09] <debkad> ioria: no encryption
[20:09] <EriC^^> andreborda: it depends on a lot of stuff
[20:09] <andreborda> and I could upload, but really, I'm way over my head, not sure how to do that. Unless it is literally sudo parted -l(that an L?)
[20:09] <EriC^^> andreborda: upload a paste and explain more what you had
[20:09] <EriC^^> yes it's an L
[20:09] <EriC^^> !paste
[20:10] <ioria> debkad,  paste fstab , if you wish
[20:10] <debkad> ok
[20:10] <andreborda> Eric^^: no problem doing it while ddrescue is running?
[20:10] <EriC^^> yeah it's ok
[20:10] <joe_w> reisio, its there broadcom bcm43142
[20:10] <debkad> ioria: http://sprunge.us/SeYi
[20:12] <reisio> joe_w: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx search for '43142'
[20:12] <joe_w> ok
[20:13] <VSSDD> One two diffrent dist's I have this problem. I have NVIDIA GTX 970 and after installing drivers my screen is frozen upon rebooting, when I need to enter my password it is all froozen
[20:13] <ioria> debkad,  lsblk
[20:13] <andreborda> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23404039/
[20:13] <VSSDD> I tried Kubuntu N Mint
[20:13] <VSSDD> Same problem
[20:13] <andreborda> the affected drive is the 2TB WDC WD20EARX-00P
[20:14] <debkad> ioria: http://sprunge.us/LUZS
[20:14] <EriC^^> andreborda: so what did you have before that?
[20:14] <DylanHamer> Hello
[20:15] <reisio> hi
[20:15] <VSSDD> One two diffrent dist's I have this problem. I have NVIDIA GTX 970 and after installing drivers my screen is frozen upon rebooting, when I need to enter my password it is all froozen
[20:15] <DylanHamer> Just fixed my laptop and installed Ubuntu
[20:15] <VSSDD> On'
[20:15] <andreborda> eric: not sure what to answer. it was my freaking backup drive, where I had just copied all my documents, pictures and videos to
[20:16] <EriC^^> andreborda: ok, type sudo apt-get install testdisk
[20:16] <andreborda> most ridiculous mistake ever, chose drive E instead of U
[20:16] <reisio> DylanHamer: gj
[20:16] <EriC^^> andreborda: windows made a new partition there, and it's only about 34gb
[20:16] <joe_w> hi, just crashed my phone, what was the url again??
[20:17] <EriC^^> andreborda: since its a backup drive then there was probably 1 partition that was 2tb
[20:17] <andreborda> yeah, I was using this guide: https://www.data-medics.com/forum/how-to-clone-a-hard-drive-with-bad-sectors-using-ddrescue-t133.html
[20:17] <ioria> debkad,  on sda , 1 primary and the other logicals  ? or all primaries ?
[20:17] <reisio> VSSDD: nomodeset
[20:18] <VSSDD> reisio
[20:18] <ledeni> joe_w, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[20:18] <VSSDD> Will try I had not GRUB installed
[20:19] <andreborda> EriC^^: I have hwinfo installed
[20:19] <debkad> ioria: the two partitions are primary
[20:20] <ioria> debkad,  there are 4  : sda1 2 3 5
[20:20] <debkad> ioria: the 3 is extended have inside it 5
[20:20] <debkad> 5 is logical
[20:21] <ioria> debkad,  so 3 partitions : 1 root, 2 swap, 3-5 logical ?
[20:21] <andreborda> EriC^^: "Setting up testdisk (7.0-1) ... " , I guess not done yet?
[20:21] <RadenBlazed> guys im trying to set up a vertual host on apache and its not working. I decided to just disable all the sites-enabled, and even tho they have none enabled it is still showing my website :( im so confused
[20:22] <EriC^^> andreborda: yeah, type sudo testdisk
[20:22] <ioria> debkad,  gparted will give you a clear vision
[20:23] <debkad> ioria: yes, i can screenshot if you want
[20:23] <ioria> yep
[20:23] <debkad> ioria: http://i.imgur.com/kiVTTlc.png
[20:24] <andreborda> EriC^^: I'm guessing analyse first?
[20:24] <ioria> debkad,  so swap is a primary partition ...
[20:24] <EriC^^> andreborda: yeah
[20:24] <debkad> yes
[20:25] <DylanHamer> join lgbt
[20:25] <ioria> debkad,  it's a custom setup, usually swap is put in extended
[20:25] <joe_w> lendeni, looked having difficulty understanding..is there a terminal comand i can rin for the bcm43142 wifi card to install?
[20:26] <ioria> debkad,  but idt it's an issue
[20:26] <RadenBlazed> :(
[20:26] <coppz> Hi all. Am looking for some help regarding cloud storage. What I am trying to do is set up my second laptop that runs Ubuntu 16.04 Unity. What I want to do is access all the files on it from any other device such as other laptops, my work laptop, phone, etc. Anyone know anything about setting this up? I know about Drive and Dropbox and stuff but I want to hold them locally, dont want to give corps access of files, and also this way
[20:26] <coppz> I dont need to pay for extra storage. I will be setting up a nas in the next few months but looking for something temp. Thanks!
[20:27] <ioria> debkad,  if you are on ubuntu 16.04 or 10 you can run systemd-analyze blame and find other infos
[20:27] <OerHeks> cloudstorage .. cops .. no pay...
