[00:00] *the [00:15] Bashing-om: damn on that BIOS update :/ [00:19] daftykins: Well ! Still licking my wounds ,, considering how else I might do otherwise than I have done . Maybe just too old of hardware for the new age stuff . [00:22] Now Bios chokes on checking memory - restarts on checking that 2nd back . gonna run mem-test all night, and see what results .. kernel sees all the ram ... hummm ... [00:24] ahhh I got it! [00:24] I had to use =CLEAN first to clean up the number formatting. [00:25] turns out reddit is actually helpful someties. [00:25] sometimes* [00:27] nicomachus: :) If at 1st you do not succeed - go drink a cup of coffee and then google it . - there is nothing new under the sun . [00:28] XD [00:28] Bashing-om: mmm is that the POST screen memory tests going funny? [00:30] daftykins: yeah .. funny thing is that if I bypass the post .. boots just fine to grub ... still with no nouveau driver though when the OS starts to boot.. shucks . [00:31] it's starting to sound more and more likely that nouveau simply does not cater well for the 710 variant [00:32] i'd probably have reinstalled with the new BIOS on the SSD to see how it behaves as a sole disk, but that memory thing is definitely going to be more major [00:33] Oh, I am pretty satidfied that is the case .. kernel hollers ! " kepler, unknown chip set " .. and just stalls . [00:35] sadly one of those areas Linux continues to move at a glacial pace! [00:37] And yes .. same same thought to see what the SSD looks like from a liveDVD of 16.04 .. and try a fresh clean install of a (x)ubuntu . Gonna wear the SSD out with re-installs .. be about the 6th time . [00:37] haha, ah NAND can take a lot more punishing than that [00:41] Not all bad IF I can get the system to behave with the SSD to re-install .. I much prefer a custom partition set up . But I am getting more practice than I want installing/setting up my apps in 16.04 :) [00:41] AND I still like my 14.04 much much better than 16.04 ! [00:41] mmm nothing to be gained out of 16.04 really [00:42] i'd probably have it all scripted up if i used it like you guys do ;) clean installs i mean [00:42] Well, we got to learn systemd - sooner or later , it is here to stay . [00:42] what do you tend to do with /home on your SSD + HDD combo? [00:44] separate /home .. separate /var . I have learned a thing or two about crashing the system .. good to have logging elsewhere than on the /root partition . [00:46] mmm, though with an SSD setup i'd keep /home on it and just mount the mechanical into it i think [00:48] daftykins: What I do is symlink to my /data partitons on the spinners . - OR that is the plan . [00:49] :D [00:50] I had considered leaving /var on the spinners .. but not sure how much that would save in the long term for wear on the SSD .Anyway .. a few years I bet SSDs will be like memory is now .. cheap . [00:51] now that's something i'm 100% behind [00:57] i've yet to have an SSD die, such a long history of mechanicals dying though [00:58] and always the furthest possible point in time away from a backup. [00:59] :D ah well i've used RAID for forever to be safer against that [00:59] hmm client email'd earlier to say his trusty travelling Lenovo X240 has been causing trouble [01:00] also warns of being sick though, so it's like "come and pick it up if you dare..." [01:01] And my stanard response .. How ya like ubuntu ??.. wont take but 20 to set ya up . [01:02] hahaha [01:02] maybe for those that live out of a browser :> [01:02] and have lucky hardware... [01:03] New wine on old skin .. maybe a lesson learned at my own expense . But I have just begun to fight ! [01:11] daftykins: so you mean 75% of users? :P [01:15] i doubt it's that high [01:15] maybe on the browser bit, but i highly doubt it on the issues after install front due to hardware [04:04] de-facto, your tor is in econymode? [04:04] err economy [07:17] hi all [07:21] good morning o// [07:21] oops i clapped by mistake [07:31] did you see the pic of what i woke up to yesterday? [07:34] nope! [07:34] http://imgur.com/a/pZxRL [07:35] now there's more :( [07:36] :O [07:38] http://i.imgur.com/vcgQIzE.jpg :D [07:38] oh, and btw, that's kind of the light level we get now. a little brighter later in the day, but soon that will go too. [07:38] oof [07:39] haha, fantastic! :) [07:41] are you quite far north, then? [07:43] not that far, but in a couple of weeks the light level gets really low. mid-december it's just dark. [07:46] i can tell my happiness takes a hit over here, can only imagine how much it'd suffer in that D: [07:46] especially at the idea of shovelling snow ;) [07:47] yeah, it's... not optimal :) [07:50] btw, are you familiar with thinkpads? [07:52] client has an issue with his X240 right now as it goes [07:52] but nah, i don't have a broad knowledge of them [07:53] i'm thinking of buying an older t420s as i vaguely ecall those often being recommended for linux... [07:54] mmm no idea about that, i know someone who knows a lot about them but he doesn't use Linux [07:55] nvm, i'll do some googling. i might also just buy some ram and stuff for my current laptop, but don't really want to spend money on it. [08:01] how old is it? like which gen CPU? [08:03] first gen i3 :( [08:05] all i need it to run are an x server, i3, a lot of terminals and a browser. the browser thing is where more memory would be nice. [08:07] :> [08:13] how's the weather you're getting? seen any snow yet? [08:17] nah we don't get any [08:17] down to 7 deg C though so i've finally started using the heating! [08:18] i've got 8GB RAM minimum in my machines now \o/ [08:18] 32GB in that new deskie [08:19] my desktop has 32gb, but this laptop has only 4. [08:20] hrmm [08:20] so why'd you browse from it? [08:20] my file server used to have 4 :> [08:22] my desktop is in another room, i use the laptop in the living room some of the time. [08:22] the file server uses zfs, so it has 16gb. plenty for now, i don't use dedup. [08:23] ooh the fashion [08:23] fashion? [08:24] of file systems :> [08:24] if you're talking about zfs, it's pretty old. i used to work with solaris, so i learned it there. [08:25] solaris was nice, sad sun is gone. [08:26] not quite the sentiment [08:27] you don't like? [08:27] i just didn't mean its' age is all [08:29] oh. i really like zfs, though, it's just so much nicer to work with than btrfs for instance. [08:31] btw, you're a bike man - can you recommend some brands that have cheaper models? [08:32] we only get about 3 brands over here XD small shops [08:32] also only mountain bikes with me [08:33] i have hardware RAID so the file system doesn't really matter, not considered changing [08:35] it's mostly mountain bikes i'm interested in. i couldn't afford a nice controller, if/when i do i might reconsider. there are still nice things about zfs a raid controller can't give you. [08:39] welp, when drama strikes i've always been nice and calm and happy with what's in front of me :> [08:40] we mostly get Specialized bikes stocked in the local shop [08:46] i'll need to look around, see what's available here at all. there's a specialist shop not too far from me that also has refurbished bikes. [08:51] i do have a few minimums to look for, we were going to buy my dad a bike for his 60th - plan got delayed as he's ill right now though [08:52] minimum is disc brakes for sure, as rim brakes are such a hassle [08:52] that's a good tip, thanks. [09:06] surely it can't be the season to buy with that snow out there? :D [09:08] lower prices :) [09:09] ah cunning [09:10] there will soon be a lot of last year's stock they want to get rid of. [09:10] mmm the old models going out [09:11] my brother is such an idiot, at the suggestion of getting a "going-out" years model to save money he sniffed at the thought, i suggested that the wheel won't be radically reinvented just yet [09:11] right, the model year means nothing to me. [09:13] there are probably very few improvements that can be made to the wheel, unless something drastic changes. 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