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carakaI see idle builders, and my packages have been in the queue for 5 hours.  :/07:57
carakaam I broken, or am I just stuck behind the zesty rebuild?07:58
cjwatsoncaraka: almost certainly the latter, and the only idle builders are on ppc64el/s390x; can't be sure without a ref to your build though09:09
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carakathanks cjwatson. As per Murphy's law, the amd64 builds reached the front of their queue after I bitched about it. Go figure. I probably just caught the buiilder's page just as a few builders finished cleaning themselves before jumping back into the fray. Cheers09:38
cjwatsoncaraka: yeah, there's often a 15-second idle period09:39
cjwatsonor thereabouts09:40
caraka:D Murphy working overtime09:41
cjwatsonah, bunch of builders stuck cleaning though, will poke09:41
carakathat's a pretty big refactor of the whole thing, eh? and I guess it kind of has to happen all at once the first time around09:42
cjwatsonthere, that should help finish draining the queue09:42
cjwatsoncaraka: what do you mean?09:42
carakarebuilding all of zesty at once. At least that's what it looked like to me09:42
cjwatsonnot in the least09:43
carakabuilding out the whole proposed section on top of yakkety. that's how it works with a fresh release, right?09:43
cjwatsonno09:43
cjwatsonwe auto-sync packages that have changed in Debian unstable09:44
cjwatsonafter being in import freeze for a couple of months there's generally a bit of a queue of these09:44
carakaright. that's ind of what I meant. and the first time that happens with a new release, it's big09:44
cjwatsonbut it's usually on the order of a couple of thousand source packages, rather than all of zesty09:44
cjwatsonorder of magnitude difference there :)09:45
carakaI guess so. :P09:45
cjwatsona full rebuild takes more like a week to clear; the initial auto-sync runs at around half a day or less these days09:45
carakawow. I guess that hasn;t really had to happen since the Badger days or ssomething09:46
cjwatsonwhat, a full rebuild?09:46
carakayes09:46
cjwatsonwe never rebuild everything in Ubuntu proper09:47
cjwatsonbut we do full test rebuilds a few times per release cycle09:47
carakalearn something new every day.09:47
carakaWell thank your for help, and I'm sure some other folks in the queue are grateful a few builders have had a nudge09:48
cjwatsonno problem, should all clear out pretty soon now09:49
cjwatsonthe build farm requires a lot less manual babysitting than it used to09:49
carakaSilly questiin if I might - when will wily builds start to fail/reject. It must be soon.09:50
carakaOr am I getting away with it because I'm not using a recipe09:51
cjwatsonit's up to the Ubuntu release team when to mark that as obsolete - it's overdue but was being held off due to an abundance of caution about products built on it09:52
cjwatsonyou should definitely not rely on that happening any more though09:53
carakaI don;t, and I've warned my users repeatedly that they are on borrowed time. I'm looking forward to the rejection letter.  :D  Now its time to set up some zesty test builds.09:57
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naccis there an API in launchpadlib to obtain an arbitrary orig tarball (given a srcpkg and an upstream version)? or whereabouts I might look for that15:16
dobeyi think you'd probably need some more details; but the archive endpoints would be where to start i think15:17
naccdobey: ok, thanks -- this is for a helper tool for the server team importer, which means the version we are currently building doesn't necessarily exist, so I can't pull() it. I can extract what the upstream part is, but I guess I'd just need to find a published version with the same upstream value and pull() that15:21
PromilleHi guys. I have written a comment on a bug-thread. Does this "bump" the bug so the relevant people can see it? Thread in question: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/translate-shell/+bug/1572035?comments=all16:15
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1572035 in translate-shell (Ubuntu) "translate-shell outdated and broken" [Undecided,New]16:15
dobeyPromille: people who are subscribed to the bug get e-mail, yes16:17
Promilledobey: Hm ok. Lets hope that thats enough. The comment has a link to new version from the developer which fixes a broken package in multiverse.16:21
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