[20:27] <th0r> coppz, I do that with samba
[20:28] <debkad> ioria: i'm on 14.04
[20:28] <SchrodingersScat> coppz: have you heard about nextcloud?
[20:28] <coppz> @th0r Samba? hm, never heard of it I shall take a look! and no I never heard of nextcloud @2schrod
[20:28] <ioria> debkad,  dmesg | grep swap
[20:29] <EriC^^> andreborda: dont use testdisk by yourself, it's pretty powerful
[20:29] <EriC^^> report back what you see or screenshot
[20:29] <debkad> ioria: http://sprunge.us/DKSQ
[20:29] <th0r> coppz, all my computers run samba in the background. Total Commander for android
[20:30] <SchrodingersScat> coppz: https://nextcloud.com/ it's one option, a DIY 'cloud' but not really.
[20:30] <andreborda> EriC^^: yeah, i'm just doing that, but it's gonna take a while. Any pointers for when it is done? I'm guessing it'll take at elast a couple hours
[20:30] <ioria> debkad,  looks ok
[20:30] <coppz> will take a look at both guys thanks a million!
[20:30] <EriC^^> andreborda: no, it should be very quick
[20:30] <EriC^^> andreborda: run a quick search for about 20secs
[20:31] <EriC^^> then press enter and take a screenshot
[20:31] <debkad> ioria: it take 12 scond between mounting the / and swap http://sprunge.us/hVaB
[20:33] <ioria> debkad,  are you using unity with 2G ram ?
[20:33] <debkad> ioria: i'm using xfce i have only 1G ram
[20:34] <ioria> debkad,  right...
[20:34] <coppz> SchrodingersScat how do I install nextcloud?
[20:34] <coppz> https://github.com/nextcloud/client_theming
[20:35] <debkad> ioria: i guess it is something about hardware?
[20:35] <coppz> git submodule update --init --recursive         I ran this like it says and I got back coppz@Coppz-9530:~$ git submodule update --init --recursive
[20:35] <coppz> fatal: Not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git
[20:35] <ioria> debkad,  really idk, 1) add some ram, ( :þ)  2) move swap to extended
[20:35] <ikonia> coppz: so whats the problem ?
[20:36] <debkad> :(
[20:36] <SchrodingersScat> coppz: not supported here really, https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/10/admin_manual/installation/index.html
[20:36] <OerHeks> 2 ways, snap or manually > https://www.linux.com/learn/how-install-nextcloud-server-ubuntu%20%20
[20:36] <jose__> algun español?
[20:37] <ledeni> joe_w, yes
[20:37] <SchrodingersScat> what's a snap?
[20:37] <jose__> saludos joe_w
[20:37] <ioria> debkad,  usually swap is the last partition
[20:37] <OerHeks> SchrodingersScat, ubuntu has no factoid, but it is the new package managment https://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/snappy
[20:38] <OerHeks> !snap
[20:38] <debkad> ioria: yeah but i have no unallocated space to move/shring
[20:39] <OerHeks> snap or flatpack, 2 main streams
[20:39] <debkad> i think i must remove the swap then it let me create one inside the extended partition
[20:41] <ioria> debkad,  you can shrink sda5 ?
[20:42] <ledeni> joe_w, sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get --reinstall install bcmwl-kernel-source
[20:42] <debkad> ioria: i have some progress, i removed the swap, and shrink the extended, i recreated the swap, no i have to change the fstab or just replace the UUID inside gparted i think
[20:43] <ioria> debkad,  run sudo blkid and edit fstab for swap
[20:44] <debkad> yeah i know that, just this must be done to Antergos too
[20:48] <ioria> debkad,  don't know about Antergos, but you may need to reallocate sda2
[20:49] <debkad> ioria: may be it is not necessary as i set grub from ubuntu , as i can boot it from the grub menu i believe
[20:49] <debkad> time to try :))
[20:49] <debkad> thanks ioria
[20:49] <ioria> debkad,  ok, n
[20:54] <debkad> ioria: still same timing o_o
[20:54] <hhee> guys, there is no seamonkey browser in ubuntu?
[20:55] <ioria> debkad,  oh.... may i suggest a ram upgrade ? :-)
[20:55] <debkad> lol
[20:55] <debkad> ioria: i can't find one :/
[20:55] <EriC^^> andreborda: run a quick search for about 20secs
[20:55] <ioria> debkad, really ?
[20:55] <debkad> yeah
[20:56] <EriC^^> andreborda: take a screenshot of what you see
[20:56] <debkad> as it is old
[20:56] <vsssd> Sup guys. I Have two OS:s and using encryption LUKS. I am using Nvidia drivers but I get a froozen screen when I need to enter my password. I already tried nomodeset, does not work
[20:56] <ioria> debkad, no other ideas, sorry
[20:57] <debkad> ioria: i apretiate your time and help :)
[20:57] <vsssd> also tried nvidia nomode 0 and grub gfxmode 1280x1024x24
[20:57] <vsssd> I tried so far 3 diffrent dist and nothing working...
