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knightwisegood morning everyone06:38
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.07:34
diploMorning all09:26
knightwise hey diplo ²09:40
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JamesTaitGood morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy Men Make Dinner Day! 😃09:57
JamesTaitWhich - coincidentally, I'm sure - is also Sandwich Day.09:58
BigRedSAh! cereal-for-dinner day again!10:00
JamesTaitIronically, I make dinner every day except Thursday, which is take-away day.10:01
foobarrycan anyone help me remember the name of a game10:14
foobarryandroid game where there's blobs that need sucking other blobs in10:15
foobarryhas good sound effects10:15
JamesTaitWorld of Goo?10:15
foobarryi want to say sonos10:18
foobarrythe blobs look like burning suns10:18
JamesTaitNo idea then.10:18
foobarryhah osmos10:19
foobarryhttps://www.humblebundle.com/store/osmos10:24
TwistedLucidityOsmos is a nice little game10:29
foobarrynice escapism10:32
Myrttihttps://twitter.com/myrtti/status/794121262691995648 :-(10:57
* zmoylan-pi has noticed a tiny scratch on my dumb nokia screen... i don't remember been in a horrific accident or having it struck by meteorite... :-P11:03
knightwiseyou12:41
knightwiseare alll12:41
knightwisethat I need12:41
knightwise...12:41
knightwiseWanted to type in Youtube12:43
knightwiseBeen listening to a LOT of soundmixes on youtube lately12:45
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foobarrynot often i get surprised by computers13:32
foobarryexcept last night i plugged the usb from the digital piano into the laptop, opened up skoove.com and it knew what keys i was playing!13:33
TwistedLucidityNext up: foobarry's piano partakes in a DDoS concerto.13:34
foobarrynot sure what windows would have done - install drivers?13:34
TwistedLucidity"You hardware is not working correctly, would you like to search on-line for a solution?"13:34
foobarryhe trick is that MIDI over USB is a common standard that every single USB controller uses. Therefore, since ALSA supports that standard, Ubuntu users need no additional drivers to use such keyboards. Just plug it in a free USB slot and ALSA will immediately discover it.13:34
TwistedLucidityIf I tries that, I'd get an error message from ALSA: Stop, please stop. No. Can't take it any more. STOP! kill --self13:35
foobarrythat article from 201213:36
foobarryno idea what handled it but it was seamless13:36
foobarryhttps://lmms.io/ looks cool13:36
=== alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g
AzelphuroO, Company called FreedomPop are selling sim cards for 99p with 200 minutes, texts and mb data free forever after that14:21
AzelphurI'm thinking would be really cool for gadgetry that needs to call home14:21
foobarryhow many mb14:23
foobarry200?14:23
Azelphuryea14:23
foobarryso disposable sims?14:23
Azelphurpretty much14:24
Azelphurseems like, anyway14:24
m0nkey_We get royally screwed with cell phone plans here14:28
m0nkey_Your basic package, which includes 1000 mins of calling, 1GB data, $50/month14:28
m0nkey_If you want anything more, that figure easily doubles.14:29
m0nkey_So let me get this straight. You get 200 mins/text and 200mb data for free? How does that work?!14:29
diddledanm0nkey_: is that a sim-only price or do you get a cheapo phone with that?14:30
m0nkey_99p for the SIM14:30
m0nkey_And you get free calls, text and data each month14:30
m0nkey_That's a bargain.14:30
m0nkey_But what's the catch?14:30
Azelphurm0nkey_: I guess that the allowance is low?14:30
m0nkey_Do they mine data from it?14:30
Azelphurmaybe so14:30
diddledanthe catch has to be that they charge a premium if you go-over the limit?14:31
Azelphurmaybe14:31
diddledangood for jason bourne to be able to use for a burner though :-p14:31
m0nkey_It may be worth getting one sent to my parents address for when I visit.14:31
Azelphurdiddledan: I'm just thinking it'd be awesome for little gadgets that need to call home14:32
Azelphureg GPS trackers14:32
diddledanyeah that would be nifty. also for home-build things that you want to be able to contact wherever it might end-up14:33
Azelphurexactly14:33
diddledanlike rockets :-p14:33
diddledanand weather baboons14:33
m0nkey_apparently I just won a $50 amazon gift card14:34
Azelphurmakes me want to instigate my plan of fitting a GPS tracker inside the empty drive bay in my laptop14:34
diddledanm0nkey_: awesome14:34
m0nkey_(yes, it's legit)14:34
diddledanAzelphur: that's a really good method for stealthily tracking if it gets nicked. I like that plan14:35
Azelphurdiddledan: yea, always wanted to do that.14:35
Azelphurdiddledan: SATA has a 5v rail and most of these things charge on microusb14:36
Azelphurso it could charge whenever the laptop was on, and just sit there forever14:36
diddledanmore reliable than these things like prey.com because it would carry-on working even if the device is wiped or was never used on a network14:36
Azelphurindeed14:36
diddledanI'm liking the sound of this more and more14:37
Azelphurdiddledan: could even put it inside the chassis of a SSD so even if they stripped the laptop they wouldn't notice.14:37
Azelphurain't no-one gonna strip down a "broken" SSD :P14:38
m0nkey_It's nice to have a chair that doesn't squeak all the time. Took the thing apart and doused it in WD40.17:50
daftykins:D17:51
diddledanI made a thing for Windows users: https://fbhub.link/21:07
diddledanseriously good Rey cosplay: https://blog.adafruit.com/2016/11/03/how-to-make-the-force-awakens-reys-arm-warmers/21:14
daftykinswearing rags like a pro21:15
