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hdon__hi all :) i want to issue a command that will apt update && apt upgrade && apt install foo -- but without interactive prompts. "-y" option seems insufficient. any advice?00:05
ejwhy is -y insufficient?00:06
th0rthere are some packages that will pause during install and wait for a response.00:08
OerHeksmaybe 2 times -y: apt update && apt upgrade -y && apt install foo -y00:09
OerHeksor start with -y00:09
FinalXhdon__: DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get00:10
FinalXso, "DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get update" for instance.00:10
ArrEmmArrEffcan you have encrypted lvm AND a seperate /home?00:11
aciculaArrEmmArrEff: how do you mean separate home?00:12
bekksArrEmmArrEff: Sure.00:12
ArrEmmArrEffim currently sacrificing encryption for a seperate home partitioni00:12
ArrEmmArrEffwhich would i have to set up first?00:12
aciculayou can encrypt the separate home partition yes00:12
ArrEmmArrEfftheres no way to do it in the installer00:12
ArrEmmArrEffi have laptop with 20gb ssd and 320gb hdd i installed to the ssd for speed and moved my /home to the hdd00:13
ArrEmmArrEffi liked that it would ask during boot for the encryption passkey00:14
ArrEmmArrEffbut if i seperate the /home in the installer i lose my encrypt option00:15
aciculayeah i understand, i dont know how to set that up in the installer00:15
ArrEmmArrEffi dont think its possible to do both just one or the other00:15
bekksArrEmmArrEff: you could use the ubuntu server install iso for doing so.00:15
ArrEmmArrEffreally bekks ? does it differ much from the desktop?00:16
aciculai think you just get more options in the text based installer?00:16
ArrEmmArrEffits just personal laptop00:16
bekksArrEmmArrEff: the installer gives you quite more options. Liking pointlessly mixing full disk encryption and ecryptfs.00:16
bekks*server installer00:16
ArrEmmArrEffwicked00:16
ArrEmmArrEffthanks bekks and acicula00:17
bekksArrEmmArrEff: Just think about wether encrypting your /home isnt enough.00:17
acicula(dont use ecryptfs and fde at the same time though)00:17
ArrEmmArrEffwhat do you mean bekks00:18
aciculai think he wants to encrypt both, but the installer only lets him encrypt the /00:18
ArrEmmArrEffi just dont want my data readable by extracting my hdd00:18
ArrEmmArrEffyes acicula00:18
ArrEmmArrEffi was hoping for the screen during boot that asks for the encryption passcode00:18
aciculai think if dm-crypt is installed that is what happens00:20
bekksArrEmmArrEff: WHICH data? your / or your /home ?00:20
bekksArrEmmArrEff: and you still can use FDE with creating a crypted LVM spanning both disks.00:21
ArrEmmArrEfflol sorry bekks my /home data. i dont think theres much in /system or /boot i need to worry about right?00:21
bekksArrEmmArrEff: Correct. So you are totally fine with just encrypting /home.00:21
ArrEmmArrEffbekks!! but i only get an option do do so on the server iso? right00:22
Guest43hi guys. on Ubuntu 16.04 if I issue shutdown -h now && exit, I get a different exit code (not 0) than I was getting with ubuntu 14.04. How can I get exit code 0 please?00:22
ArrEmmArrEffok awesome00:22
bekksArrEmmArrEff: you can encrypt /home from the desktop installer.00:22
ArrEmmArrEffbekks!! even if it on a seperate disk ?00:23
bekksArrEmmArrEff: Sure.00:23
ArrEmmArrEffbekks!! ugh haha i tried and tried and as soon as i try to move my /home it grays out the encrypt option00:24
bekksArrEmmArrEff: how do you "move" your /home in the installer?00:24
ArrEmmArrEffediting the partition scheme from default to put /home on sdb00:25
bekksArrEmmArrEff: do so and just select "encrypt" then, for /home.00:26
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ArrEmmArrEffok bekks ill give it another shot i was pretty sure once i moved the /home it would not let me chose to encrypt tho00:27
ArrEmmArrEffbekks!! its the screen that says install ubuntu along side existing, install only ubuntu overwriting the disk, encrypt the full disk, or something else00:28
bekksArrEmmArrEff: and you want something else...00:29
ArrEmmArrEffand i have to chose "something else" to get the partitioin editor to move my /home00:29
ArrEmmArrEffya00:29
bekksArrEmmArrEff: And?00:29
ArrEmmArrEffand then i didnt see an option to encrypt after that00:29
ArrEmmArrEffunless im real dumb and missed it somehow00:30
bekksArrEmmArrEff: So create a LVM volume group spanning both disks... as pointed out above.00:30
ArrEmmArrEfflvm group... ok i dont think i did that00:30
sector327anyone available to help troubleshoot gnome shell integration issue?00:35
sector327I am running UB 16.04LTS, gnome desktop and I had gnome shell integration extension installed on chromium when I was running fedora. Now that I have installed UB, I log into chromium with my google account, it loads all my bookmarks, extensions etc and now I get a constant pop up that there is a Gnome Shell Integration error. "no such interface 'org.gnome.Shell.Extensions' on...???00:35
sector327here's a pic of the errors that keep popping up - https://s16.postimg.org/cxunzvnj9/2016_11_08_10_50_25.jpg00:37
ArrEmmArrEffthx again bekks00:42
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makoyaHello guys00:52
makoyaI am new to linux00:52
makoyaWhat are the essentials after installing ubuntu00:53
Bashing-om!manual | makoya00:53
ubottumakoya: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/00:53
sector327makoya, that's a HUGE question.00:53
OerHeksuse it.00:53
makoyaoh, thanks00:54
sector327makoya, as much as I hate to say "google it", there's lots of bloggers that give tips and tricks on just that very thing00:54
sector327http://www.webupd8.org/2016/04/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-1604-lts-xenial-xerus.html00:54
OerHekstons of guides 'what to do after installing ubuntu' with lots of tips and PPA's and sometimes wrong advise, read them all00:54
makoyai have ubuntu 14.04 and my system prompts to upgrade00:55
makoyai only did apt-get update00:55
sector327OerHeks, I agree. read them all and take the common parts as a safer bet00:56
sector327makoya, updating to 16.04 is a good bet. personally I don't like to upgrade. just back up your home directory, do a fresh 16.04 install. I find its just cleaner that way00:57
OerHeksPoe's Law: always upgrade00:58
Bashing-ommakoya: 14.04 is supported 'tol April of 2019, whereas 16.04 embraces systemd as the inititate system and is the wave of the future. Maybe good to get into systemd now as opposed to the older ways ??00:59
makoyasector327, am I good without updating..ignore the grammar, english is not my first language, last time i installed ubuntu 16,04 it was not shutting down00:59
elisa87http://askubuntu.com/questions/847286/importerror-no-module-named-cffi01:01
sector327makoya, you're fine wihtout updating as it is still supported. If you are just learning though, I would go to 16.04 as OerHeks suggested01:04
Echo6I'm getting an error that says that my partitions are set beyond the end of the device. I had restored a backed up 64GB SDCard to another 64GB SDCard from a different manufacturer. How do I adjust it? I know that it is currently set to 5,582,080 and the end of the device is at 5,570,432.01:05
OerHekssector327, not saying upgrade to 16.044, but just getting the lists is not enough.01:06
OerHeksbut ubuntu happen to update in the background, that is the message/gui he has seen01:07
makoyais it really worth it to migrate from ubuntu 14.04 to 16.0401:09
OerHeksDepends on your hardware and needs, some fresh hw have benefit, some services are newer, like php 701:11
energizerwhat can I do about this apt authentication error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23449002/01:11
OerHeksenergizer, get the key for W: GPG error: http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt xenial-pgdg01:12
OerHeksmust be on the page you got that repo from01:12
makoyais it really worth it to migrate from ubuntu 14.04 to 16.0401:12
sector327makoya, that is up to you. As mentioned, if you are new and will be learning, you should learn the "new version"01:13
energizerOerHeks: perfect, thanks01:15
makoyathanks01:15
energizerOerHeks: i've never understood how all that stuff works, is there a good introductory resource for packaging,keys,auth, etc?01:16
makoyalet me do a fresh install, see you guys, I have to rufus on windows01:16
OerHekshttps://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA or in depth http://packaging.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-packaging-guide.pdf01:18
Bashing-ommakoya: As you have unubtu installed ..you do not "have" to rufus .. in linux we can 'dd' a .iso file to convert to a install medium .01:18
energizerOerHeks: ill check it out, thanks01:19
saucyboodsaucybood:donkey1401:24
saucyboodnuts01:24
guest1110101I've been experiencing a problem noticing Ubuntu on a dual boot until I'd run EasyUEFI and forced ubuntu to the top of the boot order.01:31
guest1110101This doesn't fix my problem however as I need both Windows and Linux for my work.. now that I have access to linux, how do I force a menu to appear to boot into either windows or Linux?01:32
guest1110101I'd made sure to tell the program to let me boot into windows on restart in case I couldn't boot into the new install of Ubuntu on the 400 gb partition using EasyUEFI..01:33
guest1110101What can I do to take advantage of this current system while it's booted?01:34
Bashing-omguest1110101: I would expect terminal command ' sudo update-grub ' to do that .01:34
guest1110101thank you.. I'll try that01:34
sector327guest1110101, I would abandon dual boot and just use a virtual machine instead01:35
guest1110101cant01:35
sector327otherwise you'll always battle grub updating everytime you upgrade. (at least to me I did)01:35
guest1110101I don't mind that01:35
guest1110101I've used Linux off and on for 5 years. Everything is a welcome new learning experience. I'm starting to study a Linus cert01:36
guest1110101alright, I'm restarting01:38
guest1110101Windows, gosh dangit.01:39
guest1110101I'm still not being offered is the boot menu.01:40
guest1110101but the system is there and working01:40
DrStraingeHi01:42
reasehii01:42
DrStraingeso what are we stand for ?01:43
OerHeksDrStrainge, read the topic?01:43
DrStraingei will01:44
reasewhats the topic bro??01:44
reasedear friend, i have a question.. how to change mac address on ubuntu??01:46
sector327rease - The jelly bean is neither made of jelly nor is it a bean. Discuss01:47
squinty!topicc01:47
OerHeksnetworkmanager can do that, setup a new profile and spoof mac01:47
guest1110101select the network icon and edit connections.01:47
squinty!topic01:48
ubottuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic01:48
OerHeksthere might be scripts that do that randomly too01:48
guest1110101I'm open to suggestions to enable the menu. I'd trouble shoot myself  (and have over last week), but I don't want to ruin what I have.01:48
guest1110101I can access the system with EasyUEFI, but would like to enable the dual boot menu to access the 2 different systems01:49
guest1110101tried the command for Windows and ubuntu, neither take even though they update sucessfully.01:50
guest1110101the thing is that Windows doesn't even see it in the drop down in start/rec01:50
guest1110101I wonder if that's a clue.. what's really the issue?01:51
guest1110101why does EasyUEFI see ubuntu but windows administration tools not..01:52
guest1110101there has to be something I can do to enable the dual boot menu01:52
OerHeksnever heard about easyUefi, not using uefi myself too, but our wiki is normally a good start01:53
OerHeks!uefi01:53
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI01:53
guest1110101I guess there is a muscommunication. I'm familiar with hardware and the bios aspects01:54
guest1110101I need to know more technical information about how to enable the dual boot menu. these things are built to work even if their quriky. since I can boot both, it's not even a question of incompatibility01:55
guest1110101the grub update command won't work and neither will it's equivalent on windows01:56
guest1110101they both tell me that the operation/update complete successfully on the command line though..01:57
guest1110101easy mmmm02:05
guest1110101whoops.. darned smartphone02:05
guest1110101EasyUEFI is a software for Windows while it's booted in. it's not a part of the bios02:06
guest1110101I take it nobody here has an answer for me regarding my dual boot problem.. I'll just lurk02:06
Bashing-omguest1110101: Many/most are not comfortable with EFI to this time . right to lurk and await a response from those here who do have the experience .02:09
myndzi`what might cause the apt package `nodejs` to become installed automatically after i've explicitly removed it?02:22
mjh75a dependancy?02:26
myndzi`if that was the case, wouldn't i be warned when removing it?02:26
myndzi`i built 7.0 from source, but something is causing apt to install the package and overwrite it with 4.2.602:26
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Bashing-ommyndzi`: Any of these apply ' apt-cache rdepends nodejs ' ?02:28
myndzi`do you mean, do i have anything installed from that list?02:29
myndzi`(and apt can't tell me?)02:29
btcquantStill unable to get AMD GPU drivers installed.02:30
btcquantHere are the steps to replicate:02:30
btcquant1. Download latest Ubuntu install image 16.04.102:30
btcquant2. Install Ubunutu on clean, erased drive02:30
btcquant3. sudo apt-get update;  sudo apt-get upgrade;02:30
btcquant4. reboot02:30
razor234x7hey i just upgraded my system and now i cant get xterm or ttl to load? any help would be awesome!!!02:30
myndzi`i'm not actually sure what causes node 4 to become installed again, it doesn't appear to be an apt command i run but i'm not 100% certain02:31
btcquantSorry for the "flood", thought this would all go in one message.   I'm 100% stuck in getting AMD drivers installed.  Has anybody else had the same issue?02:31
OerHeksbtcquant, depends what GPu you have, if it is supported then it is enabled by default.02:32
btcquantGPU is AMD Rx 47002:32
btcquantMotherboard is new Asus z17002:32
razor234x7magck1202:37
OerHeksbtcquant, 470 seems supported, maybe you do need the 4.8 kernel that comes with 16.10 ..02:37
btcquantOerHeks Interesting, hadn't tried that.   Current AMD driver install actually generates a new initrd image, and sets it as main boot image in grub.  That's what fails.   I'll try 16.10 to see if it makes a difference.  Thanks!02:38
razor234x7actually just solved the problem i had02:39
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Shawn|i7-Q720Mhowdy, anyone know why running scripts is returning permission denied?02:51
v7Where I can find lib64/libMonoPosixHelper.so ?02:57
maconErnie mauff02:59
maconErnie mauff03:01
kk4ewtv7 mono-core03:01
v7kk4ewt: sorry ?03:03
v7I have only 32 bit I guess ... I need one for 6403:05
Shawn|i7-Q720MI got it working03:06
Shawn|i7-Q720Mchmodded it03:06
fn2i'll brb :)03:06
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winterbearTrying to get an ubuntu install that doesn't explode. I've tried on 3 separate computers now, with 16.04, 16.10 and the daily. All of them fail in various ways. Right now, it's "mount: can't find /root in /etc/fstab ... mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: no such file or directory ... run-init: current directory on the same filesystem as the root: error 0". I installed with standard partitioning + lvm + luks with no custom options (try03:11
winterbearor enter an infinite loop)03:11
winterbearAlso this is with a legacy bios install. It looks like the ubuntu livecd doesn't support uefi boot, is that correct?03:12
JoePhiWell, offhand, I'd say the livecd should be bootable on UEFI because https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI mentions a boot screen explaining that "4. the "UEFI: USB" line allows to boot the Ubuntu liveUSB in UEFI mode. "03:16
JoePhiI've often wondered about that myself, but I have yet to have a working UEFI computer.03:16
winterbearMy motherboard does not recognize a UEFI boot partition for the install, but then again it only recognizes EFI boot code which is located in EFI/Windows/boot or the like03:17
winterbearWhere do I start debugging the ubuntu install? I think it doesn't even get through the initramfs handoff03:19
winterbearAnd the message seem to imply that lvm and dm-crypt are unused03:19
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winterbearAfter 2 reboots, it started booting correctly.03:24
hanasakiin kde, how do you change the width of borders on windows to make them wider for resizing?03:43
BenderRodriguezhow do I forcefully remove and purge a package?03:52
Bashing-omBenderRodriguez: 'sudo apt purge <package> ' .03:53
mystictothow to add cc recipient in the reply03:54
makoya_;-)03:58
mystictothow to add cc recipient in a reply in mutt04:00
mystictot??04:00
BenderRodriguezBashing-om: I get this dpkg: error processing package mysql-server-5.7 (--configure):04:03
BenderRodriguezBasically something went wrong with the mysql-server package04:04
BenderRodriguezand now I can't remove it04:04
BenderRodriguezI tried apt remove --purge mysql-server04:04
BenderRodriguezand apt purge mysql-server04:04
BenderRodriguezeven apt autoremove mysql-server04:04
BenderRodrigueznothing =/04:04
BenderRodriguezit keeps trying to reconfigure/reinstall mysql-server ( I guess in an attempt to repair it?) and fails04:05
BenderRodriguezand the operation halts04:05
fahmi#ubuntu04:08
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fahmiping04:10
fahmihello04:10
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BenderRodriguezfahmi: PONG04:15
Bashing-omBenderRodriguez: I am not a good one to advise about mysql-server - do not use it .. but how about ' dpkg -l mysql-server-core ' or maybe more proper as ' dpkg -l mysql-server-core-5.7 ' . Need to identify the correct name of the package .04:17
ledeniBenderRodriguez, try apt clear && apt autoremove  mysql-server04:17
Bashing-om!info mysql-server-core-5.7 xenial04:18
ubottumysql-server-core-5.7 (source: mysql-5.7): MySQL database server binaries. In component main, is optional. Version 5.7.16-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 (xenial), package size 7381 kB, installed size 44057 kB04:18
Bashing-om!info mysql-server-5.7 xenial04:18
ubottumysql-server-5.7 (source: mysql-5.7): MySQL database server binaries and system database setup. In component main, is optional. Version 5.7.16-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 (xenial), package size 2621 kB, installed size 45964 kB04:18
Bashing-om!info mysql-client-5.7 xenial04:20
ubottumysql-client-5.7 (source: mysql-5.7): MySQL database client binaries. In component main, is optional. Version 5.7.16-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 (xenial), package size 1755 kB, installed size 32467 kB04:20
yolanda_hi ya04:25
pconstantin?04:32
ITLArYcLIMinaLall right so we still need to know which poor defenseless third world country trump is going to bomb to prove he is president of the barbarian states04:38
yolanda_well, trump is a cave-man..that's why.04:39
yolanda_he has confederate money in his matress04:39
