[01:06] https://guernseyhelp.sure.com/hc/en-gb/articles/211829329-NEW-60MB-BROADBAND- :O [01:07] daftykins: It sure makes a difference to the apt-get's [01:08] well, i'm already on 40Mb :> [01:08] i don't think my line syncs at anything over 50Mb [01:09] oh my Tux it has 10Mb up! [01:09] i'm sold ;D [01:11] yeh the uprate is nice - I'm on 70/5 [01:12] oof [01:12] my parents are still on the 20/1 ADSL2, i really feel the pain when uploading snaps [01:20] not sure if i should play it safe and check my line sync before i commit to upgrading :> [01:20] only getting 50 of the 60 would be a shame, but i'd rather the upload [07:55] [08:41] morning boys and girls. [08:42] brobostigon, morning girl [08:42] morning amorphous green blob. [08:43] h eh [08:45] i said heh here to, to being called a girl. [08:46] morning [08:47] morning popey [08:48] * brobostigon found an interesting game last week, ryzom, an mmo. [08:50] name is familiar, but I've not played it [08:52] its entirly oss too. [08:53] * SebthreeBQM10HD found a interesting game in the Ubuntu Touch apps store last week :d [08:53] its name is? [08:53] Asteroides [08:53] but how that version of it is done [08:53] is what makes it interesting [08:53] no lives! [08:54] one life and that is it [08:54] no lives [08:54] and then how you like control the ship to etc [08:54] on a touch device hmm [09:19] Morning all [09:19] Good morning all! Happy Monday, and happy Hallowe'en! 😃 👻 🎃 [09:19] hello. anyone tried a piano learning app/site called skoove? [09:20] no [09:20] JamesTait, indeed and are you going to dress up as a witch ? :d [09:21] SebthreeBQM10HD, what makes you think I need to dress up? 😝 [09:22] popey, today is day two of the Ubuntu Touch callender bug :D [09:22] que? [09:22] popey, so yesterday we had two 30's [09:22] someone reported htis bug acstaully by the way [09:22] today it has the 31st in green, but on the Tuesday not Monday [09:22] oh, i dont see that because i'm on rc-proposed where it's already fixed [09:23] same issue for next year, where [09:23] popey, oh ok it's fixed [09:23] well it was interesting :d [09:23] but yes a bug really [09:23] hmm so won't have this next year then or shoudn't next October [09:23] what caused that anyway ? [09:24] dunno, not looked at the code [09:24] popey, also what's new in that omgubuntu video [09:25] it showed some new unity 8 feature stuff [09:25] but I don't see what's new! [09:25] what am I missing ? [09:25] maybe files could be opended up from the left bar and that's new, I don't know [09:29] not seen it [09:31] popey, when do you think the libertine app store will be there :d [09:31] the graphical [09:31] the easy to install stuff [09:51] morning [10:10] confession:i don't like clicky keyboards. [10:10] noise pollution [10:15] :< [10:15] i wish they had the click feel but not the noise. [10:15] still, i have one at work and one at home, so i'm that guy. [10:16] what you do in your own home is ok [10:17] but don't tell us about it in a public channel ;-) [10:17] "I'll have none of your pre-versions here meladdo!" [10:18] that's a hybrid quote from multiple sources that I forget [10:18] meladdo is obviously rimmer [10:18] but the rest I think is a misquote from rising damp? [10:19] vegans, arch users, clicky keyboards, cold brew coffee, [10:19] cold coffee?! [10:19] that's all kinds of wrong! [10:19] hipsters [10:20] tis "different" so its better [10:20] "I like my coffee how I like my men" [10:21] https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/oct/29/nitro-cold-brews-energise-coffee-shops [10:21] hah the guardian shoudl be on that list too [10:39] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37800623?ocid=socialflow_twitter [10:40] what's the betting that network rail embed the details of the journey onto the card rather than an ID number which would get matched to the database [10:44] oic, the magstrip is dead on them, but staff still let you through [11:02] Simple enough the thwart I'd have thought. Print a bar/qr-code onto the ticket that duplicates the mag. Staff can just scan that. [11:03] Or is just a cryto-sig to prove the ticket is genuine. [11:03] Take the start, destination; GPG; bish-bash-bosh; job's a good 'un. [11:03] Can I have my millions foe the government