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* zmoylan-1i sends email to dm of this weekends d&d session to start windows now to get the updates out of the way so we can run the character generator software for 5 minutes... :-)04:30
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* daftykins sends instructions on how to use Windows to avoid that04:31
* zmoylan-pi hopes it wasn't using outlook/exchange combo as those never make it... :-P04:32
daftykinshaha, nah i don't use MS office or Outlook04:33
zmoylan-piso there's some hope for you... :-P04:34
zmoylan-pilotus notes? :-D04:34
daftykinsXD04:34
daftykinsi actually get by on the web UI of my personal gmail + now my work google apps (or that new name for it that i keep forgetting)04:34
daftykinsG... something04:34
zmoylan-pii remember getting a demo of that from a high end ibm bod when it was released... he didn't have a good answer when i asked why a single person at home would use it04:35
zmoylan-pi*demo of lotus notes04:35
daftykinsprobably the same reason i find folk always want Outlook for the basic sending of emails04:35
daftykinswhich one is it on Linux that seems to have copied the entire look of Outlook, hrmm04:36
zmoylan-pievolution...04:36
zmoylan-pii actually use that... once a week to suck all my emails down to one local file04:36
zmoylan-piclaws otherwise to imap my email on desktops04:36
daftykinsmmm kinda telling design04:36
zmoylan-pithe gmail app on android sucks04:36
daftykinsworks great for me04:36
zmoylan-piit's only marginally worse than accessing gmail using opera mini on dumb phone...04:37
daftykins2 taps to switch between personal and work accounts, or i can just view a combined inbox04:37
daftykinsoh are we talking some gmail client on some device that's likely to be outdated?04:37
zmoylan-pino, the gmail app04:37
daftykinsright but on what platform?04:38
zmoylan-piit doesn't like my 8" tablet and constantly shows connection errors when accessing email.  other apps are fine04:38
daftykinsand what's that tablet running?04:38
zmoylan-piandroid 5.104:39
daftykinshmm, well too many combinations to point the blame... never had any problems04:39
daftykinsif i had a different type of workload i would probably benefit from a local client for offline use, but thankfully i don't so i'm good :D04:40
zmoylan-pii think it's trying to be smart and ignore my request to keep 30 days of email for some labels local...04:40
daftykinsah well there's the problem!04:43
daftykinsyou know lubuntu murdered my old PIII Dell LS400 laptop :(04:43
zmoylan-piit was a handy feature to read email when not connected and get some work done04:43
daftykinsmmm in days of old, now we're online all the time!04:44
zmoylan-piin the study with the usb drive? /cluedo04:44
daftykinsoh it only had v1.1 and couldn't boot from it :)04:44
zmoylan-pii'm not. i'm off and away from the net a few hours per day even if my presence on irc suggests not... :-)04:45
zmoylan-piburn a cd with lubuntu...04:45
daftykinsthat's what i did do yes, installed it - and it killed the machine04:45
daftykinsno longer powers on04:45
zmoylan-pii'm not sure lubuntu has that power...04:46
daftykinsmurdered!04:46
daftykinswell, it happened04:46
daftykinsi'm wondering whether i should bother wiping the HDD in there, the only thing of mine it'd have is the password i put into the OS install04:46
daftykinsdoesn't seem like much of a risk04:46
zmoylan-pii have had ancient hardware die when i examined it... usually it's hardware on last legs and my moving/examining/upgrading it is the electronic straw that breaks the digital camels back04:47
daftykinsmmm maybe04:48
daftykinsquite the stash of gear to get rid of there though :> hoping the new head of IT at my old College will come and get it04:48
zmoylan-pii remember examining an ancient wang pre dos computer running dos 2 iirc... i just did a chkdsk and it died...04:48
daftykinsthat's pretty intensive ;)04:50
daftykinsbrb hot chocolate o'clock04:50
zmoylan-pinearly time for my ap to perform ritual reboot too04:51
daftykins:>05:04
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zmoylan-pithat reboot saves a lot of swearing at the lack of internetz once twice a week05:08
daftykinsso a WAP/router that grinds to a halt eh?05:09
zmoylan-piit'll allow you to connect but you won't get a single packet out of it until it's rebooted05:09
zmoylan-piit's web page will say everything is fine and dandy and it's properly connected but try and browse/download... nada05:10
daftykins:>05:11
daftykinsthe guy at my telco that tried to say i can't have the new service today asked if i wanted yet another router... :D05:11
zmoylan-piin my day we only had to deal with lgls... none of these lwps05:11
daftykinsi do wonder about the Technicolor ones they put out, unpatched Linux and all05:12
zmoylan-piyou should take it and make a token pole out out all the routers... :-)05:12
daftykinsthat could work05:12
daftykinsi might be committed to make a quirky outfit and a song, then05:13