diddledannew thunderbolt macs don't work with thunderbolt things: https://9to5mac.com/2016/11/03/2016-macbook-pro-thunderbolt-compatibility-issues/21:34
penguin42huh I wonder why21:36
daftykinsTI controller chips vs intel could be it21:36
penguin42it's a standard - right....21:36
penguin42you'd think they'd do interop tests21:36
daftykinsand we'll never hear shauno defend it :(21:37
penguin42?21:37
daftykinswell, Apple devices in general21:37
diddledan_insider build update installing on me pc now. I'm on my mac while it does so21:41
daftykins;)21:41
daftykinsi wiped this clients mid 2010 macbook with Sierra t'other day21:41
diddledan_did sierra mind you wiping things with her?21:42
daftykinsamusingly i know a guy with the nick in another chan21:42
diddledan_tis a girls' name!21:42
daftykinshe asked not to be squeezed onto a flash drive...21:42
diddledan_"you've got a girls' hand"21:43
daftykinsm'lud21:43
diddledan_yey for recognising the reference21:43
daftykins8D21:43
daftykinsin some game the other day a pickup item was named "Purest Green"21:44
diddledan_lol21:46
diddledan_hmm, I've got a hankerin' to watch B521:46
popeydiddledan_: i typed "huh" into fbhub and got "Bad Request"21:47
daftykinsseems accurate :D21:47
popeydiddledan_: did you see that guy showing a new macbook pro which drops off wifi when a usb c device is attached21:47
popeyits quite fun21:48
popeyhe's a semi-famous repair guy from NY21:48
daftykinsoh is that Louis ?21:48
daftykinsRossman21:48
popeyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYVjIjBMx6o21:48
popeyyeah21:48
daftykins\o/21:48
daftykinshis vids are ace21:48
popeyi like the title of tha tvideo21:48
popeyyeah21:48
penguin42I was surprised the Apple shop didnt have the new ones on display yet21:48
penguin42popey: It's a fairly normal US expression isn't it?21:49
* daftykins thinks so21:51
marxjohnsondnsmasq keeps dying on my 16.04 server.  Can anyone suggest how I can track down why?21:52
daftykins#ubuntu-server would be better for that.21:53
marxjohnsondaftykins: thanks21:53
penguin42popey: One of the comments mentions yee-oldee intel paper telling you to be careful of USB-3 vs wifi - so it could be that I guess21:55
diddledan_ok, popey , that's broken. it's not supposed to give "bad request" in response to a problem, but is supposed to show a pretty error page21:57
diddledan_I must have something misconfigured somewhere21:57
popeydiddledan_: happy to test further, I'm good at breaking stuff21:58
popeymarxjohnson: do you use lxc on that box?21:59
daftykinsi don't really want to defend Apple but Louis is using some sketchy third party adapters right there, goes some way to explaining things not working22:00
penguin42daftykins: It's a standard port, it should work with standard peripherals22:01
penguin42daftykins: and he shows it working fine on his Dell22:01
popeyhe uses the same port in non-apple devices too22:02
popeyhe very clearly says they're not el cheapo22:02
popeyand has a point that it's a 1600$ laptop, you shouldn't have to spend 80$ on a dongle to just attach it to a projector22:02
marxjohnsonpopey: I have done at some point22:03
daftykinspenguin42: yes but it's new, you've read about the USB C issues right?22:03
popeymarxjohnson: when did it start crashing?22:04
daftykinspopey: yeah i can understand that but if you buy some thing off amazon and say it's not cheap that's not proof XD22:04
popeydoesn't make it crap either22:04
popeyno doubt a firmware / software update will come soon enough22:05
popeyit looked to me like the cpu was badly stuttering22:05
penguin42daftykins: His other point is that they'd taken away all the other ports, so 'yes but it's new' should have an easy way to fall back to stuff that works22:07
popeythe keyboard noise was interesting too22:08
popeysomeone told him to go to settings and turn the keyboard volume down22:08
daftykinsyeah i just got to the keyboard noise part22:08
popeywhich I can't tell if it was a joke, or serious :)22:08
daftykinspenguin42: right but Apple's decision to do that is 1) utterly stupid and 2) already a given to me before discussing the video content really22:08
popeylike, whether it's some audio haptic thing to make it feel more pro22:08
daftykinsi read they only have 0.55mm travel, that'd be nasty22:09
popeyI do actually like the idea of USB c everywhere22:09
popeyit's just a bit too soon22:09
popey#courage22:09
daftykinsyeah, Apple always want to be the ones seen to be pushing the boundaries of course22:09
daftykinsand sites that review their gear can't even be honest because they'll be blacklisted from attending events, like The Register22:10
popeyheh it's an accolade to get banned by apple these days :)22:10
daftykinsthey are quite the evil company22:11
diddledanpopey: should be fixed now :-)22:11
popeyyay22:13
diddledanI had to wait for my Windows box to return from installing to get at the code :-p22:13
daftykinsdiddledan, #1 Windows tester22:13
daftykins:>22:13
marxjohnsonpopey: first time was around 6-8 weeks ago (that I noticed)22:17
diddledanubuntu podcast time: I used Gentoo as my daily system back in 2005 era22:24
daftykinsgentoo anonymous22:27
popeymarxjohnson: sorry, no idea.22:30
daftykinswhat role does dnsmasqd play in a server environment if a static IP is in use?22:32
daftykins-d22:32
* daftykins finds automagic stuff is always good to murder22:35
daftykinsah i wish i could remember which technology it was, but there was definitely a new interface or display type that made ubuntu of whichever version at the time have that same mouse pointer lag22:41

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