[00:54] <jbicha> robert_ancell: good morning
[00:55] <jbicha> how does gnome-software 3.22 look for zesty?
[00:56] <jbicha> or good afternoon
[01:02] <robert_ancell> jbicha, I haven't looked at it yet...
[01:04] <jbicha> I thought since you had pushed a lot of the changed Ubuntu needed into 3.22…
[01:04] <jbicha> I haven't looked at it either in several weeks
[01:05] <robert_ancell> jbicha, the main stuff is upstream, we just have a few small patches that aren't upstreamable
[01:05] <jbicha> are those patches listed somewhere?
[01:05] <jbicha> I found it very difficult to try to figure that out from looking at the git repo's
[01:21] <robert_ancell> jbicha, no, they're all just merged into the ubuntu branches
[01:33] <jbicha> I found it almost impossible to try to figure out the git histories
[01:34] <jbicha> I'm used to something similar to a quilt workflow where the patches are clearly separate from upstream
[01:37] <robert_ancell> jbicha, I used to maintain them as separate branches but they all got merged together when I wasn't working on it
[01:37] <robert_ancell> I think I'll have to manually layer the other patches on top of master
[01:39] <jbicha> when I say "almost impossible", there are hundreds of commits on the wip/ubuntu branch
[01:40] <jbicha> git's nice but it allows for very complex workflows for packaging
[01:41] <jbicha> anyway, bug 1636945 is the tracking bug
[01:41] <ubot5`> bug 1636945 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Update gnome-software to 3.22" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1636945
[01:42] <jbicha> thank you
[05:58] <hikiko> hello
[05:59] <hikiko> happy Monday :-p
[06:37] <duflu> hikiko: Yes happy Monday
[06:37] <duflu> Happy last Monday of not knowing who is the next US president
[06:38] <duflu> Happy last Monday of the circus
[06:40] <hikiko> Heh..
[06:40] <hikiko> Yeah :-/
[06:42] <duflu> Hmm that sounded less sincere than I meant
[08:01] <desrt> happy monday!
[08:06] <desrt> +1 duflu
[08:06] <duflu> Morning desrt
[08:07] <desrt> this election was supposed to be entertaining... it ended up closer to a mix of "terrifying" and "soul destroying"
[09:02] <flexiondotorg> Morning desktopers
[09:02] <Laney> moin moin
[09:02] <flexiondotorg> Laney, o/
[09:03] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:15] <hikiko> Trevinho, andyrock good morning, compiz doesn't build because of errors in tests did you change anything? (I am on yakkety)
[09:16] <Laney> hi flexiondotorg & davmor2
[09:16] <hikiko> well, I am fixing it I think it's mostly warnings treated as errors (but lots of warnings :P)
[09:16] <Laney> how's it going?
[09:16] <Laney> hi hikiko!
[09:16] <hikiko> hey Laney flexiondotorg davmor2 and desktopers :)
[09:17] <hikiko> how are you?
[09:18] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[09:20] <hikiko> hi seb128
[09:24] <desrt> hi seb, hikiko, Laney
[09:24] <hikiko> hi desrt
[09:25] <hikiko> happy monday :p
[09:26] <desrt> :D
[09:27] <seb128> hey desrt hikiko Laney
[09:27] <Laney> hi seb128 & desrt!
[09:27] <seb128> had a good w.e?
[09:27]  * Laney enjoys the daily n * (n-1) greeting round
[09:28] <desrt> hello laney!
[09:28]  * desrt adds 1 again
[09:28] <Laney> yes, went up to the north east, saw some fireworks and walked by the river tyne
[09:28] <Laney> it's getting cccccccccccccccold
[09:28] <Laney> especially up there
[09:28]  * desrt went to jena with mascha to visit a couple of friends
[09:28] <Laney> you?
[09:28] <Laney> how's france?
[09:29] <seb128> good, cold as well!