zmoylan-piexcept for silly companies who make routers that are curved, rounded so you can't put other devices on top...05:13
daftykinsor shaped like a crab05:14
zmoylan-pian outfit made of micro:bits like scale armour... a coat of many distros...05:14
daftykinsi'm trying to think of a good native american nerdy name05:16
zmoylan-piis chief parallel processor taken? :-P05:20
daftykinsooh that works05:20
zmoylan-pid&d helps my word play... the puns will be thick and fast this weekend...05:21
zmoylan-pii did have a look for actual native american names but the lists are sparse and will be lacking any real technical links... http://www.babynameguide.com/categorynativeamerican.asp?strGender=&strAlpha=D&strCat=Native-American&strOrder=Name05:23
daftykins:D05:27
daftykinsooh can't wait for my new speeds to be enabled this morning (maybe) \o/05:27
zmoylan-piyou won't have delays in malware coming to you... the bots will be fighting over your router as it has a big pipe connected... :-)05:28
daftykinsmmm not even close to what you can get in England05:28
zmoylan-pii'm in ireland, mooching free wifi :-)05:29
daftykinsfree!?05:29
zmoylan-pii provide tech support and they provide free internetz05:29
zmoylan-piit's a price you can't beat...05:30
daftykinsbut that didn't extend to an AP that works reliably? 8D05:30
daftykinssuggestion of an AP, i should've said05:31
zmoylan-pii have replaced the ap twice... the power is twitchy and current ap is on surge protection as well05:31
daftykinselectricians always told me those are a scam05:31
zmoylan-pithey can be. these aren't05:31
* daftykins squints05:32
knightwisegood morning05:34
daftykinsgm sir o/05:34
knightwisehey daftykins , you up early05:35
daftykinsnope, late :)05:35
daftykinsstill on baseball time despite the season being over05:36
zmoylan-pihmmm, todays sun rise is 07:30 in dublin so not morning... :-)05:36
knightwiseah , we are still on DST05:44
knightwise6.30 here05:44
knightwiseMe listening to some great synthwave mix to wake up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6x2pz6aRLU05:44
* zmoylan-pi watches episode of cheers...05:47
daftykinswho's in daylight savings?05:47
daftykinsi'm in GMT :D05:47
zmoylan-piamerica switches a week later iui05:47
daftykinsja05:47
zmoylan-pi*aiui05:47
daftykinshrmm i thought knightwise was in England05:47
zmoylan-pibut did mention been on baseball time...05:48
zmoylan-pino, wait...05:48
daftykinsindeed, that was meeee!05:48
knightwisezmoylan-pi: :) Me in .be05:49
knightwiseI just sound like an american :p05:49
daftykinsD:05:49
daftykinswow Deadpool composer has quit Deadpool 2 now too05:50
knightwiseI think you cant sequel deadpool05:51
daftykinsi don't think it was risqué enough personally :P05:52
knightwisei'm not one for superhero movies i'm afraid.05:54
knightwisenearly fell asleep during antman05:54
zmoylan-pii wouldn't mind a new judge dredd movie...05:54
knightwiseTrue :) the one with stalone is getting stale05:54
zmoylan-pithere is _no_ stallone dredd movie *la* *la* *la*05:55
knightwisehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43-BefmjMFg05:58
knightwisegagaga05:58
daftykinsi preferred the Stallone one over the newer one05:59
zmoylan-pii would have loved to see the new one on big screen... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-eI5oLlIeY06:02
zmoylan-piit was much truer to the comics06:03
daftykinsah the first and last comics i read was the Beano and Dandy06:05
daftykinscan you even get the 'murican ones in the UK?06:05
zmoylan-piall over the place. a mate is a huge batman fan so gets a few dc comics06:05
daftykinssurprising!06:06
zmoylan-piwell 2000ad had alan moore as a writer so it's comics were better than the others06:07
diploMorning all08:05
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:39
knightwisehey brobostigon08:44
brobostigonhi knightwise08:45
knightwiseHows it hanging dude :)08:47
brobostigonknightwise: average, and you?09:02
JamesTaitGood morning all! Happy Friday, and happy Fountain Pen Day! 🖋 😁09:40
* brobostigon is brushed up and ready for a job interview at 1.10:32
foobarrygood luck10:33
brobostigonthnk you.10:33
foobarrymake a good impression in the first 6 seconds10:33
brobostigontry and not make my autism very obvious.10:34
foobarryin my experience the success/failure of ASD people in the workplace has a lot to do with managers10:36
brobostigoncertainly.10:37
foobarrynoticed some peolpe are getting past recaptcha10:49
foobarryon our pages10:49
brobostigonduring interview, its definatly clearer, people who are more open or not, and can tell, who i would work with better.10:49
foobarryfriend is hiring for this role. wants a mid level linux techy willing to learn AWS if they don't already know it http://www.argussoftware.com/careers/?p=job%2FoSjd4fwc11:06
foobarryany questions i can pass them on11:08
brobostigoncool, cheers.11:09
foobarrynobody else seems to be onthe chan today11:10
brobostigonit can be pretty quiet sometimes.11:11
zmoylan-pifingers crossed the interview goes well11:16
brobostigonthank you, :)11:17
