[06:58] <knightwise> Is this going to be an election free channel today ?
[07:00] <acheronuk> what election?
[07:00]  * acheronuk runs
[07:01] <knightwise> Hope so.. have turned off the radio at the office for the day
[07:01] <daftykins> good morning \o
[07:02] <knightwise> hey foobarry
[07:02] <knightwise> hey daftykins
[07:10] <daftykins> ah ongoing drama with my gas company, they finally get the bill right but magically add 10p to the total on the final line - i'm not entertaining that, so i paid them 10p less :P
[07:11] <knightwise> My ISP seems to have forgotten about me . Havent received a bill this month
[07:11] <daftykins> \o/
[07:11] <daftykins> sounds ideal :>
[07:11] <knightwise> yep , looks like it :à)
[07:12] <daftykins> hmm gonna try and pop to our local tire and exhaust place later and give away some old mountain bike tires for recycling
[07:12] <daftykins> they open in 45 mins \o/
[07:50] <knightwise> thats nice of you daftykins
[07:51] <daftykins> haha
[07:51] <daftykins> nah nice me is the one that's giving away a load of IT gear for free to the local college i used to work and teach at \o/
[07:52] <knightwise> daftykins: that is also nice :)
[07:52]  * knightwise is working at a charity christmass even, washing dishes at a christmass dinner for the poor and lonely people
[07:52] <knightwise> very rewarding
[07:52] <daftykins> heh these tires really don't fold up though, so i'm going to struggle for a way to take them there... might just have to sling them around my neck as i cycle over
[07:52] <daftykins> ah that's very noble!
[08:02] <knightwise> You will look like chewbacca with his bowcaster belt
[08:02] <daftykins> hope not, Star Wars isn't my choice ;)
[08:03] <daftykins> right lets get over there \o/
[08:03] <knightwise> May the force be with you daftykins
[08:37] <diplo> Morning all
[08:38] <knightwise> hey diplo
[09:27] <daftykins> wahoo \o/ tires rid of
[09:28] <daftykins> such a horrific number of cars crawling toward town of a morning, so good to be on 2 wheels skipping by them all and squeezing into the place you're headed :P
[09:31] <knightwise> Cool beans daftykins
[09:31] <daftykins> :D
[09:36] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:36] <knightwise> hey brobostigon
[09:36] <brobostigon> hi knightwise
[09:36] <foobarry> my dog is called chewbacca :D
[09:37] <daftykins> :P
[09:38] <knightwise> https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/14908281_10154316629782912_234490576626954510_n.jpg?oh=95c2f1287555f1d1866c5fa25e341eac&oe=58D1B3F1
[09:38] <knightwise> wife in chewbacca tee
[09:39]  * davmor2 calls the rspca, making a dog chew bacca tut tut tut, shame on you
[09:40] <daftykins> >:D
[09:50] <zmoylan-pi> it's cool, he got a spitoon with a picture of a cat on it... :-p
[10:05] <foobarry> we mostly call him chewie
[10:07] <davmor2> man it gets worse foobarry has a chewie dog /me redials the rspca with the additional info
[10:08] <foobarry> my crazy neighbour is complaining about a tree on my property
[10:08] <foobarry> complained to network rail saying their tree overhangs his property. except it doesn't
[10:08] <foobarry> last time they cut cut the bushes down and i got burgled the next daty
[10:09] <foobarry> fortunately my wife caught them and they accepted they can't touch it at its not overhangingin anything, hes just a spiteful old man
[10:12] <davmor2> foobarry: and you can get off my lawn too
[10:13] <daftykins> it's annoying when old folks spend their efforts on the wrong things
[10:16] <foobarry> tell me about it
[10:16] <foobarry> he flung dog poo on my patio unprovoked
[10:16] <foobarry> then mr kipling pies
[10:16] <daftykins> !?
