[00:05] <hdon__> hi all :) i want to issue a command that will apt update && apt upgrade && apt install foo -- but without interactive prompts. "-y" option seems insufficient. any advice?
[00:06] <ej> why is -y insufficient?
[00:08] <th0r> there are some packages that will pause during install and wait for a response.
[00:09] <OerHeks> maybe 2 times -y: apt update && apt upgrade -y && apt install foo -y
[00:09] <OerHeks> or start with -y
[00:10] <FinalX> hdon__: DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get
[00:10] <FinalX> so, "DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get update" for instance.
[00:11] <ArrEmmArrEff> can you have encrypted lvm AND a seperate /home?
[00:12] <acicula> ArrEmmArrEff: how do you mean separate home?
[00:12] <bekks> ArrEmmArrEff: Sure.
[00:12] <ArrEmmArrEff> im currently sacrificing encryption for a seperate home partitioni
[00:12] <ArrEmmArrEff> which would i have to set up first?
[00:12] <acicula> you can encrypt the separate home partition yes
[00:12] <ArrEmmArrEff> theres no way to do it in the installer
[00:13] <ArrEmmArrEff> i have laptop with 20gb ssd and 320gb hdd i installed to the ssd for speed and moved my /home to the hdd
[00:14] <ArrEmmArrEff> i liked that it would ask during boot for the encryption passkey
[00:15] <ArrEmmArrEff> but if i seperate the /home in the installer i lose my encrypt option
[00:15] <acicula> yeah i understand, i dont know how to set that up in the installer
[00:15] <ArrEmmArrEff> i dont think its possible to do both just one or the other
[00:15] <bekks> ArrEmmArrEff: you could use the ubuntu server install iso for doing so.
[00:16] <ArrEmmArrEff> really bekks ? does it differ much from the desktop?
[00:16] <acicula> i think you just get more options in the text based installer?
[00:16] <ArrEmmArrEff> its just personal laptop
[00:16] <bekks> ArrEmmArrEff: the installer gives you quite more options. Liking pointlessly mixing full disk encryption and ecryptfs.
[00:16] <bekks> *server installer
[00:16] <ArrEmmArrEff> wicked
[00:17] <ArrEmmArrEff> thanks bekks and acicula
[00:17] <bekks> ArrEmmArrEff: Just think about wether encrypting your /home isnt enough.
[00:17] <acicula> (dont use ecryptfs and fde at the same time though)
[00:18] <ArrEmmArrEff> what do you mean bekks
[00:18] <acicula> i think he wants to encrypt both, but the installer only lets him encrypt the /
[00:18] <ArrEmmArrEff> i just dont want my data readable by extracting my hdd
[00:18] <ArrEmmArrEff> yes acicula
[00:18] <ArrEmmArrEff> i was hoping for the screen during boot that asks for the encryption passcode
[00:20] <acicula> i think if dm-crypt is installed that is what happens
[00:20] <bekks> ArrEmmArrEff: WHICH data? your / or your /home ?
[00:21] <bekks> ArrEmmArrEff: and you still can use FDE with creating a crypted LVM spanning both disks.
[00:21] <ArrEmmArrEff> lol sorry bekks my /home data. i dont think theres much in /system or /boot i need to worry about right?
[00:21] <bekks> ArrEmmArrEff: Correct. So you are totally fine with just encrypting /home.
[00:22] <ArrEmmArrEff> bekks!! but i only get an option do do so on the server iso? right
[00:22] <Guest43> hi guys. on Ubuntu 16.04 if I issue shutdown -h now && exit, I get a different exit code (not 0) than I was getting with ubuntu 14.04. How can I get exit code 0 please?
[00:22] <ArrEmmArrEff> ok awesome
[00:22] <bekks> ArrEmmArrEff: you can encrypt /home from the desktop installer.
[00:23] <ArrEmmArrEff> bekks!! even if it on a seperate disk ?
[00:23] <bekks> ArrEmmArrEff: Sure.
[00:24] <ArrEmmArrEff> bekks!! ugh haha i tried and tried and as soon as i try to move my /home it grays out the encrypt option
[00:24] <bekks> ArrEmmArrEff: how do you "move" your /home in the installer?
[00:25] <ArrEmmArrEff> editing the partition scheme from default to put /home on sdb
[00:26] <bekks> ArrEmmArrEff: do so and just select "encrypt" then, for /home.
[00:27] <ArrEmmArrEff> ok bekks ill give it another shot i was pretty sure once i moved the /home it would not let me chose to encrypt tho
[00:28] <ArrEmmArrEff> bekks!! its the screen that says install ubuntu along side existing, install only ubuntu overwriting the disk, encrypt the full disk, or something else
[00:29] <bekks> ArrEmmArrEff: and you want something else...
[00:29] <ArrEmmArrEff> and i have to chose "something else" to get the partitioin editor to move my /home
[00:29] <ArrEmmArrEff> ya
[00:29] <bekks> ArrEmmArrEff: And?
[00:29] <ArrEmmArrEff> and then i didnt see an option to encrypt after that
[00:30] <ArrEmmArrEff> unless im real dumb and missed it somehow
[00:30] <bekks> ArrEmmArrEff: So create a LVM volume group spanning both disks... as pointed out above.
[00:30] <ArrEmmArrEff> lvm group... ok i dont think i did that
[00:35] <sector327> anyone available to help troubleshoot gnome shell integration issue?
[00:35] <sector327> I am running UB 16.04LTS, gnome desktop and I had gnome shell integration extension installed on chromium when I was running fedora. Now that I have installed UB, I log into chromium with my google account, it loads all my bookmarks, extensions etc and now I get a constant pop up that there is a Gnome Shell Integration error. "no such interface 'org.gnome.Shell.Extensions' on...???
[00:37] <sector327> here's a pic of the errors that keep popping up - https://s16.postimg.org/cxunzvnj9/2016_11_08_10_50_25.jpg
[00:42] <ArrEmmArrEff> thx again bekks
[00:52] <makoya> Hello guys
[00:52] <makoya> I am new to linux
[00:53] <makoya> What are the essentials after installing ubuntu
[00:53] <Bashing-om> !manual | makoya
[00:53] <sector327> makoya, that's a HUGE question.
[00:53] <OerHeks> use it.
[00:54] <makoya> oh, thanks
[00:54] <sector327> makoya, as much as I hate to say "google it", there's lots of bloggers that give tips and tricks on just that very thing
[00:54] <sector327> http://www.webupd8.org/2016/04/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-1604-lts-xenial-xerus.html
[00:54] <OerHeks> tons of guides 'what to do after installing ubuntu' with lots of tips and PPA's and sometimes wrong advise, read them all
[00:55] <makoya> i have ubuntu 14.04 and my system prompts to upgrade
[00:55] <makoya> i only did apt-get update
[00:56] <sector327> OerHeks, I agree. read them all and take the common parts as a safer bet
[00:57] <sector327> makoya, updating to 16.04 is a good bet. personally I don't like to upgrade. just back up your home directory, do a fresh 16.04 install. I find its just cleaner that way
[00:58] <OerHeks> Poe's Law: always upgrade
[00:59] <Bashing-om> makoya: 14.04 is supported 'tol April of 2019, whereas 16.04 embraces systemd as the inititate system and is the wave of the future. Maybe good to get into systemd now as opposed to the older ways ??
[00:59] <makoya> sector327, am I good without updating..ignore the grammar, english is not my first language, last time i installed ubuntu 16,04 it was not shutting down
[01:01] <elisa87> http://askubuntu.com/questions/847286/importerror-no-module-named-cffi
[01:04] <sector327> makoya, you're fine wihtout updating as it is still supported. If you are just learning though, I would go to 16.04 as OerHeks suggested
[01:05] <Echo6> I'm getting an error that says that my partitions are set beyond the end of the device. I had restored a backed up 64GB SDCard to another 64GB SDCard from a different manufacturer. How do I adjust it? I know that it is currently set to 5,582,080 and the end of the device is at 5,570,432.
[01:06] <OerHeks> sector327, not saying upgrade to 16.044, but just getting the lists is not enough.
[01:07] <OerHeks> but ubuntu happen to update in the background, that is the message/gui he has seen
[01:09] <makoya> is it really worth it to migrate from ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04
[01:11] <OerHeks> Depends on your hardware and needs, some fresh hw have benefit, some services are newer, like php 7
[01:11] <energizer> what can I do about this apt authentication error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23449002/
[01:12] <OerHeks> energizer, get the key for W: GPG error: http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt xenial-pgdg
[01:12] <OerHeks> must be on the page you got that repo from
[01:12] <makoya> is it really worth it to migrate from ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04
[01:13] <sector327> makoya, that is up to you. As mentioned, if you are new and will be learning, you should learn the "new version"
[01:15] <energizer> OerHeks: perfect, thanks
[01:15] <makoya> thanks
[01:16] <energizer> OerHeks: i've never understood how all that stuff works, is there a good introductory resource for packaging,keys,auth, etc?
[01:16] <makoya> let me do a fresh install, see you guys, I have to rufus on windows
[01:18] <OerHeks> https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA or in depth http://packaging.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-packaging-guide.pdf
[01:18] <Bashing-om> makoya: As you have unubtu installed ..you do not "have" to rufus .. in linux we can 'dd' a .iso file to convert to a install medium .
[01:19] <energizer> OerHeks: ill check it out, thanks
[01:24] <saucybood> saucybood:donkey14
[01:24] <saucybood> nuts
[01:31] <guest1110101> I've been experiencing a problem noticing Ubuntu on a dual boot until I'd run EasyUEFI and forced ubuntu to the top of the boot order.
[01:32] <guest1110101> This doesn't fix my problem however as I need both Windows and Linux for my work.. now that I have access to linux, how do I force a menu to appear to boot into either windows or Linux?
[01:33] <guest1110101> I'd made sure to tell the program to let me boot into windows on restart in case I couldn't boot into the new install of Ubuntu on the 400 gb partition using EasyUEFI..
[01:34] <guest1110101> What can I do to take advantage of this current system while it's booted?
[01:34] <Bashing-om> guest1110101: I would expect terminal command ' sudo update-grub ' to do that .
[01:34] <guest1110101> thank you.. I'll try that
[01:35] <sector327> guest1110101, I would abandon dual boot and just use a virtual machine instead
[01:35] <guest1110101> cant
[01:35] <sector327> otherwise you'll always battle grub updating everytime you upgrade. (at least to me I did)
[01:35] <guest1110101> I don't mind that
[01:36] <guest1110101> I've used Linux off and on for 5 years. Everything is a welcome new learning experience. I'm starting to study a Linus cert
[01:38] <guest1110101> alright, I'm restarting
[01:39] <guest1110101> Windows, gosh dangit.
[01:40] <guest1110101> I'm still not being offered is the boot menu.
[01:40] <guest1110101> but the system is there and working
[01:42] <DrStrainge> Hi
[01:42] <rease> hii
[01:43] <DrStrainge> so what are we stand for ?
[01:43] <OerHeks> DrStrainge, read the topic?
[01:44] <DrStrainge> i will
[01:44] <rease> whats the topic bro??
[01:46] <rease> dear friend, i have a question.. how to change mac address on ubuntu??
[01:47] <sector327> rease - The jelly bean is neither made of jelly nor is it a bean. Discuss
[01:47] <squinty> !topicc
[01:47] <OerHeks> networkmanager can do that, setup a new profile and spoof mac
[01:47] <guest1110101> select the network icon and edit connections.
[01:48] <squinty> !topic
[01:48] <OerHeks> there might be scripts that do that randomly too
[01:48] <guest1110101> I'm open to suggestions to enable the menu. I'd trouble shoot myself  (and have over last week), but I don't want to ruin what I have.
[01:49] <guest1110101> I can access the system with EasyUEFI, but would like to enable the dual boot menu to access the 2 different systems
[01:50] <guest1110101> tried the command for Windows and ubuntu, neither take even though they update sucessfully.
[01:50] <guest1110101> the thing is that Windows doesn't even see it in the drop down in start/rec
[01:51] <guest1110101> I wonder if that's a clue.. what's really the issue?
[01:52] <guest1110101> why does EasyUEFI see ubuntu but windows administration tools not..
[01:52] <guest1110101> there has to be something I can do to enable the dual boot menu
[01:53] <OerHeks> never heard about easyUefi, not using uefi myself too, but our wiki is normally a good start
[01:53] <OerHeks> !uefi
[01:54] <guest1110101> I guess there is a muscommunication. I'm familiar with hardware and the bios aspects
[01:55] <guest1110101> I need to know more technical information about how to enable the dual boot menu. these things are built to work even if their quriky. since I can boot both, it's not even a question of incompatibility
[01:56] <guest1110101> the grub update command won't work and neither will it's equivalent on windows
[01:57] <guest1110101> they both tell me that the operation/update complete successfully on the command line though..
