[00:00] <linxeh> Bumbolicious: as in run that - it should tell you the dependencies that are being called so we can see more detail over what's slow for each step
[00:00] <Bumbolicious> gimme a min
[00:01] <linxeh> Bumbolicious: also, if you aren't running any services on it (eg it's not a server) you might be able to disable NetworkManager-wait-online.service, but I'm relatively new to this systemd nonsense; I tend to run LTS releases on servers for some time, and run macs for client machines (due to some commercial applications)
[00:01] <linxeh> I'm sure someone more versed in modern Ubuntu behaviour will chime in if I'm talking nonsense
[00:02] <Bumbolicious> @linxeh it's not a server
[00:04] <nacc> Bumbolicious: fwiw, all of those times are *way* higher than on my laptop, and it's defintiely a bit worrisome your disk is so high, probably means you are seeing effects of IO
[00:04] <tase> How would I go about creating a systemctl service that starts a tmux session with a command? Is this possible?
[00:04] <nacc> Bumbolicious: in comparison, e.g., snapd.firstboot.service on my laptop takes 906 ms
[00:04] <linxeh> nacc: what HDD is it ?
[00:05] <linxeh> Bumbolicious: and same question to you
[00:05] <nacc> linxeh: well, mine is an SSD, that's what i mean -- if the disk is slow as to show up as about 1/5-1/6 of the boot time, that's a problem, imo
[00:06] <energizer1> Ubuntu 16.04, no internet. Ethernet plugged in, other computers on switch have internet. nmcli g says connected + enabled. But no internet.
[00:06] <linxeh> welcome to 5400 or slower drives :)
[00:06] <linxeh> that age, if it's a laptop, it could easily be a 4,200
[00:07] <Bumbolicious> @linxeh http://paste.ubuntu.com/23423134/ here it is critical-chain. 4200 or 5400 as I recall
[00:07] <linxeh> though maybe not with that quad cpu
[00:07] <linxeh>                         └─run-user-1000.mount @33.996s
[00:07] <linxeh> ouch
[00:07] <Bashing-om> energizer1: 'ping -c3 8.8.8.8 ' positive result .. and ' ping -c3 ubuntu.come ' fails ?
[00:08] <linxeh> Bumbolicious: you got any USB storage devices plugged in, or a CDROM in the drive etc?
[00:08] <Bumbolicious> @linxeh nope nothing
[00:08] <Bumbolicious> @linxeh no cdrom connectec
[00:08] <Bumbolicious> *connected
[00:09] <linxeh> Bumbolicious: is it a dual boot machine with windows or some other OS ?
[00:09] <ryasdgasgas> @linxeh bumbolicious here. nope clean and fresh only lubuntu
[00:10] <energizer1> Bashing-om: negative
[00:10] <linxeh> actually I'm misreading that log
[00:11] <linxeh> looks like it's apparmor and NetworkManager taking the time
[00:11] <linxeh> wireless internet, or wired?
[00:11] <Bashing-om> energizer1: Ouch then .. can you ping the local host ' ping -c3 127.0.0.1 ' ?
[00:12] <syeh> Hi, does anyone here happen to know how ubuntu gnome resizes the wall paper upon a resolution change?  I'm running into a strange issue where going from 800x600 -> 1024x768, and the wall paper stays in 800x600 size.
[00:12] <ryasdgasgas> @linxeh wire
[00:12] <linxeh> ryasdgasgas: ok, and no wireless in the machine? how long does it take to boot if the machine isn't plugged into the LAN ?
[00:12] <ryasdgasgas> @linxeh shall i disable ntp.service first?
[00:13] <alden> hi there.  im having a problem whenever attempting to resume after a suspend, this is on a Lenovo X1 Carbon laptop.  It's just a black screen, cannot ever wake back up ever suspend, reproduces almost every time.  I updates BIOS settings already and tried disabling some sleep features.  I recently dug into syslog and I see some definite crashes, anyone could
[00:13] <alden> take a look and see if they can make any more sense of it than me, or suggest solution? https://dpaste.de/Jox8
[00:16] <energizer1> Bashing-om: yes, pinged self successfully
[00:16] <ryasdgasgas> @linxeh you there?
[00:17] <Bashing-om> energizer1: Well that is good news .. on the network .. can you ping your router ?
[00:17] <veter> Hello, does some body know how to fix this eror http://storage6.static.itmages.com/i/16/1104/h_1478218607_8536038_7dcbdf20c3.png ? I see it every time after boot.
[00:19] <FatherWh0_> jordan_us: I repaired windows old school. thx for your help
[00:19] <linxeh> ryasdgasgas: sorry went to get a drink
[00:20] <linxeh> ryasdgasgas: ntp service looks like its only taking 100ms
[00:20] <ryuu> @linxeh -4 seconds with no lan connected
[00:20] <FatherWh0_> would anyone advise an antivirus so I can be sure whatever hit my firefox isn't still  in there and that doesn't happen again?
[00:20] <Jordan_U> FatherWh0_: Great. Lets make sure that it won't happen again though. Please pastebin the output of "debconf-show grub-pc".
[00:20] <linxeh> ryasdgasgas: the @xx.yyy seconds means the time it started after boot, the +zzzms  is how long that task supposedly took
[00:20] <linxeh> ryasdgasgas: hmm
[00:21] <ryuu> @linxeh so it's something with the networkmanager service...
[00:22] <ryuu> @linxeh also ─apparmor.service @6.609s +8.653s. any idea about that?
[00:22] <linxeh> ryuu: it could be, but that might be just a symptom of something else. can you paste the output of dmesg into something? be warned - there will be lots of it
[00:23] <linxeh> ryuu: apparmor is known to be slow; these things could be IO related
[00:24] <ryuu> @linxeh http://paste.ubuntu.com/23423183/ there you go. dmseg
[00:24] <linxeh> ryuu: however, on my NAS (no GUI, Ubuntu 16.04.1) it took +123ms
[00:24] <ryuu> *dmesg
[00:24] <energizer1> Bashing-om: im plugged into a switch, which [is plugged into a wall and also into some routers]
[00:24] <linxeh> ryuu: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8400ba1381d2774dde1c4351127f6bcd
[00:25] <energizer1> Bashing-om: i can ping 192.168.0.1, which seems to be one of the routers attatched to the switch
[00:25] <linxeh> ryuu: that's on a system with an older SSD, and a Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU G1610T @ 2.30GHz (16 GB ram)
[00:25] <linxeh> ryuu: ok, taking a look
[00:26] <ryuu> @linxeh Q6600, 4gb ram, Lubuntu, HDD 5400rpm
[00:26] <linxeh> ryuu: ok, perhaps IPv6 is playing up - your LAN is presumably just IPV4?
[00:26] <ryuu> @linxeh i think so
[00:27] <linxeh> ryuu: can you paste the output of ifconfig ?
[00:28] <Bashing-om> energizer1: Well .. we follow the path .. we know in house is good (host) and we know cannot get onto the web .. so what is in between ? well a swirch and a router .. can you ping that router ' ip route ' to get the info .
[00:28] <ryuu> @linxeh i've set ipv6 to ignore btw. which specific line do you want from ifconfig?
[00:29] <linxeh> ryuu: well, it was more to see if any ipv6 stuff was there. was going to suggest you try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4 (the "Permanently disable ipv6 in 14.04" bit is probably still relevant)
[00:29] <linxeh> though no doubt systemd changed sysctl.conf too
[00:30] <energizer1> Bashing-om: sorry i didn't quite understand what command you're recommending
[00:31] <ryuu> @linxeh i'm disabling it right now
[00:33] <linxeh> ryuu: however, I think it might be clutching at straws. I'm seeing a 27 second delay there from it trying to start the network to it being ready at the end - at the link level (lines 782-786)
[00:34] <ryuu> @linxeh so what should i do?
[00:34] <Bashing-om> energizer1: Oh my bad communications skills .. what returns for ' ip route ' . ? See if the machine has a network path .
[00:36] <linxeh> ryuu: I've just been googling - some suggest turning off IGMP on your router/switch, but there seem to have been lots of issues with that chipset (but that might just mean it's very common / popular)
[00:37] <linxeh> ryuu: some suggest trying the r8168 driver instead, but that's beyond what I'd be comfortable advising
[00:37] <linxeh> ryuu: I take it the ipv6 thing didn't make a difference?
[00:37] <ryuu> @linxeh gimme a sec
[00:37] <energizer1> Bashing-om: default via 192.168.0.1 dev enp0s31f6 proto static metric 100 \ 169.254.0.0/16 dev enp... \ 192.168.0.0/24 dev enp...
[00:38] <linxeh> ryuu: someone with the same issue it seems - https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/299569
[00:39] <fatherwh0> http://pastebin.com/fDR20uQD
[00:39] <ryuu> @linxeh can't get ipv6 disabled..
[00:39] <linxeh> ryuu: you may need to edit the grub config and reinstall- one of the later comments on that last links explains roughly what to do there
[00:40] <FatherWh0_> jordan_u: sry should have pinged you on that.
[00:41] <Bashing-om> energizer1: well the gateway is " 192.168.0.1 " and you say you can ping it ... I honestly do not know what to say that you can not route out of the router .
[00:41] <ryuu> @linxeh gonna restart now gimme a min
[00:43] <emitattuo> How difficult would writing a driver for a Novation Ultranova be, given this information?  https://focusritedevelopmentteam.wordpress.com/category/linux/
[00:44] <Jordan_U> FatherWh0_: OK. That shows that the grub-pc package is still configured to install grub to the internal drive on grub-pc upgrades. Lets fix that.
[00:44] <energizer1> Bashing-om: `ping 8.8.8.8` says `from 192.168.0.1` ... destination net unreachable
[00:45] <Jordan_U> FatherWh0_: Please run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc --frontend text".
[00:45] <ryuu_> @linxeh ipv6 disabled. same time
[00:46] <lordcirth> emitattuo, if one was experienced in writing audio drivers, probably not too bad.
[00:46] <ryuu_> @linxeh i'm on
[00:47] <FatherWh0_> jordan_u: that gave me "Linux command line:"
[00:47] <Jordan_U> FatherWh0_: It should ask you some questions. Leave them at their defaults for all except install devices.
[00:47] <Jordan_U> FatherWh0_: Hit enter to accept the default (which is empty).
[00:47] <Bashing-om> energizer1: As you can ping the router . will take some one with the greater LAN experience than I have to advise .
[00:48] <extinct_potato> How the heck do i change plymouth theme?
[00:48] <extinct_potato> i've been searching but can't find any solution.
[00:48] <extinct_potato> other distros have plymouth-set-default-theme utility, but ubuntu of course does not.
[00:48] <emitattuo> Thanks, lordcirth. I'm unfortunately not at all experienced in writing audio drivers, or anything, for that matter.  It seems like at least some of the groundwork is laid out in that post.
[00:48] <FatherWh0_> jordan_u: ok which option 1-7
[00:49] <lordcirth> extinct_potato, http://askubuntu.com/questions/2007/how-do-i-change-the-plymouth-bootscreen#2292 ?
[00:49] <Jordan_U> FatherWh0_: Please pastebin the output so that I can see the options listed.
[00:50] <extinct_potato> does not work lordcirth. it tells me that there is nothing to configure.
[00:50] <FatherWh0_> jordan_u: it's waiting for input. I don't know how to switch to outputting to a file on the fly
[00:50] <extinct_potato> i modified an existing theme, and apparently you need to "register" it, but of course i can't find how.
[00:50] <FatherWh0_> jordan_u: it's asking what to do about modified configuration file grub.
[00:51] <FatherWh0_> jordan_u: winsall maintainer's, keep local, compair
[00:51] <Jordan_U> FatherWh0_: Select the text and either right click to copy or use ctrl+shift+c , then paste into http://pastebin.ubuntu.com .
[00:51] <Jordan_U> FatherWh0_: Compare.
[00:52] <fatherwh0> jordan_u: http://pastebin.com/1BWE4NYm
[00:52] <FatherWh0_> jordan_u: this is where being used to windows shows. lol. sry, didnt know you could do that.
[00:54] <Jordan_U> FatherWh0_: 3
[00:54] <Jordan_U> FatherWh0_: (Then pastebin the new output)
[00:55] <poinpoin> exit
[00:55] <fatherwh0> jordan_u: http://pastebin.com/6ZVfGkqz
[00:55] <extinct_potato> what a fantastic thing. nobody knows how to apply a custom plymouth theme in ubuntu. like, there is no up to date information whatsoever.
[00:57] <extinct_potato> "/lib/plymouth" apparently is deprecated, since it is not present in the system
[00:57] <linxeh> extinct_potato: sudo update-initramfs -u
[00:58] <Jordan_U> fatherwh0: Do you want a nice splash screen during boot, or do you want to see verbose white text on a black screen?
[00:58] <linxeh> extinct_potato: or something. it's read from initramfs at boot or something
[00:58] <FatherWh0_> jordan_u: prefer verbose
[00:58] <extinct_potato> linxeh, this command only updates initramfs. it DOES NOT provide me with selection of custom theme.
[00:59] <extinct_potato> i appreciate the help, but please, understand the command you are trying to explain first.
[00:59] <Jordan_U> FatherWh0_: Great, then "2".
[00:59] <linxeh> extinct_potato: right, but presumably you've installed them in /usr/share/plymouth/themes and done the update-alteratives thing? or has that all changed too?
[00:59] <extinct_potato> that is correct linxeh
[00:59] <OerHeks> extinct_potato, unity-tweak-tool might be a help with themes
[01:00] <extinct_potato> but after update-alternatives it says that there is nothing to configure, and that there is only one theme.
[01:00] <linxeh> ugh :/
[01:00] <OerHeks> !info unity-tweak-tool
[01:00] <OerHeks> you will find all hidden themes there
[01:00] <extinct_potato> OerHeks, i am not talking about Unity themes (i do not even run Unity).
[01:01] <linxeh> extinct_potato: seen this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/775301/unable-to-use-a-custom-splash-screen-in-ubuntu-16-04lts
[01:01] <OerHeks> extinct_potato, so what version are you using then?
[01:02] <FatherWh0_> jordan_u: ok on this option screen, Im assuming sda is the 'right' answer but is there any harm in not installing the grub to my boot drive? I'd be fine will telling the pc to boot to external when I want linux unless that'll cause issues.
[01:02] <extinct_potato> I am running Xubuntu OerHeks
[01:02] <FatherWh0_> jordan_u: sda (1) is the bios boot drive but a simple F9 is not offensive to me.
[01:02] <extinct_potato> Hey, this is something linxeh !
[01:03] <extinct_potato> this actually addresses my problem.
[01:03] <extinct_potato> thank you so god damn much.
[01:03] <linxeh> extinct_potato: well, hopefully it will work! it is stackoverflow and linux related after all...
[01:04] <Jordan_U> FatherWh0_: I would say that for you "sdb" is the right answer. Note, do not select a partition like "sdb1".
[01:04] <linxeh> meh stackexchange :)
[01:04] <extinct_potato> it should work linxeh. what i do not understand is why ubuntu changed the layout, preventing users from changing the themes.
[01:04] <extinct_potato> ridiculous.
[01:05] <linxeh> extinct_potato: progress. and systemd. everything is systemd's fault.
[01:05] <extinct_potato> i get the meme, but sadly systemd has nothing to do with it linxeh
[01:05] <linxeh> :)
[01:06] <linxeh> look, if systemd is responsible for the latest macbook pro's being somewhat underspecified and overpriced I'm sure it can be responsible for splashscreens not working :)
[01:06] <extinct_potato> haha fair enough
[01:07] <fatherwh0> jordan_u: http://pastebin.com/C9mNhUzY
[01:07] <eka> For using dropbox should I install nautilus-dropbox or the dropbox package from Dropbox itself?
[01:07] <JFlash> hi, what are the limitations for ubuntu running from a thumb drive?
[01:08] <JFlash> i want to test ubuntu studio to control a musical keyboard running some digital audio software with VTS plugins..will I be able to do it from a thumb drive?
[01:09] <JFlash> can I install VTS plugins and what not whit the OS running from a thumb drive?
[01:09] <Rarrikins> JFlash: Yes.
[01:09] <emitattuo> JFlash, You mean VST plugins?
[01:09] <JFlash> yes sorry
[01:10] <JFlash> Rarrikins, so what are the limitations?
[01:10] <Jordan_U> fatherwh0: That is correct. And I just realized that that was what you had configured already to start with. Two strikes against me since my advice also made Windows fail to boot for you earlier. Sorry, but everything should be good to go now.
[01:10] <JFlash> Rarrikins, will it install softare on the harddrive or only on the thumb drive?
[01:10] <emitattuo> JFlash, only on the thumb drive.
[01:11] <Rarrikins> JFlash: Either you have the disk as writeable and you're limited in space that way, or it uses a RAM disk and you're limited in space that way.
[01:11] <protocol_hive> hello world
[01:11] <linxeh> protocol_hive: Saluton Mondo!!
[01:12] <Rarrikins> JFlash: It depends on whether it's using a RAM disk or not. If RAM disk, it isn't stored permanently. If the drive with Ubuntu is writeable, it will use up space there.
[01:12] <FatherWh0_> jordan_u: lol, it's no worries. All fine now and I've learned a lot. Nothing like a crash coarse. Last question: since I got my browser hacked what antivirus would you advise? I'd like to make sure this system is clean.
[01:12] <JFlash> what about performance and memory wise, will there be limitations aother that read access on the thumb drive
[01:12] <Rarrikins> JFlash: It won't use the hard drive.
[01:12] <Rarrikins> JFlash: USB drives are generally slow compared to hard drives.
[01:13] <protocol_hive> linxeh: how are things?
[01:13] <JFlash> well the whole point is to be able to skip latency which is common in midi software
[01:13] <Rarrikins> JFlash: However, programs load themselves into RAM, so once that's done, it should run just as fast as otherwise.
[01:14] <JFlash> but I suppose the instrument emulation will be completely done in memory and CPU only so there is no IO other than the USB midi io itself?
[01:14] <Rarrikins> JFlash: One method you might consider is to shrink the current hard drive OS's partition and install Ubuntu onto a new partition.
[01:14] <Rarrikins> JFlash: Then, if it doesn't suit you, you can delete the Ubuntu partition and resize the old partition back.
[01:14] <linxeh> protocol_hive: good, I guess :)
[01:15] <JFlash> it's a laptop so the SSD is already small but yeah.. that's also a possibility thanks for sugesting
[01:15] <emitattuo> JFlash, using a faster (USB 3.0) drive would help.  The UbuntuStudio variant of Ubuntu is already set up for that sort of thing.
[01:15] <emitattuo> That sort of thing being music production
[01:15] <JFlash> cool, i do have usb 3
[01:15] <JFlash> Rarrikins, emitattuo thank you for your help
[01:15] <protocol_hive> linxeh: have any experience with tor routers running on a ras pi?
[01:16] <Rarrikins> JFlash: No problem.
[01:16] <emitattuo> JFlash, You're welcome.
[01:16] <JFlash> make america great again!
[01:16] <JFlash> just kidding. haha
[01:16] <JFlash> see ya
[01:17] <linxeh> protocol_hive: not really; the raspberry pi is probably not that relevant though. tor isn't something I really have a need for either I'm afraid
[01:18] <protocol_hive> linxeh: i see, just thought id ask
[01:18] <emitattuo> There may be a distribution just for using it as such, protocol_hive
[01:18] <drjam> mmmmm pi's im trying to learn on one currently
[01:18] <drjam> but for dashboards and monitoring
[01:19] <linxeh> drjam: for most things you are better off with a VM, unless you want to do the hardware side or are trying to specifically learn ARM / pi stuff
[01:20] <protocol_hive> drjam: yea, ive been looking into one for a while. was thinking of making a mobile hotspot using a dist and tor. just something ive been thinking of.
[01:20] <linxeh> drjam: don't get me wrong, I've got several pis of different vintages and configurations (and various ARM dev boards too)
[01:21] <drjam> linxeh, yeah ive got a couple of hyper-v servers here for the dashboard stuff when i gert to it properly (i have ubuntu and grafana, JUST learned how to use it)
[01:21] <drjam> protocol_hive, that wold be cool i reckon
[01:21] <orlock> protocol_hive: look at gl-inet gear for that sort of thing
[01:21] <drjam> low power and sits ini a corner
[01:21] <orlock> protocol_hive: $30, 2 nic's, USB, wireless, other features depending on the model, openwrt from the factory
[01:22] <protocol_hive> orlock: ill look into it now. I just ordered my pi and a cool little 2.8 screen.
