=== meetingology` is now known as meetingology [05:18] Laney, andyrock: not sure what you mean with "getenv", but you shold just use your normal process env usually -- what are you trying to do? (I'm on a sprint this week, better email me with full context) [05:19] andyrock, Laney: "systemctl --user show-environment" shows the full env, in case you need that for something [05:44] hi [06:14] Morning hikiko [06:14] morning duflu :-) [06:14] * duflu enjoys the fun of having wiped his dev machine and then found the current 17.04 install image can't install [06:20] ouch [06:33] Install image? :) [06:41] RAOF: Bah dyslexia. I mean ISOs [06:41] Both the ones available fail (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1637985) [06:41] Ubuntu bug 1637985 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "zesty install fails - "An attempt to configure apt to install additional packages from the CD failed."" [Critical,Triaged] [06:41] duflu: Oh, I know. But installing from ISO? [06:42] RAOF: Yep, always [06:42] sed -i s/yakkety/zesty/g /etc/apt/sources.list FTW :P [06:42] I prefer to clean out my system periodically and start fresh [07:21] moin!!! [07:22] morning duflu, RAOF, hikiko :) [07:22] Morning desrt [07:22] morning desrt RAOF :) [07:24] * desrt takes a look at 538 and hides her eyes [07:25] Americans: DO NOT FUCK THIS UP [08:45] desrt, hikiko pitti Morning [08:46] hey flexiondotorg pitti :) [08:46] hey flexiondotorg hikiko desktoper [08:46] hey seb128 ! [08:46] seb128, o/ [08:47] just saying hey and dropping from IRC, moving to work outside, we have workers here, back in 10 minutes or so [08:58] morning all [08:58] hi willcooke :) [09:02] moning! [09:02] pitti: The XDG_SESSION_ID not being available in user scope [09:02] unity wants to connect to logind to know when to unlock the session [09:03] hi Laney, did you manage to ward off the evil sprits spirits? [09:04] willcooke: you mean the local children right? [09:04] Laney, :D indeed [09:04] I sat in darkness in a cupboard until the noise went away [09:04] very wise [09:05] hey Laney willcooke [09:05] Laney, I had boy #1 deal with it, he seems to like it [09:05] morning seb128 [09:05] my sister told me that having a pumpkin in the window is a sign for them to come [09:05] I had no idea about that [09:05] so I removed the pumpkin and it seemed to work! [09:05] good job :-) [09:05] Morning willcooke Laney [09:05] I certainly never looked out for pumpkins back in the day [09:05] But now you'll have bad juju all year [09:05] morning flexiondotorg [09:06] just terrorised every house I could find [09:06] hi seb128 et flexiondotorg [09:06] what's up? [09:06] seems like summer is over [09:07] looks cold and wet today here indeed [09:07] we still had a very nice and sunny day yesterday, seems to change today [09:07] was enjoying the fallen leaves [09:07] now they will be sludge [09:08] yeah [09:08] I went to my tennis group lesson yesterday evening, getting cold in the evening [09:09] it was also maybe not the best move to get over that cold, but oh well, at least I had a good night and it's worth today [09:09] the call of the ball is strong [09:09] indeed! [09:10] Laney, was halloween already a thing in the u.k when you were young? [09:10] it's becoming popular in France but it's only taking up since a few years [09:10] seb128: yeah [09:10] people would have sweets in anyway [09:10] not so much on decorations and stuff [09:11] maybe the pumpkin thing is new [09:11] * seb128 shakes the fist to the U.S marketing [09:11] I like it anyway, the kids actually respected it which meant I was left alone \o/ [09:11] :-) [09:11] we had to go round to next door to collect a parcel [09:11] she looked nervous when answering the door [09:11] lol [09:12] oh, meeting is one hour earlier today! [09:12] * seb128 needs to get used to DST [09:13] cool :) I ll be there! [09:13] only 30mins after the end of my day [09:14] hikiko, you have a strict schedule it seems :-) [09:14] hahaha [09:14] there's a lot of netflix to watch [09:14] you have to be disciplined! [09:15] :| [09:15] indeed [09:15] I have to go to the pool, that's all :p [09:15] that almost works on firefox for me now [09:15] it asked me to enable DRM [09:15] but didn't actually load the player [09:16] I hate drm, I only watch netflix on