[00:00] <AnonyFox> Learn by looking
[00:00] <havoc_hive> hello world
[00:00] <Rarrikins> AnonyFox: You want the source code?
[00:00] <bekks> AnonyFox: then you should install the source packages instead.
[00:00] <AnonyFox> Where can i find the source code for it ? XD
[00:01] <bekks> AnonyFox: you need to install it :)
[00:01] <AnonyFox> I guess i just google it
[00:01] <bekks> AnonyFox: Or you just use apt-get source packagename
[00:01] <lucas-arg> guys cant reboot nor shutdown my laptop after using prime-select
[00:01] <OerHeks> unity itself is hardcoded.
[00:01] <AnonyFox> ohh yeah i can do that aswell
[00:02] <Lostfile> hello
[00:02] <lucas-arg> any help?
[00:02] <AnonyFox> Bekks when i download the source where will it be downloaded ?
[00:02] <lucas-arg> any one got this problem too?
[00:03] <bekks> AnonyFox: Into the current working directory.
[00:03] <AnonyFox> ok thanks :D
[00:03] <Lostfile> what are you trying to download and complie
[00:05] <AnonyFox> "Unable to find a source package for unity "
[00:05] <Lostfile> dose any one here know how to request for your address to be cloked on freendoe
[00:05] <bekks> AnonyFox: you need to enable the source package repos before.
[00:06] <Lostfile> freenode i mean
[00:06] <bekks> Lostfile: Just ask for a cloak in #freenode after registering and identifying to your nickname.
[00:06] <AnonyFox> Bekks: Actually i have nooo idea how to do it
[00:06] <Lostfile> i did that
[00:07] <bekks> AnonyFox: Like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[00:07] <Lostfile> ok i will ask
[00:07] <momomo> i am trying to play a 1080p movie on my computer in vlc and mediaplyaer and on both it is hackish
[00:08] <momomo> does this happen for everyone? for me it happens on unity, xfce, cinnamon, gnome3, mate and s oon
[00:08] <momomo> is tehre a way to resolve this?
[00:08] <hexvb> is it a porno?
[00:08] <momomo> yes, i like hd porn
[00:08] <AnonyFox> I take a look at that link thanks so much bekks :P
[00:08] <hexvb> me too
[00:08] <momomo> lol
[00:09] <Lostfile> i asked and they said no
[00:09] <Lostfile> oh well
[00:09] <momomo> i have a good graphics card and cpu on computer is not pushed
[00:09] <momomo> so what the fuck is the problem .. i found a thread saying this doesnt happen on kde
[00:09] <bekks> Lostfile: No. They told you that a cloak does not hide an IP, which is correct.
[00:10] <Lostfile> yesz
[00:10] <OerHeks> momomo, please keep your language family friendly, thanks.
[00:11] <donkeytail> Hey does anyone know the best or a really good irc chat cleint for android phones???
[00:11] <OerHeks> donkeytail, wrong channel, try #android ?
[00:11] <Lostfile> i use kvirc but thats not an android client
[00:12] <donkeytail> have to register there im on relay cant you people just say yes or no jeez
[00:12] <fn2> Atomic (irc client on fdroid) donkeytail.
[00:13] <JohnnyMonday> true
[00:14] <momomo> OerHeks: why, its the internet god damn it .. we are supposed to xyz ... seriously, everyone is always on that issue ... fcuk ... anyone really thinks theere are any kids in here?
[00:14] <Lostfile> man this channel is getting spammed with join messages and leave messages
[00:14] <momomo> kids in here that dont know how to visit pornsites.com ?
[00:14] <Lostfile> stop it momomo
[00:15] <hexvb> I visited porn sites when I was a kid
[00:15] <Lostfile> so did i
[00:15] <hexvb> :O)
[00:16] <Loshki> #ubuntu-offtopic guys. It's where you go...
[00:16] <JohnnyMonday> false
[00:18] <promet> Does anyone know, is playing video in a reduced, smallish, window, less resource intensive than playing it full screen, or does the "background" cost (coding/decoding) remain "high" regardless?
[00:19] <nbastin> promet: it depends, but if the input data is identical at least the vast majority of the "work" is the same, although you'll save some GPU/video display work
[00:19] <momomo> hexvb: that's my point, but we are not allowed to use curse words to express our frustration because in the usa we get a beep watching it on tv ... it's the internet ... in sweden you can watch penises and vaginas on tv in mcdonalds on some random sex show ... i am not saying that's right, but come on fcuk is in the global dictionary ..
[00:19] <Lostfile> ahh forget it
[00:19] <promet> nbastin, thanks very much!
[00:19] <Loshki> Lostfile: your client will have a setting to hide join/quit messages. You will need it for any larger channel.
[00:20] <Lostfile> cant dcc chat with any one these days and ok
[00:21] <Loshki> Lostfile: the usual etiquette is to request a pm first
[00:21] <Lostfile> hi
[00:21] <Lostfile> oh
[00:22] <donkeytail> OerHeks hey can you help im on a realy borrowing a buddies computer can you tell me a good irc chat client for android os on a phone so i can get back on and talk linux/ubuntu tio you fine folks #android makes you register and no on answers me in unregistered...pleasee...
[00:22] <OerHeks> donkeytail, no
[00:22] <donkeytail> ok just asking
[00:23] <eelstrebor> i don't know if my problem is ubuntu, a driver or a hardware issue - i have one of these asus rog laptops where the line in jack doesn't work - it doesn't even show up in the sound settings
[00:23] <bitan> Hi, is there any way to check system file integrity of installed linux like we do in wisdows os ...sfc/scan now
[00:23] <bitan> ?
[00:24] <OerHeks> !fsck
[00:24] <Rarrikins> bitan: Not really.
[00:24] <bitan> ok ..thnx
[00:25] <blackflow> bitan: system file integrity?
[00:25] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting
[00:26] <Rarrikins> It's not filesystem checking.
[00:26] <bitan> like if anything damaged in installed os
[00:26] <Rarrikins> It's checking whether system files have changed.
[00:26] <blackflow> bitan: corrupt files and such?
[00:26] <bitan> yes
[00:26] <blackflow> bitan: yes, you can run something like AIDE
[00:26] <tomreyn> or debsums
[00:26] <blackflow> or debsums yes
[00:26] <OerHeks> s.m.a.r.t. hdd health is integrated with disks utility
[00:26] <bitan> corrupted file checking ..or all the update went successful or not
[00:27] <Lewoco_> I'm considering mounting my home directory directory on multiple machines using NFS (or similar). Does this work well or will most programs fail if their non-volatile state is being modified by multiple instances running on different machines?
[00:28] <nbastin> Lewoco_: if your filesystem does not support appropriate locks, you will find out quickly how easy it is to corrupt files
[00:29] <nbastin> Lewoco_: NFS v2 and v3 need NLM for locks (although it still sucks), NFS v4 is generally better, but your clients all h ave to support it
[00:29] <bitan> actually yesterday my sister shut down laptop while it was updating ...I dont know it was successful or not as I was away from laptop for few time
[00:30] <Loshki> donkeytail: start working your way through the free ones. Some once mentioned quasseldroid. I don't use it myself.
[00:30] <th0r> Lewoco, I put my home on a usb drive so I can move it to another machine
[00:30] <Rarrikins> bitan: First finish the updating.
[00:30] <faekjarz> Hey there! Which tool converts 3gp to gif? The easy-peasy approach please …like that: cat meow.3gp | magictool > pawsome.gif
[00:30] <bitan> hmm..sext time I updated maching and was showing no update available
[00:31] <Lewoco_> th0r: USB is too slow. Besides I want to be able to log in to multiple machines at the same time.
[00:31] <tomreyn> bitan: if it did not succeed then "sudo apt-get -f install" will often fix it.
[00:31] <bitan> ok
[00:31] <bitan> i will try that
[00:31] <bitan> thnx man
[00:31] <Rarrikins> bitan: Try `sudo debsums --changed` once that's done. It'll tell you of any files that have changed from what they originally were.
[00:34] <bitan> ok
[00:35] <AndChat563604> can anyone see this?
[00:35] <JohnnyMonday> Thank you, Alex!
[00:35] <th0r> AndChat563604, no
[00:36] <AndChat563604> tyvm th0r trying to discern whether i was connected or not
[00:36] <JohnnyMonday> False
[00:36] <JohnnyMonday> Early 1900s: true
[00:39] <deejayicy> trying to instal virtual dj 8 on ubuntu
[00:40] <deejayicy> it installs but plays bad
[00:40] <deejayicy> help?
[00:44] <OerHeks> deejayicy, i see no linux version other than windows+mac, did you install it in wine?
[00:45] <JohnnyMonday> Stuffed
[00:45] <JohnnyMonday> operating system
[00:47] <JohnnyMonday> gloves
[00:47] <OerHeks> JohnnyMonday, don't drink & sudo
[00:48] <deejayicy> yes
[00:53] <dougl> what is the best way to get good ole fashion ubuntu with gnome?
[00:53] <sabrehagen> sometimes when i press ctrl+r at the terminal, my recursive find doesn't work, the cursor just flashes once. what causes this?
[00:54] <Bashing-om> dougl: http://ubuntugnome.org/download/ ??
[01:02] <JFlash> hi, I get an error when trying to run something called "jack" or "jack server"
[01:02] <pacovc> is there a good web browser for watching sports in ubuntu other than firefox?
[01:02] <JFlash> http://hastebin.com/wujuhayuni.txt
[01:03] <Rarrikins> pacovc: Chrome
[01:03] <pacovc> nice thanks
[01:04] <Rarrikins> pacovc: Make sure to get Chrome, though, not Chromium.
[01:04] <pacovc> i understand. do you know if that works with espn?/
[01:04] <pacovc> firefox doees not work well with espn
[01:05] <Rarrikins> pacovc: Yes, it works for me.
[01:06] <pacovc> nice thanks
[01:06] <blackflow> Rarrikins: why not chromium?
[01:06] <pacovc> im curious would chromium not work?
[01:07] <Rarrikins> I think Chromium lacks things like the Widevine plugin and the latest version of Flash.
[01:07] <johnathon> Hello
[01:08] <blackflow> pepperflash can be installed separately even for chromium. as for widevine, yeah... could be missing.
[01:09] <pacovc> thanks
[01:13] <faekjarz> (for the record; this channel ignored me, once again, but #ubuntu-de provided a solution, once again. Here's what they came up with: (creating animated gif) http://superuser.com/a/556031)
[01:17] <SerialDev> why even bother with chromium when you could just simply install chrome?  why make it all more complicated than it has to be?
[01:44] <Amal> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu in uefi mode along side windows 8. But after installing ubuntu grubx64.efi file is not creating, and it always loading to Windows.
[01:46] <Amal> I checked in EFI  partition. But there is only Windows files, I didn't find anything for ubuntu
[01:47] <Amal> Is anyone there to help me?
[01:48] <Rarrikins> Amal: That's something that a lot of people haven't dealt with, so it might take a while for help.
[01:49] <Amal> Okay. Rarrikins. I will wait for answer
[01:50] <danfun64> I just upgraded Xubuntu 64-bit from 16.04 to 16.10 recently, and when I compile software, Thunar sees it as a "Shared Library" rather than a Binary. I found a similar issue on the forums, but nobody replied to it: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2341593&p=13566417#post13566417
[01:50] <danfun64> except for me
[01:50] <danfun64> to say that i had the issue as well
[01:51] <Rarrikins> danfun64: Does it work when you run it from the terminal?
[01:51] <Rarrikins> danfun64: Never mind, I see that you said it worked.
[01:55] <danfun64> No advice?
[01:59] <danfun64> Since I like compiling software myself, this is a major issue to me
[01:59] <Rarrikins> danfun64: I get the same thing.
[01:59] <danfun64> ah
[02:01] <Rarrikins> danfun64: Let me see if it's GCC or Thunar that changed.
[02:02] <danfun64> I think it's GCC, since Nautilus was mentioned by a different poster
[02:07] <Rarrikins> danfun64: Yeah, it shows up as Shared library on Thunar on Xubuntu 16.04.
[02:10] <danfun64> I didn't have that issue in Xubuntu 16.04
[02:10] <danfun64> it began after i upgraded
[02:11] <Rarrikins> No, I mean GCC_compiled program on Xubuntu 16.10 then copied to Xubuntu 16.04 system.
[02:11] <Rarrikins> Even `file` says it's a shared object.
[02:11] <jerry> niba
[02:12] <danfun64> ah
[02:12] <danfun64> so the problem is with GCC
[02:13] <Rarrikins> danfun64: Bug report has been made a while back: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1635706
[02:13] <danfun64> ...and it's invalid...why?
[02:14] <danfun64> They are apparently leaving it deliberately unfixed?
[02:14] <danfun64> Not even giving workarounds?
[02:14] <Rarrikins> danfun64: No, the person who reported it is wrong. They closed it.
[02:15] <Rarrikins> danfun64: Time to report it again.
[02:15] <danfun64> Oh
[02:15] <bpkemet> exit
[02:15] <danfun64> but won't it be marked as a duplicate?
[02:16] <danfun64> And who should report it? Me or you? If me, what should I say?
[02:17] <Rarrikins> I'll report it.
[02:17] <danfun64> TY. Even if that earlier report was wrong, it seems more detailed than anything I could say
[02:34] <twenty-three> hello, I am trying to use a command in an application that requires a second application to be installed. the latter is installed but not in the expected folder. the help on their page suggests setting an environment variable in this situation. however, i am not sure how to do this. I am not sure i understand the concept of environment variables as it seems to be a very broad term
[02:35] <twenty-three> the page suggests "setenv DSSP /opt/dssp/bindssp" and i tried this but it claims "setenv" as command not found
[02:36] <twenty-three> what can i do?
[02:36] <twenty-three> i am running ubuntu 14.04, by the way
[02:37] <ObrienDave> whyyyyyy?
[02:37] <twenty-three> why what?
[02:37] <ObrienDave> why 14.04?
[02:38] <twenty-three> i only use it for work-rlated things and i haven't found the time at work to update to the next LTS
[02:38] <twenty-three> that is why
[02:38] <danfun64> Any progress Rarrikins, or should I wait a while?
[02:41] <gainz> Hello, are there any AMD driver better than the generic ones that come with 16.04?
[02:42] <gainz> AMDpro does not work in 16.04 correct?
[02:43] <tgm4883> gainz: I've heard that it works, but I couldn't get it to work
[02:44] <tgm4883> gainz: and by amdpro, I assume you mean amdgpu-pro?
[02:44] <gainz> tgm4883: right, i got an error when i tried to install
[02:44] <gainz> tgm4883: yes that is the one
[02:44] <tgm4883> gainz: i ended up just going to 16.10
[02:44] <gainz> tgm4883: did amdgpu-pro work on that one?
[02:45] <tgm4883> gainz: I'm running it now
[02:45] <gainz> tgm4883: what video card to u have i have r9 270
[02:45] <tgm4883> gainz: rx 480
[02:45] <net-filter-32> so, is south bend closer to cleveland or chicago?
[02:46] <gainz> tgm4883: have u benchmarked it before and after?
[02:46] <net-filter-32> oops, wrong group post
[02:46] <tgm4883> gainz: you mean 16.04 vs 16.10?
[02:47] <gainz> tgm4883: before you put the amdgpu-pro driver in
[02:47] <tgm4883> gainz: no
[02:47] <gainz> tgm4883: was there a reason y u wanted to put the driver in vs the generic 1?
[02:48] <tgm4883> gainz: I was having performance issues in some games, but it's possible that is just the state of amdgpu/amdgpu-pro currently
[02:48] <tgm4883> IMO, we probably need another 6 months of work done
[02:49] <gainz> tgm4883: im only getting 16 FPS and im wondering if its the generic drivers or the card just sucks
[02:49] <gainz> tgm4883: i know its not the best card i used it for mining
[02:50] <killit2> does lsb_release -a accuratly show "subversions"  for instance, if I have 14.04.4, will it actually say that - or just 14.04?
[02:51] <gainz> tgm4883: so the amdgpu-pro works in 16.10?
[02:51] <tgm4883> gainz: yea
[02:51] <NAstyJAck> anyone here?
[02:51] <gainz> tgm4883: guide on youtube or just normal installation?
[02:51] <tgm4883> gainz: I'm running amdgpu-pro and a mesa PPA
[02:52] <NAstyJAck> guess there is lol
[02:52] <NAstyJAck> anyone here want to help me out with a problem im having?
[02:52] <tgm4883> gainz: I think I just followed the instructions on the amd page. I might have had to make a small tweak to it
[02:52] <gainz> tgm4883: Thanks for the help i guess ill try 16.10
[02:53] <NAstyJAck> i can't download things from the Software App. It says to sign in with a Single Sign in name, and i sign up for it. but then everytime i try to download something it says that my password or email is wrong.
[02:54] <NAstyJAck> i know it is not
[02:54] <NAstyJAck> any help would be great
[02:54] <gainz> NAstyJack: you try apt-get?
[02:54] <twenty-three> nevermind, i found my answer. thank you guys
[02:56] <NAstyJAck> thought the termnal?
[02:56] <gainz> NAstyJack: yup
[02:58] <cash> Hi Everyone
[02:58] <SchrodingersScat> hello
[02:58] <gainz> yo
[02:58] <cash> Today I learned how to recover from an update induced nvidia login loop
[02:59] <Caluser2000> Good for you.
[02:59] <cash> but i still have one problem that i am terrified of because idk what it is....
[02:59] <SchrodingersScat> you don't know what the problem is?
[03:00] <cash> If using Nouveau on my machine, if i sleep the computer, sometimes upon resume everything is frozen.  I hard reboot the machine and it will only boot to a blinking cursor.
[03:00] <cash> even recovery mode boots to a blinking cursor
[03:00] <NAstyJAck> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package vuse
[03:00] <NAstyJAck> thats what i keep getting now... in the teminal
[03:01] <SchrodingersScat> !info vuse | NAstyJAck I also don't see this in my repos, what are you trying to do?
[03:02] <cash> guys any idea what causes a blinking cursor?
[03:03] <NAstyJAck> just trying to install vuse
[03:03] <kicksled> NAstyJAck: like in the torrentclient vuze ?
[03:03] <NAstyJAck> but the sign in stuff on the Software app is not working.
[03:03] <NAstyJAck> yes
[03:03] <NAstyJAck> or any other torrent client would be fine
[03:03] <maddawg2> eew dont use vuze
[03:03] <maddawg2> deluge or rutorrent
[03:04] <gainz> i like qbittorent
[03:04] <maddawg2> or transmission is built in
[03:04] <maddawg2> (i think)
[03:04] <NAstyJAck> ill see if any of those will download
[03:04] <maddawg2> transmission is built into ubuntu
[03:04] <SchrodingersScat> apt-cache search vuze brings up qbittorrent, so maybe that's what you want, but transmission-gui is in default, transmission-cli is good if you need just a quick download, etc.
[03:04] <gainz> yes transmission can wit 16.04
[03:04] <maddawg2> are you using ubuntu server or desktop?
[03:05] <NAstyJAck> desktop
[03:05] <SchrodingersScat> hopefully desktop if he was using software center and trying to get vuze :)
[03:05] <maddawg2> yea transmission is already installed
[03:05] <NAstyJAck> have not used it in a long time
[03:05] <NAstyJAck> came back tonight
[03:05] <maddawg2> i use deluge personally tho
[03:05] <NAstyJAck> and Deluge is installing right now.
[03:05] <maddawg2> but thats cuz i automate my downloads
[03:05] <NAstyJAck> automate new movies or something?
[03:06] <maddawg2> yea and tv shows
[03:06] <NAstyJAck> nice. ima have to figure that out
[03:06] <gainz> y not just use kodi?
