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knightwiseMorning everyone06:55
daftykinshallo \o06:56
knightwisehey daftykins07:03
knightwisehow are you man07:03
daftykinsnot too bad at all thanks! and yourself? got the excitement of a misbehaving Lenovo laptop to look at today07:04
knightwiseThat sounds annoyng07:08
knightwiseI've been pondering what my next laptop is going to be, not looking foward to the new macbooks with their usbCports07:09
daftykinssort of, user claims a crazy touchpad and system freezing when the lid is opened after having been closed (no sleep action configured)07:09
daftykinswas it yourself with a Dell XPS13 935007:09
daftykins+ ?07:09
daftykins'cause i love mine07:09
knightwiseYep , i have that one :)07:10
knightwiseThe macbook I use for my company07:10
knightwiseI do presentations on it, video editing etc07:10
knightwiseThe xps runs Ubuntu,07:11
daftykinscan't stand Apple myself07:11
daftykinsoh, is there not good enough video editing software available?07:11
knightwisedaftykins: need it for my company. (I'm a freelance ICT consultant and I do a lot of talks and presentations)07:11
knightwisedaftykins: comparing openshot to final cut pro might be stretching it a little07:11
daftykinsi've just genuinely never looked, never done video editing and i don't run Linux on the desktop07:12
knightwiseAudio editing would be fine on linux , Audacity and some other tools are all I need07:15
knightwisebut .. video editing is another thing.07:15
knightwisebut its more the presentation workflow07:15
knightwiseIf i have a machine with only usbC ports is gonna be a hassle to hook it up to projectors and stuff07:16
daftykinsyep07:16
daftykinsbut then you'd have to have a screw loose to buy one07:16
daftykinsright now those models are at the "only good for burning early adopters" stage07:17
knightwisetrue07:17
knightwiseI still have a year to go if/when i'm gonna replace it07:17
daftykinshow old is your existing model?07:18
knightwisemight just replace it with a desktop mac mini and go for somthing different on the mobile site07:18
knightwisemine is just over 2 years07:18
knightwisebut after three years its written off for the company so i might need to buy a new one07:18
knightwisenot HAVE to but ..07:18
knightwiseDefinately not gonna buy the first version of a new model07:18
daftykinsif you saw the Louis Rossman youtube video, it's better to buy the 2014/15 model apparently07:20
daftykinsalso, mac minis haven't been refreshed in forever so that'd be a very unwise move07:20
daftykinshttp://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Mac07:20
knightwiseTrue,07:23
knightwisebut i still have over a year to decide07:24
knightwiseso .. i have time07:24
daftykinsyarr, rumour has it some more machines are getting announced in the new year07:24
knightwisebut the video (i saw it too) did make me wonder what workflows I absolutely HAVE to have on OSX07:24
daftykinsheh yeah i would go out of my way to avoid them07:24
knightwisetrue07:35
knightwisemost important workflow right now is Presentations07:35
knightwiseDo thoe is keynote07:35
knightwiseworks fine, looks good , reliable07:35
knightwiseopenoffice isnt quite there yet07:36
Nafallomorning08:33
daftykins\o08:36
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:43
daftykinshiya08:45
brobostigonhi daftykins08:46
Gargoyleo/08:47
brobostigon\o08:48
* zmoylan-pi looks forward to a nice hot bowl of porridge on this cold monday...08:54
brobostigonyes please.08:58
knightwisehmm that sounds nice08:59
daftykinsi was thinking my usual cold cereal wasn't cutting it, probably going to nip to 'The Cornish Bakery' this morning to get a nice hot sausage roll instead ;)08:59
daftykinssilly folks don't even have their opening times on their site08:59
popeyPain au chocolat here :)08:59
daftykins:O09:00
daftykinsmy eyes would say yes but my need to lose a few pounds wouldn't ^_^09:00
daftykinsmind you i keep buying crumpets and spreading nutella on them, so i doubt that's going so well...09:00
daftykinsGargoyle: you might want to give SASL auth a go, so you don't join, quit, join to change hostname :>09:01
knightwiseJust coffee and an apple over here09:03
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daftykinsfor brekkie!? D:09:03
davmor2Morning all09:03