yolanda_lol04:39
yolanda_even I'd put on a pair of skates again of he wins...04:39
yolanda_welcome _antl04:40
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daxno politics in #ubuntu, thanks04:41
rifter!ot yolanda_04:43
yolanda_hi rifter :)04:43
rifterI guess you need ops for the bot to listen04:43
rifterhi yolanda_04:43
rifter :)04:43
rifterwe have t o focus on ubuntu issues here. There are plenty of politics channels and private windows as well04:44
yolanda_10-4 Sir..hrmm..04:44
yolanda_noted.04:44
yolanda_and thank you in advance..peace!04:44
yolanda_and when I go to South Africa..I'll buy a beer for the ubuntu guy04:44
yolanda_8r04:45
HelpMePlsHi05:10
HelpMePlsWould anyone be able to help me with using sed?05:11
c06hi all05:14
c06my https is getting timedout but my http connection working fine05:15
c06i connected my via proxy how to establish https connection05:15
SebthreeBQM10HD!ot05:16
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SebthreeBQM10HDcan't join05:16
SebthreeBQM10HDirc client issue05:16
SebthreeBQM10HDor something05:16
Bashing-om!register | SebthreeBQM10HD05:17
ubottuSebthreeBQM10HD: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode05:17
SebthreeBQM10HDoh05:17
SebthreeBQM10HDoh of course that would explain it05:17
SebthreeBQM10HDnot logged into this name05:17
SebthreeBQM10HDBashing-om, ah well I just wanted to see if anyone was talking trump in there :D  got other channels to05:20
SebthreeBQM10HDbut that's  a bit silly to have it is a logged in only channel05:21
lotuspsychjejust for feedback: i fixxed a broadcom unclaimed wifi card issue on a HP w10 notebook by disabling secureboot to make it recognized on ubuntu05:49
Gat0rls05:51
lotuspsychjecan anyone confirm that clementine can sync iphone06:43
pokergodarchive.canonical.com is down, anyone here able to reset it? :)06:44
ilkenHILLARY IS GOING AND MEXICO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THE WALL06:49
lotuspsychjenot here ilken06:49
ilkenHILLARY IS GOING AND MEXICO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THE WALL06:50
lotuspsychjepokergod: perhaps the #ubuntu-mirrors know more of it?06:50
lotuspsychje!ot | ilken06:50
ubottuilken: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:50
pokergodis there a way to increase/adjust my /boot partition?06:50
ilkenHILLARY IS GOING AND MEXICO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THE WALL06:51
B00B1E5Is there a way to start an SSH server without admin privileges?06:53
Ben64B00B1E5: no06:53
B00B1E5Damn. Thanks06:54
hateballGoogling suggests it is tho06:54
B00B1E5I locked myGoogle didnt really give me anything06:54
hateballB00B1E5: http://serverfault.com/questions/344295/is-it-possible-to-run-sshd-as-a-normal-user06:54
B00B1E5Gnoere the first bit06:54
hateballYou need to use a port over 1024 I assume06:55
B00B1E5......I cant type06:55
B00B1E5That sounds good, thanks06:55
Ben64oh, i wasn't thinking of that06:55
maddawg2god i'm gonna be sick07:05
maddawg2:-(07:05
maddawg2oops wrong channel07:05
b3h3m0thHow do I setup SSHFS on OSX Sierra 10.12 so that I can open the files on the remote Ubuntu server on my mac using sublime ?07:08
b3h3m0thsorry, wrong channel07:08
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Bray90820OerHeks: you around?07:15
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for{}hi, how can i open "system settings" from command line? i run ubuntu 16.1007:36
EriC^^unity-control-center07:36
for{}ok, thanks a lot07:37
EriC^^no problem07:37
user190357on ubuntu 16.04, i inserted a DVB-T stick, module is loaded but no /dev/dvb?07:42
hateballuser190357: any mention in dmesg where it may have gone?07:43
user190357ah. firmware not found07:44
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hateballuser190357: iirc there is a package with extra firmware, but I dont recall the name...07:51
user190357downloaded from linuxtv.org and put in /lib/firmware, now it works. thanks :)07:53
hateballuser190357: :)07:54
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user13589671another problem. my video codec doesnt handle movement well https://img42.com/Vuy7m08:19
user13589671also happens on google chrome flash video. havent tried youtube08:20
Ben64that looks like interlacing08:20
user13589671can i disable that?08:22
Ben64it's from the source08:22
Ben64would help if you explained what you're doing though08:22
user13589671streaming through dvb-t08:23
user13589671and nicovideo.jp08:24
user13589671well, maybe i should try more videos and see if it happens everywhere08:25
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trembyI have a radeon graphics card and use the open source radeon driver. I had no problem at all with it with 12.04. Yesterday I updated to 16.04 and I now get total system freezes frequently. I've tried installing the oibaf drivers; that didn't help. I'm trying now to try a mainline kernel but am having trouble installing it.08:49
king0099hey08:49
trembyI got the image and headers packages from kernel.ubuntu.com. But when I try to install them I get linux-headers-4.8.5-040805-generic depends on linux-headers-4.8.5-040805; however: Package linux-headers-4.8.5-040805 is not installed.08:50
trembyOh, I think I need the _all file too...08:54
EriC^^tremby: yeah08:54
trembyYeah that installed08:55
trembyOK, now (after a graphics crash) I say reboot and it kicks me off SSH but it doesn't actually reboot, so I have to hit the reset button, which makes me cringe...08:56
trembyAnd after it starts I'm going to cry if I still get the crash. That and Trump is just too much.08:56
roryI got a new laptop, what else do I need to do to get my gpg key working, apart from copying ~/.gnupg directory to the new laptop?09:04
roryI tried only copying that directory but I can't decrypt any of the stuff I can on my old laptop. I get the error no valid openPGP data found09:04
roryalso things like gpg --list-keys give no output. I checked file ownership is OK.09:04
trembySo with the latest mainline kernel my graphics hang still sort of happens, but the system recovers itself. So a big improvement on totally locking up the graphics stack, but still worse than back with ubuntu 12.04 :(09:07
DevAntoinehi09:08
tremby%s/12.04/14.04/g09:09
DevAntoineI don't know if it's specific to xubuntu, but sometimes when I do something in Chrome (type some text, click some link), my whole system freeze, I have to do a hard reboot. I'm using Xubuntu 15.10.09:09
ducasseDevAntoine: 15.10 is eol09:10
DevAntoineducasse: yeah, I know that09:11
DevAntoineand I'm not willing to upgrade for now09:11
ducasseDevAntoine: then you have a problem. you won't get security patches or bugfixes, and there is no support for eol releases.09:13
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DevAntoineducasse: atm I don't want to switch to php7 nor bother with some vms or dockers09:14
ducasseDevAntoine: that's your choice.09:15
DevAntoineyou know, even when 15.10 was the stable release I had this issue09:15
DevAntoineanyway, I should have bet that someone would tell me that09:16
rudy_72hi09:17
ducasseDevAntoine: you could have filed a bug back then, but now it's too late. you reaaly should consider upgrading or going back to 14.04 if that is an option.09:18
Guest65988i am getting problem with my linux mint 64 bit OS. when i open my terminal or driver window it opens but showing nothing.09:19
Guest65988any help09:20
DevAntoineducasse: yeah, I know, but I'm kinda scared about how long it will take to have PHP5.6 back. It's my work machine, I can't waste a day upgrading it09:21
DevAntoinethis is my exact issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/651574/chrome-is-freezing-ubuntu-when-opening-a-tab-or-restarting09:21
DevAntoineseems I have to disable the gpu acceleration09:21
Guest65988somebody is there!!09:22
hateball!mint | Guest6598809:23
ubottuGuest65988: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org09:23
Guest65988ty sir.09:23
PhothrismWhat's the correct way to run commands/scripts on startup? Googling reveals like 5 different ways, is there a prefered one?09:33
EriC^^Phothrism: which ubuntu version are you using?09:34
Phothrism16.0409:35
EriC^^!systemd | Phothrism09:35
ubottuPhothrism: systemd is the default init system for Ubuntu 15.04 onwards. For information on transitioning from upstart to systemd, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers For a guide to basic service management with systemd, see https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-systemctl-to-manage-systemd-services-and-units09:35
PhothrismI see, thank you09:36
EriC^^Phothrism: no problem09:37
CtrlChow can I exit a ssh connection opened with -N option?09:38
rahul-kumimsg nickserv identify wolfgang09:39
ikevinCtrlC, try ctrl+d09:39
ubuntu631Hello09:39
CtrlCikevin, the ssh is in the background. I can't do that.09:39
hateballrahul-kumi: perhaps a good idea to change your nickserv passowrd09:40
ubuntu631Can someone help me out?09:40
hateball!ask | ubuntu63109:40
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rahul-kumi:$, i am on it09:40
EriC^^CtrlC: try "jobs" then kill %<job number>09:40
CtrlChere's the full options: -D 6222 -f -C -N09:40
CtrlClet me try.09:40
hheegot as issue, when i copy paste in terminal, for example, i conected to remote machine, (fedora linux) copy n paste, and got 0~/usr/bin/postgresql-setup --initdb1~   <--- what is it in begin-end symbols? i exactly copied as i need. both console (local and remote) utf-809:41
CtrlCEriC^^, jobs gives me: [1]+  Stopped  python3 and that's it.09:41
ubuntu631Windows 10 updates getting rid of grub, have to change the boot order in bios every time I have an update...09:41
hheein this case i copied /usr/bin/postgresql-setup --initdb1  only09:41
EriC^^CtrlC: does "jobs" list it ? or ps ?09:42
ubuntu631!ask | hateball09:42
ubottuhateball: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience09:42
EriC^^ubuntu631: what do you expect you can do about that?09:43
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CtrlCEriC^^, jobs no. It just gives me the output I pasted. There are a bunch of sshs in ps. I'm not sure which is that though. I even tried pkill ssh but the port is still taken.09:44
ikevinubuntu631, according to some forum, this is a working solution: http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-windows-10-with-uefi09:44
ubuntu631!ikevin says if using latest ubuntu that guide is irrelevant09:46
ubottuubuntu631: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)09:46
ubuntu631!who | ikevin09:46
ubottuikevin: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)09:46
ubuntu631how09:46
ledeniubuntu631, use  ikevin,09:48
ubuntu631ledeni ok09:48
ubuntu631use it how exactly09:48
ikevinubuntu631, if you read correctly, you can see a solution from windows 10 : bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi09:49
ikevinjust need to check if the path is correct09:49
ikevini can't try it because i don't use w1009:50
EriC^^that's an ubuntu path, and it is correct09:51
EriC^^for ubuntu 16.0409:51
EriC^^some guy in the comments did say it rendered his pc unbootable though09:51
ubuntu631ikevin, this post doesnt mention anything about issues after win 10 updates09:52
caineis there a good video game console modding network someone could point me to?09:52
ikevinEriC^^, every bootmanager modification can render the pc unbootable09:53
ubuntu631ikevin, my dual boot works perfectly, until there is a windows 10 update09:53
ikevinw10 update has maybe just include a bootmanager update09:53
EriC^^ubuntu631: i guess windows is putting itself first in the efi boot manager list09:53
ubuntu631ikevin, well that is incredibly annoying09:54
ubuntu631so there is no stopping it09:54
EriC^^that mentioned workaround could work in theory cause it changes what windows bootmanager boots09:54
ikevinEriC^^, that sure, they always do that09:54
EriC^^but some guy did say it made his pc unbootable so who knows09:54
ubuntu631the os are on seperate hdd too09:55
EriC^^if you have a windows cd you can always reset the bcd stuff if it fails09:55
ubuntu631when there is an update it changes the boot order in my bios...09:55
ubuntu631i dont even have to touch grub to fix it09:55
ubuntu631just change boot order again09:55
EriC^^yeah, and if windows is set to boot the ubuntu efi file (grubx64.efi) then that won't matter anymore09:55
EriC^^even if it's first in the boot order, it would boot ubuntu, but if you ever remove ubuntu you'd need to reset the windows bcd to boot windows again09:56
ikevin<EriC^^> if you have a windows cd you can always reset the bcd stuff if it fails <== or can change the bios setting to boot on grub and booting windows and restoring windows bootloader09:57
EriC^^ikevin: that makes sense09:58
ubuntu631ikevin, i suppose so09:59
ubuntu631ikevin, most posts i find about doing that claim the workaround doesnt work anymore and every time win 10 receives an update it over writes the boot files09:59
ikevinubuntu631, i think it just override files depending of his configuration10:00
ikevinif you change his configuration, it would stay10:00
ikevinit's the same case if you have multiple windows installation10:01
ikevinand it's same for grub, if you forgot to add windows entry at any update, windows will no more be prompted in grub menu10:02
ledeniubuntu631,1 download https://sourceforge.net/projects/supergrub2/files/2.02s5/super_grub2_disk_x86_64_efi_2.02s5.iso/download 2 put on usb stick 3 make boot in efi from usb stick. 4 find ubuntu and boot from menu supergrub 5 once you boot ubuntu run grub-update in terminal10:06
rorywhy is my terminal putting ^M instead of newline when I press Enter?10:08
Onepamopaguys, I accidently deleted all files in a folder, tried installing trash-cli and running trash-undelete, however, it goes "Segmentation fault"10:09
Onepamopacan someone explain why ?10:09
Onepamopatrash-list also segfaults10:10
ikevinOnepamopa, use testdisk10:10
EriC^^Onepamopa: try ls ~/.local/share/Trash/files10:11
EriC^^see if your files are still there10:11
OnepamopaEriC^^, no they aren't10:12
OnepamopaI used rm -f * in that folder10:12
EriC^^Onepamopa: use testdisk as suggested by ikevin10:12
PhothrismHi, so I made a systemd service that starts on startup, but it fails with the error "mount error(101): Network is unreachable"10:12
OnepamopaEriC^^, does it work on an encrypted disk ?10:12
EriC^^Onepamopa: what filesystem were they on?10:12
PhothrismHowever running the command normally with sudo works everytime10:12
ikevinPhothrism, add a depend to network on your script10:13
OnepamopaEriC^^, the default, I haven't changed anything during setup, just llvm disk encryption10:13
EriC^^Onepamopa: yeah, you are going to need to use photorec and extundelete10:13
PhothrismIt has the line "After=network.target" is this not the correct way? ikevin10:14
EriC^^Onepamopa: photorec searches for files and can recover them, but it won't preserve the names or dir structures10:14
EriC^^extundelete might be able to recover with dir structure, and check out magicrescue never tried it but it came up in the search apt-cache search recovery10:15
ikevintestdisk seems to work with encrypted disk10:15
ikevinPhothrism, can you pastbin your script?10:15
EriC^^this package might be useful too forensics-all10:15
EriC^^ikevin: yeah it does, ext4 is pretty hard to recover with testdisk unfortunately10:15
Onepamopaikevin, what partition do I select? the /devmapper one or /sdaX ?10:15
ikevindevmapper10:16
PhothrismActually I found a stackexchange saying network-online.target will work better, I'm gonna try that10:16
Onepamopaikevin, there are two: /dev/mapper/sda5 319G; /dev/mapper/ubuntu-vg-root 315G and the swap10:17
ikevinOnepamopa, it depend of your partitions10:18
Onepamopaonly 1 partition: / and swap10:18
Onepamopathe "default" setup10:18
yoli23ikevin pulpo10:18
Onepamopaso do I select /dev/mapper/sdaX or /dev/mapper/ubuntu-vg-root10:18
ikevini think ubuntu-vg-root, while in testdisk you will see if it's the good one10:19
Onepamopaikevin, there are also /dev/dm-0/1/2 with same sizes as /dev/mapper10:19
Onepamopaikevin, well, the files were empty10:31
allamooxHello can I activate  a theme in my ubuntu without a third party softwarE_10:34
allamoox?10:34
ikevinOnepamopa, i see on google there are a lot of howto about testdisk and encrypted disk on gc-security10:34
Onepamopaikevin, nevermind .. :) I'll just recreate the contents from a backup and do all changes again10:36
aciculaallamoox: yeah you dont need additional software to change a theme, unless you mean you want to use different programs for displaying info?10:38
jophishhi all10:43
jophishis it possible to unmount the live usb and still install ubuntu. This would involve moving the contents of the usb to some ramdisk10:44
aciculajophish: you'd have to do that at boot10:45
aciculaacicula: its a boot option it seems10:46
aciculajophish: even :P10:46
aciculahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM10:46
jophishacicula: I've never seen anyone mention themselves on IRC before :)10:48
mike_papaHello. I have 2 exactly same laptops. One with fresh, and clean install of Ubuntu 16.10, second with same fresh xUbuntu 16.04. When I run upower, I can see that Ubuntu 16.10 has discharge rate of 16-18W when idle, and xUbuntu is discharging at 21-23W. Shouldn't xUbuntu be less power consuming? Was there any significant change in power management between 16.04 and 16.10?10:48
jophishI'll take a loo, thanks!10:48
Sven_vBcan systemd start my webserver on demand (connection arrives), and forward all TCP connections on its port to the same instance of my webserver, as separate TCP connections, or even unix domain socket connections?10:49
aciculamike_papa: i doubt there is a big difference between power use for xUbuntu vs ubuntu. could also just be measurement differences, do you see a big difference in battery life?10:49
Sven_vBxinetd seems to only know CGI mode10:49
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aciculaSven_vB: you mean xinetd?10:50
ph88_running ubuntu in vbox .. this happened when doing sudo apt update   https://i.imgur.com/pBNzCFO.png10:50
aciculaSven_vB: what do you mean by CGI mode?10:50
ph88_miraciously my mouse still works10:50
Sven_vBacicula, CGI mode = start a new instance of program for each connection that arrives10:51
hheecan't install mysql-workbench on ubuntu 16.10 - Dependency is not satisfiable: libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.13-4)10:51
hheewhta can i do with that?10:51
ph88_hhee, apt-cache search libpng10:52
hheeph88_, already did it10:52
ph88_what did you get ?10:52
aciculamike_papa: oh missed that you have two different versions, kernel version might have a big impact on how often the cpu is used perhaps?10:52
hheeph88_, wait i pastebin10:53
hheeph88_, http://pastebin.com/ALMbcHzK10:53
hheeseems like version conflict10:53
aciculais 16.10 out?10:53
EriC^^yes10:54
aciculahhee: whats the output from apt-cache policy libpng ?10:54
ph88_hhee, i think 12-0 is part of the package name libpng12-0 which is not in the repo10:54
hheeacicula, yep. 16.10 release. output is N: Unable to locate package libpng10:55
hheeph88_, maybe. how can i handle this?10:55
hheeneed mysql-workbench for work10:55