[03:06] <SchrodingersScat> !piracy
[03:06] <maddawg2> kodi doesnt download movies
[03:06] <NAstyJAck> i used kodi on my phone and windows pc, but i didnt know if it worked on here
[03:06] <maddawg2> there are no piracy laws where i am
[03:06] <SchrodingersScat> kodi works on just about everything
[03:07] <maddawg2> lol
[03:07] <NAstyJAck> bahahaha maddawg2
[03:15] <NAstyJAck> hey maddawg, how do you set up auto downloads?
[03:17] <someuser0832> time
[03:18] <jenenliu> Hi guys, how can I set up l2tp VPN on Ubuntu. Seems there is just pptp on network manager
[03:19] <AbsoluteTruth> you must have a special gift to have been invited to the top secret #**# channel
[03:19] <maddawg2> jenenliu, you'll probably have to install it
[03:20] <maddawg2> you can add stuff to the gnome network manager
[03:21] <maddawg2> jenenliu, https://launchpad.net/~seriy-pr/+archive/ubuntu/network-manager-l2tp
[03:21] <danfun64> I hope I'm not pestering you Rarrikins...but is there any news?
[03:21] <ingive> Hi I am having trouble booting with my latest kernel, there is no unlock disk screen. Only _ and any input I type just stays there.
[03:22] <jenenliu> maddawg2: thanks, do you use
[03:22] <maddawg2> no
[03:22] <maddawg2> i use openvpn
[03:22] <ingive> How do I get back the unlock disk action?
[03:23] <Rarrikins> danfun64: I submitted a bug report (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-defaults/+bug/1639531).
[03:23] <jenenliu> Does openvpn support l2tp?
[03:25] <maddawg2> jenenliu, no openvpn is it's own protocol
[03:25] <danfun64> Thank you
[03:25] <danfun64> I bid you all good night
[03:25] <maddawg2> it's different from l2tp
[03:25] <maddawg2> what are you using L2TP for?
[03:26] <jenenliu> Just for using Google and YouTube
[03:26] <maddawg2> ?
[03:26] <killit2> when using apt-get upgrade, will this update the "subversion"?  For instance, will it upgrade 14.04.04 to 14.04.05?  If so, is there a way to prevent this - give me all the updates than can be had without rolling up to the new subversion?
[03:26] <jenenliu> Yep.
[03:26] <maddawg2> what?
[03:26] <maddawg2> that doesnt make sense
[03:26] <maddawg2> confused
[03:27] <maddawg2> it's a VPN protocol
[03:27] <Rarrikins> !hwe | killit2
[03:27] <maddawg2> why do you need a vpn to use google and youtube
[03:27] <Rarrikins> killit2: I think you have to explicitly update to them.
[03:27] <maddawg2> i think you must be confused with what a vpn is lol
[03:27] <maddawg2> i'm guessing you're paying for a vpn provider
[03:28] <SchrodingersScat> I thought dist-upgrade moved to those?
[03:28] <jenenliu> Yep, some countries need VPN to access Google
[03:28] <maddawg2> and you connect to them in order to "anonymize" your web surfing...
[03:28] <maddawg2> i gotcha.. so you're using a vpn provider
[03:28] <maddawg2> well depending on provider openvpn is more secure
[03:28] <maddawg2> and has more features  than L2TP
[03:29] <jenenliu> Yep, and they just support pptp and l2tp
[03:29] <jenenliu> But seems I can't set up l2tp now
[03:29] <maddawg2> https://www.deepdotweb.com/2015/09/29/l2tp-vs-openvpn-the-ultimate-battle/
[03:30] <maddawg2> who is your vpn provider jenenliu ?
[03:30] <killit2> just wanted to make sure - I was pretty sure, but figured it was better to spend two minutes asking then assume
[03:30] <jenenliu> I have to check my Gmail
[03:31] <maddawg2> jenenliu, i'd recommend a vpn that actually supports openvpn over L2TP alot of countries are using DPI to detect vpn traffic and block it
[03:31] <maddawg2> OpenVPN has an option for obfsproxy
[03:31] <maddawg2> that obfuscates the fact you're using a vpn at all so people cant tell
[03:32] <maddawg2> but most providers only support that when using openvpn protocol..   check out iVPN
[03:32] <maddawg2> (it's china proof too)
[03:32] <jenenliu> You mean openvpn is better?
[03:32] <maddawg2> in some ways
[03:32] <maddawg2> it's more secure for sure
[03:32] <maddawg2> but again it's all about the carrier really
[03:33] <maddawg2> also most carriers that have port forwarding (which is helpful in alot of cases) only support it with OpenVPN
[03:33] <maddawg2> there are more features in what can be done with OpenVPN
[03:34] <jenenliu> Do you use ivpn?
[03:34] <maddawg2> yes
[03:34] <maddawg2> i love it
[03:34] <jenenliu> How much per month
[03:34] <maddawg2> not sure...
[03:35] <maddawg2> i'm kinda rich so i dont pay attention to costs
[03:35] <asarch> I just, by miskate, rm /dev/sdb as root, how can I restore that device?
[03:35] <jenenliu> Great
[03:35] <maddawg2> it's $8.33 a month
[03:35] <maddawg2> if you buy a full year up front
[03:35] <maddawg2> otherwise it's $15 a month
[03:35] <maddawg2> they actually have a few payment plans so you'd have to check
[03:35] <ObrienDave> jenenliu, check out VPNbook
[03:36] <maddawg2> also i dont know how that translate to your local currency.. those are USD prices
[03:36] <jenenliu> I know, thank you
[03:37] <maddawg2> i mainly just use it cuz i dont trust my ISP lol
[03:37] <maddawg2> and also when i travel it's helpful
[03:37] <jenenliu> Seems I have to sign up in order to know their price
[03:37] <dodo1> hi, I can not open an lucks encrypted hard disk. check out dsemg [ 1550.448668] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found
[03:37] <dodo1> [ 1550.448677] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[03:37] <ObrienDave> jenenliu, http://www.vpnbook.com/
[03:37] <maddawg2> huh?
[03:37] <maddawg2> just click on pricing at top of page
[03:38] <maddawg2> 3 before setup button
[03:38] <ObrienDave> jenenliu, VPNbook is free
[03:38] <maddawg2> it also isnt nearly as feature rich
[03:38] <maddawg2> no obfsproxy support
[03:38] <maddawg2> which sucks for when i am in China
[03:38] <maddawg2> china blocks their servers and uses DPI to detect vpn traffic
[03:39] <maddawg2> iVPN gets around that since it utilizes obfsproxy on the openvpn server to obfuscate the fact you're using a vpn
[03:39] <jenenliu> I am in  China a tuall
[03:39] <jenenliu> Actually
[03:39] <maddawg2> yea then i highly recommend ivpn
[03:40] <jenenliu> ObrienDave: thanks
[03:40] <maddawg2> it hides from the chinese government very well
[03:41] <jenenliu> Ok then, I will try free trial, not sure if I can connect their server
[03:41] <dodo1> jeneliu: why do you need a vpn?
[03:41] <maddawg2> he's in china dodo1
[03:42] <jenenliu> 😂
[03:42] <maddawg2> you'd be stupid not to use one in china lol
[03:42] <maddawg2> IMO
[03:42] <SchrodingersScat> in case you want to google 'freedom'
[03:42] <maddawg2> lol
[03:42] <maddawg2> and privacy
[03:42] <maddawg2> i dont trust that they dont snoop on your traffic
[03:42] <maddawg2> they pretty much do
[03:42] <maddawg2> lol
[03:43] <dodo1> so?
[03:43] <maddawg2> i dont trust them
[03:43] <tgm4883> lets stay on topic
[03:43] <maddawg2> i'd rather not have chinese government snooping my shit and blocking my sites
[03:43] <dodo1> please stop spreading anonymity rumors
[03:43] <maddawg2> what?
[03:43] <maddawg2> it's not a "rumor"
[03:44] <dodo1> I am a Tor and co user. not any propriatery vpn can be trusted at all
[03:44] <maddawg2> well i put anonymous in quotes
[03:44] <dodo1> not expected the model threat
[03:44] <maddawg2> because of that
[03:44] <tgm4883> !OT
[03:44] <maddawg2> it's not offtopic he asked for a vpn compatible with ubuntu
[03:44] <maddawg2> i told him
[03:44] <dodo1> maddawg2: I do not think so. anonymity exists
[03:44] <dodo1> online
[03:45] <dodo1> with right tools
[03:45] <maddawg2> not for vpns
[03:45] <maddawg2> we were talking about VPNs
[03:45] <dodo1> but not with a vpn
[03:45] <maddawg2> not tor
[03:45] <maddawg2> no shit sherlock
[03:45] <maddawg2> welcome to the conversation
[03:45] <dodo1> :) thank
[03:45] <SchrodingersScat> this is definitely offtopic, the person hasn't had input in a while and this doesn't have much to do with solving the issue
[03:45] <maddawg2> that's why i put the world "anonymize" in the sentence
[03:46] <PennyStockz> hello everyone
[03:46] <maddawg2> if he wants something that obfuscates the fact he's using a vpn and works in ubuntu i recommend ivpn
[03:46] <PennyStockz> my name is marcus
[03:46] <PennyStockz> i am here to make important announcement
[03:46] <PennyStockz> for everyone to help
[03:46] <tgm4883> 10:1 it's not an important announcement
[03:46] <jenenliu> Sorry guys
[03:46] <dodo1> ok ok ok you can say you want a vpn instead tor but do not expect anonymity online
[03:46] <PennyStockz> I need business advice on salaries
[03:46] <tgm4883> 3:1 it's off topic
[03:46] <tgm4883> !OT | PennyStockz
[03:47] <SchrodingersScat> jenenliu: I don't blame you
[03:47] <PennyStockz> I need some opinions on what salaries are good to start with
[03:47] <dodo1> let me a few moments
[03:47] <kicksled> PennyStockz: only ubuntu support here
[03:47] <PennyStockz> Suggestions for noob web developers
[03:47] <PennyStockz> A friend was seeking 1,000 EURO per week to start
[03:47] <PennyStockz> He has no B.A.
[03:47] <PennyStockz> He just is certified
[03:47] <tgm4883> PennyStockz: stop
[03:47] <PennyStockz> Web developer
[03:48] <dodo1> tes
[03:48] <PennyStockz> He has cloud-computing knowledge as well as infrastructure
[03:48] <PennyStockz> Is 1,000 EURO/week a bad starting salary?
[03:48] <tgm4883> !ops
[03:48] <kicksled> PennyStockz: stop. this has nothing to do with ubuntu support.
[03:49] <PennyStockz> How is 1,000 EURO/week good for starting, non-degree holding web developer/coder?
[03:49] <dodo1> I am identified
[03:49] <PennyStockz> I personally think it's a low salary, but sometimes you must start low
[03:49] <PennyStockz> Web developers with B.A.s, I feel, should start off with at least 2,000 EURO weekly
[03:50] <PennyStockz> I would not work for less than 1,100 EURO a week.
[03:50] <dodo1> can you help me on what I told: "hi, I can not open an lucks encrypted hard disk. check out dsemg [ 1550.448668] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found [ 1550.448677] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[03:50] <PennyStockz> But this is for a friend.
[03:50] <dodo1> please
[03:50] <PennyStockz> So thanks for your help!
[03:50] <PennyStockz> Just tell me your thoughts
[03:50] <PennyStockz> Thanks
[03:51] <phunyguy> PennyStockz: last chance, please stick to the channel topic.  Ubuntu support only.
[03:51] <PennyStockz> Is 1,000 EURO/weekly good for a starting web coder.
[03:53] <NastyJack> anyone know how to cast from ubuntu to smart tv?
[03:53] <gatton> did my channel freeze or are we all boycotting PennyStockz?
[03:54] <maddawg2> NastyJack, not sure you can but it depends on smartTV
[03:56] <OerHeks> gatton, he/she was totally offtopic
[03:58] <windmill> Hi folks..
[03:58] <windmill> I've got some static headphone noise when I listen to any audio.
[03:58] <windmill> It's in the left ear.
[03:59] <windmill> I thought it was my hardware but when I reboot it goes away.
[04:04] <NastyJack> its a samsung smart tv
[04:04] <NastyJack> any ideas maddawg?
[04:10] <OerHeks> !info mediatomb
[04:10] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MediaTomb
[04:10] <OerHeks> NastyJack, i'd try mediatomb
[04:13] <NastyJack> it says mediatomb ui is disabled
[04:14] <OerHeks> see the ubuntu manual howto edit /etc/mediatomb/config.xml etc
[04:14] <Axl_> hi, Do someone using ubuntu 16.06 on thinkpad x200 ?
[04:16] <Axl_> it seem some thing wrong on wifi
[04:17] <Axl_> when the laptop awake from sleep , the wifi can work .....
[04:18] <Axl_> ***can't  work...
[04:21] <Axl_> it cant scan hot point ....
[04:23] <Axl_> emmm...i made some mistake  is ubuntu 16.04....0.o
[04:23] <rifter> oh I have a suggestion for you there Axl_
[04:24] <rifter> periodically mine messes up, too.  Different problem, different system.  But I have a one-line script with the following: sudo iw wlan1 scan
[04:25] <rifter> I'm on a previous version but that command should work to make t he wifi adapter find the network again
[04:25] <rifter> of course wlan1 is my current wifi adapter.. you'll need to do ifconfig -a to make sure that is yours as well, or replace it in the command
[04:41] <Axl_> rifter : right , i have try it already, and it work again now :)
[04:52] <wudu_honour> hei ,I use  ubuntu 14.04 , how can I run ubuntu without GUI?
[04:53] <wudu_honour> how could I run the machine with LEVEL 3 in ubuntu 14.04
[04:55] <rifter> wudu_honour, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpstartHowto  "How do I change the default runlevel?
[04:55] <rifter> You should edit /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf instead and change the following line:
[04:55] <rifter>     env DEFAULT_RUNLEVEL=2"
[04:56] <rifter> so you could change that to runlevel 3
[04:56] <rifter> that changes the default runlevel on boot
[04:58] <sarek> My computer keeps crashing and im not exactly sure why, reading systemlog. As soon as the computer restarted, i uploaded the system log https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/491406/syslog . anybody think they can help? it will happen when im not doing anything and its idle
[04:59] <wudu_honour> thanks , @rifter
[05:00] <Goyt_> please tell me where to get the preset ubuntu 14.04 sp1 laptop dell 5558
[05:22] <protocol_hive> hello world
[05:49] <zeed> kubuntu is so lit
[05:53] <rookie> exit
[05:53] <rookie> exit
[05:53] <rookie> quit
[05:53] <rookie> \quit
[06:08] <gde33> sometimes my internet is disconnected, I use to reboot when it happens but I just discover that I can just click on the Wired connection 1 in the top right menu.
[06:08] <gde33> can it connect it self automatically?
[06:08] <gde33> I mean, is there an option for that?
[06:10] <gde33> I'm putting a lot of load on it with various tools when it vanishes. I assume that is the cause of it giving up?
[06:10] <ObrienDave> disconnections are usually a timeout issue
[06:11] <ObrienDave> you can try rebooting router and modem once a week or so
[06:12] <gde33> ic
[06:13] <m3ltd0wn> I have been getting usb 2-3: device descriptor read/64, error -32 on desktop when booting up ubuntu with mouse and keyboard plugged into usb 2.0 ports. when connected to usb 3.0 i dont get issue. I researched and got that it was a power issue as the usb has been drawing too much power and tripped it. Does it mean my psu is going out or a motherboard issue? any help would be appreciated!
[06:13] <gde33> ObrienDave: I got a new one 1 day ago
[06:14] <gde33> ObrienDave: my rss reader tries to push the requests to the limit, I think it is pushing it a bit over it
[06:15] <gde33> is there a hard coded/configurable maximum simultanious requests in ubuntu like there is in firefox?
[06:15] <ObrienDave> gde33, i don't know
[06:16] <ObrienDave> m3ltd0wn, usb 2 is limited to .5 amps. 500 milliamps
[06:17] <m3ltd0wn> hmm gonna have to break out the gauge. Thanks
[06:19] <ObrienDave> m3ltd0wn, your devices should say on the bottom or somewhere, what the current draw is
[06:21] <m3ltd0wn> yup thanks. what is usb 3.0 limited too?
[06:25] <ObrienDave> i'm not sure
[06:26] <m3ltd0wn> cool. thanks.
[06:35] <helix_> hello?
[06:35] <fn2> Hello helix_
[06:37] <helix_> this is cooler than wechat
[06:37] <cfhowlett> helix_, ask your ubuntu questions here.  chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:38] <helix_> fine
[06:39] <ObrienDave> helix_, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:39] <nomic> z.z.z.
[06:43] <sarek> 'press Alt+SysRq+1' whats "SysRq"?
[06:43] <Random832> sarek: same key as print screen
[06:43] <sarek> ok thanks
[06:43] <Random832> on some keyboards it's labeled "PrtSc SysRq"
[06:44] <misho> hi guys, having problem with wifi, it is unstable, dropping from time to time, and the speed is very slow. I recently installed ubuntu, and on windows 7 it was working normally. The laptop model is asus x401a, the wifi driver is rt2800pci. I tried to disable power management for wifi, i modprobed the driver with nohwcrypt=Y, it is still slow, do you have any other suggestions?
[06:50] <ObrienDave> when was it rebooted last?
[07:04] <markman> hello
[07:26] <ObrienDave> misho, when was it rebooted last?
[07:28] <teamspeak> hi
[07:28] <teamspeak> ji
[07:38] <FManTropyx> howdy
[07:44] <antiPoP> HI
[07:44] <antiPoP> I'm getting this message wile restartng mysql: stop: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.5" (uid=1000 pid=1427 comm="stop mysql ") interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Stop" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init ")
[07:45] <antiPoP> how can I make this work? The command is service mysql restart in 14.04
[07:46] <antiPoP> fixed, missing sudo
[08:11] <Vialas> Hello everyone
[08:11] <Vialas> how are yall?
[08:12] <FManTropyx> I am terrible
[08:12] <Dragoneye> need to clear cache dirs, find - somthing  -exec somthing  ?
[08:13] <Dragoneye> not so good
[08:13] <Vialas> oh im sorry to hear that FManTropyx :(
[08:14] <Dragoneye> -2.8 degrees and clear sky
[08:15] <baizon> !offtopic
[08:15] <Dragoneye> ubottu: tnx np!
[08:21] <Vialas> Hey guys, having a weird issue installing ubuntu on a macmini... after clicking "install ubuntu" the screen goes blank... and doesnt seem to progress.
[08:25] <cfhowlett> !mac | Vialas
[08:26] <Vialas> thanks ubottu ... i have gone through that... it seems like a weird error
[08:27] <Vialas> i used to have ubu on this mac... and it currently is running manjaro. so i dont see why it stoped working now :(
[08:29] <ChetManly> is there no such thing as bash alias instead of bashrc anymore?
[08:30] <FManTropyx> some systems have .aliases
[08:30] <ikonia> ChetManly: what do you mean ?
[08:30] <FManTropyx> actually, it is .bash_aliases
[08:31] <ChetManly> to create alias instead of messing with bbachrc
[08:31] <ChetManly> bashrc
[08:31] <ikonia> ChetManly: you understand they are just text files
[08:31] <ikonia> you can do what you want ?
[08:31] <ikonia> you can also use the command "alias"
[08:31] <FManTropyx> do you have "# Alias definitions." section in your .bashrc?
[08:31] <ChetManly> havent looked
[08:32] <FManTropyx> it looks for the .bash_aliases script and runs it, if it exists
[08:32] <flux242> ChetManly: .bash_aliases are sourced from the .bashrc. Do your stuff in the .bash_aliases
[08:32] <ikonia> ChetManly: you'll do better if you actually look at stuff, rather than just assume
[08:33] <ChetManly> ikonia: thanks tips
[08:33] <ChetManly> I just didnt see the the mentioned hidden file
[08:34] <FManTropyx> protip: -A ;)
[08:35] <flux242> .bashrc is system specific you usually don't change it except maybe enabling force_color_promt
[08:35] <ChetManly> ok
[08:35] <ChetManly> thanks :-)
[08:36] <flux242> hm, I meant distro specific
[08:38] <ChetManly> I got it
[08:43] <ChetManly> works thanks all
[08:47] <ChetManly> Command seems to hang in terminal. I have to close it out somehow?
