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| bdx | lazyPower, mbruzek: just browsing around and found this interesting pertaining to kub + lets encrypt https://github.com/kelseyhightower/kubernetes-letsencrypt-tutorial | 02:01 |
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| bdx | that guy is a bad ass, check out some of his other work too if you have a minute .... super cool | 02:02 |
| bdx | https://github.com/kelseyhightower/vault-controller | 02:06 |
| bdx | xenial+reactive+python3 jenkins refactor -> https://github.com/jamesbeedy/juju-charm-jenkins | 02:56 |
| bdx | jamespage: ^ | 02:56 |
| bdx | boom https://jujucharms.com/u/creativedrive/jenkins/4 | 03:23 |
| jamespage | bdx, oh nice | 05:38 |
| jamespage | beisner, ^^ | 05:38 |
| jamespage | bdx has been busy | 05:38 |
| kjackal | Good morning Juju world | 08:08 |
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| marcoceppi | bdx: I feel like I'm constantly the bearer of bad news | 10:12 |
| marcoceppi | bdx: https://github.com/jenkinsci/jenkins-charm | 10:12 |
| marcoceppi | bdx: in the future, I think we should start pushing a policy of people announcing what they're working on, we're (me) are terrible at this | 10:12 |
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| kjackal | magicaltrout: you should setup a ci it is supper easy (took me one evening). You just chekin something and your work is pushed to the store automagically. I have only good words to say! | 11:38 |
| magicaltrout | I have CI kjackal just not for charms, I'm lazy :P | 11:40 |
| magicaltrout | that said, its not like I code charms for a living, so I suspect our priorities differ ;) | 11:41 |
| kjackal | magicaltrout: true! | 11:42 |
| magicaltrout | got knocked back by the apache mesos folk when asking about LXC support, silly people, they're missing a trick | 11:42 |
| magicaltrout | looks like I'll have to learn C | 11:42 |
| kjackal | magicaltrout: I hope someone from juju-qa will step up and say "kjackal you are doing this all wrong! We have this jenkins plugin that will make your life super easy!" | 11:43 |
| kjackal | Ahhh C! Best language ever! | 11:43 |
| kjackal | magicaltrout: not joking ^ | 11:43 |
| magicaltrout | I don't believe you | 11:44 |
| kjackal | magicaltrout: Everything you do with C is like DIY! Always wear protective gear and never try this at home! | 11:45 |
| magicaltrout | lol | 11:45 |
| magicaltrout | I tried extending mesos for LXC a few weeks ago, it was very much trial and more error | 11:46 |
| magicaltrout | it was funny they asked me what use case they were missing..... | 11:47 |
| magicaltrout | why people think application containers are the best way forward I have no clue | 11:47 |
| kjackal | developers build these things to protect themselves from thierselves | 11:50 |
| magicaltrout | like Go?! ;) | 11:51 |
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| kjackal | I think the story goes like this: In begining there was C. Then developers got annoyed by junior developers that were clumsy with C and they created Java for the Junior devs to play with. But then Java became too popular and quantity beat quality: It was better to have more Java junior devs that few quality C devs. One C dev said I will reboot C and add some of the features I am missing so we have Go. While most C devs are | 12:01 |
| kjackal | boosting C | 12:01 |
| kjackal | magicaltrout: ^ | 12:01 |
| magicaltrout | lol | 12:01 |
| magicaltrout | yeah, i suspect you're not too wide of the mark kjackal | 12:02 |
| rock | Hi all. we pushed our juju charm to public charm store using launchpad juju account. when we pushed it is giving like cs:~hareeshk/kaminario-cinder-10 . It was pushing with account username "hareeshk". Can we push our charm by hiding "username". Please provide me information. | 12:22 |
| magicaltrout | rock: to do that you have to get it signed off and "recommended" by some of the charmers | 12:33 |
| magicaltrout | so you need to ensure it has tests, tests pass, a decent README etc | 12:34 |
| magicaltrout | then it will need to enter the review queue | 12:34 |
| rock | magicaltrout: Hi. Oh. For that it requires the certification right. | 12:41 |
| magicaltrout | well its not certification, they just check to make sure your charm is sane | 12:42 |