mike_papaacicula: I just tried live xUbuntu on first one to make sure, and it's 21-23W discharge as well, so you may be right. I'll check kernel version on Ubuntu.10:55
aciculahhee: what repo are you installing mysql-workvebcg frin?10:55
ph88_hhee, for work i would use 16.04 LTS release10:56
hheeacicula, i downloaded .deb package from official site, from there https://www.mysql.com/products/workbench/10:56
ph88_hhee, maybe you can use package from 16.04 on 16.10  http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libpng12-010:56
hheeph88_, you are right, but maybe i can fix this. all another things work fine10:57
mike_papait's 4.8.0-26 on Ubuntu vs 4.4.0-45 on xUbuntu. That may be the reason.10:57
hheeph88_, thx i'll chech it10:57
hheecheck10:57
aciculahhee: that is packaged for ubuntu 16.0410:57
hheeacicula, yeah... just now mention it..10:58
ph88_hhee, if you can't use the 16.04 repo, you can compile from source here ftp://ftp.simplesystems.org/pub/libpng/png/src/libpng12/10:58
ph88_ah workbench is for 16.04 and you try to install on 16.10 ?10:59
aciculaidk if you can have libpng12 and libpng16 coexist11:00
aciculaif these are binary compatible you could try to have the dependency ignored?11:00
hheeph88_, i installed package from your link http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libpng12-0 and after that install mysql-workbench and all work fine now, thx :)11:02
hheeph88_, yep. workench for 16.04, but now i installed it to 16.1011:03
mike_papaIt wasn't kernel. I have forgot about nvidia drivers on xubuntu. After installing nvidia-340 it went down to same power consumption as ubuntu 16.1011:04
hheeall work fine. tnx a lot guys for your awesome support11:04
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mike_papaSo nVidia drivers gives you ca. 20% less power consumption on idle comparing to nouveau. Proved scientifically! ;)11:05
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allamooxacicula:  How can I change themes then? I created the folder and called it .themes11:12
djvdorpCan we please ban politics from freenode !ops ?11:12
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ikevinhas i can see, T|R|U|M|P just make shit :(11:18
ikevinty popey11:18
aciculaallamoox: i am not sure, you can set themes for gnome using the graphical interface, why are you creating directories?11:19
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allamooxacicula: I googled my question http://askubuntu.com/questions/648199/how-to-install-themes-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts11:25
allamooxSo this is my I created the folder11:25
aciculaah ok. When you select themes can you select the folder where you downloaded the themes to?11:27
allamooxyes11:28
allamooxacicula: yes11:29
allamooxBut now I installed the unity-tweak-tool11:29
roryI can't hit Enter on terminal programs that read input, like ssh. Instead it just says ^M like this http://i.imgur.com/T6lmrdb.png11:29
allamooxbut still my theme can't be seen11:29
aciculaallamoox: you are looking at the Theme tab?11:31
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aciculaallamoox: have you unpacked the theme file?11:32
aciculadouble click on the theme file so its opened and then drag that to the .themes folder11:32
allamooxacicula:   I put it in the theme folder11:33
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allamooxapt-get update to be able to download the unity-tweak-tool.11:34
allamooxCommand explanation, sudo bash - Is  to open a super user session - && apt-get update - to update the Advanced Packaging Tool -  && cd /home/allamoox -  Changing directory to my main folder - && mkkdir ./.themes -  to create the folder .themes - .11:34
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debkadrory: may be this can help you http://askubuntu.com/questions/441744/pressing-enter-produces-m-instead-of-a-newline11:34
allamooxacicula: the file is extracted and I put it inside the folder call it theme11:36
allamoox.11:36
aciculahmm that is what google is telling me that should work :/11:36
allamooxacicula:  Does it work for you.11:38
BluesKajHiyas all11:39
aciculaallamoox: imnot using the ubuntu desktop11:41
donttrustemguys I am trying to remove resolvconf from 16.04  Package 'resolvconf' is not installed, so not removed  Who can up with the stupid idea of overwriting the resolv.conf in the first place … bloody crazy11:46
SummerRainIm having problems adding #PATH to bash profile file11:46
hateballdonttrustem: What are you actually trying to achieve?11:47
donttrustemsplit DNS11:47
SummerRainI add $PATH to the .bash_profile but it says it doesnt find the file/path11:47
aeon-ltdSummerRain: pastebin your bash11:47
donttrustemhateball: dnsmasq11:47
PrutheusHello! I am on a dell xps 13. when i connect a monitor via docking d3100 (displaylink) or pluggable thunderbolt3_to_hdmi, i get a 1sec-freeze all 10 seconds. how can I fix this issue?11:48
hateballdonttrustem: Something not working by adding your nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces ?11:48
donttrustemI have tried adding a tail file but it’s not working so I want to revert to the old way of doing things …  Automatic stuff sucks11:48
SummerRainaeon-ltd it basically have some login info and this in the end http://pastebin.com/R16zsvF811:48
umarzukievening folks11:49
SummerRainmorning here11:49
umarzukianyone using citadel groupware?11:50
SummerRainwhy adding PATH="$PATH:~/cuda/bin/" to the end of the bash file wont work ?11:50
donttrustemhateball:is all dhcp as there is a 1 to 1 nat11:50
aeon-ltdSummerRain: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/138504/setting-path-vs-exporting-path-in-bash-profile11:50
donttrustemhateball: can resolvconf be removed?11:51
hateballdonttrustem: afaik you can still use dns-nameservers and dns-search even if the ip is dhcp11:51
donttrustemOK .. let me add them and see what happens11:51
crystal211:51
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SummerRainaeon-ltd ?11:51
lolman8776I need help11:52
Crystal2I'm having a problem with my screen orientation11:52
aeon-ltdSummerRain: did you read it?11:52
SummerRainyes11:52
aeon-ltddid you try the export?11:52
Crystal2It seems to have 'flipped' the orientation of my accellerometer11:52
SummerRainyou mean add export keyword before the path? i will try that now11:52
lolman8776Ubuntu sdk says this when I try to make a new kit: "error: Missing parent 'lxdbr0' for nic 'eth0' Try `lxc info --show-log desktop` for more info  ---Task exited with errors, please check the output---"11:52
aeon-ltdSummerRain: yeah11:52
donttrustemhateball: why have they added this in the first place … seems stupid to me11:53
SummerRainaeon-ltd failed http://pastebin.com/sh3Sq12t11:53
hateballdonttrustem: so you can configure everything using systemd and network-manager I would guess11:54
hateballdonttrustem: progress happens you know11:54
dalputI want to share a folder between local users, at this moment user1 has access to it. What do I do ? Make a usergroup, add both users there, chown and chmod the folder for the new group ? Will it affect any other shares ? Can a user be in different groups ?11:55
donttrustemLOL … that is not progress for a headless server.   Deskstop stuff11:55
aeon-ltdSummerRain: is include a folder? should it have / after it?11:57
SummerRaineven with / after it, still fails11:57
EriC^^dalput: yeah a user can be in different groups and it may or may not affect other users shares11:58
dalputEriC^^: thanks, it's just the pictures folder I want to share between 2 users, guess nothing will happen.11:59
EriC^^dalput: yeah11:59
allamooxAny idea GUYS why the unity-tweak-tool doesn't show my downloaded theme?11:59
allamooxI explained above the the steps I did :(11:59
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aeon-ltdSummerRain: tried no " ? , yeah i'm just guessing now12:00
poisonhello12:01
SummerRainaeon-ltd Error: no such file "/home/andrelopes/cuda/include/:"12:01
SummerRainwhy does it add the ":"12:01
SummerRainAlthough im doing export CPATH=~/cuda/include/:$CPATH12:02
aciculaallamoox: does the theme folder of the theme you are trying to install contain gtk-2.0/gtk-3.0 folders?12:02
allamooxacicula: yes12:03
allamooxacicula: https://snag.gy/t57Tbz.jpg12:04
aciculathat site doesnt work for me12:06
titodrewHi guys, I need someone who has experience with vagrant/ubuntu to help with this if possible http://dpaste.com/2KK9QT512:07
allamooxhttps://postimg.org/image/ye370tce3/12:07
allamooxacicula:  u can try this one12:07
aciculathat works12:07
allamooxI will try to copy the theme to /usr/share/themes12:07
aciculaallamoox: that structure looks in order12:07
aeon-ltdSummerRain: what does the cuda directory look like? so far i'm like 90% the bash syntax is correct12:08
SummerRainaeon-ltd solved like this :12:08
allamooxacicula:  So :)12:08
SummerRainaeon-ltd http://pastebin.com/HEVjVy4K12:08
allamooxI even copied the theme folder to /usr/share/theme12:08
aeon-ltdSummerRain: it works?12:08
aciculaallamoox: still nada :/12:08
SummerRainaeon-ltd seem it does12:08
acicula?12:08
allamooxbut still I can't activate the themes12:09
aeon-ltdSummerRain: congrats, sorry if i delayed the solution12:09
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SummerRainaeon-ltd i just wanted to understand why it didnt work before but this new way, it does12:09
aciculaallamoox: oh wait12:09
aciculamove the Aurora folder up one12:10
aciculaand remove the aurora-3.16 folder12:10
titodrewanyone got experience with vagrant?12:10
SummerRainIs it possible to use echo to print a coloured text?12:10
titodrewPlease I could do with some help...12:10
aciculaSummerRain: yeah you can use colors on the console12:11
aciculatitodrew: ask your question, if anyone knows they will answer. (i've never used vagrant)12:11
allamooxacicula:  https://postimg.org/image/3ubl6wu0d/12:12
allamooxlet me reboot12:12
aciculaallamoox: dont need to reboot12:12
allamooxok12:12
aciculashould work directly, or just restart x12:12
aciculaie logout log back in more or less12:13
evgaHi, since a couple days my ubuntu 16.04 machine has a strange problem.. the CD-ROM is ejected randomly ... what could it be ?12:13
aciculaevga: does this happen when there is a cd in the drive?12:13
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evgaacicula: no, the drive is empty12:13
allamooxacicula:  https://postimg.org/image/if9wkuxtp/12:13
allamooxStill it doesn't show up12:13
aciculawell poop, i really thought that could be it12:14
titodrew˜I am currently having a problem trying to work with scrapy-cluster for testing/learning purposes. When I run vagrant up I get this error http://dpaste.com/2KK9QT512:15
aeon-ltdallamoox: have you tried putting it in the theme folder in your home directory, the hidden dotfolder one12:15
TJ-SummerRain: 'echo' uses the '-e' switch to enable escape control codes (for colors). E.g. for green text try: echo -e "\033[01;32m hello \033[00m"12:15
SummerRainTJ- it worked!12:15
SummerRainthank you guys :)12:15
allamooxaeon-ltd:  Yes this is what Im trying to do...12:15
titodrewI have the prequisites installed from their github page https://github.com/istresearch/scrapy-cluster12:15
aeon-ltdallamoox: show hidden files and folders in your home12:16
aciculaallamoox: the files are owned by your user and writeable?12:16
SummerRainaeon-ltd thanks for the helP!12:16
titodrewbut running "vagrant up" gives the error pasted in the dpaste link above.12:16
SummerRaincya guys12:16
allamooxaeon-ltd:  yes ls -la and I added . before the folder so its hidden one12:17
allamooxbut it doesnt matter12:17
allamooxacicula:  yes,12:17
allamooxlet me chmod for it12:17
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aciculatitodrew: it looks like it is trying to pull down a premade image that is not in that particular location?12:18
aeon-ltd.themes/ didn't work?12:18
TJ-titodrew: have you installed that 'box' (see https://vagrantcloud.com/ubuntu/boxes/trusty64 )12:18
allamooxaeon-ltd:  I dont understand what do you mean12:18
aeon-ltdallamoox: placing the theme in the directory .themes/12:19
allamooxaeon-ltd:  please scroll up12:19
allamooxYes I did12:19
allamooxI extracted the theme12:19
aeon-ltdallamoox: so the path will look like ./themes/nameoftheme/variousthemefiles12:19
allamooxI put it in /home/user/.themes12:19
allamooxaeon-ltd:  yes Its12:19
titodrewacicula: my thoughts as well..12:19
titodrewTJ-: Do I need to install trusty64 in the VirtualBox?12:20
aeon-ltdallamoox: what application are you using to change the theme? close it and re launch it12:20
TJ-titodrew: vagrant will need it; that's what it is telling you12:20
Crystal2I have a problem with my screen orientation12:20
allamooxunity-tweaky-tool12:20
Crystal2Everything is upside down12:20
allamooxI rebooted the whole box aeon-ltd12:20
aeon-ltdallamoox: what theme is this?12:21
allamooxaeon-ltd: will it matter?12:21
aeon-ltdidk but i'm out of ideas12:22
allamooxit's whatever theme I download from http://www.ubuntuthemes.org12:22
allamooxwanna come teamviewe and have a look?12:22
aeon-ltdcan i do it via browser only?12:23
titodrewTJ-: thanks for clarifying. Let me get the image and install that then.... I thought it was gonna do that automatically....12:23
TJ-Crystal2: identify the output device name using "xrandr -q" then do "xrandr --output <OUTPUT_NAME> --rotate normal"12:24
Crystal2Yes12:24
Crystal2TJ-, I've got that working12:24
Crystal2But everytime I close the lid of my laptop, or hold it differently, it changes again12:24
allamooxaeon-ltd:  how?12:25
aeon-ltdi've never used teamviewer before12:25
Crystal2I've got a "Flipbook"12:25
TJ-titodrew: I think 'vagrant init ubuntu/trusty64' is supposed to do that12:25
allamooxok  , dont worry man12:25
allamooxany one got a clue please about this theme problem Hilight my name12:25
allamooxThanks in advnace.12:25
TJ-Crystal2: that means it probably has an accelerometer and as you change orientation the software tracks it12:25
aeon-ltdallamoox: have you tried moving the aurora and dark aurora folders up one directory?12:26
Crystal2Yes, it does have one of those12:26
Crystal2BUt its malfunctioning12:26
Crystal2or at least, the driver is broken12:26
Crystal2I have no idea how to fix this :/12:26
TJ-Crystal2: ironic - I've spent the last few hours trying to *enable* the accelerometer in this PC to make it autorotate - fancy swapping PCs? :D12:26
Crystal2haha, perhaps ;)12:26
Crystal2I made the switch from Ubuntu to Ubuntu GNOME this morning12:26
Crystal2and I'm already regretting it, lol12:27
titodrewTJ-: but running that would require I delete the Vagrantfile that comes with scrapy-cluster12:27
TJ-Crystal2: is it because the accelerometer is extremely sensitive and slight movements are being exgerated?12:27
Crystal2no, even at "normal" orientation, the screen is flipped12:27
Crystal2the signal is "Inverted" it seems12:27
boss_i need help with Zenity. I need checklist, but how i add selection highlight with keyboard. Now i can't see where that selector is.12:27
TJ-titodrew: hmmm! in which case maybe re-reading the crapy stuff might give a clue. did they miss/assume this step I wonder?12:27
Crystal2Like, it works, just ... the wrong way12:27
TJ-Crystal2: then do "xrandr --output <OUTPUT-NAME> --rotate inverted"12:28
TJ-Crystal2: but if the software is controlling it that may just change it back again!12:28
Crystal2TJ-, does it help if I say, that at the login screen its messed up too?12:28
aciculaINFO: task mt:17021 blocked for more than 120 seconds keeps popping up in my dmesg, followed by a systrace, the process hasnt crashed, mt is just doinga full tape erase which takes awhile. Is there any way to tweak this log behavior?12:29
Crystal2Setting it to inverted, makes it wrong12:29
aeon-ltdallamoox: did it work?12:29
TJ-Crystal2: does the orientation change if you rotate the PC whilst at the log-in screen?12:29
Crystal2Normal sets it to what I want12:29
boss_zenity --list shows that selector, but i want it to show also in checklist. Is it possible?12:29
Crystal2TJ-, let me check12:29
TJ-Crystal2: maybe the output from the accelerometer is being inverted so up is down and visa-versa12:29
Crystal2TJ-, yes, that sounds reasonable12:30
aciculafor just this process that is, i can disable it entirely using a proc setting12:30
Crystal2Is there a way I can invert that ?12:30
TJ-Crystal2: in which case there *may* be a way to tell the kernel driver, or the iio-sensor-proxy program - to invert its interpretation of events12:30
allamooxaeon-ltd:  no12:30
aeon-ltd...12:31
TJ-Crystal2: You first need to identify the accelerometer's kernel module, which could be slightly complicated12:31
SummerRainaeon-ltd hi are you still there?12:31
aeon-ltdSummerRain: yeah, i wanted to say i didn't do anything to resolve your problem12:31
SummerRainaeon-ltd i need your help again :)12:31
TJ-Crystal2: the quickest way I've found is to temporarily stop the system service, run it manually in debug mode, then re-enable system mode. That should give a report identifying the kernel device being used.12:32
SummerRainaeon-ltd im trying to install AMD LibM Library for Linux®. Built with GCC 4.7.2 to my linux but i dont know how and theres no info on their website12:32
Crystal2TJ-, what system device?12:32
SummerRainseems i have to install those libraries manually aeon-ltd12:32
SummerRainaeon-ltd http://developer.amd.com/tools-and-sdks/archive/compute/libm/12:32
TJ-Crystal2: if you want to try that then: "sudo systemctl stop iio-sensor-proxy.service; sudo G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all /usr/sbin/iio-sensor-proxy" copy the output, then press Ctrl+C to stop it, then "sudo systemctl start iio-sensor-proxy.service"12:33
ingiveHi I am trying to turn off a laptop display but I get 'could not get screen information' in display settings, any alternatives or solutions? Thanks!12:33
ingiveFor any help!12:33
TJ-ingive: are you identifying the display name using "xrandr -q" ?12:34
Crystal2Sure, one second!12:35
aeon-ltdSummerRain: the readme says you can just run the script12:35
Crystal2TJ-, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1c145b4ef8d39e911cff208c4d19fb3012:36
docMikaHi all12:36
ingiveTJ-, I haven't tried that.12:36
docMikaIs there anyone here who knows Btsync and could help me with that?12:36
TJ-Crystal2: I'd guess from that the device is a "SMO8500" so now to find the matching driver12:37
ingiveTJ-, I have identified the display I want to turn off. What's next?12:37
ingiveIt's basically a laptop display, I want to turn it off for the external monitor.12:37
TJ-ingive: "xrandr --output <NAME> --off"12:37
Crystal2Name is the SMO8500 right?12:38
Crystal2or is that the eDP1 ?12:38
Crystal2oh nvm12:39
TJ-Crystal2: is that a Dell PC?12:39
Crystal2So how do I find the driver associated with that ?12:39
Crystal2No, its an Asus TP500L12:39
Crystal2"Flipbook"12:39
TJ-Crystal2: hmm; the only "SMO" drive I can find is "smo-8800" - but you must have one loaded so try "lsmod | grep smo"12:40
SummerRainaeon-ltd i can run the example but i need to refer the library12:40
TJ-Crystal2: mine's an Asus T300CHI - but has a different make of accelerometer (MPU)12:40
Crystal2crystal@watomat:~$ lsmod | grep smo12:40
