[02:27] <giovoni> hello
[02:27] <giovoni> is there anyway to fix an icon that isn't showing right in the notification area?
[05:57] <sabrehagen> can somebody share with me their /usr/share/X11/xkv/symbols/pc file? i trashed mine
[06:06] <sabrehagen> pleeeeeease
[06:07] <cfhowlett> sabrehagen, ask #ubuntu
[06:07] <sabrehagen> ty
[13:17] <sorinello_> Something is a little meesed up when working with dual monitors on latest Xubuntu. 16.04 was ok, but now it's a little bit harder to setup, might even involve a restart. I don't think this is Xubuntu related, maybe more to XFCE - Display app. Did anyone encounter issues with this ?
[16:26] <non-expert-xubun> Does anybody know where I can find the documentation for Network Manager in xubuntu?
[16:27] <non-expert-xubun> I want to create a new connection bonding device, using two wifi connections. Network manager has this functionality, it seems, but I can't find it in the official manual.
[16:34] <non-expert-xubun> If you try to add a new connection in network manager, 'bond' is one of the choices. I can't believe that this isn't documented somewhere. Does network manager have a webpage?
[16:40] <non-expert-xubun> Or is it some kind of secret information?
[16:41] <akxwi-dave> non-expert-xubun:  it may be worth trying in channel #nm
[16:42] <akxwi-dave> thats the dedicated network manager channel.
[16:43] <akxwi-dave> or try here https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/NetworkManager
[16:43] <non-expert-xubun> Thanks. I am trying that.
[17:14] <non-expert-xubun> There is no response on #nm
[17:15] <non-expert-xubun> It's one of the functions in xubuntu and should be documented.
[17:16] <non-expert-xubun> What I can find, as options: 1) wait on irc, or 2) join the nm developer mailing list. Incredible.
[18:29] <non-expert999> So I went over to #nm and asked, but they don't have any documentation of connection bonding that is tailored to Ubuntu, only Red Hat. So - if I understand this correctly, Ubuntu, including Xubuntu, has a functionality in the graphical Network Manager which is not documented anywhere. It's possible to click where it says add 'bond' interface, and play around with the configuration, but there is no documentation.
[18:30] <non-expert999> I don't know if this means developers think this is such a rarely used feature that it's a waste of time to write documentation, but if it's so rarely used it might as well be removed entirely.
[18:31] <flocculant> developers don't write the documentation here, people do, you're a people - write it then mail it to the dev mailing list https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel
[18:31] <flocculant> then it'll at least get into the Xubuntu documentation
[18:32] <flocculant> you could also do it at ubuntu wiki - then everyone can benefit
[18:37] <non-expert999> OK, I might do that, if/when I find out how to set it up.
[18:42] <flocculant> cool
[18:44] <non-expert999> I think it would be a nice feature, to combine/thread connections.
[18:45] <flocculant> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding
[18:45] <flocculant> is that what you're talking about?
[18:45] <flocculant> not going to be of anymore help though - no idea what it is ;)
[18:45] <non-expert999> Yeah, I tried that, but ran into some error message related to the startup
[18:46] <non-expert999> bonding is that you can use two (or more) connections "as if" they were one connection, and thus increase the speed  or better balance the load
[18:48] <non-expert999> the typical setup is if you have an ethernet cable and a wifi connection, you can use bonding to let the computer use the ethernet by default, but switch seamlessly to wifi whenever the ethernet is downn
[18:48] <non-expert999> or use both to increase speed
[22:27] <sewerrat> Hey, trying to set up fstab for an internal hdd, could anyone tell me what is the problem with the following: UUID=b483c85b-f952-42e2-88c6-df7448a8a341 /home ext4 defaults 0 2
[22:33] <Spass> sewerrat: Are you sure you want to mount it in /home?
[22:35] <sewerrat> Yes, is there any reason why i should not? im a beginner.
[22:37] <Spass> I'm not an advanced user either, but I don't think /home is recommended as the mounting directory.
[22:37] <Spass> Here's my line for an internal HDD - http://paste.ubuntu.com/23448542/
[22:38] <sewerrat> Ok, will have a look.
[22:38] <knome> sewerrat, at what stage are you at?
[22:38] <knome> are you about to install, or have you installed already?
[22:38] <sewerrat> Already installed.
[22:38] <knome> ok, and you didn't specify to mount this particular partition at installation time?
[22:39] <sewerrat> Fresh install last night and just got it to detect my second hdd.
[22:39] <knome> okay, in that case you already have /home
[22:39] <knome> so mounting to the same target will not work
[22:39] <knome> (even if you don't have a specific partition for it, it'll be created on the / partition)
[22:40] <sewerrat> So if i would specify /home as mounting for my second hdd, it will automatically mount on / instead?
[22:40] <knome> no.
[22:41] <knome> your fstab will either already have a partition mounted to /home or /
[22:41] <sewerrat> Oh, i see.
[22:41] <knome> regardless of that, /home exists already
[22:41] <knome> mounting to an existing target won't work
[22:41] <sewerrat> So the simplest way to get the second hdd to mount at /home would be to reinstall and set it from there?
[22:43] <knome> if you are not very familiar with the directory structure, partition and that kind of stuff, then that's likely the "simplest" way
[22:43] <knome> note that even if you do that, /home is a system directory
[22:43] <knome> so you will always have user directories inside
[22:44] <sewerrat> Ok, i think i understand, correct me if im wrong; If i would to be mount it in /home/username/Afolder would that work?
[22:45] <sewerrat> since Afolder is a user directory?
[22:45] <knome> as it's on a different HDD, i'm not actually sure
[22:45] <knome> anyway, i wouldn't do that
[22:45] <knome> why don't you mount it at /data, then create a symlink in your home directory?
[22:46] <sewerrat> Ok, thank you for your time and help, I will try that!
[22:46] <knome> np, have fun
[23:14] <sewerrat> Knome, everything worked fine with mounting at /data, and i managed to create system links from my home folder to /data for storage, thank you for your help again.
[23:15] <knome> glad to hear it worked out well for you