[01:22] <drjam> i just did a google for that and got....im not even sure what iim looking at
[01:22] <orlock> these arrive in a usable state
[01:22] <drjam> siterankD ?
[01:22] <Jordan_U> FatherWh0_: That's an interesting question. It's hard to say what happened to you with firefox, though maybe looking at the browser history with a tool other than firefox could lead you to find what website you accidentally went to, and then you could figure out exactly what happened. I will make an educated guess though that whatever caused the popups to keep coming up whenever you started firefox A:
[01:23] <Jordan_U> Was not OS specific, so it probably would have acted exactly the same had you visited the page with Firefox on Windows and B: Would not have shown up in a Windows antivirus scan. There are options for antivirus in linux, but generally the types of threats you need to worry about in linux are the type that wouldn't show up from an antivirus scan.
[01:25] <FatherWh0_> jordan_u: In windows my antivirus does protect me from malicious web scripts like that one. Is there any similar types of protection in linux on the browser end?
[01:26] <Jordan_U> FatherWh0_: If you want to, you can install clamAV, which is generally used by linux users who want to protect Windows users. For example, if you are running an email filter or file share on a linux box. I have heard that it's not as good at finding Windows viruses as some other proprietary antiviruses, but is still good for it's intended purpose. You can also install AVG free, which has a linux version.
[01:26] <Jordan_U> I think that if you do so you will find that it will show your old firefox directory (if you've still kept it) as not having any viruses, which probably won't be very comforting as you know that there was something causing problems and it was likely mallicious.
[01:27] <linxeh> by the time a virus checker picks anything up it's likely no longer a real threat. run selinux, clear profiles regularly, browse anything suspect in a VM.
[01:36] <OerHeks> FatherWh0_, never thought about teamviewer might be the culprit?
[01:38] <FatherWh0_> -jordan_u: again much thx for your help.
[01:39] <apb1963_> Can't get Office 2000 to run under POL... details here: https://www.playonlinux.com/en/topic-14866.html
[01:40] <Jordan_U> FatherWh0_: You're welcome.
[01:40] <crazyhorse18> can someone tell me how to open a gnome-terminal window.. then run a command, then keep the window open without closing it?
[01:41] <Jordan_U> apb1963_: Try asking in #playonlinux .
[01:42] <apb1963_> Jordan_U, didn't think to look for the channel.  thanks!
[01:43] <apb1963_> although i did think that if someone in the POL camp new the answer they'd respond in the forum.  Only 41 users in that channel :/  but I asked anyway.
[01:43] <apb1963_> s/new/knew
[01:46] <Jordan_U> apb1963_: You're welcome.
[01:47] <SpeedrunnerG55> im using ubuntu 16.10.1 and i cant update my software because i aparantly have broken packages (2)
[01:48] <SpeedrunnerG55> synaptic package manager would not show mt any packages with broken dependencies
[01:48] <Bashing-om> SpeedrunnerG55: Show the channel - in a pastebin site - the outputs of terminal commands ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' we get the errors then in contect .
[01:49] <Bashing-om> context*
[01:49] <SpeedrunnerG55> ok
[01:51] <SpeedrunnerG55> http://pastebin.com/s223xCCp
[01:51] <SpeedrunnerG55> her
[01:52] <Bashing-om> !info libgnuradio-iqbalance
[01:53] <SpeedrunnerG55> ok?
[01:53] <Bashing-om> SpeedrunnerG55: ^ PPA ? .. show ' apt-cache policy libgnuradio-iqbalance ' .
[01:53] <Bashing-om> !info libgnuradio-iqbalance xenial
[01:54] <SpeedrunnerG55> i should remove it?
[01:54] <SpeedrunnerG55> thatl remove my gqrx program
[01:55] <Bashing-om> SpeedrunnerG55: Depends on what is broken, what it takes to fix , if it is supported .. if the maintainer is willing .
[01:55] <zukermad> hi
[01:55] <Bashing-om> !info gr-osmosdr xenial
[01:56] <SpeedrunnerG55> http://pastebin.com/nPqyqPBF
[01:56] <SpeedrunnerG55> this?
[01:59] <apb1963_> SpeedrunnerG55, Is gr-osmosdr something you use?
[01:59] <Bashing-om> SpeedrunnerG55: Yeah .. you can try removing/re-installing gr-osmosd. OR ppa-pruge to revert to what is in the repo .
[01:59] <SpeedrunnerG55> i used to play with gqrx
[02:00] <apb1963_> SpeedrunnerG55, Well, if you don't use it anymore.... removing it would likely solve your dependency problem... Bashing-om agree?
[02:01] <apb1963_> oh you did already.  nvm :)
[02:02] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: SpeedrunnerG55 Uh Huh .. I am a firm believer in if it ain's used get rid of it .. keep it clean behind .
[02:03] <SpeedrunnerG55> ok, i removed libgnuradio-iqbalance
[02:03] <apb1963_> Bashing-om, I'm a firm believe in if it ain't broke don't fix it... this was broke.
[02:03] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: Yeah .. remove that sucker .
[02:03] <apb1963_> SpeedrunnerG55, try upgrading again
[02:04] <SpeedrunnerG55> still updateing
[02:04] <SpeedrunnerG55> i think its workingnow
[02:05] <SpeedrunnerG55> and i think i ment to say 16.04.1
[02:05] <SpeedrunnerG55> not 10
[02:05] <apb1963_> Bashing-om, my booties are still hosed... one of these days I'll be back for help with it.  Not today though.
[02:06] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: K. Patience is a virtue, Me I waiting replacing my Bios chip, see if that heals my system .
[02:06] <apb1963_> hmm!
[02:07] <apb1963_> Bashing-om, what makes you think that's the problem?
[02:11] <Bashing-om> apb1963_: New harware old system . I do not want to enable HWE so not much other choice than to see if upgrading Bios will not help .
[02:12] <SpeedrunnerG55> nope didnt work
[02:13] <SpeedrunnerG55> ill pate the results
[02:13] <SpeedrunnerG55> http://pastebin.com/Ka1jX9U0
[02:13] <SpeedrunnerG55> here
[02:16] <apb1963_> I would run an the autoremove it suggests and then re-run the whole thing to get a cleaner report.  Too much going on in this one.
[02:17] <apb1963_> the new report will be focused on just the errors rather than all the successes this one shows.
[02:17] <john52> hi there ,
[02:17] <john52> anyone can help in Cm 13
[02:17] <apb1963_> SpeedrunnerG55, ^^^^
[02:19] <shirzad> shirzad
[02:19] <shirzad> safari
[02:19] <shirzad> i dont know
[02:20] <shirzad> adout useing the app
[02:23] <kshah> I seemed to have borked my sshd somehow, on Ubuntu 14.04 I ran a non-specific apt-get upgrade which bumped up openssh-client openssh-server openssh-sftp-server openssl, I can no longer shell into my droplet (digitalocean). I’m at a loss and all ssh -v is revealing is connection refused. I see the attempt in /var/log/auth.log with: “session closed for user root” “session closed for user root by deploy” (deploy being the loc
[02:23] <kshah> user)
[02:23] <kshah> I’m at a loss of how to further diagnose
[02:23] <kshah> and running that upgrade was just flat out stupid
[02:24] <SpeedrunnerG55> http://pastebin.com/NEMNJ55K
[02:24] <SpeedrunnerG55> that better?
[02:25] <SpeedrunnerG55> nope
[02:25] <SpeedrunnerG55> i didnt hit y
[02:25] <SpeedrunnerG55> http://pastebin.com/PeuuycRJ
[02:25] <SpeedrunnerG55> there
[02:25] <kshah> ufw says my ssh port is open and okay, I don’t use fail2ban, my ssh service launches, however when I `ps aux | grep ssh` I only see the grep command, not sure if it actually running
[02:26] <xwalk> kshah: What machine was the upgrade run on?
[02:26] <kshah> Ubuntu 14.04
[02:26] <xwalk> So the droplet?
[02:26] <kshah> yes
[02:26] <xwalk> Have you tried using DO's console access to restart sshd?
[02:26] <kshah> yes
[02:26] <kshah> it reports it restarts, but I still can’t connect
[02:27] <Jordan_U> kshah: Are you using key or password based authentication?
[02:27] <kshah> key
[02:27] <john52> torrent is no more :'(
[02:27] <Bashing-om> SpeedrunnerG55: "  Package virtualbox is not configured yet. " so ya want to keep VM ?
[02:28] <SpeedrunnerG55> can i keep the virtual disks?
[02:28] <kshah> yeah, honestly, I don’t even think sshd is running
[02:28] <SpeedrunnerG55> and use them when virtualbox it configured
[02:28] <kshah> I should be able to grep for that pid
[02:29] <kshah> if I “sudo service ssh restart“ -> “ssh stop/waiting“ -> “ssh start/running"
[02:29] <kshah> but perhaps its dying right there, and I’m unaware of a tool to check validity of a sshd_config
[02:29] <apb1963_> Bashing-om, I would start with what's on the "kept back" list before tackling virtualbox.
[02:30] <Bashing-om> SpeedrunnerG55: sure ! .. 1st though fully update the system > however, there is " nvidia-opencl-icd-361 " depending on how the graphic's driver was installed, might break .
[02:30] <Rarrikins> kshah: vim does nice syntax coloring of various types of files like that one, showing you whether something is as expected.
[02:31] <Rarrikins> kshah: It's obviously not going to find all possible problems, but it'll find some.
[02:31] <kshah> Rarrikins: that’s a good idea, will use, I know there are weird particularities around the Subsystem syntax which I am using
[02:31] <kshah> and Match Group
[02:31] <kshah> I run an internal-sftp
[02:37] <xwalk> kshah: Anything useful from increasing verbosity at all?
[02:38] <kshah> xwalk: yes, debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0
[02:38] <kshah> well, not necessarily useful, but additional
[02:44] <xwalk> kshah: I'm not too sure what else it would be other than a PermitRootLogin setting in the droplet's configuration at this point. My knowledge of ssh is fairly limited, though.
[02:46] <kshah> xwalk: I heard you, I’m equally at a loss.. I feel like maybe some pregenerated keys or something are no longer valid, maybe something needs to be regenerated. But I have no clue if I’m completely making that up or not
[02:46] <kshah> I tried dpkg-reconfigure
[02:46] <kshah> to no avail
[02:49] <Jordan_U> kshah: Can you ssh to localhost?
[02:59] <gingeropolous> Howdy. Recently tried installing AMDGPU-Pro 16.40 and then using the AMD-APP-SDKInstaller-v3.0.130.136-GA on Ubuntu 16
[02:59] <gingeropolous> for whatever reason, the ld paths or something didn't get configured right
[02:59] <gingeropolous> gcc could never find lOpenCL
[02:59] <gingeropolous> I removed the 16.40 driver and then installed the 16.3 driver and everything worked fine.
[03:00] <gingeropolous> dunno if this is the best spot for this, but there it is
[03:04] <superkuh> Gotta get those 480s mining?
[03:04] <gingeropolous> hehehe
[03:04] <zeli> hi everyone
[03:04] <gingeropolous> no, im trying to get 8 of them running on one board because.... i have 24 dimension goggles
[03:05] <superkuh> Of course. Silly me.
[03:05] <zeli> anybody know how can i umount my partition after reboot on my external encrypted hdd? When i whant mount i have msg: Error mounting /dev/dm-5 at /media/zeli/b1aaf831-1bec-4682-9b95-b08644987171: Command-line `mount -t "ext4" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid" "/dev/dm-5" "/media/zeli/b1aaf831-1bec-4682-9b95-b08644987171"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: /dev/mapper/oldsm-root is already mounted or
[03:05] <gingeropolous> 24-d
[03:06] <zeli> /media/zeli/b1aaf831-1bec-4682-9b95-b08644987171 busy
[03:07] <zeli> i check 'mount' command and i dont have mounted this resource
[03:08] <zeli> but 'lvscan' print active /dev/oldsm/root and swap_1
[03:09] <Bashing-om> zeli: Show the channel in a pastebin site the outputs of terminal commands ' sudo blkid ; cat /etc/fstab ' see if we can spot the issue .
[03:10] <zeli> http://pastebin.com/WPdpdExK
[03:11] <zeli> one i mount my ecrypted hdd and ecrypt my home directory
[03:11] <zeli> but now i cant becose busy or mounted
[03:12] <zeli> before mount hdd on nautilius and ecrypt /home/username from command ecryptfs-recover-private
[03:18] <zeli> Bashing-om: are u there?
[03:21] <Bashing-om> zeli: Yeah here ,, look'n at how we can find " /dev/mapper/oldsm-root: UUID="b1aaf831-1bec-4682-9b95-b08644987171" TYPE="ext4" is mapped to . what returns ' ls -l /dev/disk/by-label ' ?
[03:22] <zeli>  /dev/mapper/oldsm-root -> ../dm-5
[03:23] <zeli> i try umount /dev/mapper/oldsm-root or /dev/dm-5 but i see only i not mounted
[03:25] <Bashing-om> zeli: Sorry, I do not know enough of how raid arrays are built to advise .
[03:26] <zeli> heh
[03:26] <zeli> maybe u know how can i deactive resourse on lvscan?
[03:27] <Bashing-om> zeli: Nope there either .. hang loose here and see if there are those here who do know .
[03:30] <zeli> ok then i connected on screen:)
[03:31] <zeli> then i wait for mastah Ubuntu:)
[03:33] <Bashing-om> zeli: Good , repost if no response in about 20 minutes .
[03:34] <zeli> ok, thanks!
[03:35] <jancok> hi
[03:35] <jancok> can i ask ?
[03:35] <jancok> hi
[03:36] <zeli> u asked now
[03:36] <zeli> :P
[03:48] <liuxg> does anyone make the license.txt working in the snap apps? in my place, it never prompts me to accept the license. http://snapcraft.io/docs/snaps/structure
[04:03] <sarek> Can errors like this crash my computer, because there are a lot of them
[04:03] <sarek> (tracker-miner-fs:3139): Tracker-CRITICAL **:   (Sparql buffer) Error in task 48 of the array-update: UNIQUE constraint failed: nie:DataObject.nie:url (strerror of errno (not necessarily related): No such file or directory)
[04:07] <aten> I need some help on ubuntu 16.04 installing wmic..does anybody successfully installed it in ubuntu 16.04?
[04:10] <OerHeks> aten, what is wmic?
[04:10] <OerHeks> !find wmic
[04:11] <aten> trying to get windows details from snmp
[04:11] <aten> eg processor for monitoring purpose
[04:14] <OerHeks> looking at this page, http://techedemic.com/2014/09/17/installing-wmic-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts-64-bit/ , that wmic is last patched 2015 .. http://www.openvas.org/download/wmi/ do you really want this?
[04:17] <aten> i tried that solution before.. but seem it wont work in 16.04
[04:22] -H1LL4RYkillsJEWS:#ubuntu- Vote for Hillary Clinton to dissolve our alliance with Israel! Vote for Hillary and watch the Jews die!  Vote for Hillary to respect ISIS's rights!  Vote for Hillary to illegalize free speech!  Vote for Hillary to triple the national debt!  Vote for Hillary to ship more jobs overseas!  Vote for Hillary to make Russia great again!
[04:23] <aten> nvm oerheks.. i try to  googling more..
[04:23] <aten> thanks
[04:28] <kevdog_> dd
[04:29] <kevdog_> Is there an #ubuntu-offtopic channel anymore?
[05:10] <OerHeks> !paste
[05:12] <root> hi
[05:12] <xXEoflaOEXx> hi
[05:13] <taofeng> city
[05:13] <taofeng> ?
[05:14] <dootythefrooty> ay
[05:19] <Vagabond33> Hi
[05:19] <xXEoflaOEXx> hi
[05:24] <xutt> when is fedora 25 officially coming out?
[05:26] <xXEoflaOEXx> xutt: This is NOT a Fedora support channel: #fedora is.
[05:28] <xutt> yeah but the channel forces me to register
[05:28] <xutt> so I can't ask a question there
[05:28] <xutt> just wondering if anyone knew in here
[05:28] <Vagabond33> I'm trying out Linux and it's... quite a different world
[05:29] <xXEoflaOEXx> xutt: Do you have any screenshot app to show you that #fedora forces you to register?
[05:30] <Vagabond33> apparently there's a #fedora-unregistered channel
[05:30] <Vagabond33> automatic redirection
[05:30] <xutt> oh haha alright asking in there
[05:30] <xutt> not sure why I assumed it kicked me out
[05:30] <xutt> got it
[05:30] <xutt> thanks
[05:31] <Vagabond33> What's a simple way to put a lightweight GUI on Ubuntu? I just need it to edit files in a text editor really, that's been the hardest part without GUI - navigating and editing
[05:31] <dr3gs> anyone here?
[05:32] <Rarrikins> Vagabond33: You can try `nano` to edit files in a terminal.
[05:32] <Rarrikins> Vagabond33: If you really want a GUI, there's something relatively heavy like `lubuntu-core`.
[05:32] <Rarrikins> Vagabond33: I'm sure there are lighter-weight ways, like only installing X and a simple editor, but I haven't tried any, so I'm not sure what they are.
[05:33] <Vagabond33> I see
[05:34] <Rarrikins> Vagabond33: Maybe something like xmonad or Openbox.
[05:34] <xXEoflaOEXx> There are twm or fvwm, I think they are lighter
[05:36] <dr3gs> anyone ever set up a local ubuntu mirror repository on 16.04?
[05:56] <kevdog1> exit
[05:56] <kevdog1> exit
[05:56] <kevdog1> quit
[05:56] <kevdog1> quit!
[05:57] <kevdog1> exit
[05:57] <kevdog1> q
[05:57] <kevdog1> q
[05:57] <kevdog1> ZZ
[05:57] <Dragoneye> ifdown eth0 gives error;    service networking restart gives me errors, whats up with that? :-)
[05:58] <Rarrikins> Dragoneye: With sudo?
[05:58] <Dragoneye> Rarrikins: yes
[05:59] <Dragoneye> Rarrikins: I am root
[05:59] <Rarrikins> Dragoneye: What errors do you get?
[06:00] <Dragoneye> Rarrikins: eth0 not configured
[06:01] <Dragoneye> Rarrikins: ifconfig shows eth0 only with ip6 address.
[06:02] <Dragoneye> Rarrikins: tryed setting /etc/network/interfaces     but cant restart networking
[06:02] <Dragoneye> Rarrikins: to static ip address...
[06:04] <Rarrikins> Dragoneye: Does `ifdown --force eth0` work?
[06:05] <Dragoneye> Rarrikins: That did not give me an error , but ifconfig still shows eth0
[06:07] <Rarrikins> Does 'ifconfig etho0 down` work?
[06:08] <Dragoneye> Rarrikins: That worked, but for no apperent reson did it get the static ip i configured in /etc/network/interfaces  :-)
[06:15] <kevdog> Why you configuring interfaces by hand?
[06:16] <Dragoneye> kevdog: communicating with a firewall box
[06:17] <kevdog> So this can’t be done with network manager?
[06:17] <Dragoneye> kevdog: only have ssh terminal access, no gui
[06:18] <kevdog> I wrote a post about this in 2007 I think — I’m looking at it right not — its been a long time.  I think ifconfig doesn’t read the interfaces file but ifup and ifdown do to answer your question
[06:19] <kevdog> You can configure with ifconfig like the following: sudo ifconfig <interface> down
[06:19] <kevdog> sudo dhclient -r <interface>
[06:19] <kevdog> sudo ifconfig <interface> 192.168.1.100 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
[06:19] <kevdog> sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[06:19] <Dragoneye> kevdog: would like  to see that post ;-)    ifdown gives the error "interface eth0 not configured"
[06:20] <kevdog> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188
[06:20] <kevdog> You have eth0 — 14.04?
