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knightwiseIs this going to be an election free channel today ?06:58
acheronukwhat election?07:00
* acheronuk runs07:00
knightwiseHope so.. have turned off the radio at the office for the day07:01
daftykinsgood morning \o07:01
knightwisehey foobarry07:02
knightwisehey daftykins07:02
daftykinsah ongoing drama with my gas company, they finally get the bill right but magically add 10p to the total on the final line - i'm not entertaining that, so i paid them 10p less :P07:10
knightwiseMy ISP seems to have forgotten about me . Havent received a bill this month07:11
daftykins\o/07:11
daftykinssounds ideal :>07:11
knightwiseyep , looks like it :à)07:11
daftykinshmm gonna try and pop to our local tire and exhaust place later and give away some old mountain bike tires for recycling07:12
daftykinsthey open in 45 mins \o/07:12
knightwisethats nice of you daftykins07:50
daftykinshaha07:51
daftykinsnah nice me is the one that's giving away a load of IT gear for free to the local college i used to work and teach at \o/07:51
knightwisedaftykins: that is also nice :)07:52
* knightwise is working at a charity christmass even, washing dishes at a christmass dinner for the poor and lonely people07:52
knightwisevery rewarding07:52
daftykinsheh these tires really don't fold up though, so i'm going to struggle for a way to take them there... might just have to sling them around my neck as i cycle over07:52
daftykinsah that's very noble!07:52
knightwiseYou will look like chewbacca with his bowcaster belt08:02
daftykinshope not, Star Wars isn't my choice ;)08:02
daftykinsright lets get over there \o/08:03
knightwiseMay the force be with you daftykins08:03
diploMorning all08:37
knightwisehey diplo08:38
daftykinswahoo \o/ tires rid of09:27
daftykinssuch a horrific number of cars crawling toward town of a morning, so good to be on 2 wheels skipping by them all and squeezing into the place you're headed :P09:28
knightwiseCool beans daftykins09:31
daftykins:D09:31
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:36
knightwisehey brobostigon09:36
brobostigonhi knightwise09:36
foobarrymy dog is called chewbacca :D09:36
daftykins:P09:37
knightwisehttps://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/14908281_10154316629782912_234490576626954510_n.jpg?oh=95c2f1287555f1d1866c5fa25e341eac&oe=58D1B3F109:38
knightwisewife in chewbacca tee09:38
* davmor2 calls the rspca, making a dog chew bacca tut tut tut, shame on you09:39
daftykins>:D09:40
zmoylan-piit's cool, he got a spitoon with a picture of a cat on it... :-p09:50
foobarrywe mostly call him chewie10:05
davmor2man it gets worse foobarry has a chewie dog /me redials the rspca with the additional info10:07
foobarrymy crazy neighbour is complaining about a tree on my property10:08
foobarrycomplained to network rail saying their tree overhangs his property. except it doesn't10:08
foobarrylast time they cut cut the bushes down and i got burgled the next daty10:08
foobarryfortunately my wife caught them and they accepted they can't touch it at its not overhangingin anything, hes just a spiteful old man10:09
davmor2foobarry: and you can get off my lawn too10:12
daftykinsit's annoying when old folks spend their efforts on the wrong things10:13
foobarrytell me about it10:16
foobarryhe flung dog poo on my patio unprovoked10:16
foobarrythen mr kipling pies10:16
daftykins!?10:16
foobarryhe painted my bricks in the alleyway and back gate10:16
foobarrybecause he didn't like the colour10:16
daftykins*facepalm*10:17
foobarryhe painted MY side of his fence and dripped paint on my new patio stones10:17
foobarryhe throws sticks with nails in over the fence at my kids and dog10:17
daftykinswow10:17
daftykinspolice won't lift a finger i take it?10:17
foobarryand he said if i don't see him for three months, its because he's gone in the rapture. nobody else is going because we're all devils apparently (even though we're churchgoers , he's a dot cotton/nel mangle fanatic)10:18
foobarryhaven't tried. he's 85 and lies for fun10:18
daftykinsoof10:18
foobarryalso the 7 mice i caught this week are probably something to do with him10:18
diploSet fire to his house sounds a good idea10:18
diplo:)10:19
foobarryits a terrace10:19
daftykinsno doubt! like four-legged drones10:19
daftykinsi still like diplo's idea10:19
diploWell ignore him as best as possible ( he's old and wont be around for ever ) or... annoy the living hell out of him too, the latter could make things worse though :)10:20
diploAs he got no family you can talk to to try and stop it ?10:20
knightwise3fooyou are not kidding10:21
knightwiseman , having a crazy old fart as a neighbour like that is somethin else :(10:22
zmoylan-piat night slip in and pour weedkiller in pentegram on his lawn... :-P10:28