| kjackal | rock: https://jujucharms.com/docs/2.0/charm-review-process | 12:43 |
| magicaltrout | doesn't seem to explain how to get it in the review queue though kjackal | 12:44 |
| rock | Kjackal/magicaltrout : Thanks. | 12:49 |
| marcoceppi | rock kjackal http://review.jujucharms.com | 12:50 |
| rock | marcoceppi: Thanks. How much time it will take to review? | 12:54 |
| marcoceppi | rock: we're a little behind, but we'll try to take a look quickly | 12:54 |
| rock | marcoceppi: OK. Thanks. | 12:56 |
| bdx | marcoceppi: yeah ... this is really defeating .... the jenkins you posted doesn't even show up in the charm store ... is in not published for some reason? | 14:25 |
| marcoceppi | bdx: it just landed | 14:25 |
| marcoceppi | I'm really sorry man | 14:25 |
| bdx | jesus | 14:25 |
| marcoceppi | we're not going to cock this up again | 14:25 |
| marcoceppi | you can expect us announcing the charms and layers we're working on, from the entire company, much earlier | 14:26 |
| bdx | entirely | 14:26 |
| bdx | possibly we could make an addition to charm build where on every build it would post the charm name and author name/email to and endpoint somewhere | 14:31 |
| bdx | or something of that fashion | 14:31 |
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| bdx | marcoceppi: why not target xenial on that? | 14:35 |
| marcoceppi | bdx: we are | 14:37 |
| marcoceppi | we will target xenial only for that charm, I'm building and uploading now | 14:37 |
| marcoceppi | bdx: I feel soo bad, but I should check now - what other charms/layers you got in the works? I want to make sure we don't curb stomp your dreams | 14:47 |
| bdx | marcoceppi: no worries, practice makes perfect | 14:48 |
| bdx | marcoceppi: zuul, gitlab, documize, etherpad-lite, mailman3 | 14:49 |
| bdx | marcoceppi: I've yet to start on zuul | 14:49 |
| marcoceppi | bdx: yeah, I'm interested as well in gitlab, and I know Tom Barber has a start of that somewhere | 14:49 |
| bdx | marcoceppi: documize, etherpad-lite, mailman3 are done minus tests | 14:50 |
| marcoceppi | otherwise, i'm not awayre of any of those in flight | 14:50 |
| bdx | ok | 14:50 |
| bdx | I only have a start on gitlab too | 14:50 |
| jhobbs | beisner: do you'll have anything around zuul? | 14:50 |
| bdx | I should the trout about that for sure | 14:51 |
| bdx | magicaltrout:^ | 14:51 |
| bdx | marcoceppi: I have a reactive rewrite of kibana I've been deploying .... but I'm guessing the whole elastic stack should be consuming a base layer of some sort eh? | 14:52 |
| beisner | jhobbs, only via integration with upstream gerrit + zuul. we don't have our own zuul deployed though. | 14:52 |
| marcoceppi | bdx: dude, that's awesome! we were jsut about to start moving elasticsearch to 5.0.0 and layered! | 14:52 |
| marcoceppi | bdx: where's your kibana? | 14:52 |
| bdx | https://github.com/jamesbeedy/layer-kibana | 14:53 |
| marcoceppi | \m/ | 14:53 |
| marcoceppi | lazyPower: ^^ | 14:53 |
| lazyPower | thats great news \o/ | 14:54 |
| bdx | here are another few layers I've hacked up recently | 14:59 |
| bdx | https://github.com/jamesbeedy/layer-nginx-passenger | 14:59 |
| bdx | https://github.com/jamesbeedy/layer-postfix | 14:59 |
| bdx | https://github.com/jamesbeedy/layer-git-deploy | 15:00 |
| bdx | https://github.com/jamesbeedy/layer-apache2 | 15:00 |
| bdx | https://github.com/jamesbeedy/layer-phalcon | 15:00 |
| bdx | https://github.com/jamesbeedy/layer-consul-base | 15:00 |
| lazyPower | bdx - we should seriously, sync and divvy up the work on the elastic stack | 15:02 |
| lazyPower | bdx - the goalpost got moved on me, and its not coming as soon as I was hoping. I'm wiling to put in some time if you are to split that work up and deliver the 5.0 elastic stack | 15:02 |
| bdx | lazyPower: fully down man .... I've been training up a two man charming team at work ... few hours a day ... its been great all around | 15:03 |
| bdx | we would be interested in teaming up on that | 15:03 |
| bdx | for sure | 15:03 |
| lazyPower | word, calendar sync on thursday then to meet/greet and figure out what we need to do? | 15:03 |
| lazyPower | i have some early planning docs that i need to fish up and dust of | 15:03 |