[10:16] <foobarry> he painted my bricks in the alleyway and back gate
[10:16] <foobarry> because he didn't like the colour
[10:17] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[10:17] <foobarry> he painted MY side of his fence and dripped paint on my new patio stones
[10:17] <foobarry> he throws sticks with nails in over the fence at my kids and dog
[10:17] <daftykins> wow
[10:17] <daftykins> police won't lift a finger i take it?
[10:18] <foobarry> and he said if i don't see him for three months, its because he's gone in the rapture. nobody else is going because we're all devils apparently (even though we're churchgoers , he's a dot cotton/nel mangle fanatic)
[10:18] <foobarry> haven't tried. he's 85 and lies for fun
[10:18] <daftykins> oof
[10:18] <foobarry> also the 7 mice i caught this week are probably something to do with him
[10:18] <diplo> Set fire to his house sounds a good idea
[10:19] <diplo> :)
[10:19] <foobarry> its a terrace
[10:19] <daftykins> no doubt! like four-legged drones
[10:19] <daftykins> i still like diplo's idea
[10:20] <diplo> Well ignore him as best as possible ( he's old and wont be around for ever ) or... annoy the living hell out of him too, the latter could make things worse though :)
[10:20] <diplo> As he got no family you can talk to to try and stop it ?
[10:21] <knightwise> 3fooyou are not kidding
[10:22] <knightwise> man , having a crazy old fart as a neighbour like that is somethin else :(
[10:28] <zmoylan-pi> at night slip in and pour weedkiller in pentegram on his lawn... :-P
[10:28] <daftykins> ooh that's good
[10:29] <popey> foobarry: my grape vine overhangs next doors garden
[10:29] <popey> they poke it back over our fence
[10:29] <zmoylan-pi> get a doorbell that plays o fortuna...
[10:29] <daftykins> if they'd complain, popey would hear it through the grapevine... *whistle*
[10:30] <foobarry> since he is retired and crazy his capacity to whinge at network rail and the council about imaginary things is endless
[10:31] <zmoylan-pi> you need a low level constant ally against him... throw bird seed on his roof... :-P
[10:31] <foobarry> he doesn't like sycamore seeds flying into his garden so he relentlessly capaigns the council to cut down the ones on the public playing field opposite
[10:31] <popey> does he live alone?
[10:32] <foobarry> yes. his son moved to the other side of the world because of the crazy
[10:33] <foobarry> i wave and say hello but he has an almost split personality with capacity for wickedness
[10:33] <zmoylan-pi> and use every opportunity to fly a drone in yours and only your garden...
[10:34] <foobarry> the neighbours on the other side said they had lived there for 30 years and were glad of the respite now that his attention is on us
[10:34] <zmoylan-pi> 'just checking the gutters'
[10:34] <foobarry> its not old age making him spiteful as he's always been like it
[10:35] <popey> :(
[10:35] <foobarry> renowned letter writer to various local papers etc
[10:35] <foobarry> he's ok to your face (if you are a man)
[10:35] <foobarry> he accosted my other neighbours 14yr old daughter at a bus stop with her friends
[10:35] <foobarry> told her in front of her friends she was going to hell for being a catholic
[10:36] <popey> how delightful
[10:36] <foobarry> everybody's going to hell according to him
[10:36] <foobarry> as i say, a fanatic in a league of his own
[10:36] <knightwise> Must be very lonely ... going through life like that
[10:36] <zmoylan-pi> picking on kids is way out... and he remains unpunched?
[10:37] <foobarry> the plsit personality means he is quite sociable but VERY manipulative
[10:37] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi's brother is available for hire ;D
[10:37] <zmoylan-pi> you don't do this for money... you do it because it's right...
[10:38] <daftykins> well i don't think it'd make anything better
[10:38] <zmoylan-pi> you make the old fart go nuts fightig an invisible 'enemy' that only he's aware of
[10:38] <foobarry> i've forgiven him and i'm nice to him but i'm wary of his capacity to do bad things and attempting to control others
[10:39] <foobarry> because i know he won't stop
[10:39] <TwistedLucidity> We'll all be old some day. Sounds like he needs to be in a care home.