[20:57] <ioria> debkad, no problem, hope you solve
[20:57] <bittin> wtf someone throwed away a fully working Linux laptop in my apartment so i took it :)
[20:59] <AndChat504> Similar situation to vsssd, except getting CPU soft lockups when trying to shutdown
[21:00] <vsssd> Andchat504: I tried getting working with nomodeset and grub_gfxmode but it does not work, after it it get\s black :(
[21:01] <vsssd> I been off and from here about 6 hours configuring Linux
[21:01] <vsssd> I am getting fucking depressed off this shit
[21:02] <AndChat504> You also running Intel/Nvidia dual setup? I still haven't found a configuration that allows me to boot/shutdown or suspend/resume correctly
[21:02] <vsssd> yup Nvidia GTX 970
[21:02] <AndChat504> Having to force shutdown my laptop every day is quite saddening
[21:07] <zhar> Hi, how can I use xrandr to change the physical size of a monitor?
[21:08] <bekks> zhar: you cannot change the physical size with software.
[21:08] <bekks> zhar: you can only change the resolution displayed.
[21:08] <vsssd> Sup guys. I Have two OS:s and using encryption LUKS. I am using Nvidia drivers but I get a froozen screen when I need to enter my password. I already tried nomodeset, does not work
[21:08] <vsssd> also tried nvidia nomode 0 and grub gfxmode 1280x1024x24
[21:08] <zhar> bekks, what if the EDID information is wrong?
[21:09] <bekks> zhar: then still nothing but another display will change the size of your display.
[21:09] <bekks> zhar: you can only change the resolution using xrandnr.
[21:09] <bekks> xrandr even.
[21:09] <zhar> bekks, what can I use to change the detected screen size?
[21:10] <vsssd> andchat504
[21:10] <vsssd> https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/941096/linux/ubuntu-16-nvidia-36x-drivers-black-screen/2
[21:10] <vsssd> We got nothing to lose
[21:10] <vsssd> Gonna try it
[21:11] <bekks> zhar: As I said, xrandr.
[21:12] <zhar> bekks, the resolution is right but the screen look blurry, it is a 23" screen but system settings->displays says it is 7". It is connected with HDMI, if I use DVi it works correctly
[21:12] <bekks> zhar: So use DVI :)
[21:12] <zhar> bekks, dual screen. I have 1 DVI and 1 HDMI. :(
[21:14] <Keydns> anyone willing to get on the phone with me and teach me some shell script
[21:14] <ah_1991> hi new to ubantu just testing
[21:14] <Keydns> anyone willing to get on the phone with me and teach me some shell script
[21:15] <matti> :)
[21:17] <Bashing-om> !manual | ah_1991 Are you aware ? :
[21:17] <AndChat504> vsssd, let me know how that works, I've reinstalled Ubuntu at least 4 times this weekend
[21:18] <blitzcreep> \o
[21:19] <blitzcreep> is there an "official" folder where to put programs that are manually installed / extracted?
[21:20] <blitzcreep> like "programs" in that other mainstram OS?
[21:20] <ObrienDave> blitzcreep, no, this is not the "other OS" ;P
[21:20] <blitzcreep> so where should i put stuff?
[21:21] <ObrienDave> anywhere you like
[21:21] <blitzcreep> what is best practice?
[21:21] <tgm4883> blitzcreep: if they are single file programs and you just want your user to be able to launch them, then put them in ~/bin
[21:21] <ObrienDave> I have a Downloads directory that i use mainly.
[21:22] <Yxven> I'm trying to install lubuntu-desktop from lubuntu-core, but the package manager gets stuck installing anacron. Any ideas what I can do?
[21:22] <blitzcreep> ok
[21:22] <blitzcreep> ill try that :D
[21:22] <ObrienDave> blitzcreep, welcome to Linux :)
[21:23] <Bashing-om> blitzcreep: Consider [;acing the binary in /opt/ directory .
[21:23] <blitzcreep> yeah... 1 month ...only screwed up my setup 4 times to "no boot" :P
[21:23] <blitzcreep> what does "opt" stands for?
[21:24] <ObrienDave> you'll get over that fairly quickly
[21:24] <blitzcreep> yeah, as fast as you can break stuff you can fix it :D
[21:24] <blitzcreep> if you remember what you did wrong (typos in grub settings) :P
[21:25] <kz> need drivers to do format a pc with ubuntu? or it find them all automatically?
[21:25] <ObrienDave> blitzcreep, grub-customizer can help with that
[21:25] <Bashing-om> blitzcreep: We all with that spirit of adventure have done that ... my solution; dual boot such that there is that stable install and the "testing' install .
[21:26] <vagkor> hrllo
[21:26] <nino15>  irc://irc.explosionirc.org/extremo
[21:26] <nino15>  irc://irc.explosionirc.org/extremo
[21:26] <vagkor> i have audio problems with audio
[21:26] <nabblet> hi, is there a package that provides the install wizard one get's with the live images?
[21:26] <blitzcreep> Bashing-om, if you f*ck up your dual boot setting it doesnt matter ;)
[21:26] <nabblet> searching for "install ubuntu packages" and alike is very ambigous ;)
[21:27] <Bashing-om> blitzcreep: Sure it does .. then you learn grub !
[21:27] <zagaza> hey guys, not quite sure where to ask this but.. I tried installing lets encrypt (sudo apt-get install letsencrypt) and apparently it's supposed to be located in /etc/letsencrypt but it's not in there. Any idea how I can locate the folder or maybe remove it and reinstall it?