[06:20] <Dragoneye> kevdog: yes
[06:20] <Dragoneye> kevdog: thank you for info :-)
[06:21] <kevdog> np — It might not be totally relevant
[06:22] <kevdog> after you make the changes in the file — do you do a sudo service networking restart command?
[06:23] <brotherBox> yes
[06:23] <kevdog> The guide I referenced was with system V init scripts, which 14.04 has upstart and 16.04 has systemd.  Things have changed in the last 8 years a lot — and not for the better
[06:23] <kevdog> pastebin?
[06:24] <Dragoneye> service networking restart gives "job failed while stopping
[06:24] <Dragoneye> "
[06:24] <Dragoneye> But the above config did do the trick :-)
[06:25] <Dragoneye> it now shows the correct ip in ifconfig
[06:25] <kevdog> how about sudo service networking stop???  Awe but you figured it out the old fashioned way — good for you
[06:25] <Dragoneye> service networking stop   do give the above error
[06:26] <kevdog> Only problem with that method, is that those commands either need to be run with shell file or typed in everytime.  The other way is a little bit more automatic, however the manual ifconfig way works on every single linux distribution and raspberry pi setup — you never go wrong with it
[06:26] <Dragoneye> Old way was the only way a few years back ;-)
[06:26] <Dragoneye> true
[06:27] <Dragoneye> So where is the config automatic gui config files hiding theese days?
[06:27] <kevdog> Is it service network stop?  I don’t remember the syntax for upstart for the networking stack
[06:27] <Dragoneye> service networking stop|start|restart
[06:27] <Dragoneye> stop gives error
[06:28] <kevdog> whats your interfaces file look like — is there a syntax error
[06:28] <xXEoflaOEXx> How about service network-manager restart? Does it give an error?
[06:28] <kevdog> I think that command basically calls ifup, ifdown.  You want to use network manager
[06:29] <Dragoneye> maby it doesnt handle tabs?
[06:29] <kevdog> Maybe — put in spaces,  one line will F**K it up, because I’ve done that so many times
[06:30] <Dragoneye> :-)
[06:30] <Dragoneye> deleted the tabs and empty line, but still gives error on service networking stop
[06:32] <Dragoneye> would love to give you the interface file, i have to type it manually tho...   Isolated network ;-)
[06:32] <Dragoneye> every ';' indicates a newline
[06:33] <kevdog> I’m looking something else up … can’t remember the file network manager references — its not the interfaces file
[06:34] <Dragoneye> auto lo;ifcace lo inet loopback;iface eth0 inet static;address 10.1.1.100;netmask 255.255.255.0;network 10.1.1.0;gateway 10.1.1.1
[06:34] <Dragoneye> ok
[06:35] <Dragoneye> s/ifcace/iface/
[06:40] <kevdog> ok do you have a /etc/NetworkManager directory
[06:43] <kevdog> Hmmm seems like you left..
[06:44] <Dragoneye> jmp
[06:44] <Dragoneye> hehe, no
[06:45] <Dragoneye> just nosing around in that other display ;-)
[06:45] <Dragoneye> yes, I got that catalog
[06:47] <kevdog> Ok so do you have a /etc/NetworkManger/system-connections folder?
[06:48] <Dragoneye> yes, got 3 files there
[06:49] <kevdog> What are they?
[06:49] <kevdog> I have one called Wired Connection 1
[06:49] <Dragoneye> it is the name of two of my network and one AndroidAP
[06:50] <Dragoneye> but no assosiation for the net I am trying to connect to now
[06:50] <Dragoneye> AndroidAP;cncverksted;Dragon
[06:51] <kevdog> can you make another file and change the information for the ipv4 section to set static IP?
[06:51] <Dragoneye> I currently have it plugget into a switch with another box wich I try to connect to.
[06:51] <kevdog> Ok ok ——
[06:51] <Dragoneye> I'll give it a shot.  But how do I choose that after config?
[06:54] <kevdog> do you have nmcli installed?
[06:54] <Dragoneye> yes
[06:55] <kevdog> how about nmtui?
[06:55] <kevdog> nmtui makes it very easy
[06:56] <Dragoneye> no
[06:57] <Dragoneye> I got that on this machine, nice. I will copy that program to a usb memorystick
[06:57] <Dragoneye> Tank you :-)
[06:58] <kevdog> I think you can bring up profiles for different connections — poor mans gui
[06:58] <Dragoneye> Nice :-)
[07:00] <kevdog> nmtui should include binaries nmtui-edi nmtui-connect and nmtui-hostname
[07:00] <Dragoneye> tanks :-)
[07:16] <Dragoneye> That was a lot of shared libs it uses..  I tink i yank it off the grid and to the internet and apt it in there :-)
[07:27] <Aizen> Hello every1
[07:27] <Aizen> I want to create a script for taking mongo data backup on daily basis using cron
[07:27] <Aizen> can any1 suggest me some idea ?
[07:35] <sphrak> hi, im using ufw, and I cant figure out why my namespace is getting blocked. this is the output: https://dpaste.de/CszQ/raw
[07:35] <sphrak> there is the error and the config im running
[07:41] <simplay> exit
[07:44] <mernilio> Thanks for having me!
[07:51] <noob> I need free / open source version of INFO SCREEN to our lounge. Hmmm. That info-PC's OS is Linux Mint. If i don't find anything good, then i use libreoffice impress :/.
[07:52] <xXEoflaOEXx> hi EriC^^
[07:52] <sphrak> anyone have a clue?
[07:53] <Wulf> Is there a program which sets a random password to the root account, displays it on the screen and waits for the user to press return?
[07:53] <ducasse> !mint | noob
[07:53] <Wulf> sphrak: what's a namespace?
[07:53] <noob> ducasse: really...don't go for that. im not talking about MINT :D just tell me good info program.
[07:54] <sphrak> Wulf: a networked namespace..
[07:54] <Wulf> sphrak: and what's that?
[07:54] <Wulf> sphrak: I can't see port 53 in your rules
[07:55] <ducasse> Wulf: easy to script, there are several tools for generating random passwords.
[07:55] <xXEoflaOEXx> Yes, Linux Mint is not make by Canonical.
[07:55] <xXEoflaOEXx> made*
[07:55] <sphrak> Wulf: its logically a copy of the network stack, with its own routes an rules.. kinda
[07:56] <noob> xXEoflaOEXx: yeah i know that, but mint and ubuntu are using same programs because mint is ubuntu :D.
[07:56] <noob> ok i will be 25min AFK....
[07:56] <xXEoflaOEXx> noob: but Linux Mint is made by different developers.
[07:56] <Wulf> sphrak: okay. Anyway, what I can see in your kernel message: you're trying to forward a packet from veth0 to eno1, udp with dest port 53 (DNS)
[07:57] <Wulf> sphrak: which of your ufw rules allows this kind of traffic?
[07:58] <Wulf> sphrak: I only see "ALLOW IN" and "ALLOW OUT". Is there also "ALLOW FORWARD"?
[07:58] <sphrak> Wulf: hmm I see.. im gonna fix that hehe
[08:00] <Xor-Nand> hi guys
[08:01] <fossify> yes
[08:20] <mernilio> Greetings. Whit that said, im soon have to go with my old mum to the hospital. She dont feel weel.
[08:21] <mernilio> Thanks for your prayres and let jesus knows you are here!
[08:21] <ikonia> mernilio: can you please stop with this random join / silly comment / part
[08:22] <xXEoflaOEXx> mernilio: Offtopic posts in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[08:22] <mernilio> ikonia: like what? give me at least 10 exaples?
[08:22] <hello> hi there
[08:22] <hello> one off topic question
[08:22] <hello> please just advise
[08:22] <hello> I have quick question about linux on phone ... do i still need Android os to install Kali or I can wipe all and kali linux will allow me to call and msgs and all other phone stuff
[08:22] <Ben64> hello: one off topic... means it doesn't belong here
[08:22] <ikonia> mernilio: you have been asked multiple times not to do this, so it will not be asked again - please stop, the channels topic is ubuntu support, please stick to it
[08:23] <ikonia> hello: sorry, we don't support it here
[08:23] <xXEoflaOEXx> Any offtopic questions belong to #ubuntu-offtopic, not here.
[08:23] <mernilio> ikonia: My heart belong to you . But now. My mum is on the hospital .. i have to go. i love you!
[08:44] <user> hello
[09:03] <SynfulAck> Hey guys im on 15.10 and someone installed several versions of python, is there a quick command to get rid of these?
[09:05] <Dragoneye> I got 5 network ports eth0-4 how can i figure out which port one host is on? Say I ping 192.168.1.1...
[09:05] <ducasse> SynfulAck: 15.10 is eol, you need to upgrade
[09:05] <SynfulAck> ducasse, assume i cant.
[09:06] <SynfulAck> also are there any bash scripts/software I can execute to remove software to put it as close to the vanilla install as possible?
[09:07] <djuki> how to dellete sql from terminal
[09:07] <hateball> Dragoneye: what do you mean "one host is on" ?
[09:08] <hateball> Dragoneye: do you have a machine as router, serving connections on eth0-4 ?
[09:11] <Dragoneye> hateball: yes its a firewall / router
[09:12] <Dragoneye> hateball:  s/on/at/
[09:15] <ducasse> SynfulAck: 15.10 is not supported here at all.
[09:19] <Mement> I tried different environments for Ubuntu (16.04), but now I got unused environments in my list (login screen). Uninstalling does not remove them, I tried apt-get purge kde* and apt-get purge i3wm*, and it did remove packages. However, they are still there.
[09:19] <vjacob> Hello! :-) if I have renamed my volume group name using `vgrename´ and I have rebooted without running a succesful `update-grub2´ command, and I am now at a `(initramfs)´ boot prompt, would it be possible for me to give the correct volume group name and make the boot succeed in finding the partitions that it will need?
[09:19] <Mement> Anyone can guide me to a document or source that explains how to remove environments properly?
[09:22] <ducasse> Mement: have you run 'apt autoremove' to get rid of unnecessary packages?
[09:24] <ducasse> Mement: also, to get rid of kde i think you need to delete 'plasma-desktop', and i3 is 'i3' or 'i3-wm'.
[09:26] <wasim> Hey there
[09:32] <AnonyFox> is there anyway to turn on powersaving for my laptop running ubuntu terminal ?
[09:32] <AnonyFox> 6% battery left ):
[09:32] <Aizen> can some body tell me how to use cron ?
[09:32] <gahan> Can I configure a specific package not to install configuration updates on apt upgrade?
[09:32] <Aizen> for my script
[09:33] <AnonyFox> !cron
[09:33] <hateball> Aizen: https://crontab.guru/
[09:33] <ducasse> Aizen: 'man 5 crontab' has very good instructions
[09:37] <AnonyFox> Is there any laptop battery power saver for ubuntu ?
[09:38] <hateball> AnonyFox: You mean a special tool? There is powertop to find out what draws battery
[09:42] <Free-Rider> how to do ssh in ubuntu
[09:42] <Xor-Nand> you just write ssh username@<host>
[10:03] <djuki> sql mozzart fail
[10:05] <djuki> proxi open
[10:05] <djuki> bb link free
[10:06] <splashing> you guys need to help reactos develop things!
[10:07] <djuki> tower
[10:07] <djuki> open sql
[10:09] <djuki> out
[10:09] <djuki> sql map open
[10:12] <Mement> ducasse, Sorry for the later response. After purging 'plasma-desktop' and 'i3-wm' a lot of additional packages were autoremoved aswell.
[10:12] <Mement> Thank you so far, I will restart in a sec. and see if it helped.
[10:13] <ducasse> Mement: you only need to log out to check.
[10:13] <ducasse> Mement: well, maybe you need to restart lightdm, not sure.
[10:14] <Guest93297> hello. if a package in the official repos in unstable, how does one go about getting it removed if the maintainer doesn't fix it?
[10:17] <vjacob> anyone experience with solving boot issues related to LVM?
[10:29] <Mement> ducasse, Thank you, no more unnecessary environments on my end. :)
[10:34] <ducasse> vjacob: can't you reboot from a live image, chroot into your install and update grub from there?
[10:41] <elias_a> How do I know whether a character is a hyphen-minus (U+002D) or hyphen (U+2010)?
[10:41] <fellows> Hello, how can I set up default route on boot on ubuntu 16.10?
[10:41] <fellows> I have to disable NetworkManager service?
[10:42] <elias_a> fellows: AFAIR that can be done with Network Manager.
[10:43] <fellows> elias_a: I need customize with static routes and status ip, dn
[10:45] <sat_> Hi, does anyone here have experience with LVM2 and dm-cache on 16.04?
[10:45] <sat_> I tried to set it up on 14.04 and it works with: ➜  ~ sudo lvconvert --type cache-pool --poolmetadata vgc/lvc_meta vgc/lvc
[10:46] <sat_> But the same thing on 16.04 complains about missing dm-cache kernel module
[10:46] <ducasse> sat_: you might need the -extra kernel package
[10:47] <sat_> @ducasse, it's already installed
[10:47] <ducasse> sat_: in that case i don't know, but you could try #ubuntu-server
[10:48] <sat_> ducasse: thanks!
[11:12] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:18] <Mulf> Hello, im getting this error http://pastebin.com/j7KumNa0 , everytime i try to make a command
[11:46] <anyfreename> Where can I go to ask about ufw / iptables?
[11:46] <madmanwithabox> Hello. I have a problem with apt. It takes way too long to move past [Waiting] (so it
[11:47] <madmanwithabox> so it's not able to connect to the server)
[11:47] <madmanwithabox> I've described it here:
[11:47] <madmanwithabox> http://askubuntu.com/questions/845420/apt-takes-a-long-time-just-to-connect-and-keeps-disconnecting?noredirect=1
[11:49] <vjacob> ducasse: possibly, that seems like an idea, thank you
[11:51] <NoCode> Is the 4.0.0-45 generic kernel broken? Not sure why I am having problems with it
[11:51] <Guest78918> hi.... i dont know actually how this work or which channel is the more suitable for my problem... i think i have a problem with systemd... i did yesterday an update n now i see only dark window... i could see only something after i exec starx, then i see some minimal made deskop, but i cannot access to my session properlly
[11:52] <NoCode> haha
[11:52] <NoCode> Tht is literally my issue too
[11:52] <Guest78918> NoCode: urs_
[11:52] <Guest78918> ?
[11:52] <NoCode> yup
[11:52] <Guest78918> sorry my keyboard is in english
[11:53] <djuki> opn free
[11:53] <djuki> key; 12544552s12dsad226635asd
  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW  and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UncomplicatedFirewall
[11:53] <Guest78918> ok... do u use nvidia drivers? actually i dont think that it has to do something with the drivers... but im open to anything... i have to work and im now behind my time and getting crazy about the next calls
[11:54] <Guest78918> im working over a usb stick... im thinking on uninstall that what i have updated... but somehow is way too much...
[11:55] <NoCode> Yeah, I do have nvidia drivers
[11:55] <Guest78918> the update of yesterday has updated those drivers... the use to give troubles...
  https://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=336
[11:56] <Guest78918> but somehow im not sure if it has to do something with that... im gonna try to install the ubuntu drivers...
[11:56] <para000> hi guys, want to install a nvidia driver on ubuntu 14.04 server, any advice?
[11:57] <visky> any hacking tools here?
[11:59] <Guest78918> para000: have fun
[12:03] <para000> Guest78918: why have fun?
[12:03] <para000> is something that i need to know?
[12:05] <Guest78918> para000: yep... ull need to be patiance...
[12:06] <hateball> para000: server without X?
[12:16] <para000> hateball: i installed x just now
[12:16] <para000> or can i install the dirver first then x?
[12:17] <ikonia> why ?
[12:17] <ikonia> what's the problem
[12:17] <ikonia> it will depend on package dependencies, but what does it matter, you can't use one without the other
[12:19] <para000> ikonia: talking to me?
[12:19] <ikonia> yup
[12:20] <para000> ikonia: i`m new at linux, i know some basic staff, but now i`m stuck with this
[12:20] <para000> so basicly, i have a dedicated server that i bought for 1 month
[12:20] <ikonia> I'm missing something then....
[12:20] <para000> on it have ubuntu 14.04
[12:20] <para000> ubuntu server
[12:20] <ikonia> then why are you putting X on it ?
[12:21] <ikonia> and what "driver" are you talking about ?
[12:21] <para000> i need to remote connect to it
[12:21] <para000> not only ssh
[12:21] <para000> that why i`m puting x on it
[12:21] <ikonia> you understand the risks of that ?
[12:22] <para000> what is the risk?
[12:22] <hateball> para000: nvidia driver depends on x11 stuff
[12:22] <ikonia> it's an old insecure protocol
[12:22] <ikonia> why do you need X11 - what exactly are you planning to do ?
[12:23] <para000> k, so i need this server for virtualisation
[12:23] <para000> finaly i will install vmware workstation on it
[12:23] <ikonia> that seems silly
[12:23] <para000> and i need a graphic connection to it
[12:23] <para000> is there a better way of doing it?
[12:24] <ikonia> you've bought a dedicated linux server - to then put a workstation product on it, and access it over an insecure method over the internet
[12:24] <para000> no
[12:24] <ikonia> you have just 1 month to do this
[12:24] <ikonia> it seems pointless
[12:24] <para000> the vmware workstation will clone 10 PCs
[12:24] <para000> to automate some staff i`m doing
[12:24] <ikonia> I suspect it won't
[12:25] <ikonia> I suspect it will fail
[12:25] <para000> the server is very strong
[12:25] <ikonia> nothing to do with the server power
[12:25] <para000> Intel Core i7
[12:25] <para000> 3930K or 4930K
[12:25] <para000> (6 x 3,20 GHz)
[12:25] <ikonia> i7
[12:25] <para000> and 64 GB of ram
[12:25] <ikonia> so it's not even a proper server
[12:25] <ikonia> it's a desktop class machine
[12:25] <akik> para000: you can use x2go server to get a remote desktop over ssh. though it doesn't do accelerated gfx
[12:26] <para000> yes, cause i don`t do complex things ikonia
[12:26] <ikonia> para000: this sounds like a very bad idea
[12:26] <para000> so, till now i was runing windows server on this
[12:26] <para000> and all was working fine
[12:26] <para000> but windows server is 50$ extra per month
[12:27] <para000> cause of the licence
[12:27] <para000> and i wanted to switch to ubuntu cause is free
[12:27] <ikonia> good lord, you're paying over $50 per month for a hosted desktop
[12:27] <para000> but with windows all was working perfect
[12:27] <Alleanza> i read somewhere brazil is wasting hundreds of million $ on licenses
[12:28] <para000> 10 clones of vmware workstation working percfect
[12:28] <elodinn> para000: what are you using vmware for
[12:28] <ikonia> Alleanza: nothing to do with this channel
[12:28] <ikonia> as well you know
[12:28] <swati_27> Hi. Anyone here to whom I could talk regarding GCI 2016 mentorship ?
[12:28] <Alleanza> ikonia, yes, im sorry
[12:29] <ikonia> swati_27: not really this channels function,
[12:29] <para000> so ikonia: the point is this, can i manage to make it work as the windows version was working?
[12:29] <para000> so i go back to windows?
[12:29] <para000> cause till now i`m getting stuck at the nvidia driver
[12:29] <para000> i have a GT 640 on it
[12:29] <ikonia> para000: it's up to you, I disagree with your approach, but it's totally up to you
[12:30] <swati_27> ikonia: Any specific person that could be contacted?
[12:30] <ikonia> swati_27: not really
[12:30] <ikonia> it's not really anything to do with ubuntu
[12:30] <swati_27> okay. Thanks.
[12:30] <para000> what i did till now is this: install gnome-core xfce4 firefox vnc4server
[12:30] <para000> and manange to connect to it with VNC
[12:31] <para000> installed VMware
[12:31] <para000> and when i start it is waying i have no 3d acceleration
[12:31] <para000> cause of the host
[12:31] <para000> and i think is because i didin`t install the driver for the video card
[12:31] <para000> writhg?
[12:31] <para000> right?
[12:32] <rifter_> para000, you know that both x11 and vnc can be done through ssh, right?
[12:33] <para000> rifter_: i`m new at linux, this is what i found, if you wanna guide me to a simpler solution
[12:33] <Alleanza> ikonia, do you use rstudio?