Crystal2psmouse               126976  012:40
Crystal2I don't think thats it ;)12:41
TJ-Crystal2: err no, so lets use a different approach then!12:41
Crystal2There's these three in the lsmod list12:42
Crystal2asus_nb_wmi            24576  012:42
Crystal2asus_wmi               28672  1 asus_nb_wmi12:42
Crystal2sparse_keymap          16384  1 asus_wmi12:42
TJ-Crystal2: try looking in the sys-fs: "ls /sys/class/" and see if you see a directory node with a name that has "accel" in it12:42
Crystal2None12:43
TJ-Crystal2: as I currently don't have the device working I can't tell you where to find it12:43
Crystal2Hum...12:43
Crystal2Is there a way I can just disable the rotation completely?12:43
TJ-Crystal2: OK, how about you "pastebinit <(dmesg)"12:43
TJ-Crystal2: the easiest way would be to disable the driver, since much of this stuff is being done automatically by the core OS12:44
Crystal2http://paste.ubuntu.com/23450807/12:44
ingiveTJ-, thanks that worked. It seems a bit unstable is there any tools to monitor and see settings etc with nouveau?12:45
ingiveI tried installing propietary graphics driver but it doesn't really function that well (can't log in, dropped back to login screen)12:45
PrutheusHello! I am on a dell xps 13. when i connect a monitor via docking d3100 (displaylink) or pluggable thunderbolt3_to_hdmi, i get a 1sec-freeze all 10 seconds. how can I fix this issue?12:45
TJ-Crystal2: well strange! I see no mention of the accelerometer 'input' device, or of any i2c or iio device wither, but we know that PC has it12:47
TJ-ingive: you mean the output you disabled was glitching? 'xrandr' is the standard command line interface to the video controls12:48
Crystal2TJ-, it does have one, this laptop came pre-installed with windows, and it worked on that12:48
Crystal2TJ-, I had regular Ubuntu 16.04 installed on it, and the accellerometer was not working, but now that I installed Ubuntu GNOME, it suddenly "works"12:49
TJ-Crystal2: well we know that too because Linux is using it - we just can't identify which driver!12:49
TJ-Crystal2: yes, Gnome recently added core support for it12:49
Crystal2TJ-, any way you can disable this in GNOME specifically?12:51
TJ-Crystal2: I think you'll find the sysfs node at "ls -a /sys/devices/pci0000:00/INT3432:00/i2c-5/ "12:51
TJ-Crystal2: I don't know - don't touch Gnome at all12:52
Crystal2crystal@watomat:~$ ls -a /sys/devices/pci0000:00/INT3432:00/i2c-5/12:52
Crystal2.   delete_device  firmware_node  i2c-SMO8500:00  new_device  subsystem12:52
Crystal2..  device         i2c-dev        name            power       uevent12:52
titodrewTJ-: I fixed it. There was a problem with the curl library that was embedded in Vagrant that gave the issue.12:52
TJ-Crystal2: maybe there's an additional option in the Settings applets somewhere? "Screen Display" or possibly "Appearance" ?12:52
titodrewTJ-: this fixed it for me https://github.com/mitchellh/vagrant/issues/796912:53
TJ-titodrew: well done; not the kind of bug you'd expect12:53
titodrewNow its working as intended...12:53
Crystal2I've already searched all over it, done many google searches too12:53
titodrewTJ-: exactly. Thanks for your time. Highly appreciated.12:53
TJ-titodrew: that seems a bit brittle too if it depends on a particular version of something as fundamental as curl12:54
Crystal2Its in there though, that last command you mentioned, had the 8500 in there12:54
docMikaanyone knows how long it takes to connect to a folder via btsync?12:54
TJ-Crystal2: right, so show me "pastebinit <( find /sys/devices/pci0000:00/INT3432:00/i2c-5/ )12:54
Crystal2http://paste.ubuntu.com/23450837/12:54
Crystal2It's got 4 entries with the words accel12:55
titodrewTJ-: yeah, but good thing it falls back to the default curl on the base OS12:55
Crystal2nvm, a lot more ;)12:56
TJ-Crystal2: OK, so it's an IIC (i2c) device which explains why I couldn't find an obvious driver for it12:57
Crystal2Yeah, i2c is that 4-wire serial protocol right? I remember that from my embeded hardware class ;)12:57
MulfHello12:58
TJ-Crystal2: I've found the driver: "modinfo kxcjk-1013"12:59
MulfIs there a way to check what wifi chip I currently have in my computer?12:59
TJ-Crystal2: so at worst you could 'blacklist' that module so it isn't loaded12:59
ingiveTJ-, when I for example press the search thing in the bar the entire screen becomes blue except the bar13:00
TJ-Mulf: "lspci -nn"13:00
SwedeMikeMulf: lspci or lsusb might help.13:00
ingiveTJ-, was thinking like nvidia-settings command but for nouveau?13:00
Crystal2description:    KXCJK1013 accelerometer driver13:00
Crystal2Yes you found it.13:00
TJ-ingive: that sounds like the Nouveau driver doesn't fully support the GPU (yet)13:00
TJ-Crystal2: best option would be to explore/ask Gnome (support) how to disable its use of the accelerometer13:00
TJ-Crystal2: I think there's a Gnome IRC channel here on Freenode which may help there13:02
ingiveTJ-, it's an old laptop13:02
Crystal2TJ-, for now though, what do I have to add to my blacklist file to disable it?13:02
MulfTJ-: Thanks13:03
Crystal2TJ-, I've just added it to the blacklist file, I'm rebooting now13:05
TJ-Crystal2: "echo blacklist kxcjk-1013 | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-kxcjk-1013.conf" should do it for reboots. "sudo modprobe -r kxcjk-1013" now might do it13:05
Crystal2TJ-, that didn't fix it :313:08
SummerRainIs it possible to make linux terminal always execute a command before opening? Like.. "source private/project/virtualenv-15.0.3/myVE/bin/activate" ???13:10
ioria.bashrc13:10
SummerRainbashrc or .bash_profile ?13:11
ioriai use .bashrc ..13:11
docMikaNo one to help me with btsync? :)13:12
TJ-docMika: is that Bluetooth Sync?13:12
docMikatj nope, it's bittorrent sync13:12
SummerRainioria ty it worked on profile :)13:12
TJ-docMika: ahh; not what I was thinking at all13:13
docMikaTJ I'm trying to get the image of raspbian with jasper and that's the only place I found it, but that soft is ... pita.13:13
TJ-docMika: I generally use Transmission client13:13
TJ-docMika: it has a CLI interface as well as a GUI13:14
docMikaI've been on ubuntu for three days.13:14
v7How to install this damn Flash Player in Opera ?!13:16
v7sudo apt install flashplugin-installer doesn't work13:16
ioriav7 i don't use opera but i think it uses pepperflashplugin-nonfree13:18
ingiveTJ, what difference does it make to use an older version of ubuntu and newer one with older hardware?13:18
ingiveThanks for your help btw.13:18
TJ-ingive: well, generally, more recent software will be more capable - for the kernel and video drivers that usually translates as less bugs and more complete functionality. It can sometimes cause regressions though13:20
v7ioria: it throws me an error: mv: cannot stat 'unpackchrome/opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so': No such file or directory13:20
jophishhi all13:20
jophishI'm trying to install ubuntu server, however the iso doesn't have the driver for my network card and I get "no network interfaces detected"13:21
xXEoflaOEXxHi13:21
jophishlspci shows the name of the interface13:21
jophishIs it possible to download a driver and stick it on the usb disk I'm booting from?13:21
ioriav7  16.10 ?13:22
TJ-jophish: double-check if lspci shows a driver for that device: "lspci -nnk"13:22
MrHallHello13:22
jophishTJ-: oh, it's iwlwifi13:22
jophishI wonder why the installer didn't find it13:23
TJ-jophish: using the PCI Vendor:Device ID (the [XXXX:YYYY] at the end of the device's description will help find the correct driver13:23
jophishioria: 16.10 server13:23
hateballthat should already be in the kernel13:23
TJ-jophish: then I'd guess your issue isn't the driver but a missing firmware file. Do "modprobe -F firmware iwlwifi" and cross-match the firmware model IDs that shows with that lspci output13:23
ioriav7   what version of ubuntu ?13:24
v716.0413:24
TJ-jophish: typo! "modinfo -F firmware iwlwifi" !!13:24
jostHi! I installed Cuda 8 from Nvidia, now I'm stuck at 640x480 resolution... I'm on XUbuntu 16.04. Synaptic shows that nouveau drivers are used, but I can not change them to use the Nvidia drivers again. Can I somehow reverse that change? I've already tried to uninstall Cuda, tried to reinstall the kernel, and some more stuff.13:24
ioriav7   try adobe-flashplugin   after enabling Canonical  in Software Sources13:24
MrHallsomeone know a open source proyect to help? i m new programer13:25
MrHallor open source proyects channel13:25
jophishTJ-: there doesn't seem to be a match13:25
jophishoh13:25
jophishthere is13:25
TJ-jophish: can you show the "lspci -nn" results in a pastebin?13:25
v7MrHall: https://github.com/farbrausch/fr_public13:26
jophishTJ-: not easily without network access :)13:26
TJ-jophish: I've been working with a firmware loading bug for the iwlwifi 7265D this morning so we might have similar issues13:26
TJ-jophish: ok, just tell me the [XXXX:YYYY] of the device from the lspci output13:26
jophishTJ-: 8086:08b113:27
jophishIntel 726013:27
TJ-jophish: give me a few minutes to cross check13:27
jophishthanks for the help TJ-13:27
jophishfwiw, this works fine with the ubuntu desktop iso13:27
MrHallv7 i only know java, can i help ? :)13:28
TJ-jophish: what does "modinfo -F firmware iwlwifi | grep 7260" show ?13:28
TJ-jophish: maybe you see "iwlwifi-7260-17.ucode" there ?13:28
jophishTJ-: yes, that's there13:28
TJ-jophish: so you'd need to cross-check if that file is in "ls /lib/firmware/iwl*7260*"13:28
v7MrHall: You have asked for some open project ... so I gave it to it13:29
jophishTJ-: it's not there, however 7260-16 is13:29
TJ-jophish: OK, well, that ought not be an issue since the driver asks for all versions of the firmware that it knows of, so if you do "dmesg | grep iwlwifi" you should a bunch of messages about the files it tried13:30
TJ-jophish: now, if you're hitting the bug I'm working on, its that at early boot-time the firmware file fails to load but later it will load if you "modprobe -r iwlwifi && modprobe iwlwifi"13:32
CreasedHey! Can you help me? https://thepasteb.in/p/LghN0goZPYQTZ13:32
jophishTJ-: enabling device 0000->0002; direct firmware load for 7260-17 failed with -2; loaded firmware 16.242414.0 op_mode iwlmvm; failed to load iwlmvm (error 256) Is dynamic loading enabled?13:32
jophishTJ-: I'll try that13:32
TJ-jophish: OK, if it using iwlmvm then you need to do "modprobe -r iwlmvm && modprobe iwlmvm"13:33
jophishTJ-: modprobe is unable to find iwlmvm13:34
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TJ-jophish: hmm, maybe that's the issue - is it there? "modinfo iwlmvm"13:36
jophishTJ-: not found13:36
CreasedDoes anybody can help me to write a short sed script? I've written my problem on a pastebin so as to don't flood the room... https://thepasteb.in/p/LghN0goZPYQTZ13:36
jophishodd that's not on the disk13:37
TJ-jophish: that's a definite bug if it is missing - needs reporting13:37
TJ-jophish: remind which version and architecture that installer is for?13:37
jophishTJ-: 16.10 server x86_6413:38
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TJ-jophish: pop into #ubuntu-server see if anyone will take notice, but you should file a bug on this13:38
hechongwhats this?13:41
hechongchat platform?13:42
kostkonhechong, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat13:43
aciculahechong :you mean irc?13:43
myselfcacconeHello13:47
treehug88myselfcaccone if you have a question just go ahead and ask :)13:51
IguilHas anyone experienced the "color" tab in printing preferences being blank, in addition to the "color managemeng" checkbox missing when adding a printer in the CUPS interface?14:05
IguilWe have an Ubuntu 16.04 VM with CUPS 2.1.3 here experiencing this, and I'm sort of lost as I actually can't find references to it by googling14:06
treehug88you might try ##cups14:07
ducasseIguil: there will only be a color tab if the driver provides settings for it, aiui14:12
TJ-Iguil: that sounds like a printer GUI problem. any other corruption-type issues been noticed on that PC?14:13
Iguilnot that I know of, the user had to leave now though, so I'm unable to test further right now14:13
Iguilty for replies :)14:14
TJ-Iguil: I'd expect (a sanely programmed) GUI to ommit the tabs if the functionality wasn't available, but it could also be it doesn't do that and the selected CPUs driver isn't exposing colour functions14:14
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frankiee_Hi! I'm trying to install Ubuntu Kylin 16.04.1 LTS (32-bit) via a bootable DVD ISO on a HP Pavillion dv1000 with an Intel Celeron 1.40GHz (480MB RAM).14:19
frankiee_But I'm getting: `Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU`. Anybody know why?14:19
BluesKaj480mb Ram ia bit on the light side , perhaps lubuntu would suit your pc better, frankiee_14:21
frankiee_thanks BluesKaj14:21
Southern_Gentlemyeagh 1G most likely is needed for installes14:21
frankiee_lubuntu looks nice!14:25
frankiee_Take that as a compliment I fucking hate Ubuntu (and Linux in general), due to the pain and sufferings it has given me over the years. Only OpenBSD came to save me.14:26
BluesKaj~langauge |frankiee_14:26
BluesKaj!langauge |frankiee_14:27
ubottufrankiee_: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList14:27
daedelothhttps://ibin.co/31OTqexAFZBp.png14:27
daedelothany clue what could be causing this? It seems to happen every time, after a while14:27
TJ-frankiee_: probably the Celeron is an i386 CPU without PAE support14:28
frankiee_TJ-: lubuntu doesn't require PAE right?14:28
TJ-frankiee_: all recent kernels require PAE, since 12.04 I think14:28
frankiee_TJ-: matter of fact, and silly of me, before the unable to boot message it says "WARNING: PAE disabled"14:28
TJ-frankiee_: aha! there is a kernel parameter that will try to use PAE even the CPU flags don't report it as being available (many older x86 had it but didn't advertise it)14:29
frankiee_cool14:30
frankiee_wait, what's with xubuntu?14:30
TJ-frankiee_: at the boot-manager you can edit the linux comamnd-line and add "forcepae"14:30
frankiee_some seem to recommend that over lubuntu, idk14:30
TJ-frankiee_: Xubuntu is a bit 'lighter' than Lubuntu in some circumstances (mainly due to different Gnome usage)14:31
nat#nick Natkeeran14:32
frankiee_i see is see14:32
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aciculafrankiee_: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_vitals&num=114:33
frankiee_thanks acicula14:34
frankiee_http://lubuntu.net/ it is!!14:35
BluesKaja memory test would be more significant14:36
BluesKajlubuntu looks good memory wise there14:38
aciculathat tracks memory use14:38
aciculahttp://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Lubuntu_vs_Xubuntu there is also that14:38
aciculabut i dont see where the numbers are based on14:38
CreasedDoes anyone can help me to write a short sed script? I've written my problem on a pastebin so as to don't flood the room... https://thepasteb.in/p/LghN0goZPYQTZ14:38
Bishhow do i let a small vserver stop to die when the logs fill up it's little virtual hdd ?14:44
Bishit's using rsyslog and dies after a week bc the hdd is full14:44
Bishtl;dr i need something that limits log size14:46
CreasedBish: Maybe using inotify(7) ? https://linux.die.net/man/7/inotify14:52
CreasedBish: Or inotifywatch(1) https://linux.die.net/man/1/inotifywatch14:53
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aciculaBish logrotate can set limits, compress and remove logs14:54
aciculaso you can set shorter logrotations or even hard limits on log size14:56
Bishacicula: well, it's a docker container i thought that is irrelevant but is relevant14:56
Bishsince logrotate is installed, but not running14:57
Bishso the question is offtopic here i guess14:57
frankiee_docker :((((((14:59
junkaany Spanish people15:00
v7So .. has someone set up Flash Player with Opera ?15:02
aciculaBish: idk, if you run out of space because of logs you'll ahve to modify the docker image to either store less logs, generate less logs, or have larger disk?15:05
acicula!spanish15:05
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.15:05
Bishyeah that is funny, because of the single process policy of docker15:05
Bishhow do i delete logs without logrotate15:06
aciculajust blap /var/log15:06
Bishblap?15:06
acicularemove all logs15:06
Bishyeah well, i would have to do that every 5 days15:06
shredah9hello15:06
Lornzerheyo, any chance for getting glib >=2.44 for trusty anywhere? newest i can find is 2.42. am i out of luck?15:06
aciculayou can put it in a cronjob, though its unclear to me why you cant modify the logrotate conf file to do it for you?15:07
shredah9have question how to tell what intel-graphics firmware installed ?15:08
frankiee_Hi! I'm trying to install lubuntu (32-bit) via a bootable DVD ISO on a HP Pavillion dv1000 with an Intel Celeron 1.40GHz (480MB RAM).15:08
frankiee_But I'm getting: WARNING! PAE disabled. Use the parameter 'forcepae' to enable at your own risk. This kernel requires the following features not enabled on the CPU: Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU. Anybody know why?15:08
frankiee_TJ-: Did you happen to have a trick up your sleeve or something?15:09
aciculaLornzer: the ubuntu desktop ppa has more recent glib builds for trusty. Thread lightly though with ppa's, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/ppa15:09
Southern_Gentlemfrankiee_,  put some more ram in that poor box15:09
frankiee_Southern_Gentlem: No go I'm afraid15:09
junkafrankiee_: or try the 64 bit'15:09
frankiee_junka: Seriously, that might work?15:09
aciculafrankiee_: no if its a 32bit cpu 64bit is not going to boot15:10
junkacheck your Cpu online15:10
aciculafrankiee_: what cpu do you have exactly?15:10
Lornzercheeras acicula15:10
frankiee_Damnit15:10
frankiee_acicula: Intel Celeron 1.40GHz15:10
frankiee_wait15:10
ioriapentium M15:11
frankiee_yup M15:11
ioriano pae15:11
frankiee_cheers ioria15:11
aciculahttp://ark.intel.com/products/27143/Intel-Celeron-M-Processor-360-1M-Cache-1_40-GHz-400-MHz-FSB15:11
ioriafrankiee_, the last is lubuntu 1215:11
frankiee_ioria: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/lubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso ?15:12
aciculathe sheet says 32bit pae?15:12
frankiee_will i be missing out on much?15:12
ioria.try15:12
Southern_Gentlemhttps://www.cnet.com/products/hp-pavilion-dv1000/specs/15:13
Southern_Gentlemdepends on which model he got15:13
ioriafrankiee_, then you do-release-upgrade15:13
aciculafrankiee_: have you tried adding the forcepae boot option?15:14
aciculahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE suggests that that should work15:14
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frankiee_acicula: Forbidden: http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu-fake-pae/15:18
frankiee_Trying to download lubuntu 12 though?15:18
frankiee_ioria: do-release-upgrade, great15:18
ioriafrankiee_, try the flag, maybe it'll work15:18
aciculafrankiee_:15:18
acicula'?15:18
TJ-frankiee_: as soon as the ISO beings booting hold down Ctrl (or possibly Shift) the you can edit the linux kernel command line to include "forcepae" then boot linux with that additional parameter15:19
DTH__hi all15:19