[02:05] <guest1110101> easy mmmm
[02:05] <guest1110101> whoops.. darned smartphone
[02:06] <guest1110101> EasyUEFI is a software for Windows while it's booted in. it's not a part of the bios
[02:06] <guest1110101> I take it nobody here has an answer for me regarding my dual boot problem.. I'll just lurk
[02:09] <Bashing-om> guest1110101: Many/most are not comfortable with EFI to this time . right to lurk and await a response from those here who do have the experience .
[02:22] <myndzi`> what might cause the apt package `nodejs` to become installed automatically after i've explicitly removed it?
[02:26] <mjh75> a dependancy?
[02:26] <myndzi`> if that was the case, wouldn't i be warned when removing it?
[02:26] <myndzi`> i built 7.0 from source, but something is causing apt to install the package and overwrite it with 4.2.6
[02:28] <Bashing-om> myndzi`: Any of these apply ' apt-cache rdepends nodejs ' ?
[02:29] <myndzi`> do you mean, do i have anything installed from that list?
[02:29] <myndzi`> (and apt can't tell me?)
[02:30] <btcquant> Still unable to get AMD GPU drivers installed.
[02:30] <btcquant> Here are the steps to replicate:
[02:30] <btcquant> 1. Download latest Ubuntu install image 16.04.1
[02:30] <btcquant> 2. Install Ubunutu on clean, erased drive
[02:30] <btcquant> 3. sudo apt-get update;  sudo apt-get upgrade;
[02:30] <btcquant> 4. reboot
[02:30] <razor234x7> hey i just upgraded my system and now i cant get xterm or ttl to load? any help would be awesome!!!
[02:31] <myndzi`> i'm not actually sure what causes node 4 to become installed again, it doesn't appear to be an apt command i run but i'm not 100% certain
[02:31] <btcquant> Sorry for the "flood", thought this would all go in one message.   I'm 100% stuck in getting AMD drivers installed.  Has anybody else had the same issue?
[02:32] <OerHeks> btcquant, depends what GPu you have, if it is supported then it is enabled by default.
[02:32] <btcquant> GPU is AMD Rx 470
[02:32] <btcquant> Motherboard is new Asus z170
[02:37] <razor234x7> magck12
[02:37] <OerHeks> btcquant, 470 seems supported, maybe you do need the 4.8 kernel that comes with 16.10 ..
[02:38] <btcquant> OerHeks Interesting, hadn't tried that.   Current AMD driver install actually generates a new initrd image, and sets it as main boot image in grub.  That's what fails.   I'll try 16.10 to see if it makes a difference.  Thanks!
[02:39] <razor234x7> actually just solved the problem i had
[02:51] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> howdy, anyone know why running scripts is returning permission denied?
[02:57] <v7> Where I can find lib64/libMonoPosixHelper.so ?
[02:59] <macon> Ernie mauff
[03:01] <macon> Ernie mauff
[03:01] <kk4ewt> v7 mono-core
[03:03] <v7> kk4ewt: sorry ?
[03:05] <v7> I have only 32 bit I guess ... I need one for 64
[03:06] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> I got it working
[03:06] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> chmodded it
[03:06] <fn2> i'll brb :)
[03:11] <winterbear> Trying to get an ubuntu install that doesn't explode. I've tried on 3 separate computers now, with 16.04, 16.10 and the daily. All of them fail in various ways. Right now, it's "mount: can't find /root in /etc/fstab ... mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: no such file or directory ... run-init: current directory on the same filesystem as the root: error 0". I installed with standard partitioning + lvm + luks with no custom options (try
[03:11] <winterbear> or enter an infinite loop)
[03:12] <winterbear> Also this is with a legacy bios install. It looks like the ubuntu livecd doesn't support uefi boot, is that correct?
[03:16] <JoePhi> Well, offhand, I'd say the livecd should be bootable on UEFI because https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI mentions a boot screen explaining that "4. the "UEFI: USB" line allows to boot the Ubuntu liveUSB in UEFI mode. "
[03:16] <JoePhi> I've often wondered about that myself, but I have yet to have a working UEFI computer.
[03:17] <winterbear> My motherboard does not recognize a UEFI boot partition for the install, but then again it only recognizes EFI boot code which is located in EFI/Windows/boot or the like
[03:19] <winterbear> Where do I start debugging the ubuntu install? I think it doesn't even get through the initramfs handoff
[03:19] <winterbear> And the message seem to imply that lvm and dm-crypt are unused
[03:24] <winterbear> After 2 reboots, it started booting correctly.
[03:43] <hanasaki> in kde, how do you change the width of borders on windows to make them wider for resizing?
[03:52] <BenderRodriguez> how do I forcefully remove and purge a package?
[03:53] <Bashing-om> BenderRodriguez: 'sudo apt purge <package> ' .
[03:54] <mystictot> how to add cc recipient in the reply
[03:58] <makoya_> ;-)
[04:00] <mystictot> how to add cc recipient in a reply in mutt
[04:00] <mystictot> ??
[04:03] <BenderRodriguez> Bashing-om: I get this dpkg: error processing package mysql-server-5.7 (--configure):
[04:04] <BenderRodriguez> Basically something went wrong with the mysql-server package
[04:04] <BenderRodriguez> and now I can't remove it
[04:04] <BenderRodriguez> I tried apt remove --purge mysql-server
[04:04] <BenderRodriguez> and apt purge mysql-server
[04:04] <BenderRodriguez> even apt autoremove mysql-server
[04:04] <BenderRodriguez> nothing =/
[04:05] <BenderRodriguez> it keeps trying to reconfigure/reinstall mysql-server ( I guess in an attempt to repair it?) and fails
[04:05] <BenderRodriguez> and the operation halts
[04:08] <fahmi> #ubuntu
[04:10] <fahmi> ping
[04:10] <fahmi> hello
[04:15] <BenderRodriguez> fahmi: PONG
[04:17] <Bashing-om> BenderRodriguez: I am not a good one to advise about mysql-server - do not use it .. but how about ' dpkg -l mysql-server-core ' or maybe more proper as ' dpkg -l mysql-server-core-5.7 ' . Need to identify the correct name of the package .
[04:17] <ledeni> BenderRodriguez, try apt clear && apt autoremove  mysql-server
[04:18] <Bashing-om> !info mysql-server-core-5.7 xenial
[04:18] <Bashing-om> !info mysql-server-5.7 xenial
[04:20] <Bashing-om> !info mysql-client-5.7 xenial
[04:25] <yolanda_> hi ya
[04:32] <pconstantin> ?
[04:38] <ITLArYcLIMinaL> all right so we still need to know which poor defenseless third world country trump is going to bomb to prove he is president of the barbarian states
[04:39] <yolanda_> well, trump is a cave-man..that's why.
[04:39] <yolanda_> he has confederate money in his matress
[04:39] <yolanda_> lol
[04:39] <yolanda_> even I'd put on a pair of skates again of he wins...
[04:40] <yolanda_> welcome _antl
[04:41] <dax> no politics in #ubuntu, thanks
[04:43] <rifter> !ot yolanda_
[04:43] <yolanda_> hi rifter :)
[04:43] <rifter> I guess you need ops for the bot to listen
[04:43] <rifter> hi yolanda_
[04:43] <rifter>  :)
[04:44] <rifter> we have t o focus on ubuntu issues here. There are plenty of politics channels and private windows as well
[04:44] <yolanda_> 10-4 Sir..hrmm..
[04:44] <yolanda_> noted.
[04:44] <yolanda_> and thank you in advance..peace!
[04:44] <yolanda_> and when I go to South Africa..I'll buy a beer for the ubuntu guy
[04:45] <yolanda_> 8r
[05:10] <HelpMePls> Hi
[05:11] <HelpMePls> Would anyone be able to help me with using sed?
[05:14] <c06> hi all
[05:15] <c06> my https is getting timedout but my http connection working fine
[05:15] <c06> i connected my via proxy how to establish https connection
[05:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !ot
[05:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> can't join
[05:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> irc client issue
[05:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> or something
[05:17] <Bashing-om> !register | SebthreeBQM10HD
[05:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> oh
[05:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> oh of course that would explain it
[05:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> not logged into this name
[05:20] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Bashing-om, ah well I just wanted to see if anyone was talking trump in there :D  got other channels to
[05:21] <SebthreeBQM10HD> but that's  a bit silly to have it is a logged in only channel
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> just for feedback: i fixxed a broadcom unclaimed wifi card issue on a HP w10 notebook by disabling secureboot to make it recognized on ubuntu
[05:51] <Gat0r> ls
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> can anyone confirm that clementine can sync iphone
[06:44] <pokergod> archive.canonical.com is down, anyone here able to reset it? :)
[06:49] <ilken> HILLARY IS GOING AND MEXICO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THE WALL
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> not here ilken
[06:50] <ilken> HILLARY IS GOING AND MEXICO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THE WALL
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> pokergod: perhaps the #ubuntu-mirrors know more of it?
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> !ot | ilken
[06:50] <pokergod> is there a way to increase/adjust my /boot partition?
[06:51] <ilken> HILLARY IS GOING AND MEXICO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THE WALL
[06:53] <B00B1E5> Is there a way to start an SSH server without admin privileges?
[06:53] <Ben64> B00B1E5: no
[06:54] <B00B1E5> Damn. Thanks
[06:54] <hateball> Googling suggests it is tho
[06:54] <B00B1E5> I locked myGoogle didnt really give me anything
[06:54] <hateball> B00B1E5: http://serverfault.com/questions/344295/is-it-possible-to-run-sshd-as-a-normal-user
[06:54] <B00B1E5> Gnoere the first bit
[06:55] <hateball> You need to use a port over 1024 I assume
[06:55] <B00B1E5> ......I cant type
[06:55] <B00B1E5> That sounds good, thanks
[06:55] <Ben64> oh, i wasn't thinking of that
[07:05] <maddawg2> god i'm gonna be sick
[07:05] <maddawg2> :-(
[07:05] <maddawg2> oops wrong channel
[07:08] <b3h3m0th> How do I setup SSHFS on OSX Sierra 10.12 so that I can open the files on the remote Ubuntu server on my mac using sublime ?
[07:08] <b3h3m0th> sorry, wrong channel
[07:15] <Bray90820> OerHeks: you around?
[07:36] <for{}> hi, how can i open "system settings" from command line? i run ubuntu 16.10
[07:36] <EriC^^> unity-control-center
[07:37] <for{}> ok, thanks a lot
[07:37] <EriC^^> no problem
[07:42] <user190357> on ubuntu 16.04, i inserted a DVB-T stick, module is loaded but no /dev/dvb?
[07:43] <hateball> user190357: any mention in dmesg where it may have gone?
[07:44] <user190357> ah. firmware not found
[07:51] <hateball> user190357: iirc there is a package with extra firmware, but I dont recall the name...
[07:53] <user190357> downloaded from linuxtv.org and put in /lib/firmware, now it works. thanks :)
[07:54] <hateball> user190357: :)
[08:19] <user13589671> another problem. my video codec doesnt handle movement well https://img42.com/Vuy7m
[08:20] <user13589671> also happens on google chrome flash video. havent tried youtube
[08:20] <Ben64> that looks like interlacing
[08:22] <user13589671> can i disable that?
[08:22] <Ben64> it's from the source
[08:22] <Ben64> would help if you explained what you're doing though
[08:23] <user13589671> streaming through dvb-t
[08:24] <user13589671> and nicovideo.jp
[08:25] <user13589671> well, maybe i should try more videos and see if it happens everywhere
[08:49] <tremby> I have a radeon graphics card and use the open source radeon driver. I had no problem at all with it with 12.04. Yesterday I updated to 16.04 and I now get total system freezes frequently. I've tried installing the oibaf drivers; that didn't help. I'm trying now to try a mainline kernel but am having trouble installing it.
[08:49] <king0099> hey
[08:50] <tremby> I got the image and headers packages from kernel.ubuntu.com. But when I try to install them I get linux-headers-4.8.5-040805-generic depends on linux-headers-4.8.5-040805; however: Package linux-headers-4.8.5-040805 is not installed.
[08:54] <tremby> Oh, I think I need the _all file too...
[08:54] <EriC^^> tremby: yeah
[08:55] <tremby> Yeah that installed
[08:56] <tremby> OK, now (after a graphics crash) I say reboot and it kicks me off SSH but it doesn't actually reboot, so I have to hit the reset button, which makes me cringe...
[08:56] <tremby> And after it starts I'm going to cry if I still get the crash. That and Trump is just too much.
[09:04] <rory> I got a new laptop, what else do I need to do to get my gpg key working, apart from copying ~/.gnupg directory to the new laptop?