daftykinsooh that's good10:28
popeyfoobarry: my grape vine overhangs next doors garden10:29
popeythey poke it back over our fence10:29
zmoylan-piget a doorbell that plays o fortuna...10:29
daftykinsif they'd complain, popey would hear it through the grapevine... *whistle*10:29
foobarrysince he is retired and crazy his capacity to whinge at network rail and the council about imaginary things is endless10:30
zmoylan-piyou need a low level constant ally against him... throw bird seed on his roof... :-P10:31
foobarryhe doesn't like sycamore seeds flying into his garden so he relentlessly capaigns the council to cut down the ones on the public playing field opposite10:31
popeydoes he live alone?10:31
foobarryyes. his son moved to the other side of the world because of the crazy10:32
foobarryi wave and say hello but he has an almost split personality with capacity for wickedness10:33
zmoylan-piand use every opportunity to fly a drone in yours and only your garden...10:33
foobarrythe neighbours on the other side said they had lived there for 30 years and were glad of the respite now that his attention is on us10:34
zmoylan-pi'just checking the gutters'10:34
foobarryits not old age making him spiteful as he's always been like it10:34
popey:(10:35
foobarryrenowned letter writer to various local papers etc10:35
foobarryhe's ok to your face (if you are a man)10:35
foobarryhe accosted my other neighbours 14yr old daughter at a bus stop with her friends10:35
foobarrytold her in front of her friends she was going to hell for being a catholic10:35
popeyhow delightful10:36
foobarryeverybody's going to hell according to him10:36
foobarryas i say, a fanatic in a league of his own10:36
knightwiseMust be very lonely ... going through life like that10:36
zmoylan-pipicking on kids is way out... and he remains unpunched?10:36
foobarrythe plsit personality means he is quite sociable but VERY manipulative10:37
daftykinszmoylan-pi's brother is available for hire ;D10:37
zmoylan-piyou don't do this for money... you do it because it's right...10:37
daftykinswell i don't think it'd make anything better10:38
zmoylan-piyou make the old fart go nuts fightig an invisible 'enemy' that only he's aware of10:38
foobarryi've forgiven him and i'm nice to him but i'm wary of his capacity to do bad things and attempting to control others10:38
foobarrybecause i know he won't stop10:39
TwistedLucidityWe'll all be old some day. Sounds like he needs to be in a care home.10:39
foobarrymy mum reckons he's been like it for 40 years10:39
foobarryshe remembers him from the olden days10:39
zmoylan-pithis is not an old thing, this is a control thing, he sounds like a control freak10:39
foobarryyes10:40
foobarryobviously on meds...sometimes10:40
zmoylan-pii *love* breaking those people...10:40
zmoylan-pifirst rule 'love thine enemy, it drives them even more nuts'10:40
foobarrygonna set up a raspberry pi camera  discretely10:41
foobarryhard to get the right angle though10:41
foobarryhe even took offence to me getting a burgalr alarm10:41
zmoylan-pii'd use wildlife cams in garden... put a bird feeder in for it to watch too...10:41
diddledanomg, they ruined it! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-3790470312:29
zmoylan-pii saw... it's horrible12:29
davmor2diddledan: it's because they don't make enough money with the rest of the chunks in12:30
zmoylan-piit's deception12:30
foobarrythey want to get in the news12:31
foobarrythey will change it back next week12:31
foobarryalso, now want chocolate12:32
* zmoylan-pi moseys to shop in rain for milk for tea...12:34
popeyI'm off to Germany soon, I'll bring back loads of Toblerone from the airport and sell it on ebay here :D12:36
diddledanoh golly, I forgot, it's US election day12:36
foobarrytoday?12:40
foobarrywhen is the result12:40
popey4-5am tomorrow12:40
foobarryalthough we all know the result is guaranteed bad12:40
popeycould be longer if 'hanging chads' like GWB first election12:40
diddledanI've been told to watch pensylvania, ohio, and florida as key states12:42
foobarryhanging chads are a euphemism for tricky poos12:43
diddledanlmao12:43
popeylulz http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-3790929912:45
* daftykins fights to get his chair back from the cat - and sits down13:23
* diddledan curls-up on daftykins' lap13:24
daftykins* chair breaks13:24
diddledanwhen you realise how huge I am, you'd see how hilarious it is that I would try curling-up on _anyone's_ lap :-p13:24
diddledanin other news, cute kitty cuddles ftw!13:25
zmoylan-pithe trick is to have a nice cushion on the chair.  the cat will sleep on that.  then you can pick up the cushion and put it on your lap so cat is not too disturbed13:25