[21:28] <ObrienDave> zagaza, check your D/L first. then just re-install
[21:28] <vagkor> after installing linux mint i have audio crashes
[21:28] <zagaza> not sure how to check ObrienDave? I'm completely noobish with this ssh stuff
[21:28] <bekks> !mint | vagkor
[21:28] <zagaza> or rather, not sure what you mean by checking it
[21:28] <vagkor> ok thanks
[21:29] <ObrienDave> zagaza, you should have mentioned ssh also. beyond me
[21:29] <zagaza> ah sry
[21:29] <nabblet> I see two packages: live-installer and ubiquity. There is a askubuntu that points me to ubiquity. So what's live-installer then?
[21:30] <blitzcreep> Bashing-om, ^^ i now has tribble boot, even figgured out how to add own icons on burg in the config files :P
[21:30] <nabblet> oh, live-installer installs a live system, while ubiquity installs a "normal" system?
[21:30] <Bashing-om> zagaza: If the file name is " letsencrypt " then the command ' sudo find / -name "letsencrypt*" ' shoumd return where all installed .
[21:33] <zagaza> thanks Bashing-om, gonna try that
[21:34] <zagaza> ah found it in usr/bin but it says in the tutorial it should end up in /etc/letsencrypt.. something I am missing?
[21:37] <karthikeayan> Hi, I am seeing difference in huge page values between the /etc/default/grub file and /proc/meminfo. I have got 107520 in /etc/default/grub file. But /proc/meminfo shows 106856. What can be the reason?
[21:38] <nino15>  irc://irc.explosionirc.org
[21:38] <Bashing-om> zagaza: Have a talk with the author ? . Having the executable in the user space /usr/bin/ is perfectly acceptable . ( echo $PATH )
[21:41] <vsssd> So I have two OS:s and using GRUB N encryption. I also have Nvidia but with PPA drivers I got black scree. Tried nomodeset and nvidia nomode 1, still black screens
[21:41] <vsssd> Any clue guys still?
[21:41] <coppz> Hi guys. I wasnt watching what I was doing while installing OBS and installed the ffmpeg repo (sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kirillshkrogalev/ffmpeg-next) and now everytime I update in console I get loads of stuff saying release file is missing, but I dont even need this repo/ppa. How can I remove this? "E: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kirillshkrogalev/ffmpeg-next/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[21:41] <coppz> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[21:41] <coppz> "
[21:42] <ikonia> you don't just install a PPA by accident
[21:42] <ikonia> it takes a pretty clear and defined command
[21:43] <coppz> I done the ppa for 14.04 instead of following the new one
[21:43] <ikonia> coppz: so you've not actually installed anything from that repo then ?
[21:43] <Bashing-om> vsssd: What is tha hardwre - lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' -  and what is installed for the driver - dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia - in a pastebin .
[21:44] <vsssd> Bashing-om
[21:44] <vsssd> Thnaks will soon
[21:44] <coppz> what I have in brackets is what I put into terminal. Ever since whats in " " is what shows up everytime I update in terminal.
[21:44] <vsssd> http://pastebin.com/kpun9u4T
[21:44] <ikonia> coppz: just remove the repo then or manually remove the repo file
[21:44] <vsssd> dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia -
[21:45] <vsssd> - dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia -
[21:45] <vsssd> does not work all due
[21:45] <coppz> Ikonia to be honest I dont know where it is to remove, new to Ubuntu.
[21:45] <vsssd> Bashing-om
[21:46] <Yxven> seems pretty hard to install lubuntu on an old computer
[21:46] <Bashing-om> coppz: utopic was the last supported release: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kirillshkrogalev/ffmpeg-next/ubuntu/dists/ . Try ppa-purge to revert to what is in the repo ?
[21:46] <Yxven> can't install curl to get the nvidia driver I need to run graphics
[21:46] <ah_1991> i had just learned html and css and some js and have finished the first part of mit introduction to computer science is there any simple idea for web app that i can build
[21:46] <vsssd> Yxven: Installing Nvidia drivers beside wrecking your PC is hard...wondering about people talking about PC gaming on Linux
[21:47] <coppz> man right now your just saying words haha. How do I do this?
[21:47] <kostkon> !ppapurge
[21:48] <jok3rx> i am new here guys
[21:48] <Bashing-om> vsssd: http://pastebin.com/kpun9u4T . Rge 367 version river . and the dpkg command is good .. that is a "L" lower case .
[21:48] <jok3rx> whats going on here
[21:48] <coppz> Ubuttu In my case, what is the Repo name and which is sub? Sorry about this
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> jok3rx  type   /topic
[21:49] <frib> how can i resolve this conflict? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23404430/
[21:49] <vsssd> bashing-om
[21:49] <vsssd> http://pastebin.com/UJ89QpCt
[21:49] <vsssd> I ran                dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia -
[21:50] <jok3rx> who has a good working brute here
[21:50] <karthikeayan> anyone can help me about my hugepage question above?
[21:50] <jok3rx> just like capital one brute
[21:50] <ikonia> jok3rx: what do you want ?
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> karthikeayan  hit the up arrow to repeat the question
[21:50] <karthikeayan> Hi, I am seeing difference in huge page values between the /etc/default/grub file and /proc/meminfo. I have got 107520 in /etc/default/grub file. But /proc/meminfo shows 106856. What can be the reason?