* brobostigon goes up to the nearest mirror, puts on a will smith voice and says, 'i make this look good', :)11:18
zmoylan-pituxedo t-shirt? :-)11:18
brobostigonlolz v.211:18
brobostigondont you know, men in black, zmoylan-pi ?11:19
zmoylan-pii have it on dvd here somewhere... i know the reference... just going with a quick laugh...11:22
brobostigon:)11:22
MyrttiI just have the flu and time is limited otherwise too11:28
* zmoylan-pi passes the lemsip and a terabyte drive of tv shows...11:33
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diddledanpopey: the livepatch thing doesn't work for me13:40
popey"doesn't work"?13:40
diddledanConnection to the daemon failed: <url removed cos it has my token>: dial unix /var/snap/canonical-livepatch/15/livepatchd-priv.sock: connect: no such file or directory13:40
foobarrymy dog is sulking in the kids play room because he was told he couldn't lick his sore paw http://imgur.com/a/i9U5T13:40
diddledanthat's trying to run enable13:40
popeydiddledan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-livepatch-client13:41
zmoylan-piaat least no cone of shame for poor pooch13:42
diddledanI ran `sudo snap install canonical-livepatch` followed by `sudo canonical-livepatch enable <my key>` which reported the error13:42
diddledanI tried it on two separate systems, too13:42
* diddledan files bug13:43
popeythanks13:45
popeymaybe also poke people in #ubuntu-kernel13:45
diddledan#163924313:49
diddledanbug 163924313:49
lubotu3Error: Launchpad bug 1639243 could not be found13:49
diddledanoh?13:49
diddledanbot lagging?13:49
Laneyprivate13:49
diddledanaah ok13:49
diddledanresolved. I had an older snapd installed14:27
popeyyay14:29
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Asulilhi all17:09
daftykins\o17:10
AsulilDoes anyone know what is the independant and totally  neutral English newspaper?17:11
* daftykins walks off17:12
popeyAsulil: no such thing17:16
Asulilpopey: is it an indiscreet question?17:17
popeyIt's an offtopic question17:17
Asulilpoppey: I think you're stalinist right?17:18
popeyYou can go away now17:18
daftykins...17:18
Asulilpopey: you can go away yourself17:19
daftykinsooh, them's fighting words17:19
Asulildaftykins: our friend popey seems to be 7 or 10 years old17:20
daftykinsAsulil: leave now please17:20
Asulildaftykins: leave what?17:20
daftykinsthe channel...17:20
Asulildaftykins: why should I leave?17:21
Asulildaftykins:leave yourself17:21
daftykinssigh, kids today17:21
Asulilsuch kids here17:21
Asulilunbelievable17:22
PaulW2UAsulil: I directed you here as to me English = British or UK. If you are not wanting a British answer then you need to clarify by what you meant by "English". </sigh>17:22
AsulilPaulW2U: I mean English language either in UK, Australia or US..etc17:25
AsulilPaulW2U: is that clear now?17:28
PaulW2UAsulil: Then you have probably have asked a question that can't be answered fully17:28
PaulW2UHere in the UK radio and TV *have* to be independent but as popey has already said that is not true of the press who are biased towards one party or another17:30
PaulW2UObviously I can't speak for other English speaking countries ......17:30
AsulilPaulW2U: I agree, I just asked a question, it's about  people's opinion17:31
AsulilPaulW2U: can you gibe a name of one or two newspaper in UK?17:32
Asulil*give17:32
popeyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_the_United_Kingdom17:33
penguin42popey: Whatever people think about that Mac review; Apple have just announced a major price cut on all their USB-C/thunderbolt adapters19:58
daftykinsXD19:59
penguin42dropped the multiport adapter from $70 to $50 - so there's enough pissed off people to make them move19:59
zmoylan-piso hipsters won't need to carry dongles with them, they can just buy a new one at their destination... :-)19:59
penguin42zmoylan-pi: It surprises me they dont have beard clips for them20:00
zmoylan-pioddly i connect fold back clips to all my head set cables so that i can neatly fold the cable up and grip it with the clip.  and or clip the clip when i'm using my head set so the volume control is held in same spot on fleece20:01
diddledan_moo20:07
zmoylan-pi*bark*20:07
popeygolly20:57
daftykinsso who in England wouldn't mind giving a file from my home web server a test download to see how consistent + fast it is? :D20:59
popeysure21:00
popeygive us a url21:00
daftykinsrightyo, i shall PM it, just some old bluetooth driver for some laptop21:00
popeykk21:00
popey~1MB/s21:01
daftykinsi have 10Mb upload now so there should be a nice consistent 1MB/sec21:01
daftykinsif it dances up and down at all that might be a sign it's flaky21:01
daftykinsmmm neat-o, thank you sir21:02
popeynp21:02
popey2016-11-04 21:02:27 (1.11 MB/s) - ‘Bluetooth_Atheros_7.2.0.60_W7x64_A.zip’ saved [110903225/110903225]21:02
popeyrock solid 1MB/s21:02
daftykinsooh :D21:02
daftykinsthat's great21:02
diddledan_https://media.giphy.com/media/3oriOh8h4qHcAqN07S/giphy.gif22:58

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