[12:33] <rifter_> hmm looks like someone stole my nick
[12:34] <rifter_> I wonder how they did that
[12:34] <Alleanza> i use /dev/urandom for my passwords
[12:36] <Alleanza> does anyone here use rstudio on ubuntu 16.10?
[12:36] <hateball> Alleanza: Are you taking a poll or do you have an actual question?
[12:36] <Alleanza> actual question
[12:36] <ikonia> Alleanza: what ?
[12:36] <ikonia> Alleanza: rstudio, what does that have to do with anything
[12:37] <Alleanza> ikonia, i cant install it because one of its dependencies is uninstallable
[12:37] <ikonia> ok ?
[12:37] <ikonia> resolve the dependency,
[12:38] <Alleanza> but apt tools inform me that dependencies are uninstallable
[12:38] <ikonia> then look at why
[12:38] <ikonia> and look at what repos are providing what packages
[12:38] <rifter> ah fixed
[12:38] <Alleanza> ubuntu 16.10 dont offer those packages
[12:39] <rifter> para000, okay I kind of skimmed the above, but .. is there something you are doing that requires hardware accelleration?
[12:39] <ikonia> ok - so the problem is not ubuntu then, the problem is the repos that provide the packages
[12:39] <Alleanza> its libgstreamer and a certain version, nothing exotic
[12:40] <Alleanza> would it be ok if i install libgstreamer from ubuntu 12.10 lets say?
[12:40] <ikonia> Alleanza: no
[12:42] <ledeni> 16.10 ubuntu how to update system with cli ?
[12:42] <ikonia> apt-get upgrade
[12:42] <hateball> ledeni: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[12:45] <ledeni> hateball, ikonia thanks
[12:45] <rifter> para000, okay I kind of skimmed the above, but .. is there something you are doing that requires hardware accelleration?
[12:45] <rifter> sorry I think the first time I posted it wasn't registered or something because of my nick problem
[12:55] <ThePendulum> I was talking to #ubunut but they didn't reply :P
[12:55] <ikonia> you've in ubuntu now
[12:55] <ikonia> ThePendulum: and you've not said a word in this channel yet
[12:55] <ThePendulum> Yeah, probably a more efficient way to get help with ubuntu
[12:55] <falz> after upgrading from ubuntu 14 to 16, google chrome requires re-establishing cookies for everything upon reboot
[12:55] <ikonia> so thats why no-one has responded
[12:56] <falz> so re-log in to all websites, etc. curious if anyone else has thos joy
[12:56] <ThePendulum> ikonia: I typo'd
[12:56] <ThePendulum> I was in #ubunut and rambling there
[12:58] <ThePendulum> Has anyone had issues I think since 15.04 with the notification menu for pidgin going out of sync? I'd open up the conversation and the unity sidebar clears, but the notification bell stays blue
[12:58] <ThePendulum> still the case in 16.04 on my laptop
[12:58] <ikonia> isn't pidgin long dead /
[12:58] <ikonia> ?
[13:00] <ThePendulum> oh?
[13:01] <ThePendulum> 2.11.0 is what's on their site, from the 21st of june this year
[13:01] <ThePendulum> I also wouldn't know of any worthy alternatives
[13:01] <Pici> ThePendulum: What are you ising it for?
[13:01] <rifter> ikonia, no they are not dead
[13:01] <rifter> why would you think that?
[13:01] <ThePendulum> facebook, skype, gtalk, a direct xmpp server and sometimes steam
[13:02] <rifter> yeah there are none, ThePendulum
[13:02] <ThePendulum> it's serving me well so I'd like for it to stick around for a while :P
[13:02] <rifter> years ago I tried to find some other package that did even some of what it did, and nothing really fit the bill. Thankfully I fixed my problems at that time
[13:03] <rifter> well, ThePendulum you're in luck because pidgin is quite active
[13:03] <ThePendulum> :D
[13:03] <ThePendulum> the only thing I ditched it for was IRC, but for IM chats it's nice and clean in one place
[13:04] <ikonia> !info pidgin
[13:04] <rifter> unfortunately I haven't upgraded to the latest Ubuntu and don't use Unity, so I can't help you directly.  However, their mailing list is pretty good
[13:04] <ikonia> ok, it's in universe
[13:04] <ThePendulum> let me build the latest version from source first, not sure if this is a pidgin or ubuntu issue tbh
[13:04] <ThePendulum> either it's not receiving pidgin's update about unread messages or pidgin just isn't sending them to begin with
[13:04] <rifter> it is a question
[13:05] <ikonia> building it from source seems a bad idea
[13:05] <rifter> why would that be, ikonia?
[13:05] <ikonia> as the way it integrates is how it is linked to the other packages
[13:05] <ThePendulum> fair
[13:05] <rifter> ah unity integration
[13:06] <rifter> well, I'd engage the pidgin mailing list or .. hmm I think there is a #pidgin here
[13:06]  * rifter checks
[13:06] <rifter> yeah there is a #pidgin
[13:06] <rifter> I'm sure someone on the list or in that channel uses what you are using and can help
[13:11] <ThePendulum> thanks
[13:17] <azizLIGHT> how do i view a binary file
[13:17] <azizLIGHT> read stuff inside it
[13:17] <ikonia> you don't
[13:17] <ikonia> it's binary
[13:18] <azizLIGHT> when i try less, i can see some text strings in the middle here and there
[13:18] <Pici> azizLIGHT: you can try to run strings against it, but the results may be less then useful.
[13:18] <hateball> azizLIGHT: strings
[13:18] <ikonia> you could run "strings" against it
[13:18] <ikonia> but you won't get much
[13:18] <k200> how do I know if my ubuntu installation has encrpted /home or not?
[13:19] <azizLIGHT> i see some intersting stuff with strings
[13:19] <azizLIGHT> thanks
[13:21] <Mulf1> How can I make changes to the grub_timeout? Got an error that GRUB_TIMEOUT cant be the same as GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT
[13:52] <saiful> hi
[13:54] <samuri_> hello everyone
[14:00] <typh> anybody have some advice about video player?
[14:01] <ducasse> typh: vlc, smplayer, mpv...
[14:01] <uddane> typh: what file types do you use? I normally use vlc, but there are other options out there
[14:02] <ducasse> typh: i prefer smplayer, but ymmv. works with all codecs i've tried.
[14:02] <typh> just mkv,but my video sound is very low
[14:04] <samurikun> typh: I prefer vlc
[14:05] <samurikun> typh: with vlc one can have the volume set at over 150%
[14:05] <typh> ooh!
[14:06] <typh> thank you all~
[14:06] <samurikun> typh: atleast if configured to do so... If i remember correctly the maximum is 125% at default
[14:07] <samurikun> typh: but even that is quite handy
[14:08] <typh> when i play the music,the sound is big enough.
[14:09] <typh> i don't know why?
[14:09] <samurikun> typh: the video files might be mixed to a different level
[14:11] <para000> i`m willing to pay someone 20$ if it helps me setup my dedicated server with VNC and Nvidia Driver, i`m trying to do this for 24H now
[14:12] <Soul_Sample> ever since I've upgraded to 16.10 I have weird connection drops, DNS issues and random internet issues. Any quick fix? I tried disabling dnsmasq (It wasn't even installed anyway) but no cigar
[14:13] <ducasse> Soul_Sample: 16.10 has switched to resolved
[14:14] <Soul_Sample> ducasse: but would that cause problems while playing games? If I'm connected to a server, DNS shouldn't cause issues with that? And yet I get dropped sometimes, have to restart the entire network manager and reconnect
[14:14] <ducasse> Soul_Sample: wifi?
[14:15] <Soul_Sample> ducasse: nope, cable
[14:16] <ducasse> Soul_Sample: that sort of problem is far more common with wifi, in my experience, which is why i asked. what kind of chipset?
[14:17] <uddane> para000: whats up with the nvidia driver?
[14:17] <ducasse> para000: vnc doesn't do 3d accel at all, just so you know.
[14:18] <Soul_Sample> ducasse: lspci says Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection, subsystem ASRock incorporation ethernet connection
[14:19] <ducasse> Soul_Sample: which driver does 'lspci -k' report?
[14:20] <Soul_Sample> ducasse: kernel driver e1000e
[14:21] <ducasse> Soul_Sample: that's a very good driver, for a very good chipset. i'd suspect a software problem, have you tried configuring the interface in /etc/network/interfaces instead of network manager?
[14:23] <Soul_Sample> ducasse: no, not sure if I'd know how, I've been depending on the network manager for far too long now. And it's definitely a software problem since it's been introduced in 16.10, 16.04 worked really well. I'm actually considering downgrading
[14:24] <ducasse> Soul_Sample: it's quite simple, are you using dhcp or static addressing?
[14:25] <Soul_Sample> ducasse: dhcp, I set my static addressing on the router
[14:26] <ducasse> Soul_Sample: ok, what's the name of your ethernet interface?
[14:26] <Soul_Sample> ducasse: enp0s25
[14:28] <ducasse> Soul_Sample: ok, add the lines in this pastebin to /etc/network/interfaces: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23425722/
[14:28] <slavanap> Hello. Where I can find a .so file that exports 'freopen' C function?
[14:29] <Soul_Sample> ducasse: done, now reboot, I suppose?
[14:30] <ducasse> Soul_Sample: you don't need to. stop network manager, run 'sudo ifup enp0s25' and you should be online. if anything breaks, just remove those two lines again and start network manager - it will take over as before.
[14:31] <Soul_Sample> ducasse: great, thanks a lot!
[14:31] <ducasse> Soul_Sample: hope it helps!
[14:31] <ben911> Hello, I am trying to install ubuntu server 16.04 on supermicro server (UEFI mode due to nvme drives not visible for legacy boot), booting a single drive works fine but I wish to configure everything with raid-1 like I used to do in the old MBR bootable machines.
[14:31] <ben911> For some reason I can only see the first nvme drive in the installer
[14:31] <ben911> cat /proc/partitions shows the other nvme device
[14:31] <Soul_Sample> ducasse: me too :D
[14:32] <ben911> I thought about trying to manually configure everything but the installer environment doesn't have any partition tools that I could find (fdisk/cfdisk/parted)
[14:32] <ducasse> Soul_Sample: if it does, please consider filing a bug for network manager.
[14:32] <ben911> Any idea what's wrong with the installer and how come it sees only 1 drive?
[14:33] <ducasse> ben911: that's confusing, you might want to check with the guys in #ubuntu-server if anyone else has seen this behavior. otherwise i'd guess you could set up a degraded raid and add the second drive later?
[14:34] <ben911> ducasse - I thought about this option too but the installer doesn't let me do it in degraded mode. I can try doing half via cli and half via installer but the last time I tried it ended up not booting the EFI :/
[14:34] <ben911> I'll try #ubuntu-server, thanks!
[14:35] <Skizu> Hey, trying to kill a daemon service with a TERM signal, that's `kill -TERM pid` right?
[14:36] <Skizu> Ubuntu 16.04
[14:37] <ben911> Skizu: -9 should do
[14:37] <Skizu> ;( then my service is a bag of ****
[14:37] <ben911> ?
[14:38] <Skizu> Ah, I'm just using python-deamon, meant to listen to the system signals... it isn't
[14:38] <Skizu> Wanted to make sure I wasn't being dumb and using the wrong signal format
[14:38] <ben911> You can't catch -9
[14:38] <Skizu> I want 15 though :)
[14:38] <Skizu> SIGTERM
[14:38] <ben911> ah, my bad, I thought of SIGKILL ;)
[14:39] <Skizu> Yeah, but my format is sound right?
[14:39] <ducasse> Skizu: yes.
[14:39] <Skizu> Note to all, never waste your time with python-daemon, it's a bad package :(
[14:40] <ducasse> Skizu: you can also use 'pkill processname', it will send TERM by default. 'pkill -9' sends KILL.
[14:41] <ducasse> (saves you looking up the pid)
[14:41] <Skizu> ducasse: Does pkill take a pid?
[14:41] <Skizu> ducasse: Else my issue is the process name is simply python3
[14:42] <ducasse> Skizu: no, a pattern to match aganinst process name
[14:43] <Skizu> ducasse: Can you explain a little more?
[14:44] <ducasse> Skizu: 'man pkill' is more effective :)
[14:45] <Skizu> Will do, thanks :)
[14:46] <rekoil> anyone know what libapache2-mod-wsgi-py3 in trusty is linked against? i'm getting segfaults trying to use it
[14:46] <ducasse> Skizu: basically, 'pkill foobar' will send SIGTERM to the process(es) named foobar. 'pkill -u root foobar' will do the same, but only to processes owned by root. etc.
[14:46] <rekoil> seems it isn't linked against the same libs as the python3.4 binaries available in the distribution
[14:47] <rekoil> python2 works against libapache2-mod-wsgi
[14:47] <rekoil> but not py3
[14:47] <rekoil> but not python3 with wsgi-py3 that is
[14:47] <rekoil> any devs able to check this out?
[14:48] <Skizu> ducasse: Ah coolio thanks
[14:48] <ducasse> Skizu: np. there's a lot of options, so check the manpage for details.
[14:49] <ducasse> rekoil: no devs here, you could try #ubuntu-devel or similar.
[14:49] <RandomNoob> Hello guys how to send notification from sudo notify-send "Name" "Body" to current user I am running that command?
[14:50] <ducasse> RandomNoob: try with 'gksudo' instead
[14:51] <RandomNoob> ducasse: No result. Still no notification on my screen.
[14:52] <ducasse> RandomNoob: no other suggestions, i have no idea how notify-send works. why are you using sudo in the first place?
[14:54] <RandomNoob> ducasse: I have written little python script which I am running with sudo. I want notifications with it. Running that script with sudo cuz I am editing /sys/class/backlight/nv_backlight/brightness file
[14:55] <ducasse> RandomNoob: then try 'sudo -u your_username notify-send whatever'
[14:56] <RandomNoob> ducasse: Looks like a solution. Thanks.
[14:58] <ducasse> RandomNoob: it might still fail, because sudo strips the environment. try gksudo instead, or look at the sudo manpage to pass things like DISPLAY through.
[14:58] <linuxmonk> Hi guys ,I installed ubuntu 16.10
[14:59] <linuxmonk> from scratch and when I check with chkrootkit I got "tcpd" INFECTED
[15:00] <linuxmonk> anyone has 16.10 and can apt install chkrootkit to see if they get same result , that would be reassuring :)
[15:00] <discovered> What is the most powerful firewall for Ubuntu? iptables?
[15:00] <genii> linuxmonk: It's afalse positive
[15:00] <NoMiddle_> discovered: firewall is inside linux kernel
[15:01] <genii> linuxmonk: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cyborg/+bug/454566 has the details.
[15:01] <NoMiddle_> iptable is an istructor
[15:01] <linuxmonk> genii: you got the same result ??
[15:01] <discovered> NoMiddle_, Well, What i need to know is iptable ... right?
[15:02] <AnonyFox> How do i find my usb drive from terminal ?
[15:02] <genii> linuxmonk: It's a known issue which has been around for 5+ years
[15:02] <ducasse> AnonyFox: lsblk
[15:02] <Random832> AnonyFox: lsblk or blkid
[15:03] <Guest80828> hi
[15:03] <AnonyFox> THanks
[15:03] <linuxmonk> ni it s not the same , tcpd didn tgive result on ubuntu 16.04
[15:04] <AnonyFox> and how do i format the usb drive from terminal ? ^
[15:04] <ducasse> discovered: you can learn iptables or nftables, iptables is more commonly used
[15:04] <linuxmonk> anyone has chkrootkit installed  in 16.10to check ??
[15:04] <Random832> AnonyFox: why isn't it already formatted?
[15:04] <AnonyFox> Random832: I need to reformat the usb stick since it's not working properly anymore
[15:05] <ducasse> AnonyFox: which filesystem do you want? fat32?
[15:06] <AnonyFox> Fat32 indeed
[15:06] <ducasse> AnonyFox: 'sudo mkfs.fat -F32 /dev/sdXY'
[15:06] <ducasse> AnonyFox: be careful with that :)
[15:07] <ben911> ducasse - fwiw - there was already a raid configured on the 2nd drive... I stopped the old defunct raid there and the drive is now visible
[15:07] <ducasse> ben911: aha! sounds logical :)
[15:07] <AnonyFox> I should not need to worry as long as i choose the right /dev/sd
[15:07] <ben911> :)
[15:08] <linuxmonk> no one can check on 16.10 if chkrootkit gives false positive on tcpd ? ):
[15:08] <ducasse> AnonyFox: right.
[15:09] <ducasse> linuxmonk: it does, it's a known problem.
[15:09] <ben911> ducasse: Have you ever installed with raid1 in UEFI machines by any chance?
[15:09] <linuxmonk> 16.10 is not old ,it s nowhere on the web , and wasn t the case on previous versions!
[15:10] <genii> linuxmonk: Basically, the reason is chkrootkit thinks any program which opens up a connection to the outside from your machine is a backdoor trojan, when many of them ( like tcp daemon) are not
[15:10] <ducasse> ben911: no, but afaik you should be good as long as the efi system partition is on a plain, non-raid fat32 partition.
[15:11] <linuxmonk> still it s new and I didn t find anyone reporting it anywhere , do you have it on your machine??
[15:11] <ducasse> linuxmonk: there has been at least two other people here the last few days who asked the same question, check the logs if you're that paranoid.
[15:11] <ben911> ducasse: Thanks
[15:11] <__rob> how am I meant to startxfce4 on a remote server with no screen
[15:11] <__rob> so I can vnc into it
[15:12] <linuxmonk> ducasse :that s great news , that s all I needed :)
[15:12] <the_ant> why kworker always occupying my processor. result of journalctl -xe is this, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23425890/
[15:12] <ducasse> linuxmonk: run 'md5sum $(which tcpd)', it should say 8f9ef65213bbddd6e21c414d8606e255
[15:13] <ducasse> __rob: i know you can set up lightdm to start a vnc server, that way you log in via vnc and select session on the login screen.
[15:14] <linuxmonk> ducasse:yes , I got same result! thanks
[15:14] <__rob> right, so there is no way to have a "fake" screen
[15:14] <__rob> so I can start x
[15:14] <__rob> then vnc in
[15:14] <__rob> over ssh
[15:14] <rubiesnperl> why would X work fine logged in as a guess but fail to load as the actual user?
[15:15] <ducasse> rubiesnperl: because there's a problem with that users config, most likely.
[15:15] <rubiesnperl> can i just simple overwrite it with stock info? how would i do that?
[15:16] <rubiesnperl> user config like ~/.xorg?
[15:16] <ducasse> __rob: that's what lightdm would do in that case, it runs Xvnc on a fake display. i guess you can do that manually as well, never tried.
[15:16] <ducasse> rubiesnperl: which desktop?
[15:16] <Dreaman> nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ inxi -F
[15:16] <Dreaman> System:    Host: ubuntu-ivan Kernel: 4.9.0-040900rc3-generic x86_64 (64 bit)
[15:16] <Dreaman>            Desktop: Unity 7.5.0  Distro: Ubuntu 16.10
[15:16] <Dreaman> :)
[15:16] <rubiesnperl> kubuntu and ubuntu-studio
[15:16] <__rob> ok, will give it a try
[15:16] <__rob> thanks for the pointer
[15:16] <rubiesnperl> help with one would be fine
[15:17] <genii> !info xvfb | __rob
[15:17] <ducasse> __rob: i think Xvnc4 lives in the vnc4server package. iirc.
[15:17] <__rob> ohh nice, thanks
[15:18] <__rob> only reason I want it is to browse a webpage and download a file
[15:18] <__rob> rather then having to scp it across all the time
[15:18] <__rob> dont suppose theres any text based browser
[15:18] <ducasse> rubiesnperl: ubuntu-studio uses xfce, i think. in that case try removing ~/.config/xfce4
[15:18] <__rob> or alternative way to do that
[15:18] <rubiesnperl> thanks ducasse
[15:18] <ducasse> __rob: links2, lynx, etc. there are many. links2 even does images :)
[15:18] <genii> __rob: You can use xvfb on headless machines with no graphics hardware etc, and then even forward it or grab screenshots to test different resolutions for how web pages on that machine appear, etc. It's smewhat useful
[15:18] <drkjstr> __rob, there are a couple. I know of elinks, w3m, and lynx.
