[00:47] <marshallbethmars> hola alguien ahi
[00:47] <marshallbethmars> alguien aqui
[00:47] <marshallbethmars> que me conteste
[00:47] <marshallbethmars> alguien que me hable
[00:52] <marshallbethmars> alguien aqui
[02:38] <tim> hello
[03:30] <Guest74287> I have just joinedd the beutiful world of linux and I am very happy. Though I need some assistance. I have a dell laptop. All multimedia keys work except brightness multimedia keys.
[03:30] <Guest74287> I hope if anyone of you can help me.
[04:44] <ren> Hello, I cannot copy anything to my USB anymore. The problem doesn't exist with another distribution so it is not related to my USB drives.
[04:49] <ren> I'd like to do a backup of all my files but now I am cannot copy or move any of my files. Not sure what causes this problem and hope anyone could help out.
[06:08] <alkisg> ren: what's the output of: sudo fdisk -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:12] <ren> http://termbin.com/im8w
[06:14] <alkisg> ren: when you ran that command, did you have the usb stick inserted?
[06:14] <ren> no, i try again with usb inserted
[06:16] <ren> http://termbin.com/8xpe
[06:17] <alkisg> OK, now what's the output of  this? grep sdb /proc/mounts
[06:18] <ren> it doesn't show here in hexchat..
[06:19] <alkisg> OK, now run this: udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdb1
[06:19] <ren> i cannot paste it
[06:19] <alkisg> What was the output of that?
[06:19] <ren> Error mounting /dev/sdb1: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.UDisks2.Error.AlreadyMounted: Device /dev/sdb1 is already mounted at `/media/martin/D9DC-0B6B'.
[06:20] <alkisg> OK, now run this: caja /media/martin/D9DC-0B6B
[06:20] <alkisg> A window should appear with your stick contents
[06:20] <ren> yes
[06:21] <alkisg> So it doesn't appear that anything is wrong with your stick or its mounting
[06:21] <alkisg> We didn't do anything at all, we just checked where it was mounted
[06:21] <ren> mhm yeah
[06:21] <ren> i see
[06:21] <ren> i can tell you what i did the day before
[06:21] <ren> maybe it helps to reconstruct what went wrong
[06:22] <ren> https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/how-to-run-eset-nod32-for-linux-in-ubuntu-mate-16-04-or-16-10/9733
[06:23] <ren> I tried to install ESET and make the file executable by enabling it in the context menu properties
[06:24] <ren> the installer appeared but it didn't proceed and another window appeared along with it and "recommended" to install something related to PyPar2 which I did (without knowing what it is)
[06:24] <ren> that two things were missing on the system related to PyPar2
[06:25] <ren> so I installed that and it seems as a result of this, I cannot copy any files to USBs anymore
[06:25] <alkisg> Can you copy files using that window that just opened?
[06:27] <ren> no, it says: error while copying to "D9DC-0B6B". The destination is read-only.
[06:27] <ren> this happens to all USB drives I insert
[06:27] <alkisg> OK let's try this:
[06:27] <alkisg> sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[06:27] <ren> and all of these work without problems in another distro
[06:27] <alkisg> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[06:28] <alkisg> sudo touch /mnt/test
[06:28] <alkisg> What's the output of these commands?
[06:28] <alkisg> and sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[06:29] <ren> all of them produce no output at all, also no error messages
[06:29] <alkisg> Then you just wrote a file called test to the usb stick
[06:29] <alkisg> So it's not read only
[06:30] <ren> oh i see, nice
[06:30] <ren> in caja: if i go to properties > permissions
[06:31] <ren> file access is set to: --
[06:31] <ren> for all groups, owner, group and others
[06:31] <alkisg> That's because fat32 doesn't support permissions
[06:31] <ren> and i cannot change it
[06:31] <alkisg> It's a windows file system, not the linux one, ext4.
[06:31] <alkisg> (actually, a dos file system)
[06:32] <ren> but yesterday I was still able to copy files to this USB
[06:33] <ren> in fact, none of my USB - even those formatted with other file systems, don't allow copying to it from caja
[06:34] <ren> i just tried the same USB in another distro, and i can copy files onto it
[06:34] <ren> because the permissions allow writing access
[06:35] <ren> so it seems to me a problem with caja
[06:35] <ren> not sure what I can do now
[06:36] <ren> somehow the default settings of caja were overwritten by what I did yesterday
[06:41] <ren> do you have any other idea what I could do to get the default caja settings back?
[06:51] <alkisg> ren, if eset puts udev rules to change the mount permissions, then you need to uninstall eset
[06:51] <alkisg> If you don't know how to do that, contact the eset company
[06:51] <alkisg> To see the mount options, it's that "grep sdb /proc/mounts" command that I said in the beginning
[06:52] <alkisg> You can compare that with e.g. another distro, or an ubuntu live cd
[06:52] <ren> the problem is that eset is not even installed
[06:53] <alkisg> It did get a chance to mess up your system, didn't it?
