[14:38] Good afternoon [14:39] There's an "Immutable Page" wiki page that needs changing, how does one do that§ [14:39] ? [14:41] Forage: can u give me the link [14:41] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation is out-of-date because as of libvirt 1.3.3-2ubuntu1 (in yakkety), there's no longer a group "libvirtd" available [14:41] it's "libvirt" now (http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/libv/libvirt/libvirt_2.1.0-1ubuntu9/changelog) [14:41] "Switch to 'libvirt' group, keeping the same gid as 'libvirtd' on upgrade." [14:42] If the intention is to have users automagically added to this group than it's not the case [14:43] (i.e. users do not get auto-added, so manual action is required) [14:43] Forage: so you want to edit that wiki page? [14:44] yes, section https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation#Add_Users_to_Groups needs a Yakkety exeption [14:44] Forage: you have to be a member of this team https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wiki-editors [14:45] than you can edit an ubuntu wiki page [14:45] Quite an effort for adding two lines of text ;-P [14:46] yep [14:47] I can file it as a bug for the team as well? [14:47] without that anyone can edit a page , whatever they want [14:50] And at the same time people don't bother to fix things any more because it's too much of a PitA [22:01] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EsJLNGVJ7E & https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/15893 & http://i.imgur.com/TmzXvvz.jpg