[02:15] <flocculant> what's this then?
[02:16] <flocculant> some surprise that canonical try and care 2 times a year?
[02:16] <flocculant> I'd be surprised at 3 tries ... 
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[14:16] <flocculant> ochosi: seems to be icon missing from pavucontrol http://i.imgur.com/mS7VCTn.png
[15:59] <Unit193> Welp, zesty still doesn't like me.  Fun times.
[17:04] <Unit193> bluesabre: There?
[17:16] <bluesabre> Unit193, here
[17:16] <Unit193> Sweet.  How hard are we pushing GTK3 this cycle?
[17:18] <bluesabre> I'd recommend that plugins get pushed unless they depend on core xfce, and things in core are case-by-case depending on our perceived stability
[17:18] <bluesabre> so plugins and exo I'd agree to right now
[17:18] <bluesabre> xfce4-settings I would not
[17:18] <bluesabre> notifyd, probably
[17:19] <bluesabre> ochosi might also have good input here, being more upstream than myself lately
[17:19] <Unit193> Good, had hoped you wouldn't with -settings, -notifyd has already been in, going to push -appfinder now, etc.
[17:20] <bluesabre> sounds good to me
[17:20] <bluesabre> anything specific, feel free to make a judgment or ask if unsure
[17:20] <Unit193> Not sure how well the GTK3 taskmanager is, so holding off.  Been holding off on -terminal, but should just sync it.
[17:20] <bluesabre> I'll take the heat for anything I approve :D
[17:20] <Unit193> Well, tech lead, so figured it'd be good. :P
[17:20] <bluesabre> :)
[17:23] <Unit193> I'm ignoring any experimental goodies and plugins too.
[17:23] <bluesabre> Sounds reasonable to me
[17:24] <Unit193> Poke me if you want anything, as always. :D
[17:24] <bluesabre> Sure thing
[18:28] <Unit193> xfce4-datetime-plugin 0.7.0-1ubuntu1, xfce4-appfinder 4.12.0-2ubuntu2, xfce4-terminal 0.8.1-1, xfce4-diskperf-plugin 2.6.0-0ubuntu1, xfce4-mpc-plugin 0.5.0-0ubuntu1, xfce4-wavelan-plugin 0.6.0-0ubuntu1, xfce4-netload-plugin 1.3.0-0ubuntu1, xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin 0.5.0-0ubuntu1 uploaded/sync'd.
[20:17] <ochosi> flocculant: i think that's not our, but clementine's fault for not installing a 16px icon variant in /usr/share/icons/hicolor/*
[20:17] <Unit193> ochosi: Howdy.
[20:18] <ochosi> hey Unit193 
[20:18] <ochosi> regarding Gtk3, i think the panel won't be really ready
[20:18] <ochosi> that's my guess currently
[20:18] <Unit193> We're not pushing that yet either.
[20:18] <ochosi> taskman should be fine, but i can also look into that one again and drop gtk2 and do a release
[20:18] <ochosi> but it's not really a top prio atm
[20:19] <ochosi> for me at least
[20:19] <Unit193> That might be nice, didn't because not sure how good a shape it's in.
[20:19] <ochosi> well it's a pre gtk3.20 port, so i would presume there will at least be new deprecation warnings
[20:20] <Unit193> Yeeeeah.
[20:20] <ochosi> :)
[20:21] <ochosi> but maybe breakage too
[20:21] <ochosi> who knows
[20:21] <ochosi> with notifyd i'll do another release soonish
[20:21] <ochosi> and clipman too
[20:21] <ochosi> clipman should be fine after the first bugfix release
[20:21] <ochosi> aka 1.4.1
[20:22] <Unit193> Welp, it's already in. :D
[20:22] <Unit193> !info xfce4-clipman-plugin zesty
[20:22] <ochosi> it's not *that* bad ;)
[20:23] <ochosi> but the size of the menu is small if you put the panel at the bottom of the screen
[20:23] <ochosi> weirdly this only happens with a gtk2 panel
[20:23] <Unit193> I don't remember if I sync'd that or autosync.
[20:23] <Unit193> I've been busy today with packages.
[20:24] <ochosi> i'll review a patch that someone posted on bugzilla now
[20:27] <ochosi> if it fixes the problem i might look into one or two more bugs and then do the release
[20:48] <ochosi> humm, crap, so with the gtk3 panel it stil works :)
[20:49] <knome> wait, you want to release something that DOESN'T work?
[20:56] <ochosi> humm, release what?
[21:17] <knome> nvm :P
[21:34] <flocculant> ochosi: ok - thanks - wasn't sure what was up there :)
[21:35] <ochosi> in theory we can add an icon for it in elementary-xfce and fix it that way
[21:35] <ochosi> but this will only work with this one icon theme then
[21:35] <Unit193> Yeah we need to split those out too...
[21:35] <ochosi> i'd recommend reporting a bug against clementine
[21:35] <ochosi> k, so the most annoying 1.4.0 clipman bug is fixed in master now
[21:35] <ochosi> Unit193: in case you wanna pick up the patch early on ^
[21:36] <flocculant> ochosi: ok - I'd agree seems pointless us doing anything, not sure I'll bother reporting anything to upstream - done that in the past ... 
[21:36] <ochosi> oh ok
[21:37] <flocculant> as long as it's not a bug for us - which was why I mentioned it :)
[21:37] <Unit193> ochosi: We're in sync with Debian, no point pulling early.
[22:10] <ochosi> k, fixed the bugs i wanted for clipman
[22:10] <ochosi> hope i'll get to doing some releases (clipman, notifyd) soon
[22:15] <ochosi> night everyone
[22:15] <Unit193> G'nighty.