[21:50] <jok3rx> @ikonia i want the updated brute scanner
[21:50] <jok3rx> i am a money man
[21:50] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-prime-applet
[21:51] <ikonia> jok3rx: what update brute scanner ?
[21:51] <ikonia> jok3rx: a "money man" ?
[21:51] <jok3rx> yeah
[21:51] <ikonia> jok3rx: could you just ask a "clear" question please.
[21:51] <jok3rx> the old one is not working and i need the new one
[21:51] <ikonia> what old one
[21:51] <Bashing-om> vsssd: ^ so where does nvidia-prime-applet come from ? and what is it ?
[21:52] <jok3rx> you use any brute capital one
[21:52] <coppz> coppz@Coppz-9530:~$ sudo ppa-purge ppa:ppa.launchpad.net/kirillshkrogalev/ffmpeg-next.ubuntu xenial/main
[21:52] <coppz> Updating packages lists
[21:52] <coppz> W: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/kirillshkrogalev/ffmpeg-next/ubuntu xenial Release' does not have a Release file.
[21:52] <coppz> E: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kirillshkrogalev/ffmpeg-next/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[21:52] <coppz> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[21:52] <vsssd> bashing-om> From dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia -
[21:52] <coppz> Warning:  apt-get update failed for some reason
[21:52] <ikonia> jok3rx: captial one is a ban
[21:52] <vsssd> You told me to use it
[21:52] <ikonia> bank
[21:52] <MonkeyDust> jok3rx  this is ubuntu support, sure you want to be here?
[21:52] <jok3rx> i would love to show u a pic but cant
[21:52] <ikonia> jok3rx: could you please clarify what you want
[21:52] <jok3rx> oooh i am sorry bro
[21:52] <karthikeayan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23404446/
[21:52] <jok3rx> i will leave
[21:53] <jok3rx> thanks @ikonia
[21:53] <ikonia> karthikeayan: are you setting that value in grub ?
[21:53] <vsssd> So I have two OS:s and using GRUB N encryption. I also have Nvidia but with PPA drivers I got black scree. Tried nomodeset and nvidia nomode 1, still black screens
[21:53] <Bashing-om> vsssd: I mean that nvidia-prime-applet is an unknown package .. where did it originate ?
[21:53] <karthikeayan> nope, am not setting.. am analyzing the root cause
[21:54] <ikonia> karthikeayan: what set it
[21:54] <vsssd> Bashing-om: I installed lastest Nvidia 370.xx something. I tried older Drivers also
[21:54] <ikonia> karthikeayan: I suspect there just isn't enough ram to allocate that number of pages at 2m
[21:54] <coppz> Can I please get some help
[21:54] <frib> how can i resolve this conflict? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23404430/
[21:54] <vsssd> Bashing-om: I been trying for about 3 hours to fix this problem
[21:54] <vsssd> Tried so far 4 dists
[21:54] <vsssd> Clearly a driver's problem
[21:54] <frib> some impossible apt situation
[21:54] <karthikeayan> @ikonia: automation tool, fuel is setting this
[21:54] <jok3rx> ikonia pls i have one question i need to hack some wifi pls
[21:54] <ikonia> coppz: remove the file from /etc/apt/sources.d
[21:54] <jok3rx> hw can i go abt it
[21:54] <ikonia> jok3rx: we don't help with that here
[21:55] <jok3rx> wow
[21:55] <jok3rx> no crime here
[21:55] <ikonia> karthikeayan: so I'd look at the value the tool is setting and why
[21:55] <vsssd> jok3rx: L:earn to hack not ask
[21:55] <karthikeayan> @ikonia: i think i have got enough ram Mem:        257710     221213      36497          1        348       3786
[21:55] <vsssd> jok3rx: Learn networking, setup a VM and learn about TCP / UDP
[21:55] <vsssd> Then come back and ask for Linux problems
[21:56] <vsssd> otherwise just DDOS and get arrested
[21:56] <ikonia> karthikeayan: how much ram do you actually have ?
[21:56] <coppz> Ikonia its grayed out it wont let me
[21:56] <karthikeayan> @ikonia: the tool is just writing the 107520 value into the config file
[21:56] <ikonia> coppz: what's greyed out
[21:56] <ikonia> karthikeayan: right, so why is it writing that value
[21:56] <ikonia> karthikeayan: what is the process it's using to work out that number
[21:57] <karthikeayan> @ikonia: no work out here, the value will be writtent as it is
[21:57] <coppz> to remove. I went into Files, Computer, etc, apt, sources.list.d like you said and when I right click to remove its grayed out
[21:57] <ikonia> karthikeayan: right, but something must work out that value
[21:57] <karthikeayan> @ikonia: we have multiple servers, on each of the node, there is a small mismatch
[21:57] <ikonia> karthikeayan: how much ram do you actually have ?