contract, please? === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi [12:55] no millions for TwistedLucidity, you don't wear the right school tie... [13:47] talktalk, my broadband provider also offer a free sim card, similar to what i curretly get from giffgaff [13:47] anyone tried it? [13:47] could save me in the region of £90 per year [13:50] hah, I just found a 64MB Sony Memorystick [13:51] that was another attempt by sony to proprietarise (that's a real word, honest, guv') flash memory [13:52] is it purple [13:52] yup [13:52] lilac [13:52] mauve [13:52] ugh [13:59] appeals to female users... marketing said so... [14:01] My first digital camera was one of those sony ones with memory sticks... http://www.steves-digicams.com/f55.html [14:02] a whole 2.6MP [14:03] maybe 3.3, something like that [14:03] as much as i dislike propietary standards i did hear of memory sticks surviving washing machines and other hazards that killed lesser memory storage devices [14:03] the lens flipped over so you could take "selfies" :) [14:04] my mum had her credit card pwned. a replacement sent, and the new one pwned [14:05] http://imgur.com/a/Bd0Ts selfie I took 15 years ago on a Sony Cybershot :) [14:05] that was quick service by the thieves... if only we could make them work in the service industry... [14:06] she said she only entered it on paypal and amazon and shopping at sainsbury, and petrol at sainsbury [14:07] and not typed the number into the friendly popup asking 'is your credit card number secure?' :-P [14:07] i asked her, allegedly no [14:08] and no indian men calling from mikrozoft [14:08] is it new shiny card with skimmable rfid chip? [14:14] when do the merry-cans vote? [14:16] the 8th according to teh googs [14:17] so next... tuesday [14:17] (I had to look it up :-P) [14:17] talk about loaded question: https://twitter.com/omgubuntu/status/793094547295305728 [14:19] can amazon prime member borrow kindle books for free? [14:19] "A Prime membership includes over a million ebooks at no additional cost" [14:19] can't find the ability though [14:27] Books can only be borrowed and read on Kindle devices (works with all Kindle generations). ...ah [14:42] This is why I try to only buy non drm'd books [14:43] Or deDRM them once I have bought them [14:49] this is borrowing as part of prime [14:50] I expect then it's under the ebook app / library bit, I can look in a bit [14:53] has anyone tried the re-release of KDE1? [14:54] i can't see it in the kindle app [14:56] doesn't this require Kindle Unlimited? [14:58] May do, I remember reading about it now [14:58] Slight price increase on prime, same as the music probably, get a million tracks on prime, pay £3.99 extra and you get 10 million [15:14] Managed to get my GPD Win all happy and running Linux properly, http://n.ǣ.cc/nextcloud/index.php/s/XlXkAq0XHiaaBKz :) [15:15] 5.5" laptop is fun :) [15:15] popey, click your amazon prime icon at top of amazon page [15:15] and it shows what you should get [15:15] its not kindle unlimited but lets you check out 1 book per month [15:16] also, i recommend the film "the double" by richard aoyade [15:16] free on prime [16:15] foobarry: http://imgur.com/a/kzQwn que? [16:35] popey: http://imgur.com/a/258k1 [16:35] The Kindle Owners' Lending Library is available for Amazon Prime members—paid Amazon Prime, paid Amazon Student, 30-day free trial, and customers receiving a free month of Prime benefits with a Fire tablet—who own a Kindle e-reader, Fire tablet, or Fire phone, and features hundreds of thousands of titles. Books borrowed from the Kindle Owners' Lending Library have no due dates and can be delivered [16:35] to other Kindle e-readers, Fire tablets, or Fire phones registered to your Amazon account [16:36] i see no way to get to that page [16:36] https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200757120 [16:36] aha, found it [16:37] diddledan: Apple are so bad at timers on progress bars, installing the latest OS it said "about 7 minutes remaining" - it's been 10 and still says 4 [16:37] seems you have to own a kindle [16:37] not kindle app [16:37] "Kindle or Fire device owners with an Amazon Prime membership can borrow popular Kindle books at no extra cost" [16:37] i have neither device, so not available [18:00] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2016/10/msg00008.html cya PPC [18:02] ah interesting, flipped just to el [18:06] yey https://blog.kaspersky.com/fantom-ransomware/12891/ [18:07] I'm so glad these guys are super helpful - makes me feel safe that I can decrypt my files when they accidentally get encrypted [18:08] none of my clients have been daft enough so far, touch wood... [18:10] the wood is your lart in case they do something that stupid. isn't it? :-) [18:10] lart? [18:10] live-action role-play toy? [18:10] Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool. [18:11] ah har [18:11] http://catb.org/jargon/html/L/LART.html [18:11] * diddledan readjusts zmoylan-pi's attitude. quite hard. [18:12] i have a close friend who triggered one of those police warning signs on their pc, demanding money to unlock [18:12] but it was a fake thing, didn't actually encrypt anything [18:12] ouch [18:12] phew [18:12] rollercoaster, those two lines, right? [18:12] aye. [18:12] he brought it round sheepishly, "help!" [18:13] managed to fix it with extreme prejudice [18:13] also, informed him that downloading music from limewire wasn't a good plan [18:13] does that mean wiping it for ubuntu? ;) [18:13] even my dad had some malware yesterday.. he'd installed a Chrome extension promising to re-enable Java support [18:13] It was adware instead [18:13] no, you install os/2 as they deserve punishment :-) [18:13] !darthv622 The Girls - Emma Cline(epub).rar [18:13] void__: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [18:14] err. way? [18:14] wat..? [18:14] dude, waaaaay. [18:14] someone is downloading epubs... [18:14] void__: off you go, back to naughtynet [18:14] and is now logged for eternity at logs.ubuntu.com [18:14] :D [18:15] err, https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ [18:15] nearly got the linky right [18:15] could have been worse... could have been looking for a copy of 50 shades... :-P [18:15] still wiating for a yodel delivery. their tracking is garbage [18:16] foobarry: it'll never arrive! [18:16] on the contrary i could follow mohammed in his DPD van earlier [18:16] amazon delivery, supposed to arrive today on prime [18:17] halloween toys? [18:18] digital piano [18:19] look on the bright side. all the halloween stuff will on clearance tomorrow and it'll be crimbo music and merchandise for next 2 months solid [18:19] yodel site is 2 days out of date. amazon say its with courier though [18:19] zmoylan-pi: noooooooooooooooooooo! [18:19] and in 2 months and 1 day... easter \o/ [18:22] ooo yodel tweets an replies is depressing reading [18:24] the courier? [18:24] they're a nihilist and it's all existential angst? :-) [18:25] or they're an american company and it's all happy perky huggy smiley silliness... [18:27] zmoylan-pi: But Aldi have already had chocolate reindeer for weeks [18:30] http://hub.dyn.com/dyn-blog/dyn-analysis-summary-of-friday-october-21-attack [18:30] yes but they're not in the important aisle penguin42... [18:30] but tomorrow they'll be everywhere [18:38] executive summary "bad stuff by bad people" [18:42] zmoylan-pi: Which aisle exactly is more important than the chocolate aisle? [18:48] the welding gear and steel toe capped boots aisle? for repairing pcs... :-) [18:57] staring out of the window for a delivery on trick or treat night is a bit awkward [19:01] foobarry: did they mistake you for a zombie? [19:01] do they not have a cut off time for deliveries... most places in ireland close early on halloween [19:02] Ubuntu 14.04 seems to have a /lib/systemd/system, but it doesn't have systemd, why does this folder exist? is there a way to make use of systemd init scripts in 14.04? [19:07] 14.04 does use bits of systemd [19:07] just not as pid 1 [19:07] (like it does in 16.04) [19:08] I see, can I launch a systemd script in 14.04 somehow? [19:08] it seems to lack systemctl [19:09] * daftykins wonders why you would fight it [19:09] most deliveries are done by work from home guys out of the back of their car nowadays [19:09] or is that just hermes [19:09] amazon own people do that too [19:09] fruitlessly tweeting the yodellers [19:10] they are asking for irrelvant info [19:10] strangely their stuff is carried by a local courier who handles UPS stuff too [19:10] gave