[06:55] <knightwise> Morning everyone
[06:56] <daftykins> hallo \o
[07:03] <knightwise> hey daftykins
[07:03] <knightwise> how are you man
[07:04] <daftykins> not too bad at all thanks! and yourself? got the excitement of a misbehaving Lenovo laptop to look at today
[07:08] <knightwise> That sounds annoyng
[07:09] <knightwise> I've been pondering what my next laptop is going to be, not looking foward to the new macbooks with their usbCports
[07:09] <daftykins> sort of, user claims a crazy touchpad and system freezing when the lid is opened after having been closed (no sleep action configured)
[07:09] <daftykins> was it yourself with a Dell XPS13 9350
[07:09] <daftykins> + ?
[07:09] <daftykins> 'cause i love mine
[07:10] <knightwise> Yep , i have that one :)
[07:10] <knightwise> The macbook I use for my company
[07:10] <knightwise> I do presentations on it, video editing etc
[07:11] <knightwise> The xps runs Ubuntu,
[07:11] <daftykins> can't stand Apple myself
[07:11] <daftykins> oh, is there not good enough video editing software available?
[07:11] <knightwise> daftykins: need it for my company. (I'm a freelance ICT consultant and I do a lot of talks and presentations)
[07:11] <knightwise> daftykins: comparing openshot to final cut pro might be stretching it a little
[07:12] <daftykins> i've just genuinely never looked, never done video editing and i don't run Linux on the desktop
[07:15] <knightwise> Audio editing would be fine on linux , Audacity and some other tools are all I need
[07:15] <knightwise> but .. video editing is another thing.
[07:15] <knightwise> but its more the presentation workflow
[07:16] <knightwise> If i have a machine with only usbC ports is gonna be a hassle to hook it up to projectors and stuff
[07:16] <daftykins> yep
[07:16] <daftykins> but then you'd have to have a screw loose to buy one
[07:17] <daftykins> right now those models are at the "only good for burning early adopters" stage
[07:17] <knightwise> true
[07:17] <knightwise> I still have a year to go if/when i'm gonna replace it
[07:18] <daftykins> how old is your existing model?
[07:18] <knightwise> might just replace it with a desktop mac mini and go for somthing different on the mobile site
[07:18] <knightwise> mine is just over 2 years
[07:18] <knightwise> but after three years its written off for the company so i might need to buy a new one
[07:18] <knightwise> not HAVE to but ..
[07:18] <knightwise> Definately not gonna buy the first version of a new model
[07:20] <daftykins> if you saw the Louis Rossman youtube video, it's better to buy the 2014/15 model apparently
[07:20] <daftykins> also, mac minis haven't been refreshed in forever so that'd be a very unwise move
[07:20] <daftykins> http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Mac
[07:23] <knightwise> True,
[07:24] <knightwise> but i still have over a year to decide
[07:24] <knightwise> so .. i have time
[07:24] <daftykins> yarr, rumour has it some more machines are getting announced in the new year
[07:24] <knightwise> but the video (i saw it too) did make me wonder what workflows I absolutely HAVE to have on OSX
[07:24] <daftykins> heh yeah i would go out of my way to avoid them
[07:35] <knightwise> true
[07:35] <knightwise> most important workflow right now is Presentations
[07:35] <knightwise> Do thoe is keynote
[07:35] <knightwise> works fine, looks good , reliable
[07:36] <knightwise> openoffice isnt quite there yet
[08:33] <Nafallo> morning
[08:36] <daftykins> \o
[08:43] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:45] <daftykins> hiya
[08:46] <brobostigon> hi daftykins
[08:47] <Gargoyle> o/
[08:48] <brobostigon> \o
[08:54]  * zmoylan-pi looks forward to a nice hot bowl of porridge on this cold monday...
[08:58] <brobostigon> yes please.
[08:59] <knightwise> hmm that sounds nice
[08:59] <daftykins> i was thinking my usual cold cereal wasn't cutting it, probably going to nip to 'The Cornish Bakery' this morning to get a nice hot sausage roll instead ;)
[08:59] <daftykins> silly folks don't even have their opening times on their site
[08:59] <popey> Pain au chocolat here :)
[09:00] <daftykins> :O
[09:00] <daftykins> my eyes would say yes but my need to lose a few pounds wouldn't ^_^
[09:00] <daftykins> mind you i keep buying crumpets and spreading nutella on them, so i doubt that's going so well...