[09:04] <rory> I tried only copying that directory but I can't decrypt any of the stuff I can on my old laptop. I get the error no valid openPGP data found
[09:04] <rory> also things like gpg --list-keys give no output. I checked file ownership is OK.
[09:07] <tremby> So with the latest mainline kernel my graphics hang still sort of happens, but the system recovers itself. So a big improvement on totally locking up the graphics stack, but still worse than back with ubuntu 12.04 :(
[09:08] <DevAntoine> hi
[09:09] <tremby> %s/12.04/14.04/g
[09:09] <DevAntoine> I don't know if it's specific to xubuntu, but sometimes when I do something in Chrome (type some text, click some link), my whole system freeze, I have to do a hard reboot. I'm using Xubuntu 15.10.
[09:10] <ducasse> DevAntoine: 15.10 is eol
[09:11] <DevAntoine> ducasse: yeah, I know that
[09:11] <DevAntoine> and I'm not willing to upgrade for now
[09:13] <ducasse> DevAntoine: then you have a problem. you won't get security patches or bugfixes, and there is no support for eol releases.
[09:14] <DevAntoine> ducasse: atm I don't want to switch to php7 nor bother with some vms or dockers
[09:15] <ducasse> DevAntoine: that's your choice.
[09:15] <DevAntoine> you know, even when 15.10 was the stable release I had this issue
[09:16] <DevAntoine> anyway, I should have bet that someone would tell me that
[09:17] <rudy_72> hi
[09:18] <ducasse> DevAntoine: you could have filed a bug back then, but now it's too late. you reaaly should consider upgrading or going back to 14.04 if that is an option.
[09:19] <Guest65988> i am getting problem with my linux mint 64 bit OS. when i open my terminal or driver window it opens but showing nothing.
[09:20] <Guest65988> any help
[09:21] <DevAntoine> ducasse: yeah, I know, but I'm kinda scared about how long it will take to have PHP5.6 back. It's my work machine, I can't waste a day upgrading it
[09:21] <DevAntoine> this is my exact issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/651574/chrome-is-freezing-ubuntu-when-opening-a-tab-or-restarting
[09:21] <DevAntoine> seems I have to disable the gpu acceleration
[09:22] <Guest65988> somebody is there!!
[09:23] <hateball> !mint | Guest65988
[09:23] <Guest65988> ty sir.
[09:33] <Phothrism> What's the correct way to run commands/scripts on startup? Googling reveals like 5 different ways, is there a prefered one?
[09:34] <EriC^^> Phothrism: which ubuntu version are you using?
[09:35] <Phothrism> 16.04
[09:35] <EriC^^> !systemd | Phothrism
[09:36] <Phothrism> I see, thank you
[09:37] <EriC^^> Phothrism: no problem
[09:38] <CtrlC> how can I exit a ssh connection opened with -N option?
[09:39] <rahul-kumi> msg nickserv identify wolfgang
[09:39] <ikevin> CtrlC, try ctrl+d
[09:39] <ubuntu631> Hello
[09:39] <CtrlC> ikevin, the ssh is in the background. I can't do that.
[09:40] <hateball> rahul-kumi: perhaps a good idea to change your nickserv passowrd
[09:40] <ubuntu631> Can someone help me out?
[09:40] <hateball> !ask | ubuntu631
[09:40] <rahul-kumi> :$, i am on it
[09:40] <EriC^^> CtrlC: try "jobs" then kill %<job number>
[09:40] <CtrlC> here's the full options: -D 6222 -f -C -N
[09:40] <CtrlC> let me try.
[09:41] <hhee> got as issue, when i copy paste in terminal, for example, i conected to remote machine, (fedora linux) copy n paste, and got 0~/usr/bin/postgresql-setup --initdb1~   <--- what is it in begin-end symbols? i exactly copied as i need. both console (local and remote) utf-8
[09:41] <CtrlC> EriC^^, jobs gives me: [1]+  Stopped  python3 and that's it.
[09:41] <ubuntu631> Windows 10 updates getting rid of grub, have to change the boot order in bios every time I have an update...
[09:41] <hhee> in this case i copied /usr/bin/postgresql-setup --initdb1  only
[09:42] <EriC^^> CtrlC: does "jobs" list it ? or ps ?
[09:42] <ubuntu631> !ask | hateball
[09:43] <EriC^^> ubuntu631: what do you expect you can do about that?
[09:43] <hateball> ubuntu631: I think you misunderstand the point of that trigger...
[09:43] <hateball> !who | ubuntu631
[09:43] <hateball> ubuntu631: Also I do not know about your question, I do not use Windows
[09:44] <CtrlC> EriC^^, jobs no. It just gives me the output I pasted. There are a bunch of sshs in ps. I'm not sure which is that though. I even tried pkill ssh but the port is still taken.
[09:44] <ikevin> ubuntu631, according to some forum, this is a working solution: http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-windows-10-with-uefi
[09:46] <ubuntu631> !ikevin says if using latest ubuntu that guide is irrelevant
[09:46] <ubuntu631> !who | ikevin
[09:46] <ubuntu631> how
[09:48] <ledeni> ubuntu631, use  ikevin,
[09:48] <ubuntu631> ledeni ok
[09:48] <ubuntu631> use it how exactly
[09:49] <ikevin> ubuntu631, if you read correctly, you can see a solution from windows 10 : bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi
[09:49] <ikevin> just need to check if the path is correct
[09:50] <ikevin> i can't try it because i don't use w10
[09:51] <EriC^^> that's an ubuntu path, and it is correct
[09:51] <EriC^^> for ubuntu 16.04
[09:51] <EriC^^> some guy in the comments did say it rendered his pc unbootable though
[09:52] <ubuntu631> ikevin, this post doesnt mention anything about issues after win 10 updates
[09:52] <caine> is there a good video game console modding network someone could point me to?
[09:53] <ikevin> EriC^^, every bootmanager modification can render the pc unbootable
[09:53] <ubuntu631> ikevin, my dual boot works perfectly, until there is a windows 10 update
[09:53] <ikevin> w10 update has maybe just include a bootmanager update
[09:53] <EriC^^> ubuntu631: i guess windows is putting itself first in the efi boot manager list
[09:54] <ubuntu631> ikevin, well that is incredibly annoying
[09:54] <ubuntu631> so there is no stopping it
[09:54] <EriC^^> that mentioned workaround could work in theory cause it changes what windows bootmanager boots
[09:54] <ikevin> EriC^^, that sure, they always do that
[09:54] <EriC^^> but some guy did say it made his pc unbootable so who knows
[09:55] <ubuntu631> the os are on seperate hdd too
[09:55] <EriC^^> if you have a windows cd you can always reset the bcd stuff if it fails
[09:55] <ubuntu631> when there is an update it changes the boot order in my bios...
[09:55] <ubuntu631> i dont even have to touch grub to fix it
[09:55] <ubuntu631> just change boot order again
[09:55] <EriC^^> yeah, and if windows is set to boot the ubuntu efi file (grubx64.efi) then that won't matter anymore
[09:56] <EriC^^> even if it's first in the boot order, it would boot ubuntu, but if you ever remove ubuntu you'd need to reset the windows bcd to boot windows again
 if you have a windows cd you can always reset the bcd stuff if it fails <== or can change the bios setting to boot on grub and booting windows and restoring windows bootloader
[09:58] <EriC^^> ikevin: that makes sense
[09:59] <ubuntu631> ikevin, i suppose so
[09:59] <ubuntu631> ikevin, most posts i find about doing that claim the workaround doesnt work anymore and every time win 10 receives an update it over writes the boot files
[10:00] <ikevin> ubuntu631, i think it just override files depending of his configuration
[10:00] <ikevin> if you change his configuration, it would stay
[10:01] <ikevin> it's the same case if you have multiple windows installation
[10:02] <ikevin> and it's same for grub, if you forgot to add windows entry at any update, windows will no more be prompted in grub menu
[10:06] <ledeni> ubuntu631,1 download https://sourceforge.net/projects/supergrub2/files/2.02s5/super_grub2_disk_x86_64_efi_2.02s5.iso/download 2 put on usb stick 3 make boot in efi from usb stick. 4 find ubuntu and boot from menu supergrub 5 once you boot ubuntu run grub-update in terminal
[10:08] <rory> why is my terminal putting ^M instead of newline when I press Enter?
[10:09] <Onepamopa> guys, I accidently deleted all files in a folder, tried installing trash-cli and running trash-undelete, however, it goes "Segmentation fault"
[10:09] <Onepamopa> can someone explain why ?
[10:10] <Onepamopa> trash-list also segfaults
[10:10] <ikevin> Onepamopa, use testdisk
[10:11] <EriC^^> Onepamopa: try ls ~/.local/share/Trash/files
[10:11] <EriC^^> see if your files are still there
[10:12] <Onepamopa> EriC^^, no they aren't
[10:12] <Onepamopa> I used rm -f * in that folder
[10:12] <EriC^^> Onepamopa: use testdisk as suggested by ikevin
[10:12] <Phothrism> Hi, so I made a systemd service that starts on startup, but it fails with the error "mount error(101): Network is unreachable"
[10:12] <Onepamopa> EriC^^, does it work on an encrypted disk ?
[10:12] <EriC^^> Onepamopa: what filesystem were they on?
[10:12] <Phothrism> However running the command normally with sudo works everytime
[10:13] <ikevin> Phothrism, add a depend to network on your script
[10:13] <Onepamopa> EriC^^, the default, I haven't changed anything during setup, just llvm disk encryption
[10:13] <EriC^^> Onepamopa: yeah, you are going to need to use photorec and extundelete
[10:14] <Phothrism> It has the line "After=network.target" is this not the correct way? ikevin
[10:14] <EriC^^> Onepamopa: photorec searches for files and can recover them, but it won't preserve the names or dir structures
[10:15] <EriC^^> extundelete might be able to recover with dir structure, and check out magicrescue never tried it but it came up in the search apt-cache search recovery
[10:15] <ikevin> testdisk seems to work with encrypted disk
[10:15] <ikevin> Phothrism, can you pastbin your script?
[10:15] <EriC^^> this package might be useful too forensics-all
[10:15] <EriC^^> ikevin: yeah it does, ext4 is pretty hard to recover with testdisk unfortunately
[10:15] <Onepamopa> ikevin, what partition do I select? the /devmapper one or /sdaX ?
[10:16] <ikevin> devmapper
[10:16] <Phothrism> Actually I found a stackexchange saying network-online.target will work better, I'm gonna try that
[10:17] <Onepamopa> ikevin, there are two: /dev/mapper/sda5 319G; /dev/mapper/ubuntu-vg-root 315G and the swap
[10:18] <ikevin> Onepamopa, it depend of your partitions
[10:18] <Onepamopa> only 1 partition: / and swap
[10:18] <Onepamopa> the "default" setup
[10:18] <yoli23> ikevin pulpo
[10:18] <Onepamopa> so do I select /dev/mapper/sdaX or /dev/mapper/ubuntu-vg-root
[10:19] <ikevin> i think ubuntu-vg-root, while in testdisk you will see if it's the good one
[10:19] <Onepamopa> ikevin, there are also /dev/dm-0/1/2 with same sizes as /dev/mapper
[10:31] <Onepamopa> ikevin, well, the files were empty
[10:34] <allamoox> Hello can I activate  a theme in my ubuntu without a third party softwarE_
[10:34] <allamoox> ?
[10:34] <ikevin> Onepamopa, i see on google there are a lot of howto about testdisk and encrypted disk on gc-security
[10:36] <Onepamopa> ikevin, nevermind .. :) I'll just recreate the contents from a backup and do all changes again
[10:38] <acicula> allamoox: yeah you dont need additional software to change a theme, unless you mean you want to use different programs for displaying info?
[10:43] <jophish> hi all
[10:44] <jophish> is it possible to unmount the live usb and still install ubuntu. This would involve moving the contents of the usb to some ramdisk
[10:45] <acicula> jophish: you'd have to do that at boot
[10:46] <acicula> acicula: its a boot option it seems
[10:46] <acicula> jophish: even :P
[10:46] <acicula> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM
[10:48] <jophish> acicula: I've never seen anyone mention themselves on IRC before :)
[10:48] <mike_papa> Hello. I have 2 exactly same laptops. One with fresh, and clean install of Ubuntu 16.10, second with same fresh xUbuntu 16.04. When I run upower, I can see that Ubuntu 16.10 has discharge rate of 16-18W when idle, and xUbuntu is discharging at 21-23W. Shouldn't xUbuntu be less power consuming? Was there any significant change in power management between 16.04 and 16.10?
[10:48] <jophish> I'll take a loo, thanks!
