| jbicha | robert_ancell: good morning | 00:08 |
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| jbicha | I guess gspell needs allow-stderr added to d/tests/control | 00:08 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha, mp? | 01:04 |
| jbicha | robert_ancell: https://paste.gnome.org/py7gajgx9 | 01:06 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha, ta | 01:07 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha, is that going to get fixed in Debian? It will be nicer if we can just stay in sync | 01:12 |
| jbicha | I did push it to pkg-gnome git but I didn't ping anyone to upload it | 01:12 |
| jbicha | I'm not sure how important autopkgtest is to them since it doesn't stop migration like on Ubuntu | 01:13 |
| jbicha | bigon: well since you did the last gspell upload, I'm pinging you ^ | 01:17 |
| hikiko | hi | 05:20 |
| duflu | Morning hikiko | 06:04 |
| hikiko | hey duflu :) | 06:04 |
| hikiko | how are you? | 06:04 |
| hikiko | (happy Monday!) | 06:04 |
| duflu | hikiko: I think I'm almost normal (last week was all about the jet lag). You? | 06:04 |
| hikiko | no jet lag for me :) | 06:05 |
| RAOF | :) | 06:06 |
| hikiko | hi RAOF ! | 06:06 |
| duflu | hikiko: I forgot to ask... in your talk you mentioned your optimizations don't ever use more than 17% CPU on a low end system. Does that mean we have room for 5x frame rate still? :) | 06:06 |
| hikiko | what do you mean by 5x frame rate duflu ? 5 times faster? (I am pretty sure I said usually though because we ve counted several times but I can't be sure that someone won't start a super heavy project) | 06:08 |
| hikiko | 17% was the higher I measured in a vm when I opened several windows etc | 06:09 |
| hikiko | (a very restricted vm :)) | 06:09 |
| duflu | hikiko: OK, fair enough. Just sounded like the worst case performance. I would expect worst cast is higher than 17% as you say | 06:09 |
| duflu | worst *case* | 06:09 |
| * duflu is reminded of some Unity8 bugs that need some attention in that area | 06:10 | |
| hikiko | maybe I should remove the percentage from the slide and say something like "N times faster" and measure that N | 06:11 |
| RAOF | :) | 06:11 |
| hikiko | by opening the same windows :p | 06:12 |
| duflu | hikiko: Or just set swap interval = 2 or 3 :) | 06:12 |
| hikiko | in the next presentation :) | 06:12 |
| hikiko | swap interval? | 06:12 |
| duflu | hikiko: How often OpenGL renders (by default it's every 1) | 06:13 |
| hikiko | oh, swap buffers | 06:13 |
| hikiko | no :) | 06:15 |
| hikiko | https://www.opengl.org/wiki/Swap_Interval | 06:15 |
| duflu | Sorry, I'm day dreaming about optimizations. While actually meant to be working on optimizations | 06:15 |
| duflu | Yeah 1 is default, 0 is for games and benchmarks. But you can use 2 for 30Hz and 3 for 20Hz etc if you wish to limit CPU usage | 06:16 |
| hikiko | well in compiz we have to synchronize with vblank otherwise you ll have tearing | 06:17 |
| duflu | hikiko: Any value above 0 is synchronized | 06:17 |
| duflu | Although if you're in fallback mode with fbdev the sync logic probably doesn't exist. Tearing is unavoidable there | 06:18 |
| hikiko | I mostly changed the effects that require redraws or invalidate large areas | 06:18 |
| hikiko | for example if a plugin used fade with 10 intermediate steps | 06:19 |
| hikiko | I made the steps a parameter and reduced them to 0 | 06:19 |
| duflu | hikiko: I know. Sorry for the confusion... Keep it up. :) | 06:20 |
| hikiko | I'll read about sync etc though duflu, I just made the changes at a higher level and I am not so familiar, might be useful to do some optimisations there if there are no visual artifacts :) | 06:23 |
| hikiko | thanks for mentioning that! | 06:23 |
| desrt | morning! | 07:27 |
| hikiko | hi desrt | 07:27 |
| duflu | Morgen(?) desrt | 07:28 |
| desrt | guten morgen :) | 07:29 |
| desrt | thanks for reminding me | 07:29 |
| * desrt punches the duolingo clock | 07:29 | |
| desrt | "You are now 34% fluent in German!" | 07:37 |
| desrt | "[Add to LinkedIn Profile]" | 07:37 |