[09:01] <daftykins> Gargoyle: you might want to give SASL auth a go, so you don't join, quit, join to change hostname :>
[09:03] <knightwise> Just coffee and an apple over here
[09:03] <daftykins> for brekkie!? D:
[09:03] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:03] <knightwise> Running a fullscreen Linux VM on my surface pro 4 here :) looks sexy
[09:04] <daftykins> just how many machines do you have? :P
[09:04] <daftykins> my clients surface pro 4 was exhibiting those sleep issues they've all got and not fixed, not very impressive
[09:04] <knightwise> daftykins: 3, SP4, XPS13 and my MPB
[09:04] <daftykins> crikey
[09:05]  * knightwise is a cross platform geek
[09:05] <daftykins> don't need all 3 to do that though :P
[09:05] <diplo> Morning all
[09:05] <daftykins> \o
[09:05] <daftykins> how goes it diplo?
[09:06] <diplo> Not to bad thanks matey, yourself ?
[09:06] <knightwise> daftykins: I also need them for my company :)à
[09:06] <daftykins> yeah good! early yet though :D
[09:06] <daftykins> knightwise: pssh
[09:06] <knightwise> SP4 at the client , MBP for freelance work , XPS for fun and learnign
[09:06] <knightwise> hey diplo
[09:06] <diplo> Been up since 4:30/5 so close to midday here :D
[09:06] <daftykins> hehe
[09:06] <knightwise> what hot beverage are you havng this morning ?
[09:07] <daftykins> well i meant my working day, but i've been up since ~8pm last night XD
[09:07] <daftykins> nipping to the bank now, benefits of living on the high street \o
[09:11] <diplo> Dear god, how old are you, I couldn't do thwe all nighters anymore!
[09:11] <knightwise> daftykins is a vampire
[09:11] <knightwise> I just turned 42 .. allnighters no longer an option
[09:14]  * brobostigon just made himself a breakfast toastie.
[09:15] <knightwise> hmm.. That sounds nice
[09:15]  * knightwise hasnt had breakfast :(
[09:17] <zmoylan-pi> you'd think the partial success they have with surface pro they'd go all out to fix the issues with it
[09:17] <knightwise> zmoylan-pi: agreed
[09:17] <knightwise> All the hibernate problems are fixed on mine
[09:17] <knightwise> so currently its behaving admirably
[09:18] <zmoylan-pi> but you hear of all the problems and i'd find myself trusting it less as they continue to happen
[09:18] <daftykins> hibernate != sleep
[09:19] <zmoylan-pi> 8.7
[09:19] <knightwise> lets say i trust the device for 90%
[09:20] <zmoylan-pi> wow, i'd take a hammer to it if i had hardware that unreliable
[09:20] <daftykins> local copper and a youngish guy walk along the high street as i'm headed home with my sausage roll... "would you mind helping with a survey about police reporting?"
[09:20] <daftykins> i said "yes i would" and carried on home to eat :P
[09:20] <zmoylan-pi> they smelt sausage roll and wanted in on the action... :-P
[09:21] <daftykins> :D
[09:21] <daftykins> the true long arm of the law, pinching food
[09:21] <zmoylan-pi> be thankful it wasn't donuts
[09:30] <daftykins> oh and NatWest on the high street were having their automatic doors fixed :D
[09:30] <daftykins> diplo: well, 31... but i don't plan to finish the day in full :>
[09:31] <zmoylan-pi> post brexit, they'll only allow you in if you are wearing bicycle clips and carrying an umbrella? :-)
[09:31] <daftykins> well that event didn't do anything to us
[09:31] <daftykins> our banks are offshore variants that can't be dealt with in mainland branches - we've been out of the EU this whole time
[09:32] <diplo> My kids had just been born then, I guess that was the end of my all nighters (apart from work )
[09:32] <zmoylan-pi> poor tescobank seems to have been hacked
[09:33] <daftykins> :o
[09:33] <diplo> ut oh, I have tesco bank account!
[09:33] <diplo> Although now unused
[09:33] <zmoylan-pi> they've disabled their cards as money seems to have gone walkabout
[09:34] <daftykins> isn't that a really generic pub chain? ;)
[09:35] <diplo> No emails from them about it, just telling me I have payments due in 5 days ( I don't they just send it anyway ) if ($balance == 0 ) dont send mail
[09:35] <daftykins> :D
[09:37] <zmoylan-pi> http://news.sky.com/story/tesco-freezes-thousands-of-bank-cards-over-fraud-fears-10647549
[09:40] <daftykins> hmm mythbuntu is no more... last 2 devs quit
[09:40] <zmoylan-pi> mythtv... a name i haven't heard in a long time...
[09:40] <diplo> Haven't used myth for years, didn't realise it was still going
[09:40] <diplo> It's a pity Tescos didn't feel the need to get in contact with its custoemrs
[09:41] <zmoylan-pi> but that would involve sending them an email, which they've been told they'd never do... #21st century dilemmas
[09:42] <daftykins> perhaps they're still rushing around screaming?