v7Damn this trolls in #linux ...15:22
v7Hate them15:22
frankiee_TJ-: I'm just getting the standard menu15:22
TJ-frankiee_: the boot menu?15:22
frankiee_TJ-: probably, language selection etc.15:23
TJ-frankiee_: if it is the ISO booting using syslinux/isolinux you should be able to hold down a key at boot to stay in the boot menu (this is much earlier than language selection)15:23
TJ-frankiee_: usually I seem to recallt here's a graphical symbol drawn at the bottom of the screen that vaguely looks like a star inside a circle followed by a keyboard-looking rectangle!15:24
frankiee_I was pressing CTRL as well as SHIFT repeatedly during this earlier stage but nothing happened15:24
TJ-frankiee_: there are different keys depending on the age of the installer, BIOS or UEFI, and isolinux or GRUB !15:25
frankiee_ISOLINUX 6.03...15:26
frankiee_Then comes language selection15:26
frankiee_That's all I can do man15:26
frankiee_Let's try that lubuntu 1215:26
TJ-frankiee_: maybe it is at that point then! it should have a list of "install/check/boot from hard disk" with some advanced options along the bottom of the screen accessed by function keys15:27
ioriafrankiee_, usually tab or 'e' on the  highlighted menu entry15:28
ioriafrankiee_, (after the lan selection)15:28
TJ-ioria: that's for GRUB but with {sys,iso}linux its different - function keys along the bottom and whatever the right-most is, that's the one to add Advanced options to the kernel's command line15:31
frankiee_TJ-: what point? yeah there are advanced options at the bottom here in lubuntu 16 but do i use any of them?15:32
frankiee_ioria: Haven't got a LAN lol15:32
ioriaTJ-  oky15:32
ioriafrankiee_,  no internet ?15:33
frankiee_ioria: Nope15:33
kamisamaNeed help with a c program? which channel to go?15:33
ioriafrankiee_,  what you have at hand ?15:33
TJ-frankiee_: aha! take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing_the_CD.27s_Default_Boot_Options15:34
frankiee_kamisama: probably ##c15:34
kamisamathanks, I will try that15:34
kamisama<join>15:34
frankiee_TJ-: so <F5> Add special boot parameters?15:35
TJ-frankie pressing F6 will show some options. PAE won't be there, but it'll also have written the kernel's command line just above and you can edit that test to add "forcepae" in there15:35
frankiee_oh sweet15:35
TJ-frankiee_: see the section just adter there titled "Changing the CD Boot Option Configuration Line"15:35
frankiee_TJ-: sorry but how to i escape the language section? nothing happens when I press F615:36
ioriafrankiee_,  why escape ?15:36
frankiee_sorry my bad15:36
TJ-frankiee_: if you're that far you're got too far. That web page shows a screenshot of the boot screen with the keyboard icon etc. and tells you to press *any* key whilst that is on-screen to get to the boot menu15:37
frankiee_So I add `Expert mode` before `Install Lubuntu` right?15:37
TJ-frankiee_: "As the CD boots, the user can gain access to the advanced page and its options by pressing any key when the small logo appears at the bottom of your screen"   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Ubuntu_CD_Advanced_Welcome_Page_Options15:38
www3www3FODHELP15:39
tojokojoin #ubuntu-de15:39
tojokosorry15:39
frankiee_I'm sorry15:40
frankiee_I'm just not getting any wiser15:40
frankiee_I'm at the boot menu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Ubuntu_CD_Advanced_Welcome_Page_Options but that's about it15:41
destiniIs 16.10 still an evaluation version?15:41
frankiee_The lubuntu 12 CD should be ready by now though.15:41
frankiee_* DVD15:41
destiniOr is properly released?15:41
aciculadestini: released15:41
destiniI'm currently using it15:42
destiniQuite a good change being felt by me so far15:42
destinisince the update15:42
destinihell yeah15:42
mikubuntuwhat's the max ram that anybody here is running? if you max out your ram, does that give you the ability to keep, for instance, lots more tabs open on your browser?15:42
destiniI'm using 32 Gb15:43
frankiee_ioria: hahAAAAAAAAAAA!!15:43
frankiee_thank you man =)15:43
Southern_Gentlem32G with 16 cores15:43
frankiee_lubuntu 12 is ON ROUTE !!15:43
ioriafrankiee_,  ok15:43
frankiee_time to give this old work horse some new LIFE15:43
frankiee_i wish openbsd had a similar thing15:44
frankiee_freebsd has pcbsd but it looks like some old shit your grandma designed :P15:44
Southern_Gentlemrunning 5-6 vms and seeding some torrents15:44
frankiee_freebsd is years behind openbsd anyway15:44
destiniVMWare VSphere15:44
destiniUsing Kali on it15:44
frankiee_man i used to hate ubuntu but this lubuntu thing has got my HEART, goodness gracious!15:45
destiniWith dedicated RAM of 16 Gb15:45
ioriafrankiee_,  yeah15:45
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destiniAnyone interested in coming to my channel #fuckinhackerz ...................???15:48
destiniOnly hackerz........15:48
aciculamikubuntu: if chrome sucks too much memory you can use things like thegreatsuspender15:49
aciculaor tabsuspender, whatever it is called15:50
destiniYou can browse even on the terminal... you do not need chrome for everything15:50
destiniTerminal can also be used as a browser15:50
destiniif and only if you know how to operate it15:51
aciculawell true, but why stop there, all you truely need is netcat15:51
nomiusHi15:54
designbybeckwas trying to install something via snap for the first time....I installed snap itself, but this is a 14.04 server and I get this: ZOE ERROR (from /usr/lib/snap/snap): error opening parameter file15:55
designbybeckZOE library version 2006-07-2815:55
designbybeckit was rocket.chat I was trying to install15:55
nomiusIs it there a way to create a mirror (and keep it updated against Ubuntu mirrors) of the packages I have installed in UBuntu 14 and 16?15:56
nomiusI have two VMs, one running 14.04 and another one with 16.04 with a base system, and I would like to setup an internal repository to keep the "base system " updated based on my definition of base system, but I would like to avoid importing all the Ubuntu repository to create a mirror and only mirroring the specific packages of the "base system" I have created...15:58
Southern_Gentlemnot really mirrors are all all or nothing15:59
kickslednomius: look in to apt-cacher-ng, perhaps thats what you're after. setting up a mirror is all or nothing if I'm not mistaken16:00
audioPhilhey everyone, general question: Looking at repositories and packages I see that some are provided both in main and universe. why is that and what exactly does that mean supportwise?16:00
nacc!component | audioPhil16:00
nacc!components | audioPhil16:00
ubottuaudioPhil: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.16:00
mikubuntuacicula: thx i'll check it out, still interested to know how important and what the limits are for RAM on a 64 bit hp laptop (running lubuntu 14.04).16:01
audioPhilnacc: been there and I don't really understand the wording. main says the software comes with security updates and universe says it is not guaranteed. what applies if I have a package in both of them at the same time? (see, e.g., nginx in trusty)16:04
naccaudioPhil: no package is in both for a release16:04
naccaudioPhil: nginx is in main in trusty16:05
naccaudioPhil: main is 'supported' by canonical's security team16:05
SipriusPT_hello guys, i am not receiving mail at my local server, right now i am using a dynamic IP with a DNS name with reverse DNS. I have also check if this IP was not blacklisted and it is in one from a big list. It is possible that my ISP IP provider is blocking any SMTP connection from my external server to my local server?16:06
SipriusPT_I already did telnet to my external IP to port 25 and it was connecting16:06
audioPhilnacc: that means I misinterpret this link? http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package_metas?exact_match=1&q=nginx From what it shows I suggested that the package is in both of them16:06
ikoniaSipriusPT_: very probably16:07
ikoniaSipriusPT_: do you see anything in your mail log16:07
TJ-nomius: you can use apt-cacher-ng as a proxy in the way you seem to be describing16:07
ikoniaSipriusPT_: are mails attempting to be delivered, or just not hitting the server16:07
guest-KUtB3nhi16:07
naccaudioPhil: why are you using not packages.ubuntu.com16:07
SipriusPT_I have called to tech support and those guys didnt confirm my doubt16:07
ikoniaSipriusPT_: how did you test the port was open16:08
aciculamikubuntu: well a bit more probably since binaries and such are a bigger16:08
SipriusPT_nop i have made a mailq | less16:08
TJ-SipriusPT_: did you external public test come from an external server, or were you trying it from your internal LAN?16:08
ikoniaSipriusPT_: mailq is just what's in the queue16:08
ikoniaSipriusPT_: thats not a valid test16:08
SipriusPT_wait i have test it with telnet16:08
ikoniaSipriusPT_: from where ?16:08
TJ-SipriusPT_: from where?16:08
mikubuntuacicula: just installed greatsuspender i'll see if that helps16:08
SipriusPT_telnet <external IP> <port>16:09
ikoniaSipriusPT_: from where16:09
SipriusPT_locally16:09
ikoniaSipriusPT_: not a valid test16:09
ikoniaSipriusPT_: what is the public IP16:09
audioPhilnacc: because that one just said "security" for nginx, which I could not relate to main or universe16:10
SipriusPT_1 sec i will activate port forwarding16:10
TJ-SipriusPT_: "telnet 93.108.222.79" "Trying 93.108.222.79..." == no response16:10
TJ-SipriusPT_: most domestic ISPs default-block incoming port 25. Some will open it once you've got the server configured and they can test it isn't an open relay, but that is mostly for business customers.16:12
ikoniaI'd beg the question why are you hosting this on a home dsl connect, and why are you hosting it at all if you're not really aware of the basics16:12
SipriusPT_yes this is for an office TJ-16:13
SipriusPT_ikonia: http://prntscr.com/d55bnh16:13
SipriusPT_if you need the dns name i can provide to you in pm16:13
ikoniaSipriusPT_: do you understand how silly what you've just done is16:13
ikoniayou've just obscured the data of somethign that is supposed to be public16:13
SipriusPT_i will send it to you in pm16:14
SipriusPT_1 sec16:14
ikoniano16:14
ikoniajust put it in the channel16:14
ikoniaand you're testing it from the local box....16:14
ikoniathat is not a valid test16:14
ikoniayou should not be trying to run this mail server - you don't understand enough of the basics16:14
SipriusPT_ok16:14
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SipriusPT_i am creating a fresh one16:14
ikoniaa fresh what ?16:14
SipriusPT_mail server16:15
tralalajoin #fluxbuntu16:15
ikoniayes, but you don't know how to run one16:15
ikoniaso you should not be doing it16:15
tralalasorry16:15
SipriusPT_i am learning16:15
ikoniathe world doesn't need another badly configured mail server, and the buiness you are doing this for does not need a broken mail host that is blacklisted16:15
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SipriusPT_i am not creating an open relay if it is that you are asking16:16
ikoniano it's not16:16
TJ-SipriusPT_: if the IP is already on a blacklist (possibly as part of the ISP's CPE block(s) ) then it'll be hit and miss as to which MXs will deliver to it anyhow16:16
ikoniabasically - you should not be doing this16:17
TJ-SipriusPT_: at the least run it from a virtual machine in a data centre, but above all get it installed and managed by someone that is experienced - otherewise, rent the service from a dedicated virtual mail service16:18
chibill_I have a small problem. I am running Ubuntu 16 (Not sure the exact version right now) and I wanted to install a thrid party nivida driver so I could actually use my graphics card. But following a tutorial on how to do so has gotten me no where.16:19
naccaudioPhil: sorry, i'm on the phone16:19
ikoniachibill_: you need to know the version for sure16:19
ikoniathats a key basic16:19
TJ-chibill_: "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall!16:19
BluesKajchibill_, check out additional drivers for the recommended one16:20
chibill_BluesKaj: I tried. They wont install. (Select one and it just goes back to default.)16:21
chibill_Trying to get the actual version number16:22
BluesKajchibill_, then try TJ- 's suggestion16:22
TJ-chibill_: "lsb_release -a" or "cat /etc/issue"16:22
BluesKajchibill_, lsb_release -a in the terminal16:22
audioPhilnacc: no worries. I'm just really trying to wrap my head around this because I need to understand ubuntu packaging in order to make security recommendations16:22
chibill_lib32gcc1 : Depends: gcc-6-base (= 6.0.1-0ubuntu1) but 6.2.0-10 is to be installed16:24
chibill_lib32gcc1 : Depends: gcc-6-base (= 6.0.1-0ubuntu1) but 6.2.0-10 is to be installed16:24
chibill_:(16:24
chibill_stupid keyboard...16:24
chibill_BluesKaj:  the driver depends on lib32gcc1 which can't be installed because my gcc-6-base is too new.16:25
naccaudioPhil: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nginx16:25
chibill_I have Distributor ID: Ubuntu16:25
chibill_Description: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS16:25
chibill_Release: 16.0416:25
chibill_Codename: xenial16:25
naccaudioPhil: you can see that in precise it says [universe]16:25
naccaudioPhil: in all later releases it doesn't, which implicitly is [main]16:26
naccaudioPhil: you can also use rmadison for this16:26
chibill_So yeah.. Not sure whats up with that...16:26
datamaanHey. I've got a am64 install of  ubuntu 16.04 and would like to install libgps-dev and libgps-dev:i386 in parallel. this works without problems for all other libs I tried, but somehow the both versions of libgps-dev conflict and don't allow me to install them both at the same time.16:28
datamaanis there a special reason for this?16:28
BluesKajn chibill_ me neither16:29
TJ-datamaan: probably because the -dev packages both contain the same path/path and that file may have different content16:32
OerHekschibill_, and what nvidia card is this?16:32
TJ-datamaan: during the migration to multi-arch some years ago most of that was resolved but there are some lingering packages16:32
chibill_A gtx960M16:32
SipriusPT_TJ- and ikonia: thanks for the advises, i have tested from an outside pc and it is open that port16:33
chibill_I wish I knew why the drivers are failing to even install. (Like I get dependency problems.)16:33
audioPhilnacc: thx, the implicit part was what I didn't get16:33
audioPhiland rmadison output really helps a lot16:33
TJ-chibill_:  "lib32gcc1 : Depends: gcc-6-base (= 6.0.1-0ubuntu1) but 6.2.0-10 is to be installed" suggests that the apt repository config is for different versions16:34
chibill_Yeah I know. But I can't down grade it. (Tried apt-get says it break stuff and stops)16:35
mjh75SipriusPT_: I have to echo the comments of the others, do not make another mail server if you have any other choice16:35
mjh75But if you are going to make very sure that it is not an open relay, make sure you keep up to date on the patches etc.16:36
TJ-chibill_: well the installed system appears to be 16.04 but APT has the 16.10 repos configured16:36
TJ-chibill_: did you once try to do a "do-release-upgrade" on there which was aborted?16:37
chibill_No[e16:37
chibill_nope. This is a clean install. Only thing done was to get Chrome installed.16:37
TJ-chibill_: show us "pastebinit <( cat /etc/apt/sources.list )"16:37
TJ-chibill_: gcc-6-base 6.2.0-10 is from 16.10 - which means apt is looking at the 16.10 Yakety repos16:38
SipriusPT_mjh75: this is a middle mail server to link external mail accounts with local mail accounts16:38
ikoniaSipriusPT_: that makes no difference16:39
ikoniayou are lacking the basic understanding to do this, and you are doing a bad implementation and should not be doing it16:39
mjh75SipriusPT_: That is a new term for me.....If is speaks SMTP it is a mail server16:39
DeMiNe0Has anyone used both Conjure-up and Autopilot for deploying openstack on ubuntu? Trying to get an overview of whats different between the two. Looks like conjure up is meant for more than just openstack, and works on 16.04. Just can't figure out if there is anything missing in conjure-up thats available on autopilot. Autopilot seems to be the "stable" openstack for ubuntu.16:39
TJ-SipriusPT_: do you mean a mail-relay, as in some other SMTP server is advertised in the domain's MX records but that server forwards to this one you're creating?16:39
chibill_http://pastebin.com/SkapJAGm Note this is my first time actaully touching the sources.list file on this system.16:40
antoninHello ! I'm new to ubuntu (installed it yesterday) and i'm having trouble installing photoshop (need it to work). I'm following the step by step guide from the ubuntu resources wiki but the installation crashes during the installer preparation. Does anyone know what to do ?16:40
ikoniaphotoshop is a windows program16:41
ikoniause the gimp instead16:41
s7urmihello, i'd like to install cinnamon on my ubuntu 16.04 but im not sure whick package i should install. cinnamon, cinnamon-desktop or cinnamon-desktop-environment? What are the differences?16:41
ikonias7urmi: one is a meta package for the others16:41
ikoniacinnamon-desktop should be enough16:41
TJ-chibill_: that looks OK, phew! now show us "pastebinit <( apt-cache policy gcc-6-base )"16:41
s7urmiikonia: ok, thank you!16:42
SipriusPT_TJ- : yes a mail relay, i am sending mail through and external server with SMTP auth16:42
antoninikonia : is it equivalent to photoshop ? I mean, i need to edit pages and my boss wants me to use PS cs616:42
mjh75Incoming or outgoing?16:42
ikoniaantonin: it's an advanced image processing app16:42
SipriusPT_TJ- : yes i have add a mx record for this. Outgoing16:42
ikoniaantonin: it's very well respected16:42
SipriusPT_mjh75: outgoing16:42
TJ-SipriusPT_: so the only actual external SMTP server that will (be able to) deliver to your new mail server will be another host defined as the domain's MX record?16:42
antoninikonia : i'll install it then, thanks ;)16:42
s7urmiikonia: i just noticed it's cinnamon, cinnamon-data or cinnamon-desktop-environment so i shoud go for the -desktop-environment or?16:42
ikonias7urmi: cinnamon-desktop16:43
chibill_http://pastebin.com/WHnfs0Yg Soemthing looks fishy in that to me...16:43
mjh75SipriusPT_: Okay, then that makes life a lot easier (read safer)16:43
ikonias7urmi: it should be called that16:43
chibill_I am 99% sure that shows the problem16:43
ikoniachibill_: what problem is it showing16:43
mjh75SipriusPT_: You should not need to open any incoming ports. Install postfix, configured the relayhost and port. Set it up to accept SMTP connections from the LAN and sort through the relay stuff.16:44
TJ-chibill_: looks like you installed the 6.2.0-10 version manually16:44
DammitJimcan you guys recommend a simple tutorial on how to resize LVM parititions?16:44
s7urmiikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23451609/16:44
DammitJimI need to shrink a partition and give that free space to another16:44
ikoniaDammitJim: a partition or a locical volume16:44
praxilenehi!16:45
TJ-chibill_: so either the system has had the Yakety 16.10 repos defined in apt, and they're now gone, or a do-release-upgrade aborted, or something else installed that 6.2.0-10 version manually16:45