knightwiseRunning a fullscreen Linux VM on my surface pro 4 here :) looks sexy09:03
daftykinsjust how many machines do you have? :P09:04
daftykinsmy clients surface pro 4 was exhibiting those sleep issues they've all got and not fixed, not very impressive09:04
knightwisedaftykins: 3, SP4, XPS13 and my MPB09:04
daftykinscrikey09:04
* knightwise is a cross platform geek09:05
daftykinsdon't need all 3 to do that though :P09:05
diploMorning all09:05
daftykins\o09:05
daftykinshow goes it diplo?09:05
diploNot to bad thanks matey, yourself ?09:06
knightwisedaftykins: I also need them for my company :)à09:06
daftykinsyeah good! early yet though :D09:06
daftykinsknightwise: pssh09:06
knightwiseSP4 at the client , MBP for freelance work , XPS for fun and learnign09:06
knightwisehey diplo09:06
diploBeen up since 4:30/5 so close to midday here :D09:06
daftykinshehe09:06
knightwisewhat hot beverage are you havng this morning ?09:06
daftykinswell i meant my working day, but i've been up since ~8pm last night XD09:07
daftykinsnipping to the bank now, benefits of living on the high street \o09:07
diploDear god, how old are you, I couldn't do thwe all nighters anymore!09:11
knightwisedaftykins is a vampire09:11
knightwiseI just turned 42 .. allnighters no longer an option09:11
* brobostigon just made himself a breakfast toastie.09:14
knightwisehmm.. That sounds nice09:15
* knightwise hasnt had breakfast :(09:15
zmoylan-piyou'd think the partial success they have with surface pro they'd go all out to fix the issues with it09:17
knightwisezmoylan-pi: agreed09:17
knightwiseAll the hibernate problems are fixed on mine09:17
knightwiseso currently its behaving admirably09:17
zmoylan-pibut you hear of all the problems and i'd find myself trusting it less as they continue to happen09:18
daftykinshibernate != sleep09:18
zmoylan-pi8.709:19
knightwiselets say i trust the device for 90%09:19
zmoylan-piwow, i'd take a hammer to it if i had hardware that unreliable09:20
daftykinslocal copper and a youngish guy walk along the high street as i'm headed home with my sausage roll... "would you mind helping with a survey about police reporting?"09:20
daftykinsi said "yes i would" and carried on home to eat :P09:20
zmoylan-pithey smelt sausage roll and wanted in on the action... :-P09:20
daftykins:D09:21
daftykinsthe true long arm of the law, pinching food09:21
zmoylan-pibe thankful it wasn't donuts09:21
daftykinsoh and NatWest on the high street were having their automatic doors fixed :D09:30
daftykinsdiplo: well, 31... but i don't plan to finish the day in full :>09:30
zmoylan-pipost brexit, they'll only allow you in if you are wearing bicycle clips and carrying an umbrella? :-)09:31
daftykinswell that event didn't do anything to us09:31
daftykinsour banks are offshore variants that can't be dealt with in mainland branches - we've been out of the EU this whole time09:31
diploMy kids had just been born then, I guess that was the end of my all nighters (apart from work )09:32
zmoylan-pipoor tescobank seems to have been hacked09:32
daftykins:o09:33
diplout oh, I have tesco bank account!09:33
diploAlthough now unused09:33
zmoylan-pithey've disabled their cards as money seems to have gone walkabout09:33
daftykinsisn't that a really generic pub chain? ;)09:34
diploNo emails from them about it, just telling me I have payments due in 5 days ( I don't they just send it anyway ) if ($balance == 0 ) dont send mail09:35
daftykins:D09:35
zmoylan-pihttp://news.sky.com/story/tesco-freezes-thousands-of-bank-cards-over-fraud-fears-1064754909:37
daftykinshmm mythbuntu is no more... last 2 devs quit09:40
zmoylan-pimythtv... a name i haven't heard in a long time...09:40
diploHaven't used myth for years, didn't realise it was still going09:40
diploIt's a pity Tescos didn't feel the need to get in contact with its custoemrs09:40
zmoylan-pibut that would involve sending them an email, which they've been told they'd never do... #21st century dilemmas09:41
daftykinsperhaps they're still rushing around screaming?09:42
zmoylan-piall those rushing around screaming have been sent to the chicken processing plant... :-P09:43
* daftykins spies the cat trying to find new things to claw09:43
knightwiseSo who is watching the season finaly for America this week09:44