[10:39] <foobarry> my mum reckons he's been like it for 40 years
[10:39] <foobarry> she remembers him from the olden days
[10:39] <zmoylan-pi> this is not an old thing, this is a control thing, he sounds like a control freak
[10:40] <foobarry> yes
[10:40] <foobarry> obviously on meds...sometimes
[10:40] <zmoylan-pi> i *love* breaking those people...
[10:40] <zmoylan-pi> first rule 'love thine enemy, it drives them even more nuts'
[10:41] <foobarry> gonna set up a raspberry pi camera  discretely
[10:41] <foobarry> hard to get the right angle though
[10:41] <foobarry> he even took offence to me getting a burgalr alarm
[10:41] <zmoylan-pi> i'd use wildlife cams in garden... put a bird feeder in for it to watch too...
[12:29] <diddledan> omg, they ruined it! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37904703
[12:29] <zmoylan-pi> i saw... it's horrible
[12:30] <davmor2> diddledan: it's because they don't make enough money with the rest of the chunks in
[12:30] <zmoylan-pi> it's deception
[12:31] <foobarry> they want to get in the news
[12:31] <foobarry> they will change it back next week
[12:32] <foobarry> also, now want chocolate
[12:34]  * zmoylan-pi moseys to shop in rain for milk for tea...
[12:36] <popey> I'm off to Germany soon, I'll bring back loads of Toblerone from the airport and sell it on ebay here :D
[12:36] <diddledan> oh golly, I forgot, it's US election day
[12:40] <foobarry> today?
[12:40] <foobarry> when is the result
[12:40] <popey> 4-5am tomorrow
[12:40] <foobarry> although we all know the result is guaranteed bad
[12:40] <popey> could be longer if 'hanging chads' like GWB first election
[12:42] <diddledan> I've been told to watch pensylvania, ohio, and florida as key states
[12:43] <foobarry> hanging chads are a euphemism for tricky poos
[12:43] <diddledan> lmao
[12:45] <popey> lulz http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-37909299
[13:23]  * daftykins fights to get his chair back from the cat - and sits down
[13:24]  * diddledan curls-up on daftykins' lap
[13:24] <daftykins> * chair breaks
[13:24] <diddledan> when you realise how huge I am, you'd see how hilarious it is that I would try curling-up on _anyone's_ lap :-p
[13:25] <diddledan> in other news, cute kitty cuddles ftw!
[13:25] <zmoylan-pi> the trick is to have a nice cushion on the chair.  the cat will sleep on that.  then you can pick up the cushion and put it on your lap so cat is not too disturbed
[13:25] <daftykins> ah well i have a whole sofa beside me here that she can claim for her own whilst i'm at the desk :>
[13:25] <zmoylan-pi> and you can also leave for loo/cup of tea by moving cushion as well
[13:32] <directhex> daf
[13:32] <directhex> gah
[13:32] <daftykins> fy duck
[13:32] <directhex> daftykins: i have a carrier bag on my desk. my cat *hates* carrier bags. i just crinkle it near her to reclaim any surface
[13:32] <daftykins> hehe
[13:32] <diddledan> you big meanie :-p
[13:34] <popey> hah
[13:39] <daftykins> must be something about folk with nicks starting 'di' *whistle*
[13:49] <diddledan> /nick dingleberry
[13:50] <diddledan> oh wait, that still begins with 'di' >.<
[13:50] <daftykins> XD
[13:50] <daftykins> the faciest of palms
[13:50] <diddledan> :-D
[13:51] <diddledan> /nick dinosaurdan
[13:51] <diddledan> >.<
[13:51] <diddledan> still 'di' :-p
[13:53] <daftykins> cottoneyedan
[13:53] <foobarry> what do i want for chrimstas from the in-laws?
[13:55] <diddledan> foobarry: knickers
[13:56] <foobarry> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/antsylabs/fidget-cube-a-vinyl-desk-toy ?