| Sweet5hark | moin | 07:53 |
| hikiko | desrt, according to duolingo you are almost german now! :p | 08:08 |
| hikiko | hi willcooke | 08:55 |
| willcooke | morning all! | 08:55 |
| willcooke | How's it going hikiko ? | 08:55 |
| hikiko | good :) | 08:55 |
| hikiko | how about you? did you enjoy your holidays? | 08:55 |
| willcooke | hikiko, was very busy :) School half term so we did lots of things | 08:56 |
| hikiko | :D | 08:56 |
| hikiko | I hope you had fun willcooke :) | 08:58 |
| Laney | 'sup | 09:02 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke hikiko Laney | 09:03 |
| seb128 | had a good w.e? | 09:03 |
| hikiko | hey seb128 Laney :) | 09:03 |
| flexiondotorg | Morning Laney seb128 willcooke hikiko | 09:04 |
| hikiko | morning flexiondotorg | 09:04 |
| seb128 | hey flexiondotorg, how are you? got over the ubuflu? | 09:04 |
| flexiondotorg | seb128, I have my Mojo back :-D | 09:05 |
| willcooke | o/ | 09:06 |
| Laney | hey seb128 hikiko flexiondotorg & willcooke | 09:09 |
| Laney | seb128: good thanks, I enjoyed my extra hour in bed | 09:10 |
| Laney | and rode my bike with a pumpkin attached to the back | 09:10 |
| Laney | you? | 09:11 |
| seb128 | w.e was quite alright | 09:18 |
| seb128 | though I've a cold | 09:18 |
| seb128 | been dealing with a start of cold for the week and it got me at the end | 09:19 |
| Laney | :( | 09:19 |
| Laney | did you get the renovations finished? | 09:19 |
| seb128 | but it's not too strong so it's alright (though a bit worth today, going to teach me to not rest) | 09:19 |
| hikiko | epidemic flubuntu :/ | 09:19 |
| seb128 | not quite finished but it's getting there | 09:20 |
| seb128 | we should be able to use it by the end of this week | 09:20 |
| seb128 | but otherwise w.e was nice, gf's birthday diner on saturday and enjoyed the nice weather yesterday | 09:22 |
| Laney | good! | 09:22 |
| hikiko | Trevinho, andyrock ping :) | 09:28 |
| Trevinho | hikiko: hey | 10:18 |
| hikiko | hey Trevinho | 10:18 |
| hikiko | if you have a moment could you review my branches (u7, compiz)? | 10:19 |
| Trevinho | hikiko: Yeah, I will do it later today... | 10:21 |
| seb128 | good morning Trevinho! | 10:21 |
| hikiko | thanks :) | 10:21 |
| Trevinho | seb128: hey, how are you? | 10:21 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, had a good w.e? | 10:21 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, I got a cold, otherwise I'm good ... you?N | 10:21 |
| Trevinho | seb128: Yeah, very good... I've been to Bologna for a security event and some hanging out with friends... It's a very active city... | 10:22 |
| Trevinho | Tomorrow is a national holiday again though ☺️ | 10:22 |
| seb128 | security event? | 10:22 |
| Trevinho | seb128 yeah... Event about hacking and security. Quite interesting. | 10:23 |
| seb128 | here as well, though I'm going to work and swap it in decembre, getting thin on vac days for end of year | 10:23 |
| Trevinho | seb128: ah good move. Well.... Maybe i could do that too... But, well... I'll see. I actually wanted do something even today, but my friends are getting lazy :-/ | 10:24 |
| hikiko | back | 10:27 |
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| willcooke | Laney, seb128 flexiondotorg - I just logged this (we mentioned it during the sprint): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-disk-utility/+bug/1637984 | 11:47 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1637984 in gnome-disk-utility (Ubuntu) "Disks shows all mounted snaps" [Undecided,New] | 11:47 |
| willcooke | I dont think it's really a bug as such - but would be interested to know what you think | 11:47 |
| flexiondotorg | Well, I have a very snapped 16.04 machine and Disks is a bit cluttered. | 11:52 |
| Laney | willcooke: mmm, I didn't hear about that | 11:55 |
| andyrock | morning | 11:56 |
| Laney | Not sure what the right thing to do is | 11:56 |
| willcooke | hey andyrock - thanks for the heads up | 11:56 |
| willcooke | re public hols ^ | 11:56 |
| Laney | hi andyrock | 11:56 |
