[00:00] <diddledan> it's not clear how much they've used from WordPress' app but they have admitted to using some of it (their chief said something like using WordPress code as a library)
[00:03] <m0nkey_> Isn't it GPL?
[00:03] <diddledan> yes
[00:03] <m0nkey_> So all Wix have to do is release their code, minus any propriety stuff.
[00:04] <penguin42> who said they were allowed to exclude the proprietary stuff
[00:04] <diddledan> well that's the thing. any code in the app linked with the gpl code, whether it's proprietary or not, must be made available to end-users
[00:06] <zmoylan-pi> the thing with the gpl is that it is perfectly legal to do certain things with the code.  this doesn't mean the community won't drop on you like a tonne of bricks
[00:06]  * diddledan sits on wix
[09:04] <foobarry> wow stallman continues to be a douche
[09:04] <foobarry> ended up on his website full of unpalatable opinions
[09:05] <foobarry> the one i recently read is unrepeatable
[09:08] <popey> new ones or old ones?
[09:10] <foobarry> unrepeatable one is old and may be well know
[09:11] <foobarry> but he continues to write offensive new stuff
[09:12] <foobarry> today about downs syndrome
[09:15] <foobarry> another classic stallman "I therefore urge you to do as I did, and have no children. "
[09:15] <foobarry> "When older, often I saw parents rebuke their children for playing with me, or even in my vicinity, assuming it would bother me — without waiting to see if I objected."
[09:17] <foobarry> it doesn't take more than a few seconds to see what a walking contradiction this man is
[09:18] <popey> I can see the point he's making about downs, but he's pretty inarticulate about it
[09:18] <popey> typical lack of empathy
[09:26] <popey> he can be quite awful.
[09:32] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Extra Mile Day! 😃
[10:11] <diddledan> morning
[10:13] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:20] <diddledan> https://threatpost.com/google-reveals-windows-kernel-zero-day-under-attack/121689/
[12:03] <diddledan> https://t.co/yfGtkebg7e
[12:03] <diddledan> the video is fun
[12:19] <diddledan> pinch, punch, oneth of the munth
[12:37] <diddledan> click bait headline make me angry
[12:37] <diddledan> headlines*
[12:38] <diddledan> latest one: https://twitter.com/Sophos/status/793431198689263616
[12:38] <diddledan> "Do this one thing to protect your social media accounts"... and you'll never guess what happened next!
[12:38] <diddledan> ergh
[12:40] <SuperMatt> Have we reduced proper security practicses to clickbait?
[12:41] <diddledan> seems so
[12:42] <diddledan> the other related thing I hate is articles that list things over several click-through pages to force you to load a new set of adverts by clicking through to the next page
[12:44] <diddledan> haha, a government report cites the thread of "script kiddies"
[12:44] <diddledan> threat*
[12:44] <zmoylan-pi> but because security practices change all the time how do we expect technots to keep up?
[12:44] <diddledan> https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/564268/national_cyber_security_strategy.pdf
[12:45] <diddledan> why do we have to use the word "cyber" all the time for hacking activities?
[12:46] <diddledan> from that report: " cyber attacks are growing more frequent" and "From the most basic cyber hygiene, to the most sophisticated deterrence, we need a comprehensive response."
[12:46] <diddledan> wtf is "cyber hygiene"?
[12:46] <diddledan> omg, cyber skillz! " through stronger defences and better cyber skills"
[12:46] <zmoylan-pi> when you run a system that connects to nothing whatsoever?
[12:47] <diddledan> paging Mr Trump: "The cyber threat impacts the whole of our society"
[12:47] <zmoylan-pi> a new macbook for example :-P
[12:49] <zmoylan-pi> does it affect stallman? :-)
[12:56] <Azelphur> ali1234: you about? Have a problem that'd be right up your street I think, volume buttons on my GPD Win don't work, don't show up in xev, evtest, showkey... :< any ideas?
[14:46] <diddledan> cat doesn't know how to door: https://twitter.com/EmrgencyKittens/status/793463879422607361
[14:54] <zmoylan-pi> that's just cat making maximum disturbance for humans...
[14:54] <zmoylan-pi> in the meanwhilest... https://twitter.com/angryearthling/status/793465866587340800/photo/1
[14:55] <diddledan> aww, she cute
[16:01] <SebthreeBQM10HD>  hi
[17:05] <daftykins> how rude, amazon refuse to ship us TVs now
[17:05] <daftykins> standard tanktop ;) https://www.dropbox.com/sh/28n8vfhr1wsbgbe/AADRmcil_SYy5ZNyP1jZxSGaa?dl=0
[17:14] <diddledan> \o/ dust bunnies
[18:04] <diddledan> Microsoft really are shifting their target audience these days... https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ThW7iTwp/err.png
[18:05] <daftykins> here comes the fun ;)
[18:06] <diddledan> isn't that a song? "here comes the fun.. doo dm, doo dm."
[18:07] <diddledan> so, googley chrome on my windows system is more broken than a broken thing that broke
[18:07] <daftykins> you must be doing it wrong!
[18:08] <zmoylan-pi> try not to be spied on that way? :-P
[19:29]  * penguin42 discovered there's a bakery in York doing Orange and chocolate danish pastries; they're wonderful
[19:29] <penguin42> I think they may have even been orange curd
[19:30] <zmoylan-pi> if it's popular surely you can get them more locally?
[19:30]  * penguin42 has never seen such a confection before
[19:32] <zmoylan-pi> http://www.thedailymeal.com/recipes/chocolate-orange-pastries-recipe chocalte and orange pasteries turns up quite a few entries...
[19:33]  * zmoylan-pi wonders how many terry's chocolate oranges are sold every year... :-)
[19:33] <DJones> penguin42: I've just been pointed towards making green tomato cake, sounds wierd, but is supposed to be similar in taste to carrot cake
[19:34] <penguin42> DJones: Neither of which appear to me
[19:34]  * zmoylan-pi remembers having to explain cheesecake to some norwegian friends who'd never heard of such a thing...
[19:34] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: I've had many chocolate and orange things, but this was a wonder
[19:34] <DJones> Me neither, I hate carrot cake
[19:34] <DJones> May just make green tomato chutney, although it takes days to get rid of the cooking smell
[19:35] <DJones> Boiling vinager smells like trying to refract crude oil
[19:37] <penguin42> ewww