[09:43] <zmoylan-pi> all those rushing around screaming have been sent to the chicken processing plant... :-P
[09:43]  * daftykins spies the cat trying to find new things to claw
[09:44] <knightwise> So who is watching the season finaly for America this week
[09:44] <zmoylan-pi> if you don't provide something for the cat to claw, they will make their own arrangements
[09:44] <daftykins> ugh i'm sick to death of that country's politics :P
[09:44] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: and then unarrange them ;)
[09:45] <daftykins> she doesn't find her actual scratching post all that worthy, as it goes
[09:55] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Monday, and happy Hug a Bear Day! 😃  🐻
[09:56] <daftykins> woo \o/
[09:57] <daftykins> although i just saw "The Revenant" (film) the other night and i'm not so sure that's a good idea! :D
[09:57] <zmoylan-pi> my favourite was the bear that attacked a japanese pensioner a few years back... ex wwii vet who went all samurai on it...
[10:16] <diplo> Just told my mate about the Tescos thing, he reckons the 20k people are on the Tesco Value account and not the Tescos Finest Bank account ,not the same quality!
[10:18] <zmoylan-pi> the value accounts only have 1 digit pins or something? :-)
[10:25] <davmor2> JamesTait: man now I can't get the huggy bear walking down the street bowm chigga bowmmmm music out of my head
[12:19] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[12:20] <SebthreeBQM10HD> whos here?
[12:20] <zmoylan-pi> no one here but us chickens
[12:20] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ok your here at least
[12:24] <foobarry> you're
[12:24] <foobarry> :P
[12:31] <knightwise> Boog
[12:35] <popey> Zarro Boogs.
[12:37] <zmoylan-pi> would that be from the essex boogs? :-P
[13:39] <foobarry> the worst thing about being fb friends with people in australia are the "bring on the summer" statuses when we're all freezing in UK
[13:41] <zmoylan-pi> people down the sea front yesterday buying icecream even if it was 2c... just to keep warm... :-)
[13:50] <davmor2> foobarry: yeah but when they are basking in the sun in the winter we are........wait has the southern hemisphere just stolen all the sun
[13:51] <diplo> foobarry: Glad you popped up... what is the Nagios alternative you use?
[13:51] <diplo> I want to give it a try
[13:51] <diplo> anagios or something?
[13:51] <foobarry> adagios, its a wrapper on top of nagios to make it awesome
[13:51] <foobarry> it allows editing configs via the webui
[13:51] <diplo> Ta, will start a container up now and tinker
[13:51] <diplo> That's what I want, the guys in are other office have problems otherwise
[13:52] <foobarry> and still allows to see the /nagios underneath at any time (you won't want to)
[13:52] <foobarry> pretty vs ugly
[13:52] <diplo> Run it on centos ?
[13:52] <foobarry> yep
[13:52] <foobarry> i have puppet scripts to install it
[13:53] <diplo> Ah right, I'm an ansible man so far, keep meaning to try puppet
[13:53] <diplo> Cent7 ?
[13:53] <davmor2> diplo, foobarry: Zabbix and munin are two I've heard people in the lug bound around
[13:53] <foobarry> our server is on c6 for legacy reasons
[13:54] <diplo> Yeah not a fan really, we still have cent4 in paces foobarry :(
[13:54] <davmor2> no idea how good bad or indifferent they are they were just mentioned
[13:54] <foobarry> brobostigon: how did the interview go?
[13:54] <diplo> I have nagios running / querying 80 of our customer sites, but because its 'hard' people don't use it enough
[13:55] <foobarry> adagios should fix most simple config changes e.g. adding new contacts and adding services
[13:55] <foobarry> bulk ack'ing of alerts etc
[13:56] <foobarry> btw if you use monitoring screens, then nagcon displays your nagios/adagios alerts in a terminal
[13:56] <diplo> just setting up the container now and will have installed shortly
[13:56] <foobarry> its the best awy to show nagios alerts that i've used/seen
[13:57] <diplo> oh right, they had a 42" screen up in our other office for it
[13:57] <diplo> god knows what they do now
[13:58] <zmoylan-pi> times have moved on, a drone that pokes the person responsible probably :-)
[13:59] <diplo> As I say, we don't move on... RH8 and Cent4 servers and 2 x sco servers
[14:22] <diddledan_> https://twitter.com/alicemazzy/status/795051371149918208
[14:22] <diddledan_> lol
[14:26] <diplo> Up and running foobarry thanks
[14:26] <diplo> Looks good
[14:27] <diplo> Imagine installing an OS, installing all packages and a monitoring software in 26 mins even 5 years ago
[14:31] <diddledan_> apparently mythbuntu is no more
[14:32] <diddledan_> ref: http://news.softpedia.com/news/mythbuntu-linux-is-no-more-the-distribution-has-been-officially-discontinued-509985.shtml
[16:40] <davmor2> JamesTait: belated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sib4tOC4iUE