[08:49] <flux242> ctrl-c
[08:55] <ProTeX> good morning , anyone can help me with support for ubuntu ?
[08:56] <cfhowlett> !ask | ProTeX
[09:10] <FManTropyx> I have a question, but maybe I'll save it for later
[09:11] <auronandace> wouldn't hurt to ask now, you might get an answer
[09:11] <Dragoneye> what is the terminal command for upgrading ubuntu?  apt update;apt upgrade doesn not  do it :-)
[09:11] <cfhowlett> Dragoneye, sudo apt full-upgrade
[09:12] <Dragoneye> cfhowlett: tank you :-D
[09:12] <cfhowlett> happy2help! Dragoneye
[09:13] <Dragoneye> cfhowlett: restarted ubuntu and got the message "Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it."
[09:13] <cfhowlett> whoa!
[09:13] <Dragoneye> cfhowlett: :-D
[09:13] <cfhowlett> upgrade = freshen all packages for the CURRENT release.  install the next release = sudo do-release-upgrade
[09:15] <Dragoneye> cfhowlett: Got it! :-) Tank you for input.
[09:15] <cfhowlett> what release are you on currently?
[09:16] <Dragoneye> that is relative to what computer you are refering to.  But the one in question is currently on 14.04 (or 14.10)
[09:17] <cfhowlett> Dragoneye, 14.10 is dead and end of life.  install a supported OS.
[09:17] <Dragoneye> cfhowlett: in progress....
[09:17] <Dragoneye> cfhowlett: its LTS
[09:18] <cfhowlett> Dragoneye, good then still supported.
[09:18] <Dragoneye> cfhowlett: :-)
[09:30] <patrice> join #diaspora-fr
[09:30] <Dragoneye> dont speak frensh
[09:31] <cfhowlett> patrice, put a slash in front like this: /join #dispora-fr
[09:35] <jogi> TEST
[09:36] <azizLIGHT> on ubuntu 14.04 i cannot see my bookmarks or add new ones. the option is grayed out.... it all started when i ran out of hdd space because a log file kept growing. i deleted the log file ~/.cache/upstart/Gnome-session.log or something like that (ive had this issue before and deleted the logfile without any problem). then my init process was eating a lot of cpu for some reason, so i tried to log out and it
[09:36] <azizLIGHT> wouldnt log me out. so i did ctrl alt backspace and logged in. since ive done this i notice now my bookmarks in nautilus cannot be seen or added to. please help
[09:39] <superkuh> Who are you logged in as azizLIGHT?
[09:39] <superkuh> Same as what the desktop is running as?
[09:39] <superkuh> Do you have permissions to write to the gnome config files?
[09:39] <azizLIGHT> as myself, before and after the problem
[09:40] <azizLIGHT> desktop gui looks the same to me?
[09:40] <azizLIGHT> unity
[09:40] <azizLIGHT> what specific files do i need to check permissions for superkuh
[09:40] <lolek> hello
[09:41] <azizLIGHT> ive also restarted to see if it would fix this issue, and i still see no bookmarks and am unable to add any new bookmarks in neither nautilus nor nemo
[09:42] <lolek> I've got a situation with my system. I've got ubuntu 16.04 and ufw set in that way it blocks all incoming traffic except few ports, the outgoing traffic is enabled. The problem is that with this setup I'm unable to browse samba network shares. i.e. I don't see them in nautilus, instead I've got empty window. Of course if I disable ufw, everything works as expected, any ideas?
[09:44] <azizLIGHT> ok its not grayed out. i misspoke
[09:45] <azizLIGHT> its grayed out only if the bookmark already exists.... so i can add new bookmarks yes. but all my bookmarks are gone
[09:45] <azizLIGHT> my file location bookmarks in nautilus
[09:47] <azizLIGHT> i guess i can make them again, but is there a way to restore them somehow
[10:16] <neo_> Hi. :D
[10:17] <neo_> :T
[10:27] <slaffe> my upgrade hangs at:
[10:27] <slaffe> Hanterar utlösare för initramfs-tools (0.122ubuntu8.5) ...
[10:27] <slaffe> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-38-generic
[10:29] <quinward> Does anyone know what is the index of the first disk sector in gnu parted? Is it 0 or 1?
[10:55] <consciouscode> test
[10:55] <consciouscode> Ok
[10:55] <consciouscode> My X server didn't start on this boot
[10:55] <consciouscode> The logs say that it couldn't find any devices to configure
[10:55] <consciouscode> I've been up for the last couple hours researching what to do
[10:56] <consciouscode> I've tried everything from reinstalling X to running X -configure
[10:56] <consciouscode> (X -configure btw fails with a similar error)
[10:56] <consciouscode> So I'm kind of at a loss as to what to do now
[10:57] <consciouscode> Most of the questions online are answered with first boots in mind
[10:58] <consciouscode> In this case, I've been running X fine for weeks. It just decided today that it wasn't going to work
[10:59] <yaraju> Hmm. I also had my X server bail out on me today. Login loop, then I went to upstart mode to change the nvidia kernel, and now, I can boot in recovery, then type my crypt password, then resume
[10:59] <yaraju> consciouscode: Do you have Nvidia graphics?
[10:59] <consciouscode> I'm not sure actually
[11:01] <yaraju> Ok, lets step back. When you say X server didn't start on this boot, what do you mean? As in, how far did it get?
[11:01] <consciouscode> Ok there is a bit of a story to it, so story time
[11:01]  * yaraju nods
[11:01] <consciouscode> My computer was coming out of suspend and failed to display anything, which was a problem I'd been having before
[11:02] <consciouscode> Something something firmware not quite right, didn't reconnect the screen
[11:02] <consciouscode> So after awhile I hard reset and booted back in
[11:02] <consciouscode> But this time, the Linux Mint logo didn't appear for the loading splash screen
[11:03] <consciouscode> Instead, it used an Ubuntu splash screen
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> consciouscode  mint is not supported here
[11:03] <consciouscode> Purple background, Ubuntu logo, etc
[11:03] <consciouscode> Oh
[11:03] <yaraju> yeah I have no idea about mint either
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> consciouscode  it's too different from ubuntu
[11:03] <consciouscode> I didn't think this'd be distro specific honestly
[11:03] <consciouscode> But ok
[11:03] <consciouscode> Is there a mint channel?
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> !mint
[11:04] <consciouscode> kk thanks
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> good luck
[11:04] <yaraju> My present issue is this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/1386005
[11:05] <yaraju> Will be trying that workaround to at least stop needing to go to recovery mode
[11:08] <yaraju> brb
[11:14] <PurwantoGZ> hello,,all
[11:15] <aaa_> ubuntu cant detect w10 in uefi dual installation
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> !dualboot
[11:20] <aaa_> thanks
[11:25] <magik17> dax!
[11:39] <FManTropyx> interesting: I have gcc (Ubuntu 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.2) 5.4.0 20160609
[11:39] <FManTropyx> the 16.04.2 part specifically :)
[11:42] <dumle29> I'm having a lot of trouble connecting a pair of bose QC35 to my laptop running ubuntu gnome 16.04. It'll connect, according to my laptop, but it won't show up in sound settings, and the headset also doesn't acknowledge the connection like they usually do. (they text to speach tell me which devices they are connected to)
[11:50] <janat08> so the ubuntu software is pretty shit isn't it? no1 dares publish apps there, the cunts won't port previous apps over, and then all this shit of a "software" won't update as result since in between steam not installing and 7 zip no running in archive manager I imagine the software itself may not be doing shit
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> janat08  no swearing here
[11:51] <yokisuci> janat08: Use regular apt-get then?
[11:51] <janat08> ill fucking run that thing every living moment that i'm on a shitter :D
[11:52] <yokisuci> janat08: :/
[11:52] <ducasse> !guidelines | janat08
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> janat08  you're making it hard for people wanting to help you
[11:56] <john_rambo> Hi, I am facing problem updating 14.04 >>>http://paste.ubuntu.com/23435871/
[11:56] <ducasse> john_rambo: just wait and try again later.
[11:56] <cfhowlett> or try a different mirror
[11:57] <ducasse> or that.
[11:57] <john_rambo> Trying different mirror ..now
[11:57] <ikonia> looks like you've messed with your sources list
[11:57] <vrld> is there a channel where I can talk random stuff?
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> !ot
[11:57] <cfhowlett> !defocus | vrld
[11:58] <vrld> ...
[11:58] <Lorra> Hi everybody! I'm running 16.04.1, I have an nvidia geforce g105m graphics card and yesterday the driver was updated to the latest version (which I can provide). Since this update my opengl programs fail to start on context creation. I researched a bit and found that by starting X with the +iglx (indirect glx) option they work again, but everything seems very slow and my browser Google Chrome just remains a black window. Does anybody knows s
[11:58] <Lorra> omething about this? Thank you in advance ^^
[11:59] <john_rambo> ikonia: This is a fresh installation ... I just finished installing
[12:00] <john_rambo> This result is with main mirror http://paste.ubuntu.com/23435900/
[12:01] <cfhowlett> john_rambo, it happens and usually self-corrects.  wait
[12:01] <john_rambo> cfhowlett: Okay
[12:01] <dumle29> It happened a lot to me, and I just changed to a local mirror. Haven't had such issues since
[12:01] <dumle29> also, everything was so much faster
[12:02] <dumle29> john_rambo: ^
[12:02] <john_rambo> I have tried some local mirror using yje"find fastest mirro" feature but same thing
[12:02] <john_rambo> dumle29: ^^
[12:02] <zall> who
[12:03] <dumle29> john_rambo: Ah, shame :/ I guess waiting is the answer then :/
[12:03] <cfhowlett> john_rambo, it's a package problem so ... wait
[12:04] <dumle29> I'm having a lot of trouble connecting a pair of bose QC35 to my laptop running ubuntu gnome 16.04. It'll connect, according to my laptop, but it won't show up in sound settings, and the headset also doesn't acknowledge the connection like they usually do. (they text to speach tell me which devices they are connected to)
[12:04] <john_rambo> Okay/Thanks
[12:04] <dumle29> They are bluetooth btw. Probably should've mentioned that :P
[12:05] <Guest34497> hey
[12:06] <Guest34497> im a girl
[12:06] <cfhowlett> the topic here is ubuntu Guest34497
[12:06] <Guest34497> ok
[12:07] <blond> bonjour a tous
[12:07] <cfhowlett> !fr | blond
[12:08] <blond> ok tank you
[12:11] <ANTI__psychiatry> fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck&destroy ---psychiatry!
[12:12] <ducasse> !spam | ANTI__psychiatry
[12:12] <cfhowlett> ANTI__psychiatry, take it elsewhere. Our topic is ubuntu only
[12:12] <MarderIII> mmm.. what was that command to ignore people? silence I believe?
[12:12] <vamsi> 192.168.0.1
[12:13] <cfhowlett> MarderIII, depends on your IRC client.
[12:13] <ANTI__psychiatry> but:  psychiatry dont like   ubuntu.
[12:13] <cfhowlett> ANTI__psychiatry, enough.  play somewhere else
[12:13] <dumle29> How often can I ask a question in here, without it being too pushy? I mean, after x amount of time, it's fair to assume that my question is lost to the join/part messages right? :)
[12:14] <BrianBro> k
[12:14] <nbastin> dumle29: well, or we don't know the answer...but yes, people do come and go and change their attention so after a while it seems reasonable to re-ask
[12:14] <cfhowlett> dumle29, 15 minute intervals is acceptable.  might want to put all the details in a paste
[12:14] <dumle29> Cool, will remember :)
[12:15] <ANTI__psychiatry> ubuntu  must  join antipsychiatry coalition!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[12:16] <dumle29> I sense a kickban coming
[12:16] <cfhowlett> !ops | ANTI__psychiatry spam
[12:16] <MarderIII> Sigh.. silence command is not available on hexchat.. bummer
[12:16] <cfhowlett> MarderIII, try /ignore
[12:16] <dumle29> MarderIII: There might be a rightclick option
[12:16] <ANTI__psychiatry> I am anti microsoft,too: they have backdoors to NSA,Cia,.....
[12:17] <MarderIII> @cfhowlett Thanks!
[12:17] <dumle29> poof and he's gone :)
[12:17] <cfhowlett> ANTI__psychiatry, and you are clearly anti-courtesy as you find it acceptable to violate the channel rules.  Not helping your cause or changing minds.  welcome to my /ignore file
[12:18] <nolash> my shutdown times out, specifically /sys/devices/virtual/block/dm-0 and things related to "cryptswap" - steps immediately after "show logo"
[12:18] <nolash> Any issues with these things known?
[12:20] <napbagh> Hi!
[12:21] <ANTI__psychiatry> ubuntu                                                                                                                                             must  join antipsychiatry coalition!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[12:21] <Xtreme> urgh, ##linux seems to be completely useless this days
[12:21] <Xtreme> there should be a rule you know. inactive members should be kicked out.
[12:21] <Xtreme> no point on joining the chat and just staying there for ages
[12:21] <cfhowlett> Xtreme, nothing to do with #ubuntu
[12:22] <Xtreme> :) gonna repost it here. So mentioning why reposting it.
[12:22] <Xtreme> i ran badblocks on my pendrive, which gave me list of 64 bad blocks. now i need to write them while making/creating ntfs parition. how am i suppose to do that?
[12:23] <Xtreme> mkfs.<filesystem-type> -l /root/badblocks.txt /dev/sdb doesnt seem to work
[12:24] <ANTI__psychiatry> ubuntu                                                                                                                                             must  join antipsychiatry coalition!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!       join,please:   antipsychiatry.org
[12:25] <ducasse> ANTI__psychiatry: please be quiet, nobody takes you seriously anyway.
[12:26] <dumle29> ahh ignore lists are great :)
[12:27] <dumle29> uuh, is that some sort of gorilla marketing tactic? The fnordserver quit message?
[12:28] <dumle29> I'm having a lot of trouble connecting a pair of bose QC35 bluetooth headphones to my laptop running ubuntu gnome 16.04. It'll connect, according to my laptop, but it won't show up in sound settings, and the headset also doesn't acknowledge the connection like they usually do. (they text to speach tell me which devices they are connected to)
[12:31] <MarderIII> dumle29: Had a similar problem with the distribution "retropi", found an entry in on of the forums about it.
[12:31] <MarderIII> Dont have the link though.. :-(
[12:31] <dumle29> MarderIII: Cool, gives me some googling keyworkds :)
[12:42] <LibertyWeNeed> how do I clean my system? Because my disk usage analyser says the disk is full, which I assume is the File Partition 1 since the file browser says i have over 700GB Free.
[12:42] <cfhowlett> LibertyWeNeed, I suspect you have a full boot folder: open a terminal and run        df -h
[12:43] <cfhowlett> !paste
[12:43] <LibertyWeNeed> ok
[12:45] <tomreyn> also please provide your ubuntu release version, as reported by: lsb_release -d
[12:46] <dumle29> tomreyn: What does lsb stand for? I've alwys remembered it as "least significant bit"
[12:46] <cfhowlett> man lsb will tell
[12:47] <LibertyWeNeed> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23436119/
[12:47] <LibertyWeNeed> Based on Ubuntu 14.04
[12:47] <dumle29> cfhowlett: No manual for lsb
[12:47] <cfhowlett> LibertyWeNeed, have you ever cleared out kernels
[12:47] <LibertyWeNeed> what does that mean?
[12:47] <MarderIII> A bit OT, but for analyzing/cleaning other partitions than boot you can also use "agedu" http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/agedu/
[12:47] <LibertyWeNeed> I would assume no
[12:48] <cfhowlett> dumle29, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23436134/
[12:48] <dumle29> cfhowlett: Cool thanks :)
[12:48] <cfhowlett> dumle29, OK let's do this step by step.  1. see /dev/sda1?  that is at 100%.  Not good.
[12:49] <dumle29> cfhowlett: you mean LibertyWeNeed? :)
[12:49] <LibertyWeNeed> thanks
[12:49] <LibertyWeNeed> yes i do
[12:49] <cfhowlett> doh!  right: LibertyWeNeed your /dev/sda1 should not be at 100% so let's do some cleanup
[12:49] <LibertyWeNeed> great
[12:50] <cfhowlett> first try : sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean
[12:52] <LibertyWeNeed> cfhowlett, https://paste.ubuntu.com/23436155/
[12:52] <ioria> LibertyWeNeed, give a look  your /boot folder
[12:52] <ioria> *at
[12:53] <LibertyWeNeed> What am I looking for?
[12:53] <cfhowlett> ls /boot | grep vmlinuz | cut -d'-' -f2,3
[12:53] <cfhowlett> that ^^^
[12:53] <ChetManly> why does vlc strech over three screens?
[12:53] <ioria> LibertyWeNeed, kernels . paste ls if you want
[12:53] <LibertyWeNeed> cfhowlett, what does that command do?
[12:53] <cfhowlett> lists your installed kernels
[12:53] <LibertyWeNeed> ok
[12:55] <LibertyWeNeed> cfhowlett, https://paste.ubuntu.com/23436170/
[12:55] <cfhowlett> full house1
[12:56] <ioria> LibertyWeNeed, du -sh /boot
[12:56] <LibertyWeNeed> looks like it
[12:56] <cfhowlett> LibertyWeNeed, dpkg -l | grep linux-headers*   will give you themore verbose list
[12:56] <LibertyWeNeed> who do I follow first?
[12:56] <cfhowlett> either
[12:57] <LibertyWeNeed> ok, what does the command ioria posted do?
[12:57] <ioria> LibertyWeNeed, gives you the size
[12:57] <LibertyWeNeed> ok
[12:57] <LibertyWeNeed> 477M
[12:58] <ioria> LibertyWeNeed, your / is 19G right ?
[12:58] <LibertyWeNeed> I think so
[12:58] <ioria> LibertyWeNeed,  should purge some kern, but there should be something else
[12:58] <LibertyWeNeed> do i type with the asterix? dpkg -l | grep linux-headers*
[12:58] <cfhowlett> yes that will display all your kernel info
[12:59] <ioria> LibertyWeNeed,  yes, the linux-image-extra*
[12:59] <ioria> LibertyWeNeed,  uname -r tells you your kern in use (don't purge it)
[13:00] <LibertyWeNeed> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23436191/
[13:00] <ioria> LibertyWeNeed,  but they are not ubuntu standard kernel, i guess
[13:01] <cfhowlett> trisquel?  LibertyWeNeed are you running trisquel??
[13:01] <LibertyWeNeed> On this particular machine, but was experiencing same problem on a machine running ubuntu
[13:04] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:04] <cfhowlett> LibertyWeNeed, ok let's talk about the ubuntu machine as trisquel is not supported here.  uname -a will display the currently booted kernel.  DO NOT DELETE IT!  but you can delete all except the 2 most recent kernels.  sudo apt-get purge linux-headers-3.13.0.98-lowlatencey linux-headers-3.13.0.98          and so on
[13:04] <LibertyWeNeed> ok
[13:04] <cfhowlett> I'm sure there's a more elegant way to code the numerical range of kernels to be deleted but I prefer the manual approach
[13:04] <zteam> Hi all!
[13:04] <ioria> LibertyWeNeed,  this to remove the 13.3 kerns : apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-{98,96,93,92,88,86,85,83,100}-generic
[13:05] <ioria> cfhowlett, why first the headers ?
[13:05] <LibertyWeNeed> ok
[13:05] <cfhowlett> ioria, nice!