tv [09:16] it's certainly easier that way [09:16] I don't want to enable them [09:16] * Laney chromecasts it from phone [09:16] phone is a lost cause anyway [09:18] chrisccoulson, morning! Are you free for a very quick chat about some Firefox patches from Mozilla for menus? [09:23] Laney, inching closer to improved notebook and frames [09:24] There are many edges cases, Firefox being the most awkward to accommodate. [09:28] Can't firefox start using the CSS more in line with the rest of GTK? [09:30] anyway, good luck [09:30] I guess other themes don't have this problem; probably there are some nickable tricks there [09:41] Laney, willcooke, flexiondotorg, seb128: hi :) [09:41] good morning desrt, how are you? [09:41] comfortable [09:41] and not sick! [09:41] are you back in NL? [09:42] * Laney nods desrt [09:43] hum [09:43] I've not been out of the .nl since we saw each others in DenHaag I think? [09:44] ah. i thought you were going to france after the sprint [09:44] we decided to swap weekends and went the one just before instead [09:45] ah. cool [09:45] Laney, So FF soft of is. There is an interaction between notebook and frames. Cleaning that up for GTK applications also remove the black bordering in FF. [09:45] but going back to France on saturday [09:45] going to spend a week there [09:45] Laney, But I agree, should have some specific selectors. [09:46] Laney, Well the recent regressions with Firefox are in every theme I've tested. [09:46] What I have here seem to be working. Just checking that fixing one area doesn't cause problems elsewhere. [09:47] going to be good to have gtk3 stable! [09:48] Then we get to complain about gtk4 :P [09:48] :-) [09:48] :) [09:48] and things like processes linking two versions in [09:48] i'm glad this all worked out and made most people happy in the end [09:48] you guys had some pretty negative initial reactions [09:49] that comment was about the gtk3 being stable part [09:49] gtk4 is going to be "fun" [09:49] :) [09:49] don't package it? [09:49] (semi-serious) [09:49] as Laney said, going to be fun with libs and versions mix [09:49] gnome's going to use it [09:50] that's not a problem for this cycle [09:50] let's see where things are for next [09:50] haha [09:50] * desrt shrugs [09:50] ideally we would delay that to after the LTS [09:50] but that might be a strech and people are likely going to push for it before [09:50] my suggestion: policy states that gtk4 (and therefore anything that depends on it) lives in universe [09:51] anything that goes in base image has to be a gtk3-using version [09:51] sensible [09:51] if people really need the bleeding edge gedit, they can install the gedit-gtk4 package and suffer [09:51] unsure how things are going to play out for e.g webkitgtk [09:51] webkit will do what they did before: gtk3 and gtk4 versions [09:51] I guess we are going to have lib builds for each [09:56] they can install snaps :) [09:56] true! [09:56] :-) [09:57] willcooke, speaking of which, did you hear from robert about the xenial g-s/snapd-glib SRU? [09:57] speaking of snaps [09:57] apparmor-based dbus filtering is .. useful [09:57] seb128, yeah, he's sorting it [09:57] great [09:57] 01/11 04:05:40 -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: snapd-glib (xenial-proposed/primary) [1.2-0ubuntu2~xenial2] [09:57] that one? [09:57] smells like it [09:58] it's supposed to be combined to a gnome-software one [09:58] but yeah, I guess that's part of it [09:58] I didn't see it because it's in New and my bookmark is on unapproved for SRUs [09:58] thanks Laney [09:59] willcooke, oh btw I resolved my geolocation issue, it was my own stupidity :-/ [09:59] nod [09:59] queuebot is the win [09:59] :-) [09:59] need an IRC proxy though [10:00] willcooke, I played some time ago with a firefox ext to trick the geoloc info to try to watch some tv replay program from another country [10:00] seb128, haaaaaaaa! Awesome [10:00] willcooke, which changed the provider config and let it like this even after unstalling it... [10:00] seb128, I think you owe qengho a beer ;P [10:01] yeah :p [10:01] well there was a real issue with the api key spam [10:01] but yeah, new key solved it [10:01] yeah, fair [10:01] woot [10:01] glad we got to the bottom of it [10:01] :-) [10:01] me too [10:01] sorry for the noise [10:01] qengho, good work! [10:03] pitti: can you teach/remind me how to get big_packages / blacklist updated when you're around please? [10:06] pitti: I can hack the configs in place, just wondering what the official way is (a juju set or something) [10:07] Trevinho, somebody debugged bug #1635625 and is pointing the issue to a commit of yours [10:07] bug 1635625 in unity (Ubuntu) "Some indicator icons are missing after unlocking the screen" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1635625 [10:09] pitti: Wait, I found "Rolling out new worker code" - so I just do this directly [10:25] * desrt hates the "n things that can come and go have to be merged into a single object, with efficient support for changes" problem [10:35] hi willcooke [10:35] hey chrisccoulson [10:35] Yeah, I started updating that patch ready for it to be reviewed upstream, and then got sidetracked before the sprint [10:36] chrisccoulson, will follow up in msg [11:27] sudo -u seb128 -i [11:27] seb128: got a minute to do some demotions? [11:28] please? === hikiko is now known as hikiko|ln [12:09] seb128: that was funny. === hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:07] Laney, sorry was at lunch, sure, which ones? [13:10] seb128: the New packages on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kvirc/+bug/1636804 [13:10] Ubuntu bug 1636804 in libparse-http-useragent-perl (Debian) "perl 5.24 demotions" [Unknown,Confirmed] [13:10] * Laney quickly puts blocks in [13:10] Laney, ok, doing that in a few minutes [13:11] merci [13:11] Laney, when you say "demotion" it's removing them from the release pocket to have them in proposed only? [13:11] or moving to universe? [13:12] demoting to proposed [13:12] k, what I though, thanks for confirming ;-) [13:12] hope this goes in today ._. [13:15] keep some fun for the rest of the cycle! [13:16] the fun is turning on autosync after that happens [13:16] /o\ [13:17] oh, we still didn't start autosyncing? [13:18] waiting for this [13:18] k, I guess it makes sense [13:19] would be bad if it got caught up with other transitions [13:19] enough random stuff as it is === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:37] * Laney lunchies [13:38] Laney, enjoy! [14:03] * flexiondotorg seeks out food [14:04] flexiondotorg, enjoy [14:30] * flexiondotorg returns [14:34] Mirv, hello, did you happen to have the logs of it crashing on U8? I dont recall testing it on U8 recently [14:35] * bschaefer may have messed up something there :) [14:35] it == sdl1.2 [14:50] looks like perl went in! [15:00] bschaefer: not right now, I did try gdb but didn't get anything meaningful besides libmirclient something [15:00] bschaefer: it's testable from the PPA regardless [15:00] Mirv, no worries! Ill attempt when i can [15:00] right, just need to make sure my U8 still works [15:00] and everything :) [15:03] Hi to all, if you could like to help in the Google Code In 2016 (GCI) this year as mentor, please help us adding your task to the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleCodeIn2016 [15:03] Laney, wooooot ;-) [15:03] indeed! [15:03] still those other removals to do [15:04] britney let them become uninstallable [15:04] might as well kick them out [15:05] Laney, I didn't close the lines on that launchpad bug btw, those complex pages are slow to load and the ajax doesn't work and it keeps timeouting, I gave up after a few tries [15:06] seb128: oh right, did you do them all? [15:06] yes [15:07] k, i'll wait for rmadison to agree and then close it [15:07] thanks! [15:13] yw! [15:30] hihi [15:30] #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-11-01 [15:30] Meeting started Tue Nov 1 15:30:20 2016 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:30] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-11-01 | Current topic: [15:30] hey desrt [15:30] Yay! [15:30] o/ [15:30] hello :) [15:30] Quite a few people out on (public) holiday [15:30] Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt, dgadomski (out), fjkong, flexiondotorg, happyaron(out), hikiko, laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark(hols), themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho(out), robert_ancell (out) [15:30] ya... everyone in germany, except me :p [15:31] o/ [15:31] isn't it a holiday in italy