daftykinsah well i have a whole sofa beside me here that she can claim for her own whilst i'm at the desk :>13:25
zmoylan-piand you can also leave for loo/cup of tea by moving cushion as well13:25
directhexdaf13:32
directhexgah13:32
daftykinsfy duck13:32
directhexdaftykins: i have a carrier bag on my desk. my cat *hates* carrier bags. i just crinkle it near her to reclaim any surface13:32
daftykinshehe13:32
diddledanyou big meanie :-p13:32
popeyhah13:34
daftykinsmust be something about folk with nicks starting 'di' *whistle*13:39
diddledan/nick dingleberry13:49
diddledanoh wait, that still begins with 'di' >.<13:50
daftykinsXD13:50
daftykinsthe faciest of palms13:50
diddledan:-D13:50
diddledan/nick dinosaurdan13:51
diddledan>.<13:51
diddledanstill 'di' :-p13:51
daftykinscottoneyedan13:53
foobarrywhat do i want for chrimstas from the in-laws?13:53
diddledanfoobarry: knickers13:55
foobarryhttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/antsylabs/fidget-cube-a-vinyl-desk-toy ?13:56
diddledanerr.. pants **13:56
diddledan:-p13:56
daftykinshave them move in next door, whilst the old man is still there13:58
foobarryforgot to mention the old man often answers teh door bare chested and hangs his y-fronts in the porch to dry13:58
=== zmoylan-pi is now known as dyddledan
=== dyddledan is now known as zmoylan-pi
daftykinshttp://www.raintoday.co.uk/ - umm, it's cooooooming!14:23
diddledangawd14:24
Laneymight opt to not cycle to the pub quiz later ._.14:51
daftykins:D14:53
foobarrydoes anyone know if you lose ssh connections if ASA firewall rules are reloaded?15:17
diddledanfoobarry: locked yourself out of a cisco?15:23
foobarrykeep losing ssh connections15:23
foobarrysuspect its when an ASA reloads changes15:23
foobarryssh connection thru the fw15:23
MartijnVdSfoobarry: it probably forgets its connection tracking state, and with it your ssh connection?15:36
MartijnVdSI've seen that a ton on Linux routers15:36
foobarryiptables doesn't though15:36
foobarryi reload that all the time15:36
foobarryand its not ssh keepliave issues15:37
MartijnVdSyeah but isnt "reload" on Cisco "reboot" on other devices?15:37
foobarrythese are active non idle sessions15:37
foobarrythats what i need to find out15:37
dogmatic69is it possible to use the "host" machines keyring when sshing to another machine?15:41
dogmatic69eg: make the ssh session use keyring on the host... if that makes any sense15:41
MartijnVdSdogmatic69: yes. Just don't forward your agent (it's insecure anyway), and it should pick keys from ~/.ssh/ on the host you shelled into15:42
dogmatic69not quite15:42
MartijnVdSif you want in-memory/stored keys, you can use something like "keychain"15:42
dogmatic69I am tyring to make credential.helper work on the sshed machine15:42
dogmatic69which uses gnomekeyring or something, but as I am sshed in it does not work. but my host is also ubuntu15:43
dogmatic69sorry credential.helper == git credential.helper15:43
MartijnVdSI don't think you can use gnome-keyring without a graphical session15:43
MartijnVdSso just use plain ssh-agent ;)15:43
dogmatic69nice15:47
dogmatic69got it working15:47
dogmatic69done: $(ssh-agent); ssh-add15:47
dogmatic69prompted for pw and that was it.15:47
=== ahayzen_ is now known as ahayzen
diddledanhttps://twitter.com/bobbyllew/status/79601869876303872015:58
brobostigonhttp://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/cm14-is-landing18:32
diddledanhas america destroyed the world yet?18:55
zmoylan-pi04:30 tomorrow see you then o/18:55
davmor2diddledan: just for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY19:09
diddledan:-)19:09
davmor2diddledan: and hopefully here is trumps anthem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgSPaXgAdzE19:11
diddledanhttps://vine.co/v/553MMpAg2Ma20:43
diddledanI bet america has the biggest cyber20:44
diddledanwhen I was a teen, "cyber" meant x-rated chat20:44
zmoylan-pihadn't even made scifi books when i was a kid...20:45
diddledan"wanna cyber" was a common first utterance on AOL instant messenger20:45
zmoylan-pi1991 for first usage...20:45
diddledanearly results are in: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/archive/Trump%20wins%20by%20landslide22:38
diddledanoh wait, https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/archive/Correction,%20Trump%20arrested%20for%20treason.%20Did%20not%20win%20election.22:38
diddledanthen there's https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/archive/I%20have%20the%20best%20web%20developers.%20Everyone%20says%20how%20great%20they%20are22:39
diddledanI think I've worked-out the best option: https://twitter.com/GeekNation/status/79606021206707814422:42
zmoylan-pii thought it was buy all the toblerone bars and hope you find a golden ticket for first trip to mars in it...22:43

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