| Laney | 'sup? | 11:56 |
| andyrock | nothing special you? | 11:59 |
| Laney | feeling spooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooOOOOoooOOOOooOOOOoky | 12:00 |
| Laney | flexiondotorg: you want to fwd that one upstream and ask if they have any ideas about what to do maybe? | 12:00 |
| flexiondotorg | I'll add it to my list. | 12:00 |
| Laney | ta | 12:01 |
| willcooke | thanks flexiondotorg Laney | 12:01 |
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| popey | I think I have a really easily reproducible way to crash unity-panel-service on 16.04. Can someone reproduce, and I'll file a bug? Click the date/time indicator, skip forward a few months, then press escape. Machine appears to lock but it's just the panel service frozen, then a few mins later apport arrives and everything carries on.... | 12:21 |
| popey | https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/70fd2256-9f64-11e6-a12f-fa163e171d9b is my crash report for it | 12:22 |
| jbicha | seb128: could you try resetting the versions tracker? I believe I broke it this weekend but it generated fine here locally now | 12:26 |
| jbicha | Laney: interested in reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/ubuntu-themes/fix-gtk322-warnings/+merge/309652 ? | 12:32 |
| Laney | jbicha: sure, will do at some point | 12:34 |
| Laney | is it backwards compatible? | 12:34 |
| jbicha | Laney: yes, to yakkety | 12:36 |
| seb128 | jbicha, did you push override? | 12:37 |
| Laney | good | 12:37 |
| jbicha | seb128: no | 12:37 |
| seb128 | weird | 12:37 |
| seb128 | I'm having a look in any case | 12:37 |
| seb128 | popey, doesn't do it for me | 12:38 |
| seb128 | well I tried a few being less than 10 | 12:38 |
| popey | hm | 12:40 |
| willcooke | popey, seb128 - crashes here (so 64bit issue?) | 12:40 |
| seb128 | no, can't get it to bug | 12:40 |
| seb128 | could be | 12:40 |
| seb128 | or depends of your settings, if you have calendar events, etc | 12:40 |
| popey | i also get it to bug out if I press AltGr instead of Esc | 12:40 |
| popey | could be, yeah | 12:40 |
| seb128 | using altgr doesn't do anything here | 12:41 |
| seb128 | in any case if it segfaults it's a valid bug even if it doesn't happen to everyone | 12:41 |
| seb128 | shame we don't have anyone working on indicators anymore though :-/ | 12:42 |
| popey | seems I'm not alone, there's thousands of crashes of this type in errors.ubuntu.com | 12:42 |
| popey | "unity-panel-service (11) g_type_check_instance_is_a → ido_calendar_menu_item_key_press → _gtk_marshal_BOOLEAN__BOXED → g_closure_invoke → signal_emit_unlocked_R" | 12:42 |
| seb128 | willcooke, yeah, the disks thing is a bit tricky, they are valid mounts | 12:43 |
| popey | looks like there's already a bug for it, bug 1554219 | 12:43 |
| ubot5` | Error: Launchpad bug 1554219 could not be found | 12:43 |
| popey | lies | 12:43 |
| popey | :) | 12:43 |
| seb128 | hehe | 12:43 |
| seb128 | popey, you need to change month for it to bug? | 12:44 |
| seb128 | how many? | 12:44 |
| popey | i skipped to july next year | 12:44 |
| popey | doesn't always do it, annoyingly | 12:45 |
| popey | but often enough that I've had it happen repeatedly on me | 12:45 |
| seb128 | let's see if tedg or charles might be wanted to have a look, probably a bug in ido | 12:46 |
| JanC | Disks shows block devices, not (all) mounts | 13:11 |
| flexiondotorg | seb128, Laney jbicha Do you have HiDPI capable machines? | 13:11 |
| flexiondotorg | Zesty is exhibiting very unusual behavior on XPS 15. | 13:12 |
| flexiondotorg | Almost as if a single UHD screen is the top left quarter of the screen resolution. | 13:13 |
| jbicha | my screen is 1080p | 13:15 |
| Laney | Yes, but I didn't upgrade yet | 13:17 |
| seb128 | flexiondotorg, I don't | 13:31 |
| dobey | hikiko: hi! were you finally able to get your laptop fixed? :) | 13:42 |
| hikiko | hey dobey :) almost... Ibm sent me some parts after I sent them pictures and details but I haven't replaced the broken ones yet! I will do it after the end of my day :) | 13:49 |