[10:49] <Sven_vB> can systemd start my webserver on demand (connection arrives), and forward all TCP connections on its port to the same instance of my webserver, as separate TCP connections, or even unix domain socket connections?
[10:49] <acicula> mike_papa: i doubt there is a big difference between power use for xUbuntu vs ubuntu. could also just be measurement differences, do you see a big difference in battery life?
[10:49] <Sven_vB> xinetd seems to only know CGI mode
[10:50] <acicula> Sven_vB: you mean xinetd?
[10:50] <ph88_> running ubuntu in vbox .. this happened when doing sudo apt update   https://i.imgur.com/pBNzCFO.png
[10:50] <acicula> Sven_vB: what do you mean by CGI mode?
[10:50] <ph88_> miraciously my mouse still works
[10:51] <Sven_vB> acicula, CGI mode = start a new instance of program for each connection that arrives
[10:51] <hhee> can't install mysql-workbench on ubuntu 16.10 - Dependency is not satisfiable: libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.13-4)
[10:51] <hhee> whta can i do with that?
[10:52] <ph88_> hhee, apt-cache search libpng
[10:52] <hhee> ph88_, already did it
[10:52] <ph88_> what did you get ?
[10:52] <acicula> mike_papa: oh missed that you have two different versions, kernel version might have a big impact on how often the cpu is used perhaps?
[10:53] <hhee> ph88_, wait i pastebin
[10:53] <hhee> ph88_, http://pastebin.com/ALMbcHzK
[10:53] <hhee> seems like version conflict
[10:53] <acicula> is 16.10 out?
[10:54] <EriC^^> yes
[10:54] <acicula> hhee: whats the output from apt-cache policy libpng ?
[10:54] <ph88_> hhee, i think 12-0 is part of the package name libpng12-0 which is not in the repo
[10:55] <hhee> acicula, yep. 16.10 release. output is N: Unable to locate package libpng
[10:55] <hhee> ph88_, maybe. how can i handle this?
[10:55] <hhee> need mysql-workbench for work
[10:55] <mike_papa> acicula: I just tried live xUbuntu on first one to make sure, and it's 21-23W discharge as well, so you may be right. I'll check kernel version on Ubuntu.
[10:55] <acicula> hhee: what repo are you installing mysql-workvebcg frin?
[10:56] <ph88_> hhee, for work i would use 16.04 LTS release
[10:56] <hhee> acicula, i downloaded .deb package from official site, from there https://www.mysql.com/products/workbench/
[10:56] <ph88_> hhee, maybe you can use package from 16.04 on 16.10  http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libpng12-0
[10:57] <hhee> ph88_, you are right, but maybe i can fix this. all another things work fine
[10:57] <mike_papa> it's 4.8.0-26 on Ubuntu vs 4.4.0-45 on xUbuntu. That may be the reason.
[10:57] <hhee> ph88_, thx i'll chech it
[10:57] <hhee> check
[10:57] <acicula> hhee: that is packaged for ubuntu 16.04
[10:58] <hhee> acicula, yeah... just now mention it..
[10:58] <ph88_> hhee, if you can't use the 16.04 repo, you can compile from source here ftp://ftp.simplesystems.org/pub/libpng/png/src/libpng12/
[10:59] <ph88_> ah workbench is for 16.04 and you try to install on 16.10 ?
[11:00] <acicula> idk if you can have libpng12 and libpng16 coexist
[11:00] <acicula> if these are binary compatible you could try to have the dependency ignored?
[11:02] <hhee> ph88_, i installed package from your link http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libpng12-0 and after that install mysql-workbench and all work fine now, thx :)
[11:03] <hhee> ph88_, yep. workench for 16.04, but now i installed it to 16.10
[11:04] <mike_papa> It wasn't kernel. I have forgot about nvidia drivers on xubuntu. After installing nvidia-340 it went down to same power consumption as ubuntu 16.10
[11:04] <hhee> all work fine. tnx a lot guys for your awesome support
[11:04] <T|R|U|M|P> He has won!
[11:05] <mike_papa> So nVidia drivers gives you ca. 20% less power consumption on idle comparing to nouveau. Proved scientifically! ;)
[11:07] <T|R|U|M|P> !ops He won
[11:07] <T|R|U|M|P> !ops | He has won!
[11:08] <hhee> btw, Trump has won?
[11:12] <ITLArYcLIMinaL> http://trump.news/   "Donald J. Trump will be the next President of the United States. The evil, demonic, mass murdering Hillary Clinton has been defeated.This is VICTORY for all Americans, even the uninformed, ignorant morons who voted for Hillary. "
[11:12] <allamoox> acicula:  How can I change themes then? I created the folder and called it .themes
[11:12] <djvdorp> Can we please ban politics from freenode !ops ?
[11:13] <ITLArYcLIMinaL> loser
[11:17] <T|R|U|M|P> TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS!
[11:17] <T|R|U|M|P> TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS!
[11:17] <acicula> !ops| T|R|U|M|P
[11:18] <ikevin> has i can see, T|R|U|M|P just make shit :(
[11:18] <ikevin> ty popey
[11:19] <acicula> allamoox: i am not sure, you can set themes for gnome using the graphical interface, why are you creating directories?
[11:25] <allamoox> acicula: I googled my question http://askubuntu.com/questions/648199/how-to-install-themes-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[11:25] <allamoox> So this is my I created the folder
[11:27] <acicula> ah ok. When you select themes can you select the folder where you downloaded the themes to?
[11:28] <allamoox> yes
[11:29] <allamoox> acicula: yes
[11:29] <allamoox> But now I installed the unity-tweak-tool
[11:29] <rory> I can't hit Enter on terminal programs that read input, like ssh. Instead it just says ^M like this http://i.imgur.com/T6lmrdb.png
[11:29] <allamoox> but still my theme can't be seen
[11:31] <acicula> allamoox: you are looking at the Theme tab?
[11:31] <allamoox> yes
[11:32] <acicula> allamoox: have you unpacked the theme file?
[11:32] <acicula> double click on the theme file so its opened and then drag that to the .themes folder
[11:33] <allamoox> acicula:   I put it in the theme folder
[11:34] <|T||R||U||M||P|> i am the lord of the interwebz
[11:34] <|T||R||U||M||P|> i declare a party
[11:34] <allamoox> apt-get update to be able to download the unity-tweak-tool.
[11:34] <allamoox> Command explanation, sudo bash - Is  to open a super user session - && apt-get update - to update the Advanced Packaging Tool -  && cd /home/allamoox -  Changing directory to my main folder - && mkkdir ./.themes -  to create the folder .themes - .
[11:34] <|T||R||U||M||P|> in honor of donald trump
[11:34] <|T||R||U||M||P|> the 45th president of the united states of america!
[11:34] <|T||R||U||M||P|> tbi
[11:34] <acicula> !ops | |T||R||U||M||P|
[11:34] <|T||R||U||M||P|> this nation
[11:34] <|T||R||U||M||P|> WILL
[11:34] <|T||R||U||M||P|> BE
[11:34] <|T||R||U||M||P|> GREAT
[11:34] <debkad> rory: may be this can help you http://askubuntu.com/questions/441744/pressing-enter-produces-m-instead-of-a-newline
[11:36] <allamoox> acicula: the file is extracted and I put it inside the folder call it theme
[11:36] <allamoox> .
[11:36] <acicula> hmm that is what google is telling me that should work :/
[11:38] <allamoox> acicula:  Does it work for you.
[11:39] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:41] <acicula> allamoox: imnot using the ubuntu desktop
[11:46] <donttrustem> guys I am trying to remove resolvconf from 16.04  Package 'resolvconf' is not installed, so not removed  Who can up with the stupid idea of overwriting the resolv.conf in the first place … bloody crazy
[11:46] <SummerRain> Im having problems adding #PATH to bash profile file
[11:47] <hateball> donttrustem: What are you actually trying to achieve?
[11:47] <donttrustem> split DNS
[11:47] <SummerRain> I add $PATH to the .bash_profile but it says it doesnt find the file/path
[11:47] <aeon-ltd> SummerRain: pastebin your bash
[11:47] <donttrustem> hateball: dnsmasq
[11:48] <Prutheus> Hello! I am on a dell xps 13. when i connect a monitor via docking d3100 (displaylink) or pluggable thunderbolt3_to_hdmi, i get a 1sec-freeze all 10 seconds. how can I fix this issue?
[11:48] <hateball> donttrustem: Something not working by adding your nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[11:48] <donttrustem> I have tried adding a tail file but it’s not working so I want to revert to the old way of doing things …  Automatic stuff sucks
[11:48] <SummerRain> aeon-ltd it basically have some login info and this in the end http://pastebin.com/R16zsvF8
[11:49] <umarzuki> evening folks
[11:49] <SummerRain> morning here
[11:50] <umarzuki> anyone using citadel groupware?
[11:50] <SummerRain> why adding PATH="$PATH:~/cuda/bin/" to the end of the bash file wont work ?
[11:50] <donttrustem> hateball:is all dhcp as there is a 1 to 1 nat
[11:50] <aeon-ltd> SummerRain: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/138504/setting-path-vs-exporting-path-in-bash-profile
[11:51] <donttrustem> hateball: can resolvconf be removed?
[11:51] <hateball> donttrustem: afaik you can still use dns-nameservers and dns-search even if the ip is dhcp
[11:51] <donttrustem> OK .. let me add them and see what happens
[11:51] <crystal> 2
[11:51] <SummerRain> aeon-ltd ?
[11:52] <lolman8776> I need help
[11:52] <Crystal2> I'm having a problem with my screen orientation
[11:52] <aeon-ltd> SummerRain: did you read it?
[11:52] <SummerRain> yes
[11:52] <aeon-ltd> did you try the export?
[11:52] <Crystal2> It seems to have 'flipped' the orientation of my accellerometer
[11:52] <SummerRain> you mean add export keyword before the path? i will try that now
[11:52] <lolman8776> Ubuntu sdk says this when I try to make a new kit: "error: Missing parent 'lxdbr0' for nic 'eth0' Try `lxc info --show-log desktop` for more info  ---Task exited with errors, please check the output---"
[11:52] <aeon-ltd> SummerRain: yeah
[11:53] <donttrustem> hateball: why have they added this in the first place … seems stupid to me
[11:53] <SummerRain> aeon-ltd failed http://pastebin.com/sh3Sq12t
[11:54] <hateball> donttrustem: so you can configure everything using systemd and network-manager I would guess
[11:54] <hateball> donttrustem: progress happens you know
[11:55] <dalput> I want to share a folder between local users, at this moment user1 has access to it. What do I do ? Make a usergroup, add both users there, chown and chmod the folder for the new group ? Will it affect any other shares ? Can a user be in different groups ?
[11:55] <donttrustem> LOL … that is not progress for a headless server.   Deskstop stuff
[11:57] <aeon-ltd> SummerRain: is include a folder? should it have / after it?
[11:57] <SummerRain> even with / after it, still fails
[11:58] <EriC^^> dalput: yeah a user can be in different groups and it may or may not affect other users shares
[11:59] <dalput> EriC^^: thanks, it's just the pictures folder I want to share between 2 users, guess nothing will happen.
[11:59] <EriC^^> dalput: yeah
[11:59] <allamoox> Any idea GUYS why the unity-tweak-tool doesn't show my downloaded theme?
[11:59] <allamoox> I explained above the the steps I did :(
[12:00] <aeon-ltd> SummerRain: tried no " ? , yeah i'm just guessing now
[12:01] <poison> hello
[12:01] <SummerRain> aeon-ltd Error: no such file "/home/andrelopes/cuda/include/:"
[12:01] <SummerRain> why does it add the ":"
[12:02] <SummerRain> Although im doing export CPATH=~/cuda/include/:$CPATH
[12:02] <acicula> allamoox: does the theme folder of the theme you are trying to install contain gtk-2.0/gtk-3.0 folders?
[12:03] <allamoox> acicula: yes
[12:04] <allamoox> acicula: https://snag.gy/t57Tbz.jpg
[12:06] <acicula> that site doesnt work for me
[12:07] <titodrew> Hi guys, I need someone who has experience with vagrant/ubuntu to help with this if possible http://dpaste.com/2KK9QT5
[12:07] <allamoox> https://postimg.org/image/ye370tce3/
[12:07] <allamoox> acicula:  u can try this one
[12:07] <acicula> that works
[12:07] <allamoox> I will try to copy the theme to /usr/share/themes
[12:07] <acicula> allamoox: that structure looks in order
[12:08] <aeon-ltd> SummerRain: what does the cuda directory look like? so far i'm like 90% the bash syntax is correct
[12:08] <SummerRain> aeon-ltd solved like this :
[12:08] <allamoox> acicula:  So :)
[12:08] <SummerRain> aeon-ltd http://pastebin.com/HEVjVy4K
[12:08] <allamoox> I even copied the theme folder to /usr/share/theme
[12:08] <aeon-ltd> SummerRain: it works?
