[06:38] good morning everyone [07:34] morning boys and girls. [09:26] Morning all [09:40] hey diplo ² === stryx`_ is now known as stryx` [09:57] Good morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy Men Make Dinner Day! 😃 [09:58] Which - coincidentally, I'm sure - is also Sandwich Day. [10:00] Ah! cereal-for-dinner day again! [10:01] Ironically, I make dinner every day except Thursday, which is take-away day. [10:14] can anyone help me remember the name of a game [10:15] android game where there's blobs that need sucking other blobs in [10:15] has good sound effects [10:15] World of Goo? [10:18] i want to say sonos [10:18] the blobs look like burning suns [10:18] No idea then. [10:19] hah osmos [10:24] https://www.humblebundle.com/store/osmos [10:29] Osmos is a nice little game [10:32] nice escapism [10:57] https://twitter.com/myrtti/status/794121262691995648 :-( [11:03] * zmoylan-pi has noticed a tiny scratch on my dumb nokia screen... i don't remember been in a horrific accident or having it struck by meteorite... :-P [12:41] you [12:41] are alll [12:41] that I need [12:41] ... [12:43] Wanted to type in Youtube [12:45] Been listening to a LOT of soundmixes on youtube lately === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:32] not often i get surprised by computers [13:33] except last night i plugged the usb from the digital piano into the laptop, opened up skoove.com and it knew what keys i was playing! [13:34] Next up: foobarry's piano partakes in a DDoS concerto. [13:34] not sure what windows would have done - install drivers? [13:34] "You hardware is not working correctly, would you like to search on-line for a solution?" [13:34] he trick is that MIDI over USB is a common standard that every single USB controller uses. Therefore, since ALSA supports that standard, Ubuntu users need no additional drivers to use such keyboards. Just plug it in a free USB slot and ALSA will immediately discover it. [13:35] If I tries that, I'd get an error message from ALSA: Stop, please stop. No. Can't take it any more. STOP! kill --self [13:36] that article from 2012 [13:36] no idea what handled it but it was seamless [13:36] https://lmms.io/ looks cool === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:21] oO, Company called FreedomPop are selling sim cards for 99p with 200 minutes, texts and mb data free forever after that [14:21] I'm thinking would be really cool for gadgetry that needs to call home [14:23] how many mb [14:23] 200? [14:23] yea [14:23] so disposable sims? [14:24] pretty much [14:24] seems like, anyway [14:28] We get royally screwed with cell phone plans here [14:28] Your basic package, which includes 1000 mins of calling, 1GB data, $50/month [14:29] If you want anything more, that figure easily doubles. [14:29] So let me get this straight. You get 200 mins/text and 200mb data for free? How does that work?! [14:30] m0nkey_: is that a sim-only price or do you get a cheapo phone with that? [14:30] 99p for the SIM [14:30] And you get free calls, text and data each month [14:30] That's a bargain. [14:30] But what's the catch? [14:30] m0nkey_: I guess that the allowance is low? [14:30] Do they mine data from it? [14:30] maybe so [14:31] the catch has to be that they charge a premium if you go-over the limit? [14:31] maybe [14:31] good for jason bourne to be able to use for a burner though :-p [14:31] It may be worth getting one sent to my parents address for when I visit. [14:32] diddledan: I'm just thinking it'd be awesome for little gadgets that need to call home [14:32] eg GPS trackers [14:33] yeah that would be nifty. also for home-build things that you want to be able to contact wherever it might end-up [14:33] exactly [14:33] like rockets :-p [14:33] and weather baboons [14:34] apparently I just won a $50 amazon gift card [14:34] makes me want to instigate my plan of fitting a GPS tracker inside the empty drive bay in my laptop [14:34] m0nkey_: awesome [14:34] (yes, it's legit) [14:35] Azelphur: that's a really good method for stealthily tracking if it gets nicked. I like that plan [14:35] diddledan: yea, always wanted to do that. [14:36] diddledan: SATA has a 5v rail and most of these things charge on microusb [14:36] so it could charge whenever the laptop was on, and just sit there forever [14:36] more reliable than these things like prey.com because it would carry-on working even if the device is wiped or was never used on a network [14:36] indeed [14:37] I'm liking the sound of this more and more [14:37] diddledan: could even put it inside the chassis of a SSD so even if they stripped the laptop they wouldn't notice. [14:38] ain't no-one gonna strip down a "broken" SSD :P [17:50] It's nice to have a chair that doesn't squeak all the time. Took the thing apart and doused it in WD40. [17:51] :D [21:07] I made a thing for Windows users: https://fbhub.link/ [21:14] seriously good Rey cosplay: https://blog.adafruit.com/2016/11/03/how-to-make-the-force-awakens-reys-arm-warmers/ [21:15] wearing rags like a pro [21:34] new thunderbolt macs don't work with thunderbolt things: https://9to5mac.com/2016/11/03/2016-macbook-pro-thunderbolt-compatibility-issues/ [21:36] huh I wonder why [21:36] TI controller chips vs intel could be it [21:36] it's a standard - right.... [21:36] you'd think they'd do interop tests [21:37] and we'll never hear shauno defend it :( [21:37] ? [21:37] well, Apple devices in general [21:41] insider build update installing on me pc now. I'm on my mac while it does so [21:41] ;) [21:41] i wiped this clients mid 2010 macbook with Sierra t'other day [21:42] did sierra mind you wiping things with her? [21:42] amusingly i know a guy with the nick in another chan [21:42] tis a girls' name! [21:42] he asked not to be squeezed onto a flash drive... [21:43] "you've got a girls' hand" [21:43] m'lud [21:43] yey for recognising the reference [21:43] 8D [21:44] in some game the other day a pickup item was named "Purest Green" [21:46] lol [21:46] hmm, I've got a hankerin' to watch B5 [21:47] diddledan_: i typed "huh" into fbhub and got "Bad Request" [21:47] seems accurate :D [21:47] diddledan_: did you see that guy showing a new macbook pro which drops off wifi when a usb c device is attached [21:48] its quite fun [21:48] he's a semi-famous repair guy from NY [21:48] oh is that Louis ? [21:48] Rossman [21:48] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYVjIjBMx6o [21:48] yeah [21:48] \o/ [21:48] his vids are ace [21:48] i like the title of tha tvideo [21:48] yeah [21:48] I was surprised the Apple shop didnt have the new ones on display yet [21:49] popey: It's a fairly normal US expression isn't it? [21:51] * daftykins thinks so [21:52] dnsmasq keeps dying on my 16.04 server. Can anyone suggest how I can track down why? [21:53] #ubuntu-server would be better for that. [21:53] daftykins: thanks [21:55] popey: One of the comments mentions yee-oldee intel paper telling you to be careful of USB-3 vs wifi - so it could be that I guess [21:57] ok, popey , that's broken. it's not supposed to give "bad request" in response to a problem, but is supposed to show a pretty error page [21:57] I must have something misconfigured somewhere [21:58] diddledan_: happy to test further, I'm good at breaking stuff [21:59] marxjohnson: do you use lxc on that box? [22:00] i don't really want to defend Apple but Louis is using some sketchy third party adapters right there, goes some way to explaining things not working [22:01] daftykins: It's a standard port, it should work with standard peripherals [22:01] daftykins: and he shows it working fine on his Dell [22:02] he uses the same port in non-apple devices too [22:02] he very clearly says they're not el cheapo [22:02] and has a point that it's a 1600$ laptop, you shouldn't have to spend 80$ on a dongle to just attach it to a projector [22:03] popey: I have done at some point [22:03] penguin42: yes but it's new, you've read about the USB C issues right? [22:04] marxjohnson: when did it start crashing? [22:04] popey: yeah i can understand that but if you buy some thing off amazon and say it's not cheap that's not proof XD [22:04] doesn't make it crap either [22:05] no doubt a firmware / software update will come soon enough [22:05] it looked to me like the cpu was badly stuttering [22:07] daftykins: His other point is that they'd taken away all the other ports, so 'yes but it's new' should have an easy way to fall back to stuff that works [22:08] the keyboard noise was interesting too [22:08] someone told him to go to settings and turn the keyboard volume down [22:08] yeah i just got to the keyboard noise part [22:08] which I can't tell if it was a joke, or serious :) [22:08] penguin42: right but Apple's decision to do that is 1) utterly stupid and 2) already a given to me before discussing the video content really [22:08] like, whether it's some audio haptic thing to make it feel more pro [22:09] i read they only have 0.55mm travel, that'd be nasty [22:09] I do actually like the idea of USB c everywhere [22:09] it's just a bit too soon [22:09] #courage [22:09] yeah, Apple always want to be the ones seen to be pushing the boundaries of course [22:10] and sites that review their gear can't even be honest because they'll be blacklisted from attending events, like The Register [22:10] heh it's an accolade to get banned by apple these days :) [22:11] they are quite the evil company [22:11] popey: should be fixed now :-) [22:13] yay [22:13] I had to wait for my Windows box to return from installing to get at the code :-p [22:13] diddledan, #1 Windows tester [22:13] :> [22:17] popey: first time was around 6-8 weeks ago (that I noticed) [22:24] ubuntu podcast time: I used Gentoo as my daily system back in 2005 era [22:27] gentoo anonymous [22:30] marxjohnson: sorry, no idea. [22:32] what role does dnsmasqd play in a server environment if a static IP is in use? [22:32] -d [22:35] * daftykins finds automagic stuff is always good to murder [22:41] ah i wish i could remember which technology it was, but there was definitely a new interface or display type that made ubuntu of whichever version at the time have that same mouse pointer lag