| hikiko | but dobey some soldering fixed it temporarily: http://i.imgur.com/AHGj2q1.jpg | 13:52 |
| dobey | hikiko: haha nice :) | 13:53 |
| hikiko | but I have a screw and a metal part now | 13:53 |
| hikiko | remained outside :/ | 13:54 |
| hikiko | I don't know where from | 13:54 |
| hikiko | :s | 13:54 |
| * flexiondotorg gets lunch... | 13:54 | |
| dobey | :-/ | 13:59 |
| seb128 | jbicha, versions errors out with that | 14:33 |
| seb128 | File "versions.py", line 537, in <module> | 14:33 |
| seb128 | if package.ubuntu_version is None or compare_versions(apt_pkg.upstream_version(package.upstream_version), apt_pkg.upstream_version(package.ubuntu_version)) > 0: | 14:33 |
| seb128 | TypeError: must be string, not None | 14:33 |
| seb128 | andyrock, hey, could you have a look to bug #633749? | 14:47 |
| ubot5` | bug 633749 in RPM "[rpm] %find_lang should not list C documentation" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/633749 | 14:47 |
| seb128 | sorry | 14:47 |
| seb128 | bug 1633749 | 14:47 |
| ubot5` | bug 1633749 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Double login to switch back to my session after closing the guest session" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1633749 | 14:47 |
| andyrock | oki | 14:47 |
| seb128 | thanks | 14:48 |
| seb128 | andyrock, the unity lockscreen doesn't seem to unlock anymore when coming back from the lightdm greeter | 14:48 |
| andyrock | just on y? | 14:48 |
| seb128 | yes | 14:48 |
| * flexiondotorg returns | 14:50 | |
| andyrock | seb128: cannot reproduce on a virtual machine | 15:05 |
| seb128 | weird | 15:05 |
| jbicha | seb128: could you subscribe desktop-bugs to libgnome-games-support for bug 1635642 ? | 15:05 |
| ubot5` | bug 1635642 in libgnome-games-support (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libgnome-games-support" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1635642 | 15:05 |
| seb128 | I can on my conference laptop | 15:06 |
| seb128 | several other people said they saw that during the team week | 15:06 |
| seb128 | jbicha, done | 15:07 |
| seb128 | jbicha, did you see my comment about the version's error | 15:07 |
| jbicha | seb128: yes, I have a possible fix for that | 15:08 |
| andyrock | Trevinho: can you reproduce this? https://launchpad.net/bugs/1633749 | 15:15 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1633749 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Double login to switch back to my session after closing the guest session" [Medium,Triaged] | 15:15 |
| andyrock | on Y | 15:15 |
| flocculant | andyrock: I saw that when testing Y (on Xubuntu) reported against light-locker at the time | 15:21 |
| andyrock | well xubuntu does not use unity | 15:23 |
| flocculant | nope - not saying we do - but if xubuntu saw the same thing - perhaps it's not unity *shrug* | 15:24 |
| andyrock | maybe systemd-logind | 15:25 |
| flocculant | tbh - we had so many issues with this *sort* of issue at that time - I got lost - not got a Y install now to look again | 15:27 |
| flocculant | just thought I'd mention it | 15:27 |
| andyrock | k thanks | 15:29 |
| seb128 | Laney, ^ if you have an Y system could you give that a go? switch to the greeter from indicator-session and log back and see if the session is unlocked | 15:34 |
| seb128 | willcooke, popey, Trevinho was a step ahead of you it seems, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ido/13.10.0+17.04.20161028-0ubuntu1 uploaded on friday fixes that calendar segfault | 15:41 |
| willcooke | nice one Trevinho | 15:42 |
| willcooke | please SRU to X :) | 15:42 |
| seb128 | :-) | 15:43 |
| seb128 | willcooke, but again he was a step ahead ... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=ido ;-) | 15:43 |
| seb128 | Italian quality | 15:43 |
| willcooke | BOOM! | 15:44 |
| willcooke | 10 points to Ravenclaw | 15:45 |
| Laney | seb128: I already know that you have to double unlock | 15:45 |
| Laney | session -> guest session -> lightdm -> session does it | 15:45 |