[12:08] <acicula> allamoox: still nada :/
[12:08] <SummerRain> aeon-ltd seem it does
[12:08] <acicula> ?
[12:09] <allamoox> but still I can't activate the themes
[12:09] <aeon-ltd> SummerRain: congrats, sorry if i delayed the solution
[12:09] <SummerRain> aeon-ltd i just wanted to understand why it didnt work before but this new way, it does
[12:09] <acicula> allamoox: oh wait
[12:10] <acicula> move the Aurora folder up one
[12:10] <acicula> and remove the aurora-3.16 folder
[12:10] <titodrew> anyone got experience with vagrant?
[12:10] <SummerRain> Is it possible to use echo to print a coloured text?
[12:10] <titodrew> Please I could do with some help...
[12:11] <acicula> SummerRain: yeah you can use colors on the console
[12:11] <acicula> titodrew: ask your question, if anyone knows they will answer. (i've never used vagrant)
[12:12] <allamoox> acicula:  https://postimg.org/image/3ubl6wu0d/
[12:12] <allamoox> let me reboot
[12:12] <acicula> allamoox: dont need to reboot
[12:12] <allamoox> ok
[12:12] <acicula> should work directly, or just restart x
[12:13] <acicula> ie logout log back in more or less
[12:13] <evga> Hi, since a couple days my ubuntu 16.04 machine has a strange problem.. the CD-ROM is ejected randomly ... what could it be ?
[12:13] <acicula> evga: does this happen when there is a cd in the drive?
[12:13] <evga> acicula: no, the drive is empty
[12:13] <allamoox> acicula:  https://postimg.org/image/if9wkuxtp/
[12:13] <allamoox> Still it doesn't show up
[12:14] <acicula> well poop, i really thought that could be it
[12:15] <titodrew> ˜I am currently having a problem trying to work with scrapy-cluster for testing/learning purposes. When I run vagrant up I get this error http://dpaste.com/2KK9QT5
[12:15] <aeon-ltd> allamoox: have you tried putting it in the theme folder in your home directory, the hidden dotfolder one
[12:15] <TJ-> SummerRain: 'echo' uses the '-e' switch to enable escape control codes (for colors). E.g. for green text try: echo -e "\033[01;32m hello \033[00m"
[12:15] <SummerRain> TJ- it worked!
[12:15] <SummerRain> thank you guys :)
[12:15] <allamoox> aeon-ltd:  Yes this is what Im trying to do...
[12:15] <titodrew> I have the prequisites installed from their github page https://github.com/istresearch/scrapy-cluster
[12:16] <aeon-ltd> allamoox: show hidden files and folders in your home
[12:16] <acicula> allamoox: the files are owned by your user and writeable?
[12:16] <SummerRain> aeon-ltd thanks for the helP!
[12:16] <titodrew> but running "vagrant up" gives the error pasted in the dpaste link above.
[12:16] <SummerRain> cya guys
[12:17] <allamoox> aeon-ltd:  yes ls -la and I added . before the folder so its hidden one
[12:17] <allamoox> but it doesnt matter
[12:17] <allamoox> acicula:  yes,
[12:17] <allamoox> let me chmod for it
[12:18] <acicula> titodrew: it looks like it is trying to pull down a premade image that is not in that particular location?
[12:18] <aeon-ltd> .themes/ didn't work?
[12:18] <TJ-> titodrew: have you installed that 'box' (see https://vagrantcloud.com/ubuntu/boxes/trusty64 )
[12:18] <allamoox> aeon-ltd:  I dont understand what do you mean
[12:19] <aeon-ltd> allamoox: placing the theme in the directory .themes/
[12:19] <allamoox> aeon-ltd:  please scroll up
[12:19] <allamoox> Yes I did
[12:19] <allamoox> I extracted the theme
[12:19] <aeon-ltd> allamoox: so the path will look like ./themes/nameoftheme/variousthemefiles
[12:19] <allamoox> I put it in /home/user/.themes
[12:19] <allamoox> aeon-ltd:  yes Its
[12:19] <titodrew> acicula: my thoughts as well..
[12:20] <titodrew> TJ-: Do I need to install trusty64 in the VirtualBox?
[12:20] <aeon-ltd> allamoox: what application are you using to change the theme? close it and re launch it
[12:20] <TJ-> titodrew: vagrant will need it; that's what it is telling you
[12:20] <Crystal2> I have a problem with my screen orientation
[12:20] <allamoox> unity-tweaky-tool
[12:20] <Crystal2> Everything is upside down
[12:20] <allamoox> I rebooted the whole box aeon-ltd
[12:21] <aeon-ltd> allamoox: what theme is this?
[12:21] <allamoox> aeon-ltd: will it matter?
[12:22] <aeon-ltd> idk but i'm out of ideas
[12:22] <allamoox> it's whatever theme I download from http://www.ubuntuthemes.org
[12:22] <allamoox> wanna come teamviewe and have a look?
[12:23] <aeon-ltd> can i do it via browser only?
[12:23] <titodrew> TJ-: thanks for clarifying. Let me get the image and install that then.... I thought it was gonna do that automatically....
[12:24] <TJ-> Crystal2: identify the output device name using "xrandr -q" then do "xrandr --output <OUTPUT_NAME> --rotate normal"
[12:24] <Crystal2> Yes
[12:24] <Crystal2> TJ-, I've got that working
[12:24] <Crystal2> But everytime I close the lid of my laptop, or hold it differently, it changes again
[12:25] <allamoox> aeon-ltd:  how?
[12:25] <aeon-ltd> i've never used teamviewer before
[12:25] <Crystal2> I've got a "Flipbook"
[12:25] <TJ-> titodrew: I think 'vagrant init ubuntu/trusty64' is supposed to do that
[12:25] <allamoox> ok  , dont worry man
[12:25] <allamoox> any one got a clue please about this theme problem Hilight my name
[12:25] <allamoox> Thanks in advnace.
[12:25] <TJ-> Crystal2: that means it probably has an accelerometer and as you change orientation the software tracks it
[12:26] <aeon-ltd> allamoox: have you tried moving the aurora and dark aurora folders up one directory?
[12:26] <Crystal2> Yes, it does have one of those
[12:26] <Crystal2> BUt its malfunctioning
[12:26] <Crystal2> or at least, the driver is broken
[12:26] <Crystal2> I have no idea how to fix this :/
[12:26] <TJ-> Crystal2: ironic - I've spent the last few hours trying to *enable* the accelerometer in this PC to make it autorotate - fancy swapping PCs? :D
[12:26] <Crystal2> haha, perhaps ;)
[12:26] <Crystal2> I made the switch from Ubuntu to Ubuntu GNOME this morning
[12:27] <Crystal2> and I'm already regretting it, lol
[12:27] <titodrew> TJ-: but running that would require I delete the Vagrantfile that comes with scrapy-cluster
[12:27] <TJ-> Crystal2: is it because the accelerometer is extremely sensitive and slight movements are being exgerated?
[12:27] <Crystal2> no, even at "normal" orientation, the screen is flipped
[12:27] <Crystal2> the signal is "Inverted" it seems
[12:27] <boss_> i need help with Zenity. I need checklist, but how i add selection highlight with keyboard. Now i can't see where that selector is.
[12:27] <TJ-> titodrew: hmmm! in which case maybe re-reading the crapy stuff might give a clue. did they miss/assume this step I wonder?
[12:27] <Crystal2> Like, it works, just ... the wrong way
[12:28] <TJ-> Crystal2: then do "xrandr --output <OUTPUT-NAME> --rotate inverted"
[12:28] <TJ-> Crystal2: but if the software is controlling it that may just change it back again!
[12:28] <Crystal2> TJ-, does it help if I say, that at the login screen its messed up too?
[12:29] <acicula> INFO: task mt:17021 blocked for more than 120 seconds keeps popping up in my dmesg, followed by a systrace, the process hasnt crashed, mt is just doinga full tape erase which takes awhile. Is there any way to tweak this log behavior?
[12:29] <Crystal2> Setting it to inverted, makes it wrong
[12:29] <aeon-ltd> allamoox: did it work?
[12:29] <TJ-> Crystal2: does the orientation change if you rotate the PC whilst at the log-in screen?
[12:29] <Crystal2> Normal sets it to what I want
[12:29] <boss_> zenity --list shows that selector, but i want it to show also in checklist. Is it possible?
[12:29] <Crystal2> TJ-, let me check
[12:29] <TJ-> Crystal2: maybe the output from the accelerometer is being inverted so up is down and visa-versa
[12:30] <Crystal2> TJ-, yes, that sounds reasonable
[12:30] <acicula> for just this process that is, i can disable it entirely using a proc setting
[12:30] <Crystal2> Is there a way I can invert that ?
[12:30] <TJ-> Crystal2: in which case there *may* be a way to tell the kernel driver, or the iio-sensor-proxy program - to invert its interpretation of events
[12:30] <allamoox> aeon-ltd:  no
[12:31] <aeon-ltd> ...
[12:31] <TJ-> Crystal2: You first need to identify the accelerometer's kernel module, which could be slightly complicated
[12:31] <SummerRain> aeon-ltd hi are you still there?
[12:31] <aeon-ltd> SummerRain: yeah, i wanted to say i didn't do anything to resolve your problem
[12:31] <SummerRain> aeon-ltd i need your help again :)
[12:32] <TJ-> Crystal2: the quickest way I've found is to temporarily stop the system service, run it manually in debug mode, then re-enable system mode. That should give a report identifying the kernel device being used.
[12:32] <SummerRain> aeon-ltd im trying to install AMD LibM Library for Linux®. Built with GCC 4.7.2 to my linux but i dont know how and theres no info on their website
[12:32] <Crystal2> TJ-, what system device?
[12:32] <SummerRain> seems i have to install those libraries manually aeon-ltd
[12:32] <SummerRain> aeon-ltd http://developer.amd.com/tools-and-sdks/archive/compute/libm/
[12:33] <TJ-> Crystal2: if you want to try that then: "sudo systemctl stop iio-sensor-proxy.service; sudo G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all /usr/sbin/iio-sensor-proxy" copy the output, then press Ctrl+C to stop it, then "sudo systemctl start iio-sensor-proxy.service"
[12:33] <ingive> Hi I am trying to turn off a laptop display but I get 'could not get screen information' in display settings, any alternatives or solutions? Thanks!
[12:33] <ingive> For any help!
[12:34] <TJ-> ingive: are you identifying the display name using "xrandr -q" ?
[12:35] <Crystal2> Sure, one second!
[12:35] <aeon-ltd> SummerRain: the readme says you can just run the script
[12:36] <Crystal2> TJ-, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1c145b4ef8d39e911cff208c4d19fb30
[12:36] <docMika> Hi all
[12:36] <ingive> TJ-, I haven't tried that.
[12:36] <docMika> Is there anyone here who knows Btsync and could help me with that?
[12:37] <TJ-> Crystal2: I'd guess from that the device is a "SMO8500" so now to find the matching driver
[12:37] <ingive> TJ-, I have identified the display I want to turn off. What's next?
[12:37] <ingive> It's basically a laptop display, I want to turn it off for the external monitor.
[12:37] <TJ-> ingive: "xrandr --output <NAME> --off"
[12:38] <Crystal2> Name is the SMO8500 right?
[12:38] <Crystal2> or is that the eDP1 ?
[12:39] <Crystal2> oh nvm
[12:39] <TJ-> Crystal2: is that a Dell PC?
[12:39] <Crystal2> So how do I find the driver associated with that ?
[12:39] <Crystal2> No, its an Asus TP500L
[12:39] <Crystal2> "Flipbook"
[12:40] <TJ-> Crystal2: hmm; the only "SMO" drive I can find is "smo-8800" - but you must have one loaded so try "lsmod | grep smo"
[12:40] <SummerRain> aeon-ltd i can run the example but i need to refer the library
[12:40] <TJ-> Crystal2: mine's an Asus T300CHI - but has a different make of accelerometer (MPU)
[12:40] <Crystal2> crystal@watomat:~$ lsmod | grep smo
[12:40] <Crystal2> psmouse               126976  0
[12:41] <Crystal2> I don't think thats it ;)
[12:41] <TJ-> Crystal2: err no, so lets use a different approach then!