[13:06] <ioria> LibertyWeNeed,  the kernels usually have 3 part:   linux-image, linux-image-extra, and headers . you need to purge all of them
[13:07] <zteam> I need help to get the Nvidia driver working on Ubuntu 16.10, it gives me huuuge delays then I try to log into Ubuntu and it doesn't seem to play nicely with the latest kernel either, I tried the ones from the graphics driverr ppa as well, but those seems to to make it impossible to log in into Unity at all, any advice?
[13:07] <LibertyWeNeed> is there an easy way to do this in the synaptic package manager? I am pretty novice
[13:07] <ioria> LibertyWeNeed,  if you wish
[13:08] <zteam> LibertyWeNeed, yes, you can purge from synaptic as well no problem
[13:09] <LibertyWeNeed> What exactly do I get rid of? I am rather worried I'll f everything up
[13:09] <ioria> LibertyWeNeed,  about the 4.x kernels, depends on how you have installed them
[13:10] <LibertyWeNeed> I followed this guide https://jxself.org/linux-libre/
[13:10] <LibertyWeNeed> that was how I installed it
[13:11] <ioria> LibertyWeNeed,  not loading
[13:11] <cfhowlett> same.  suspicious
[13:11] <LibertyWeNeed> It was the link i had bookmarked
[13:12] <LibertyWeNeed> https://web.archive.org/web/20161005173943/https://jxself.org/linux-libre/
[13:13] <ZoderUck> who uses kocksocks.js ? on ubuntu 16.04 ?
[13:13] <lightweight-x> Hello there! I am trying (as administrator) to open the desktop of another user without entering (knowing) their password. I know I can execute commands as another user with "su" but I am not sure how I can open another gnome session (note: ubuntu 14.04)
[13:14] <ioria> LibertyWeNeed,  well, if apt-get not working, you'll have to use dpkg -P
[13:15] <cfhowlett> lightweight-x, cracking another user account?
[13:15] <AndroUser> Guys. Im fresh install ubuntu drops to ctr+d.
[13:15] <ikonia> lightweight-x: why would you need to do this
[13:15] <ikonia> context would help
[13:16] <lightweight-x> ikonia: to see what he/she is talking about when talking about settings.
[13:16] <lightweight-x> ikonia: to get their POV
[13:16] <ikonia> just share a desktop session
[13:16] <cfhowlett> lightweight-x, easier to share their desktop
[13:17] <ikonia> there is no need to 'assume their desktop'
[13:17] <ikonia> or even quicker, take a screenshot/video
[13:17] <lightweight-x> okay, uhm: is the thing above possible?
[13:17] <ikonia> technically yes
[13:17] <lightweight-x> Anywhere to read up on it?
[13:17] <ikonia> no
[13:17] <ikonia> why would you want this when we've just given you the solution
[13:18] <LibertyWeNeed> removing kernels. hope my computer doesn't explode :)
[13:18] <ioria> LibertyWeNeed,  uname -r, please
[13:18] <cfhowlett> LibertyWeNeed, nope.  only risk is triggering a cross dimensional resonance cascade.
[13:18] <lightweight-x> ikonia: I am sorry: I gave you a fake reason so you stop ask for my reason, because the real reason is a slightly convoluted but I would like to try out if it makes sense to do it.
[13:19] <ikonia> lightweight-x: yes, I know you gave a fake reason
[13:19] <lightweight-x> Okay.
[13:19] <cfhowlett> lightweight-x, yeah, no.  we really do not appreciate dishonesty.
[13:19] <ikonia> hence why I'm not illing to help you
[13:19] <lightweight-x> So: Should I leave?
[13:19] <ikonia> willing
[13:19] <ikonia> you don't have to leave, but you won't get help trying to do bad things
[13:19] <lightweight-x> I am not trying to do bad things.
[13:19] <ikonia> yet you felt the need to lie about your reason
[13:20] <ikonia> your trust has been destroyed
[13:20] <LibertyWeNeed> will removing the kernel free all the space up?
[13:20] <lightweight-x> Because I am tired and try to get further.
[13:20] <cfhowlett> lightweight-x, you have a solution.  use ir.
[13:20] <ikonia> lightweight-x: couple of meg
[13:20] <cfhowlett> LibertyWeNeed, yes.
[13:20] <ikonia> lightweight-x: no help here, sorry
[13:20] <ioria> LibertyWeNeed,  some of it
[13:20] <lightweight-x> gotcha.
[13:20] <LibertyWeNeed> ioria, ok
[13:20] <cfhowlett> LibertyWeNeed, but you really should use trisquel support for any additional issues.
[13:21] <ZoderUck> node command not found
[13:21] <ZoderUck> anybody ?
[13:21] <ikonia> anybody what ?
[13:21] <ikonia> try asking an actual question
[13:22] <ioria> nodejs ?
[13:22] <LibertyWeNeed> cfhowlett, if you know the answer then, I am on the #trisquel channel now. I really do appreciate your help so I don't have to explain the situation all over again to someone else wasting several hours more.
[13:22] <ZoderUck> anybody needs chochlate ?
[13:22] <ikonia> ZoderUck: stop messing around
[13:22] <cfhowlett> LibertyWeNeed, hope you made notes and happy2help!
[13:22] <ikonia> ZoderUck: the channel is #ubuntu for ubuntu technical support
[13:22] <ikonia> !guidelines | ZoderUck
[13:22] <LibertyWeNeed> thank you
[13:22] <ikonia> ZoderUck: also chec the topic
[13:22] <ZoderUck> i have a problem, i think this concerns dependencies
[13:23] <ikonia> ZoderUck: again - if you ask an actual question, people can help you
[13:23] <ZoderUck> project.json(7,53): error NU1001: The dependency Microsoft.AspNetCore.AngularServices >= 1.0.0-* could not be res
[13:23] <ZoderUck> what to do now?
[13:23] <ikonia> ZoderUck: what package are you installing from what repo
[13:23] <ZoderUck> Linux HZIB001 4.4.0-21-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 18 18:33:37 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:23] <ZoderUck> and from yo man
[13:23] <ikonia> no, didn't ask for that
[13:23] <ZoderUck> o
[13:24] <ikonia> I asked what package you are installing and from what repo
[13:24] <ZoderUck> i think from the https://apt-mo.trafficmanager.net/repos/dotnet-release/ trusty main" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dotnetdev.list'
[13:25] <ikonia> ZoderUck: so you need to talk to that package maintainer about why he has packages with unresolved dependencies
[13:25] <ZoderUck> o ok
[13:26] <ZoderUck> the sample project was installed with yo project generator
[13:26] <ikonia> ZoderUck: so you need to talk to that package maintainer about why he has packages with unresolved dependencies
[13:26] <ZoderUck> o ok
[13:26] <ZoderUck> i will email him
[13:27] <ZoderUck> it is kind of depressive
[13:27] <ZoderUck> starting with angularJS results in a disaster
[13:27] <ikonia> ZoderUck: thats out of scope for this channel
[13:27] <ikonia> ZoderUck: I request you please read the /topic
[13:28] <zteam> I need help to get the Nvidia driver working on Ubuntu 16.10, it gives me huuuge delays then I try to log into Ubuntu and it doesn't seem to play nicely with the latest kernel either, I tried the ones from the graphics driverr ppa as well, but those seems to to make it impossible to log in into Unity at all, any advice?
[13:35] <MarderIII> zteam: Same problem. Seems to relate to the main processor. Atom in my case. No advice.. sry
[13:37] <sveinse> Does anyone know about a PPA for golang-1.7 backport to xenial?
[13:38] <MarderIII> zteam: any character output while starting up?
[13:39] <zteam> MarderIII, I have a Inte Core i7 6700k processor
[13:39] <anthonybocci> Hello! Is there a specific channel for ubuntu touch ?
[13:39] <auronandace> !touch | anthonybocci
[13:39] <zteam> MarderIII, with most driver I tried it boot correctly but can't load unity correctly
[13:39] <anthonybocci> Thanks auronandace! :)
[13:40] <Viknesh> Hi i have a issue with ubuntu desktop ,my status bar and launch pad or not visible
[13:40] <MarderIII> zteam: I get a series of messages that certain instructions time out. Very lowlevel stuff
[13:40] <Viknesh> Are*
[13:41] <Viknesh> I tried to enable unity plugin from compiz ,still no gain
[13:41] <zteam> MarderIII, brb
[13:41] <ioria> Viknesh, guest account ?
[13:41] <Viknesh> Even i deleted all gnome config files and restarted my system
[13:42] <Viknesh> Ioria let mw check with it
[13:42] <Viknesh> ioria guest account seems to work
[13:44] <Viknesh> @ioria what might be the issuw
[13:44] <Viknesh> Issue*
[13:45] <ioria> Viknesh,  you may have done something 'unsual' ... you can also create a new user or backup you ~/.config and  ~/.compiz  and reboot
[13:46] <ioria> Viknesh,   first check you ~.xsession-errors
[13:46] <ioria> *r
[13:46] <Viknesh> Ioria i am pretty sure i dint do anything . After resuming from sleep its displayed like that
[13:47] <ioria> Viknesh,   cat /.xsession-errors
[13:47] <ioria> Viknesh,   cat ~/.xsession-errors
[13:49] <kosmos890> Why the /var/lib/automysqlbackup/daily folder is empty?
[13:49] <Viknesh> Ioria ,i cant find that file in root dir
[13:50] <ioria> Viknesh,   in your home ...
[13:50] <ioria> Viknesh,   cat  ~/.xsession-errors
[13:53] <Viknesh> ioria when i cat it says '/usr/sbin/light-dm-session: 26: /home/viknesh/.profile not found
[13:53] <ioria> Viknesh,   ls -l ~/.profile
[13:55] <ioria> Viknesh,   you mean /usr/sbin/lightdm-session not /usr/sbin/light-dm-session  , right ?
[13:56] <Viknesh> Ioria ,yeah sorry the first one
[13:56] <ioria> Viknesh,   ls -l ~/.profile
[13:56] <Viknesh> Ioria ,it exist
[13:57] <ioria> Viknesh,   paste it
[13:57] <ioria> Viknesh,   maybe malformed
[13:57] <Viknesh> Ioria ,i am on mobile ,since i cant access my ubuntu
[13:58] <xXEoflaOEXx> Pastes goes to paste.ubuntu.com
[13:58] <ioria> Viknesh,   you should have a backup in /etc/skel
[13:58] <ioria> Viknesh,   backup your in home and replace with the /etc/skel one
[13:59] <ioria> Viknesh,   permissions are (0644/-rw-r--r--
[14:00] <Viknesh> Ioria ,u mean to backup entire home
[14:01] <ioria> Viknesh,   npe, just .profile
[14:01] <Viknesh> I gueess its huge ,around 30 gigs
[14:01] <ioria> Viknesh,   you need to replace your home .profile (~/.profile) with another one  /etc/skel/.profile
[14:03] <wormgear> connect irc.iarec.net
[14:03] <Viknesh> Ioria , yeah i did
[14:04] <ioria> Viknesh,   reboot and check .xsession-errors again
[14:06] <Viknesh> Ioria it says 'script for ibus started,
[14:07] <Viknesh> At run_im
[14:07] <ioria> Viknesh,   it's ok
[14:07] <Viknesh> And 2 more lines wirh auto started at run_im
[14:07] <Viknesh> Default started at run_im
[14:08] <Viknesh> @ioria si whats the issue
[14:09] <ioria> Viknesh,   rigt-click on desktop works ?
[14:09] <ioria> *right
[14:09] <Hydrogen> hi gang.  did an apt update on my 16.04 system the other day, rebooted and now I'm hanging at the boot splash screen...
[14:09] <Hydrogen> booting into recovory mode makes it looks like nfs is hanging
[14:09] <Hydrogen> but I can't figure out how to disable that
[14:09] <Hydrogen> or work around it
[14:10] <Viknesh> Ioria yeah it does
[14:11] <ioria> Viknesh,   still no launcher ?
[14:12] <Viknesh> Ioria yeah
[14:13] <ioria> Viknesh,   try to restart unity,  open Dash and type  unity
[14:13] <Viknesh> However login screen works
[14:13] <Lostfile> hello guys
[14:13] <Viknesh> Ioria unknow job unity
[14:14] <ioria> Viknesh,   in Dash
[14:14] <Viknesh> Oh sorry
[14:14] <Viknesh> Just started
[14:14] <Lostfile> meh i dont care for unity
[14:15] <Lostfile> i prefur xfce over it
[14:15] <Lostfile> or gnome flash back
[14:16] <Viknesh> Ioria restart dint help
[14:16] <ioria> Viknesh,   mv ~/.config  ~/.config.back     and  mv ~/.compiz   ~/.compiz.back  and reboot
[14:16] <Viknesh> :-(
[14:16] <Lostfile> man the older gnome desktop rocked
[14:17] <SchrodingersScat> Lostfile: there' ubuntu-mate if you want something similar, although xfce is close enough for me
[14:19] <john_rambo> I am a bit confused. I just installed Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS ...The repos seems to work fine but here >>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/1404_HWE_EOL#What_is_HWE.3F It says EOL is August 4 2016
[14:19] <Lostfile> i like xfce and how you can change it around but its not as crazy as kde
[14:19] <Viknesh> Ioria, btw i restarted unity from command mode ,not dash ,pressing super key dint bring anything
[14:19] <Lostfile> i like kde to but i dont like the dumb file manager it comes with
[14:20] <Lostfile> me no likey dolfin
[14:24] <Lostfile> so what is docker i keep hearing people talk about it from time to time
[14:25] <Lostfile> is like some sort of term app or some thing
[14:31] <Lostfile> you know what i get a feeling i should just google it
[14:31] <Lostfile> that i shall
[14:33] <Lostfile> ok now i know what docker is
[14:58] <kadaj> hello
[14:58] <xXEoflaOEXx> hi
[15:02] <hosified> asking here without searching as somebody may have this information handy.  Noticing theme issues since upgrading to 16.10.  Any links to show the changes required in themes?
[15:05] <loskutak> Hi, I have issues with my optimus nvidia laptop. After trying various nvidia drivers, I have given up and purged nvidia* so that I would work on intel gpu only for some time... However, now when I reboot, I get to the login screen, but after entering my password, I only get black screen with a mouse cursor for a second and then I get back to the login screen. Could anybody please help me? (14.04.5)
[15:15] <Antares> BRICS group entrepreneurs are welcomed to further cooperation http://rexant.org.ru/cooperation
[15:17] <ikonia> Antares: please don't spam
[15:17] <Antares> one more time ? pleeeesss
[15:17] <Antares> !
[15:18] <jmadero> hi all, I'm having a problem with my timezone and Ubuntu 16.04
[15:18] <jmadero> running sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata, I select my timezone but the time is off....
[15:19] <jmadero> Current default time zone: 'America/Los_Angeles' Local time is now:      Sun Nov  6 00:17:57 PDT 2016.
[15:19] <jmadero> it is now 7:20 am here
[15:21] <Threadnaught> so I was trying to fix audio on vanilla 16.04 so i did sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio without realising half the gui has dependencies on pulseaudio, I panicked and closed the terminal window half way through and now every time I boot resolv.conf is empty and the gui no longer works
[15:21] <Threadnaught> halp
[15:21] <smandy> hi all. I just set an ubuntu system to runlevel 3 hoping this would switch of display manager. It seems to have worked. But reading further runlevels 2-5 should be equivalent, so does anyone know how exactly display gets switched off in 3? There's a lightdm entry in /etc/rc3.d so I'm a bit confused :-(
[15:22] <jmadero> Threadnaught: best bet is to just reinstall
[15:23] <jmadero> Threadnaught: backup your data and do a fresh install, also don't purge stuff without knowing what you're doing ;)
[15:23] <Threadnaught> is there nothing I can do to fix networking?
[15:23] <Threadnaught> cos once I do that i can just reinstall the gui
[15:23] <Lantizia> Long shot, but did anyone buy a Dell 1525 laptop that came pre-installed with 8.04? :D
[15:23] <jmadero> Threadnaught: if you did somethign like purge pulse I doubt you'll have the skills to get networking working again (no offense)
[15:24] <jmadero> Threadnaught: are you hardwired and have no connection?
[15:24] <n8w> hey
[15:24] <Threadnaught> it was...a momentary lapse of judgment
[15:24] <Antares> http://ubuntu.hbr1.com:19800/trance.ogg HBR1.com - I.D.M. Tranceponder Trance
[15:24] <jmadero> Threadnaught: lol trust me I've done much worse
[15:24] <Threadnaught> i have ethernet if thats what you mean
[15:24] <Threadnaught> resolv.conf is empty on every boot
[15:24] <jmadero> Threadnaught: yeah if you have no net hardwired then clean install is your option
[15:25] <jmadero> you probably butchered a ton of necessary packages
[15:25] <Threadnaught> joy
[15:25] <jmadero> Threadnaught: hopefully your root and home folders are separate
[15:25] <jmadero> then a clean install takes 15 minutes
[15:25] <Threadnaught> I'm just thinking of all of the bodges I'm going to have to redo
[15:26] <jmadero> bodges?
[15:26] <Threadnaught> british word
[15:26] <n8w> ive got a weird problem with grub not seein new kernels after ive installed them....sudo update-grub has no effect
[15:26] <Threadnaught> make or repair (something) badly or clumsily.
[15:26] <SchrodingersScat> you could maybe try to liveusb and chroot and try to fix your apt and system, but that's up to you, idk what state it's in and probably can't help
[15:26] <jmadero> Threadnaught: ah yeah, I learned some time ago to document my installs and script as much as possible
[15:26] <jmadero> Threadnaught: 90% of my system is setup by one script now
[15:27] <Threadnaught> you are a better man than I
[15:27] <jmadero> learn lessons after things like "sudo rm -R /*"
[15:28] <Threadnaught> I'm not that bad
[15:28] <Threadnaught> TIL: chroot
[15:29] <dpy> hi guys
[15:30] <dpy> what can I do if Qt/KDE applications don't have window decorations when run outside of Plasma/Kwin ?
[15:38] <jollyin> ello
[15:38] <jollyin> hello
[15:39] <jollyin> anyone please help me to fix my audio
[15:39] <BluesKaj> jollyin, pastebin aplay -l
[15:40] <jollyin> i dint understand
[15:40] <BluesKaj> !paste | jollyin
[15:41] <jollyin> what you want me to paste
[15:41] <jmadero> jollyin: it means open terminal, run that command, and post the output to pastebin
[15:41] <jmadero> "aplay -l"
[15:41] <EriC^^> jollyin: open a terminal and type "aplay -l"
[15:42] <BluesKaj> jollyin, open a terminal and do: aplay -l , pastebin the output as described above and post the resulting pastebin url here
[15:42] <jmadero> no one else seeing any timezone issues with 16.04??
[15:42] <jollyin>  List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[15:42] <jollyin> Home directory not accessible: Permission denied
[15:42] <jollyin> card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC3221 Analog [ALC3221 Analog]
[15:42] <jollyin>   Subdevices: 1/1
[15:42] <jollyin>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[15:42] <jollyin> card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
[15:42] <jmadero> jollyin: please pay attention to instructions
[15:43] <BluesKaj> EST took place last nightat 2AM easterm
[15:43] <jmadero> "use paste.ubuntu.com"
[15:43] <jmadero> BluesKaj: I'm off by hours
[15:43] <jmadero> and have been since installing 16.04
[15:44] <EriC^^> jollyin: what are the permissions on your home dir, try "ls -ld ~"
[15:44] <BluesKaj> jollyin, in the terminal sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel. then open alsamixer in the terminal and make sure automute is disabled
[15:45] <jollyin> automute is ennabled but iam not able to diable
[15:46] <EriC^^> jollyin: maybe it's a permissions problem
[15:46] <jollyin> i have disabled but no output
[15:46] <EriC^^> try sudo chown -R $USER: ~
[15:47] <BluesKaj> jollyin, use the down arrow key to toggle it
[15:47] <FManTropyx> can somebody hepl me?
