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jbicharobert_ancell: good morning00:54
jbichahow does gnome-software 3.22 look for zesty?00:55
jbichaor good afternoon00:56
robert_ancelljbicha, I haven't looked at it yet...01:02
jbichaI thought since you had pushed a lot of the changed Ubuntu needed into 3.22…01:04
jbichaI haven't looked at it either in several weeks01:04
robert_ancelljbicha, the main stuff is upstream, we just have a few small patches that aren't upstreamable01:05
jbichaare those patches listed somewhere?01:05
jbichaI found it very difficult to try to figure that out from looking at the git repo's01:05
robert_ancelljbicha, no, they're all just merged into the ubuntu branches01:21
jbichaI found it almost impossible to try to figure out the git histories01:33
jbichaI'm used to something similar to a quilt workflow where the patches are clearly separate from upstream01:34
robert_ancelljbicha, I used to maintain them as separate branches but they all got merged together when I wasn't working on it01:37
robert_ancellI think I'll have to manually layer the other patches on top of master01:37
jbichawhen I say "almost impossible", there are hundreds of commits on the wip/ubuntu branch01:39
jbichagit's nice but it allows for very complex workflows for packaging01:40
jbichaanyway, bug 1636945 is the tracking bug01:41
ubot5`bug 1636945 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Update gnome-software to 3.22" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163694501:41
jbichathank you01:42
hikikohello05:58
hikikohappy Monday :-p05:59
dufluhikiko: Yes happy Monday06:37
dufluHappy last Monday of not knowing who is the next US president06:37
dufluHappy last Monday of the circus06:38
hikikoHeh..06:40
hikikoYeah :-/06:40
dufluHmm that sounded less sincere than I meant06:42
desrthappy monday!08:01
desrt+1 duflu08:06
dufluMorning desrt08:06
desrtthis election was supposed to be entertaining... it ended up closer to a mix of "terrifying" and "soul destroying"08:07
flexiondotorgMorning desktopers09:02
Laneymoin moin09:02
flexiondotorgLaney, o/09:02
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davmor2Morning all09:03
hikikoTrevinho, andyrock good morning, compiz doesn't build because of errors in tests did you change anything? (I am on yakkety)09:15
Laneyhi flexiondotorg & davmor209:16
hikikowell, I am fixing it I think it's mostly warnings treated as errors (but lots of warnings :P)09:16
Laneyhow's it going?09:16
Laneyhi hikiko!09:16
hikikohey Laney flexiondotorg davmor2 and desktopers :)09:16
hikikohow are you?09:17
seb128good morning desktopers09:18
hikikohi seb12809:20
desrthi seb, hikiko, Laney09:24
hikikohi desrt09:24
hikikohappy monday :p09:25
desrt:D09:26
seb128hey desrt hikiko Laney09:27
Laneyhi seb128 & desrt!09:27
seb128had a good w.e?09:27
* Laney enjoys the daily n * (n-1) greeting round09:27
desrthello laney!09:28
* desrt adds 1 again09:28
Laneyyes, went up to the north east, saw some fireworks and walked by the river tyne09:28
Laneyit's getting cccccccccccccccold09:28
Laneyespecially up there09:28
* desrt went to jena with mascha to visit a couple of friends09:28
Laneyyou?09:28
Laneyhow's france?09:28
seb128good, cold as well!09:29
* Laney looks up jena09:29
Laneygermany has all these cities i've never heard of09:29
desrtit's full of medium-sized cities09:29
Laneyya09:29
seb128w.e was mostly relaxing09:29
Laneysauna?09:30
seb128no, still have a bit of cold so not this time09:31
Laneythis cold is long lasting :-o09:31
seb128yeah, I'm better though, still sneezing a bit and feeling a bit warm at times but otherwise no major annoyance09:33
seb128it's part of the winter standard pack :p09:33
hikikohere after a weekend of cold and rain we have 24 degrees :p should be winter now...09:33
LaneyO_O09:34
seb128how cold is winter usually around your place?09:34
Laneyit's like 6 max today09:34
hikikothe temperature never goes lower than -6 well, some rare times it does for a few days but that's all09:35
seb1283.8°C outside atm here09:35
hikikowe usually have 0 and below 0 in december and january though09:35
hikikosometimes snow in february09:35
hikikoand then sun, sun, sun...09:36
hikikowell, and sudden rainy days09:37
seb128hehe09:37
Laneygotta grow those olives somehow09:37
hikikohaha09:37
desrtseb128: ubuflu?09:39
seb128desrt, one week delayed but yeah09:42
