[19:35] * genii slides RFleming a fresh coffee [19:35] yum [19:36] RFleming: It's usually pretty quiet in here. Sometimes it picks up if there's some hackerspace stuff or *buntu thing happening [19:36] Nice. [19:36] I'll have to add this to my auto-start [19:36] a way to harass you :) [19:37] RFleming: There's also the mailing list, https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ca [19:37] RFleming: Heh, yes [19:37] is it full of crap? [19:37] Not usually. [19:37] I may join it. I get so much crap, it's insane [19:37] you part of the xubuntu devel group? [19:42] Nah, I've done testing but not a lot. My main involvement is with Kubuntu [19:43] really? [19:43] But also marginally with all the other distributions, since the place i volunteer/am a board member at is Toronto FreeNet have machines which run pretty much everything [19:44] as in freenet project? [19:44] RFleming: Yes, was with Kubuntu since the beginning :D [19:44] no [19:44] free-net [19:44] the ISP? [19:45] RFleming: Is a co-op ISP and also subscribes to the Free-Net philosophy as in freedom, yes [19:45] I ditched KDE when 4 came out [19:45] genii: I used to be a member [19:45] Yeah, KDE3-KDE4 transition was painful [19:45] a long long long time ago [19:46] and Internet Connect [19:46] err Internet Direct? [19:46] yeah, second sounds right [19:46] man, long time ago [19:46] so long [19:46] Yes, Internet Direct was pretty good :) [19:46] then Tucows messed it all up [19:46] I used them a long time, they had the install CD witht he happy baby [19:47] This reminds me of the Internet telecafe they had [19:47] yeah... I was running Gentoo during the 3-4 transition, and KDE bricked my install [19:48] I got so pissed off, spending so much damned time compiling, for me to end up with a big pile of crap in my lap... I switched to fluxbox. [19:49] I'm really looking forward to Lubuntu's switch to LXQT. I like the qt library, and the unified look... but I really do dislike the bloat of KDE [19:49] I've installed it a few times, and am always left thinking... It's pretty, but it's slow. [19:50] (Kubuntu) [19:50] On some slower machines here I have Lubuntu and Xubuntu, works great [19:50] FreeNet generally runs Xubuntu on the lower end stuff [19:51] by no means is Xubuntu light. It's a bit of a misnomer... but it's quick, and stable. [19:51] nor is Mate light... it's probably more bloated than Xfce! [19:51] The xubuntu dev team is also somewhat more organized than the Lubuntu team [19:58] yeah [19:59] I'm hoping for an Ubuntu-budgie [19:59] that's a slick interface; perfect for light duty computing [19:59] Yes, I saw you mention that in -offtopic :) [20:00] if you've got time, check out budgie-remix in a VM [20:00] https://budgie-remix.org/ [20:01] wallpaper is kinda crap, but Solus OS has a real nice DM [20:02] but it integrates with the gnome stack :) [20:04] * genii bookmarks [20:05] the guy is trying really hard to make it an official flavour [20:05] budgie-remix is pure ubuntu with budgie as the DM. budgie-desktop is actually in the Canonical repos now [20:11] Yes, i saw that [20:12] Gotta go watch a Kubuntu podcast :) afk [20:13] If you're interested, http://www.youtube.com/c/KubuntuPodcast/live [20:13] genii: for you, I'll try kubuntu again [20:13] on real hardware [21:13] genii: you recommend LTS or yakkety? [21:13] (kubuntu) [21:13] LTS [21:14] And google how to disable akonadi :) [21:14] 16.10 not ready for prime time? [21:15] They are having Qt4-Qt5 transition issues [21:15] ahh [21:15] I expect that to happen with the gtk3-gtk4 transition :) [21:17] although 4.6 will be gtk 4.0 [21:17] as 4.0-4.5 will be transitions [21:18] or something like that