[21:57] <karthikeayan> @ikonia: i have got 35GB free now
[21:57] <ikonia> karthikeayan: no - how much ram does the machine have
[21:58] <vsssd> bashing-om: Got any idea or should I go with noveau drivers_
[21:58] <karthikeayan> @ikonia: might be at the time of deployment, it was running out of ram
[21:58] <frib> please help to resolve this apt-get situation! http://paste.ubuntu.com/23404430/
[21:58] <karthikeayan> @ikonia: but server is 256GB, i dont think ram gets filled up
[21:58] <ikonia> karthikeayan: ok - the server is 256gb of ram,
[21:58] <ikonia> karthikeayan: however if you look at the maths of that config, you have 35GB of huge pages
[21:59] <coppz> Ikonia: to remove. I went into Files, Computer, etc, apt, sources.list.d like you said and when I right click to remove its grayed out
[21:59] <ikonia> karthikeayan: so if you are saying you have 35gb free, and the huge pages adds up to 35GB....that suggests there is not enough ram to do "more"
[21:59] <Bashing-om> vsssd: ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' and still unknown how that applet for nvidia got installed or what it is .
[21:59] <ikonia> coppz: open a terminal and just type sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/$name_of_file_you_want_to_remove
[21:59] <coppz> thanks
[21:59] <needsomehelpyo> I cant find freemind on 16.04. How is that possible?
[22:00] <karthikeayan> @ikonia: whats the math here? can you please elobarate, am not getting
[22:00] <vsssd> bashing-om
[22:00] <vsssd> http://pastebin.com/2LqzCyi8
[22:00] <OerHeks> frib, did you update before install?
[22:00] <frib> OerHeks, i think i tried to install a non-existent package
[22:01] <ikonia> karthikeayan: look at the top line of your paste
[22:01] <frib> i was asked to install libmysql++ but that package doesnt exist
[22:01] <ikonia> karthikeayan: there is 35gb of pages allocated
[22:01] <ikonia> karthikeayan: you have 35gb of ram....
[22:01] <vsssd> bashing-om: But how does this help my problem? I have not installed any drivers now
[22:01] <vsssd> I am running on a USB CD
[22:01] <vsssd> I am asking for a specifi problem
[22:01] <OerHeks> frib,  the dev does exist http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libmysql++-dev
[22:02] <OerHeks> http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/xenial/mysql++
[22:02] <frib> OerHeks, i noticed, but that is not the package requested by the script i'm trying to run
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[22:02] <frib> i'm not sure what libmysql++ is, are you?
[22:04] <karthikeayan> @ikonia:  i believe 356352 kB is 348 gB
[22:04] <ikonia> Hmmm maybe my maths is off then
[22:04] <Bashing-om> vsssd: 1) that is not the sources list I had ecpected to see . 2) if this is a Mint install we can not help . The later drivers for yoyr card are in a PPA dedicated to nVidia drivers . You must have the source to access that PPA .
[22:05] <karthikeayan> @ikonia: u confused me
[22:05] <vsssd> bashing-om: I had this problem with, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu and Linux Mint
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[22:05] <vsssd> bashing-om: All this dist I installed today and same problem
[22:05] <vsssd> Usally I would add PPA
[22:06] <Bashing-om> vsssd: What release do you have installed at this time ?
[22:06] <vsssd> bashing: Usally I would add PPA through CLI but I am on USB Live disk I said because I cannot acess the default installation
[22:06] <vsssd> Bashing-om: I tried Linux Mint and using it now, same problem with Kubuntu
[22:06] <vsssd> Bashing-om: all are ubuntu core dists
[22:06] <ikonia> no they are not
[22:06] <ikonia> mint and ubuntu are different
[22:07] <Bashing-om> vsssd: Boot the install to the login screen . ctl_alt_+F1 to gain a console . Yes ?
[22:07] <vsssd> ikonia: Same problem I have all due
[22:07] <Yxven> I need gcc to install my graphics driver but it hangs saying it can't determine the runlevel. initing a runlevel also hangs. Any ideas?
[22:07] <ikonia> vsssd: I don' tknow what that means
[22:07] <vsssd> Bashing-om: Does not work with nomodeset nor with normal installation *normal installation,m everything freezes(
[22:07] <vsssd> and when doing nomodeset it is blank and keyboard also froozen. Black screen also
[22:08] <vsssd> ikonia: Hardware drivers, all have the same problem with Black screen using Nvidia drivers
[22:08] <vsssd> Ikonia: Even when using Kubuntu *diffrent GUI* I got crashes and they told me to install Nvidia drivers N it would be done...that is not the case I guess
[22:09] <ikonia> vsssd: "different gui" ?
[22:09] <vsssd> Ikonia: Kubuntu uses KDE
[22:09] <ikonia> yes, I'm aware of that
[22:09] <vsssd> Ikonia: Where Ubuntu uses UNITY & MATE
[22:09] <ikonia> it's the same base OS though
[22:10] <vsssd> Ikonia: That is the main diffrence between Kubuntu N Ubuntu and different packages but the core is the same
[22:10] <ikonia> I know the difference between ubuntu
[22:10] <ikonia> however mint is a different setup, hence why it's not supported here
[22:10] <vsssd> Still Ikonia I have the same problem with Kubuntu, Ubuntu N Linux
[22:10] <vsssd> If you can tell me a solution for Kubuntu & Ubuntu I would glady change and format my USB to install Ubuntu 16.04
[22:11] <ikonia> no
[22:11] <ikonia> I'm not debugging a mint machine
[22:11] <vsssd> Ikonia, read what I wrote instead
[22:11] <ikonia> what have I missed ?