[09:29]  * Laney looks up jena
[09:29] <Laney> germany has all these cities i've never heard of
[09:29] <desrt> it's full of medium-sized cities
[09:29] <Laney> ya
[09:29] <seb128> w.e was mostly relaxing
[09:30] <Laney> sauna?
[09:31] <seb128> no, still have a bit of cold so not this time
[09:31] <Laney> this cold is long lasting :-o
[09:33] <seb128> yeah, I'm better though, still sneezing a bit and feeling a bit warm at times but otherwise no major annoyance
[09:33] <seb128> it's part of the winter standard pack :p
[09:33] <hikiko> here after a weekend of cold and rain we have 24 degrees :p should be winter now...
[09:34] <Laney> O_O
[09:34] <seb128> how cold is winter usually around your place?
[09:34] <Laney> it's like 6 max today
[09:35] <hikiko> the temperature never goes lower than -6 well, some rare times it does for a few days but that's all
[09:35] <seb128> 3.8°C outside atm here
[09:35] <hikiko> we usually have 0 and below 0 in december and january though
[09:35] <hikiko> sometimes snow in february
[09:36] <hikiko> and then sun, sun, sun...
[09:37] <hikiko> well, and sudden rainy days
[09:37] <seb128> hehe
[09:37] <Laney> gotta grow those olives somehow
[09:37] <hikiko> haha
[09:39] <desrt> seb128: ubuflu?
[09:42] <seb128> desrt, one week delayed but yeah
[09:42] <hikiko> or fl-ubuntu depends what happened first: the 16.10 release or the begining of the flu?
[09:46] <hikiko> well, question to desktopers: should I top approve myself a branch that fixes compile errors in compiz caused by unused test functions?
[09:46] <hikiko> seb128, Laney ?
[09:48] <seb128> you can probably get andyrock or Trevinho to do that for you
[09:53] <hikiko> seb128, that's what I normally do, I was just wondering if I should leave trunk with compile errors until their day starts or it's fine to merge the fix now (since the fix is just to comment out the unused test functions that break the build)
[09:56] <seb128> does it impact on any CI or anything? did you want to set up a landing?
[09:57] <Laney> you can already start a landing before it's approved if you need to
[09:59] <hikiko> seb128, I don't know
[09:59] <hikiko> it only breaks when I try to build it locally
[10:00] <hikiko> how can I check if it breaks any CI too?
[10:00] <seb128> well approving the mp is not going to fix that until you do a landing with the change
[10:00] <hikiko> I see
[10:01] <hikiko> seb128, is there a way to check if the broken trunk has been landed?
[10:02] <seb128> well, if compiz is on CI trunk should be what is in Ubuntu
[10:02] <hikiko> I guess that if it has not been landed yet there's no rush I can wait for Trevinho
[10:02] <seb128> since things get commited when doing landings
[10:02] <hikiko> oh
[10:03] <hikiko> seb128, so, what do you suggest?
[10:04] <seb128> I don't understand the problem
[10:04] <seb128> if trunk doesn't build you probably want a landing with your fix
[10:06] <hikiko> yeah, what I don't understand for sure is if the users are affected somehow now
[10:06] <seb128> define "users"
[10:06] <hikiko> compiz has some compile errors but will the users notice it if they don't build the source package?
[10:06] <desrt> seb128: get well soon :)
[10:06] <seb128> users don't build so are not impacted by build issues
[10:06] <seb128> desrt, thanks!
[10:07] <seb128> contributors might be
[10:07] <hikiko> right
[10:07] <hikiko> so, there's no rush to top-approve and land the change?
[10:25] <Trevinho> hi seb128/hikiko
[10:25] <hikiko> hi Trevinho :)
[10:25] <hikiko> thanks for the reviews
[10:26] <hikiko> Trevinho, compiz has some compile errors
[10:26] <hikiko> just warning treated as errors
[10:26] <hikiko> https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/compiz/compiz.fix-compile-errors
[10:26] <Trevinho> hikiko: ah, probably something changed under the hood
[10:26] <hikiko> could you review this branch?