[15:48] <jmadero> FManTropyx: not if you don't tell us what the problem is
[15:48] <teamspeak> fm mond
[15:48] <jmadero> FManTropyx: ask your question and be specific
[15:48] <jollyin> o got funtion not implemented as response
[15:48] <BluesKaj> jollyin, use the nick of the pewrson you're responding to
[15:48] <EriC^^> jollyin: give the sudo chown a try
[15:48] <BluesKaj> person
[15:49] <jollyin> tried same reesponse
[15:51] <jollyin> help
[15:52] <maddawg2> OMG since switching to debian i never realized how freaking SLOW ubuntu was
[15:52] <jmadero> jollyin: please don't continue saying "help" - we know you have an issue
[15:52] <jmadero> we don't need reminded every 45 seconds you need help :-b
[15:52] <BluesKaj> jollyin, pavucontrol
[15:52] <maddawg2> yea we're not microsoft sheesh
[15:53] <jmadero> maddawg2: try a lighter distro and you'll be even more amazed
[15:54] <jmadero> jollyin: is this a fresh install? did it ever work?
[15:54] <jollyin> yes i have used before
[15:54] <jmadero> jollyin: before as in...? on this install?
[15:55] <FManTropyx> I need to resolve a multiproblem
[15:55] <jollyin> means
[15:55] <jmadero> FManTropyx: please just get to the questions
[15:55]  * jmadero feels like a dentist trying to pull a tooth out of a stubborn person's mouth
[15:57] <jollyin> i have installed long back it was working fine
[15:59] <jmadero> jollyin: okay try making a test user, log out of your current user, log in to the test user
[15:59] <jmadero> if it works, it's a permissions problem in your home folder
[15:59] <jollyin> yes you are right
[15:59] <jollyin> help me with fixing permissions
[16:01] <jmadero> jollyin: I am right what? did you set up a new user and test it?
[16:02] <jollyin> yes its working fine in other user account
[16:02] <EriC^^> jollyin: try logging in and out of your current user
[16:02] <jmadero> jollyin: just reset your permissions for your entire home folder then
[16:02] <EriC^^> the chown command should have reset stuff
[16:03] <EriC^^> also do find -type f -exec chmod 660 {} \;
[16:03] <EriC^^> and find -type d -exec chmod 770 {} \;
[16:03] <jmadero> jollyin: sudo chmod -R 755 ~
[16:03] <EriC^^> in your home dir
[16:03] <jmadero> thought defaut is 755 not 770
[16:04] <EriC^^> that's the default home dir
[16:04] <EriC^^> doesnt matter
[16:04] <jollyin> no its not happening
[16:05] <EriC^^> try renaming .config
[16:05] <EriC^^> mv ~/.config ~/.config.old
[16:06] <jollyin> ok bye
[16:07] <jmadero> lol ok
[16:07] <dabydob> Hi. I need to install a certificate, but using 'dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates' results in "WARNING: certficigate.crt does not contain a certificate or CRL: skipping".  Anyone have any ideas what to try next? running gcr-review shows the details of the certificate correctly.
[16:07] <ikonia> dabydob: ca-certificates won't create / install a certificate
[16:07] <ikonia> it will just rebuild the CA list
[16:10] <dabydob> ikonia: are your sure? It does say "This package may install new CA certificates when upgrading. You may want to check such new CA certificates..". And after checking the certificates checkbox, it seems to try to install.
[16:10] <dabydob> But if not, how do I install a new certificate?
[16:13] <Brisr> Stuck with urlencoding a date in curl. Anyone help? https://titanpad.com/SvcmyXxwC6
[16:13] <uio> Hello, I installed a package, and then apt-get purged it, but noticed that, even without an internet connexion the package can be reinstalled with a simple apt-get install. Is this normal? How can a package be actually removed?
[16:15] <jmadero> uio: sudo apt-get clean
[16:16] <uio> jmadero: So purge and remove just allow writing over of the space the packages occupied?
[16:16] <jmadero> uio: no it uninstalls but the packages (the actual debian packages) are still stored locally
[16:16] <jmadero> in a temp folder
[16:16] <jmadero> sudo apt-get clean purges those
[16:17] <uio> jmadero: So just "sudo apt-get clean [package]"?
[16:17] <jmadero> nope
[16:17] <jmadero> just sudo apt-get clean
[16:17] <uio> jmadero: no package specification?
[16:18] <jmadero> nope - it'll purge the entire folder
[16:18] <uio> jmadero: It removed all temp packages?
[16:18] <uio> jmadero: Oh
[16:18] <jmadero> if you've never done it before you'll see some serious space saved
[16:18] <uio> jmadero: Cool
[16:18] <yokisuci> exit
[16:18] <yokisuci> exit
[16:22] <ni291187> _ruben hello
[16:25] <ducasse> uio: you can also use 'apt' to install packages, it deletes them after install by default.
[16:25] <uio> ducasse: so if I use software centre it holds onto the packages while apt-get install does not?
[16:26] <ducasse> uio: no, 'apt-get' does, 'apt' does not.
[16:26] <uio> So, apt install?
[16:27] <ducasse> uio: yes, that should delete the package file afterwards.
[16:27] <uio> ducasse: thanks!
[16:28] <Lostfile> i dont get why i can use apt as well as apt-get in ubuntu 16.04
[16:28] <Lostfile> before i could only use apt-get for some reson
[16:28] <ducasse> Lostfile: apt is a frontend that includes functionality from several commands, not just apt-get.
[16:28] <Lostfile> oh
[16:29] <ducasse> Lostfile: and apt has been there for a few versions now, but it is pretty new.
[16:30] <Lostfile> i think it was like that when i first started using ubuntu wich i think when 11.04 just came out
[16:31] <Lostfile> or was it 12.04 im not to sure
[16:33] <Lostfile> i liked ubuntu 12.04 for some reson
[16:34] <Lostfile> i dont know why
[16:49] <sarek> Im sick and tired of my Ubuntu crashing and having zero idea why. I admit i am not experienced with troubleshooting crashes. Syslog wasnt enough, so i installed linux-crashdumb, but no idea how to use it
[16:49] <sarek> it crashed daily
[16:49] <sarek> all the time
[16:50] <sarek> what file am i even supposed to be looking at
[16:50] <EriC^^> sarek: did you try a different kernel?
[16:50] <sarek> No, i have not EriC^^
[16:51] <EriC^^> sarek: try a newer one
[16:51] <EriC^^> !mainline | sarek
[16:51] <sarek> i will google that EriC^^
[16:51] <sarek> thank you
[16:51] <EriC^^> sarek: a memtest might help too
[16:52] <sarek> i used the memtest usb and its fine
[16:52] <sarek> no issues on windows either
[16:55] <Village> Hello, how i can uninnstal program what i install by command dpkg -i
[16:55] <Village> ?
[16:56] <EriC^^> Village: sudo apt-get remove <package name>
[16:56] <Village> i was install not from packages, i was install from .deb file
[16:57] <EriC^^> Village: it's a part of the installed packages now so it also works
[16:57] <ub_ubuntu> Hey 4.8.27-generic kernel is spawning more than 1200 processes in 16.10. Is this normal??
[17:00] <NetStorm> Hey guys
[17:00] <NetStorm> im currently rocking Ubuntu on my Macbook pro
[17:00] <ub_ubuntu> Anyone using the latest kernel??
[17:00] <Lostfile> cool how did you manage to install it on a mac book
[17:01] <NetStorm> I used rEFInd
[17:01] <NetStorm> dual booted at first, but no 100 percent ubuntu
[17:01] <NetStorm> now*
[17:02] <Lostfile> nice
[17:02] <ub_ubuntu> Good
[17:03] <Lostfile> ub_ubuntu: im using the long term support verson of ubuntu so im only using the sable kernal
[17:04] <ub_ubuntu> Lostfile: Okay. Thanks
[17:04] <Lostfile> i mean kernel sorry miss type ub_ubuntu
[17:05] <ducasse> ub_ubuntu: -27? is that from proposed?
[17:06] <ub_ubuntu> Yes. I think so.
[17:06] <ducasse> ub_ubuntu: how many procs is normal for your setup with -26?
[17:06] <ub_ubuntu> ducasse: I dont have a -26
[17:07] <ducasse> ub_ubuntu: which earlier one(s) do you have?
[17:07] <ub_ubuntu> Had a -25, but that too had the same problem. So i have fallen back to 4.4-43
[17:08] <ducasse> ub_ubuntu: and how many then?
[17:08] <ub_ubuntu> Normal. Around 260
[17:09] <jpmh> I have just configured a new server, 14.4 LTS (32 bit) - all is working very well.  I decided to do a netstat -tulp just to chek I had no open ports, it is showing my :80 and :443 for ipv6 but not for ipv4.  I know thata the ipv4 is working because the server is working.  What am I missing here?
[17:09] <ducasse> ub_ubuntu: look through the process list, see what all the extras are.
[17:10] <ub_ubuntu> All the extras are workers.
[17:10] <ducasse> ub_ubuntu: kworker?
[17:10] <ub_ubuntu> Yes
[17:11] <ducasse> ub_ubuntu: intriguing. you could file a bug, i'm not sure how to debug this properly. you might be told to bisect.
[17:12] <ub_ubuntu> I have been trying to do that. Not able to find how to file a bug regarding this ..
[17:12] <ducasse> !bug | ub_ubuntu
[17:13] <roggetioci> hey guys
[17:13] <Lostfile> roggetioci: hello
[17:14] <roggetioci> can i change my user_name in irssi on the fly?
[17:14] <ub_ubuntu> ducasse: Thanks mate
[17:14] <ducasse> ubottu: np.
[17:16] <ducasse> roggetioci: i don't know irssi, but /nick should work
[17:18] <Village> EriC^^, i't don't works
[17:18] <EriC^^> Village: try dpkg -l | grep <package>
[17:18] <Village> I install deb packcage by dpkg -i and how i can remove it?
[17:18] <ducasse> Village: use dpkg -P then
[17:19] <Village> what means grep ?
[17:19] <EriC^^> apt works
[17:19] <Kobbb> Hello ! I've got a problem, my ubuntu session wont have the GUI starting, I get to be on tty1 because something must be crashing. Running on 14.04 with nvidia gpu.  I reinstalled the drivers, tried the solutions in google, didn't work. any help figuring out what's happening ?\
[17:19] <EriC^^> Village: it's a command to filter out stuff
[17:19] <EriC^^> Village: you have to use the package name, not the .deb file
[17:19] <ducasse> Village: grep = 'get regular expression'
[17:20] <EriC^^> dpkg -l | grep <package> should give you back the name of the package and install status
[17:20] <Village> no really tell what command stops demond and remove all what be installed with .deb
[17:20] <Village> ?
[17:21] <ducasse> Village: apt-get remove packagename
[17:21] <EriC^^> I already told you
[17:21] <Village> Package don't be installed by apt-get but so now that deb avilaible at apt-get and i need write package name and then it will be uninstaled, yes?
[17:21] <Village> ok, l;ets try
[17:21] <EriC^^> Village: the package name is exact though
[17:21] <roggetioci> all by / files not /home files are owned by root?
[17:21] <EriC^^> so use dpkg -l | grep <your guess here> to get it
[17:21] <roggetioci> did i fuck up my permission?
[17:22] <EriC^^> roggetioci: not all files
[17:22] <roggetioci> what are ur permisiions do ls -l / and tell me the result
[17:22] <EriC^^> well yeah the dirs in / are
[17:22] <roggetioci> EriC^^: do ls -l /
[17:22] <EriC^^> all root
[17:22] <roggetioci> even /mnt ,/tmp ?
[17:22] <EriC^^> yeah
[17:24] <Village> EriC^^, ok, this was good command, Thank You
[17:24] <roggetioci> EriC^^: even /home ?
[17:24] <EriC^^> Village: no problem
[17:24] <EriC^^> roggetioci: yeah
[17:24] <roggetioci> thx
[17:24] <Village> yohnnyjoe, where are you now?:)
[17:24] <EriC^^> np
[17:24] <roggetioci> EriC^^: do ya use arch?
[17:25] <EriC^^> roggetioci: i had it on a usb flash for a while, kept breaking cause of a bad usb so i removed it
[17:26] <Village> ok, ubuntu-offtopic
[17:27] <roggetioci> EriC^^: which is ur fav distro?
[17:27] <roggetioci> and why?
[17:27] <EriC^^> roggetioci: we can't really discuss stuff like that here :)
[17:27] <EriC^^> i like ubuntu though it's pretty easy to use, good community, looks good etc
[17:29] <sarek> EriC^^ thank you and i installed a new kernel, but i seem to be stuck at the login screen. i see my wallpaper, but my screen resolution is messed up and whenever i enter my password, it just takes me right back
[17:29] <EriC^^> sarek: try the guest account and see if it works
[17:29] <lmatteis> hi guys
[17:29] <lmatteis> so i have a problem
[17:30] <sarek> ok
[17:30] <sarek> nope
[17:30] <lmatteis> i have an apple keyboard. i mapped the command key to be my control key so i can use cmd + v (paste) cmd + c (copy) and other stuff i use on mac os
[17:31] <EriC^^> sarek: which kernel did you try?
[17:31] <lmatteis> the problem i that i also want to use cmd+tab to switch between open apps
[17:31] <sarek> 4.9 rc1
[17:31] <lmatteis> but doing this will interfere with ctrl+tab which is what i use in apps to switch between tabs (ex. chrome)
[17:31] <EriC^^> sarek: try 4.8
[17:32] <lmatteis> is there a way to map the actual command key + tab combination to replicate alt+tab (apps switch)?
[17:32] <lmatteis> rather than ctrl + tab
[17:32] <sarek> ok
[17:35] <jswagner> lmatteis: that mapping is done at the app level, so you can fix it only if the app lets you change it
[17:35] <lmatteis> jswagner: not if at system level i can say key133+tab overwrites alt+tab
[17:36] <ducasse> lmatteis: some/most window managers lets you map keys at will, dunno about compiz/unity
[17:37] <lmatteis> ducasse: right but they only do it at the key level (ctrl+tab)
[17:37] <lmatteis> not (key133 + tab)
[17:38] <ducasse> lmatteis: you want to remap at x server level?
[17:39] <jswagner> if i understand correctly, he's already remapped it the way he wants, he just wants to fix Chrome (and other apps) that use Ctrl+Tab to switch tabs
[17:39] <sarek> EriC^^ https://paste.ubuntu.com/23437772/
[17:39] <jwsceland> hello
[17:40] <EriC^^> sarek: try installing the _all.deb package first
[17:40] <sarek> ok
[17:46] <Lantizia> sarek, it is not logical
[17:55] <CtrlC> What's the difference between -d and --to-destination options exactly in iptable command? I can't find --to-destination in the man page.
[18:00] <tomato> anyone here
[18:00] <tomato> hello
[18:00] <kk4ewt> nope
[18:01] <Lostfile> im here
[18:01] <kk4ewt> Lostfile,  but you are not anyone
[18:01] <Lostfile> aww
[18:01] <kk4ewt> you are Lostfile
[18:01] <Lostfile> ok
[18:01] <Lostfile> :[
[18:01] <BluesKaj> kk4ewt, check the nicklist next time :-)
[18:02] <kk4ewt> BluesKaj,  maybe you should
[18:02] <BluesKaj> I don't need to
[18:02] <kk4ewt> because anyone is not listed
[18:02] <BluesKaj> ha ha , ...
[18:09] <nbastin> is there a better option for on-demand apt caching than apt-cacher-ng?
[18:10] <algo> hey there......
[18:11] <algo> i have a question
[18:11] <nbastin> You should actually ask it, instead of talking about asking it
[18:11] <SerialDev> go ahead, ask away
[18:12] <algo> point . actually my wireless interface is showing a different name like "wlx18a6f71c78a4" instead of wlan0
[18:12] <SerialDev> i actually wiped a windows desktop and put ubuntu on it because i got tired of spending 50% of my merely keeping that old carcass updated
[18:12] <algo> how to fix this
[18:12] <nbastin> algo: well, is it actually important to "fix"?
[18:12] <SerialDev> might need to rename it in a config file in /etc somewhere
[18:13] <nbastin> algo: udev probably renamed it for a series of stupid reasons that I have my own feelings about, but it's just a name, does it really matter?
[18:13] <algo> ya or else it will take 100 years for me to rmemorize this name
[18:13] <SerialDev> why do you need to memorize it?
[18:13] <ducasse> algo: that's called "persistent interface naming", it's how things are now.
[18:13] <OerHeks> algo,  with systemD comes predictable interface naming, > https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ <  so nothing to fix, you can turn back to the old wlan0
[18:14] <ducasse> predictable, yes, sorry
[18:14] <nbastin> (could it persistently use wlan0?  It could, but that would be way too easy apparently)
[18:14] <algo> tell me if we can change the name
[18:15] <nbastin> if you have udev (and not systemd) you can rename it with udev configuration
[18:15] <nbastin> if you have systemd+udev, there's some way to do it but I'm not sure what it is
[18:15] <OerHeks> http://serverfault.com/questions/741210/disabling-predictable-network-interface-names-in-xubuntu-15-10 and up
[18:15] <OerHeks> but i wouldn't
[18:15] <SerialDev> systemd is an nsa worm hack brought to us via redhat
[18:16] <SerialDev> it's evil
[18:16] <nbastin> ok, I think that's extreme, but yes it's evil
[18:16] <OerHeks> SerialDev, bla bla stop that fud
[18:17] <SerialDev> brought to us by the same guys that gave us pulse audio
[18:17] <algo> is there any issue with this name ..........
[18:17] <algo> interface name
[18:17] <nbastin> algo: you can change the name, but you have to figure out how depending on who set it
[18:19] <algo_> hey there is there a way to change the wireless interface name
[18:19] <algo_> my wireless interface is something like "wlx18a6f71c78a4" instead of wlan0
[18:19] <nbastin> algo_: maybe you missed the previous note, but you have to figure out what is setting it
[18:19] <OerHeks> algo_, your answer >> http://serverfault.com/questions/741210/disabling-predictable-network-interface-names-in-xubuntu-15-10 and up
[18:19] <nbastin> You don't have to flat-out disable namign to rename things...
[18:20] <sean_1> Hey guys, so I interrupted an update and lost my GUI.
[18:21] <SerialDev> ouch!
[18:21] <SerialDev> no gui for evildoers! \o/
[18:21] <sean_1> I know what the problem is though, but IDK how to fix it...let me try to get this on a paste website
[18:22] <OerHeks> sean_1, ctrl alt + F2, login, run updates again, or sudo apt install -f, return back to the gui with ctrl alt F7
[18:22] <nick_JarWiS> Pessoal sou novo aqui no WeeChat, alguem pode me ajudar quanto ao aprendizado
[18:22] <sean_1> OerHeks: that stuff didn't work
[18:23] <nick_JarWiS> alguma indicação bibliografica pra estudar
[18:23] <nick_JarWiS> ?
[18:23] <OerHeks> !pt | nick_JarWiS english only please,
[18:23] <blackflow> Hello. I'm trying to understand how Xenial does encrypted root, so I looked into initramfs. However, it appears to be pure pixie dust and magic because the initrd doesn't seem to contain a root filesystem... and there are no hints in /etc/initramfs-tools, no mention of cryptsetup, there's no cryptroot....   Help?
[18:23] <sean_1> Is there a command line paste tool for ubuntu like wgetpaste?
[18:24] <OerHeks> !pastebinit
[18:24] <nbastin> sean_1: termbin is useful as well
[18:24] <ducasse> sean_1: 'command | nc termbin.com 9999'
[18:24] <OerHeks> but that needs an install , <command> | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:25] <sean_1> ah  i got it
[18:25] <sean_1> i used sprunge
[18:25] <sean_1> http://sprunge.us/FVhN
[18:25] <Village> Hello, what is good VPN software for ubuntu?