[12:42] <Crystal2> There's these three in the lsmod list
[12:42] <Crystal2> asus_nb_wmi            24576  0
[12:42] <Crystal2> asus_wmi               28672  1 asus_nb_wmi
[12:42] <Crystal2> sparse_keymap          16384  1 asus_wmi
[12:42] <TJ-> Crystal2: try looking in the sys-fs: "ls /sys/class/" and see if you see a directory node with a name that has "accel" in it
[12:43] <Crystal2> None
[12:43] <TJ-> Crystal2: as I currently don't have the device working I can't tell you where to find it
[12:43] <Crystal2> Hum...
[12:43] <Crystal2> Is there a way I can just disable the rotation completely?
[12:43] <TJ-> Crystal2: OK, how about you "pastebinit <(dmesg)"
[12:44] <TJ-> Crystal2: the easiest way would be to disable the driver, since much of this stuff is being done automatically by the core OS
[12:44] <Crystal2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23450807/
[12:45] <ingive> TJ-, thanks that worked. It seems a bit unstable is there any tools to monitor and see settings etc with nouveau?
[12:45] <ingive> I tried installing propietary graphics driver but it doesn't really function that well (can't log in, dropped back to login screen)
[12:45] <Prutheus> Hello! I am on a dell xps 13. when i connect a monitor via docking d3100 (displaylink) or pluggable thunderbolt3_to_hdmi, i get a 1sec-freeze all 10 seconds. how can I fix this issue?
[12:47] <TJ-> Crystal2: well strange! I see no mention of the accelerometer 'input' device, or of any i2c or iio device wither, but we know that PC has it
[12:48] <TJ-> ingive: you mean the output you disabled was glitching? 'xrandr' is the standard command line interface to the video controls
[12:48] <Crystal2> TJ-, it does have one, this laptop came pre-installed with windows, and it worked on that
[12:49] <Crystal2> TJ-, I had regular Ubuntu 16.04 installed on it, and the accellerometer was not working, but now that I installed Ubuntu GNOME, it suddenly "works"
[12:49] <TJ-> Crystal2: well we know that too because Linux is using it - we just can't identify which driver!
[12:49] <TJ-> Crystal2: yes, Gnome recently added core support for it
[12:51] <Crystal2> TJ-, any way you can disable this in GNOME specifically?
[12:51] <TJ-> Crystal2: I think you'll find the sysfs node at "ls -a /sys/devices/pci0000:00/INT3432:00/i2c-5/ "
[12:52] <TJ-> Crystal2: I don't know - don't touch Gnome at all
[12:52] <Crystal2> crystal@watomat:~$ ls -a /sys/devices/pci0000:00/INT3432:00/i2c-5/
[12:52] <Crystal2> .   delete_device  firmware_node  i2c-SMO8500:00  new_device  subsystem
[12:52] <Crystal2> ..  device         i2c-dev        name            power       uevent
[12:52] <titodrew> TJ-: I fixed it. There was a problem with the curl library that was embedded in Vagrant that gave the issue.
[12:52] <TJ-> Crystal2: maybe there's an additional option in the Settings applets somewhere? "Screen Display" or possibly "Appearance" ?
[12:53] <titodrew> TJ-: this fixed it for me https://github.com/mitchellh/vagrant/issues/7969
[12:53] <TJ-> titodrew: well done; not the kind of bug you'd expect
[12:53] <titodrew> Now its working as intended...
[12:53] <Crystal2> I've already searched all over it, done many google searches too
[12:53] <titodrew> TJ-: exactly. Thanks for your time. Highly appreciated.
[12:54] <TJ-> titodrew: that seems a bit brittle too if it depends on a particular version of something as fundamental as curl
[12:54] <Crystal2> Its in there though, that last command you mentioned, had the 8500 in there
[12:54] <docMika> anyone knows how long it takes to connect to a folder via btsync?
[12:54] <TJ-> Crystal2: right, so show me "pastebinit <( find /sys/devices/pci0000:00/INT3432:00/i2c-5/ )
[12:54] <Crystal2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23450837/
[12:55] <Crystal2> It's got 4 entries with the words accel
[12:55] <titodrew> TJ-: yeah, but good thing it falls back to the default curl on the base OS
[12:56] <Crystal2> nvm, a lot more ;)
[12:57] <TJ-> Crystal2: OK, so it's an IIC (i2c) device which explains why I couldn't find an obvious driver for it
[12:57] <Crystal2> Yeah, i2c is that 4-wire serial protocol right? I remember that from my embeded hardware class ;)
[12:58] <Mulf> Hello
[12:59] <TJ-> Crystal2: I've found the driver: "modinfo kxcjk-1013"
[12:59] <Mulf> Is there a way to check what wifi chip I currently have in my computer?
[12:59] <TJ-> Crystal2: so at worst you could 'blacklist' that module so it isn't loaded
[13:00] <ingive> TJ-, when I for example press the search thing in the bar the entire screen becomes blue except the bar
[13:00] <TJ-> Mulf: "lspci -nn"
[13:00] <SwedeMike> Mulf: lspci or lsusb might help.
[13:00] <ingive> TJ-, was thinking like nvidia-settings command but for nouveau?
[13:00] <Crystal2> description:    KXCJK1013 accelerometer driver
[13:00] <Crystal2> Yes you found it.
[13:00] <TJ-> ingive: that sounds like the Nouveau driver doesn't fully support the GPU (yet)
[13:00] <TJ-> Crystal2: best option would be to explore/ask Gnome (support) how to disable its use of the accelerometer
[13:02] <TJ-> Crystal2: I think there's a Gnome IRC channel here on Freenode which may help there
[13:02] <ingive> TJ-, it's an old laptop
[13:02] <Crystal2> TJ-, for now though, what do I have to add to my blacklist file to disable it?
[13:03] <Mulf> TJ-: Thanks
[13:05] <Crystal2> TJ-, I've just added it to the blacklist file, I'm rebooting now
[13:05] <TJ-> Crystal2: "echo blacklist kxcjk-1013 | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-kxcjk-1013.conf" should do it for reboots. "sudo modprobe -r kxcjk-1013" now might do it
[13:08] <Crystal2> TJ-, that didn't fix it :3
[13:10] <SummerRain> Is it possible to make linux terminal always execute a command before opening? Like.. "source private/project/virtualenv-15.0.3/myVE/bin/activate" ???
[13:10] <ioria> .bashrc
[13:11] <SummerRain> bashrc or .bash_profile ?
[13:11] <ioria> i use .bashrc ..
[13:12] <docMika> No one to help me with btsync? :)
[13:12] <TJ-> docMika: is that Bluetooth Sync?
[13:12] <docMika> tj nope, it's bittorrent sync
[13:12] <SummerRain> ioria ty it worked on profile :)
[13:13] <TJ-> docMika: ahh; not what I was thinking at all
[13:13] <docMika> TJ I'm trying to get the image of raspbian with jasper and that's the only place I found it, but that soft is ... pita.
[13:13] <TJ-> docMika: I generally use Transmission client
[13:14] <TJ-> docMika: it has a CLI interface as well as a GUI
[13:14] <docMika> I've been on ubuntu for three days.
[13:16] <v7> How to install this damn Flash Player in Opera ?!
[13:16] <v7> sudo apt install flashplugin-installer doesn't work
[13:18] <ioria> v7 i don't use opera but i think it uses pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[13:18] <ingive> TJ, what difference does it make to use an older version of ubuntu and newer one with older hardware?
[13:18] <ingive> Thanks for your help btw.
[13:20] <TJ-> ingive: well, generally, more recent software will be more capable - for the kernel and video drivers that usually translates as less bugs and more complete functionality. It can sometimes cause regressions though
[13:20] <v7> ioria: it throws me an error: mv: cannot stat 'unpackchrome/opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so': No such file or directory
[13:20] <jophish> hi all
[13:21] <jophish> I'm trying to install ubuntu server, however the iso doesn't have the driver for my network card and I get "no network interfaces detected"
[13:21] <xXEoflaOEXx> Hi
[13:21] <jophish> lspci shows the name of the interface
[13:21] <jophish> Is it possible to download a driver and stick it on the usb disk I'm booting from?
[13:22] <ioria> v7  16.10 ?
[13:22] <TJ-> jophish: double-check if lspci shows a driver for that device: "lspci -nnk"
[13:22] <MrHall> Hello
[13:22] <jophish> TJ-: oh, it's iwlwifi
[13:23] <jophish> I wonder why the installer didn't find it
[13:23] <TJ-> jophish: using the PCI Vendor:Device ID (the [XXXX:YYYY] at the end of the device's description will help find the correct driver
[13:23] <jophish> ioria: 16.10 server
[13:23] <hateball> that should already be in the kernel
[13:23] <TJ-> jophish: then I'd guess your issue isn't the driver but a missing firmware file. Do "modprobe -F firmware iwlwifi" and cross-match the firmware model IDs that shows with that lspci output
[13:24] <ioria> v7   what version of ubuntu ?
[13:24] <v7> 16.04
[13:24] <TJ-> jophish: typo! "modinfo -F firmware iwlwifi" !!
[13:24] <jost> Hi! I installed Cuda 8 from Nvidia, now I'm stuck at 640x480 resolution... I'm on XUbuntu 16.04. Synaptic shows that nouveau drivers are used, but I can not change them to use the Nvidia drivers again. Can I somehow reverse that change? I've already tried to uninstall Cuda, tried to reinstall the kernel, and some more stuff.
[13:24] <ioria> v7   try adobe-flashplugin   after enabling Canonical  in Software Sources
[13:25] <MrHall> someone know a open source proyect to help? i m new programer
[13:25] <MrHall> or open source proyects channel
[13:25] <jophish> TJ-: there doesn't seem to be a match
[13:25] <jophish> oh
[13:25] <jophish> there is
[13:25] <TJ-> jophish: can you show the "lspci -nn" results in a pastebin?
[13:26] <v7> MrHall: https://github.com/farbrausch/fr_public
[13:26] <jophish> TJ-: not easily without network access :)
[13:26] <TJ-> jophish: I've been working with a firmware loading bug for the iwlwifi 7265D this morning so we might have similar issues
[13:26] <TJ-> jophish: ok, just tell me the [XXXX:YYYY] of the device from the lspci output
[13:27] <jophish> TJ-: 8086:08b1
[13:27] <jophish> Intel 7260
[13:27] <TJ-> jophish: give me a few minutes to cross check
[13:27] <jophish> thanks for the help TJ-
[13:27] <jophish> fwiw, this works fine with the ubuntu desktop iso
[13:28] <MrHall> v7 i only know java, can i help ? :)
[13:28] <TJ-> jophish: what does "modinfo -F firmware iwlwifi | grep 7260" show ?
[13:28] <TJ-> jophish: maybe you see "iwlwifi-7260-17.ucode" there ?
[13:28] <jophish> TJ-: yes, that's there
[13:28] <TJ-> jophish: so you'd need to cross-check if that file is in "ls /lib/firmware/iwl*7260*"
[13:29] <v7> MrHall: You have asked for some open project ... so I gave it to it
[13:29] <jophish> TJ-: it's not there, however 7260-16 is
[13:30] <TJ-> jophish: OK, well, that ought not be an issue since the driver asks for all versions of the firmware that it knows of, so if you do "dmesg | grep iwlwifi" you should a bunch of messages about the files it tried
[13:32] <TJ-> jophish: now, if you're hitting the bug I'm working on, its that at early boot-time the firmware file fails to load but later it will load if you "modprobe -r iwlwifi && modprobe iwlwifi"
[13:32] <Creased> Hey! Can you help me? https://thepasteb.in/p/LghN0goZPYQTZ
[13:32] <jophish> TJ-: enabling device 0000->0002; direct firmware load for 7260-17 failed with -2; loaded firmware 16.242414.0 op_mode iwlmvm; failed to load iwlmvm (error 256) Is dynamic loading enabled?
[13:32] <jophish> TJ-: I'll try that
[13:33] <TJ-> jophish: OK, if it using iwlmvm then you need to do "modprobe -r iwlmvm && modprobe iwlmvm"
[13:34] <jophish> TJ-: modprobe is unable to find iwlmvm
[13:36] <TJ-> jophish: hmm, maybe that's the issue - is it there? "modinfo iwlmvm"
[13:36] <jophish> TJ-: not found
[13:36] <Creased> Does anybody can help me to write a short sed script? I've written my problem on a pastebin so as to don't flood the room... https://thepasteb.in/p/LghN0goZPYQTZ
[13:37] <jophish> odd that's not on the disk
[13:37] <TJ-> jophish: that's a definite bug if it is missing - needs reporting
[13:37] <TJ-> jophish: remind which version and architecture that installer is for?
[13:38] <jophish> TJ-: 16.10 server x86_64
[13:38] <TJ-> jophish: pop into #ubuntu-server see if anyone will take notice, but you should file a bug on this
[13:41] <hechong> whats this?
[13:42] <hechong> chat platform?