chibill_But the thing is I never did... Any way to possible downgrade it?16:45
DammitJimLVM, sorry16:45
SipriusPT_TJ- : yes the external server will accept and deliver mail through a mx record of my server16:45
chibill_or is that not possible.16:45
ikoniaDammitJim: so what are you actually trying to do clearly16:45
ikonias7urmi: apt-cache search cinnamon16:45
SipriusPT_mjh75: for a moment i was wondering if i was building here some nukes in the garage xD16:45
mjh75SipriusPT_: That sound like incoming.....16:46
DammitJimikonia, let me dig the details out16:46
praxilenequel est le plus stable: ubuntu ou debian, d'après vous?16:46
TJ-chibill_: my best bet is you're installed something else that manually pulled in its own GCC base packages - maybe some other, more up-to-date, GNU language compiler ?16:46
SipriusPT_mjh75: ah yes, that is what i am trying to solve now. I am already able to send mails from multi local accounts to multi external accounts with postfix16:47
darry.it16:47
ikoniaSipriusPT_: you understand that what you've just said contradicts what you initially said16:48
mjh75SipriusPT_: So you have outgoing working....now you want incoming?16:48
s7urmiikonia: https://thepasteb.in/p/Y6hkKv1yrNmH716:48
ikoniaSipriusPT_: you said you needed "incoming" mail - and it wasn't getting deliered16:48
chibill_Okay. Still anyway I can fix that so I can use my grahpics card... (Currently have to use nomodeset to even boot.)16:48
ikoniaSipriusPT_: now you say it's just an outgoing smtp relay16:48
TJ-SipriusPT_: I think you may have misunderstood. I'm describing a scenario where your new mail server is *NOT* in the domain MX record, but another externally managed server is. That external server would be internally configured to deliver all mail for your domain to an IP address you specify (where your new mail server would be listening and only accept connections from that single external server)16:48
SipriusPT_mjh75 and ikonia: sorry you are typing to fast lol16:48
ikoniaSipriusPT_: you should not be doing this - sorry to be harsh, but you don't get it16:48
TJ-chibill_: well, if the core GCC file versions have somehow been updated, rolling back to the expected 16.04 packages could severely break things, especially as it is not clear how it got into that state16:49
ikonias7urmi: cinnamon-desktop-environment should do it16:49
ikoniathere is miss-truth being told here16:49
ikonia"it's a clean install"16:49
ikoniaclearly it's not16:49
DammitJimI have a logical volume that I want to shrink from 14GB to 4GB16:49
ikoniare-install16:49
s7urmiikonia: ok, thank you and sorry for keeping u so busy ;D16:49
DammitJimthat's first step16:49
DammitJimcan I assign the free space to another logical volume?16:49
ikoniaDammitJim: ok, so man lvreduce16:49
DammitJimI think they are both in the same volume group16:49
DammitJimok, thanks!16:50
Tin_mani was wondering, if i install my old ubuntu mate Beta 16.04, will it update to the non beta (it will save me downloading the new iso)16:50
ikoniaDammitJim: once you reduce the volume you can re-use the pe16:50
iparhanhello16:50
DammitJimpe?16:50
ikoniaphysical extent16:50
TJ-Tin_man: yes, standard "apt-get dist-upgrade" or "apt full-upgrade"16:50
chibill_Also jsut did some digging apparently i have  libgcc1 installed which is what depends on that version of gcc-6-base16:50
Tin_manok thanks16:50
iparhanhow i can install radio in unbuntu 16.0416:50
iparhan?16:50
iparhancan any body tell me  ?16:50
donofrioiparhan, radio?  what freq?16:51
iparhanfreq  ?16:51
iparhansorry16:51
ikoniaiparhan: what is your end goal16:51
donofrioiparhan, you said radio?16:51
DammitJimikonia, can I do this on the fly or do I need to reboot the server?16:51
ikoniadonofrio: can you explain why the frequency matters to that question16:51
iparhanyeah16:52
ikoniaDammitJim: on the fly, the man page explains it and how to manage the file system on the volume16:52
donofrioikonia, I dunno I wanted to know what he wanted to listen to16:52
ikoniadonofrio: ok - so that doens't matter16:52
ikoniadonofrio: please try to provide help16:52
donofrioikonia, I thought I was - geesh16:52
iparhan i wanna listen fox news ,BBC  in my ubuntu16:52
iparhanthis is my end goal16:52
donofrioiparhan, apt-get install kodi16:52
iparhankodi  ?16:52
chibill_well I think I need to reinstall to fix my problem... (I can't downgrade libgcc1 which is what somehow bumped my gcc-6-base)16:52
ikoniaiparhan: as in the radio station ?16:52
iparhanis thta a radio ?16:53
TJ-chibill_: as best as I can figure out that 6.2.0-10 came from Debian unstable (sid)16:53
ikoniaiparhan: so unless you have an RF transmitter in your machine you can't listen to radio, you CAN liten to internet radio stations16:53
iparhanyeah16:53
donofrioit's got addons that will allow to listen but others may know better solution16:53
iparhana radio station16:53
mjh75ikonia: RF receiver :)16:53
chibill_wtf.... how did a debain package get on my install of ubuntu....16:53
DammitJimTo be honest, I read the man page and even though I understand some stuff, it's a bunch of scattered information16:54
DammitJimis there an ubuntu recommended tutorial?16:54
iparhano got itr16:54
iparhanthks16:54
ikoniaDammitJim: no16:54
ikoniaDammitJim: what part is not clear ?16:54
donofrioiparhan, then install fusion repo and it will have addon's that have radio for you16:54
iparhanim installing kodi16:54
ikoniadonofrio: fusion ?16:55
ikoniadonofrio: what is the fusion repo ?16:55
DammitJimthat one then needs to use lvcreate to safely shrink the snapshot of the logical volume16:55
ikoniaDammitJim: lvcreate will not reduce a snapshot16:55
datamaanTJ-: ok. I think I'll file a bug-report then16:55
ikoniaDammitJim: lvreduce as I told you will16:55
DammitJimYou  should  therefore  ensure  that  any  filesystem  on the volume is16:56
DammitJim       resized before running lvreduce so that the  extents  that  are  to  be16:56
DammitJim       removed are not in use16:56
donofrioiparhan, https://www.tvaddons.ag/install-addons-kodi/ when finished16:56
iparhano  thanks donofrio16:56
ikoniaDammitJim: right, and thats why I told you the man page will explain how to manage the file system16:56
ikoniaDammitJim: so you have to reduce the file system before you can reduce the volume under it16:56
donofrioiparhan, config wizard will do all you need16:56
DammitJimam I reducing the file system with lvreduce?16:56
donofrioiparhan, config wizard will do all you need16:56
ikoniaDammitJim: no, not unless you use the right flags16:56
ikoniaDammitJim: which is in the man page16:57
DammitJimor do I need to use the switch --resizefs16:57
ikoniaDammitJim: correct, -r / --resizefs16:57
iparhandonofrio  how i can add some files to Kodi ?16:57
donofrioiparhan, hu?16:58
ikoniadonofrio: what is the fusion repo ?16:58
donofrioiparhan, just follow steps that are in that fusion url I posted16:58
ikoniadonofrio: what is the fusion repo ?16:58
donofrioikonia, it's a repository I believe is correct word16:58
OerHeksFusion Installer for Unofficial Kodi Addons16:59
ikoniadonofrio: looks like danger16:59
donofriojust was trying to help16:59
ikoniawhy does he need that ?16:59
donofrioyah good point16:59
donofrio#mybad16:59
ikoniathere are many internet radio stations16:59
iparhano16:59
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iparhandonofrio , sorry body17:01
iparhani followed step but there arent any music or MV ?17:01
donofrioiparhan, if you got config wizard and ran the script it will be under music 'I believe'17:02
iparhancan i add some from internet  or  i cant use this without any files in my computer ?17:02
SipriusPT_sorry for the delay Tj- and ikonia17:03
SipriusPT_TJ- : In my external server i have add a MX record to receive mail in my local server, there i am using cpanel and from what i have seen is the only way available there to reroute mail to my local mail server, there i have set my local server to receive mail with the DNS name who have a reverse DNS, associated with my public IP. The rest is like you said. I am able to do outgoing mail, my main problem is the income.17:03
ikoniaSipriusPT_: you're making a problem17:03
ikoniause a proper mail service - don't host this on a home DSL connection17:03
SipriusPT_ikonia i am listing17:03
ikoniaif you need to, pay someone to manage it, this is not a toy17:04
SipriusPT_=|17:04
iparhandonofrio  , can i add u in other chatting software ?17:05
t3kg33kHello all. I am hoping someone can help me with a simple task17:06
mjh75SipriusPT_: would something like fetchmail do what you are looking for?17:06
donofrioiparhan, uh sure17:08
raspadohi all, when loading a sysctl.d conf17:09
raspadois it best to do a targeted reload like sysctl -p /etc/sysctl.d/conf17:10
raspadoor use --system17:10
iparhandonofiro , which software u have ?17:10
donofriohexchat17:10
iparhangive me your number ?17:10
donofrionah I opened a chat window to you17:11
SipriusPT_mjh75: i have not tried, but that seems exactly what i need!!! Thanks a lot!17:12
SipriusPT_i was trying to set this just with postfix, but i will double check that fetchmail17:13
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mjh75SipriusPT_: Keeps incoming SMTP blocked to your network, allows email to be stored on a real mail server, polled into your internal mail server and then delivered. What you are wanting can be done, but there is a lot of risk. fetchmail might be a good alternative for your needs17:14
t3kg33kI have a few log files I would like to combine into but within that combined log file have the log files filename included in the final combined log file.17:15
SipriusPT_thank you very much again mjh75, that is what i was looking for within postfix, but i notice that was not possible their from what i have saw17:15
t3kg33kIs that possible?17:15
SipriusPT_*there17:15
jnj_Has anyone had any success installing kde connect on xubuntu? I'm trying to make it so that there is a kde indicator in my panel17:15
jnj_I just cant figure out how to install appindicator-3.0117:16
brunch875a "Sign in with your Google Account" just popped. Should I be concerned?17:16
brunch875I have no idea which application is requesting this17:16
Jordan_U!screenshot | brunch87517:17
ubottubrunch875: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imgur.com/ and link the created page here.17:17
donofriobrunch875, when in doubt deny request17:17
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donofriodonofrio, oh sounds like it was working17:17
Jordan_Ubrunch875: It's probably your browser, but it's hard to say without more info.17:17
donofrioI'll go back to mute now - lol17:17
brunch875http://imgur.com/a/Gpolc17:18
brunch875I recognize it to be from the "online accounts" thing17:18
brunch875but that is logged in17:18
eyecrackhello17:20
brunch875I'm wondering if this is a known bug or if I should format17:20
eyecrackother computers cannot connect with hotspot17:21
eyecrackubuntu 16.017:21
eyecrackwhich happened to be my version17:21
brunch875after denying, /usr/bin/signonpluginprocess crashed17:21
SuperJonotronanybody know the methods to access users running binaries from ubuntu-core snaps?17:22
SuperJonotronnormal methods seem to return nothing17:22
stevenmhey why does network manager stink so badly?17:27
popeystevenm: do you have a specific issue?17:27
stevenmif I make my own connection in nm-applet for my onboard interface of enp2s0 then that's fine and it works... lets say i call it "My LAN"... but if I restart network manager... it makes another connection called 'enp2s0' and uses that instead - which seems to be a poor copy of "My LAN" - even though that also still exists17:28
popeyYeah, I have seen similar behaviour17:29
popeypossibly https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=75520217:30
stevenmthe new connection of 'enp2s0' isn't even real though - as if you switch to another... it goes away!17:30
ubottuDebian bug 755202 in network-manager "network-manager: keeps creating and using new connection "eth0" that does not work" [Important,Open]17:30
popeylooks like it's a known bug upstream17:30
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stevenmpopey, it's also got two entries which are "Ethernet Network ()    device not managed"  ... which *might* be vmnet1 and vmnet8 which VMware Workstation/Player has made - but if you edit networkmanager.conf to tell it to ignore them... it doesn't :S17:32
popeystevenm: yeah, sorry, I don't know how to fix that, other than adding a stanza in /etc/network/interfaces, so network manager ignores them fully17:33
munstermanso i have a box that i cannont ssh into, or get a login promt, i do get emails complaining about: 1 - error current pending sector ans 2 - error offline uncorrectable. I have booted into a live session and run smartctl on that hdd and it came back healty. i do not get a tty either. i have tried to go the recovery path but hit kernel panic roadblocks down that road. is there any advaice out there?17:43
munstermanver 16.04 btw, sorry17:43
aciculamunsterman: can you pastebin the output from smartctl?17:46
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munstermanhttps://0x0.st/29V.txt17:49
aciculamunsterman: those errors are spread out17:57
munstermanyes they are17:58
aciculanot that familiar with the errors, but it looks like a bit error (CRC) so just an error in reading which can happen. Anything in the smart statistics themselves?17:58
munstermanlong story short, i was trying to install nextclud, went to reboot because things werent going well and now shes dead in the water17:59
munstermanim confused how it can come alive enough to send error emails but no login promt, or tty even18:00
aciculawell the processes that report might already be running before the disk failure kicks into killing the box?18:01
munstermanhas to be, just weird18:01
mint311hey, this is munster, live boot on my other computer to help with logs18:03
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mint311also, any idea when i drop to a shell from recoverymode it wants a root pw, ubuntu doesnt have a root user18:06
aciculapress enter?18:07
mint311tried it18:07
aciculauser password?18:07
mint311tried it18:07
OerHeksjust your password of the 1st account created18:07
mint311yea, no go18:07
aciculalivecd boot?18:08
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mint311...the solutions listed for that, adding init=/bin/bash, gives me the kernel panic18:08
mint311im on a live boot now18:08
mint311hdd mounts fine18:08
aciculawhat are the smart statistics?18:09
mint311do you have a specific command in mind or just --health?18:10
aciculathe one that gives you a list of the smart counters18:10
aciculaerr -A18:11
mint311https://0x0.st/2vz.txt18:14
aciculaok that raw read erorr rate seems a tad high, heh18:15
mint311but no boot high18:15
mint311tbh, the drive is old af, ide18:15
aciculayou can run a long selftest using -t long18:17
aciculabut it looks like its on its way out and its backup time18:17
munstermanwell,thats not an issue. im about to the point of doing a fresh install anyway18:18
l1nuxbl4ck6h0s7hi everybody18:23
l1nuxbl4ck6h0s7any girl ffro memxico ? lol xd18:23
allamooxGuys I have ubuntu running in Virtualbox, I installed few themes from ubuntuthemes.org and installed unity-tweak-tool. I created a folder called themes under the current user... and extracted my themse there.. but still I can't install it18:24
allamooxplease any ideas will be highly appreciated18:24
allamooxI tried to control the Gnome-core as well... it get downloaded properly but still its not activated . HOWEVER when my box startup it says Gnome ubuntu18:25
allamooxbut the desktop still unity18:25
mint311https://0x0.st/2vK.txt smartlctl long18:27
aciculamint311: smartctl -t short /dev/sdd118:28
aciculaor smartctl -t long /dev/sdd1 (might take awhile)18:28
MishariHello18:29
MishariEveryone here been to Maldives ?18:29
mint311https://0x0.st/2vZ.txt18:29
aciculaheh yeah, it will try to read the entire surface of the disk18:30
aciculaso it will take awhile. short just does a random selection18:30
OerHeksMishari, how is that related to ubuntu support?18:30
MishariI'm sorry, my mistake18:31
MishariSorry OerHeks18:31
Mishariokay, here's a related question.18:33
MishariHow to practice ssh ?18:33
l1nuxbl4ck6h0s7Somebody of Spain or USA wanna do development business with our company of Mexico. Write ceo@easyappscompany.com Best regards.18:33
l1nuxbl4ck6h0s7Somebody of Spain or USA wanna do development business with our company of Mexico. Write ceo@easyappscompany.com Best regards.18:34
OerHeksMishari, good start, the ssh wiki18:35
OerHeks!ssh18:35
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for its homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)18:35
OerHeksl1nuxbl4ck6h0s7, wrong channel to spam18:35
MishariThanks OerHeks  you're always kind person, if you were here next to me I could give you a piece of cake.18:35
OerHeks:-)18:36
ub_ubuntuAnyone using live-patch snap??18:42
mint311acicula: ok so when i smartctl -t short /dev/sdd1 i get the message about how long it'll take and how to abort then it dumps back to a command promt...no output...this cant be normal behavior18:47
mint311there is no smart log in /var/log. what am i missing...?18:50
ridiculeHello.. I have been trying to congigure nginx in ubuntu 12.04 but make command wouldn't work18:52
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ridiculeIt gives the error make: *** No rule to make target `build', needed by `default'.  Stop.18:52
ridiculecould anybody please help me with it18:53
Ben64ridicule: why not use nginx from the repository18:53
ridiculeCos I want to configure WAF along with it18:53
ridiculeBen64, ^18:54
Ben64doesn't sound like a great idea, you'd need to keep on top of security yourself18:55
ridiculeBen64, could you please help me with the nginx18:55
ridiculeI mean.. the make command18:55
Ben64it's worrying that  you don't know how to do that18:55
Ben64maybe you'd prefer the package nginx-naxsi18:56
ridiculeLooks cool. But the place where I work, they want me to go with modsecurity18:57
mint311acicula: i found the log. says health passed18:58
ridiculeWell I also made sure that the build dependencies are installed18:58
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apollo_I installed Ubuntu 16.04.1, fresh on my system. Some videos in firefox won't play. Does anyone have a clue what might be wrong?19:02
mabusinstalling a new motherboard/ram/cpu in my box and putting the ubuntu system drive in it. anything else i need to do to get it to boot19:03
brunch8751apollo_: could you point to one of those videos?19:04
cryptosamWho is using last version of Xubuntu?19:04
tdannecymabus: Check to make sure the cpu is the same (32 or 64-bit)19:05
cryptosamHello all!19:05
squintycryptosam, might want to try asking in #xubuntu.  also better to just state your problem than asking "is anyone......"  :-)19:11
brunch8751Is ubuntu more lightweight than windows? I tried googling but all the results are like "20 reasons why ubuntu is a thousands better than windows"19:12
brunch8751by lightweight I mean less code / more compact19:12
ppfwho knows19:12
ppfwindows is closed source and all19:13
brunch8751indeed... might be a hard question to ask :p19:13