hikikoor fl-ubuntu depends what happened first: the 16.10 release or the begining of the flu?09:42
hikikowell, question to desktopers: should I top approve myself a branch that fixes compile errors in compiz caused by unused test functions?09:46
hikikoseb128, Laney ?09:46
seb128you can probably get andyrock or Trevinho to do that for you09:48
hikikoseb128, that's what I normally do, I was just wondering if I should leave trunk with compile errors until their day starts or it's fine to merge the fix now (since the fix is just to comment out the unused test functions that break the build)09:53
seb128does it impact on any CI or anything? did you want to set up a landing?09:56
Laneyyou can already start a landing before it's approved if you need to09:57
hikikoseb128, I don't know09:59
hikikoit only breaks when I try to build it locally09:59
hikikohow can I check if it breaks any CI too?10:00
seb128well approving the mp is not going to fix that until you do a landing with the change10:00
hikikoI see10:00
hikikoseb128, is there a way to check if the broken trunk has been landed?10:01
seb128well, if compiz is on CI trunk should be what is in Ubuntu10:02
hikikoI guess that if it has not been landed yet there's no rush I can wait for Trevinho10:02
seb128since things get commited when doing landings10:02
hikikooh10:02
hikikoseb128, so, what do you suggest?10:03
seb128I don't understand the problem10:04
seb128if trunk doesn't build you probably want a landing with your fix10:04
hikikoyeah, what I don't understand for sure is if the users are affected somehow now10:06
seb128define "users"10:06
hikikocompiz has some compile errors but will the users notice it if they don't build the source package?10:06
desrtseb128: get well soon :)10:06
seb128users don't build so are not impacted by build issues10:06
seb128desrt, thanks!10:06
seb128contributors might be10:07
hikikoright10:07
hikikoso, there's no rush to top-approve and land the change?10:07
Trevinhohi seb128/hikiko10:25
hikikohi Trevinho :)10:25
hikikothanks for the reviews10:25
hikikoTrevinho, compiz has some compile errors10:26
hikikojust warning treated as errors10:26
hikikohttps://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/compiz/compiz.fix-compile-errors10:26
Trevinhohikiko: ah, probably something changed under the hood10:26
hikikocould you review this branch?10:26
hikikoyep10:26
Trevinhohikiko: since there has been a landing few days ago.. and in the mean time something might have changed10:27
hikikoI just commented them out in case someone needs to put them back at some point10:27
hikikoyup10:27
hikikoI just didn't know how urgent is that tbh10:27
Trevinhohikiko: well, you can remove them at all...10:27
Trevinhohikiko: bzr history will do the job in case10:27
hikikook give me a minute10:28
seb128hey Trevinho, how are you?10:28
Trevinhoseb128: allright, you? Got a nice we?10:28
seb128relaxing w.e in France indeed!10:28
seb128you?10:28
hikikoTrevinho, fixed10:32
Trevinhohikiko: did you also check that expo branch for further fixes?10:36
hikikonot yet Trevinho I am fixing the moving windows now10:36
hikikobut I couldn't see the gap last time :/ /me was so happy :p I am going to test again10:37
tjaaltonanpok: hi, had a chance to test new libinput yet?12:04
tjaaltonanpok: it's blocking new x-x-i-libinput build12:04
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Laneyubuntu@juju-stg-ue-appstream-back-machine-2:~$ cat /srv/appstream/itworked13:17
Laneyhooray13:17
* Laney weeps13:18
seb128:-)13:18
Laneythat was quite a challenge13:19
* Laney is now a cloud guy13:19
Laneyscrew you desktop13:19
seb128heh!13:19
* seb128 hands some tea for Laney13:19
LaneyI have a celebratory feta & lemon quinoa salad for lunch13:20
seb128sounds good, enjoy ;-)13:20
Laneyneed to write down the hacks first13:20
Laneyso I don't forget them for the real charm13:20
Laney._.13:20
Laneyactually there's just one I think13:21
Laneyk, biab13:25
seb128Laney, have fun!13:25
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andyrockgood "morning"13:45
seb128andyrock, hey ;-) how are you? have a good w.e?13:49
andyrockseb128: yep, enjoying the city13:50
andyrockseb128: what about you?13:50
seb128I'm good thanks, had a quiet and relaxing w.e in France13:50
seb128though my cold is still annoying me a bit at times13:50
andyrockseb128: ubuflu? :/13:52
andyrocki'll be in France next w.e.13:52
andyrock\o/13:53