| seb128 | andyrock, ^ | 15:45 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks | 15:46 |
| andyrock | oki I can reproduce with | 15:48 |
| andyrock | session -> lock -> switch -> lightdm -> session | 15:49 |
| andyrock | if I do session -> guest -> lightdm -> session it works | 15:49 |
| andyrock | i'll try to fix it | 15:49 |
| seb128 | thanks | 15:50 |
| seb128 | but weird, guest -> back to lightdm -> log in is buggy here | 15:50 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, I've been looking at Firefox notebooks (tabs) again. | 15:59 |
| flexiondotorg | And willcooke had also pointed out that tabs in GNOME Terminal and GEdit were inconsistent, and could I look at that too. | 16:00 |
| Laney | that's because willcooke himself added gnome-terminal specific tab styling | 16:01 |
| flexiondotorg | I recall something about "coloured tabs" either from an chat here or a conversation. | 16:01 |
| willcooke | making the tabs in gedit have different colours (or making the current tab more obvious) would be a reeeeealy nice fix. If you want to rework the terminal fixes to make them look better - fine with me, but not something to spend a lot of time on I think. | 16:02 |
| flexiondotorg | I've got a fairly significant reworking on tabs, which make Terminal and Gedit look consistent and sort FF. | 16:02 |
| willcooke | perfect! thanks flexiondotorg | 16:02 |
| flexiondotorg | So, my tab are not a dark/light distinctive as in GNOME Terminal. | 16:02 |
| willcooke | flexiondotorg, if you have a screenshot / demo - we should run it past design quickly | 16:03 |
| flexiondotorg | This is to make sure while they work in FF they don't look incorrect in GTK3. | 16:03 |
| flexiondotorg | OK | 16:03 |
| flexiondotorg | I'll clean up what I have and create before/after for gedit, terminal and FF/ | 16:03 |
| Laney | Nice | 16:15 |
| Laney | fixing notebook tabs would be decent | 16:15 |
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| andyrock | seb128: logind is not sending us the dbus signal | 17:31 |
| andyrock | or we're not receiving it | 17:35 |
| andyrock | seb128: ok so the enviroment variable XDG_SESSION_ID is not set anymore | 17:37 |
| andyrock | that's the problem, we're not listening to the correct dbus path | 17:37 |
| andyrock | seb128: now would be nice to know why that variable is not set | 17:37 |
| andyrock | seb128: i can get it using initctl get-env | 17:40 |
| andyrock | but not with g_getenv | 17:40 |
| andyrock | Trevinho: ^^^ | 17:40 |
| seb128 | oh, another systemd session fallout then... | 17:40 |
| andyrock | where should I fix it? | 17:41 |
| seb128 | good question, depends if relying on the env variable to be set is the right thing | 17:56 |
| seb128 | likely in the systemd job | 17:56 |
| seb128 | Laney and/or Trevinho maybe have an opinion | 17:56 |
| * Trevinho checks | 17:57 | |
| Trevinho | Oh... mhmh. Maybe there's some systemd way to get it? | 17:58 |
| Trevinho | or... Mh, ensuring we export it when launching unity would be preferrable | 17:58 |
| andyrock | Trevinho: oki I can prepare a branch | 17:59 |
| Trevinho | andyrock: using initctl or what? | 17:59 |
| andyrock | yep | 17:59 |
| andyrock | initctl get-env work | 17:59 |
| andyrock | i can check if the variable is already set | 17:59 |
| andyrock | otherwise I set it | 18:00 |
| Trevinho | well, the fact is that is weird that systemd can't see that if upstart has it | 18:00 |
| Trevinho | but... | 18:00 |
| Trevinho | could be something to enforce | 18:00 |
| CrazyLemon | guys.. is this a known 16.10 bug https://i.imgur.com/PIsKAWf.png ? dual display..the secondary one with the messed up graphics is when i drag the window from the left around the secondary display. Basically anything i drag/open on secondary display there's a trail of that | 18:01 |
| Trevinho | CrazyLemon: seb128, Laney was looking at it already? | 18:01 |
| andyrock | gnome-shell seems to use XDG_SESSION_ID too | 18:01 |
| * dobey saw several people have that bug on the haag projector | 18:02 | |
| andyrock | using getenv | 18:02 |