[15:19] <__rob> might give xvfb a try
[15:19] <__rob> yes theres not graphics card
[15:19] <__rob> its a box in some datacentre
[15:21] <rubiesnperl> exit
[15:22] <ducasse> __rob: i'd also check Xvnc4, it's what i used when i ran vnc and it works well.
[15:23] <gnupoet> Hi! I have a problem when installing Ubutnu over PXE on a Dell server with two integrated NICs, eth0 isn't assigned to the first NIC (ie the one with lowest MAC) but to the second. Why is this? and is it possible to work around this?
[15:24] <cupssucs> hello, I have an issue with CUPS - there's a printer that I can see via /usr/lib/cups/backend/snmp IPADDRESS here, it's broadcasting on 515 and 9100, but lpinfo -v won't find it. I've configured it to browse to that IP, the subnet too
[15:26] <AnonyFox> I tried to format my usb stick but it wont let me
[15:26] <ducasse> AnonyFox: what does it say?
[15:26] <AnonyFox> It says mkfs.fat: Failed whilst writing fat
[15:26] <__rob> awesome xvfb worked - Im in
[15:26] <__rob> cheers
[15:27] <ducasse> AnonyFox: try 'dmesg | tail' and pastebin the output
[15:27] <AnonyFox> I used sudo mkfs.fat -F32 /dev/sdb
[15:27] <ducasse> AnonyFox: you should use sdb1
[15:28] <ducasse> AnonyFox: sdb is the whole device, sdb1 is the first partition
[15:28] <AnonyFox> Well im trying to reformat usb stick not my hdd
[15:28] <AnonyFox> And sdb is the usb stick
[15:28] <ducasse> AnonyFox: are there no partitions on it?
[15:29] <AnonyFox> ohh dammit sr0 is the usb stick partition xD
[15:29] <ducasse> AnonyFox: no, that's an optical drive
[15:29] <RandomNoob> Guys can I from terminal procedure brightness control notification?
[15:29] <AnonyFox> ohh lol weeeellll i guess i should not touch anything at all then xD
[15:29] <AnonyFox> I dont know what im doing
[15:29] <ducasse> AnonyFox: pastebin the output of 'lsblk'
[15:36] <AnonyFox> Heres the pastebinit output of lsblk http://paste.ubuntu.com/23425991/
[15:37] <ben911> ducasse: Maybe you'll know... I have installed everything on a raid1 (including EFI partition!) and UEFI booted to grub, for some reason grub drops to a shell, running "set" shows that root is hd1,gpt1 when it should be md/0,gpt2 (I see it in ls)
[15:37] <ducasse> AnonyFox: ok, there's no partition there now, i'm guessing you overwrote it with the mkfs.
[15:37] <ben911> ducasse: booting manually (setting prefix and root) works (forgot to set init so it dropped me to a shell)
[15:37] <ben911> ducasse: but I am not sure what is wrong with the grub configuration there... It has the right uuid for the partition in grub.cfg.
[15:38] <AnonyFox> sdb is the usb stick but how do i make a partition on sdb in terminal ?
[15:38] <ducasse> ben911: sw raid, right?
[15:38] <ben911> Any idea where does it take the wrong (hd1,gpt1) root/prefix configuration from?
[15:38] <ben911> ducasse: Yup, softraid in ubuntu installation (then automatic partitioning on the empty raid, removing swap and root and re-creating root with all available space)
[15:39] <ducasse> AnonyFox: 'sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb', then press 'n', enter, 't' select 'c', select 'write and quit
[15:39] <ben911> (Leaving the 500mb or so EFI partition in the md as-is)
[15:39] <ducasse> ben911: well, uefi knows nothing about sw raid, so it just boots from a single disk.
[15:39] <ben911> ducasse: I see, so although uefi booted grub it did so with the wrong config?
[15:40] <ducasse> ben911: as far as grub is concerned, it's not started from a raid.
[15:40] <ben911> ben911: Any way to force grub to boot from a raid via config? I want the system to work (and boot) even if a drive dies.
[15:41] <ducasse> ben911: that is above my paygrade :) i'd recommend the uefi and mdadm articles on the arch wiki, i suspect one of them knows.
[15:41] <ben911> I found something that might be worth checking, thanks!
[15:42] <AnonyFox> Hmm it will not let me make a partition on the usb stick
[15:42] <ben911> I'll update if it works :)
[15:42] <ducasse> AnonyFox: what does it say?
[15:43] <ducasse> ben911: btw, you would need to use efibootmgr to add a variable for the second drive, and set the right boot order
[15:44] <ducasse> ben911: otherwise only the first drive will boot.
[15:44] <ben911> I hate efi :/
[15:44] <ducasse> ben911: i love it :)
[15:44] <ben911> :)
[15:44] <salvocosta> !list
[15:44] <AnonyFox> Well when i run the command you gave me it takes me to a screen where i have to choose either gpt, dos, sgi, sun. And under the select label type it says device does not contain a recognized partition table. So i choosed gpt and wrote a partition to the usb stick after that it hangs and says something about that it could not write a partition
[15:44] <silvia_s15-99> hello
[15:45] <ducasse> AnonyFox: together with the mkfs error that's a pretty good indication that this drive is busted.
[15:45] <AnonyFox> Rest in peace i guess xD
[15:46] <ducasse> AnonyFox: i think so. poor little thing :)
[15:49] <ducasse> ben911: the efibootmgr man page is excellent, and with the arch wiki articles on uefi and grub you can figure most things out. just ask here, me and Eric^^ are pretty well-versed in uefi by now.
[15:49] <ducasse> *or just ask here
[15:50] <alvaroricaurte> hello friends
[15:57] <AnonyFox> Is there anyway to make the laptop with ubuntu installed booting up faster ?
[15:57] <AnonyFox> cuz right now it's booting up veeery slooow
[15:58] <ducasse> AnonyFox: define 'very slow'.
[16:07] <energizer> ssh hangs at Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_7.2p2 Ubuntu-4ubuntu2.1
[16:08] <ducasse> energizer: are you trying with '-vv' or '-vvv'?
[16:09] <energizer> ducasse: -vvv
[16:10] <ducasse> energizer: oddness. what kind of server are you trying to connect to?
[16:10] <energizer> ducasse: Ubuntu 16.04 http://paste.ubuntu.com/23426143/
[16:11] <chopparu> test
[16:12] <energizer> chopparu: yes
[16:13] <ducasse> energizer: can you try restarting sshd on the server? and check the status with systemctl.
[16:38] <peixoto> hello
[16:39] <Malgorath> I'm thinking of either doing away with windows on my current laptop or purchasing a new laptop to run specifically for developeing things in python and ruby.  I have a little i3 with 8G ram and a 1TB hard drive as my current system but it seems amazingly under powered as I tend to wait for even web site refreshes.  Whats a good laptop for linux you guys would suggest
[16:41] <CtrlC> I get the following error: bash: add-apt-repository: command not found . I installed python-software-properties but it's still same. any idea why?
[16:41] <CtrlC> It's a docker image if that helps.
[16:42] <blackflow> Malgorath: modern web is loaded with bloatware and adware that noticeably slow down page loads even on fastest cpus.
[16:42] <blackflow> I have i7 and it was unbearable until I installed ghostery and blocked all of that crapware.
[16:42] <blackflow> also, Firefox is slow, if you're using that. Chromium is significantly faster.
[16:43] <trism> CtrlC: it moved to software-properties-common in recent versions
[16:43] <OerHeks> Malgorath, use the same system for linux, should be fine
[16:43] <CtrlC> trism, thank you.
[16:43] <Malgorath> OerHeks, that i3 is the one I have ubuntu on already and it just crawls
[16:43] <energizer> ducasse: I'm not in the physical location of the server at the moment, but is this ssh output consistent with the host being totally frozen?
[16:44] <Malgorath> the win laptop is an i7 with 8G and 500G SSD 4G Nvidia card and all that but I use it ofr gaming mostly so I'd loose a gaming rig.
[16:44] <Malgorath> I mean are i3 processors just that horrible and I should go get an i5 laptop?
[16:44] <OerHeks> i run i3 fine, dual screen
[16:45] <ducasse> energizer: not necessarily, i would think it would refuse to connect if so. insanely loaded, maybe.
[16:46] <ducasse> Malgorath: this laptop is an old i3 with 4g ram, became usable when i put in an ssd.
[16:46] <Malgorath> Ducasse, I have a 5400RPM 1TB drive in the i3 right now
[16:46] <OerHeks> ducasse +1 a SSD is breaze
[16:47] <OerHeks> is a breaze*
[16:47] <ducasse> Malgorath: consider swapping that, it makes an astonishing difference.
[16:47] <ducasse> Malgorath: this ssd isn't even a good one, but helped a whole lot.
[16:49] <Malgorath> What size ssd do you guys think would be good for this laptop? I really only do web app development on it so its not like massieve graphics are done on it
[16:50] <Malgorath> I can get a 240G Sandisk for 70$
[16:50] <OerHeks> Malgorath, a small 60gb is enough
[16:50] <ducasse> Malgorath: mine is only 120gb, i could live with a fraction of that. all my data is on the nas.
[16:51] <energizer> ducasse: is there a way i can reboot or kill whatever's loading it without being able to ssh or push the button?
[16:51] <Malgorath> I have a spare 60GB SSD at home but it was the one that was kinda acting up on me befor eI put in the 1TB to test...
[16:51] <ducasse> energizer: not that i know of, unless it has ipmi or something similar.
[16:51] <Malgorath> I mean a 120G is 50$ and a 240 is 70$
[16:52] <elias_a> OerHeks: Breaze? What is that?
[16:52] <ducasse> Malgorath: you could theoretically need a little space if you need/want to have a lot of stuff with you at all times. you know, we don't :)
[16:53] <Malgorath> ducasse, yeah I know but I'm usually caring a USB 16G stick to hold things on anyways as I do work offline at times.
[16:53] <OerHeks> elias_a, easily/fast/without disruption
[16:53] <Malgorath> SSD uses less battery too right?
[16:53] <ducasse> Malgorath: afaik, yes.
[16:54] <OerHeks> Malgorath, yes, the real profit is fast response, 0 sec waiting time
[16:54] <ducasse> Malgorath: i'd recommend the samsung 850 evo, have a couple myself. very good drives. also, bigger drives are usually faster.
[16:55] <CtrlC>  Is it possible to run lxd setup in a docker container?
[16:55] <elias_a> OerHeks: Oh, you mean like breeze? :)
[16:55] <ducasse> CtrlC: that sounds like confusion waiting to happen.
[16:55] <CtrlC> ducasse, tell me more.
[16:56] <ducasse> CtrlC: i just fail to see why you'd want to add an extra layer there.
[16:57] <CtrlC> ducasse, resources problem. Can't get an ubuntu at the moment.
[16:57] <CtrlC> I'm getting the following error: lxc launch ubuntu
[16:57] <CtrlC> LXD socket not found; is LXD installed and running?
[16:58] <elias_a> Malgorath: Another vote for SSD from here. The only negative thing is smaller capacity which is also a good thing in a way at least in a laptop. You have to think about what you keep with you and what not... :P
[16:58] <CtrlC> I don't know if it's cause of docker or I messed something up.
[16:58] <ducasse> CtrlC: i don't know docker well enough to say, i avoid it whenever possible. try #ubuntu-server, maybe.
[17:00] <odroid> hi
[17:01] <odroid> any one here?
[17:02] <ducasse> odroid: only if you know the password.
[17:02] <odroid> new to here,whats that?
[17:03] <ducasse> odroid: just joking, nvm :)
[17:03] <Malgorath> ducasse, yeah 850 evo is 95$ for 250G so I'll probably go with that one
[17:04] <odroid> guys,my firfox and chorumium will crash after loading,what to do?
[17:04] <ducasse> Malgorath: bigger drives have more chips that can be accessed simultaneously, so they are faster. that's another benefit.
[17:06] <CtrlC> ducasse, thanks.
[17:07] <odroid> guys,my firfox and chorumium will crash after loading,what to do?
[17:08] <OerHeks> odroid, wipe the ~/.config for these browsers and restart?
[17:09] <OerHeks> you might loose plugins and setting, nothing i can do about that
[17:09] <needhelpasap> hello all
[17:10] <needhelpasap> i have a problem.. may i ask a question about it?
[17:10] <ducasse> !ask | needhelpasap
[17:10] <odroid> [Child 6113] WARNING: pipe error (3): Connection reset by peer: file /build/firefox-5GU1nq/firefox-49.0.2+build2/ipc/chromium/src/chrome/common/ipc_channel_posix.cc, line 316
[17:11] <needhelpasap> i have a asus eee pc which is old and built on atom processor...so performance isnt great and ubuntu doesnt run smoothly on it.. what can i do??
[17:11] <ducasse> needhelpasap: try lubuntu
[17:12] <needhelpasap> tried that too...same situation
[17:12] <odroid> Segmentation fault
[17:12] <ducasse> needhelpasap: how much ram?
[17:13] <odroid> how to disable plank?
[17:13] <needhelpasap> 1 GB RAM
[17:13] <ducasse> needhelpasap: you could try something like dsl or puppy linux, but we support neither. nothing is going to make that an awesome machine, however.
[17:15] <SCHAAP137> 1GB is quite a low amount, these days
[17:16] <needhelpasap> ducasse: i just want to do basic stuff...like listening to music,browsing internet,watching movies,read or edit books and documnets.... i just want to do this work smoothly... not like that in which i click an application icon and it gets activated after 2 minutes
 yes
[17:16] <ioria> needhelpasap, what are you running right now  ?
 its an old machine
[17:17] <OerHeks> needhelpasap, you should be able to do all that, except movies i guess
[17:17] <needhelpasap> ioria: win 7
[17:17] <needhelpasap> 32 bit
[17:17] <faekjarz> Hey there! The latest update, the one with the nvidia driver, broke my box. When booting Linux 4.4.0-43 GDM doesn't start, and linux 4.4.0-45 doesn't ask for my LUKS pw. How do i restore my box? (and why does the nvidia driver not work?)
[17:17] <faekjarz> …is this a known issue?
[17:17] <ioria> needhelpasap, on that atom i mean ...
[17:18] <needhelpasap> ioria: yes on that atom i am running win 7
[17:18] <needhelpasap> it works faster than ubuntu
[17:18] <ioria> needhelpasap, so, not installed ?
[17:18] <needhelpasap> ioria: its installed
[17:19] <ioria> needhelpasap, lubuntu , i mean
[17:19] <ioria> needhelpasap, have you tried only from livecd ?
[17:19] <needhelpasap> ioria: lubuntu i tried then removed it cause it was laggy
[17:20] <needhelpasap> ioria: no i actually installed them on harddrive by using bootable pendrive
[17:21] <ioria> needhelpasap, if you install lubuntu again,  you can try fluxbox
[17:21] <needhelpasap> ioria, what is that
[17:22] <ioria> needhelpasap, a light wm
[17:22] <ioria> needhelpasap, try 14.04
[17:23] <needhelpasap> ioria, u mean to say i will first install lubuntu and then the tool fluxbox so it wont lag again??
[17:23] <ioria> needhelpasap, should not be laggy with 1G
[17:24] <ioria> needhelpasap, neither lubuntu should be
[17:24] <ioria> needhelpasap, to be honest
[17:24] <needhelpasap> ioria, ok will try it now...tnx for your time
[17:24] <ioria> needhelpasap, so you can provide free -m and your cpu specs
[17:25] <OerHeks> "laggy" is so easily said, what do you expect of an old netbook?
[17:25] <needhelpasap> ioria, one more question.. is there any directory where i can see all the freenode channels based on topics?
[17:26] <ducasse> !alis | needhelpasap
[17:26] <ioria> that ^
[17:26] <needhelpasap> ok thnx all....
[17:26] <ioria> needhelpasap, there is also the Alternate Lubuntu 14.04
[17:27] <needhelpasap> !alis
[17:27] <mido> hi
[17:27] <ducasse> needhelpasap: iirc, you also get a plain openbox session when you install lubuntu, you could try that.
[17:28] <mido> i need help
[17:29] <ioria> needhelpasap, yes, but pitch black and no task bar .... if you don't know it can be a pain
[17:31] <stan_man_can> hey all, running 16.04. Sometimes when I log in to an account my mouse cursor is hidden for 5-30 seconds. I can move it around, but it's just invisible. Then it randomly appears. Any ideas?
[17:44] <oxkipo> Hi, how can I assign whole interface to a program?
[17:45] <stan_man_can> oxkipo, F11?
[17:45] <oxkipo> stan_man_can: how F11?
[17:46] <OnlineDater> If I SSH into the computer and use mplayer, it plays through the speakers of the machine. Mplayer locally plays through the digital output (expected). Testing audio doesn't work (can't get it to say "front left" and co) before alsamixer couldn't find a mixer. Any idea where to look? Don't expect a fix - I have no idea how to investigate.
[17:48] <ducasse> OnlineDater: you want to run mplayer remotely and get sound locally?
[17:48] <OnlineDater> ducasse: no
[17:48] <OnlineDater> By locally I mean "mplayer on the machine"
[17:48] <ioria> !info paprefs
[17:48] <OnlineDater> Alsa....
[17:49] <OnlineDater> I think?
[17:49] <OnlineDater> Yep
[17:49] <OnlineDater> AO: [pulse] Init failed: Connection refused
[17:49] <OnlineDater> Failed to initialize audio driver 'pulse'
[17:49] <OnlineDater> AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
[17:49] <OnlineDater> Video: no video
[17:49] <OnlineDater> Starting playback...
[17:50] <oxkipo> please may someone help me?
[17:51] <ioria> OnlineDater, http://superuser.com/questions/231920/forwarding-audio-like-x-in-ssh       something like this ?
[17:51] <OnlineDater> iooner: I don't want to forward audio?
[17:52] <OnlineDater> There's a computer, lets call it X. I want to play something on X. If I SSH into X from anywhere else it plays through X's speakers, but playing on X locally outputs on speakers.
[17:52] <OnlineDater> There's a computer, lets call it X. I want to play something on X. If I SSH into X from anywhere else it plays through X's speakers, but playing on X locally outputs digitally to the real speakers.
[17:52] <OnlineDater> Even
[17:53] <OnlineDater> Sound preferences -> hardware -> test doesn't actually work. And moments before alsamixer found no mixer and all kinds of other problems. I'm not sure how to investigate.
[17:55] <OnlineDater> Yep. Thought it was weird.
[17:57] <ducasse> OnlineDater: you want sound to be output _where_? through the analog output rather than digital?
[17:58] <OnlineDater> X's output settings ducasse
[17:58] <OnlineDater> 'cos now it's changed again and mplayer over SSH outputs from X digitally. I've NOT CHANGED ANYTHING!
[17:58]  * OnlineDater wants to find out why.
[18:00] <ducasse> OnlineDater: are you unable to select output device in pavucontrol?
[18:01] <OnlineDater> ducasse: that's not even installed.
[18:02] <OnlineDater> If it helps I'm not looking for a fix, I want to be pointed in the right direction to find out what is going on.
[18:04] <asusE200HA> hello there
[18:04] <asusE200HA> i bought this netbook https://www.asus.com/Notebooks/ASUS-Vivobook-E200HA/specifications/
[18:04] <stanreg> Upon doing a "ls" in /media/$user/, I see my (auto-mounted) mass storage fine. I then reboot the mass storage unit. OS anounces that it has mounted it. "ls" in the same directory shows no files, however. It is only after opening a file manager (Caja) and browsing to the specified dir that a "ls" will finally work again. Any ideas on what could be causing that? Or how to work around it?
[18:04] <asusE200HA> it has uefi
[18:04] <asusE200HA> but i can't boot from usb ubuntu64 bit
[18:05] <asusE200HA> when i press to boot usb, just starts windows 10
[18:08] <ducasse> asusE200HA: could it possibly have a 32-bit uefi?
[18:08] <AlexMex90> Hi! I need help with my Ubuntu Nexus 4 phone. the sound indicator does not work and I have no audio... is there a way to restart it without rebooting?