MonkeyDustbrunch8751  FWIW, there's this http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/  http://www.goodbyemicrosoft.net/news.php19:15
brunch8751I'll give it a read! Although I'm afraid it could be a bit biased!19:16
ppfthose are really bad though19:16
instigatorHello. When trying to shutdown my pc, it restarts. Im on ubuntu 16.06. is there a fix?19:16
ppfhow do you shutdown?19:17
instigatordoes this both in GUI and terminal19:17
instigatorsudo shutdown now -h19:17
instigatoruse to work before I upgraded to 16.06 from 14.0419:17
brunch8751instigator: did you try sudo poweroff instead?19:18
cryptosamHow to remove all skype packets? (Xubuntu 16.04). Thanks a lot!19:18
brunch8751I don't remember using shutdown now -hP for a long time now19:18
brunch8751also, might be because you're missing the -P flag19:18
ppfthat's the same command19:18
brunch8751ah, nevermind then19:18
instigatorwell shutting down in GUI doesnt work like it use to19:19
ppf-h == -O and shutdown == poweroff19:19
instigatori think its a bug19:19
ppfdid you look at old dmesg/kern.log ?19:19
ursulo!list19:21
ubottuursulo: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».19:21
rmacHas anyone seen rtcwake work SOME of the time?19:21
rmacI have a cron task that runs every day to sleep my server until 9am (using rtcwake to disk).  I find that it's randomly working.  It used to work correctly every day.  I haven't changed the scripts.19:23
josephjoseph19:23
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rmacThe only thing I did change was moving my system to a new case.19:25
chelioshi there, I am trying to disable 'focus follows mouse' without much luck. I reversed the changes I made to enable it in the first place but it does not seem to work. Any ideas?19:25
tdannecyrmac: Maybe the CMOS battery is old/dead19:27
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rmacCMOS battery is definitely old...  Any idea how it's working sometimes?19:27
tdannecyrmac: Electronics are sometimes weird when they die out. It could work in spurts and then not work for weeks, only to come back again.19:29
rmacRegardless, I'll replace that and hope the problem is fixed.  I'm curious how it works occasionally.  Maybe the battery has just enough power to maintain the boot only occasionally.19:29
rmactdannecy: Thanks for the suggestion19:29
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BaWwhats the best or great GUI text-editor for linux, I'm used to using NotePad++ for windows and I really like it. I have tried NotePadQQ for linux but not a fan of it at all19:37
jattemacs19:37
rmacobligatory vim answer19:37
malkaunsBaW, sublime-text19:37
ShogootHi all. I updated my xenial server an dnow rtorrent is broken. "19:38
Shogoot<Shogoot> No connection to rTorrent. Check if it is really running. Check $scgi_port and $scgi_host settings in config.php and scgi_port in rTorrent configuration file." But my rtorrent IS running. Can i get anyone to help me find out whats wrong?19:38
rmacSublime should be similar enough to NP++19:38
BaW<malkauns> yes i saw that but isnt it $$?19:38
tdannecyBaW: Nah emacs and vim are just what people say. NotepadQQ is pretty great.19:38
malkaunsnot if you're ok with a slight nag19:38
malkaunsonce in a while19:38
BaWyeah not a fan of vim at all19:38
jatt!info emacs | BaW19:39
ubottuBaW: emacs (source: emacs-defaults): GNU Emacs editor (metapackage). In component main, is optional. Version 46.1 (yakkety), package size 1 kB, installed size 25 kB19:39
rmacI run it on my Mac.  Every x number of saves it asks me to purchase with the ability to hit escape to dismiss the popup.19:39
malkaunsyep19:39
BaWsee for my Mac i've been using textmate and love it19:39
ghostmech007what's wrong with vim?  i use it in a pinch but normally use NotepadQQ19:39
BaWunless there is a differ version then what im used to ... isnt it via command line only? yes it will come up with a a gui but in terminal19:40
rmacI use vim primarily and Kate occasionally in Linux19:40
MonkeyDustBaW  'being used to something' is a matter of time, try what's being suggested here and choose what suits you best19:40
jattghostmech007: http://cdn.osxdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/quit-vim-humor.jpg19:40
malkaunsBaW, u can get gedit to look nice with some decent themes and fonts19:41
allamooxHello what is the default root password19:41
rmacjatt: Hahaha!19:41
allamooxin ubuntulog19:41
ghostmech007duh. it's :quit!19:42
ghostmech007oh wait... not it's :wq!!19:42
ghostmech007uhhhh19:42
ghostmech007hold on19:42
jatt😺19:42
ghostmech007i forgot...19:43
ghostmech007haha19:43
rmac:q is quit.  :q! is quit without saving.  :wq is save and quit19:43
Free-Ridertoor19:43
Free-Riderallamoox, for kali it is toor19:43
ghostmech007i know i was just having fun19:43
ghostmech007also you can just do :w to just save19:44
rmacOh, sorry.  Actually trying to be helpful :D19:44
Free-Ridera19:44
ghostmech007what's your opinions on nano19:44
ghostmech007i don't like using it19:44
Free-Riderfree-Rider just going to Quit19:45
rmacghostmech007: I agree.  Don't like using nano.19:46
tdannecyghostmech007: Nano is great. I love it.19:47
ghostmech007uh oh now i started it19:48
rmacWell, now this has to be linked.  Again.  http://xkcd.com/378/19:48
ghostmech007haha that's a good one19:49
jattactually, ed is the best editor: https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.en.html19:50
BaWsorry everyone got stuff on the phone but im back ... reading everything19:51
BaWi tried atom but i hated how slow it was, i'm on a super fast computer and it shouldnt take a text editor 4-6 seconds to open19:52
allamooxIm asking about ubuntu19:52
jattI agree, atom is very slow19:53
ghostmech007never tried it because i heard it caused problems19:53
ghostmech007does anyone know why the ubuntu mirrors have been super slow lately?19:53
BaWlike i really wanted to love atom but it was more of a hate and burn type of thing19:53
BaWhas anyone tried http://limetext.org/ ?19:53
BaWghostmech007 i always use limestone networks always the fastest19:53
ghostmech007BaW: i'll check that out.19:54
ghostmech007BaW: where are they based?19:54
Bray90820So my CherryTrail tablet freezes with high CPU load and I can't see the error in dmesg because the systems frozen how would I be able to view the error19:54
BaWUS19:54
Bray90820It's running ubuntu 16.1019:55
BaWghostmech007 this is what i use http://mirror.lstn.net/ubuntu-releases/19:55
rmacBaW: atom is based on Chromium (web browser) and V8 (javascript engine).  It's slow because you're running web code, not native.19:55
BaWrmac i did read about that but i was hoping it would of been more optimized19:55
jattBray90820: restart and check /var/log19:55
ghostmech007BaW: thanks for that.  do they have a repo mirror as well?19:55
BaWghostmech007 yes19:56
ghostmech007ncie19:56
ghostmech007whoops19:56
BaWghostmech007 i have a 10gbit fiber and always can pull a good 1gbit from them19:56
Bray90820jatt: Would there be a time in the log file so I know what error is what?19:56
ghostmech007BaW: i would download the whole internet with speeds like that19:56
BaWghostmech007 even at home its really fast19:56
BaWghostmech007 i have tried i need more storage19:56
jattBray90820: yes, syslog entries include the date19:56
BaWneed to purchase some 10tb hdd19:56
Bray90820jatt: time and date or just date?19:57
ghostmech007BaW: haha yeah.  I have a 18TB machine at the house that's filling up rather quickly19:57
jattBray90820: per default time and date are there, check /var/log/syslog19:57
BaWghostmech007 what you running for storage? FreeNAS ?19:58
ghostmech007BaW: you see those new 16TB SSD's that samsung dropped?19:58
Ben64!ot19:58
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:58
BaWghostmech007 no but thats so cool19:58
Bray90820jatt: Thanks19:58
ghostmech007BaW: at the low low price of $7200 USD19:59
BaWghostmech007 i can get a good 10 of those before i start crying, jk one would make me cry19:59
Ben64ghostmech007, BaW: please keep the offtopic chatter out of here19:59
FEEDC0DE64hi! is here somebody who could help me to build a safe webserver?20:07
BaWunplug it20:07
BaWjk, what are you running'20:07
BaWphp? mysql?20:08
FEEDC0DE64yeah20:08
BaWapache?20:08
FEEDC0DE64and mail20:08
FEEDC0DE64i am currently installing i-mscp for administration20:08
BaWthis was a good start when i was reading it yesterday20:09
BaWhttps://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-secure-ubuntu-1604-lts-server-part-1-basics20:09
FEEDC0DE64is it possible to move /var to an external drive later20:09
ioriaFEEDC0DE64, are you familiar with the lamp stack ?20:09
FEEDC0DE64i always installed apache2, php5 and mysql-server via apt-get20:10
ioriait's that20:10
FEEDC0DE64and I managed virtual hosts using config files20:10
rmacFEEDC0DE64: you could symlink it20:10
FEEDC0DE64i had multiple troubles symlinking /var20:10
FEEDC0DE64many services would not start anymore20:10
FEEDC0DE64i think I need to stop all running services20:11
rmacYou may have issues because of drive mount order at boot20:11
jattyou can also consider lighttpd instead of apache20:11
Jordan_UFEEDC0DE64: Yes, you could mount a volume from an external drive to /var.20:11
FEEDC0DE64ok but I can only do that via ssh20:11
jattit's faster20:11
FEEDC0DE64i dont have physical access to the machine20:11
BaWjatt makes a great point apache is not as fast as lighttpd, if you can run it i would do it20:11
FEEDC0DE64no i definately want to stay with apache220:12
jattok, it's all about choice 😉20:12
FEEDC0DE64so moving /var data to external drive only is possible when most services are stopped?20:12
FEEDC0DE64will mysql die if I move its data while it's running?20:12
Ben64i'd do it when the system is off20:12
FEEDC0DE64this is very inconvinient for me20:13
FEEDC0DE64I really want to try to do everything via network20:13
Ben64maybe could do it while / is mounted read only20:13
Ben64so set it up beforehand20:13
constlHi, running 16.04, any good app or widget to suggest for monitoring hardware resources of the laptop?20:14
Ben64atop20:15
rmacIf you want to try something graphical, I just found netdata.  https://github.com/firehol/netdata20:15
jatt!info lm-sensors | constl20:16
ubottuconstl: lm-sensors (source: lm-sensors): utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:3.4.0-3 (yakkety), package size 83 kB, installed size 367 kB20:16
ioriathere is by default System Monitor20:16
constlok thank you, will look into these 3 options.20:16
ioriaconstl, just type System Monitor in Dash20:17
constlioria, i have been using this so far but just wanted something that is easier to read, maybe run as a widget on top bar have it as part of my shell somehow20:17
ioriaconstl, a panel indicator ?20:18
ioriayes, there is one20:18
szbHello everybody! I humbly ask for your help: I'm on 16.04.1, and my Unity session won't load anymore (no launcher, no taskbar, no wallpaper...). It must have something to do with me running Bleachbit before the last shutdown, although I only used it to clear out caches from Firefox, VLC, etc. and not system logs (and I didn't run it as root, either). Could you help me troubleshoot this?20:18
ioria!info indicator-multiload20:19
ubottuindicator-multiload (source: indicator-multiload): Graphical system load indicator for CPU, ram, etc.. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.4-0ubuntu4 (yakkety), package size 140 kB, installed size 917 kB20:19
constlioria, if by panel indicator you mean the top bar then yes that would be awesome, something that you could hover your mouse and see quick info20:19
ioriaconstl, indicator-multiload20:19
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ioriaconstl, logout-login, after20:20
constlioria, must have crashed when logged20:22
ioriaconstl, really ?20:22
constlioria, manual start works fine20:25
ioriaconstl,i was suggesting, that ... try to logout-login again20:26
ioriaconstl,i otherwise, we need an autostsrt script20:26
ioria*autostart20:26
constlrmac netdata looks really nice, what's your experience so far?20:27
velushello all im trying to compile a program, and im getting constant undefined reference to `add_dir_entry' all within squashfs-2.2-r2-7z how do i fix this?20:28
OerHeksvelus, we need more info, what program, can you pastebin the log?20:29
velusits firmware mod kit20:30
velushttp://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Development this is basically the program,20:31
rmacconstl: it's really overkill for my use.  A coworker is using it on a few of our servers and loves it.  I've been impressed with the GUI and amount of data, though.  It's really just running a bunch of other standard monitoring tools, though.20:31
rmacIt's surprisingly lightweight too.20:32
OerHeksvelus, so how is dd-wrt related to ubuntu?20:32
NoImNotNineVoltundefined reference errors are related to missing libraries.20:33
NoImNotNineVoltyour program is failing to link.20:33
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velusits not but im compiling it on ubuntu and i cant even compile the program on ubuntu i was told by them to downgrade the gcc and g++ to 4.x which i have done, but it still is failing on me so as they dont have a clue as they can do it on theres (centos fedora and gento) i thought i would ask in here20:34
ioriavelus, clang or gcc ?20:35
velusgcc20:35
jattthere is #gcc20:36
ioriavelus,  i get that is a ' --relocatable/-r linker flag. ' issue ... but idk the fix20:37
netcrime__Hello im trying to install Wine on ubuntu 16 (sudo apt-get install wine) but i get this error: The following packages have unmet dependencies:20:40
netcrime__And if I try to install dependancies it keeps going. Is there a better way to install it20:40
jattpastebin20:40
netcrime__?20:40
netcrime__one sec.20:40
netcrime__jatt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23452548/20:41
jattnetcrime__: you running yakkety?20:43
mabusive been staring at ubuntu boot logo for a few minutes now after putting my hd into a new motherboard/cpu/ram system20:44
mabushow can i get a shell or debug whats going on20:44
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szbnetcrime__, you could try >sudo apt-get update< and then >sudo apt install -f< (the second command will try to resolve problems with broken/partially installed packages). Then try installing wine again.20:44
MonkeyDustmabus  try hitting F12, i guess it will show you the 'text screen' of what's happening20:45
netcrime__jatt: no i dont20:45
netcrime__szb: wwill try20:45
ioria!info wine20:45
ubottuPackage wine does not exist in yakkety20:45
MonkeyDustmabus  it does on my old acer laptop20:45
mabusMonkeyDust: nothing? :(20:45
mabusthanks though. ill try rebooting and hitting f12 earlier20:46
Jordan_Umabus: ctrl+alt+F120:46
Jordan_Umabus: Wait.20:46
mabusJordan_U: ctrl-alt-f1 does not appear to yield a shell anymore like it did in older releases20:46
mabusjust a blinking cursor in top left20:46
netcrime__szb: I get same error20:46
Jordan_Umabus: If you're going to reboot anyway, at least hold shift (if BIOS) or spam escape (for UEFI) during boot to get a grub menu, then select the recovery mode entry from the advanced options submenu.20:47
iorianetcrime__, not sure, but maybe you need a ppa20:47
szbnetcrime__, ubottu just informed us that Wine doesn't exist in 16.10/Yakkety - but I assume you are on 16.04?20:48
netcrime__szb: Yes20:48
iorianetcrime__, cat /etc/issue20:48
szbnetcrime__, do you have Synaptic Package Manager installed? (sudo apt-get install synaptic)20:48
R063r1I need help installing google chrome20:48
R063r1Preferably through command line20:49
szbR063r1, Google Chrome is available as a .deb on their website, but ONLY in 64bit.20:49
netcrime__ioria: 16.04.1 LTS20:50
iorianetcrime__,  apt-cache policy wine20:50
netcrime__szb: just installed20:50
R063r1szb in which I have dl it alread20:50
R063r1y20:50
velus#gcc is not talking20:51
mabusJordan_U: booted up just fine after a reboot. may have been a loose cable in one of my drives or something  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯20:51
R063r1the computer will not let me install it20:51
szbnetcrime__, alright! Can you open it and go to Settings >> Preferences and check if you have the box 'Consider recommended packages as dependencies' enabled?20:52
netcrime__ioria: Installed: (none)20:52
netcrime__  Candidate: 1:1.8.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10.1~ppa120:52
netcrime__ I have to items in version candidate20:52
szbR063r1, alrighty then! What seems to be the problem? :)20:52
netcrime__szb: ok20:52
iorianetcrime__,   you already have a ppa :þ20:52
R063r1it will not let me install it szb20:53
tojokohi20:53
netcrime__ioria: how can i remove them ? I added two one for dev version one normal20:53
iorianetcrime__,   and maybe is causing a conflict20:53
szbR063r1, are you trying to install it via Ubuntu Software?20:53
R063r1as in use chrome20:53
tojokoi unfortunately crashed my ubuntu installation and now it won't boot from  hard disk anymore :(20:53
R063r1yes and it will not let me20:53
ioria!info ppa-purge20:54
ubottuppa-purge (source: ppa-purge): disables a PPA and reverts to official packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.8+bzr63 (yakkety), package size 6 kB, installed size 24 kB20:54
netcrime__szb: I cant seem to find Preferences in Settings window20:55
szbR063r1, IMHO the Software Center is glitchy... You could try Gdebi instead! (sudo apt install gdebi)20:55
R063r1is there a command that I can use20:55
szbR063r1, then you can right-click the .deb-file and open it with Gdebi20:56
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szbyou could use 'dpkg -i' or you could use gdebi on the command line (which is particularly nice because it will pull in all dependencies for you!)20:57
szbR063r1, like "sudo gdebi google-chrome-.....deb" or whatever the deb-file is called :)20:57
velusi have a little buggy ubuntu question. every so often my laptop crashes (fully freezes to the point i have to hard reset it) and when it loads back up i get to a screen i need to type in fsck /dev/sdb1 and then fix it20:58
veluswhat causes this20:58
ioriafaulty hard disk ?20:59
szbnetcrime__, strange! Does it show you the menu bar with "File -- Edit -- Package -- ..."?20:59
szbnetcrime__, sorry, i misread your answer. For me, "Preferences" is right on top of the drop-down menu!20:59
procyonHello, I cant access a captive portal on a comcast public wifi hotspot. Using 16.04 and various browsers but still no luck. No firewall, no adblockers. Other captive portals seem to work fine. Any advice?21:00
jamie_1hey i have an odd question, is there a way for me to make a like package for a play on linux piece, like say i used play on linux to make a setup for a windows program like a calculation program, can i take that and make a package i could put on like a github for me to just download/clone and install on another machine?21:01
jamie_1would make my life so much easier21:01
MonkeyDustjamie_1  sounds like open source policy21:02
jamie_1MonkeyDust: ?21:02
MonkeyDustjamie_1  so i guess you could, if the source were available21:02
veluscould be a faulty hdd thinking about it21:02
netcrime__szb: ioria: Thank you for help. Im leaving this for next day21:03
