| daftykins | *the | 00:00 |
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| daftykins | Bashing-om: damn on that BIOS update :/ | 00:15 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: Well ! Still licking my wounds ,, considering how else I might do otherwise than I have done . Maybe just too old of hardware for the new age stuff . | 00:19 |
| Bashing-om | Now Bios chokes on checking memory - restarts on checking that 2nd back . gonna run mem-test all night, and see what results .. kernel sees all the ram ... hummm ... | 00:22 |
| nicomachus | ahhh I got it! | 00:24 |
| nicomachus | I had to use =CLEAN first to clean up the number formatting. | 00:24 |
| nicomachus | turns out reddit is actually helpful someties. | 00:25 |
| nicomachus | sometimes* | 00:25 |
| Bashing-om | nicomachus: :) If at 1st you do not succeed - go drink a cup of coffee and then google it . - there is nothing new under the sun . | 00:27 |
| daftykins | XD | 00:28 |
| daftykins | Bashing-om: mmm is that the POST screen memory tests going funny? | 00:28 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: yeah .. funny thing is that if I bypass the post .. boots just fine to grub ... still with no nouveau driver though when the OS starts to boot.. shucks . | 00:30 |
| daftykins | it's starting to sound more and more likely that nouveau simply does not cater well for the 710 variant | 00:31 |
| daftykins | i'd probably have reinstalled with the new BIOS on the SSD to see how it behaves as a sole disk, but that memory thing is definitely going to be more major | 00:32 |
| Bashing-om | Oh, I am pretty satidfied that is the case .. kernel hollers ! " kepler, unknown chip set " .. and just stalls . | 00:33 |
| daftykins | sadly one of those areas Linux continues to move at a glacial pace! | 00:35 |
| Bashing-om | And yes .. same same thought to see what the SSD looks like from a liveDVD of 16.04 .. and try a fresh clean install of a (x)ubuntu . Gonna wear the SSD out with re-installs .. be about the 6th time . | 00:37 |
| daftykins | haha, ah NAND can take a lot more punishing than that | 00:37 |
| Bashing-om | Not all bad IF I can get the system to behave with the SSD to re-install .. I much prefer a custom partition set up . But I am getting more practice than I want installing/setting up my apps in 16.04 :) | 00:41 |
| Bashing-om | AND I still like my 14.04 much much better than 16.04 ! | 00:41 |
| daftykins | mmm nothing to be gained out of 16.04 really | 00:41 |
| daftykins | i'd probably have it all scripted up if i used it like you guys do ;) clean installs i mean | 00:42 |
| Bashing-om | Well, we got to learn systemd - sooner or later , it is here to stay . | 00:42 |
| daftykins | what do you tend to do with /home on your SSD + HDD combo? | 00:42 |
| Bashing-om | separate /home .. separate /var . I have learned a thing or two about crashing the system .. good to have logging elsewhere than on the /root partition . | 00:44 |
| daftykins | mmm, though with an SSD setup i'd keep /home on it and just mount the mechanical into it i think | 00:46 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: What I do is symlink to my /data partitons on the spinners . - OR that is the plan . | 00:48 |
| daftykins | :D | 00:49 |
| Bashing-om | I had considered leaving /var on the spinners .. but not sure how much that would save in the long term for wear on the SSD .Anyway .. a few years I bet SSDs will be like memory is now .. cheap . | 00:50 |
| daftykins | now that's something i'm 100% behind | 00:51 |
| daftykins | i've yet to have an SSD die, such a long history of mechanicals dying though | 00:57 |
| nicomachus | and always the furthest possible point in time away from a backup. | 00:58 |
| daftykins | :D ah well i've used RAID for forever to be safer against that | 00:59 |
| daftykins | hmm client email'd earlier to say his trusty travelling Lenovo X240 has been causing trouble | 00:59 |
| daftykins | also warns of being sick though, so it's like "come and pick it up if you dare..." | 01:00 |
| Bashing-om | And my stanard response .. How ya like ubuntu ??.. wont take but 20 to set ya up . | 01:01 |
| daftykins | hahaha | 01:02 |
| daftykins | maybe for those that live out of a browser :> | 01:02 |
| daftykins | and have lucky hardware... | 01:02 |
| Bashing-om | New wine on old skin .. maybe a lesson learned at my own expense . But I have just begun to fight ! | 01:03 |
| nicomachus | daftykins: so you mean 75% of users? :P | 01:11 |
| daftykins | i doubt it's that high | 01:15 |
| daftykins | maybe on the browser bit, but i highly doubt it on the issues after install front due to hardware | 01:15 |
| OerHeks | de-facto, your tor is in econymode? | 04:04 |
| OerHeks | err economy | 04:04 |
| ducasse | hi all | 07:17 |
| daftykins | good morning o// | 07:21 |
| daftykins | oops i clapped by mistake | 07:21 |
| ducasse | did you see the pic of what i woke up to yesterday? | 07:31 |
| daftykins | nope! | 07:34 |
| ducasse | http://imgur.com/a/pZxRL | 07:34 |
| ducasse | now there's more :( | 07:35 |