[18:08] <ducasse> !touch | AlexMex90
[18:09] <AlexMex90> thanks
[18:09] <BandC> My wired network connection on my Ubuntu 16.04 suddenly went out yesterday for no reason while Ubuntu was running. I rebooted but it doesn't connect. I know for sure that there is Internet (My Ubuntu is a guest in Virtualbox and the Windows Host has Internet). Everything was always working fine and I didn't change anything. How can I troubleshoot this?
[18:09] <ikonia> BandC: look if it's getting an IP address from dhcp
[18:09] <ikonia> look if it's able to not work with IP's or just names
[18:09] <OnlineDater> So anyone gonna introduce me to Linux sound...?
[18:09] <BandC> you mean ifconfig?
[18:09] <ikonia> BandC: ,no I mean look if your host gets a a valid IP for the dhcp server
[18:10] <ikonia> OnlineDater: you'll do better if you state the problem clearly
[18:10] <ikonia> OnlineDater: https://help.ubuntu.com has the desktop info on how to configure sound
[18:10] <OnlineDater> ikonia: I know nothing about how sound works on Linux. I'd like to fix that.
[18:10] <OnlineDater> For example, what would someone who does look at in my situation?
[18:10] <ikonia> OnlineDater: ok - so you need to understand how the distro the uses sound, no linux
[18:11] <ikonia> someone who would be willing to help you would analyise your setup
[18:11] <OnlineDater> Great
[18:11] <BandC> ikonia: where would i see that? I can't ping IP addressed or domain names if that's what you mean
[18:11] <ikonia> BandC: are you using network manager ?
[18:12] <BandC> yes
[18:12] <ikonia> you should see it in network manager, you should also see it from the termina with "ip addr"
[18:13] <BandC> this is what i see with ip addr
[18:13] <BandC> 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1     link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00     inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever     inet6 ::1/128 scope host         valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 2: enp0s3: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP group default qlen 1000     link/ether 08:00:27:15:6
[18:13] <ikonia> BandC: lo is hte loop back, and enp0s3 is your card, it has no ip
[18:13] <ikonia> BandC: that is the problem
[18:14] <BandC> how would I fix that? like i said this happened middle of nowhere when ubuntu was running yesterday
[18:15] <ikonia> BandC: so I suspect it's not been able to get an IP for a while and the dhcp lease expired
[18:16] <BandC> my ubuntu is a virtualbox guest under a windows host. the windows host has internet and has no problems. do you think this is an ubuntu networking issue or something outside ubuntu?
[18:17] <ducasse> BandC: could very well be a vbox issue
[18:17] <BandC> what's weird is nothing changed. how would i renew the dhcp lease?
[18:18] <ducasse> BandC: restart network manager should do it
[18:19] <BandC> ducasse: i just did. no luck :(
[18:19] <ducasse> BandC: can you pastebin your dmesg?
[18:20] <ducasse> BandC: (the end is probably most relevant)
[18:21] <quele> What is a swap for?
[18:22] <BandC> ducasse: here you go: http://pastebin.com/uRzuuUDE
[18:24] <yuri> quele, swap is something like RAM but is a virtual memory alocated in your disk to help the RAM
[18:25] <momoterraw> Do any of you guys know what this is https://www.evernote.com/l/AAO4o100AIhH-Y7EpdLZrKFOXxvMnlZiDWE
[18:25] <momoterraw> i tried to turn on my computer
[18:25] <momoterraw> and i get that
[18:25] <momoterraw> stuck
[18:25] <momoterraw> cant see grub ...
[18:30] <quele> yuri so when i run out of my ram it will use my swap?
[18:31] <faekjarz> fyi: apt install nvidia-361=361.42-0ubuntu2 …downgrading to previous version solved my problem …apparently there's something wrong with the latest driver
[18:31] <elodinn> has anyone had difficulties when they last installed ubuntu?
[18:31] <blackflow> quele: in short yes, but it's a bit more involved as it might swap out unused memory even with sufficient RAM. which is good.
[18:31] <momoterraw> faekjarz: is that to me?
[18:31] <elodinn> besides driver issues
[18:32] <ducasse> BandC: i can't say for sure, sorry. you might want to look at your virtualbox network settings, make sure they are unchanged.
[18:32] <quele> blackflow i have 2GB of ram and i want to run unity
[18:33] <quele> blackflow what will happen when i run out of the 2GB?
[18:33] <quele> blackflow will my system because supper slow?
[18:33] <blackflow> it will slow down if and when the OS starts swapping in and out memory
[18:33] <BandC> ok ducasse will do. thanks anyways
[18:34] <faekjarz> momoterraw: nope, uhm, well, maybe, do you struggle with "no login after nvidia driver update"? It's primarily meant as a solution to _my_ problem.
[18:34] <quele> blackflow hmm maybe i should install a different distrobution more for my 2GB system?
[18:35] <blackflow> quele: I don't know. Personally, I'd say 2GB is a bit low for running a modern desktop based on heavy environments like gnome, unity, kde
[18:36] <blackflow> quele: in fact, observing my RAM usage now on 16.04 Unity, it's 3.5GB and I have chromium running with a bunch of tabs open, nothing else.
[18:36] <ducasse> elodinn: more importantly, did *you* have difficulties?
[18:36] <quele> blackflow i see i thought the requirements of the page would be sufficient
[18:36] <xXEoflaOEXx> Test XFCE, Does it use more RAM on XFCE?
[18:38] <Industrial> Hi!
[18:38] <xXEoflaOEXx> hi
[18:38] <opnsrc> i'm trying to setup some sort of mirror failover in /etc/apt/sources.list by adding 3 mirrors to the top of /etc/apt/sources.list  My question is, will apt-get failover to the next available if there is a failure of one of those 3 mirrors?
[18:38] <elodinn> ducasse: no, I'm just trying to work out if installing it now is a good idea because I need to be able to use my computer
[18:38] <Industrial> How do I make a .deb for a package? Is there an automated way to make a .deb from a github repo? I don't want the use the old ubuntu version but I want the latest from github.
[18:39] <Industrial> Ubuntu ships spectrwm 2.6 I want https://github.com/conformal/spectrwm/releases/tag/SPECTRWM_3_0_2
[18:40] <ducasse> elodinn: i've had no problems with either 16.04 or 16.10, but my machines do not have the same hardware yours do, most likely. if a live image works well you are probably ok.
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[18:40] <Industrial> Oh I see 16.10 does do the latest one.
[18:40] <elodinn> ducasse: ah okay
[18:40] <elodinn> thank you
[18:41] <elodinn> ducasse: I suppose it's a good idea to try and install graphics drivers and such on the livecd first?
[18:41] <elodinn> to see if it works
[18:41] <Industrial> I am running 16.04
[18:41] <Industrial> `sudo do-release-upgrade -d` doesnt work
[18:41] <blackflow> elodinn: doesn't that require reboot which reverts your driver choice?
[18:41] <ducasse> elodinn: don't think you can, as it will just reboot with the old drivers.
[18:41] <elodinn> oh
[18:41] <elodinn> :(
[18:42] <xXEoflaOEXx> Industrial: Does it say No new releases found?
[18:42] <plujon> My Mom is using 14.04.  She just called me telling me that she can no longer login to her desktop.  When she enters her password, it appears to accept it, but then a box briefly pops up that says, "an error has been detected", and then she is back to the logon screen.
[18:42] <ducasse> Industrial: take away -d
[18:42] <plujon> dmesg shows a segfault in QXcbEventReader (error 14 in local-archive]
[18:42] <xXEoflaOEXx> the -d signal is checking for a possibility to upgrade to development versions.
[18:43] <plujon> She is able to login to the command line as root through a rescue shell.  What should she do to fix her system?
[18:43] <blackflow> Industrial: check the file /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades  and set prompt to normal
[18:43] <ducasse> Industrial: if it still doesn't work, open software settings and set to "notify for any new version", then try again.
[18:44] <blackflow> or what ducasse said. :)
[18:44] <ducasse> blackflow: couldn't be bothered to type out that path :)
[18:45] <ducasse> plujon: which desktop is she using?
[18:45] <elodinn> ducasse: do you know if the live cd only has software rendering or has some drivers preinstalled?
[18:45] <elodinn> ducasse: I just have an integrated (intel) gpu
[18:45] <ztane> hmm sddm-greeter dies with 11 as soon as it starts
[18:46] <ducasse> elodinn: it uses the opensource drivers, for intel there is only one driver.
[18:46] <ducasse> elodinn: intel stuff tends to work well. do you know which generation you've got?
[18:48] <Industrial> blackflow: worked
[18:48] <BandC> ducasse: ikonia so i changed vbox network settings back and forth and now it works. it's really weird i hadn't changed at all. anyway, thanks for trying to help
[18:48] <ikonia> BandC: vbox ?
[18:48] <ducasse> BandC: maybe it just needed a kick :)
[18:48] <BandC> virtualbox
[18:48] <ikonia> BandC: you didn't mention anything about vbox when I reading
[18:48] <plujon> ducasse: Ubuntu 14.04.
[18:48] <BandC> i guess :)
[18:49] <BandC> i thought i did
[18:49] <plujon> ducasse: Default setup (Unity?)
[18:49] <elodinn> ducasse: Haswell, I just checked
[18:50] <ducasse> plujon: unity? i would try logging in on a console (ctrl+alt+f1 from login screen, alt+f7 to go back) and delete unity settings, but i don't use unity, so don't know where the settings live.
[18:51] <ducasse> elodinn: mine is also haswell, that generation chipsets generally work without problems.
[18:51] <elodinn> ducasse: alright, great
[18:51] <elodinn> Thanks
[18:51] <elodinn> I'll see how the livecd works
[18:51] <ducasse> elodinn: with intel chipset you are pretty safe :)
[18:54] <mikodo> I want to 'do-release upgrade' (Xubuntu) from 16.04.1 to 16.10. I have a third party VPN that is installed in  (~/.pia_manager) non-root that connects with openvpn-64 when I choose. I can shut it off when I wish. Should I delete this app before I (do-release-upgrade)?
[18:54] <xXEoflaOEXx> mikodo: Test it, if it does not work, you should remove it
[18:54] <plujon> ducasse: Ctrl-Alt-F1 works for her.  But she doesn't know how to do anything at a command line.  Is Ubuntu not intended for mothers?
[18:55] <mikodo> xXEoflaOEXx, Test by seeing if I can upgrade by trying it?
[18:56] <xXEoflaOEXx> mikodo: You could try it with VPN, If it does not work, you should remove it
[18:56] <mikodo> xXEoflaOEXx,  Thank you. I will do that.
[18:57] <ducasse> plujon: this is not something that is intended to happen :) you could do the same thing from another gui if you had one installed, but i don't expect she has.
[18:57] <xXEoflaOEXx> mikodo: welcome
[19:06] <v4nelle> Hi
[19:07] <xXEoflaOEXx> hi
[19:08] <prg318> Which file can I use to run a command on each x session start up in Ubuntu 16.10?
[19:08] <al_nz1>  if I want a linux computer to be able to send emails (for alerts etc) I have read I should setup postfix. I see during setup it wants a domain, but this computer is just on a workgroup. So what do I use for domain? (I want to use my ISP's SMTP server)
[19:08] <v4nelle> Guys what ia the best way to install minimal commandline ubuntu?Via minimal desktop iso or via server iso?
[19:08] <prg318> basically i want to run a xkbset command regardless of what session i choose from gdm
[19:12] <knittell_> hello
[19:12] <ducasse> prg318: put it in ~/.xsessionrc
[19:12] <th0r_> prg318, I think ~/.profile runs once per session, ~/.bashrc every time you open a shell
[19:13] <knittell_> here's only talk about ubuntu?
[19:13] <xXEoflaOEXx> this channel is only for Ubuntu support knitell_
[19:13] <ducasse> th0r_: then it would run every time he opens a terminal, and also on consoles where there is no x server.
[19:13] <pantato> is there something wrong with the ubuntu repositories right now?
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> pantato  'wrong' as in...?
[19:14] <knittell_> ok, tx well i am new with ubuntu i have mate on this system
[19:14] <knittell_> i try to find out how to make VLC dvd compatible
[19:14] <xXEoflaOEXx> knittell_ do you mean Ubuntu MATE?
[19:14] <knittell_> yes
[19:15] <pantato> MonkeyDust: http://imgur.com/a/AQtUS
[19:15] <th0r_> ducasse, agreed for .bashrc, not sure about .profile so will bow to you on that one.
[19:15] <knittell_> can i still find a site where i can download a bootable 64 bits ubuntu mate dvd?
[19:16] <ducasse> th0r_: iirc, .profile is loaded first and for all shells, then .bashrc is parsed if the shell is bash
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> pantato  no problem here, try a ifferent mirror
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> different*
[19:16] <prg318> ducasse: thanks
[19:17] <knittell_> it seems i am not on the good place in here
[19:17] <pantato> MonkeyDust: nothing is working. I can ping them just fine. The apt-get just doesn't work
[19:17] <knittell_> suggestions for newbees?
[19:17] <knittell_> (what i am)
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> pantato  must be local, it works here
[19:18] <pantato> MonkeyDust: but why would i be able to ping the domain just fine and browse the web just fine but the apt-get update doesn't work?
[19:18] <pantato> 64 bytes from ovinnik.canonical.com (91.189.94.40): icmp_seq=1 ttl=48 time=191 ms
[19:19] <EriC^^> knittell_: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/releases/16.04.1/release/ubuntu-mate-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[19:19] <knittell_> thank you
[19:20] <ducasse> knittell_: here also https://ubuntu-mate.org/download/
[19:20] <knittell_> thanks ducasse & eric
[19:21] <EriC^^> knittell_: no problem
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> pantato  not sure, select a different mirror in the system settings, then try again
[19:22] <pantato> MonkeyDust: I've tried many.
[19:23] <ioria> pantato, same output in terminal ?
[19:23] <knittell_> thanks, busy with downloading
[19:23] <knittell_> suggestion how i can learn ubuntu fast?
[19:24] <xXEoflaOEXx> at-spi-bus-launcher kept segfaulting but not randomly, it is rarely doing it, It crashed with SIGSEGV signal, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23427011/
[19:24] <knittell_> i have always worked and installed with windows
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> !manual | knittell_ start here
[19:24] <knittell_> talk about listening music...
[19:24] <knittell_> vlc i cant configurate well
[19:25] <knittell_> urfing the web and youtube are easy
[19:25] <knittell_> even download and listen the downloaded music
[19:25] <knittell_> (surfing)
[19:25] <ducasse> knittell_: try smplayer instead of vlc, works better for me
[19:25] <knittell_> ok
[19:27] <pantato> ioria: yeah
[19:27] <pantato> is there a log i can look at for a more detailed error
[19:27] <pantato> ?
[19:27] <pantato> this is such bs
[19:28] <ioria> pantato, us repos are ok
[19:28] <ioria> pantato, using proxy ? changed dns ?
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> pantato  in which country are you
[19:29] <pantato> ioria: i think my coworker did something to this machine like connected to a proxy in a weird way
[19:29] <pantato> i'm pretty pissed off
[19:29] <pantato> i can't see any proxys in the regular network settings though
[19:30] <xXEoflaOEXx> pantato: Please find a nearest mirror server, depends on your country
[19:30] <ducasse> pantato: is http_proxy env var set? or anything in apt preferences?
[19:30] <ioria> pantato, grep proxy  /etc/environment
[19:30] <pantato> xXEoflaOEXx: they don't work I've tried them all
[19:30] <Haegin> Howdy. I'm trying to use the ubuntu Docker image to get a blank shell environment for a talk I'm giving on how to get more usage out of your shell, but I can't get it to run bash. It's stubbornly insisting that it wants to run dash instead. Zsh is working fine though and I've got both packages installed. Does anyone know what I'm missing?
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> pantato  "all"? that's a great many
[19:31] <pantato> http_proxy="http://172.16.1.204:8888/"
[19:31] <pantato> that's what /etc/environment reveals
[19:31] <pantato> how in the hell did he do that....jeesus
[19:31] <xXEoflaOEXx> pantato: Remove it, and see
[19:31] <pantato> how do i turn it off?
[19:31] <pantato> just delete that line?
[19:31] <ioria> yep
[19:31] <pantato> man i am pissed i wasted so much time at work trying to fix this shit
[19:31] <ioria> pantato,  back up first
[19:32] <ducasse> pantato: and 'unset http_proxy' in the shell you are using
[19:32] <pantato> ducasse: unknown command
[19:33] <ducasse> pantato: what's your shell?
[19:33] <pantato> bash
[19:33] <xXEoflaOEXx> maybe unset is not installed
[19:33] <pantato> nvm it worked when i didn't use sudo
[19:34] <ducasse> xXEoflaOEXx: 'unset' is a bash function, not a command
[19:34] <ducasse> built-in, sorry
[19:34] <xXEoflaOEXx> ducasse, ok I knew that
[19:35] <ioria> pantato,  also this please   grep proxy /etc/bash.bashrc
[19:36] <pantato> it's STILL FAILING
[19:36] <pantato> i rebooted
[19:36] <pantato> UGH
[19:36] <ioria> pantato,  maybe there is an apt.conf
[19:37] <pantato> where else might a proxy be set?
[19:37] <ducasse> pantato: 'grep -i proxy /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/*'
[19:38] <ioria> pantato,  also echo $http_proxy
[19:39] <ioria> pantato,  but it could be also named in another way , like 80proxy
[19:41] <pantato> nada...
[19:42] <ioria> pantato,     grep proxy /etc/bash.bashrc
[19:42] <v4nelle> Guys how can i install ubuntu minimal on a uefi machine?
[19:45] <amrith> hello, would someone please check whether the checksums for the latest ubuntu trust cloudimages are valid? appears that I'm able to consistently produce the same downloaded file but checksum fails. You can run this script to verify for yourself. https://gist.github.com/amrith/fe86855e5ffcf0c0f0aa8b88bf26f8d1
[19:45] <JohnDoeRambo1> hi everybody ! I'm trying to find what vpn should i use (vypr, hma ...) Any advise ?
[19:46] <ducasse> pantato: 'apt-config | grep -i proxy' and also the same for 'env' instead of 'apt-config'
[19:47] <ducasse> JohnDoeRambo1: try #ubuntu-offtopic, ##security or ##networking
[19:48] <JohnDoeRambo1> ducasse thank you !
[19:49] <pantato> ducasse: nothing..
[19:50] <pantato> isn't there a log i can look at to see why the connection is failing when i apt-get update ?
[19:52] <EriC^^> pantato: dmesg maybe
[19:53] <ducasse> pantato: look under /var/log/apt
[19:54] <ducasse> pantato: could it by trying (and failing) to use ipv6?
[19:54] <pantato> ducasse: it's a possibility.
[19:55] <vim-noob> Hi.
[19:55] <vim-noob> I'm looking to buy a PS3 so that I can install Ubuntu on it.
[19:55] <ducasse> pantato: 'apt-get -o Acquire::ForceIPv4 "true" update'
[19:55] <vim-noob> So that I can connect it to my TV for browser access.
[19:56] <vim-noob> Which year of PS3 model is best in terms of compatibility with Ubuntu releases?
[19:56] <vim-noob> As not too sure which Ubuntu releases are compatible with any of the PS3 models.
[19:56] <pantato> vim-noob: why not buy an old dell instead?
[19:56] <pantato> or a mini pc?
[19:57] <ducasse> vim-noob: sony shut that down, you need a specific firmware version which you cannot upgrade. afaik ubuntu doesn't run on ps3 either.
[19:57] <pantato> i use an old dell for it , put an ssd in it, a small video card with an hdmi slot, and it's amazing
[19:58] <vim-noob> ducasse: AFAIK Ubuntu does run on PS3, also I believe OtherOS was re-enabled after a successful appeal process overturned the original court decision?
[19:58] <OerHeks> as PS3 is running on a Cell processor/powerpc, i guess you have a small choise.
[19:58] <vim-noob> pantato: I just want to use the PS3 to connect to the TV for browser access, and also to play DVDs.
[19:59] <vim-noob> pantato: I can get some pretty cheap PS3s on Amazon at around £40.