R063r1ok it is now installed21:03
szbnetcrime__, you're welcome! good luck! :)21:03
R063r1thankyou szb21:03
szbR063r1, cool! :D21:03
jamie_1MonkeyDust: well i have a personal program made that runs on the .net due to what i built it with awhile ago and would like to be able to just make a package from the play on linux setup i have on my one computer21:03
procyonContinued: Connecting to the public wifi works but every url times out. 1.1.1.1 redirects to what seems to be a login, but it times out before any data is exchanged21:04
MonkeyDustjamie_1  this is channel is for specific ubuntu issues21:05
jamie_1MonkeyDust: i know, but i thought someone in here might know where everything for it would be21:06
jamie_1also... good luck getting as response on #playonlinux21:06
jamie_1*a21:06
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sector327anyone available to help troubleshoot gnome shell integration issue?21:11
sector327I am running UB 16.04LTS, gnome desktop and I had gnome shell integration extension installed on chromium when I was running fedora. Now that I have installed UB, I log into chromium with my google account, it loads all my bookmarks, extensions etc and now I get a constant pop up that there is a Gnome Shell Integration error. "no such interface 'org.gnome.Shell.Extensions' on...???21:11
sector327pic of error - https://s16.postimg.org/cxunzvnj9/2016_11_08_10_50_25.jpg21:11
szbsector327, you should ask in #ubuntu-gnome! Have you checked if that extension is working in Gnome 3.18 (which 16.04 is using)? Fedora probably is one or two steps ahead and so might be the extension...21:12
szbsector327, wait! You are using Unity?21:14
sector327szb, thanks for the reply. I've asked in ubuntu-gnome but no one has replied. good idea about the extension21:14
sector327yes. unity21:14
sector327szb, good catch. I didn't even realize I'm using hte unity desktop with ubuntu!21:15
szbsector327, Unity is heavily based on Gnome, but it is not Gnome! So there is little to no chance to get any of the Gnome-Extension working, as they are specifically made for Gnome-Shell and not much else!21:15
sector327durrr21:15
sector327szb, so any words of wisdom on how to remove the extension?21:15
szbsector327, haha, i know that feel, bro! ^-^21:15
szbsector327, sorry, not really! From the top of my head i don't know the path where they are usually stored... You might want to check on extensions.gnome.org and see if they give instructions as to where you have to put it in the first place.21:17
sector327szb, when I go into chromium extensions to remove it, it shows as "installed by enterprise policy" which I'd assume just means root21:17
sector327szb, ok good idea. thanks for the lead!21:17
szbsector327, you could try installing the gnome-tweak-tool (which should work in unity). It has an option to enable/disable extensions21:17
drew__hi. i feel so dumb asking this here, but im new to ubuntu, i just went to play minecraft, and my saved worlds are gone? am i screwed or is there a way to recover them on ubuntu?21:18
sector327drew__, welcome. can't help you on your issue as I dont do computer games. just wanted to say there's only no dumb questions, just dumb people. (or something like that)21:19
sector327;)21:19
sector327drew__, have you checked out Ubuntu forums? they have a section just for gaming.21:20
sector327https://ubuntuforums.org/21:20
szbdrew__, I don't know where Minecraft saves its files. But search your Home folder for minecraft and see if anything shows up. It's probably a hidden folder.21:20
szbmight be stored in "~/.minecraft" or "~/.local/share/minecraft" or something like that. the path might differ quite a bit, depending on the program.21:22
szbdrew__, if you can find out in what format the save files are stored you can also search for those and check if there are any!21:22
drew__sector327 i shall check out the forums now :) thank you kind sir :)21:25
drew__szb i'll try that now :)21:25
Bishsomebody familiar with rsyslog?21:25
Bishand willing to tell me how the f* i stop postfix from logging into syslog?21:25
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szbGuys, I'm on 16.04.1 and my Unity session is broken, it won't load. I couldn't find anything on this issue for specifically for 16.04 so far (there are 'fixes' for earlier versions but they don't work for me) and I'm not even sure where the problem is located. I suspect my last usage of 'Bleachbit' deleted something that it shouldn't have, although I'm quite familiar with its functions and I've used it countless times before without21:29
szbtrouble! I also can't just reinstall Unity because I have lost any internet connection on that machine... Do you have any leads for me? :321:29
bayebonsoir comment migrer vers ubuntu mate 16.1021:35
bayebonsoir comment migrer vers ubuntu mate 16.10 ?21:36
NoImNotNineVolt!french21:37
ubottuNous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.21:37
caleb_hi21:37
szbbaye, je ne sais parler Francais... Cette channel est en l'anglais! Mais je croix il y a #ubuntu-fr pour les peuples francophones!21:37
caleb_hi sickos21:37
NoImNotNineVoltd'accord.21:37
bayeok  merci szb21:37
caleb_motherfuckers21:37
veluscan i do a wildcard install with a not condition on it i.e i want to do a wildcard libstdc++-5-* but not have 5-doc21:39
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R063r1Hello21:44
sector327ello21:44
velushello21:44
szbhello again, guys! :)21:44
boquete___Hay21:44
veluscan you use a not (i am asuming !) in a whildcard search on apt21:44
naccvelus: what would that mean? show an example, I mean. I don't believe that is possible, btw21:45
velussay i want to install all libstdc++-4.9-* except libstdc++-4.9-doc chould i do a not in the wildcard21:46
velusis the not symbol in shell !21:48
naccvelus: what would your example regular expression be? i don't think that's expressible21:48
naccvelus: apt isn't using the shell to expand the pattern21:48
velusi thought it did21:48
naccthen it would be using local files to determine what is being searched for, which makes no sense21:48
naccvelus: you may want to read `man apt` and `man apt-get`, the install section21:49
naccvelus: i believe apt can do it21:49
naccvelus: `apt install libstdc++-4.9-* -libstdc++-4.9-doc`, maybe?21:50
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sphrakHi, I am a bit confused about the munin version in xenial repo, when reading the docs for munin it says version 2.1.x is installable via apt?21:59
nacc!info munin xenial22:00
ubottumunin (source: munin): network-wide graphing framework (grapher/gatherer). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.25-2 (xenial), package size 104 kB, installed size 572 kB22:00
naccsphrak: what docs?22:00
bobdobbsHi. I've got an issue with installing pretty much anything using apt on ubuntu 16.04. Every apt operation returns errors related to a particular package22:01
sphraknacc https://munin.readthedocs.io/en/2.1.2/installation/install.html this22:01
bobdobbsThe feedback from apt always has a passage that looks like this: http://hastebin.com/sobenerulu.sql22:01
naccbobdobbs: pastebin the error22:01
naccsphrak: "Please note that this might not be the latest version of Munin"22:01
sphraknacc: ohh it confused me since it was filed under 2.1.222:02
naccbobdobbs: what version of ubuntu?22:02
bobdobbsnacc: Ubuntu 16.04.122:02
naccbobdobbs: emacs25 is only available in zesty, which is supported in #ubuntu+1 currently. If you installed that package from a PPA, please contact the PPA owner, as the pacakge appears broken.22:02
bobdobbsoh dang22:03
bobdobbsthanks nacc22:03
naccbobdobbs: np22:04
thechancegwhat irc client do you recommend?22:04
nullbitesI like weechat22:06
nullbitesPreloaded plugins22:06
nullbitesEasy sasl support22:06
nullbitesand the configuraqtion is kind of weird but is super intuitive when you get use to it.22:07
thechancegcool. I'll check it out. Thanks22:08
bobdobbshey this is odd. I'm basically in the process of purgng  emacs on my system so that I can proceed to try and install the latest version. I'm removing a package called 'emacsen-common'. The output while I'm removing it includes this: http://hastebin.com/ivibahonaw.erl22:18
bobdobbswhy are all these packages being nuked?22:18
meeseeksare you using apt-get or aptitude? and because you selected for it to delete those? instead of picking another option.22:19
bobdobbsit looks like the system is basically removing gnome. Does gnome depend on emacs? that doesn't sound right22:19
bobdobbsmeeseeks: I'm using apt-get22:19
bobdobbsIt's too late. It's already happened22:20
bobdobbsdoes this mean I'll have to reinstall gnome?22:20
bobdobbsdamn. it removd ubuntu-desktop22:22
bobdobbsthat's really odd22:22
bobdobbsI'm in big trouble on my next reboot22:22
SonikkuAmericabobdobbs: No you're not.22:23
SonikkuAmericaIt's just a metapackage.22:23
SonikkuAmericaIt only contains instructions for installing other packages, and doesn't have its own self-contained binaries.22:23
SonikkuAmerica!metapackage22:23
ubottuA meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.22:23
bobdobbsoh22:23
bobdobbsthanks SonikkuAmerica22:23
velushey im now getting /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lstdc++ am i right i have installed a lot ot libstdc++ libraries and i thought that would of fixed it22:23
veluswhat am i missing22:23
Bray90820So my CherryTrail surface 3 running ubuntu 16.10 freezes on high cpu load and I need to hard shutdown my system here are some error from when it froze while playing a bluray rip22:24
Bray90820http://pastebin.com/raw/sQJQHqyV22:24
meeseeksbobdobbs: yes youll have to re install gnome. also stop using apt-get and use aptitude, it handles dependencies better22:26
bobdobbshmmm.22:26
naccmeeseeks: i don't think that's an accurate help statement; as in, it's not because of the use of apt-get that the user chose to say yes to removing a bunch of packages22:26
bobdobbsk, I just did 'apt-get install gnome'. A lot of packages are downloading22:27
SonikkuAmericaWell, you've just installed the whole GNOME suite... are you sure you didn't want, say, ubuntu-gnome-desktop ?22:27
bobdobbsI'm just so used to using apt :/22:27
bobdobbsSonikkuAmerica: I honestly don't even know22:27
SonikkuAmericabobdobbs: What are you trying to do?22:28
bobbobI'm back. Sorry, my gnome session crashed.22:33
bobbobI got dumped to a gnome login screen22:33
bobbobnow when I try to login via gdm, I enter my password, get the "denied" rattle, and stuck stuck in the gdm screen...22:34
bobbob... but at the gdm screen I chose "openbox" as my desktop environment. After that, gdm accepted my password.22:35
bobbobbefore my desktop crashed, I was asked what I was trying to do22:35
bobbobthe answer is "update emacs22:35
bobbob""22:35
bobbobbut in the process of trying to update emacs, I totally broke gnome22:35
bobbobso... how can I restore it?22:36
Ben64bobbob: how does updating emacs do this22:37
bobbobBen64: In broke something by adding a PPA that gives access to emacs25.  So I removed the PPA. Then I removed all the packages associated with it. Then I went on to remove system emacs22:38
bobbobsystem emacs includes a package called emacsen-common22:38
bobbobremoving that removed a lot of gnome things22:38
bobbobopenbox feels fast. but I feel like I'm back in the late 90's22:39
welovfree_how can I list software I installed ?22:40
welovfree_and see which taking more space than others?22:40
zykotick9welovfree_: install debian-goodies package then run "dpigs"22:41
welovfree_zykotick9, is this the command " sudo apt-get install debian-goodie"22:42
zykotick9welovfree_: but debian-goodies is the package name22:43
bobbobI guess I could install kde, but I'd prefer to use the gnome desktop environment22:43
Ben64are you on ubuntu or ubuntu-gnome or...?22:44
bobbobBen64: I'm using ubuntu 16.04.22:45
Ben64then install ubuntu-desktop22:45
Bashing-omwelovfree_: maybe something like ' dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages ' and look through the text file "my-packages" to see  what is , As to dis space, I use a 'du' command, like ' cd / ; sudo du -sx * | sort -n ' . If you need to drill down further, use cd to move to a directory of interest then repeat the du command.22:45
Bashing-omThe results are in megabytes ,22:45
bobbobBen64: I think it's already installed. I'll check in a sec... (when my console has returned from installed kde)22:46
zykotick9Bashing-om: if you're going that way, i'd suggest ncdu22:46
Ben64ncdu is fantastic22:46
\9sort -n and sort -h exist o_o22:47
\9and i just last week wrote a script to deal with that22:47
bobbobBen64: like, I think that 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' was one of the first things I tried to reinstall gnome. But the feedback from the console told me that the package was already installed.22:47
bobbobI'll be able to tell you soon22:47
Bashing-omzykotick9: Noted ! and agreed , I will try and keep it in mind .. will so note it .22:48
melthey i have ubntu 14.04 installed with linux kernel from repo, can i install linux kernel 4.8 over top of it?22:50
bobbobBen64: ok, I ran 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'. The command failed with this output:22:50
bobbobhttp://hastebin.com/fiwasibaze.sql22:50
\9that's a bug in package configuration that ubuntu still hasn't bothered to fix22:50
bobbob\9: was your last directed to me?22:52
\9yeah22:52
bobbobif so, does that mean Im' pretty much screwed? no more kde or gnome?22:52
\9you need to fiddle with the packages somehow22:52
bobboboh god22:53
\9bobbob: http://askubuntu.com/questions/621284/unmet-dependencies-when-trying-to-install-kde-plasma-5-3-on-ubuntu-15-0422:53
bobbobthat possibility always horrifies me. I've never been able to recover from an apt-get issue. I always end up having to reinstall the OX22:53
bobbob*os22:53
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bobbob\9: actually, that looks kinda easy. I'll do that.22:54
veluswhat is the wildcard in aptitiude23:00
whothehellamihi, I am trying to create a Dockerfile build up on http://fabiorehm.com/blog/2014/09/11/running-gui-apps-with-docker/. In this example 14.04 is used but I am using 16.04 and now I get an error "cannot create /etc/sudoers.d/developer: Directory nonexistent". Any suggestions?23:01
Tater419register ch4man5523:02
velushow do i stop it so i dont have to do sudo all the time in my account?23:02
Tater419register ch4man5523:03
antoninHello, i'm new to linux (installed it yesterday) and i found out my audio is in lesser quality... is there a way to fix this ? Like installing other drivers etc ? I didn't find something stating this issue on the documentation23:04
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Ajannahello, I'm a dummy on Ubuntu 16.04. just formatted my external drive and now it's not displaying anymore...23:06
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melthey i have ubntu 14.04 installed with linux kernel from repo, can i install linux kernel 4.8 on this?23:07
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Tater419REGISTER Hrk79vTx8I rslemo@aol.com23:07
antoninlooks like no one can help us tonight ajanna ^^23:08
Ajanna@antonin ;(23:09
supersupperWhats the best way to benchmark my lan?23:11
supersupperi'm upgrading my network and I want to get a before/after idea23:11
supersupperSCP seems slow?23:11
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bobdobbs2I'm back! I got the gnome desktop running on my system again! This makes me happy!23:13
bobdobbs2But no I'm running an edge version of emacs.23:13
bobdobbs2I'd like to remove it so that I can use a stable version23:13
geniisupersupper: Using iperf as described at http://askubuntu.com/questions/7976/how-do-you-test-the-network-speed-betwen-two-boxes  is probably what you want23:16
BaW<bobdobbs2> i just came across this https://code.visualstudio.com/ so far very happy with it23:18
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BaW<bobdobbs2> i was trying to figure out best text editor or at least something better then gedit and notepadqq and the code one was by far the best. super clean and easy23:18
antoninHello, i'm new to linux (installed it yesterday) and i found out my audio is in lesser quality... is there a way to fix this ? Like installing other drivers etc ? I didn't find something stating this issue on the documentation23:19
bobdobbs2BaW: I'm pretty attached to emacs. I'm a long-time user23:19
bobdobbs2BaW:23:19
bobdobbs2BaW: yes, the term 'stockholm syndrome' may come to mind23:20
BaW<bobdobbs2> understand, i'm a long time notepad++ user on windows and was trying to find something close to it for linux and thats what i just started using today and so far love it23:20
bobdobbs2k23:20
trd90000https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mvUhg6iXKU - Scott Roberts gets his mercury fillings removed (must watch)23:21
bobdobbs2it certianly looks pretty23:21
BaWvery pretty and fast less then 0.002 to open on my ubuntu setup23:21
bobdobbs2I might take it for a spin!23:21
bobdobbs2but for the moment I'll try and get emacs25.1 isntalled23:22
BaWusing about 55mb tho wish it was a little smaller but hey when you got 32gb ram do you really care anymore?23:22
bobdobbs2but thanks for the link. it does look worth testing!23:22
BaWyour welcome23:22
trd90000Are you successful or not? Well, how much money do you have? That's the measuring stick of success in a Jew civilization.23:22
hggdhtrd90000: stop23:22
geniibobdobbs2: https://launchpad.net/~adrozdoff/+archive/ubuntu/emacs23:23
geniibobdobbs2: May set fire to your house, eat your pets, etc... the usual warnings about using PPAs23:23
bobdobbs2hehe23:24
bobdobbs2yeah23:24
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bobdobbs2I'm still kinda recovering from a cataclysmic emacs install23:24
bobdobbs2it borked my apt! And then when I removed it, removing emacs removing gnome-desktop!23:25
bobdobbs2I don't know how23:25
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Bashing-ombobdobbs2: In removing many PPA packages, and reverting back to what is in the repo, there is ' ppa-purge '.23:31
Bashing-om!ppa-purge | bobdobbs223:31
ubottubobdobbs2: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html23:31
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zombiexhello23:42
zombiexdrone23:43
mikubuntumaxthon browser ran fine on this box previous to the big crash. since someone helped me install it last week, it will not render certain sites (facebook is one of them), so that's a dealkiller for me and maxthon. anybody know what the issue might be?23:47
mikubuntuthe error message i get on maxthon is "Unable to make a secure connection to the server. This may be a problem with the server, or it may be requiring a client authentication certificate that you don't have. Error code: ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR"23:49
mikubuntumaxthon will render yahoo.com, but not google.com23:51
sphrakhi, im trying to get munin running on a server. but im getting 404's in the access log (nginx). But when I check the www directory the file is there.. could it be permissions?23:59

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