[18:26] <sean_1> Problem spots: AIGLX error blah blah blah
[18:26] <nbastin> Village: for the server side?  because for the client side it should be whatever works with your server
[18:27] <Village> nbastin, yes at server side, and i want connect from windows to ubuntu..
[18:28] <sean_1> I looked at the .so file for libGL and it indeed is missing those things it mentions
[18:28] <nbastin> that...depart message makes no sense
[18:28] <nbastin> but sadly they are gone now
[18:28] <sean_1> i have no idea what to do though, like...what package did i install that contains this, and can i reinstall it
[18:29] <blackflow> nbastin: the vim one?
[18:29] <nbastin> but sadly they are gone now
[18:29] <nbastin> erp
[18:29] <nbastin> blackflow: yeah
[18:29] <blackflow> nbastin: it's in reference to new macbooks being without the ESC key
[18:29] <nbastin> blackflow: oh I know, for vim, which also uses ESC a lot...
[18:29] <blackflow> dunno if you heard, mac is dropping the esc key
[18:30] <nbastin> I mean it's not dropping the esc key, it drops a physical esc key
[18:30] <blackflow> yea
[18:30] <sean_1> OerHeks: so, did you give it a look?
[18:30] <nbastin> it turns out it's not that bad for vim, but it's a little weird that it doesn't go down
[18:31] <nbastin> Village: openvpn is easiest for both sides - if you have some specific needs it might not be fast enough though
[18:32] <nbastin> Village: it makes a much smaller MTU than other options, and can cause some TCP-in-TCP problems on really bad connections, but other options are much more difficult to get working (although not necessarily "too" difficult, just more difficult)
[18:32] <Village> nbastin, so apt-get install openvpn
[18:32] <ioria> sean_1,on my system the two libs are in libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-xenial package , check with dpkg -S and maybe reinstall them
[18:32] <nbastin> Village: yes, but you should also read the documentation
[18:32] <nbastin> Village: openvpn.net
[18:32] <Village> all be good just tell me how install and what config must be?
[18:33] <nbastin> Village: we can't tell you what the config should be, you need to read the documentation
[18:33] <sean_1> ioria: okey dokey, doing that now
[18:33] <ioria> sean_1, i'd say you did something with mesa or steam or stuff
[18:33] <Village> it's long time, but if you be faced with this progrogram so you can help me run that vpn on my server side
[18:34] <ducasse> Village: some things you just need to understand to use them properly
[18:34] <nbastin> Village: Read the documentation.  I cannot help you with your own setup - the docs are clear, just read them and do what makes sense for your environment
[18:34] <ioria> sean_1, mostly video-drivers
[18:35] <sean_1> ioria: what happened was, apt was running for 30 minutes and I killed it. Then I killed some other process, I think it messed with secure boot or something but I believe I fixed that. *now* I have this issue however...
[18:35] <sean_1> I interrupted the update because I figured there's no way it could still be updating after 30 minutes
[18:35] <sean_1> I guess it hung on something important
[18:36] <sean_1> ioria: also: looks like I have that same package, reinstalling
[18:36] <ioria> sean_1,  cat /etc/issue
[18:37] <sean_1> ioria: elementary OS Freya \n \1 . *shrug*
[18:37] <ioria> sean_1,  oh
[18:38] <sean_1> ioria: apt can't find that package btw...
[18:38] <ioria> !info libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-xenial trusty
[18:38] <blackflow> Any ideas how to unpack the Xenial initrd file? It's 44MB large and using cpio on it unpacks a microcode bin few kb in size....
[18:39] <ducasse> !elementary | sean_1
[18:39] <sean_1> *sigh* there's like 10 people in there
[18:39] <ioria> sean_1,  can you run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[18:39] <sean_1> and it's the same kernel and package manager anyway
[18:40] <sean_1> ioria: yes, but nothing happens when i upgrade afterwards
[18:40] <ioria> sean_1,  when upgrade is stopped, some pkgs may be unconfigured
[18:41] <ioria> sean_1,  and the PM tells you to run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[18:41] <sean_1> ioria: running update then upgrade again. when i try to install that mesa package it tells me it can't find it :/
[18:41] <sean_1> ioria: i've done that too
[18:41] <ioria> sean_1,  so run again dpkg -S /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so
[18:42] <chinotechx> hola !!!
[18:42] <chinotechx> hi
[18:42] <sean_1> ioria: the entire pathname makes a difference? ok
[18:43] <ioria> nope
[18:43] <blackflow> this is twilight zone.....
[18:44] <sean_1> ioria: actually that just gives me an error lol. I ran dpkg -S i965_dri.so and it told me I have libg11-mesa-dri-lts-xenial:amd64: /usr/lib...what you typed basically
[18:44] <sean_1> so i need to reinstall that package
[18:44] <sean_1> when I try sudo apt-get install libg11-mesa-dri-lts-xenial though it tells me unable to locate package
[18:45] <EriC^^> sean_1: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:45] <sean_1> EriC^^: ok
[18:47] <sean_1> EriC^^: http://sprunge.us/HXGf
[18:47] <EriC^^> sean_1: you had trusty and updated to 16.04?
[18:48] <sean_1> EriC^^: uname -a shows i have 14.04
[18:49] <EriC^^> sean_1: what's your problem exactly i wasn't following earlier
[18:49] <ioria> sean_1,  and uname -r
[18:49] <sean_1> EriC^^: i have no more GUI after interrupting an updater
[18:49] <sean_1> update*
[18:49] <EriC^^> oh
[18:49] <sean_1> uname -r: 4.4.0-45-generic
[18:50] <EriC^^> that's a xenial kernel
[18:50] <EriC^^> so you need the xenial xorg stack
[18:50] <ioria> sean_1,  apt-cache policy  libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-xenial
[18:50] <sean_1> EriC^^: here is the Xorg.0.log: http://sprunge.us/FVhN and ok
[18:51] <ioria> EriC^^, he is on elementary though
[18:51] <ioria> sean_1,  apt-cache policy  libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-xenial   what gives you ?
[18:52] <sean_1> ioria: http://sprunge.us/FDSC
[18:52] <zteam> I need help to get the Nvidia driver working on Ubuntu 16.10, it gives me huuuge delays then I try to log into Ubuntu and it doesn't seem to play nicely with the latest kernel either, I tried the ones from the graphics driverr ppa as well, but those seems to to make it impossible to log in into Unity at all, any advice?
[18:52] <deadshot> How to update my ubuntu 15.04 to 16.10
[18:52] <deadshot> ?
[18:52] <EriC^^> !eolupgrades | deadshot
[18:53] <EriC^^> clean install would be nicer deadshot
[18:53] <technocf> I've never had good luck doing an upgrade.  At least something would end up breaking.
[18:53] <ioria> sean_1,  and apt it's not finding it ?
[18:53] <sean_1> ah i am a fool, wrote a 1 instead of an l
[18:53] <deadshot> Eric^^, if i do clean installation, is thier any chance that my data can lost
[18:53] <deadshot> ?
[18:54] <sean_1> they look really similar on ascii term
[18:54] <akik> !info nvidia-352 trusty
[18:54] <EriC^^> deadshot: backup your stuff somewhere, and also the list of installed packages then install
[18:54] <sean_1> now i tried to reinstall, it just told me it was already the latest and set to manually installed
[18:54] <zteam> deadshot, launch the update-manager click on settings and make sure it is set to update to all releases apt, should then tell you that there is a update available
[18:54] <sean_1> is there some sort of reinstall option?
[18:55] <deadshot> Eric^^, How to make backup ?
[18:55] <ioria> sean_1,  well, on ubuntu that pkg is part of the xenial HWE  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[18:55] <EriC^^> deadshot: got any ext hdd?
[18:55] <deadshot> No
[18:55] <deadshot> :(
[18:56] <sean_1> ioria: ok...well...what ought i to do? Is there any way to reinstall it?
[18:56] <ioria> sean_1,  before that, be sure your PMan is working and you you're not left with unconfigured pkgs
[18:57] <zteam> deadshot, you should be able to update via the update manager
[18:57] <sean_1> ioria: ok, well I did the configure -a thing from earlier and am fully updated + upgraded
[18:57] <ioria> sean_1,  sudo apt-get update, upgrade, dist-upgrade  and try to install something
[18:57] <ducasse> zteam: 15.04 is eol, so no
[18:58] <zteam> ducasse, well wrong term from me, I mean upgrade not update
[18:59] <sean_1> ioria: OK, doing it all again
[18:59] <ducasse> zteam: update manager will not upgrade 15.04, he needs to do it manually
[18:59] <sean_1> ioria: startx still doesn't work :(. same error as before.
[19:00] <ioria> sean_1,  well, don't use startx .... sudo service lightdm restart
[19:00] <jerry> hey anyone who plays assault cube :D
[19:00] <ioria> sean_1,  if you have lightdm
[19:00] <EriC^^> deadshot: do you have a usb?
[19:00] <EriC^^> that can fit your data?
[19:00] <deadshot> Eric^^, ya
[19:01] <deadshot> 8GB
[19:01] <sean_1> ioria: didn't work :(
[19:01] <EriC^^> copy them to the usb then read here it says you can reinstall without losing contents of home, but backup first just in case http://askubuntu.com/questions/269880/re-install-ubuntu-without-losing-data-in-home-folder
[19:01] <zteam> ducasse, umm.... nope.... I have used update-manager several uears to go from one ubuntu release to the next
[19:01] <sean_1> and all that stuff from nm -D /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so | grep glapi is still undefined
[19:01] <ducasse> zteam: yes, but 15.04 is eol is what i'm saying
[19:02] <ducasse> !eolupgrade | zteam
[19:02] <ioria> sean_1,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack  but idk it's working on your system
[19:02] <sean_1> i am restarting in the hopes this works out...but man...this is ridiculous -_-
[19:02] <ioria> sean_1,  sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-core-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-xenial libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-xenial
[19:04] <sean_1> yeah of course it didn't work out. man. ioria: does that upgrade me to 16.04?
[19:04] <sean_1> I'm not entirely certain if that'll work out ok...man...I think I'm just going to grab a usb and work on this box instead until i can fix this problem later
[19:04] <ioria> sean_1,  nope, just the xorg and kernel (that you already have)
[19:05] <sean_1> ioria: alright i will give it a spin
[19:05] <ioria> sean_1,  install ubuntu :þ
[19:05] <sean_1> ioria: I like eOS for the aesthetic lol and it's almost just as user friendly
[19:05] <ioria> sean_1,  ok
[19:05] <zteam> ducasse, yes,but that shouldn't really matter since he just wants to upgrade to the next ubuntu release not update the existing one, I never tried to  upgrade and EOLED version of Ubuntu thought so I could be wrong here
[19:06] <sean_1> ioria: lol i really hope this command sorts everything out
[19:06] <ioria> sean_1,  not sure , reading could be a bug
[19:06] <ducasse> zteam: i have, and it does matter.
[19:07] <zteam> ducasse, okey, sorry then :-)
[19:08] <zteam> I need help to get the Nvidia driver working on Ubuntu 16.10, it gives me huuuge delays then I try to log into Ubuntu and it doesn't seem to play nicely with the latest kernel either, I tried the ones from the graphics driverr ppa as well, but those seems to to make it impossible to log in into Unity at all, any advice?
[19:08] <sean_1> ioria: well, I figured it was my fault for stopping the upgrade in the middle of it
[19:09] <ioria> sean_1,  mmm. did you install something weird ? that puts some libs in /usr/local/lib ?
[19:09] <sean_1> ioria: nope, nothing but some language packages
[19:09] <sean_1> err, directories
[19:10] <sean_1> python 2.7, 3.4, R, and site_ruby. that is all that is in there.
[19:10] <ioria> sean_1,  what 's in /usr/local/lib ?
[19:10] <ioria> ok
[19:10] <bufalo1973> hello
[19:11] <ioria> sean_1,  can you paste ldd /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so ?
[19:12] <Razva> made a fresh Ubuntu VM (Proxmox) and a clean install, 3 times. this is what hapens all the time: /dev/sda1: clean, blah blah blocks (full error here: http://screencast.com/t/zrkbQ7qiJ ). any hints please?
[19:12] <sean_1> ioria: http://sprunge.us/ZLDT
[19:13] <ioria> sean_1,  nvidia related, maybe... purge it
[19:13] <sean_1> ioria: I have an nvidia card though D:
[19:14] <sean_1> lspci -nnk tells me it isn't being used though
[19:14] <ioria> sean_1,  i know, you can reinstall it
[19:14] <sean_1> ioria: alright
[19:14] <ioria> sean_1,  sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[19:14] <ioria> sean_1,  (note the *)
[19:15] <sean_1> hmmm
[19:15] <sean_1> i have an nvidia package up for autoremove
[19:15] <sean_1> maybe doing that will fix my problem.
[19:16] <ioria> sean_1, which is ?
[19:16] <sean_1> it was nvidia-opencl-icd-352
[19:16] <sean_1> there was also a linux image generic that needed autoremoving
[19:16] <ioria> !info nvidia-opencl-icd-352 trusty
[19:17] <ioria> sean_1, go on
[19:17] <sean_1> it was linux-image-extra-4.4.0-36-generic
[19:17] <ioria> sean_1, an old kernel
[19:17] <sean_1> ioria: yeah
[19:17] <ioria> sean_1, you have .45
[19:18] <sean_1> ioria: yes. there's more stuff to autoremove, kernel headers relating to the thing i removed
[19:18] <sean_1> guess i'll do that tooi
[19:18] <sean_1> i think this won't solve my issue though, but who knows
[19:19] <ioria> sean_1,  how did you install nvidia, from repo or ppa ?
[19:19] <sean_1> ioria: the official repos i think
[19:19] <ioria> sean_1,  no worries, then
[19:20] <akik> my bumblebee setup was broken with the nvidia-352 -> nvidia-367 update
[19:20] <sean_1> ioria: yes. restarted. hopefully things work out. I am not really certain why such a massive problem could result
[19:21] <ioria> sean_1,  good luck mate
[19:21] <sean_1> ioria: ok yeah no gui again ;(
[19:21] <sean_1> lol
[19:21] <ioria> sean_1,  sudo lshw -C Video
[19:21] <albech> i have compiled an application on my buildbox and wish to move it to my production environment. Is there a way to have make install write all files to a tar.gz file rather than the file system so it can be moved to the production environment?
[19:22] <sean_1> same errors...*sigh* and ok
[19:22] <albech> btw buildbox and production environment are identical
[19:22] <albech> except for build tools
[19:24] <sean_1> ioria: http://sprunge.us/jbKE
[19:24] <ioria> sean_1,  you know nomodeset ?
[19:25] <gambl0re> i keep getting Sorry Ubuntu experienced an internal error
[19:25] <gambl0re> when i boot up
[19:25] <ioria> sean_1,  how to append to kernel boot line ?
[19:25] <sean_1> ioria: when I set it I couldn't even do anything
[19:25] <sean_1> ioria: maybe i put it in the wrong place
[19:26] <ioria> sean_1,  after  ro quiet splash
[19:26] <sean_1> ioria: i have heard it's a tmp solution :/
[19:26] <ioria> sean_1,  yep
[19:26] <sean_1> ioria: how can i permanently fix this? :|
[19:27] <ioria> sean_1,  try that  (after we can reinstall nvidia)
[19:28] <sean_1> ioria: alright. do i keep $vt_handoff
[19:28] <ioria> sean_1,  yes
[19:30] <sean_1> i think i did this before and it just completely hung, couldn't even get an ascii terminal...looks like it's doing the same thing again
[19:30] <sean_1> yep, everything froze
[19:30] <gambl0re> how do i free up space, i already cleared up any unnecessary files
[19:30] <sean_1> can't ctrl+alt+f3
[19:30] <gambl0re> but i know there are some hidden system files i can clear
[19:32] <sean_1> ioria: hey it didn't work out, i can't nomodeset without freezing my machine entirely
[19:32] <ioria> sean_1,  reboot and open a console
[19:33] <sean_1> ioria: alright...time to reinstall nvidia i am guessing?
[19:34] <ioria> sean_1,  ubuntu-drivers list
[19:35] <sean_1> ioria: nvidia-367 and nvidia-340, that's it
[19:36] <loskutak> ioria: I am back with the optimus laptop graphics finally working again. thank you (and other guys) for your help over the last two days!
[19:36] <ioria> loskutak, good job :þ
[19:36] <ioria> sean_1,  dpkg -l | grep linux-headers
[19:38] <sean_1> ioria: http://sprunge.us/NTbU
[19:39] <ioria> sean_1,  ok sudo apt-get install nvidia-367 nvidia-prime   (and see if you can diable secureboot)
[19:39] <ioria> *disable
[19:39] <sean_1> ioria: when i disable secureboot I think i am basically locked out of my system
[19:39] <sean_1> i had to re-enable it earlier
[19:39] <ioria> sean_1,  damn
[19:40] <sean_1> ioria: I have both of those installed too
[19:40] <sean_1> reinstall?
[19:40] <loskutak> ioria: I thing that the issue was nvidia-367 trying to call systemctl (on 14.04.5). It seems weird, but maybe? Anyway after installing only nvidia-340 everything started to work again. Even managed to get bumblebee back :)
[19:40] <ioria> sean_1,  no you purged it, don't you ?
[19:40] <sean_1> ioria: no, I'm afraid :)
[19:40] <sean_1> will using --reinstall be OK too
[19:41] <ioria> loskutak,  interesting
[19:41] <ioria> sean_1,  nope
[19:41] <sean_1> ioria: ok what was the purge command
[19:41] <ioria> sean_1,  sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[19:41] <sean_1> ioria: alright
[19:42] <sean_1> ioria: should i write down the stuff getting removed
[19:42] <sean_1> ioria: or is it all under some package
[19:42] <akik> loskutak: the same thing happened to me just today on kubuntu 14.04, but the nvidia version that works is nvidia-352
[19:42] <ioria> sean_1,  well, ... nope
[19:43] <sean_1> ioria: nope to what. should i just like, take a photo then and then remove
[19:43] <sean_1> i've done that before
[19:43] <sean_1> yeah i think i will do that just in case i mess anything up here
[19:43] <ioria> sean_1,  purge ... them or are obsolete pkgs, or depends on nvidia that we'll reinstall
[19:44] <sean_1> ioria: right. some are obsolete i think, like 352 instead of 367.
[19:44] <ioria> sean_1,  'The Purge'
[19:44] <sean_1> ioria: lol. i have a paper due tomorrow, let's hope my prof. extends the due date...
[19:45] <loskutak> akik: (,ioria) well I have tried nvidia-352, but it seems to install 367... apt-cache policy nvidia-352 gives only candidate - version 367.57... I really don't understand why... it seems quite wrong to me
[19:45] <backbox> hey
[19:45] <sean_1> honestly even if this didn't happen idk if i would be able to finish it :/
[19:45] <ioria> sean_1,  well, you can also install anothe DE, that will work , like lubuntu-desktop
[19:45] <freddish> Does anyone know a program that downloads music from spotify ?. Not to offline version. But simply downloads all the songs i want from there ?.
[19:45] <sean_1> ioria: really? the thing that's the problem is that libgl thing
[19:46] <sean_1> ioria: not necessarily pantheon
[19:46] <sean_1> anyways, the purge has occurred, reinstall nvidia-367 and nvidia-optimus first, yes?
[19:46] <ioria> sean_1, you should really talk to the elemenary guys  :)
[19:47] <ioria> sean_1, dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[19:47] <sean_1> ioria: they aren't saying anything:(
[19:47] <ioria> sean_1, dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[19:47] <sean_1> there's only 70 of them ;( and ok ok
[19:47]  * loskutak is never ever going to buy a laptop with optimus again!
[19:47] <sean_1> ioria: i got no output from that
[19:47] <sean_1> loskutak: probably a good idea, this is an optimus laptop :P
[19:48] <ioria> sean_1,  reboot
[19:48] <sean_1> ioria: with no nvidia pckgs eh...ok then
[19:48] <ioria> loskutak, yeah, could be a pain
[19:48] <katt> good evening everyone, i have a problem with my wireless. it keeps disconnecting intermittently. i got a wireless dongle and it doesn't seem to be handling ubuntu very well.