too? [15:31] hey [15:31] according to duolingo desrt is not a German yet [15:32] * desrt wonders if dual citizens get dual holidays [15:32] you wish [15:32] * hikiko becomes a citizen of the world [15:33] I expect andyrock is out, to lets start with..... [15:33] #topic attente === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-11-01 | Current topic: attente [15:33] finished the glib bindings for content-hub, needs review [15:33] finished clipboard support in gtk-mir, needs ^ [15:34] just had a good discussion with desrt re: the jhbuild snapcraft plugin, thanks desrt :D [15:34] copy AND paste? [15:34] yes! [15:34] what a world we live in today [15:34] the future is now [15:34] also fixing fcitx-qimpanel to allow local installation, it currently uses hard-coded paths everywhere [15:34] (eof) [15:35] good stuff, thanks attente [15:35] #topic desrt === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-11-01 | Current topic: desrt [15:35] - researched apparmor dbus filtering and also how flatpak does it [15:35] - figured out the protocol for secure communication between client and server of dconf proxy (although it won't initially be completely secure for flatpak users) [15:35] - started implementing [15:35] - looked at some possible ways to make jhbuilding for snaps work nicer, including bwrap, found a bwrap bug and worked around it [15:35] - will continue implementing proxy this week [15:35] - eof. [15:35] thanks a lot desrt [15:35] #topic dgadomski === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-11-01 | Current topic: dgadomski [15:35] In the desktop area I have been working on lp#1589401 and lp#1550983 this week. [15:35] #topic FJKong_ === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-11-01 | Current topic: FJKong_ [15:36] hi [15:36] bug1636249 drop patches from 3.22.0 [15:36] setup environment of sbuild, [15:36] yakkety and debian works, failed in zesty,test building blocked by this. [15:36] still trying to fix this [15:36] eof [15:36] thanks FJKong_ - please reach out to the team if you need help getting set up / fixed [15:37] #topic flexiondotorg === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-11-01 | Current topic: flexiondotorg [15:37] Hi [15:37] - LP: #1623856 and LP: #1623835 both appear to orignate from python3-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets, I will progress this soon. [15:37] Launchpad bug 1623856 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Updated gtk element means you need to specify a size on the details drop down or it is only 1 line high" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1623856 [15:37] Launchpad bug 1623835 in deja-dup (Ubuntu) "Updated gtk element means you need to specify a size on the details drop down or it is only 1 line high" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1623835 [15:37] - Packaged awf to assist with GTK theme debugging and upstreamed - https://launchpad.net/~flexiondotorg/+archive/ubuntu/awf [15:37] - Researched this weeks candidates for the Snap Upstream Blitz and updated their Trello board. [15:37] - Background reading, experimentation and testing for Unity8 and Libertine. [15:37] - Saturday afternoon project - https://github.com/flexiondotorg/mircapture [15:37] - Currently refactoring notebooks (tabs) and frames for Yakkety/Zesty [15:37] - Consitent notebooks in gedit, gnome-terminal, meld, pavucontrol and other edge cases. [15:37] - Also includes support for awesomebar and add-on tabs in Firefox > 49. LP: #1631208 and LP: #1624738 [15:37] Launchpad bug 1631208 in ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu) "Tabs in Firefox dialogs are not rendered (for add-on options & Certificate Viewer)" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1631208 [15:37] Launchpad bug 1624738 in ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu) "Firefox search and location boxes have black borders when unselected" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1624738 [15:37] - GTK theme fixes for Disks and Ubiquity in progress for Xenial. [15:37] eof [15:38] :) thanks flexiondotorg [15:38] #topic happyaron === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-11-01 | Current topic: happyaron [15:38] * Only Mon&Tue due to PTO all last week [15:38] * sunpinyin/open-gram: FTBFS fix, sync Debian [15:38] * network-manager Debian #841509 [15:38] * librime on armel wontfix'ed due to broken std::future [15:38] flexiondotorg, is deja-dup using aptdaemon widgets?! [15:38] Debian bug 841509 in network-manager "some types of devices should be ignored when forcing the online status" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/841509 [15:38] seb128, Yep. [15:38] weird [15:38] but alright! [15:38] #topic hikiko === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-11-01 | Current topic: hikiko [15:38] hello! [15:38] - had 3 days off [15:38] - fixed bug #1313446 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z61tQ6z41A) [15:38] - finalizing the branch ^ to submit the MP [15:38] - started working on replacing shadows with borders in low gfx mode [15:38] bug 1313446 in unity (Ubuntu) "window disappears on toggle shade" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1313446 [15:38] - have some old branches for review [15:38] EOF [15:39] thanks hikiko [15:39] #topic Laney === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-11-01 | Current topic: Laney [15:39] oh, oops, was inside cdimage [15:39] HI! [15:39] oh that wasn't actually slow [15:40] this is an underwhelming update [15:40] • Short week (off Friday) [15:40] • Can't remember doing anything other than perl this week (lots of packages/tests to fix) - but it migrated, so woot [15:40] • Going to turn autosync back on today [15:40] 😳 [15:40] :) thanks Laney [15:40] #topic qengho === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-11-01 | Current topic: qengho [15:40] * Fixing gyp/gn build changes in Chromium. About a dozen problems. Nearly done. [15:40] * ...then to release Cr 54. [15:40] * Adding GPG crypto sig checking for snapcraft sources. [15:40] * Helping Tor project with snap adoption. [15:40] EOF [15:41] thanks qengho [15:41] #topic seb128 === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-11-01 | Current topic: seb128 [15:41] • uploaded a snapd-glib packaging fix to zesty and yakkety to help with the g-s/snap/auth issue [15:41] • did some tweaks to hud-on-systemd changes and got that landed in zesty [15:41] • catching up with recent snappy discussions and started getting ready to work on the platform snap [15:41] • some archive admin work [15:41] • reinstalled my inspiron and spent some time tweaking my configs to be able to easily work on zesty while my main config is still on xenial [15:41] • had another look at geoloc not working in firefox, turned out to be my fault, doh! (I tried to trick some website a while ago to make them believe I was somewhere else and that left my config screwed) [15:41] • launchpad bugs triaging and some discussions/nagging about some of the bugs [15:41] [15:41] :) thanks seb128 [15:41] #topic TheMuso === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-11-01 | Current topic: TheMuso [15:41] * Continued working on bluetooth issues for Xenial/yakkety, focusing on bug 1574324. The fix for this is in the bag, but before I SRU it, I want to resolve another sisue relating to profile selection, which I am currently working out on xenial. I think it is a race condition, because when one freshly sets up a bluetooth device with hfp and a2dp support, one cannot select a2dp support, but after a pulse restart, it works. I even [15:41] tried with yakkety bluez and pulse in xenial. [15:41] * The fix for the above bug is now in zesty, and I've started working on other package updates for zesty, in particular the accessibility stack, so I can start testing it with Qt/Gtk under Mir in coming weeks. [15:41] bug 1574324 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "pulseaudio crashes when connecting to bluetooth headphones (due to ubuntu changes?)