[10:26] <hikiko> yep
[10:27] <Trevinho> hikiko: since there has been a landing few days ago.. and in the mean time something might have changed
[10:27] <hikiko> I just commented them out in case someone needs to put them back at some point
[10:27] <hikiko> yup
[10:27] <hikiko> I just didn't know how urgent is that tbh
[10:27] <Trevinho> hikiko: well, you can remove them at all...
[10:27] <Trevinho> hikiko: bzr history will do the job in case
[10:28] <hikiko> ok give me a minute
[10:28] <seb128> hey Trevinho, how are you?
[10:28] <Trevinho> seb128: allright, you? Got a nice we?
[10:28] <seb128> relaxing w.e in France indeed!
[10:28] <seb128> you?
[10:32] <hikiko> Trevinho, fixed
[10:36] <Trevinho> hikiko: did you also check that expo branch for further fixes?
[10:36] <hikiko> not yet Trevinho I am fixing the moving windows now
[10:37] <hikiko> but I couldn't see the gap last time :/ /me was so happy :p I am going to test again
[12:04] <tjaalton> anpok: hi, had a chance to test new libinput yet?
[12:04] <tjaalton> anpok: it's blocking new x-x-i-libinput build
[13:17] <Laney> ubuntu@juju-stg-ue-appstream-back-machine-2:~$ cat /srv/appstream/itworked
[13:17] <Laney> hooray
[13:18]  * Laney weeps
[13:18] <seb128> :-)
[13:19] <Laney> that was quite a challenge
[13:19]  * Laney is now a cloud guy
[13:19] <Laney> screw you desktop
[13:19] <seb128> heh!
[13:19]  * seb128 hands some tea for Laney
[13:20] <Laney> I have a celebratory feta & lemon quinoa salad for lunch
[13:20] <seb128> sounds good, enjoy ;-)
[13:20] <Laney> need to write down the hacks first
[13:20] <Laney> so I don't forget them for the real charm
[13:20] <Laney> ._.
[13:21] <Laney> actually there's just one I think
[13:25] <Laney> k, biab
[13:25] <seb128> Laney, have fun!
[13:45] <andyrock> good "morning"
[13:49] <seb128> andyrock, hey ;-) how are you? have a good w.e?
[13:50] <andyrock> seb128: yep, enjoying the city
[13:50] <andyrock> seb128: what about you?
[13:50] <seb128> I'm good thanks, had a quiet and relaxing w.e in France
[13:50] <seb128> though my cold is still annoying me a bit at times
[13:52] <andyrock> seb128: ubuflu? :/
[13:52] <andyrock> i'll be in France next w.e.
[13:53] <andyrock> \o/
[13:56] <seb128> andyrock, yeah, delayed ubuflu from previous week, I feel better but not still a bit sick/hot at times
[13:56] <seb128> andyrock, where in France?
[13:57] <andyrock> Carcassone and Narbonne
[14:10] <jbicha> seb128: is Sweet5hark still on holiday? I want to rebuild LO for the glew transition but I didn't want to bother if we were just going to get LO 5.2.3 this week anyway
[14:11] <anpok> tjaalton: not yet.. I might not get to it today
[14:12] <seb128> jbicha, he should be back today according to our hr website
[14:13] <seb128> jbicha, unsure he plans to update zesty/started on that, also did you test if it still builds with the current toolchain?
[14:13] <seb128> libreoffice tends to start cycle with a round of toolchain issues to sort out
[14:15] <tjaalton> anpok: alright, no worries
[14:25] <jbicha> no, I didn't test-build LO yet
[14:32]  * Sweet5hark is back ...