| bdx | totally .... I'm in palm springs till sunday and wont be around much, lets shoot for next week sometime | 15:04 |
| bdx | monday? | 15:04 |
| lazyPower | that sounds even better | 15:04 |
| lazyPower | i may need to resched due to having team members at kubecon, i'll be running support for them | 15:05 |
| lazyPower | but tentatively that sounds great to me | 15:05 |
| bdx | sweet! | 15:05 |
| lazyPower | excellent :) | 15:05 |
| lazyPower | bdx preferred time? | 15:06 |
| bdx | 9am my time | 15:06 |
| bdx | so like an hour from now | 15:06 |
| bdx | does that work for you? | 15:06 |
| bdx | want me to send you a calendar invite? | 15:07 |
| lazyPower | bdx you've got mail | 15:08 |
| bdxbdx | Marcoceppi: do you also have a Jenkins-slave going on? | 15:32 |
| bdxbdx | marcoceppi: having Jenkins and Jenkins slave on xenial will be huge .... Lxd local provider + juju 2.0 can't really happen | 15:33 |
| bdxbdx | On any other series | 15:33 |
| bdxbdx | For Jenkins <-> juju ci pipelines I'm thinking it will be crucial to have this | 15:34 |
| lazyPower | bdx - there's an open jenkins layer review we could use your eyeballs on | 15:43 |
| lazyPower | ooo and to my surprise its already landed | 15:44 |
| bdx | lazyPower, marcoceppi: not sure I can accept the invite -> https://s12.postimg.org/8lcvygobx/Screen_Shot_2016_11_02_at_9_10_36_AM.png | 16:11 |
| bdx | its on my calendar though | 16:11 |
| bdx | nm, git it, accepted | 16:32 |
| lazyPower | solid | 16:32 |
| lazyPower | bdx - should we make this a hangout on air and invite the community at large? | 16:32 |
| lazyPower | i can also reach out to my contacts at elastic to see if they are interested in participating from a curious onlooker position. They might be able to lend a body for planning and insights. | 16:33 |
| bdx | lazyPower: totally | 16:33 |
| bdx | lazyPower: my guys over here want to be part of this too | 16:33 |
| lazyPower | bdx ok, let me see what i can do when jcastro surfaces. He's got all this down to a science | 16:34 |
| lazyPower | thanks for agreeing to help chair this effort :) | 16:34 |
| lazyPower | magicaltrout - if you're interested, you're invited toooooo | 16:34 |
| jcastro | who needs help? | 16:35 |
| magicaltrout | i'm always interested in taking on yet more unpaid work! ;) | 16:36 |
| jcastro | lazyPower: hangouts on air went away, the tldr is you'd do it on youtube like how with gaming.youtube | 16:37 |
| jcastro | there's a little panel for livestreaming, etc. | 16:37 |
| lazyPower | ahhh | 16:38 |
| lazyPower | magicaltrout - well i didn't mean it like that, but i appreciate the sentiment :D <3 | 16:38 |
| magicaltrout | lol | 16:38 |
| magicaltrout | whatever :P | 16:38 |
| lazyPower | magicaltrout - i was just thinking you likely have a stake in this as its solving little data problems too | 16:38 |
| magicaltrout | this is true | 16:39 |
| magicaltrout | i've been abusing people at work recently over elastic stuff | 16:39 |
| jcastro | man this new kibana looks so sweet though | 16:39 |
| lazyPower | i'm | 16:39 |
| lazyPower | sayin | 16:39 |
| lazyPower | they did a bang up job on the 5.0 release | 16:39 |
| jcastro | it's like, I don't even want to use the old one at all anymore | 16:40 |
| bdx | jcastroyeah, we all want it | 16:41 |
| lazyPower | sorry they kept teasing me with getting to work on that stack :\ | 16:41 |
| lazyPower | we had other bigger ticket items | 16:41 |
| admcleod1 | dont forget fast data | 16:42 |
| lazyPower | soooo free time it is :D | 16:42 |
| lazyPower | admcleod1 - que? | 16:42 |
| admcleod1 | big, little and fast data | 16:42 |
| magicaltrout | fast big data? | 16:42 |
| lazyPower | is there a slow data too? | 16:42 |
| magicaltrout | absoutely | 16:42 |
| lazyPower | what about obtuse data vs acute data? now we just sound classist. | 16:42 |
| magicaltrout | have you ever been introduced to Map Reduce? | 16:42 |
| admcleod1 | irc is pretty slow data | 16:42 |
| lazyPower | once | 16:42 |
| lazyPower | it was horrible | 16:42 |
| magicaltrout | MapR is about as admcleod1 on a good day | 16:43 |
| lazyPower | ooooo | 16:43 |
| jrwren | databased on filesystems backed by remote block devices over gigabit is slow data. | 16:43 |
| admcleod1 | he's such a snuggly bunny | 16:43 |