[19:48] <sean_1> i just have the laptop that is having errors right now use one card at a time, and i can switch if i want.
[19:49] <sean_1> HOLY SHIT IT WORKED
[19:49] <sean_1> thank you thank you thank you
[19:49] <sean_1> now the big question is: do i need the nvidia back
[19:49] <ioria> sean_1,  i knew you have said that
[19:49] <sean_1> ioria: ohhhh
[19:49] <sean_1> i can't actually get in
[19:50] <sean_1> i have the login page now and when i login it just takes me back
[19:50] <loskutak> ioria: the only issues (and oh so painful!) I have ever had since using linux were optimus related :D
[19:50] <ioria> sean_1, ls -al ~/.Xauthority
[19:50] <loskutak> sean_1: that happened to me today as well... just chown ~.Xauthority
[19:50] <sean_1> ioria: root root
[19:50] <sean_1> uhh, only rw too.
[19:50] <sean_1> loskutak: alrighty
[19:51] <ioria> sean_1,  sudo chown $USER:$USER  ~/.Xauthority
[19:51] <loskutak> welcome home, sean_1 :)
[19:51] <sean_1> probably should not be root yeah, ok dokey
[19:51] <ioria> sean_1,  nope
[19:52] <sean_1> ioria: how was it set back to root? and yippee, my stuff is back!!! thank you very much! i hope you get paid for this!
[19:52] <sean_1> loskutak: thank you! welcome home to you too!
[19:52] <sean_1> linux is ~!
[19:52] <katt> @sean i doubt it
[19:52] <sean_1> :)
[19:52] <ioria> sean_1,  you still don't have nvidia  lspci -k | grep VGA -A 3
[19:53] <katt> @sean_1 ioria is just a lovely person
[19:53] <ioria> yes, i'am *_*
[19:53] <sean_1> ioria: yeah that is right, it is using intel atm
[19:53] <sean_1> with i915
[19:53] <sean_1> katt: agreed ^_^
[19:53] <ioria> sean_1,  do your stuff, and come back for installing nvidia
[19:54] <ioria> gtx are terrible
[19:54] <sean_1> i don't think i ever actually had the card running, just the option to select the card for running.
[19:55] <zteam> I have been having great trouble with Nvidia driver with my 980 GTX card as well
[19:55] <sean_1> like in this penguin window, it was like: do I want high performance, high energy usage (nvidia) or normal performance, better energy usage (intel)
[19:55] <sean_1> that's it
[19:55] <sean_1> my brother's laptop is the same, no nvidia in use there either
[19:55] <zteam> I can't figure out, whatäs wrong with that damn driver
[19:55] <sean_1> but i will definitely come back some time
[19:55] <zteam> :-/
[19:55] <|VAH|-BlueTu> hi
[19:55] <sean_1> oh hey wait a sec nouveau is in use
[19:56] <sean_1> that caused me problems in the past...i hope it doesn't mess me up on reboot
[19:56] <katt> hi vah
[19:56] <|VAH|-BlueTu> does anyone know how to install urbanterror on ubuntu
[19:56] <|VAH|-BlueTu> ??
[19:56] <sean_1> although at this point it probably would have messed things up already lol
[19:57] <zteam> sean_1, from my experiences nouveau is actually more stable than the nvidia driver
[19:57] <|VAH|-BlueTu> bye all
[19:57] <sean_1> zteam: well it actually works with the card, so i suppose the card is old enough for it to work :D
[19:57] <AnonyFox> Is anyone here familiar with !terminator
[19:57] <AnonyFox> !info terminator
[19:59] <sean_1> AnonyFox: try tmux, sounds like the same thing to me
[19:59] <sean_1> ioria: anyways, thank you, looks like nouveu works out ok, time to do some work :D
[19:59] <katt> yay!
[19:59] <ioria> sean_1, graet... come back
[20:00] <AnonyFox> Im already using terminator it works good but i want to change color of it but dunno where the terminator folder is
[20:00] <katt> i guess my wireless works when I keep irc open
[20:00] <katt> i found the solution :P
[20:00] <zteam> sean_1, nouveau works actually great even with my new card a Geforce GTX 980 card, it's not really class-leading performance wise but it defineatly does the job
[20:01] <heijbuk>  hey there!
[20:04] <katt> hi
[20:07] <Brisr> I have a bunch of lines in a text file. From a bash script how can I delete all the lines with a date older than  30 days ago? Sun Nov  6 20:01:36 GMT 2016 "United_States_presidential_election,_2016"
[20:07] <slaffe> my upgrade hangs at:
[20:07] <slaffe> Hanterar utlösare för initramfs-tools (0.122ubuntu8.5) ...
[20:07] <slaffe> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-38-generic
[20:07] <slaffe> doing sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:07] <ioria> Brisr, usually we use sed
[20:08] <wabbits> slaffe does it actually hang or just drop you to a sh?
[20:08] <Brisr> ioria, what would be the command please? I've looked at sed and it melts my brain
[20:09] <ioria> Brisr, can you paste the file ?
[20:09] <Brisr> I wrote with cat ${outputFile} | sed -e "s/^/$(date) /" >> Database.txt
[20:09] <Brisr> example line: Sun Nov  6 20:01:36 GMT 2016 "United_States_presidential_election,_2016"
[20:09] <slaffe> wabbits it stays like this forever, wont drop me back to sh
[20:10] <AnonyFox> Slaffe: Har du testat sudo su apt-get upgrade ?
[20:10] <slaffe> AnonyFox nej
[20:10] <slaffe> This has never happend before tho
[20:10] <Brisr> ioria, I don't care about the time, just days
[20:10] <mifritscher> moin
[20:11] <ioria> Brisr, depends on that file format, i guess
[20:11] <AnonyFox> hmm så ska det ju inte vara. Låter skummt att den hänger sig där
[20:11] <ioria> Brisr, can you paste the file ?
[20:12] <slaffe> nej..
[20:12] <slaffe> Any ideas?
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> mentalt ute av balanse
[20:12] <slaffe> Any way to debug this, to see what is causing it?
[20:12] <Brisr> ioria, It's just a .txt file. All the lines are like this at the moment:
[20:12] <Brisr> Sun Nov  6 20:01:36 GMT 2016 "United_States_presidential_election,_2016"
[20:12] <debkad> o_o
[20:13] <mifritscher> I've a problem with full screen apps since ages (using ubuntu 14.04 and 16.04 and gnome flashback+compiz). they are liked "zoomed in", so I see only 75% if there is other window layered over it (e.g.skype messages or apport)...
[20:13] <mifritscher> I'm using standard intel gpu drivers (have this problem both on 1th and 6th core i generation)
[20:14] <AnonyFox> Slaffe står det någonting konstigt när du kör sudo apt-get update
[20:14] <heijbuk> hey
[20:14] <AnonyFox> Eller hänger den sig bara där du skrev
[20:14] <debkad> wah ki ykhabrak khabarni
[20:15] <OerHeks> guys, english only please, thanks.
[20:15] <AnonyFox> Sorry
[20:16] <Brisr> ioria, http://pastebin.ca/3736943
[20:16] <katt> there it goes again
[20:17] <ioria> Brisr, that't the file ?
[20:17] <Brisr> ioria, yes
[20:17] <RandomNoob> Hello guys. How to copy files between Iphone 6 and Xenial?
[20:17] <ioria> Brisr, and you want to remove what exactly ?
[20:17] <Brisr> it will have a new entry added every day
[20:17] <Brisr> but I only wrote the script today..
[20:19] <Brisr> all the lines that have a date older than 30 days ago
[20:19] <ioria> i see
[20:19] <AnonyFox> is there anyway to read rss feed from ubuntu terminal ?
[20:20] <ioria> Brisr, a pro-futuro script ...
[20:20] <trism> AnonyFox: canto
[20:20] <trism> AnonyFox: oh sorry guess it is gone/renamed since 14.04
[20:21] <nbastin> ugh, welcome to systemd where apparently integration with other unix systems on your network is something you should never do...
[20:21] <ni1s> Does anyone know is there's ppa for the AMDGPU-PRO drivers?
[20:23] <ThePotato> how do i force change of password even if it is to short
[20:24] <EriC^> ThePotato: sudo
[20:24] <EriC^> sudo passwd <user>
[20:24] <ThePotato> thanks
[20:24] <ThePotato> also
[20:24] <ThePotato> how do i up the permissions to root
[20:24] <ioria> Brisr, well, you check the actual 'date' , you calculate 30 days in the paste ,  grep the interval   and with regex  remove the match
[20:25] <EriC^> ThePotato: what do you mean?
[20:25] <ThePotato> how do i up the permissions of the user to root
[20:25] <ThePotato> without having to sudo 24/7 and without sudo -i
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> ThePotato  so you want to disable password security?
[20:26] <ThePotato> no
[20:26] <ThePotato> i want to up the permission level to where i dont have to sudo evertime its necessar
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> ThePotato  that's disabling security
[20:27] <ThePotato> sure
[20:27] <ThePotato> nvm
[20:27] <EriC^> ThePotato: you can't
[20:28] <EriC^> well you can, but there's another way that's easy
[20:28] <EriC^> you can make sudo not ask for a password
[20:28] <Village> i faced with problem:/ how i can run putty tunnel to ubuntu server, and from that tunnel connect that be ubuntu server ip?
[20:30] <archer121> hi, I just need to ask. So are packages still available for download via apt for 14.10? What is canonical's policy on that?
[20:30] <Brisr> ioria, OK sounds complex but i'll give it a go
[20:31] <ioria> Brisr, like this:  date -d '30 days ago'
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> archer121  there's this http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[20:32] <Brisr> ioria, great, so that gives the start, now sed somehow?
[20:33] <obelix_Nando> hi there
[20:33] <katt> hi
[20:34] <obelix_Nando> is some one using kvm an guest windows
[20:34] <obelix_Nando> if yes do youknow some way to manage the memory allocation??
[20:34] <ioria> Brisr, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8399493/is-there-a-way-to-delete-all-log-entries-in-a-file-older-than-a-certain-date-b
[20:35] <ioria> Brisr,  H or T ... depends on it
[20:35] <obelix_Nando> i mean i have both linux and windowsas guests OS but windows take all the ram assigned every time
[20:35] <obelix_Nando> as show virt-manager statics
[20:35] <nbastin> obelix_Nando: well yes if you give an HVM a certain amount of ram, it will always be allocated
[20:36] <obelix_Nando> nbastin: yes but the linux guests just take ram more as demand
[20:36] <obelix_Nando> not all at once
[20:37] <nbastin> obelix_Nando: yes they are PVM
[20:37] <nbastin> obelix_Nando: windows is not (even PV windows can't slush ram)
[20:37] <obelix_Nando> ahhhhh
[20:37] <nbastin> obelix_Nando: and so the VM is always allocated the ram when it boots (all of it)
[20:37] <Brisr> ioria, thanks taking a look
[20:37] <ioria> Brisr,  ok
[20:38] <obelix_Nando> nbastin: thank you understand
[20:38] <nbastin> obelix_Nando: it's a sortof unfortunate problem but hard to fix
[20:38] <obelix_Nando> there is no way for force windows to manage more deficiency the memory??
[20:39] <obelix_Nando> i mean the ballon driver is not a way for do it??
[20:39] <nbastin> obelix_Nando: not KVM probably (I'm not sure I don't track it as closely) - Xen can do that with a balloon driver
[20:39] <bekks> obelix_Nando: And whats the problem with the RAM allocation strategy in detail?
[20:39] <nbastin> obelix_Nando: it still onyl gets shared among VMs (not back to the system)
[20:40] <nbastin> But ballooning is risky in general, so you have to consider how much risk you're willing to incur
[20:40] <obelix_Nando> nbastin: i want to run more VM's that my physical ram support
[20:41] <obelix_Nando> so i need overcommit it, i just try in my lab
[20:41] <nbastin> obelix_Nando: sure and that's reasonable in general, but with windows it's more difficult
[20:41] <bekks> obelix_Nando: that wont work out good, in general.
[20:41] <nbastin> obelix_Nando: there are PV drivers for windows that can help
[20:41] <obelix_Nando> yeap
[20:41] <nbastin> obelix_Nando: CItrix maintains a bunch for Xen, I dunno who maintains ones for kvm (although I think they exist)
[20:42] <obelix_Nando> i don't know about
[20:42] <archer121> MonkeyDust: Thanx!
[20:42] <obelix_Nando> is good information thank you a lot
[20:42] <nbastin> for linux I might be willing to do a 4:1+ overcommit, depending on your workloads - for windows it's hard to go over 1.5:1 without being damn sure what you're running
[20:43] <obelix_Nando> nbastin: nice
[20:43] <nbastin> obelix_Nando: with PV on windows you could push it pretty high if they're all the *same* windows
[20:45] <obelix_Nando> nbastian: wow is exactly the thing i need!!
[20:45] <nbastin> obelix_Nando: just build a windows with no balloon, install PV drivers, and then save that image
[20:46] <nbastin> obelix_Nando: then you can copy that for new windows vms
[20:46] <obelix_Nando> nbastin: :D very nice!!!
[20:52] <Guest51424> Looking for help with xzoom.  seems ot be malfunctioning.
[20:55] <ziggy> Test
[20:58] <Lostfile> hey is it better to compress your log files or is it better to just leave it in a folder
[20:59] <Lostfile> or some how disable logging
[20:59] <Lostfile> and just dont log at all
[21:01] <delinquentme> i have avr dude here: ~/Documents/Arduino.app/Contents/Java/hardware/tools/avr/bin/avrdude
[21:01] <delinquentme> I want to open any terminal window... and have access to that using just $avrdude
[21:02] <delinquentme> how do i set this namespace?
[21:02] <delinquentme> using PATH?
[21:08] <MrSassyPants> Is there some way I can change boot order, i.e. I want X to be started after all the other things are started
[21:08] <MrSassyPants> and not in parallel / before
[21:08] <MrSassyPants> some services aren't quite up when X has loaded and it's causing some minor convenience issues
[21:10] <ikonia> MrSassyPants: that seems unlikley
[21:10] <ikonia> systemd will have depends on things that are needed
[21:10] <MrSassyPants> ikonia, ok, how do I make systemd start the x stuff after everything else
[21:10] <ikonia> MrSassyPants: why
[21:10] <MrSassyPants> because.
[21:11] <ikonia> the systemd unit files will have depends for the right things/orders
[21:11] <ikonia> don't mess with it unless there is a genuine reason
[21:11] <MrSassyPants> whats the one for the X stuff
[21:11] <ikonia> it's not "one"
[21:11] <ikonia> again - don't mess with this unless you have a real reason
[21:11] <MrSassyPants> some services are not done loading by the time X is loading
[21:11] <RandomNoob> Guys my question is can I use 2 network connections at the same time for better speed? I have laptop connected to 1 wifi router and I have an Android phone connected to other wifi router tethering internet with usb.
[21:11] <MrSassyPants> or rather, by the time X is done loading.
[21:11] <ikonia> MrSassyPants: again, that seems unlikley due to depends
[21:12] <ikonia> RandomNoob: no
[21:12] <MrSassyPants> I don't give a damn how likely it is.
[21:12] <ikonia> RandomNoob: it doesn't work like that
[21:12] <ikonia> MrSassyPants: what services are failing to start that are causing you a problem
[21:12] <RandomNoob> ikonia: How it does?
[21:12] <ikonia> RandomNoob: just use the fastest connection,
[21:13] <MrSassyPants> specifically, my rc.start or what was it, takes a few seconds more than X needs to load into the DE
[21:13] <ikonia> MrSassyPants: but what services in that
[21:13] <RandomNoob> ikonia: That is not an answer.
[21:13] <MrSassyPants> specifically, a custom script to load an encrypted harddrive
[21:14] <ikonia> MrSassyPants: so the logical thing would be to put a depend on X on that
[21:14] <ikonia> RandomNoob: it is
[21:14] <ikonia> RandomNoob: what info do you need ?
[21:14] <MrSassyPants> ikonia, and where do I do that
[21:14] <OerHeks> systemd-analyze plot > filename.svg # for a nice boot log
[21:15] <ikonia> MrSassyPants: so the unit file for RC.local service, put a depend in on the window manager (lxdm normally)
[21:16] <MrSassyPants> ikonia, ok, it is not lxdm. I'm running kubuntu specifically, but theres no file /etc/init.d/kdm either
[21:16] <MrSassyPants> is it lightdm?
[21:16] <ikonia> MrSassyPants: ok, so kdm
[21:17] <ikonia>  /etc/init.d is not used for init scripts any more
[21:17] <MrSassyPants> argh
[21:17] <ikonia> it's systemd, hence why I say the unit files
[21:17] <MrSassyPants> what is then
[21:17] <ikonia> have a quick google of systemd unit files
[21:17] <ikonia> the top hits normally have a nice clear graphical layout overview which explains better than words
[21:18] <romgen> hey, does anyone know what happened to wpa-supplicant in 16.04? I can't find docs how wifi works in 16.04 without wpa-supplicant
[21:18] <MrSassyPants> ikonia, um no
[21:19] <MrSassyPants> ikonia, ok I'd rather not work myself into the damn layout and concept of systemd, is there a graphical ui for that?
[21:20] <ikonia> MrSassyPants: sadly no
[21:20] <ikonia> MrSassyPants: if you want a dirty fix, you can move the script you run out of rc.local and put it in the desktop laumcher
[21:20] <ikonia> so it launches as the desktop comes up, rather than the system
[21:20] <ikonia> gnome supports it, and I'm pretty sure from memory kde does
[21:20] <MrSassyPants> ikonia, wouldn't that be the opposite of what I'd want
[21:21] <ikonia> MrSassyPants: sorry, yes
[21:21] <OerHeks> !info systemd-ui
[21:21] <OerHeks> there is
[21:21] <MrSassyPants> thanks OerHeks
[21:21] <ikonia> OerHeks: have you found that every works ?
[21:21] <ikonia> in terms of ability to actually manage the unit files
[21:24] <OerHeks> ikonia, not really, most changes i do are manually
[21:24] <MrSassyPants> OerHeks, systemd-ui isn't the actual programs name, do you happen to know what is?
[21:25] <ikonia> OerHeks: yeah, everyone I see uses i it screws the files
[21:25] <OerHeks> but this booting issue wth a script that mounts an encrypted disk, after starting x/login, just sit back and wait.
[21:26] <MrSassyPants> OerHeks, look the issue is that various programs autostart (such as this very IRC) and they give me errors because the disk hasn't finished loading
[21:26] <ikonia> various ?
[21:26] <MrSassyPants> everything I had open.
[21:26] <ikonia> why does IRC care about an encypted disk ?
[21:26] <ikonia> why not put it in the fstab
[21:26] <MrSassyPants> Because it sends my logfiles there
[21:26] <ikonia> then it will mount at file system time
[21:27] <MrSassyPants> I could, but I used to have the disk in a different computer and don't want it in fstab like that
[21:27] <ikonia> why not ?
[21:27] <ikonia> what's the problem putting it in the fstab
[21:28] <OerHeks> one solution for this sensitive storage, don't autorun various programs
[21:28] <MrSassyPants> why is it so hard to make X start after rclocalstart
[21:28] <MrSassyPants> OerHeks, ludicrous
[21:28] <al2o3-cr> MrSassyPants: systemadm
[21:29] <ikonia> MrSassyPants: it's not hard, it just requires you to manipulate systemd
[21:29] <MrSassyPants> OerHeks, autorunning the exact desktop as I shat down is great
[21:29] <MrSassyPants> same with firefox - same tabs open as when I closed it
[21:29] <ikonia> MrSassyPants: whats the problem putting the disk in fstab
[21:29] <MrSassyPants> ikonia, whats the problem making X start after rclocalstart
[21:29] <ikonia> MrSassyPants: there isn't - however updating fstab will be easier for you
[21:30] <ikonia> MrSassyPants: and it starts very early in the process
[21:30] <ikonia> MrSassyPants: is there a problem putting it in fstab ?