[13:43] <kostkon> hechong, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[13:43] <acicula> hechong :you mean irc?
[13:47] <myselfcaccone> Hello
[13:51] <treehug88> myselfcaccone if you have a question just go ahead and ask :)
[14:05] <Iguil> Has anyone experienced the "color" tab in printing preferences being blank, in addition to the "color managemeng" checkbox missing when adding a printer in the CUPS interface?
[14:06] <Iguil> We have an Ubuntu 16.04 VM with CUPS 2.1.3 here experiencing this, and I'm sort of lost as I actually can't find references to it by googling
[14:07] <treehug88> you might try ##cups
[14:12] <ducasse> Iguil: there will only be a color tab if the driver provides settings for it, aiui
[14:13] <TJ-> Iguil: that sounds like a printer GUI problem. any other corruption-type issues been noticed on that PC?
[14:13] <Iguil> not that I know of, the user had to leave now though, so I'm unable to test further right now
[14:14] <Iguil> ty for replies :)
[14:14] <TJ-> Iguil: I'd expect (a sanely programmed) GUI to ommit the tabs if the functionality wasn't available, but it could also be it doesn't do that and the selected CPUs driver isn't exposing colour functions
[14:19] <frankiee_> Hi! I'm trying to install Ubuntu Kylin 16.04.1 LTS (32-bit) via a bootable DVD ISO on a HP Pavillion dv1000 with an Intel Celeron 1.40GHz (480MB RAM).
[14:19] <frankiee_> But I'm getting: `Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU`. Anybody know why?
[14:21] <BluesKaj> 480mb Ram ia bit on the light side , perhaps lubuntu would suit your pc better, frankiee_
[14:21] <frankiee_> thanks BluesKaj
[14:21] <Southern_Gentlem> yeagh 1G most likely is needed for installes
[14:25] <frankiee_> lubuntu looks nice!
[14:26] <frankiee_> Take that as a compliment I fucking hate Ubuntu (and Linux in general), due to the pain and sufferings it has given me over the years. Only OpenBSD came to save me.
[14:26] <BluesKaj> ~langauge |frankiee_
[14:27] <BluesKaj> !langauge |frankiee_
[14:27] <daedeloth> https://ibin.co/31OTqexAFZBp.png
[14:27] <daedeloth> any clue what could be causing this? It seems to happen every time, after a while
[14:28] <TJ-> frankiee_: probably the Celeron is an i386 CPU without PAE support
[14:28] <frankiee_> TJ-: lubuntu doesn't require PAE right?
[14:28] <TJ-> frankiee_: all recent kernels require PAE, since 12.04 I think
[14:28] <frankiee_> TJ-: matter of fact, and silly of me, before the unable to boot message it says "WARNING: PAE disabled"
[14:29] <TJ-> frankiee_: aha! there is a kernel parameter that will try to use PAE even the CPU flags don't report it as being available (many older x86 had it but didn't advertise it)
[14:30] <frankiee_> cool
[14:30] <frankiee_> wait, what's with xubuntu?
[14:30] <TJ-> frankiee_: at the boot-manager you can edit the linux comamnd-line and add "forcepae"
[14:30] <frankiee_> some seem to recommend that over lubuntu, idk
[14:31] <TJ-> frankiee_: Xubuntu is a bit 'lighter' than Lubuntu in some circumstances (mainly due to different Gnome usage)
[14:32] <nat> #nick Natkeeran
[14:32] <frankiee_> i see is see
[14:33] <acicula> frankiee_: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_vitals&num=1
[14:34] <frankiee_> thanks acicula
[14:35] <frankiee_> http://lubuntu.net/ it is!!
[14:36] <BluesKaj> a memory test would be more significant
[14:38] <BluesKaj> lubuntu looks good memory wise there
[14:38] <acicula> that tracks memory use
[14:38] <acicula> http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Lubuntu_vs_Xubuntu there is also that
[14:38] <acicula> but i dont see where the numbers are based on
[14:38] <Creased> Does anyone can help me to write a short sed script? I've written my problem on a pastebin so as to don't flood the room... https://thepasteb.in/p/LghN0goZPYQTZ
[14:44] <Bish> how do i let a small vserver stop to die when the logs fill up it's little virtual hdd ?
[14:44] <Bish> it's using rsyslog and dies after a week bc the hdd is full
[14:46] <Bish> tl;dr i need something that limits log size
[14:52] <Creased> Bish: Maybe using inotify(7) ? https://linux.die.net/man/7/inotify
[14:53] <Creased> Bish: Or inotifywatch(1) https://linux.die.net/man/1/inotifywatch
[14:54] <acicula> Bish logrotate can set limits, compress and remove logs
[14:56] <acicula> so you can set shorter logrotations or even hard limits on log size
[14:56] <Bish> acicula: well, it's a docker container i thought that is irrelevant but is relevant
[14:57] <Bish> since logrotate is installed, but not running
[14:57] <Bish> so the question is offtopic here i guess
[14:59] <frankiee_> docker :((((((
[15:00] <junka> any Spanish people
[15:02] <v7> So .. has someone set up Flash Player with Opera ?
[15:05] <acicula> Bish: idk, if you run out of space because of logs you'll ahve to modify the docker image to either store less logs, generate less logs, or have larger disk?
[15:05] <acicula> !spanish
[15:05] <Bish> yeah that is funny, because of the single process policy of docker
[15:06] <Bish> how do i delete logs without logrotate
[15:06] <acicula> just blap /var/log
[15:06] <Bish> blap?
[15:06] <acicula> remove all logs
[15:06] <Bish> yeah well, i would have to do that every 5 days
[15:06] <shredah9> hello
[15:06] <Lornzer> heyo, any chance for getting glib >=2.44 for trusty anywhere? newest i can find is 2.42. am i out of luck?
[15:07] <acicula> you can put it in a cronjob, though its unclear to me why you cant modify the logrotate conf file to do it for you?
[15:08] <shredah9> have question how to tell what intel-graphics firmware installed ?
[15:08] <frankiee_> Hi! I'm trying to install lubuntu (32-bit) via a bootable DVD ISO on a HP Pavillion dv1000 with an Intel Celeron 1.40GHz (480MB RAM).
[15:08] <frankiee_> But I'm getting: WARNING! PAE disabled. Use the parameter 'forcepae' to enable at your own risk. This kernel requires the following features not enabled on the CPU: Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU. Anybody know why?
[15:09] <frankiee_> TJ-: Did you happen to have a trick up your sleeve or something?
[15:09] <acicula> Lornzer: the ubuntu desktop ppa has more recent glib builds for trusty. Thread lightly though with ppa's, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[15:09] <Southern_Gentlem> frankiee_,  put some more ram in that poor box
[15:09] <frankiee_> Southern_Gentlem: No go I'm afraid
[15:09] <junka> frankiee_: or try the 64 bit'
[15:09] <frankiee_> junka: Seriously, that might work?
[15:10] <acicula> frankiee_: no if its a 32bit cpu 64bit is not going to boot
[15:10] <junka> check your Cpu online
[15:10] <acicula> frankiee_: what cpu do you have exactly?
[15:10] <Lornzer> cheeras acicula
[15:10] <frankiee_> Damnit
[15:10] <frankiee_> acicula: Intel Celeron 1.40GHz
[15:10] <frankiee_> wait
[15:11] <ioria> pentium M
[15:11] <frankiee_> yup M
[15:11] <ioria> no pae
[15:11] <frankiee_> cheers ioria
[15:11] <acicula> http://ark.intel.com/products/27143/Intel-Celeron-M-Processor-360-1M-Cache-1_40-GHz-400-MHz-FSB
[15:11] <ioria> frankiee_, the last is lubuntu 12
[15:12] <frankiee_> ioria: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/lubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso ?
[15:12] <acicula> the sheet says 32bit pae?
[15:12] <frankiee_> will i be missing out on much?
[15:12] <ioria> .try
[15:13] <Southern_Gentlem> https://www.cnet.com/products/hp-pavilion-dv1000/specs/
[15:13] <Southern_Gentlem> depends on which model he got
[15:13] <ioria> frankiee_, then you do-release-upgrade
[15:14] <acicula> frankiee_: have you tried adding the forcepae boot option?
[15:14] <acicula> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE suggests that that should work
[15:18] <frankiee_> acicula: Forbidden: http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu-fake-pae/
[15:18] <frankiee_> Trying to download lubuntu 12 though?
[15:18] <frankiee_> ioria: do-release-upgrade, great
[15:18] <ioria> frankiee_, try the flag, maybe it'll work
[15:18] <acicula> frankiee_:
[15:18] <acicula> '?
[15:19] <TJ-> frankiee_: as soon as the ISO beings booting hold down Ctrl (or possibly Shift) the you can edit the linux kernel command line to include "forcepae" then boot linux with that additional parameter
[15:19] <DTH__> hi all
[15:22] <v7> Damn this trolls in #linux ...
[15:22] <v7> Hate them
[15:22] <frankiee_> TJ-: I'm just getting the standard menu
[15:22] <TJ-> frankiee_: the boot menu?
[15:23] <frankiee_> TJ-: probably, language selection etc.
[15:23] <TJ-> frankiee_: if it is the ISO booting using syslinux/isolinux you should be able to hold down a key at boot to stay in the boot menu (this is much earlier than language selection)
[15:24] <TJ-> frankiee_: usually I seem to recallt here's a graphical symbol drawn at the bottom of the screen that vaguely looks like a star inside a circle followed by a keyboard-looking rectangle!
[15:24] <frankiee_> I was pressing CTRL as well as SHIFT repeatedly during this earlier stage but nothing happened
[15:25] <TJ-> frankiee_: there are different keys depending on the age of the installer, BIOS or UEFI, and isolinux or GRUB !
[15:26] <frankiee_> ISOLINUX 6.03...
[15:26] <frankiee_> Then comes language selection
[15:26] <frankiee_> That's all I can do man
[15:26] <frankiee_> Let's try that lubuntu 12
[15:27] <TJ-> frankiee_: maybe it is at that point then! it should have a list of "install/check/boot from hard disk" with some advanced options along the bottom of the screen accessed by function keys
[15:28] <ioria> frankiee_, usually tab or 'e' on the  highlighted menu entry
[15:28] <ioria> frankiee_, (after the lan selection)
[15:31] <TJ-> ioria: that's for GRUB but with {sys,iso}linux its different - function keys along the bottom and whatever the right-most is, that's the one to add Advanced options to the kernel's command line
[15:32] <frankiee_> TJ-: what point? yeah there are advanced options at the bottom here in lubuntu 16 but do i use any of them?
[15:32] <frankiee_> ioria: Haven't got a LAN lol
[15:32] <ioria> TJ-  oky
[15:33] <ioria> frankiee_,  no internet ?
[15:33] <frankiee_> ioria: Nope
[15:33] <kamisama> Need help with a c program? which channel to go?
[15:33] <ioria> frankiee_,  what you have at hand ?
[15:34] <TJ-> frankiee_: aha! take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing_the_CD.27s_Default_Boot_Options
[15:34] <frankiee_> kamisama: probably ##c
[15:34] <kamisama> thanks, I will try that
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[15:35] <frankiee_> TJ-: so <F5> Add special boot parameters?
[15:35] <TJ-> frankie pressing F6 will show some options. PAE won't be there, but it'll also have written the kernel's command line just above and you can edit that test to add "forcepae" in there
[15:35] <frankiee_> oh sweet
[15:35] <TJ-> frankiee_: see the section just adter there titled "Changing the CD Boot Option Configuration Line"
[15:36] <frankiee_> TJ-: sorry but how to i escape the language section? nothing happens when I press F6
[15:36] <ioria> frankiee_,  why escape ?
[15:36] <frankiee_> sorry my bad
[15:37] <TJ-> frankiee_: if you're that far you're got too far. That web page shows a screenshot of the boot screen with the keyboard icon etc. and tells you to press *any* key whilst that is on-screen to get to the boot menu
[15:37] <frankiee_> So I add `Expert mode` before `Install Lubuntu` right?
[15:38] <TJ-> frankiee_: "As the CD boots, the user can gain access to the advanced page and its options by pressing any key when the small logo appears at the bottom of your screen"   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Ubuntu_CD_Advanced_Welcome_Page_Options
[15:39] <www3www3> FODHELP
[15:39] <tojoko> join #ubuntu-de
[15:39] <tojoko> sorry
[15:40] <frankiee_> I'm sorry
[15:40] <frankiee_> I'm just not getting any wiser
[15:41] <frankiee_> I'm at the boot menu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Ubuntu_CD_Advanced_Welcome_Page_Options but that's about it
[15:41] <destini> Is 16.10 still an evaluation version?
[15:41] <frankiee_> The lubuntu 12 CD should be ready by now though.