seb128andyrock, yeah, delayed ubuflu from previous week, I feel better but not still a bit sick/hot at times13:56
seb128andyrock, where in France?13:56
andyrockCarcassone and Narbonne13:57
jbichaseb128: is Sweet5hark still on holiday? I want to rebuild LO for the glew transition but I didn't want to bother if we were just going to get LO 5.2.3 this week anyway14:10
anpoktjaalton: not yet.. I might not get to it today14:11
seb128jbicha, he should be back today according to our hr website14:12
seb128jbicha, unsure he plans to update zesty/started on that, also did you test if it still builds with the current toolchain?14:13
seb128libreoffice tends to start cycle with a round of toolchain issues to sort out14:13
tjaaltonanpok: alright, no worries14:15
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jbichano, I didn't test-build LO yet14:25
* Sweet5hark is back ...14:32
Sweet5harkjbicha: i wouldnt bother with 5.2.3 on zesty if we can avoid it as we should go for LO 5.3.x there is the end. for transitions just go with whatever is in yakkety-security. there is little value in 5.2.3 over that for zesty, if we bump to 5.3.x in the end there anyway.14:36
andyrockbucklespring snap compulsory for next sprint14:59
Sweet5harkandyrock: hah, Ill bring my trusty model m: bucklespring unplugged ftw!15:06
* Laney has a Das Keyboard with Cherry MX Blue (clicky) keys15:09
Laneywe can have a click-off15:10
ricotzjbicha, Sweet5hark, pushed a lo rebuild for zesty to https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+sourcepub/7108855/+listing-archive-extra -- I assume there are several transitions already, at least boost and glew15:18
ogra_Laney, how do yu like it ?15:38
* ogra_ just threw away his CODE after half the switches stopped working right after it ran out of warranty ... 15:39
ogra_i got a vortex pok3r now :)15:39
ogra_(MX brown though ... only mildlly clicky)15:39
Laneyogra_: It's nice, I like the tactileness (if that's a word)15:47
Laneyand the clicking sounds badass :)15:47
LaneyI probably type on the XPS more though15:48
Laneyshould do something about that15:48
ogra_yeah, i never had MX blues ... the clear ones of the CODE were way to heavy for me though15:48
Laneylike use the das keyboard on the xps instead of the external chiclet one I have now15:48
ogra_heh15:48
ogra_my typing is 50/50 XPS/pok33r15:48
ogra_depending oe where i work (the laptop is in the living room)15:49
* Laney has it on a stand next to the desktop normally15:49
xnoxsil2100,16:10
xnoxmake[1]: Entering directory '/<<BUILDDIR>>/storage-framework-0.1+16.10.20160909'16:10
xnoxUnknown distro series zesty16:10
xnoxdebian/rules:21: recipe for target 'override_dh_auto_clean' failed16:10
xnoxin https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/storage-framework/0.1+16.10.20160909-0ubuntu2 what shall i do?16:11
sil2100hm16:11
xnoxit does say bileto something, or maybe that's just a red herring?16:11
sil2100eh, yeah, possibly the bileto_pre_release_hook is badly written or simply outdated, possibly doesn't know what zesty is to handle the packaging for it16:11
sil2100kenvandine: ping16:12
sil2100xnox: I can take a quick look into that, but best if upstream also fixes this upstream16:13
Laneylooks like an upstream thing16:13
Laneyslightly shady at that16:13
sil2100xnox: (the bileto_pre_release_hook is a 'packaging bit' in some Bileto-supported packages, it's run on clean when building the package)16:14
sil2100xnox: yeah, I see their scripts only handle explicit series versions here, would like to coordinate this with them16:16
Laneychrisccoulson / ricotz: what's the right packaging vcs for firefox/zesty (do all releases use the same branch?)?16:47
ricotzLaney, no dedicated one yet, so lp:~mozillateam/firefox/firefox.yakkety16:50
ricotzLaney, https://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam16:50
Laneyricotz: yes I see 99999 branches there16:51
Laneythx16:51
ricotzLaney, the recently changed mature ones are the release ones16:52
LaneyI want to know where to propose a packaging change to for the development release16:52
Laneydon't care about the rest, although if the policy is to have the packaging in sync then that's fine16:53
Laney(assuming the maintainer will take care of that)16:53
* Laney will just use yakkety16:53
bregmaattente, are you coming to the Mir stakeholder review?17:02
attentebregma: sure17:02

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