[21:30] <MrSassyPants> ikonia, for reasons
[21:30] <ikonia> MrSassyPants: such as ?
[21:30] <MrSassyPants> reasons.
[21:30] <ikonia> come on
[21:30] <ikonia> what's the problem
[21:30] <MrSassyPants> it does not belong in fstab.
[21:30] <ikonia> why ?
[21:31] <Lostfile> cuz MrSassyPants said so
[21:31] <MrSassyPants> exactly
[21:31] <ikonia> not really
[21:31] <MrSassyPants> yes really.
[21:31] <ikonia> you're asking for help - we are pointing you at the proper way to do things
[21:31] <ikonia> if you won't share info - or take a stance that "because I said so" then you're on your own
[21:32] <ikonia> if you have reasons that a real, it's important to understand them so we can offer useful help
[21:32] <MrSassyPants> The proper way to do it in this case is not to put it in the fstab, but to ensure x is started only after rclocalstart has completed.
[21:32] <OerHeks> I think you have been answered, mounting encrypted disk require some choises, don't  use it before mounting.
[21:32] <ikonia> MrSassyPants: no, it's not
[21:32] <ikonia> unless you can explain why thats a problem
[21:32] <MrSassyPants> your system - your rules
[21:32] <ikonia> as there are usecases where it would not be right
[21:33] <MrSassyPants> my system - my rules
[21:33] <ikonia> MrSassyPants: ok - your system your rules, my help my rules
[21:33] <MrSassyPants> k
[21:34] <MrSassyPants> al2o3-cr, does systemadm allow to specify ordering? I'm looking at it right now
[21:34] <al2o3-cr> MrSassyPants: don't know never used it
[21:35] <MrSassyPants> I see
[21:37] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
[21:37] <danng> anyone on that can assist me with a massive crisis ive created
[21:37] <ikonia> danng: we don't know until you explain the problem
[21:38] <danng> i tried to install android x86 to my Lubuntu Mate 16.04 Xenial Xerus hardrive to switch distros completely and wound up formatting grub 1 and 2 bootloaders
[21:39] <ikonia> grub 1 and 2 ?
[21:39] <danng> this is not a dual boot system, ive wiped grub
[21:39] <bogamol> So here is a good one. Wife's computer types 'v' when you press either 'v' or 'b' among other weird duplicate letters. She can't log in.
[21:39] <bogamol> n and m both input m as well
[21:39] <ikonia> !grub2 > danng
[21:40] <loskutak> bogamol, does your wife know you did it? :D
[21:40] <ikonia> danng: ubottu has just sent you a pm with a guide on how to replace grub2
[21:40] <MrSassyPants> Ok, for future reference: the correct solution was to append rc-local.service to the After= Line in /lib/systemd/system/lightdm.service
[21:40] <OerHeks> dirty keyboard, bogamol
[21:40] <danng> i dont know how to see private messages
[21:40] <ikonia> MrSassyPants: exactly what I told you, put a depend in the launcher
[21:40] <bogamol> I'm currently blaming the kids, loskutak. ;P
[21:40] <MrSassyPants> stop whining ikonia
[21:40] <ikonia> danng: a new tab should have opened from the user ubottu
[21:40] <ikonia> MrSassyPants: I'm not whining at all
[21:41] <danng> no new tabs?
[21:41] <ikonia> hang on
[21:41] <ikonia> !grub2 | danng
[21:41] <ikonia> there you go
[21:41] <danng> ill take a look thanks
[21:42] <bogamol> looks like I'll have to disassemble the whole thing then. nuts.
[21:53] <mifritscher> I've a problem with full screen apps since ages (using ubuntu 14.04 and 16.04 and gnome flashback+compiz). they are liked "zoomed in", so I see only 75% if there is other window layered over it (e.g.skype messages or apport)...
[21:53] <mifritscher> I'm using standard intel gpu drivers (have this problem both on 1th and 6th core i generation)
[22:08] <exu77> alguem fala portugues ai
[22:08] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[22:17] <breezy_> hey guys, im trying to install ubuntu... right  now i have WIN7... and i can't see the option to enter BIOS. there's no "del/F12"
[22:17] <breezy_> I'm trying to boot from USB.... not sure if its the monitor or keyboard not registering
[22:17] <breezy_> but they both work afterboot
[22:18] <ZoderUck> hi
[22:18] <exu77> nem sei como entrei aqui
[22:18] <breezy_> hi
[22:19] <breezy_> can anyone please help
[22:19] <decco> Breezy, i would look up the make and model to be sure of the versions., also some older computers do need alternitive application to anable a "usb boot"
[22:20] <breezy_> my computer is pretty new
[22:20] <breezy_> and its an expensive desktop
[22:20] <breezy_> i've formatted it before many many times
[22:21] <breezy_> is there anyway i can get into the bios via cmd prompt
[22:21] <Bashing-om> breezy_: Each and every manufacturer implements how to access their bios different . What machine is this ? Perhaps someone here has similar and can advise.
[22:21] <breezy_> or just change the booting priority at least
[22:21] <breezy_> u want the mobo?
[22:21] <breezy_> gigabyteh97
[22:26] <breezy_> can anyone please help me
[22:26] <breezy_> i really need this install
[22:27] <akik> breezy_: try f2 to go into the bios
[22:27] <breezy_> screen goes black
[22:28] <breezy_> when i dont press anything the computer boots like normal to desktop
[22:28] <akik> breezy_: how about esc ?
[22:28] <Bashing-om> breezy_: This one : https://www.manualslib.com/manual/692847/Gigabyte-Ga-Z97-D3h.html?page=32 : says 'del' key to enter Bios, or F12 to select a boot device .
[22:28] <decco> breezy, i will bet using "del" right after the computer is hard booted. that only ensures you first guess.
[22:28] <breezy_> all of that the screen will just go back
[22:29] <breezy_> there's no option for del/f2/f12
[22:29] <breezy_> im jamming all those keys
[22:29] <breezy_> screen just goes back
[22:29] <breezy_> black*
[22:29] <decco> Take the usb medium out of the port then try.
[22:29] <Hilikus> how can i enable thumbnails for videos in Files in ubuntu 14.04?
[22:29] <Hilikus> sorry, i meant 16.04
[22:30] <breezy_> i took USB out and im jamming the keys.... now my screen is just black
[22:31] <decco> use the reset jumper on the board specified in the documentation, dont forget the grounding braclet and the "unmagnitized screwdriver."
[22:33] <decco> also very probable to check all ram and physical drive connections stoping post from completing the boot process
[22:33] <breezy_> the ram and physical connections would be fine because the computer works fine right
[22:33] <breezy_> if ram configs were off it wouldnt allow me to go to desktop
[22:33] <breezy_> right
[22:35] <breezy_> im so frustrated
[22:36] <decco> im not understanding if you have a working configuration, are the bios paused and preventing all function? no matter the state of the usb connection regardless.
[22:37] <Bashing-om> breezy_: There is but a small window for bios to recognize a key is pressed . reboot, and as soon as the bios screen appears try - for instance - spamming the 'del' key ??
[22:38] <decco> i like hold "TAB" to show post vErBoS
[22:38] <breezy_> lol inknow that
[22:38] <breezy_> i fixed the problem
[22:38] <breezy_> it was really tricky
[22:38] <Hilikus> how can i enable thumbnails for videos in Files in ubuntu 16.04?
[22:38] <Hilikus> or nautilus
[22:39] <breezy_> i was plugging in my DVI cable into the port for my MOBO.... so i didnt get the boot screen registering
[22:39] <breezy_> but when i plugged it into the socket with my videocard/graphixcard i now see the boot menu
[22:39] <breezy_> that's so tricky
[22:40] <decco> That too is also a bios setting, "allowing and external video card"
[22:41] <breezy_> lol but u can only configure that once you're in BIOS?
[22:41] <decco> And yes would need a "working" DVI connection to the "right" video slot.
[22:42] <breezy_> the dvi cable was working, just not upon bootup if that makes sense
[22:42] <breezy_> it would just go straight to desktop... so even if u are in bios u cant see it
[22:44] <decco> My link, only specified a few gigabyte type mother boards
[22:44] <breezy_> anyways thx for the help guys
[22:44] <decco> and a vast array of OTHERS.
[22:45] <Bashing-om> breezy_: :) sometimes all it takes is someone to hold your hand .
[22:45] <breezy_> lol
[22:45] <breezy_> its frustrating because i was specifically switching to ubuntu for python development
[22:52] <decco> if i might add.
[22:52] <decco> very nice, basic usage of irssi. Great
[22:55] <zerothis1> A game me errors about 32-bit opengl (i'm using a 64-bit installation) so I installed 32-bit mesa packages. Now opengl does not work at all.
[22:56] <astudent> hi
[22:56] <astudent> can someone help me? want to know if i have to update my kernel 13.02
[22:57] <astudent> to the latest one
[22:58] <astudent> hi there
[22:59] <zerothis1> astudent: if an app says it needs it and you want to use that app. Otherwise, nothing forces you to update anything. This is Linux, not Windows
[23:00] <astudent> thxs have some truble ith my acer hardware... like brightness don't know if the kernel can do the job
[23:01] <astudent> zerothis1 thxs i have some trouble with my acer hardware... like brightness don't know if the kernel can do the job
[23:01] <zerothis1> astudent: well, updating probably would not hurt. But I wouldn't know about fixing brightness
[23:02] <decco> getting to know the apt-get CLI would help both of you
[23:02] <astudent> so i will give it a shoot
[23:02]  * loskutak takes note of the names of people saying that updating probably would not hurt :D
[23:03] <astudent> hahhaa
[23:04] <decco> passing the command "man help" will help remove and install all updates, auto remove and listing uneeded packages will help lead to a few answers in my guess
[23:04] <decco> "man apt"   #: man apt
[23:04] <astudent> some people have some trouble with the new kernel
[23:04] <Bashing-om> Acer, Look at the DSDT " "sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows" and identify the latest Windows version listed. then we see about an adjustment .
[23:05] <Bashing-om> astudent: ^^
[23:06] <astudent> a list of things 2012 mostly
[23:08] <astudent> Bashing-om 2012 2001 sp1 and sp2 etc
[23:09] <Bashing-om> astudent: Try a one time boot parameter - "acpi_osi=Windows 2012 " Be VERY careful and SURROUND the ENTIRE parameter with double quote marks. Where 2012 is the latest version in the list .
[23:09]  * decco status
[23:12] <astudent> Bashing-om "command not found"
[23:12] <breezy_> guys, i find it annoying to have to type in my password everytime in ubuntu.... is there anyway to take that off?
[23:12] <Bashing-om> astudent: That is to make an edit to the boot directives from grub .  Are you familiar ?
[23:13] <astudent> Bashing-om can do it i guess
[23:13] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | astudent
[23:14] <nbastin> why nomodeset is not always set on server, I have no idea.. :-/
[23:14] <Bashing-om> astudent: instead of inserting nomodeset as the boot parameter .. make it "acpi_osi=Windows 2012 " .
[23:15] <astudent> ok
[23:15] <Bashing-om> astudent: If and when we find the paranete4r that works here . then we make THAT parameter permanent .
[23:16] <Brisr> How do I grep file2 for the contents of file 1  (File 1 is a single string)
[23:16] <nbastin> Brisr: for this limited case, grep $(cat file1) file2
[23:17] <astudent> ok im on it like a tortule
[23:17] <nbastin> but that's not going to work in more complicated cases
[23:17] <nbastin> (or possibly if that single string is very long)
[23:17] <Brisr> nbastin, thanks will tru
[23:17] <Brisr> try
[23:18] <Bashing-om> astudent: Once ya done it a time or two .. nuthin to it .
[23:19] <energizer> How high is a reasonable Load Average on a 4 core machine?
[23:20] <energizer> trying to load it, but not overly
[23:20] <nbastin> energizer: well, anything less than 4 is totally fine
[23:20] <nbastin> energizer: depending on architecture and scheduler....20 might be pushing it
[23:20] <nbastin> I mean if you make really bad choices 8 is pushing it
[23:20] <energizer> nbastin: if its above 4 for a long time, will it crash?
[23:21] <nbastin> or if you expect some kind of RT behaviour
[23:21] <nbastin> energizer: no
[23:21] <nbastin> energizer: it'll just service processes more slowly
[23:21] <nbastin> energizer: but a given load average will never crash a machine
[23:22] <nbastin> you could go to like 1000 and barely be able to use the terminal, but the machine wills till be working
[23:22] <energizer> nbastin: ya i messed something up an hour ago, hit 1000 and coulnt use the terminal
[23:23] <nbastin> energizer: yeah I mean once you get to 200x cores you start to have real responsiveness problems on the terminal.. :-)
[23:23] <nbastin> energizer: and usually that's an indication of perhaps something ELSE is wrong, but the load in and of itself is not a problem
[23:23] <nbastin> but if you have some runaway process that is forking and always creating new processes, that's a problem
[23:24] <energizer> nbastin: ya i think i created 1000 threads or something
[23:25] <astudent> Bashing-om i have made it in the command line not in the grub file with " "acpi_osi="Windows 2012" " but no adjustment to the brightness possible
[23:25] <nbastin> astudent: you can't use that at the command line (unless you mean you edited the kernel load line by hand)
[23:25] <nbastin> it has to be fed as kernel parameter at boot time
[23:27] <astudent> cant find the grub.cong
[23:27] <astudent> grub.conf
[23:28] <debkad> sudo find / -name "grub.conf"
[23:28] <nbastin> astudent: you probably want to edit either /etc/defaults/grub, or something in /etc/grub.d/
[23:28] <debkad> 40_custom
[23:30] <Bashing-om> astudent: What you want to do is as the system boots .. make that adjustment to the DSDT .. that must be done in grub . Once we have something as the boot parameter that works . then we make it permanent .
[23:31] <fuzzybear3965> I installed this as both a system and user service and I get the following errors when installed as a system service.
[23:32] <fuzzybear3965> Ope sorry.
[23:33] <fuzzybear3965> The following python script is failing to run as as service.
 http://pastebin.com/T4sJ0Qw8
 Any ideas?
[23:33] <fuzzybear3965> * plumps has quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
 Service file: http://pastebin.com/02uDwrwY .
 I installed this as both a system and user service and I get the following errors
 i have inserted the line in the grub file. i have to reboot now?
[23:41] <nbastin> astudent: depending on where you put it you may need to update-grub2 (or update-grub if your OS is quite old)
[23:41] <Bashing-om> astudent: If it is inserted in the line that starts with linux ... then yes , key combo ctl+x will continue the boot process using that boot parameter .
[23:43] <Bashing-om> nbastin: astudent What we are doing here is testing . see what boot option for that Acer is needed . one time boot from grub kinda thing .
[23:43] <nbastin> Bashing-om: sure, except he's not editing the boot screen from what I can tell
[23:44] <Bashing-om> nbastin: Yah.. likely .. so we keep mudging till that happems .. "give a man a fish" .
[23:44] <Bashing-om> nudging*
[23:45] <Loshki> give a man an fdisk...
[23:45] <nbastin> and watch him destroy his data?
[23:45] <astudent> Bashing-om: i understand waht's the point. But thee is no line that starts with linux on my grub default file. i pouted it in a line without hashtug
[23:46] <nbastin> astudent: yes, bashing-om means for you to edit this file as part of the boot sequence, except he didn't bother to tell you how to do that
[23:46] <nbastin> astudent: so you edited the file on your filesystem before you booted
[23:46] <nbastin> astudent: the grub files on your filesystem are used to *create* the combined file that is used at boot, but do not look the same
[23:46] <Bashing-om> astudent: Yhe 1st thing is to get that grub menu . Now how to get it depends on the type of system . EFI ( new stuff ) or older (MBR) ??
[23:47] <astudent> Bashing-om: EFI
[23:48] <nbastin> astudent: if you get a menu for a few seconds on boot (by default 2 seconds I think) that gives you options to choose from (but which you just let go through by default), instead you want to hit "e" when you get that menu
[23:48] <astudent> nbastin: you ar right i havent done some work on my linux for a wyl so am redescovering
[23:48] <nbastin> (instead of just letting it go through)
[23:48] <Bashing-om> astudent: K.. reboot, and as soon as the firnware screen clears, spam the escape key . There is but a 3 second window of oportunity here . Let me know when you are at the grub boot menu .
[23:48] <john52_> hi guys
[23:49] <nbastin> once you hit "e" you'll get the distilled grub file, and there will be a line near that bottom that has "linux" and then a path
[23:49] <nbastin> after the path there will be options (possibly none, possibly stuff like "ro" and "quiet")
[23:49] <john52_> if i want to check virus in file once i downloaded from Internet
[23:49] <nbastin> astudent: you want to add your options after the kernel path on that linux line
[23:50] <nbastin> john52_: you provide that file to a virus checking application?
[23:50] <astudent> gar it the man remember :D
[23:50] <john52_> nbastin, I know but which cmd in Ubuntu ?
[23:50] <nbastin> john52_: ubuntu has no virus checker app installed by default, so...no command
[23:50] <nbastin> john52_: if you installed something, that program will tell you how to do it
[23:51] <SerialDev> i would think it odd if ubuntu DID have a virus checker
[23:52] <nbastin> it would help, maybe then NTP and things would get stopped before they go off the rails
[23:53] <SerialDev> viruses are an MS Windows problem, not a computer problem
[23:53] <nbastin> that's...hilariously naive
[23:54] <SerialDev> there's other types of malware besides 'viruses'
[23:54] <nbastin> except of course not hilarious, because it is a real problem that people ignore and the rest of us suffer for
[23:54] <john52_> No i want to install that file in mobile device ..
[23:54] <nbastin> first, viruses *can* (and have) existed on unix systems
[23:54] <john52_> i wonder if it opens a backend after installing it .
[23:54] <nbastin> second, anti-virus covers more than just what you might call a "virus" in 1997...
[23:54] <SerialDev> it's a real problem?  i've never had a malware or virus problem unless i was running windows
[23:55] <nbastin> The vast majority of botnet compromised systems are in fact not runnign windows
[23:55] <debkad> may be you have some but you don't know yet
[23:55] <nbastin> call them viruses, worms, trojans, whatever, we pay the same
[23:56] <nbastin> I prefer not to dwell on semantics to pretend there isn't a problem
[23:56] <SerialDev> the last ddos attack was done by imbedded camera systems running a stripped down version of linux
[23:56] <nbastin> SerialDev: no, that was just one small piece of it
[23:56] <SerialDev> that major one about a week ago that took down some major sites
[23:56] <nbastin> it was hardly all of it
[23:57] <nbastin> the mirai botnet does prefer embedded consumer devices for sure
[23:57] <SerialDev> so what other systems did they hijack?
[23:57] <nbastin> but it also leverages a lot of previously known amplification attacks
[23:57] <nbastin> like every broken NTP client on linux hosts...
[23:58] <FManTropyx> why doesn't Ubuntu print characters?
[23:58] <nbastin> (because linux distributions continue to resist shipping a client-only implementation of NTP, for reasons passing understanding)
[23:58] <debkad> weird question
[23:58] <nbastin> FManTropyx: print characters?
[23:59] <Bashing-om> ashimema: How ya doing ? Got the grub boot menu yet ?
[23:59] <FManTropyx> I mean, special ones, but still normal, liek German ü
[23:59] <nbastin> this has nothing to do with Ubuntu, but your terminal encoding and locale
[23:59] <FManTropyx> it also happens on web browser
[23:59] <Beng_Beng> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3ZsBimsaUc
[23:59] <Beng_Beng> love it
[23:59] <debkad> if the terminal have UTF-8 encoding and your locale is ok then why not