[14:36] <Sweet5hark> jbicha: i wouldnt bother with 5.2.3 on zesty if we can avoid it as we should go for LO 5.3.x there is the end. for transitions just go with whatever is in yakkety-security. there is little value in 5.2.3 over that for zesty, if we bump to 5.3.x in the end there anyway.
[14:59] <andyrock> bucklespring snap compulsory for next sprint
[15:06] <Sweet5hark> andyrock: hah, Ill bring my trusty model m: bucklespring unplugged ftw!
[15:09]  * Laney has a Das Keyboard with Cherry MX Blue (clicky) keys
[15:10] <Laney> we can have a click-off
[15:18] <ricotz> jbicha, Sweet5hark, pushed a lo rebuild for zesty to https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+sourcepub/7108855/+listing-archive-extra -- I assume there are several transitions already, at least boost and glew
[15:38] <ogra_> Laney, how do yu like it ?
[15:39]  * ogra_ just threw away his CODE after half the switches stopped working right after it ran out of warranty ... 
[15:39] <ogra_> i got a vortex pok3r now :)
[15:39] <ogra_> (MX brown though ... only mildlly clicky)
[15:47] <Laney> ogra_: It's nice, I like the tactileness (if that's a word)
[15:47] <Laney> and the clicking sounds badass :)
[15:48] <Laney> I probably type on the XPS more though
[15:48] <Laney> should do something about that
[15:48] <ogra_> yeah, i never had MX blues ... the clear ones of the CODE were way to heavy for me though
[15:48] <Laney> like use the das keyboard on the xps instead of the external chiclet one I have now
[15:48] <ogra_> heh
[15:48] <ogra_> my typing is 50/50 XPS/pok33r
[15:49] <ogra_> depending oe where i work (the laptop is in the living room)
[15:49]  * Laney has it on a stand next to the desktop normally
[16:10] <xnox> sil2100,
[16:10] <xnox> make[1]: Entering directory '/<<BUILDDIR>>/storage-framework-0.1+16.10.20160909'
[16:10] <xnox> Unknown distro series zesty
[16:10] <xnox> debian/rules:21: recipe for target 'override_dh_auto_clean' failed
[16:11] <xnox> in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/storage-framework/0.1+16.10.20160909-0ubuntu2 what shall i do?
[16:11] <sil2100> hm
[16:11] <xnox> it does say bileto something, or maybe that's just a red herring?
[16:11] <sil2100> eh, yeah, possibly the bileto_pre_release_hook is badly written or simply outdated, possibly doesn't know what zesty is to handle the packaging for it
[16:12] <sil2100> kenvandine: ping
[16:13] <sil2100> xnox: I can take a quick look into that, but best if upstream also fixes this upstream
[16:13] <Laney> looks like an upstream thing
[16:13] <Laney> slightly shady at that
[16:14] <sil2100> xnox: (the bileto_pre_release_hook is a 'packaging bit' in some Bileto-supported packages, it's run on clean when building the package)
[16:16] <sil2100> xnox: yeah, I see their scripts only handle explicit series versions here, would like to coordinate this with them
[16:47] <Laney> chrisccoulson / ricotz: what's the right packaging vcs for firefox/zesty (do all releases use the same branch?)?
[16:50] <ricotz> Laney, no dedicated one yet, so lp:~mozillateam/firefox/firefox.yakkety
[16:50] <ricotz> Laney, https://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam
[16:51] <Laney> ricotz: yes I see 99999 branches there
[16:51] <Laney> thx
[16:52] <ricotz> Laney, the recently changed mature ones are the release ones
[16:52] <Laney> I want to know where to propose a packaging change to for the development release
[16:53] <Laney> don't care about the rest, although if the policy is to have the packaging in sync then that's fine
[16:53] <Laney> (assuming the maintainer will take care of that)
[16:53]  * Laney will just use yakkety
[17:02] <bregma> attente, are you coming to the Mir stakeholder review?
[17:02] <attente> bregma: sure