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1574324 [15:42] #topic tkamppeter === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-11-01 | Current topic: tkamppeter [15:44] - cups-filters: Released versions 1.11.5 and 1.11.6 with all the bug fixes of the last weeks, especially to make all working correctly with IPP Everywhere printers after the Sprint experience: Build system now supports cross-compiling without Ghostscript, Poppler utils, nad/or MuPDF on build machine, let filters look for utilities via $PATH, doc typos, page logging for IPP Everywhere printers, correct PWG Raster output without unprintable [15:44] margins, ... [15:44] - CUPS Snap: Implemented font support and it works now. First text jobs working through snap. [15:44] - Ghostscript: Upstream fix on PWG Raster output, so that a full page bitmap without removal of unprintable margins is generated. [15:44] - Prepared SRUs for cups-filters and Ghostscript on Yakkety to fix IPP Everywhere printer support. [15:44] - Bugs. [15:44] thanks tkamppeter [15:44] #topic Trevinho === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-11-01 | Current topic: Trevinho [15:45] · Added more tests and fixes to qmenumodel gvariant/qvariant converter [15:45] · Use new RadioMenu and ButtonMenu in unity8 [15:45] · Some tuning (memory/speed and look) to the Calendar indicator [15:45] . Use new calendar features in u8 (support for event days and week numbers) [15:45] · Fixed the SliderMenu height and GroupMessage count color [15:45] · Fixed a libido (indicator-datetime in u7) crash and SRUed [15:45] · Fixed some unity8 launcher weak tests [15:45] · Some more work in snappyfying electron apps [15:45] #topic robert_ancell === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-11-01 | Current topic: robert_ancell [15:45] - snapd-qt binding work [15:45] - unity-greeter updates [15:45] #topic AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-11-01 | Current topic: AOB [15:45] Anyone got news? [15:45] GNOME 3.22 is in Zesty. Two major packages still at 3.20 are gnome-terminal ( bug 1636666 ) and nautilus ( bug 1635988 ) [15:45] bug 1636666 in vte2.91 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] pcre2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1636666 [15:45] Oh, I'm on PTO again on Monday [15:45] bug 1635988 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Update nautilus to 3.22" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1635988 [15:45] nautilus 3.22 still needs a bit more work. Help is appreciated with that [15:45] GTK+ 3.22 (LTS) deprecated a bunch of stuff that will be dropped in GTK+ 4; there may be more deprecations (they added several in the recent 3.22.2 stable release) [15:46] EOF [15:46] :) thanks jbicha - will look for someone to assist with that ^ [15:47] thanks jbicha for the work [15:47] * seb128 read those and see bug #1632027 [15:47] bug 1632027 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1632027 [15:47] shrug, we disabled that and didn't bring it back before release? :-( [15:47] I think we should deal with regressions from previous cycles before doing more version updates [15:49] well I'm trying to be careful to not add more regressions [15:49] thanks for that [15:50] still I think we are having the wrong mentality there [15:50] we focus on new versions before quality and accept regressions [15:50] but that's probably not a debate to have in the meeting [15:50] willcooke, I think we can wrap up there? [15:50] yeah, lets end the meeting and can carry on withthat [15:51] Oh, I wrote this but it popped up in the middle of jbicha's update... [15:51] I'm on pto on Monday [15:51] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently [15:51] Meeting ended Tue Nov 1 15:51:23 2016 UTC. [15:51] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2016/ubuntu-desktop.2016-11-01-15.30.moin.txt [15:51] saw that [15:51] enjoy! [15:51] thanks all [15:51] seb128: did you read the Ars review? http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/10/ubuntu-16-10-convergence-is-in-a-holding-pattern-consistencys-here-instead/ [15:51] bye people :) happy tuesday evening! [15:52] hikiko, have a nice evening [15:52] jbicha, no, reading it now though [15:52] the stability is appreciated but some users miss having new stuff too [15:53] "The biggest and best news to arrive with 16.10 is probably the move to Linux kernel 4.8." [15:54] sure, users and reviews like new shiny [15:54] but then you use it daily and you appreciate when things don't bug ;-) [15:55] Everyone talks about us reducing our maintenance costs by dropping patches, but this is what happens when you do that [15:56] I wanted to attend the meeting but I forgot the time change [15:56] hi all: E: Couldn't download dists/zesty/main/binary-amd64/Packages [15:56] XD [15:56] full log here: [15:56] http://paste.ubuntu.com/23412018/ [15:57]