[22:11] <vsssd> Ikonia, tell me a solution for Ubuntu and I will change or install
[22:11] <vsssd> Nomodeset does not work
[22:12] <OerHeks> that 970 should work with the 343 driver and up
[22:12] <wire_> *.* has no installation candidate- i get this for everything
[22:12] <vsssd> nor grub_gfxmode 1280x1024x24
[22:12] <ikonia> vsssd: I can't tell you a solution as it needs to be debugged
[22:12] <vsssd> So if I download Kubuntu now will you help then_
[22:12] <ikonia> at this time, probably not personally, but others will
[22:13] <wire_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package 'xchat' has no installation candidate
[22:13] <vsssd> Ikonia: I am maybe little offensive but I am shit tired off this, been trying to solve this for 4 hours soon
[22:13] <ikonia> vsssd: you don't need to swear
[22:13] <vsssd> Ikonia: Ban me
[22:15] <wire_> i can download python-software-properties, sowtware-properties-common giving errors for apt-add,
[22:16] <wire_> cant*
[22:16] <MightyKing> Is there too much difference between Ubuntu 16.04 and 14.04?
[22:16] <jnagro> i cant get X to start. i have a built in AMD card and an NVIDIA that i added
[22:16] <jnagro> i was running on the NVIDIA but i swapped back to the built in so i could leave the NVIDIA to be 100% idle for processing
[22:17] <jnagro> i get the login screen, but after entering my password it just brings me back
[22:17] <OerHeks> wire_, apt-add? use 'apt install'
[22:17] <jnagro> been googling around a ton, but i cant figure out what exactly the issue is
[22:17] <wire_> i am adding ppa
[22:18] <wire_> i finially apped it now i get E: Package 'kodi' has no installation candidate
[22:19] <Ben64> check the ppa
[22:19] <dax> MightyKing: about two years worth of new software versions. other than that, not particularly
[22:19] <OerHeks> after adding a ppa, run update.
[22:20] <MightyKing> Hmm...
[22:23] <Yxven> I just googled that jnagro http://askubuntu.com/questions/223501/ubuntu-gets-stuck-in-a-login-loop pressing ctrl-alt-f3 got me at least logged into the system
[22:31] <frib> On trying to set display resolution i get this error.  Does anyone know what it means?GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SettingsDaemon was not provided by any .service files
[22:33] <jhebden> 278963
[22:36] <minimec> frib: What window manager are you runnung?
[22:36] <frib> minimec, fluxbox
[22:38] <minimec> frib: That is the problem. You would have to start the gnome-settings-daemon or the unity-settings-daemon at the beginning of your fluxbox session, to be able to use the gnome GUI insterface. Otherwise, not only the GUI but also the vlaues you set will not be taken in to account.
[22:39] <frib> minimec, got it thanks!
[22:39] <minimec> frib: You could configure the xserver with a xorg.conf or use xrandr in a terminal to set your resolution. That should work.
[22:40] <frib> minimec, xrandr sounds good
[22:40] <catbeard> how can i monitor keypress (keyup,keydown) events?
[22:40] <minimec> frib: Xrandr is a rather nifty tool....
[22:41] <frib> minimec, ok thanks my friend
[22:41] <minimec> catbeard: in a terminal, run 'xev'.
[22:42] <Bashing-om> catbeard: ' xev ' can show you that .
[22:44] <catbeard> doesn't explain why in gedit, it's moving all around
[22:44] <catbeard> i disabled trackpad input in xorg.conf.d for synapticcs
[22:45] <catbeard> and i have a usb mouse plugged in
[22:52] <martysia> good evening. I have installed ubuntu 16.04.1 on a gpt and UEFI machine with preinstalled windows. I was informed that the installation was successful but after the reboot my computer went straight into windows. I have tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair and it didn't help. Here's my result: http://paste2.org/88v18mzH ad here's my partition table: http://dpaste.com/0YTE9CM
[22:53] <catbeard> here's a video of what's going on.. minimec Bashing-om - http://www.filedropper.com/screencast2016-10-30185109
[22:55] <minimec> martysia: Looks like the bootloader is installed on /dev/sdb. Can you choose a different device to boot from in the UEFI boot menu. If so, choose the other harddrive.
[22:55] <martysia> I have also tried bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path\efi\ubuntu\shimx64.efi under windows - with no luck
[22:56] <martysia> minimec: what?
[22:57] <catbeard> martysia: set the boot device in BIOS to /dev/sdb
[22:57] <catbeard> or whatever device represents sdb
[22:57] <martysia> minimec: you want me to have my USB stick connected each time I want to run ubuntu?
[22:58] <minimec> martysia: From the boot Info Script: => No boot loader is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda. => Syslinux MBR (5.00 and higher) is installed in the MBR of /dev/sdb.
[22:59] <minimec> martysia: Your computer is set to boot from /dev/sda. So it automatically boots windows. You should be able to change the boot device and boot from the other harddrive.
[23:00] <minimec> martysia: I don't know how you installed ubuntu, but there is no boot manager installed on the /dev/sda harddrive, so you cannot start Ubuntu.
[23:00] <martysia> minimec: how is that possible? I didn't change the boot device during the installation - I left it as a default and it was /dev/sda
[23:02] <debkad> Hi martysia
[23:02] <minimec> martysia: Ok. I don't know, why the installation did not work.  I don't really know UEFI erally well. You may have other people here with better knowledge.