[19:59] <vim-noob> New not used
[20:00] <ducasse> vim-noob: "However this decision was overturned in a 2014 appellate court decision[4] finding that plaintiffs had indeed made clear and sufficiently substantial claims. Ultimately, in 2016, Sony settled with users who installed Linux or purchased a PlayStation 3 based upon the alternative OS functionality.[5]"
[20:00] <OerHeks> vim-noob, try #ubuntu-powerpc
[20:00] <M3rl1n> hello
[20:01] <M3rl1n> hello
[20:01] <ducasse> vim-noob: or just get a raspberry pi or something
[20:02] <M3rl1n> french ?
[20:02] <ducasse> !fr | M3rl1n
[20:02] <M3rl1n> thank you
[20:02] <pantato> ok i figured it out. I just had to reaffirm the disconnection via the network settings gui.
[20:02] <pantato> Fucking weird
[20:03] <yocs0000> i everybody .... I am looking for graphic tools to manager mysql server for a newbie.  Any suggestions?
[20:03] <vim-noob> ducasse: Thanks, never thought of that :P
[20:04] <OerHeks> yocs0000, you might want to reask in #ubuntu-server too
[20:05] <ioria> !info phpmyadmin
[20:07] <yocs0000> thank you OerHeks .... it is for newbies, for example my wife :) .... why do we make things so unfriendly on linux?
[20:08] <Flannel> yocs0000: mysql-workbench, the same workbench available on other OSes
[20:09] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/mysql-workbench
[20:09] <OerHeks> and there is a good wiki too, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/mysql.html
[20:13] <yocs0000> Flannel: yes, but the workbench does not connect to the sever when you start it
[20:13] <Flannel> yocs0000: Right, you need to do that.  But once you set it up once, connecting the second time is easier, because it's saved.
[20:14] <yocs0000> Flannel: yes, but you have to udnerstand that if I do it, I use the CLI, if it is a newbie, for example thw wife, she would like to fire it up and start using it
[20:14] <Flannel> yocs0000: SQL isn't inheritly "newbie friendly", that's just the nature of the beast.
[20:15] <yocs0000> Flannel: ok let's reformulate the question: how does my wife create anew mysql database?
[20:15] <yocs0000> Flannel: like you would do on Windows or on OSX.
[20:16] <Flannel> yocs0000: MySQL workbench is the *identical* MySQL Workbench one would use on OSX or Windows.  So... I suppose one would do it "the same way"
[20:16] <yocs0000> Flannel: no, because when you launch it it does not connect to the sever, it returns an error
[20:17] <timvisher> does working with a particular version of ubuntu mean you're working with a particular version of upstart? is there a way to check the version of upstart you're working with?
[20:17] <Flannel> yocs0000: Normal MySQL Workbenches on windows doesn't connect to a server when you first start it.  I can tell you that from personal experience.
[20:17] <yocs0000> Flannel: yes, you click on the sever you want to manage and it connects
[20:18] <yocs0000> Flannel: in ubuntu you click on the server an it return a host of errors
[20:18] <Flannel> yocs0000: Well, it's the same program, so it should function identically.  Is it possible that the server you're connecting to isn't configured properly?
[20:19] <yocs0000> Flannel: nope, it is configured properly.  SO, what is the sever password in ubuntu?
[20:20] <yocs0000> Flannel: the default one.
[20:20] <Flannel> yocs0000: There is no default one.
[20:20] <yocs0000> Flannel: you see the problem?
[20:20] <Flannel> yocs0000: No.
[20:20] <catbadger> I'm having problems with jackd
[20:20] <Flannel> yocs0000: Sounds like you haven't finished setting up MySQL on Ubuntu.
[20:20] <catbadger> anyone a jack genius?
[20:21] <Flannel> yocs0000: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#After_installing_MySQL
[20:21] <Flannel> yocs0000: That's stuff you have to do after installing MySQL to get your users/etc setup.
[20:21] <Flannel> yocs0000: Once you follow that (which is pretty straightforward), you'll be good to go.
[20:21] <yocs0000> Flannel: yes, that is not the issue here .... I know how to do that, the issue here is that a newbie cannot do that without having troubles
[20:22] <ioria> guis sometimes are for experts users, and cli for newbies
[20:22] <Flannel> yocs0000: If you'd like to discuss the philosphy behind the default configuration, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic.  This is a channel for technical support, not discussions.
[20:22] <yocs0000> ioria: good point, that is why everybody can use a Mac but people find Linux so difficult
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> yocs0000  tank you for saying that we are more intelligent
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> thank*
[20:23] <ioria> yocs0000, what's the prob with phpadmin ?
[20:23] <yocs0000> Flannel: actually no, I asked a question which is "how can a newbie create a mysql database?" which is a technical question ....
[20:24] <yocs0000> ioria: that you need to configure the password, and a newbie has difficulties in doing that
[20:24] <Flannel> yocs0000: and I answered that.  Once you've gotten into "why", you're now discussing the philosophy behind the configuration, which is a great topic for #ubuntu-offtopic, but is not technical support, and does not belong in #ubuntu
[20:25] <yocs0000> Flannel: no, you send a very complicated document whihc no newbie can go through ....
[20:25] <nacc> yocs0000: "I am looking for graphic tools to manager mysql server for a newbie". You never asked the question which you claimed to have asked.
[20:25] <Flannel> yocs0000: Please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[20:25] <yocs0000> Flannel: I am asking if there is a simple way (newbie level)
[20:25] <yocs0000> Flannel:it is the same question rephrased.
[20:26] <ioria> yocs0000, this is not complicated : https://www.unixmen.com/how-to-install-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-15-10/
[20:26] <Flannel> yocs0000: Following a few steps to configure your server is "the newbie way", it's also the non-newbie way.  So yes, those instructions are the instructions.
[20:26] <yocs0000> Flannel: ioria: Ok, forget it thank you.
[20:28] <Flannel> yocs0000: Furthermore, and again, this really belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic, trying to set up a server without ever consulting any documentation is a fools errand.  You shouldn't be running random services on your machine without knowing anything about them.  This leads to situations which are similar to the IoT DDOS, because of "default passwords" and things like that.
[20:31] <lucdalpe> I am looking for a Whizard capable to integrate TO_Affiliate Odoo module...
[20:31] <lucdalpe> That requires a Senior Odoo Developer ;-)
[20:31] <yocs0000> Flannel: look, the question was really simple, you are going completely offtopic
[20:32] <Flannel> lucdalpe: Try #odoo
[20:35] <DanC> I'm trying to upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04, but update-manager keeps telling me my system is up-to-date. It used to tell me there was a new release available; did I swat away the wrong dialog or something? clues?
[20:36] <DanC> `update-manager --check-dist-upgrades` says "The software on this computer is up to date."
[20:37] <Bashing-om> !eol | DanC
[20:37] <ducasse> DanC: set prompt to normal in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[20:37] <ioria> DanC, grep lts  /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[20:38] <newbuntu> hey all
[20:38] <ioria> DanC, grep prompt  /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[20:38] <Rarrikins> DanC: Open Software & Updates, go to the Updates tab, set "Notify me of a new Ubuntu version".
[20:38] <newbuntu> suggest a chat source of someone to hold my hand through an install and config coming off windows 10?
[20:38] <ootani> おはよう
[20:39] <scaryspider> hi
[20:39] <scaryspider> hg
[20:39] <scaryspider> g-fh
[20:39] <scaryspider> gr
[20:39] <scaryspider> fg
[20:39] <scaryspider> ňg
[20:39] <scaryspider> ňth
[20:40] <ducasse> newbuntu: just ask any questions you have here, and someone will answer
[20:41] <AnonyFox> !elp
[20:41] <AnonyFox> !help
[20:42] <AnonyFox> How do i use cd to get to my usb stick folder guys ? :D
[20:43] <AnonyFox> is dev where i should be looking in ?
[20:43] <ioria> AnonyFox, try to look in /media/<user>
[20:44] <rocket2Moon> use dmesg | tail and read which device then mount it etc
[20:44] <AnonyFox> Did and found nothing there
[20:44] <ioria> AnonyFox, not automounted then ... run sudo parted -l
[20:44] <ioria> AnonyFox, and  mount
[20:45] <elodinn> AnonyFox: also you can see the status of your drives with lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,SIZE,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL
[20:46] <Bashing-om> AnonyFox: Well, the USB drive is automounted when inserted , one can get that mount point from the terminal command ' mount ' then it is but terminal command ' cd /media/<username>/<USB-id> ' to list the contents at the highest level .
[20:48] <Druid> Hello, I've installed kde neon (ubuntu with kde) with encrypted /home. When I suspend it and try to enter password for session it doesnt work. This is probably because of lvm encryption. Any fix?
[20:48] <Seveas> looks like there was a scary spider on the keyboard...
[20:48] <AnonyFox> it says the usb is mounted
[20:48] <AnonyFox> But still cant find the folder xD
[20:49] <ducasse> Druid: kde neon is not ubuntu, so not supported here. look at their website for support forums.
[20:49] <ioria> AnonyFox,  can you paste 'mount'
[20:49] <AnonyFox> I think it's time for me to read a ubuntu/linux manual
[20:49] <AnonyFox> Instead of asking questions here 24/7
[20:49] <ioria> both
[20:49] <Seveas> Druid: 'encrypted home' isn't lvm encryption but ecryptfs
[20:50] <Druid> Seveas, I've done both
[20:50] <ioria> AnonyFox,   mount | pastebinit
[20:51] <AnonyFox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23427465/
[20:51] <Seven_Six_Two> where did the wizardpen driver go?
[20:51] <Seven_Six_Two> in xenial?
[20:51] <Seveas> Druid: given that neither encrypted lvm nor ecryptfs locks anything during suspend, this is a problem with kde neon. And as ducasse said, that's not supported here.
[20:51] <ioria> AnonyFox,   no usb mounted, i think
[20:51] <ioria> AnonyFox,   sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[20:51] <AnonyFox> Yeah i see that now
[20:52] <AnonyFox> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23427474/
[20:53] <Druid> Seveas, okay I'll ask on #kde-neon. thanks anyway :)
[20:53] <technocf> Hey, I'm finally going to say goodbye to Windows.  Regarding stability, for a desktop PC with daily use, would you recommend 16.04.1 or 16.10.  Is there really going to be much difference between the LTS and the other?
[20:54] <Seven_Six_Two> technocf, I'd recommend staying with the LTS.
[20:55] <ioria> AnonyFox,   your usb is sdb... you can mount  that with   sudo mount /dev/sdbX/   mountpoit;    mkdir ~/mountpoint and sudo mount /dev/sdbX  ~/mountpoint
[20:55] <technocf> Seven_Six_Two: I'll do that, although any particular reason?
[20:55] <Seveas> technocf: non-lts have 9 months of support, so you'll be upgrading more often. So you get newer versions of evereything, but it takes more work.
[20:56] <ioria> AnonyFox,   sdbX can be sdb1 or sdb2
[20:56] <Seven_Six_Two> because focus stops being new features and only gets bug and security fixes, so you'll have a better chance at a good experience without so much work.
[20:56] <technocf> Seveas: LTS are 2 years of support am I correct in saying?
[20:57] <AnonyFox> Mkmkdir: cannot create directory '/home/tommi/mountpoint': File exists
[20:57] <Seven_Six_Two> technocf, you can always upgrade from the lts to the next version if you need to, but you can't go back. you can never go back.
[20:57] <ioria> AnonyFox,   mkdir ~/mountpoint_2
[20:58] <technocf> Well, I don't really mind upgrading when the time comes.  The question really is whether or not I'll have issues with instability, well, I guess the software wouldn't be released if it were buggy.
[20:59] <Seven_Six_Two> there's always bugs. in everything. but LTS is about keeping everything stable.
[20:59] <elodinn> technocf: they don't always know about bugs until release
[20:59] <elodinn> I had some problems with non-LTS in terms of stability, but it was long (years) ago
[21:00] <technocf> Okay, well, thanks for the advice.  Have a good morning / afternoon / night :)
[21:00] <ioria> AnonyFox,   sudo mount  -t vfat  -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/sdb1 ~/mountpoint_2
[21:02] <plujon> Is there particular hardware on which Ubuntu is practically guaranteed to work on, say, for the next 5 years?  I would like to avoid problems such as being unable to login after applying a recent update"
[21:07] <Seveas> plujon: nothing is guaranteed in life.
[21:07] <Seven_Six_Two> plujon, stay away from nvidia drivers. maybe go with intel integrated
[21:07] <Seveas> technocf: LTS is 5 years
[21:07] <Seveas> though there's a new one ever 2
[21:08] <Seven_Six_Two> being unable to login after an update? Has that ever happened?
[21:08] <Seveas> plujon: I've been using Ubuntu on dell latitude laptops since 2006 with very few issues I didn't cause myself.
[21:08] <Seven_Six_Two> maybe X doesn't start, or I get a low res mode, but I've never not been able to login
[21:08] <Seveas> currently on an e7250
[21:08] <plujon> X doesn't start == unable to login for somebody such as my mom
[21:09] <Seven_Six_Two> there is no fail proof version of anything then
[21:09] <plujon> Her computer has nvidia hardware.
[21:09] <Seveas> mine has a dell optiplex, and I do the updates for her :)
[21:10] <Seven_Six_Two> they provide a binary blob, so even if someone wanted to, they couldn't guarantee it works
[21:10] <plujon> I don't well understand the driver scene on linux, especially with respect to nvidia.
[21:10] <kk4ewt> nvidia is better than AMD
[21:10] <Seven_Six_Two> but then again, nobody can guarantee that windows works. but I find linux more fixable, at the expense of a learning curve.
[21:10] <plujon> What are the most stable drivers for somebody using GeForce 6150SE nForce 430, and how does one ensure they are installed?
[21:11] <Seven_Six_Two> plujon, the driver manager will suggest the best one
[21:11] <kk4ewt> those # dont make sense
[21:11] <plujon> Seven_Six_Two: The driver manager?  Does that require X to be working?
[21:11] <dave_s> I ran sudo apt-get install upstart, created the file /etc/init/logianalytics.conf with the contents (http://pastebin.com/7xL7qyLg) (used the directions at http://blog.terminal.com/getting-started-with-upstart/), created a symlink at /etc/init.d/logianalytics and rebooted the server and now I get the error "Failed to start logianalytics.service: Unit logianalytics.service not found." when running sudo service logianalytics start
[21:12] <Seven_Six_Two> nvidia provides drivers without source code, so it's a black box.
[21:12] <shazzr> exit
[21:12] <Seven_Six_Two> plujon, probably not. Most things don't require a gui. there should be one, even without nvidia binary driver
[21:13] <Seven_Six_Two> shazzr, /part
[21:13] <kk4ewt> plujon,  lspci VGA|
[21:13] <shazzr> Seven_Six_Two: #typo
[21:13] <kk4ewt> plujon,  lspci VGA
[21:13] <nacc> dave_s: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[21:13] <Ntemis> hi
[21:13] <Ntemis> need some help coming from 14.04 and my system is a mess
[21:13] <dave_s> nacc: 1604
[21:14] <Ntemis> i dont want to re install just to fix sources
[21:14] <nacc> dave_s: why are you messing with upstart?
[21:14] <dave_s> nacc: 16.04**
[21:14] <Bashing-om> plujon: That card wilk soon be out of support : http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142/~/support-timeframes-for-unix-legacy-gpu-releases . 304 version driver per : http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html .
[21:14] <Bashing-om> will/wilk*
[21:14] <Ntemis> sudo apt-get install g++-multilib ends up E: Package 'g++-multilib' has no installation candidate
[21:14] <Ntemis> any help clear up my source.list
[21:14] <nacc> !Info g++-multilib trusty
[21:15] <dave_s> nacc: Because our amazing Vendor LogiAnalytics who charged us an arm and a leg for this software forgot to mention that they have ZERO docs for installing on Linux because "too many distros" and all they can do is keep linking StackOverflow articles.
[21:15] <Ntemis> am on xenial
[21:15] <nacc> !info g++-multilib xenial
[21:15] <nacc> Ntemis: how did you upgrade?
[21:15] <Ntemis> dist-something
[21:16] <nacc> dave_s: i'm not sure that installing upstart makes it the init-system on its own; by default it's systemd in 16.04
[21:16] <nacc> Ntemis: the recommended way is to use `do-release-upgrade`; i'm guessing your sources are a hodgepodge now
[21:16] <Ntemis> ah yes
 DanC: set prompt to normal in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[21:16] <DanC> thanks for the clue!
[21:16] <Ntemis> that one
[21:16] <Seveas> Ntemis: the proper upgrade procedure cleans your sources.list for you. But if you've added too many things manually, you probably also have a package mess to clean up first.
[21:16] <Ntemis> ok lets get started then
[21:17] <Ntemis> cant i just replace source.list with a vanilla one?
[21:17] <zark_> there is no root account with ubuntu ?
[21:17] <Seveas> Ntemis: depends on how far along you got in the upgrade.
[21:17] <Seveas> !root | zark_
[21:17] <Ntemis> all way to the end
[21:17] <zark_> thanks Seveas
[21:17] <Ntemis> am on xenial now
[21:18] <Seveas> Ntemis: then you wouldn't have a mess :)
[21:18] <Ntemis> but alas i do
[21:18] <nacc> Ntemis: if you were "on xenial" now, you wouldn't have gotten that error :)
[21:18] <Ntemis> but i am
[21:18] <Seveas> Ntemis: g+-multilib doesn't exist in xenial, so whatever is throwing that error you has an underlying issue.
[21:18] <dave_s> nacc: I'm at a loss then because they have no docs on how to run these two scripts as a service.
[21:18] <MonkeyDust> Ntemis  what's the output of     cat /etc/issue
[21:18] <Ntemis> Linux Athlon-M5A78L 4.4.0-45-generic #66-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 19 14:12:37 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:19] <nacc> Seveas: it absolutely exists in xenial
[21:19] <Ntemis> Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS \n \l
[21:19] <nacc> Ntemis: i understand your system *thinks* it is running xenial; that's not necessarily the same thing, given your output earlier
[21:19] <Ntemis> i see
[21:19] <nacc> Ntemis: can you pastebin your sources.list
[21:19] <Seveas> nacc: no, it does not.
[21:19] <Ntemis> how we fix it guys
[21:19] <Ntemis> yes i can
[21:19] <dave_s> nacc: from what I can tell it's an involved process in systemd and doing it with CRON @reboot does not work
[21:20] <nacc> Seveas: i don't know where you are looking, but rmadison clearly indicates it does.
[21:20] <nacc> Seveas: and ubottu also just found it...
[21:21] <Ntemis> nacc: is empy
[21:21] <Ntemis> nacc: is empty /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:21] <Ntemis> nothing there
[21:21] <nacc> Ntemis: check /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[21:21] <Seveas> nacc: puzzling. apt-cache doesn't find it for me :|
[21:21] <Ntemis> my /etc/apt/sources.list is empty
[21:22] <Seveas> nacc: smells like a bug in apt-cache. apt-cache search doesn't find it, but apt-cache show shows it!
[21:22] <nacc> Seveas: intersting; apt-cache is not an accurate way to check that as it relies on your local apt-cache, fwiw; but i see the same thing. `apt-cache show g++-multilib` shows it, though, probably a bug
[21:22] <nacc> Seveas: yeah :/
[21:23] <nacc> Seveas: use rmadison or our friendly ubottu to search in general
[21:23] <Seveas> koekblik:~$ apt-cache search g++-multilib
[21:23] <Seveas> koekblik:~$ apt-cache show g++-multilib | head -n1
[21:23] <Seveas> Package: g++-multilib
[21:23] <Seveas> I don't trust ubottu. I wrote him :)
[21:23] <Ntemis> nacc: these are in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ folder https://paste.ubuntu.com/23427599/
[21:23] <nacc> Seveas: heh
[21:23] <nacc> Seveas: well, rmadison then :)
[21:23] <Ntemis> now what?
[21:24] <knittell> good evening again
[21:24] <nacc> Ntemis: it makes no sense (afaik) for your sources.list to be empty. That would not result from any of the official upgrade paths. I unfortuantely need to get some work done, but someone can probably help you reconstruct that
[21:24] <Ntemis> nacc: note that i come from 10.04 ->12.04 ->14.04
[21:24] <nacc> Ntemis: all today?