| andyrock | it's a nautilus bug | 18:02 |
| Trevinho | dobey: yeah... It's reproducible for some time in VMs actually. Now it started happening in a sronger way | 18:06 |
| Laney | CrazyLemon: Fixed, get the nautilus SRU | 18:22 |
| Laney | andyrock: Don't use get-env, that's an upstartism | 18:22 |
| andyrock | Laney: so what? | 18:22 |
| Laney | I don't exactly know what the systemd-ish way would be - it's a session vs. user thing | 18:22 |
| Laney | wait for pitti | 18:22 |
| Laney | so many trick or treaters around | 18:23 |
| * Laney hears some next door | 18:24 | |
| * Laney goes to hide in the cupboard | 18:24 | |
| Laney | ok, they went past | 18:25 |
| Laney | my sister was right when she said that a pumpkin in the window is the international sign | 18:25 |
| * Laney took ours away this morning | 18:25 | |
| Laney | andyrock: If you look at systemd-cgls you see that unity is under user@XXXX.service and not session-cX.scope - the session ones get that env var | 18:27 |
| Laney | basically things that get started by systemd don't | 18:27 |
| Laney | but you can't just set it for all systemd things since they might be under different logind sessions | 18:28 |
| * Laney doesn't know what the right answer is to that | 18:28 | |
| Laney | you need the super wizard (probably tomorrow) | 18:28 |
| willcooke | morning robert_ancell | 20:03 |
| robert_ancell | willcooke, hi | 20:03 |
| willcooke | night all! | 20:12 |
| dobey | hi robert_ancell | 20:14 |
| robert_ancell | dobey, hi | 20:14 |
| dobey | robert_ancell: what all is needed to be able to land the qt bindings for snapd-glib? | 20:15 |
| robert_ancell | dobey, me to finish them | 20:15 |
| dobey | robert_ancell: what all is missing? | 20:16 |
| robert_ancell | dobey, it is mostly the QML part being finished, and a few functions missing. It's lp:~robert-ancell/snapd-glib/qt | 20:16 |
| dobey | robert_ancell: any idea if it would be possible to get rid of the pkcon password entry requirement? | 20:20 |
| robert_ancell | dobey, if you use snapd-glib then there's a d-bus daemon that does it for you, is that what you mean? | 20:20 |
| dobey | robert_ancell: right, but it still pops up a pkcon dialog requiring me to enter my local password | 20:21 |
| robert_ancell | dobey, as far as I can tell that's the intended behaviour from the snap team. Obviously you could override that with PK configuration | 20:21 |
| robert_ancell | If you don't pop up a dialog then any U1 account can install snaps on any system, which doesn't make sense | 20:22 |
| dobey | well that's entirely true, because just having a u1 account doesn't get you logged in to the system itself | 20:23 |
| robert_ancell | dobey, I mean if I jump onto your machine when your not looking then I can use my account to install any snap. snapd can't validate the user account because it only allows root to get the macaroon | 20:24 |
| dobey | and "guest" local account shouldn't be allowed to install anything at all, even if they have a u1 account, really | 20:24 |
| robert_ancell | dobey, right, that's where the PK policy can decide | 20:25 |
| dobey | robert_ancell: well if you're already logged in, i can just go install any (free) snap anyway, too | 20:26 |
| dobey | i don't need a separate u1 account for that | 20:26 |
| dobey | or if you have a terminal open where you've recently validated yourself with sudo, then i can do a lot more than just install snaps | 20:27 |
| robert_ancell | sure | 20:28 |
| robert_ancell | I'll let the security team decide if the policy should be changed | 20:28 |
| dobey | and it's not entirely clear how an all-snaps personal image will work with regards to the local users problem, either | 20:28 |
| dobey | you can't even boot the snappy core image without logging in to a u1 account right now | 20:29 |
| robert_ancell | dobey, I suspect the all-snaps image will have different policy in general | 20:30 |
| dobey | yeah, just trying to find a nice balance in the UX across devices | 20:33 |
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