full address and tracking number. why they asking for my name [19:10] i had a UPS card for my missed nespresso coffee capsules delivery [19:10] it has all the phone numbers crossed out and a Guernsey one written in biro :D [19:10] in other news we caught 4 mice at a spawn point in 2 days [19:11] ah you just wanna put a closed crate down over that ;) [19:11] PETA might pop by though, i suppose [19:11] its a proper tom and jerry mouse hole [19:11] hahaha no way [19:11] neverseen one like it irl [19:11] are you lacking a Tom? [19:12] or an acme catalog of dynamite, rocket powered rollerskates to take them out? [19:14] https://tech.slashdot.org/story/16/10/31/1827219/google-discloses-exploited-windows-vulnerability-10-days-after-telling-microsoft [19:14] dirty cow for MS [19:14] YESSS can outside [19:14] van [19:14] :) [19:14] is the delivery a big bag of sweets? [19:15] or a pumpkin? [19:15] SWINES they delivered a tiny package for my wife [19:15] not the piano [19:16] amazon guy too. [19:16] you're getting an entire piano delivered by someone out of the back of his ford mondeo estate? [19:16] bought on amazon but delivered by yodel [19:16] i expect it to be attached to his roof [19:16] the guy was so confused. i dashed out and saw a tiny package and was crestfallen [19:17] a courier van stopped outside my house once, i went to the front door and opened it waiting "i'm not here for you!" he shouted :( [19:17] hehehe [19:17] the eternal impatience of a geek [19:18] i dunno, i actually always go with the free shipping since i know the waiting is the best bit :P [19:19] got indigestion from facing forward to eat but looking 90 degrees right out of the window === christel is now known as ghostel [19:21] http://imgur.com/s7bJxZJ [19:21] real life mouse hole [19:24] wowzer! [19:24] that wall has only been there 1 year [19:25] our house has ventilation bricks underneath. the mice love it [19:25] youch [19:25] dunno about you guys but i'm feeling seriously thrown by the time, feels like it should be 10pm easy [19:25] foobarry: Your problem is it's a mains powered mouse [19:26] ok you need a block of cheese, some string and a frying pan... [19:27] and a pint [19:33] debian 9 drops powerpc architecture [19:33] ja linked it earlier [19:33] Well they'll still compile it, if it compiles [19:33] but they won't require packages to build on it anymore [19:34] foobarry: Not quite [19:34] foobarry: They've moved to having little endian powerpc [19:35] 64-bit powerpc [19:35] too bad about the old macs ;) [19:36] my poor doggy is scared of fireworks [19:36] foobarry: Well stop strapping it to rockets then! [19:36] foobarry: meh, doggy. _I'm_ scared of fireworks! [19:44] * daftykins locks diddledan's flap [19:44] sorted [20:07] now on yodel web chat. i want to die [20:07] it's not a bot because they just did a typo. or was it deliberate [20:15] https://i.imgur.com/SpuHTmu.jpg - nice little joke on Apple [20:15] lol [20:15] "Looking at your tracking, I'm sorry to say it is unclear why your parcel wasn't sent out for delivery today." [20:16] SWINES! [20:16] * daftykins oinks [20:16] jokers [20:19] “If for some reason our delivery promise hasn’t been met, customers can call or e-mail and we can extend them an extra month of Prime membership,” confirms Amazon’s Julie Law. “But we don’t allow people to abuse that.” [20:40] a lady whose laptop i've been looking at, this is the external HDD she was given with her backed up data on - https://www.dropbox.com/s/igr7hir56rwjce4/backup_disk.PNG?dl=0 [20:40] it's not one of those externals with a virtual optical drive that has encryption software on, so i can only imagine that the small local company she had work on it are entirely incompetent [20:47] oh weird, this other clients' macbook actually reads it... [20:47] did they dd the internal (80GB) disk to it? [20:47] leaving the rest unallocated? [20:47] no, the contents showing on the mac is all her user data, but just files, no directories [20:48] hah [20:48] plus used size is 113GB, so how Windows sees what's in the above image is a mystery to me O_O [20:49] daftykins: Something like a mismatched GPT and DOS partitioning? [20:49] claims to be FAT32, yet if Windows doesn't read it, it must be using some completely weird cluster