[21:25] <nacc> Ntemis: or do you mean over the years
[21:25] <Ntemis> ofc not
[21:25] <Ntemis> yes over the years
[21:25] <Ntemis> :)
[21:25] <nacc> Ntemis: you would be surprised what we get here
[21:25] <Ntemis> i wont
[21:25] <Seveas> Ntemis: here's a vanilla one: https://gist.github.com/seveas/09139dc2ce7e46e37ca6647b193ac0c9
[21:25] <Ntemis> great thanks
[21:25] <Seveas> just take out the last two lines. didn't notice them before gisting
[21:26] <nacc> Seveas: i wonder if apt-cache is getting confused by the '+'
[21:26] <Seveas> nacc: that's what I'm guessing
[21:26] <nacc> Seveas: `apt-cache search g++` finds it; but `apt-cache search g++-` does not
[21:26] <Seveas> koekblik:~$ apt-cache search 'g\+\+-multilib'
[21:26] <Seveas> g++-multilib - GNU C++ compiler (multilib files)
[21:27] <nacc> yeah, unfortunate :/
[21:27] <Bashing-om> Ntemis: Following along .. I would find ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' a better reference .
[21:27] <Ntemis> ow after Seveas sources i have a lot of upgrades
[21:28] <Seveas> Ntemis: so you're not on xenial at all yet
[21:28] <Ntemis> looks like it
[21:28] <Ntemis> sec to post log
[21:28] <dr3gs> has anyone ever set up a local ubuntu repository mirror?
[21:29] <Seveas> have fun upgrading, and next time you do a release upgrade, use do-release-upgrade :)
[21:29] <Seveas> dr3gs: yes, people have.
[21:30] <Ntemis> Seveas: here https://paste.ubuntu.com/23427619/
[21:30] <dr3gs> Is it possible to host one without creating a new GPG key?
[21:30] <Ntemis> shall i do a dist-upgrade too?
[21:30] <blitzcreep> hello, how do i make a hostname known to the local network?
[21:31] <Ntemis> Seveas: ?
[21:31] <knittell> forgive me my stupid question, but what is dash?
[21:31] <blitzcreep> hostname is set in hosts and etc/hostname, but when i try to ping it from another com it tells me "unknown host..."
[21:31] <knittell> i'm reading the manual
[21:31] <dr3gs> blitzcreep: you need to create a DNS server or edit the hosts file on other computers to use it
[21:32] <Seveas> Ntemis: oh, that's not a lot of updates at all. Sounds like you're on xenial but missed the security updates. And yes, do dist-upgrade too.
[21:32] <dr3gs> otherwise the other computers don't know that it exists..
[21:32] <Ntemis> is doing a lot of work though
[21:32] <knittell> sorry i go to google it
[21:32] <Seveas> knittell: an alternative shell that's a lot more limited than bash but does implement what POSIX says a /bin/sh should.
[21:33] <knittell> adacadabra
[21:33] <knittell> for this stuff i'm like a baby
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> knittell  the bar on the left, see the upper icon, that's Dash
[21:33] <blitzcreep> dr3gs, i did that with the hosts files afaik
[21:33] <Seveas> knittell: so why do you want to know?
[21:33] <knittell> i have to start from ground
[21:33] <knittell> ok, thanks
[21:34] <Ntemis> yeah
[21:34] <Ntemis> now i can install g++-multilib
[21:34] <Ntemis> :D thanks guys
[21:34] <knittell> seveas i installed for several years computers but supplied them all with windows
[21:34] <dr3gs> blitzcreep: did you modify the hosts files on other PC's on your network?
[21:34] <knittell> now i have 2 computers installed with ubuntu , but i never worked with it
[21:35] <knittell> i simply want to learn it
[21:35] <knittell> but never used it, so no experience at all
[21:35] <dr3gs> best way to learn is to force yourself to start using it
[21:36] <Ntemis> ok lets see now
[21:36] <Defiance_> most questions are easily anwsered (especially with ubuntu) via a google search.
[21:37] <knittell> and thats what i'm doing n,ow
[21:38] <knittell> i dont use windows for yself anymore , but now i am on an ubuntu Mate system
[21:38] <knittell> and i continue with it
[21:38] <knittell> but i want some more knowledge then just only nets urfing and listen music :)
[21:38] <knittell> of course it will cost time, but i have
[21:38] <knittell> if i could find a list with the basic words like bash & dash and so on?
[21:38] <knittell> then i could go a little bit farther
[21:39] <knittell> ok defiance, i will use first google in the future and then come here
[21:39] <knittell> i keep the channel open but will not bother you persons with my craps
[21:39] <blitzcreep> dr3gs, i did it via ssh on the other comp, tried editing etc/hosts, etc/hostname, hostnamectl set-hostname ....
[21:40] <blitzcreep> if it would be winw00z i would say its bc firewall is up ...but here i dunno 0o
[21:41] <ikonia> it's called "windows"
[21:41] <ikonia> please show a little respect and use it's correct name
[21:41] <blitzcreep> can you say that in here ikonia :P
[21:41] <ikonia> yes, it's called "windows"
[21:41] <Bashing-om> !manual | knittell Have you seen :
[21:41] <blitzcreep> ^^
[21:42] <knittell> yes, i have that open now ubottu
[21:42] <knittell> why i came with the question what's dash? :)
[21:42] <knittell> i did not forget what is it anyway
[21:43] <knittell> i'm just by "welcome" atm
[21:43] <blitzcreep> dr3gs, can i pm you? :D
[21:43] <dr3gs> blitzcreep: sur
[21:43] <blitzcreep> thx
[21:45] <donttrustem> hi guys how do I fix this issue W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 2001:67c:1562::16 80]
[21:45] <ikonia> that host is unavailable
[21:45] <OerHeks> donttrustem, upgrade, lucid is EOl
[21:46] <donttrustem> I cannot upgrae until I update my mailserver ....
[21:46] <ikonia> change mirrrs
[21:46] <Bashing-om> donttrustem: Well lucid is releae 10.04 .. that is long out of support, and the repository no longer exist .
[21:46] <OerHeks> servers are down, etc, there is only the old-releases trick to upgrade
[21:46] <ikonia> or hit it a few times, it's round robin dns so should hit one of the other mirrors
[21:46] <donttrustem> I need to add 2 packages before I upgrade
[21:46] <ikonia> ahh yes, it's lucid as well
[21:46] <ikonia> good spot OerHeks
[21:46] <OerHeks> ow, we are short of old lucid mailserver zombienetworks
[21:47] <donttrustem> OerHeks: what is the trick please
[21:47] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[21:48] <OerHeks> see here how to edit your sources with old-release, and do the lts update to 12.04 > 14.04 or better fresh 16.04
[21:51] <knittell> strange thing if i click dash i cant type anything
[21:52] <knittell> i see what it supposed to be but i have something different
[21:52] <knittell> so, dont know what to do yet
[21:53] <OerHeks> knittell, what ubuntu version do you have installed
[21:57] <Ntemis> thanks guys system works great now
[21:57] <OerHeks> have fun Ntemis
[21:57] <Ntemis> ty
[22:11] <danielx> hi
[22:12] <FManTropyx> hello
[22:15] <tonygaga> So i got this strange problem: i recently was updating when the time change happened so it told me it took 2^32 days to complete, apart from being funny i couldn't poweroff my system anymore and i've no idea where it got stuck.. then i changed the time in the BIOS and it worked again. so i changed it back and it couldn't poweroff again... any idea what it could be?
[22:17] <tonygaga> i always checked when it was stuck what it already did. everything was successful apart from once there was mysqld which was in a 10min timeout
[22:17] <FManTropyx> are there accounting programs for Ubuntu?
[22:18] <Jsync> Ah, .ha.ha.ha.ha
[22:20] <nacc> FManTropyx: yes
[22:20] <nacc> FManTropyx: search the software center or `apt-cache search`
[22:23] <JFlash> hi, so I bought a thumb drive and created a bootable drive with a software called unetbootin
[22:23] <JFlash> but whatever I choose from my boot menu or bios boot order, it always boots back to existing ubuntu instalation, not from the drive
[22:24] <JFlash> what could be wrong?
[22:26] <Bashing-om> JFlash: Rgat pops to mind is a bad copy to the USB device OR grub not installed onto the device .
[22:26] <Bashing-om> What *
[22:26] <JFlash_> sorry I lost connection
[22:26] <JFlash_> please help
[22:26] <JFlash_> btw, both the port and the stick are usb 3.0
[22:27] <tonygaga> JFlash_: do you select a distro with unetbootin or do you select your own ISO image ?
[22:27] <Bashing-om> JFlash_: What pops to mind is a bad copy to the USB device OR grub not installed onto the device . Does it boot in another machine ?
[22:30] <JFlash_> select my own iso that I downloaded from the ubuntu studio website
[22:30] <JFlash_> tonygaga, that
[22:30] <JFlash_> Bashing-om, haven't tried..
[22:30] <tonygaga> JFlash_: have you tried on another machine?
[22:30] <tonygaga> oh
[22:30] <JFlash_> no I dont have another
[22:31] <tonygaga> another stick ?
[22:31] <JFlash_> nope, but  I can try another port or another disk maker
[22:31] <JFlash_> what really anoys me is that I cannot even tell which drive is what
[22:31] <tonygaga> usually the usb-disk-creater works just fine
[22:31] <JFlash_> because appearently evything is called samsung
[22:32] <tonygaga> unplug the others
[22:32] <JFlash_> i mean sandisk
[22:32] <tonygaga> do you have a working linux machine=?
[22:32] <JFlash_> there's "sandisk ultra" and another thing "sandisk <long number here>
[22:32] <JFlash_>  i have this one , it's the same one running ubuntu
[22:33] <tonygaga> then use usb-creator-gtk
[22:33] <JFlash_> basically what I'm trying to do is to run ubuntu-studio from the pendrive
[22:33] <JFlash_> ok then
[22:34] <JFlash_> how can I tell what is the name of my ssd drive from inside the bios?
[22:34] <JFlash_> it doest tell me sizes or anything
[22:34] <JFlash_> also both are sandisk
[22:34] <JFlash_> that's very depressing
[22:36] <JFlash_> will try again . ttygl
[22:37] <gde33> can screenshot be set to 1 monitor?
[22:38] <Bashing-om> JFlash_: One way to know the identification of the USB device . open terminal and ' tail -f /var/log/syslog ' plug in the usb drive see what is reported ,, unplug and again observe .
[22:40] <OerHeks> gde33, gnome-screenshot can
[22:41] <kg6hum> I'm running 14.04.4 LTS, and randomly after a reboot I cannot start an X session.  When I login, the screen flashes and I just get sent back to the lightdm login screen
[22:41] <gde33> OerHeks: I just install that and it will become the default? or is that the default already?
[22:41] <gde33> http://img.go-here.nl/Screenshot%20from%202016-11-04%2023-36-54.png
[22:42] <OerHeks> gde33, not sure, i installed it manually, and became standard iirc
[22:42] <technocf> I, stupidly, clicked "Add to Launcher" to a chrome window when Skype was open and now "Google Chrome" is called "Skype" in my Unity launcher and all Chrome windows are called Skype.  How to fix?
[22:42] <gde33> OerHeks: k ill try
[22:43] <FManTropyx> I went through Software once and didn't see any
[22:44] <OerHeks> !info gnome-screenshot
[22:44] <OerHeks> optional indeed.
[22:45] <Lewoco> How do I mute/unmute using command line on Xenial?
[22:45] <OerHeks> FManTropyx, most populair one is gnu-cash, lots of manuals to find too, simple to small-business
[22:48] <Lewoco> pactl set-sink-mute 0 toggle
[22:49] <george156200911> hello there! is there a log file aboout download errors of the software downloader ?
[22:50] <george156200911> *updater
[22:52] <OerHeks> george156200911, yes, in /var/log/apt/term.log
[22:54] <OerHeks> or /var/log/dpkg.log /var/log/dpkg1.log
[22:54] <george156200911> thnx
[22:54] <MonkeyDust> OerHeks  +1, didnt know that one
[22:56] <gde33> OerHeks: ohh shift prtscr gives a sexy cursor that allows selecting part of the screen
[22:56] <OerHeks> good find, forgot about all those shortcuts
[22:57] <JFlash> darn, I just tried ubuntu disk startup creator as suggested
[22:57] <JFlash> tested on the usb port
[22:57] <JFlash> i mean the usb2 port
[22:57] <JFlash> on both usb2 ports..  I just get a message "boot error"
[22:57] <JFlash> why, just why?
[22:57] <JFlash> I bought this drive just for this.. it was the best drive they had
[22:57] <hiwk> I want three-finger-tap on my touchpad to generate middle-click/paste, how can I achive this?
[22:58] <hiwk> the opposite of https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/4ac530/what_happened_to_the_threefingermiddleclick/
[22:58] <OerHeks> windows 10 on that machine? fastboot enabled? ( not secureboot, that is different)
[22:58] <OerHeks> JFlash ^^
[22:58] <hiwk> ubuntu 16.04
[22:58] <JFlash> i can get to the boot menu of the bios , no problem
[22:58] <JFlash> i can select where to boot from
[22:59] <JFlash> machine came with windows but now only has ubuntu on it
[23:00] <neo_> hello
[23:00] <hiwk> I have synclient TapButton3=2 ClickFinger3=2, but I thing some three finger gesture is intercepting the three-finger tap
[23:00] <JFlash> anything else that  I can try except for another computer?   (i only have this laptop)
[23:01] <neo_> Is it possible to transfer Ubuntu software packages from 16.04 to 16.10 on a new computer
[23:01] <neo_> Is it possible to transfer Ubuntu software packages from 16.04 to 16.10 on a new computer?
[23:01] <OerHeks> JFlash, so it is not your only machine, i did not see you leave here :-D
[23:01] <hiwk> neo_: what?
[23:01] <neo_> All I read about using dpkg --set-selections involves the same version.
[23:01] <neo_> I am trying to migrate my packages from 16.04 to 16.10 on a new computer i bought
[23:02] <Bashing-om> neo_: No, think version control .
[23:02] <hiwk> neo_: what do you mean by "migrate"?
[23:02] <OerHeks> neo_, if they are ubuntu packages, maybe a bad idea
[23:03] <neo_> yeah they binaries
[23:03] <neo_> packages
[23:03] <hiwk> neo_: why?
[23:03] <neo_> because I wanna transfer everything to my new computer
[23:03] <neo_> I dont have to installed all the packages
[23:03] <JFlash> OerHeks, are you calling me a lyar?
[23:03] <JFlash> OerHeks, I only have this machine
[23:04] <hiwk> neo_: I don't get it. Are you on a restricted data plan?
[23:04] <AJ_Z0> nvidia-367 with GeForce GTX 460 prevents boot - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2016-November/288110.html
[23:06] <neo_> Hello any answer
[23:08] <hiwk> neo_: unless you describe why you would want that, my suggestion is "don't, just install t he packages you want on the new pakages when you need them"
[23:09] <neo_> hiwk: you buy a new laptop and you wanna migrate all your old programs
[23:10] <hiwk> neo_: why?
[23:10] <neo_> hiwk: but your new latop you have Ubuntu 16.10 instead of 16.04 like your old one
[23:10] <hiwk> neo_: apt-get install the ones you want on the new computer
[23:10] <neo_> hiwk: because it is a long list of programs on your old computer you cant keep track of
[23:10] <hiwk> if you don't remember the old program, you probably don't need them
[23:11] <hiwk> just install whenever you try to start a program that isn't already installed
[23:11] <neo_> hiwk: yeah but there are also dependencies and libraries and what not
[23:11] <hiwk> apt-get install
[23:12] <neo_> hiwk: I just wish  I can have them all preloaded
[23:12] <hiwk> ok
[23:12] <OerHeks> this gives a list of metapackages you have installed >> apt-cache search . | grep -i "metapackage\|meta-package"
[23:13] <OerHeks> or go wild with your 16.04 packages with apt-clone or something
[23:14] <ch1s3l> #hackthevote
[23:16] <ikonia> ch1s3l: don't need that here please
[23:16] <JFlash> so guys
[23:17] <JFlash> since the bootable drive option does sseem it will work
[23:17] <JFlash> can  install ubuntu studio alongside current ubuntu, like in another partition
[23:17] <JFlash> where can I find a tutorial on how to do this?
[23:18] <JFlash> (hopefully it doent involve using a usb stick!)
[23:18] <Ben64> you can, i don't see the point though, you can do anything in ubuntu you can do in studio
[23:18] <JFlash> well but it comes preconfigured
[23:18] <JFlash> i'd have to install the low latency kernel and all that
[23:19] <JFlash> I'm a novice user, I need something that is already preconfigured :(
[23:19] <ikonia> why do you need both though
[23:20] <ikonia> why not just use ubuntu studio if thats what you want preconfigured
[23:20] <JFlash> well i just dont want to do away with my current setup. ubuntu studio is like something I will need for a few hours once per week
[23:20] <JFlash> my regular instalation I use evryday and it's very customised to my needs
[23:20] <ikonia> but you can do everything you do in ubuntu in ubuntu studio
[23:20] <JFlash> custom terminal custom fonts etc
[23:20] <ikonia> customized in what way
[23:21] <ikonia> you can transfer that across quite easy
[23:21] <JFlash> ok thanks for the input
[23:21] <JFlash> ttyl
[23:21] <hiwk> I want three-finger-tap on my touchpad to generate middle-click/paste, how can I achive this? I do not need any three-fingure gestures, it that gets in the way
[23:26] <MonkeyDust> hiwk  start here, an old post, 2011 ... maybe you find something usefull in it ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/84771/middle-click-with-a-three-finger-touchpad-tap-on-11-10-how-can-i-restore-this
[23:26] <lotus> Hey guys!
[23:27] <lotus> Help me :(  I broke my pc :(  I was so excited that I could boot 16.10 with my nvme drive that I was like, "Okay cool beans let's install"  --  it formatted my stuff, and then the install failed.
[23:27] <lotus> "Install error copying files to hard disk"
[23:27] <lotus> *sad face*
[23:27] <lotus> why?  how to fix?
[23:31] <younder> lotus: what model NVM-E drive?
[23:31] <lotus> Hmmmm
[23:31] <lotus> I... am not sure.
[23:32] <lotus> PCIe... lenovo p50... looking...
[23:32] <younder> lotus: do a  lshw -drive (if you can still access the command line)
[23:32] <lotus> In a live environment right not
[23:32] <lotus> now*
[23:33] <lotus> I get help text for that command
[23:34] <lotus>                 vendor: Samsung Electronics Co Ltd
[23:34] <lotus>                 version: 01
[23:34] <lotus> width 64bit clock 33mhz
[23:35] <younder> lotus: sorry  lshw -c disk
[23:35] <lotus> doesn't show the same device?
[23:35] <lotus> Hold on, let me get you a gist
[23:37] <lotus> http://www.heypasteit.com/clip/3373
[23:37] <lotus> younder: ^
[23:39] <hiwk> MonkeyDust: thanks, but didn't help ./
[23:40] <younder> lotus, have you read this? http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=128212
[23:44] <Guest74591> hello
[23:44] <Guest74591> Guys every time that i open the dash the configurations get reseted
[23:45] <Guest74591> I'm talking about search configuration such as: app, files & folds etc
[23:47] <lotus> younder: my wifi card is apparently unstable in the live environment
[23:47] <lotus> younder: did you see anything?  :(
[23:49] <lotus> ugh maybe I need to turn _on_ raid?
[23:49] <lotus> It's... worth a shot...
[23:50] <Bashing-om> lotus: Desktop install does not have the tools to deal with raid .
[23:50] <lotus> Bashing-om: can it deal with NVMe?
[23:50] <lotus> Bashing-om: because that's the only harddrive I have right now :(
[23:51] <Bashing-om> lotus: 16.10 I hear can deal with NVMe ... lemme see what i can find .
[23:51] <lotus> 16.10 atleast booted into the live environment
[23:51] <lotus> but the install fails copying the files
[23:51] <lotus> I occassionally lose wireless in this live environment
[23:51] <lotus> I'll reconnect within 15 minutes if I go away :(
[23:55] <nitero> hello.  i just got a new gpu, a gtx 1060.  however, when i try to boot into linux, i get an error on my tv that says "not supported".  windows works fine though.
[23:55] <nitero> i get the same error both on linux-mint 17 native installation, and linux-mint 18 usb live distro