[06:53] <alkisg> Try this:
[06:53] <ren> i am not sure if it was eset, i rather think it is the stuff i installed later
[06:53] <ren> the pypar2 thing
[06:54] <alkisg> I can't imagine why a compression library would mess with mount options
[06:57] <ren> I just checked some of my folders like documents, downloads, etc. (not on usb)
[06:57] <ren> and properties shows that the permissions options are globally changed
[06:57] <ren> no file access under owner, group, others
[06:58] <ren> so it seems that it looks like the eset installation "hangs"
[06:58] <ren> and keeps "allow executing file as program" active, thereby preventing any file access
[06:58] <alkisg> You mean that you cannot write files to your desktop?
[06:59] <ren> I can, but the context menus of properties strangely all show "--" for file access
[07:01] <ren> and the "allow executing file as program" is active in all folders
[07:02] <alkisg> All these are normal
[07:02] <alkisg> Directories have the "x" bit set because it means "allow users to see their contents", it's not related to execution
[07:03] <alkisg> ren, remove your usb stick, then insert it again, then type this:
[07:04] <alkisg> cat /proc/mounts | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:05] <ren> http://termbin.com/mwju
[07:05] <ren> wait
[07:05] <ren> need to insert
[07:06] <ren> http://termbin.com/vlyl
[07:07] <ouroumov_> Could the USB drives have been added to fstab with ro somehow?
[07:07] <alkisg> It doesn't say ro there
[07:07] <alkisg> It only says errors=remount-ro
[07:07] <alkisg> ren, now try this: touch /media/martin/0224-24F1/test
[07:08] <alkisg> Does it show any error messages?
[07:08] <ren> no error messages
[07:08] <alkisg> OK, now run this: caja /media/martin/0224-24F1
[07:08] <alkisg> Do you see the stick contents AND a test file there?
[07:09] <ren> error message pops up
[07:09] <ren> could not find ...
[07:09] <alkisg> Could not find what? caja?
[07:10] <ren> could not find "/media/martin/0224-24F"
[07:10] <alkisg> You didn't type the "1"
[07:10] <alkisg> at the end
[07:10] <ren> ah, ok
[07:10] <ren> now caja opens up
[07:11] <alkisg> And you see the usb stick contents, and do you see a test file there?
[07:11] <ren> yes
[07:11] <alkisg> OK, now right click there and create a file or folder
[07:11] <alkisg> Do you have write access?
[07:12] <ren> no, don't have any access
[07:12] <alkisg> Double click on the test file
[07:12] <alkisg> Does it open with pluma? Can you write text there and save it?
[07:13] <ren> yes, opens up with pluma and also saves text
[07:13] <alkisg> Then you do have write access...
[07:13] <alkisg> Do you mind if I see what you're talking about, by sharing your screen with me? sudo apt-get install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
[07:13] <ren> i cannot drag and drop through caja anymore
[07:14] <ren> ok
[07:16] <ren> installing now
[07:27] <alkisg> ren, I deleted your caja settings
[07:27] <alkisg> Are things ok now?
[07:27] <alkisg> Test and see
[07:27] <ren> ok, wait a sec
[07:28] <ren> thanks so much, it seems to be working now
[07:28] <ren> what was the problem?
[07:28] <alkisg> Caja saves its settings at ~/.config/caja
[07:28] <alkisg> I renamed that folder to caja.bak, so that it was re-created cleanly
[07:29] <alkisg> Since that fixed it, it appears you had some wrong caja settings somewhere
[07:29] <alkisg> I don't know which; you can restore them and play with them if you want to find out, but it might take a lot of time to pinpoint the exact setting :)
[07:29] <ren> I see
[07:30] <ren> I never used X11vnc before
[07:30] <ren> do I need to deactivate it somewhere?
[07:30] <ren> or deinstall?
[07:30] <alkisg> Nah, leave it, it doesn't hurt anything
[07:30] <alkisg> Just press ctrl+c in the terminal for me to disconnect
[07:31] <alkisg> There
[07:31] <alkisg> Ctrl+C from the keyboard
[07:31] <alkisg> Anyway I pressed it for you
[07:31] <alkisg> I got disconnected now
[07:32] <alkisg> It's not a service that runs on boot, you only manually run it when you want, so it doesn't hurt to have it installed
[07:32] <alkisg> And it only takes a couple of mb
[07:32] <ren> thanks a lot for your help
[07:32] <alkisg> np
[07:33] <ren> i need to learn more about this, have been using ubuntu mate for half a year now
[11:33] <grvn> I'm having some problems with mount that maybe you can help me with. I'm trying to mount a NTFS drive and it works but the options are all wrong. In /etc/fstab the line is /dev/sdb1 /media/extern ntfs-3g auto,rw,exec,nosuid,nodev,noatime,user_id=1000,group_id=1000,umask=000 0 0 but in cat /proc/self/mountinfo it mounts as /media/extern rw,nosuid,no
[11:33] <grvn> dev,noatime shared:30 - fuseblk /dev/sdb1 rw,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096. Does anyone know what I can do to get the options right?
[16:47] <mate|38957> Hi everyone, do you know where can I get doc for building ubuntu mate for raspberry pi?
[18:35] <mate|15633> hi friends