| magicaltrout | currently i'm dealing with TB's of data... on NFS | 16:43 |
| magicaltrout | now that is slow data | 16:44 |
| lazyPower | magicaltrout - did you use glusterfs-nfs or just plain ole nfs? | 16:44 |
| magicaltrout | oh, pretty much what jrwren said :) | 16:44 |
| magicaltrout | lazyPower: not my call, plain NFS | 16:44 |
| * lazyPower nods | 16:44 | |
| magicaltrout | either way, if you want fast data, don't store it on NFS | 16:44 |
| * lazyPower pins that message to the channel | 16:44 | |
| magicaltrout | well the other day I got someone complaining that copying 100GB of data on an NFS cluster on EC2 took 1 1/2 hours | 16:45 |
| jrwren | 4.9 kernel adds supoprt for NFS4.2 COPY... so you can look forward to that speed up ;] | 16:45 |
| magicaltrout | this is correct! then doing it on a machine locally took a few seconds | 16:45 |
| === lazyPower changed the topic of #juju to: Welcome to Juju! || Docs: http://jujucharms.com/docs || FAQ: http://goo.gl/MsNu4I || Review Queue: http://review.juju.solutions || Unanswered Questions: http://goo.gl/dNj8CP || Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/jujucharms || Juju 2.0 release notes: https://jujucharms.com/docs/stable/reference-release-notes | ||
| lazyPower | evilnickveitch - did we get 2.0.1 release notes? i thought i saw a merge email fly by on friday but i cant seem to find it | 16:46 |
| jrwren | magicaltrout: was it EBS backed? EBS can be very slow sometimes. | 16:46 |
| magicaltrout | yeah jrwren | 16:46 |
| admcleod1 | magicaltrout: have you tried fastnfs? | 16:47 |
| magicaltrout | my Sys Admin guy is putting his eggs into the Amazon EFS basket and waiting to migrate to that | 16:47 |
| magicaltrout | you making up words again admcleod1 ? | 16:48 |
| bdx | he is | 16:48 |
| magicaltrout | thanks | 16:48 |
| admcleod1 | yes, yes i am | 16:48 |
| bdx | made me look | 16:48 |
| bdx | jerk | 16:48 |
| magicaltrout | hehe | 16:48 |
| evilnickveitch | lazyPower, not any that made their way to docs - I think it was just an email to the list. i will check into that | 16:49 |
| lazyPower | ok thanks, i must have conflated the mail to the list with a doc pr. :) my b | 16:49 |
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| evilnickveitch | lazyPower, there was a doc PR to update the sources for the new release, but no notes, so your brain isn't that wonky | 16:52 |
| lazyPower | evilnickveitch - how much longer before i've earned the 'mad scientist' badge? | 16:52 |
| lazyPower | s/before/until/ | 16:52 |
| evilnickveitch | I think you are halfway there | 16:53 |
| lazyPower | \m/, yesssss | 16:53 |
| admcleod | halfway to zeno maybe | 17:01 |
| jcastro | stokachu: battlemidget! | 17:52 |
| jcastro | have you tried doing conjure-up, juju, and lxd all from snaps? | 17:52 |
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| stokachu | jcastro: yea it doens't work | 18:47 |
| stokachu | not easily anyway | 18:47 |
| stokachu | jcastro: https://github.com/conjure-up/conjure-up/tree/master/snapcraft thats our snap build stuff | 18:49 |
| stokachu | havent ran it in a bit though | 18:49 |
| jcastro | yeah, the one I'm using is also trying to launch observable kubernetes | 18:54 |
| deanman | Is docker charms supported with localhost LXD setup? I've tried both the 'observable-swarm' and 'swarm | 20:11 |
| lazyPower | deanman - those bundles are old, but in short, that configuration is not supported today | 20:11 |
| lazyPower | deanman - there is work being done to make running docker containers in lxd a better story, right now you can even pilot some of that manually with lxd profiles (the lxd docker profile is available in newer lxd packages) but you'll still find a lot of limitations there | 20:12 |
| deanman | lazyPower: Can you suggest a working charm to test docker locally using Juju or only safe bet is using some cloud infrastructure? | 20:13 |
| lazyPower | deanman - the only way you can achieve a layer-docker based charm working locally today is to use a VM backed substrate like KVM or VirtualBox (both on the manual provider, RIP KVM provider) so a majority of the work on those charm are performed in the cloud on aws/gce/azure | 20:13 |
| deanman | lazyPower: Thanks for the hints! | 20:15 |
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