zmoylan-piif you don't provide something for the cat to claw, they will make their own arrangements09:44
daftykinsugh i'm sick to death of that country's politics :P09:44
daftykinszmoylan-pi: and then unarrange them ;)09:44
daftykinsshe doesn't find her actual scratching post all that worthy, as it goes09:45
JamesTaitGood morning all! Happy Monday, and happy Hug a Bear Day! 😃  🐻09:55
daftykinswoo \o/09:56
daftykinsalthough i just saw "The Revenant" (film) the other night and i'm not so sure that's a good idea! :D09:57
zmoylan-pimy favourite was the bear that attacked a japanese pensioner a few years back... ex wwii vet who went all samurai on it...09:57
diploJust told my mate about the Tescos thing, he reckons the 20k people are on the Tesco Value account and not the Tescos Finest Bank account ,not the same quality!10:16
zmoylan-pithe value accounts only have 1 digit pins or something? :-)10:18
davmor2JamesTait: man now I can't get the huggy bear walking down the street bowm chigga bowmmmm music out of my head10:25
SebthreeBQM10HDhi12:19
SebthreeBQM10HDwhos here?12:20
zmoylan-pino one here but us chickens12:20
SebthreeBQM10HDok your here at least12:20
foobarryyou're12:24
foobarry:P12:24
knightwiseBoog12:31
popeyZarro Boogs.12:35
zmoylan-piwould that be from the essex boogs? :-P12:37
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foobarrythe worst thing about being fb friends with people in australia are the "bring on the summer" statuses when we're all freezing in UK13:39
zmoylan-pipeople down the sea front yesterday buying icecream even if it was 2c... just to keep warm... :-)13:41
davmor2foobarry: yeah but when they are basking in the sun in the winter we are........wait has the southern hemisphere just stolen all the sun13:50
diplofoobarry: Glad you popped up... what is the Nagios alternative you use?13:51
diploI want to give it a try13:51
diploanagios or something?13:51
foobarryadagios, its a wrapper on top of nagios to make it awesome13:51
foobarryit allows editing configs via the webui13:51
diploTa, will start a container up now and tinker13:51
diploThat's what I want, the guys in are other office have problems otherwise13:51
foobarryand still allows to see the /nagios underneath at any time (you won't want to)13:52
foobarrypretty vs ugly13:52
diploRun it on centos ?13:52
foobarryyep13:52
foobarryi have puppet scripts to install it13:52
diploAh right, I'm an ansible man so far, keep meaning to try puppet13:53
diploCent7 ?13:53
davmor2diplo, foobarry: Zabbix and munin are two I've heard people in the lug bound around13:53
foobarryour server is on c6 for legacy reasons13:53
diploYeah not a fan really, we still have cent4 in paces foobarry :(13:54
davmor2no idea how good bad or indifferent they are they were just mentioned13:54
foobarrybrobostigon: how did the interview go?13:54
diploI have nagios running / querying 80 of our customer sites, but because its 'hard' people don't use it enough13:54
foobarryadagios should fix most simple config changes e.g. adding new contacts and adding services13:55
foobarrybulk ack'ing of alerts etc13:55
foobarrybtw if you use monitoring screens, then nagcon displays your nagios/adagios alerts in a terminal13:56
diplojust setting up the container now and will have installed shortly13:56
foobarryits the best awy to show nagios alerts that i've used/seen13:56
diplooh right, they had a 42" screen up in our other office for it13:57
diplogod knows what they do now13:57
zmoylan-pitimes have moved on, a drone that pokes the person responsible probably :-)13:58
diploAs I say, we don't move on... RH8 and Cent4 servers and 2 x sco servers13:59
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diddledan_https://twitter.com/alicemazzy/status/79505137114991820814:22
diddledan_lol14:22
diploUp and running foobarry thanks14:26
diploLooks good14:26
diploImagine installing an OS, installing all packages and a monitoring software in 26 mins even 5 years ago14:27
diddledan_apparently mythbuntu is no more14:31
diddledan_ref: http://news.softpedia.com/news/mythbuntu-linux-is-no-more-the-distribution-has-been-officially-discontinued-509985.shtml14:32
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davmor2JamesTait: belated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sib4tOC4iUE16:40
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