| daftykins | :O | 07:36 |
| daftykins | http://i.imgur.com/vcgQIzE.jpg :D | 07:38 |
| ducasse | oh, and btw, that's kind of the light level we get now. a little brighter later in the day, but soon that will go too. | 07:38 |
| daftykins | oof | 07:38 |
| ducasse | haha, fantastic! :) | 07:39 |
| daftykins | are you quite far north, then? | 07:41 |
| ducasse | not that far, but in a couple of weeks the light level gets really low. mid-december it's just dark. | 07:43 |
| daftykins | i can tell my happiness takes a hit over here, can only imagine how much it'd suffer in that D: | 07:46 |
| daftykins | especially at the idea of shovelling snow ;) | 07:46 |
| ducasse | yeah, it's... not optimal :) | 07:47 |
| ducasse | btw, are you familiar with thinkpads? | 07:50 |
| daftykins | client has an issue with his X240 right now as it goes | 07:52 |
| daftykins | but nah, i don't have a broad knowledge of them | 07:52 |
| ducasse | i'm thinking of buying an older t420s as i vaguely ecall those often being recommended for linux... | 07:53 |
| daftykins | mmm no idea about that, i know someone who knows a lot about them but he doesn't use Linux | 07:54 |
| ducasse | nvm, i'll do some googling. i might also just buy some ram and stuff for my current laptop, but don't really want to spend money on it. | 07:55 |
| daftykins | how old is it? like which gen CPU? | 08:01 |
| ducasse | first gen i3 :( | 08:03 |
| ducasse | all i need it to run are an x server, i3, a lot of terminals and a browser. the browser thing is where more memory would be nice. | 08:05 |
| daftykins | :> | 08:07 |
| ducasse | how's the weather you're getting? seen any snow yet? | 08:13 |
| daftykins | nah we don't get any | 08:17 |
| daftykins | down to 7 deg C though so i've finally started using the heating! | 08:17 |
| daftykins | i've got 8GB RAM minimum in my machines now \o/ | 08:18 |
| daftykins | 32GB in that new deskie | 08:18 |
| ducasse | my desktop has 32gb, but this laptop has only 4. | 08:19 |
| daftykins | hrmm | 08:20 |
| daftykins | so why'd you browse from it? | 08:20 |
| daftykins | my file server used to have 4 :> | 08:20 |
| ducasse | my desktop is in another room, i use the laptop in the living room some of the time. | 08:22 |
| ducasse | the file server uses zfs, so it has 16gb. plenty for now, i don't use dedup. | 08:22 |
| daftykins | ooh the fashion | 08:23 |
| ducasse | fashion? | 08:23 |
| daftykins | of file systems :> | 08:24 |
| ducasse | if you're talking about zfs, it's pretty old. i used to work with solaris, so i learned it there. | 08:24 |
| ducasse | solaris was nice, sad sun is gone. | 08:25 |
| daftykins | not quite the sentiment | 08:26 |
| ducasse | you don't like? | 08:27 |
| daftykins | i just didn't mean its' age is all | 08:27 |
| ducasse | oh. i really like zfs, though, it's just so much nicer to work with than btrfs for instance. | 08:29 |
| ducasse | btw, you're a bike man - can you recommend some brands that have cheaper models? | 08:31 |
| daftykins | we only get about 3 brands over here XD small shops | 08:32 |
| daftykins | also only mountain bikes with me | 08:32 |
| daftykins | i have hardware RAID so the file system doesn't really matter, not considered changing | 08:33 |
| ducasse | it's mostly mountain bikes i'm interested in. i couldn't afford a nice controller, if/when i do i might reconsider. there are still nice things about zfs a raid controller can't give you. | 08:35 |
| daftykins | welp, when drama strikes i've always been nice and calm and happy with what's in front of me :> | 08:39 |
| daftykins | we mostly get Specialized bikes stocked in the local shop | 08:40 |
| ducasse | i'll need to look around, see what's available here at all. there's a specialist shop not too far from me that also has refurbished bikes. | 08:46 |
| daftykins | i do have a few minimums to look for, we were going to buy my dad a bike for his 60th - plan got delayed as he's ill right now though | 08:51 |
| daftykins | minimum is disc brakes for sure, as rim brakes are such a hassle | 08:52 |
| ducasse | that's a good tip, thanks. | 08:52 |
| daftykins | surely it can't be the season to buy with that snow out there? :D | 09:06 |
| ducasse | lower prices :) | 09:08 |
| daftykins | ah cunning | 09:09 |
| ducasse | there will soon be a lot of last year's stock they want to get rid of. | 09:10 |
| daftykins | mmm the old models going out | 09:10 |
| daftykins | my brother is such an idiot, at the suggestion of getting a "going-out" years model to save money he sniffed at the thought, i suggested that the wheel won't be radically reinvented just yet | 09:11 |
| ducasse | right, the model year means nothing to me. | 09:11 |
| ducasse | there are probably very few improvements that can be made to the wheel, unless something drastic changes. | 09:13 |
| daftykins | :D | 09:14 |
| ducasse | like pi suddenly equalling 5 :) | 09:14 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 13:04 |
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| tengelic | y | 20:39 |
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