size or some such to be invisible [20:50] i'm gonna run this one by parted or something yeah, seriously weird [20:56] partition table: loop [20:56] O_O [20:58] now ubuntu shows the files *and* folders [21:00] must be some weird result of whatever which wrote this as FAT32 despite the capacity [21:05] ok nope win7 reads it fine, it's just win10 then :P [21:07] weird [21:08] win10 shouldn't see it any diff, I'd have thunked. I guess they broke something [21:09] yeah! just confirmed on my laptop which runs 10 too, no go there either [22:46] humings is a great series [22:47] o0 [23:03] daftykins: channel 4 [23:03] second season started yesterday [23:04] ah, no broadcast TV here, chief [23:04] I didn't watch it on broadcast :-p [23:06] I really don't understand the benefit of using a browser other than safari on an iThingie. Mozilla just emailed me to let me know users love firefox on iOS. it doesn't make sense to me 'cos all third-party browsers are just a wrapper around the webview provided by the OS [23:06] * daftykins ponders [23:06] actually i suppose ITV and channel 4 on-demand services are free, right? since they're ad supported [23:06] yup [23:07] last time i looked channel 4's only gave really bad SD content [23:07] yeah they're still only SD on all4 (the name of ch4's OD) [23:07] that's AFAIK [23:08] i've been a good boy since the rule change and not even touched anything iPlayer [23:08] what do the rules say for you islanders in regards to the beeb? [23:09] nothing new to the mainland, gotta hold a TV license [23:09] er nothing different, even [23:09] bah [23:09] well i know they have no way of knowing, but i'm just not fussed either way [23:09] that means there's no benefit to being foreigners?! well that's sucky [23:11] I thought the whole point of you lot was to make a mockery of our financial rules!! [23:11] I want my money back! [23:12] Just got back from Trick or Treating. We now have enough candy to last us until January next year. [23:13] or tomorrow morning if Hélene has her way [23:13] She's not big on candy. She'll have a couple and that'll be enough for a day or two. [23:13] diddledan: me too, i think they lost the memo :( [23:13] heh [23:14] But my youngest, yes.. if she had her way, it'll last less than 48 hours. [23:14] :-p good girl! [23:14] could be a good lesson to permit it ;) [23:16] that dashcam video on the BBC news site of the guy that killed a mother and 3 kids due to looking down at his phone = :/ [23:16] daftykins, very sad. [23:17] However, I hope more people install these dashcams [23:17] I have one [23:17] I had one idiot swerve into me just the other day [23:17] oh, proper damage? [23:18] No, I managed to move out of the way just in time. [23:18] He missed me by an inch [23:18] Had the kids in the car with me at the time [23:18] guy in another channel has kubuntu 16.10 on an acer laptop with intel core 3 series (ivybridge) graphics and tab rendering/update issues in chrome apparently btw [23:18] in case anyone has encountered this [23:18] seems wierd that on some boots he'll have 'modeset' referred to as the active driver in the Xorg log and other times intel [23:24] lol: https://twitter.com/Brett_Shavers/status/793231982406664192 [23:25] wow wix.com in trouble over GPL contravention [23:26] yup [23:26] against WordPress [23:26] ctrl+F4 o0 [23:27] It's not like WP has ever stolen code before. [23:28] if you read about it on theregister, then they might have got the story from me 'cos I emailed their tips address about it :-) [23:28] no wai [23:29] i once mailed in a tip, got asked for a clarification on one point, then ignored [23:29] totally wasn't "So, you're supreme ruler of Guernsey?" [23:30] I remember WP when it didn't have a password reset function. I wrote it and submitted it. The code was accepted for the next release, I was never credited. So $%^& wordpress. [23:34] perhaps you didn't outline your terms! [23:34] time for bed, g'night \o [23:34] they're MUCH better at giving credit [23:35] now** [23:39] To give you an idea when I contributed, I hadn't even met my wife yet. [23:42] Heck, I still remember when it was forked from b2 [23:57] huh, so wix actually is based on wordpress? [23:58] ali1234: no, it's their mobile app that is in question [23:58] oh, okay