[05:24] <pavlushka> ahoy ZA!
[05:56] <thatgraemeguy> morning peoples
[05:57] <Kilos> hi thatgraemeguy inetpro paddatrapper and everyone else
[05:57] <paddatrapper> Hey Kilos, thatgraemeguy
[06:51] <inetpro> goeie more
[06:51] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[06:52] <inetpro> what's the score oom Kilos?
[06:52] <Kilos> what score inetpro ?
[06:52] <Kilos> is there a game on?
[06:53] <inetpro>  South Africa 242 & 540/8d 
[06:53] <inetpro>  Australia 244 & 326/8 (110.0 ov) 
[06:53] <inetpro>  Australia require another 213 runs with 2 wickets remaining 
[06:53] <Kilos> oh havent watched
[06:53] <inetpro> 1st Test: Australia v South Africa at Perth
[06:54] <inetpro> you should be at the stadium man
[06:54] <Kilos> that sounds good
[06:54] <Kilos> no man
[07:13] <inetpro> Kilos: just jump into the car and go there
[07:14] <Kilos> lol
[07:15] <Kilos> we have just had supper so now its dishes and bath soon
[07:20] <inetpro> Kilos: ok the next test at Hobart is closer to you guys
[07:21] <inetpro> just need to jump onto the Ferry for a few hours 
[07:23] <inetpro> and the 3rd is at Adelaide 
[07:46] <inetpro> and South Africa winning by 177 runs 
[07:46] <Kilos> lol
[07:49] <Kilos> hey inetpro when i was a kid i read an afrikaans book about mossies, and one of the characters was skeel oog at
[07:49] <Kilos> do you know it
[08:18] <inetpro> Kilos: Trompie?
[08:19] <inetpro> trompie en die boksombende
[08:39] <Kilos> nee man dit was van n klomp mossies
[08:39] <Kilos> jy weet , daai voeltjies
[08:40] <Kilos> sparrows
[08:53] <inetpro> Kilos: tell us a bit more about it
[11:25] <Kilos> i dont remember inetpro , just that skeel oog At had his one eye shot out by a kid with a pellet gun
[11:32] <inetpro> Kilos: what made you remember this story?
[11:34] <Kilos> they have mossies here that they call sparrows and debbie is trying to improve her afrikaans so that story popped up in my mind
[11:35] <Kilos> hi chesedo 
[11:36] <chesedo> wow Kilos, that's speedious... and hi too, how are things?
[11:36] <Kilos> ok ty and you lad?
[11:37] <chesedo> great thanks oom
[11:38] <Kilos> im ready to sleep just about so not afk for a change
[11:39] <chesedo> oh that explains it (4 secs was quick)
[11:40] <chesedo> this enjoying Aus oom Kilos?
[11:40] <Kilos> not really, the weather sucks but im enjoying being with the girls
[11:41] <Kilos> 3 weeks time ill be back there
[11:41] <chesedo> here it is just clouds and storms, but no rain yet...
[11:42] <chesedo> real proper rain that is...
[11:42] <Kilos> yeah my sis tells me how dry it is there
[11:44] <chesedo> dam about 25% full, and have till about March according to some minister (although by my linear calc it's about early Jan) till we are in serious trouble... 
[11:45] <Kilos> yip
[11:48] <Kilos> i say night now guys. have a good day and look after yourselves
[11:48] <Kilos> and say hi to fly for me please
[12:46] <superfly> ohi
[12:51] <chesedo> superfly: from that i gather that you saw Kilos' hi
[12:51] <superfly> chesedo: I see everything
[12:51]  * chesedo goes back to the dark corner with fear
[12:52]  * superfly remembers Trompie en die Boksombende
[12:53] <chesedo> superfly: i'm not old enough to know much about them
[12:54]  * chesedo only knows about one of Trompie's "Een vir my, een vir julle, een vir my, een vir julle..." 
[13:02] <superfly> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6yuP2Qay1g
[13:07] <superfly> whahaha! since when did a bicycle cost R80
[15:55] <qwebirc42625> hi all, I'm sure this is a FAQ but I cant find recent advice. I'm looking to purchase a new latop that is linux friendly. It will be mainly for development. So 15" min screen size. Budget is around 35k and I'd like to get it by mid-dec latest. 
[15:55] <qwebirc42625> Does anyone have any pointers?
[15:55] <qwebirc42625> the Acer Predator i7 looks ok
[15:55] <qwebirc42625> but linux support is not well documented
[15:55] <qwebirc42625> I'm not sure where else to look
[15:55] <qwebirc42625> thanks
[15:57] <kulelu88> qwebirc42625: try a Lenovo maybe? 
[15:57] <kulelu88> Most laptops are manufactured by like 3 taiwanese companies, so the internals are pretty much the same and kernel support should be reasonable
[15:57] <kulelu88> HPs might work too
[15:58] <kulelu88> although... for R35K, you could order a System76 (or get someone coming from murica to bring it for you)
[15:59] <qwebirc42625> I looked at the system76 but I've seen some terrible reviews lately
[15:59] <qwebirc42625> I'm just trying to avoid getting a mac-book pro
[16:00] <kulelu88> that's true too. 
[16:00] <qwebirc42625> thats what is currently being suggested
[16:00] <kulelu88> what was your last laptop? and are you new here?
[16:00] <qwebirc42625> entroWare would be idea, but not an option
[16:00] <qwebirc42625> I'm using a dell latitude. running ubuntu 100% (apart from the dual graphics card nonsense)
[16:00] <qwebirc42625> and yup, I'm new here :D
[16:01] <kulelu88> Dell XPS Ubuntu edition ?
[16:02] <qwebirc42625> xps 13 is the linux version, xps 15 does is not linux as such
[16:02] <qwebirc42625> tricky....
[16:03] <kulelu88> for R35K, you can get a top end SSD gaming laptop and dual-boot it with Linux and SteamOS
[16:04] <qwebirc42625> ok, thanks I'll take a look. So far I've only see then Acer Predator i7
[16:04] <qwebirc42625> I'll check hp and lenovo then too
[16:04] <kulelu88> introduce yourself before you leave qwebirc42625 :)
[16:10] <qwebirc42625> oh, sorry. Hi I'm Andre :)
[16:10] <qwebirc42625> thanks for the help. I'll look around some more. Doing what I can to avoid Apple.
[16:11] <qwebirc42625> though I guess worst case dual booting on a MBP is not the end of the world
[16:11] <kulelu88> aren't Macs harder to dual-boot than regular Windows laptops?
[16:13] <qwebirc42625> yup apparently
[16:14] <qwebirc42625> + the apple tax means you get a lot less hardware
[16:23] <MaN1> harder to dual boot - I wouldn't really say so
[16:24] <MaN1> but I can't for the life of me imagine why anyone would willingly pay so much more for the same hardware
[16:25] <qwebirc42625> exactly
[16:26] <qwebirc42625> there are some nice asus options
[16:33] <qwebirc42625> sigh, but the asus arog's cause kernel issues for any kernel after 4.3 :'(
[21:03] <melodie> hi