[23:02] <peeps[work]> is there a packages that would contain POSIX related man pages?   someone is telling me to read section 3p for a functoin, but i don't have that section on my computer.
[23:03] <martysia> hi debkad
[23:05] <Random832> peeps[work]: manpages-posix and manpages-posix-dev
[23:06] <Random832> manpages-posix-dev is section 3p, manpages-posix is section 1p (useful for shell scripting)
[23:07] <debkad> I'm getting a freeze on the whole system caused by UFW Block message, so the question is: How to get rid of the UFW message SRC=blabla DST=blabla , causing freeze of the whole system
[23:07] <Ben64> debkad: that wouldn't cause a freeze
[23:07] <debkad> Ben64: sadly it did
[23:07] <Ben64> it didn't though
[23:08] <debkad> when the message stop, i can control my session
[23:08] <peeps[work]> Random832, ah, thank you.   i was grepping for "doc" didn't realize it was prefixed as simply "manpages"
[23:08] <Ben64> debkad: explain more
[23:08] <cncr04s> men control all documentation
[23:08] <debkad> Ben64: the prove: http://sprunge.us/IHCg
[23:09] <debkad> all that time ^ i can't do anything
[23:09] <Ben64> debkad: doesn't prove anything, explain what's happening
[23:09] <debkad> Ben64: my system freeze totaly, when i see the syslog/dmesg i see those messages
[23:10] <Ben64> if it's frozen, you wouldn't have logs running
[23:10] <hggdh> debkad: these messages are spread around by seconds. Tey are not causing your system to loc
[23:11] <debkad> ok but how to disable them at least
[23:11] <Ben64> debkad: can you just fully explain what you're doing and what's happening
[23:12] <debkad> Ben64: that was my problem, i don't know how to explain more with my little english
[23:12] <Ben64> google translate exists
[23:14] <debkad> google: When the operating system freezes and after my research immediately after the incident, I see too many mistakes in my syslog and Demasg
[23:15] <debkad> i don't see any other problem when i see those files
[23:15] <Ben64> debkad: you're still not explaining the actual issue
[23:15] <debkad> ok forget it
[23:16] <debkad> what causing the freeze then?
[23:16] <Ben64> that's what i'm trying to figure out
[23:16] <debkad> may be none
[23:17] <Ben64> so can you explain what's actually going on or not?
[23:17] <debkad> i did
[23:17] <Planecool> Hello
[23:17] <debkad> Ben64: the syslog and dmesg must show the errors
[23:17] <debkad> but those the errors above
[23:17] <Ben64> debkad: you haven't explain anything
[23:18] <debkad> Ben64: may be
[23:18] <Planecool> So i installes nvida drivers on encrypted  ubuntu 16.04, the internet suggest enabling no splash from grub but im not sure how to do that. Any help much appriciated.
[23:18] <debkad> Ben64: my system freeze and i want to fix that?
[23:18] <debkad> still not clear?
[23:18] <Ben64> debkad: yes, so explain what exactly is happening, is that not clear?
[23:18] <Ben64> !nomodeset | Planecool
[23:18] <debkad> Ben64: the whole system freeze <== that the problem
[23:19] <Planecool> Thank u very much, sorry about the poor grammer im on my phone.
[23:19] <Ben64> Planecool: no problem, just put "nosplash" instead of nomodeset, unless that's what you wanted
[23:20] <Ben64> debkad: you need to explain, in detail, what you're doing and what is happening on the computer. without this information nobody will be able to help you.
[23:21] <debkad> Ben64: what i was doing, actually as everyday, what happen: system freeze, no mouse no keyboard ... responding, checking both syslog and dmesg i seen just the messages i posted above, what else i must explain?
[23:22] <Ben64> debkad: well good luck, i'm not going to continue fighting you to try to help
[23:22] <debkad> Ben64: i see
[23:22] <saintpetejackboy> I know this is not the right channel to ask this, but since when is #php invite-only? :(
[23:23] <Ben64> saintpetejackboy: it's ##php
[23:23] <ikonia> saintpetejackboy: if you know it's not the right channel, don't ask
[23:23] <Planecool> Uhh nomodeswt did not worm
[23:23] <saintpetejackboy> sorry :(
[23:23] <ikonia> you must see how rude that is
[23:23] <saintpetejackboy> Indeed
[23:24] <Planecool> Where is says splasg quiet
[23:24] <Ben64> Planecool: ?
[23:25] <Ben64> Planecool: if you wanted nosplash, you would put "nosplash quiet" instead of "splash quiet", and if you wanted nomodeset, you'd put that there also
[23:26] <Buttersnot> Question.. Running Ubuntu 16.04, I just realized that my wired network connection works (I can see my router, and I can ping any valid internet IP), however, if I try to access anything by name, DNS doesn't get resolved. If I disable wired, and enable Wifi, everything works normal.  What/where should I look to get this to work under wired?
[23:27] <Planecool> http://askubuntu.com/questions/33416/how-do-i-disable-the-boot-splash-screen-and-only-show-kernel-and-boot-text-inst
[23:27] <shawn196|R40> /me facepalms
[23:27] <Planecool> This worked for me
[23:27] <Planecool> From grub just fine
[23:28] <fqtw> if i want to run an executable as a daemon, does it have to be compiled with that in mind?
[23:29] <Planecool> Question 2, if i want to set xset mouse 1 0 permently is that possible?