[13:56] <diddledan> err.. pants **
[13:56] <diddledan> :-p
[13:58] <daftykins> have them move in next door, whilst the old man is still there
[13:58] <foobarry> forgot to mention the old man often answers teh door bare chested and hangs his y-fronts in the porch to dry
[14:23] <daftykins> http://www.raintoday.co.uk/ - umm, it's cooooooming!
[14:24] <diddledan> gawd
[14:51] <Laney> might opt to not cycle to the pub quiz later ._.
[14:53] <daftykins> :D
[15:17] <foobarry> does anyone know if you lose ssh connections if ASA firewall rules are reloaded?
[15:23] <diddledan> foobarry: locked yourself out of a cisco?
[15:23] <foobarry> keep losing ssh connections
[15:23] <foobarry> suspect its when an ASA reloads changes
[15:23] <foobarry> ssh connection thru the fw
[15:36] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: it probably forgets its connection tracking state, and with it your ssh connection?
[15:36] <MartijnVdS> I've seen that a ton on Linux routers
[15:36] <foobarry> iptables doesn't though
[15:36] <foobarry> i reload that all the time
[15:37] <foobarry> and its not ssh keepliave issues
[15:37] <MartijnVdS> yeah but isnt "reload" on Cisco "reboot" on other devices?
[15:37] <foobarry> these are active non idle sessions
[15:37] <foobarry> thats what i need to find out
[15:41] <dogmatic69> is it possible to use the "host" machines keyring when sshing to another machine?
[15:41] <dogmatic69> eg: make the ssh session use keyring on the host... if that makes any sense
[15:42] <MartijnVdS> dogmatic69: yes. Just don't forward your agent (it's insecure anyway), and it should pick keys from ~/.ssh/ on the host you shelled into
[15:42] <dogmatic69> not quite
[15:42] <MartijnVdS> if you want in-memory/stored keys, you can use something like "keychain"
[15:42] <dogmatic69> I am tyring to make credential.helper work on the sshed machine
[15:43] <dogmatic69> which uses gnomekeyring or something, but as I am sshed in it does not work. but my host is also ubuntu
[15:43] <dogmatic69> sorry credential.helper == git credential.helper
[15:43] <MartijnVdS> I don't think you can use gnome-keyring without a graphical session
[15:43] <MartijnVdS> so just use plain ssh-agent ;)
[15:47] <dogmatic69> nice
[15:47] <dogmatic69> got it working
[15:47] <dogmatic69> done: $(ssh-agent); ssh-add
[15:47] <dogmatic69> prompted for pw and that was it.
[15:58] <diddledan> https://twitter.com/bobbyllew/status/796018698763038720
[18:32] <brobostigon> http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/cm14-is-landing
[18:55] <diddledan> has america destroyed the world yet?
[18:55] <zmoylan-pi> 04:30 tomorrow see you then o/
[19:09] <davmor2> diddledan: just for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY
[19:09] <diddledan> :-)
[19:11] <davmor2> diddledan: and hopefully here is trumps anthem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgSPaXgAdzE
[20:43] <diddledan> https://vine.co/v/553MMpAg2Ma
[20:44] <diddledan> I bet america has the biggest cyber
[20:44] <diddledan> when I was a teen, "cyber" meant x-rated chat
[20:45] <zmoylan-pi> hadn't even made scifi books when i was a kid...
[20:45] <diddledan> "wanna cyber" was a common first utterance on AOL instant messenger
[20:45] <zmoylan-pi> 1991 for first usage...
[22:38] <diddledan> early results are in: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/archive/Trump%20wins%20by%20landslide
[22:38] <diddledan> oh wait, https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/archive/Correction,%20Trump%20arrested%20for%20treason.%20Did%20not%20win%20election.
[22:39] <diddledan> then there's https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/archive/I%20have%20the%20best%20web%20developers.%20Everyone%20says%20how%20great%20they%20are
[22:42] <diddledan> I think I've worked-out the best option: https://twitter.com/GeekNation/status/796060212067078144
[22:43] <zmoylan-pi> i thought it was buy all the toblerone bars and hope you find a golden ticket for first trip to mars in it...