[15:41] <frankiee_> * DVD
[15:41] <destini> Or is properly released?
[15:41] <acicula> destini: released
[15:42] <destini> I'm currently using it
[15:42] <destini> Quite a good change being felt by me so far
[15:42] <destini> since the update
[15:42] <destini> hell yeah
[15:42] <mikubuntu> what's the max ram that anybody here is running? if you max out your ram, does that give you the ability to keep, for instance, lots more tabs open on your browser?
[15:43] <destini> I'm using 32 Gb
[15:43] <frankiee_> ioria: hahAAAAAAAAAAA!!
[15:43] <frankiee_> thank you man =)
[15:43] <Southern_Gentlem> 32G with 16 cores
[15:43] <frankiee_> lubuntu 12 is ON ROUTE !!
[15:43] <ioria> frankiee_,  ok
[15:43] <frankiee_> time to give this old work horse some new LIFE
[15:44] <frankiee_> i wish openbsd had a similar thing
[15:44] <frankiee_> freebsd has pcbsd but it looks like some old shit your grandma designed :P
[15:44] <Southern_Gentlem> running 5-6 vms and seeding some torrents
[15:44] <frankiee_> freebsd is years behind openbsd anyway
[15:44] <destini> VMWare VSphere
[15:44] <destini> Using Kali on it
[15:45] <frankiee_> man i used to hate ubuntu but this lubuntu thing has got my HEART, goodness gracious!
[15:45] <destini> With dedicated RAM of 16 Gb
[15:45] <ioria> frankiee_,  yeah
[15:48] <destini> Anyone interested in coming to my channel #fuckinhackerz ...................???
[15:48] <destini> Only hackerz........
[15:49] <acicula> mikubuntu: if chrome sucks too much memory you can use things like thegreatsuspender
[15:50] <acicula> or tabsuspender, whatever it is called
[15:50] <destini> You can browse even on the terminal... you do not need chrome for everything
[15:50] <destini> Terminal can also be used as a browser
[15:51] <destini> if and only if you know how to operate it
[15:51] <acicula> well true, but why stop there, all you truely need is netcat
[15:54] <nomius> Hi
[15:55] <designbybeck> was trying to install something via snap for the first time....I installed snap itself, but this is a 14.04 server and I get this: ZOE ERROR (from /usr/lib/snap/snap): error opening parameter file
[15:55] <designbybeck> ZOE library version 2006-07-28
[15:55] <designbybeck> it was rocket.chat I was trying to install
[15:56] <nomius> Is it there a way to create a mirror (and keep it updated against Ubuntu mirrors) of the packages I have installed in UBuntu 14 and 16?
[15:58] <nomius> I have two VMs, one running 14.04 and another one with 16.04 with a base system, and I would like to setup an internal repository to keep the "base system " updated based on my definition of base system, but I would like to avoid importing all the Ubuntu repository to create a mirror and only mirroring the specific packages of the "base system" I have created...
[15:59] <Southern_Gentlem> not really mirrors are all all or nothing
[16:00] <kicksled> nomius: look in to apt-cacher-ng, perhaps thats what you're after. setting up a mirror is all or nothing if I'm not mistaken
[16:00] <audioPhil> hey everyone, general question: Looking at repositories and packages I see that some are provided both in main and universe. why is that and what exactly does that mean supportwise?
[16:00] <nacc> !component | audioPhil
[16:00] <nacc> !components | audioPhil
[16:01] <mikubuntu> acicula: thx i'll check it out, still interested to know how important and what the limits are for RAM on a 64 bit hp laptop (running lubuntu 14.04).
[16:04] <audioPhil> nacc: been there and I don't really understand the wording. main says the software comes with security updates and universe says it is not guaranteed. what applies if I have a package in both of them at the same time? (see, e.g., nginx in trusty)
[16:04] <nacc> audioPhil: no package is in both for a release
[16:05] <nacc> audioPhil: nginx is in main in trusty
[16:05] <nacc> audioPhil: main is 'supported' by canonical's security team
[16:06] <SipriusPT_> hello guys, i am not receiving mail at my local server, right now i am using a dynamic IP with a DNS name with reverse DNS. I have also check if this IP was not blacklisted and it is in one from a big list. It is possible that my ISP IP provider is blocking any SMTP connection from my external server to my local server?
[16:06] <SipriusPT_> I already did telnet to my external IP to port 25 and it was connecting
[16:06] <audioPhil> nacc: that means I misinterpret this link? http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package_metas?exact_match=1&q=nginx From what it shows I suggested that the package is in both of them
[16:07] <ikonia> SipriusPT_: very probably
[16:07] <ikonia> SipriusPT_: do you see anything in your mail log
[16:07] <TJ-> nomius: you can use apt-cacher-ng as a proxy in the way you seem to be describing
[16:07] <ikonia> SipriusPT_: are mails attempting to be delivered, or just not hitting the server
[16:07] <guest-KUtB3n> hi
[16:07] <nacc> audioPhil: why are you using not packages.ubuntu.com
[16:07] <SipriusPT_> I have called to tech support and those guys didnt confirm my doubt
[16:08] <ikonia> SipriusPT_: how did you test the port was open
[16:08] <acicula> mikubuntu: well a bit more probably since binaries and such are a bigger
[16:08] <SipriusPT_> nop i have made a mailq | less
[16:08] <TJ-> SipriusPT_: did you external public test come from an external server, or were you trying it from your internal LAN?
[16:08] <ikonia> SipriusPT_: mailq is just what's in the queue
[16:08] <ikonia> SipriusPT_: thats not a valid test
[16:08] <SipriusPT_> wait i have test it with telnet
[16:08] <ikonia> SipriusPT_: from where ?
[16:08] <TJ-> SipriusPT_: from where?
[16:08] <mikubuntu> acicula: just installed greatsuspender i'll see if that helps
[16:09] <SipriusPT_> telnet <external IP> <port>
[16:09] <ikonia> SipriusPT_: from where
[16:09] <SipriusPT_> locally
[16:09] <ikonia> SipriusPT_: not a valid test
[16:09] <ikonia> SipriusPT_: what is the public IP
[16:10] <audioPhil> nacc: because that one just said "security" for nginx, which I could not relate to main or universe
[16:10] <SipriusPT_> 1 sec i will activate port forwarding
[16:10] <TJ-> SipriusPT_: "telnet 93.108.222.79" "Trying 93.108.222.79..." == no response
[16:12] <TJ-> SipriusPT_: most domestic ISPs default-block incoming port 25. Some will open it once you've got the server configured and they can test it isn't an open relay, but that is mostly for business customers.
[16:12] <ikonia> I'd beg the question why are you hosting this on a home dsl connect, and why are you hosting it at all if you're not really aware of the basics
[16:13] <SipriusPT_> yes this is for an office TJ-
[16:13] <SipriusPT_> ikonia: http://prntscr.com/d55bnh
[16:13] <SipriusPT_> if you need the dns name i can provide to you in pm
[16:13] <ikonia> SipriusPT_: do you understand how silly what you've just done is
[16:13] <ikonia> you've just obscured the data of somethign that is supposed to be public
[16:14] <SipriusPT_> i will send it to you in pm
[16:14] <SipriusPT_> 1 sec
[16:14] <ikonia> no
[16:14] <ikonia> just put it in the channel
[16:14] <ikonia> and you're testing it from the local box....
[16:14] <ikonia> that is not a valid test
[16:14] <ikonia> you should not be trying to run this mail server - you don't understand enough of the basics
[16:14] <SipriusPT_> ok
[16:14] <SipriusPT_> i am creating a fresh one
[16:14] <ikonia> a fresh what ?
[16:15] <SipriusPT_> mail server
[16:15] <tralala> join #fluxbuntu
[16:15] <ikonia> yes, but you don't know how to run one
[16:15] <ikonia> so you should not be doing it
[16:15] <tralala> sorry
[16:15] <SipriusPT_> i am learning
[16:15] <ikonia> the world doesn't need another badly configured mail server, and the buiness you are doing this for does not need a broken mail host that is blacklisted
[16:16] <SipriusPT_> i am not creating an open relay if it is that you are asking
[16:16] <ikonia> no it's not
[16:16] <TJ-> SipriusPT_: if the IP is already on a blacklist (possibly as part of the ISP's CPE block(s) ) then it'll be hit and miss as to which MXs will deliver to it anyhow
[16:17] <ikonia> basically - you should not be doing this
[16:18] <TJ-> SipriusPT_: at the least run it from a virtual machine in a data centre, but above all get it installed and managed by someone that is experienced - otherewise, rent the service from a dedicated virtual mail service
[16:19] <chibill_> I have a small problem. I am running Ubuntu 16 (Not sure the exact version right now) and I wanted to install a thrid party nivida driver so I could actually use my graphics card. But following a tutorial on how to do so has gotten me no where.
[16:19] <nacc> audioPhil: sorry, i'm on the phone
[16:19] <ikonia> chibill_: you need to know the version for sure
[16:19] <ikonia> thats a key basic
[16:19] <TJ-> chibill_: "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall!
[16:20] <BluesKaj> chibill_, check out additional drivers for the recommended one
[16:21] <chibill_> BluesKaj: I tried. They wont install. (Select one and it just goes back to default.)
[16:22] <chibill_> Trying to get the actual version number
[16:22] <BluesKaj> chibill_, then try TJ- 's suggestion
[16:22] <TJ-> chibill_: "lsb_release -a" or "cat /etc/issue"
[16:22] <BluesKaj> chibill_, lsb_release -a in the terminal
[16:22] <audioPhil> nacc: no worries. I'm just really trying to wrap my head around this because I need to understand ubuntu packaging in order to make security recommendations
[16:24] <chibill_> lib32gcc1 : Depends: gcc-6-base (= 6.0.1-0ubuntu1) but 6.2.0-10 is to be installed
[16:24] <chibill_> lib32gcc1 : Depends: gcc-6-base (= 6.0.1-0ubuntu1) but 6.2.0-10 is to be installed
[16:24] <chibill_> :(
[16:24] <chibill_> stupid keyboard...
[16:25] <chibill_> BluesKaj:  the driver depends on lib32gcc1 which can't be installed because my gcc-6-base is too new.
[16:25] <nacc> audioPhil: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nginx
[16:25] <chibill_> I have Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[16:25] <chibill_> Description: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[16:25] <chibill_> Release: 16.04
[16:25] <chibill_> Codename: xenial
[16:25] <nacc> audioPhil: you can see that in precise it says [universe]
[16:26] <nacc> audioPhil: in all later releases it doesn't, which implicitly is [main]
[16:26] <nacc> audioPhil: you can also use rmadison for this
[16:26] <chibill_> So yeah.. Not sure whats up with that...
[16:28] <datamaan> Hey. I've got a am64 install of  ubuntu 16.04 and would like to install libgps-dev and libgps-dev:i386 in parallel. this works without problems for all other libs I tried, but somehow the both versions of libgps-dev conflict and don't allow me to install them both at the same time.
[16:28] <datamaan> is there a special reason for this?
[16:29] <BluesKaj> n chibill_ me neither
[16:32] <TJ-> datamaan: probably because the -dev packages both contain the same path/path and that file may have different content
[16:32] <OerHeks> chibill_, and what nvidia card is this?
[16:32] <TJ-> datamaan: during the migration to multi-arch some years ago most of that was resolved but there are some lingering packages
[16:32] <chibill_> A gtx960M
[16:33] <SipriusPT_> TJ- and ikonia: thanks for the advises, i have tested from an outside pc and it is open that port
[16:33] <chibill_> I wish I knew why the drivers are failing to even install. (Like I get dependency problems.)
[16:33] <audioPhil> nacc: thx, the implicit part was what I didn't get
[16:33] <audioPhil> and rmadison output really helps a lot
[16:34] <TJ-> chibill_:  "lib32gcc1 : Depends: gcc-6-base (= 6.0.1-0ubuntu1) but 6.2.0-10 is to be installed" suggests that the apt repository config is for different versions
[16:35] <chibill_> Yeah I know. But I can't down grade it. (Tried apt-get says it break stuff and stops)
[16:35] <mjh75> SipriusPT_: I have to echo the comments of the others, do not make another mail server if you have any other choice
[16:36] <mjh75> But if you are going to make very sure that it is not an open relay, make sure you keep up to date on the patches etc.
[16:36] <TJ-> chibill_: well the installed system appears to be 16.04 but APT has the 16.10 repos configured
[16:37] <TJ-> chibill_: did you once try to do a "do-release-upgrade" on there which was aborted?
[16:37] <chibill_> No[e
[16:37] <chibill_> nope. This is a clean install. Only thing done was to get Chrome installed.
[16:37] <TJ-> chibill_: show us "pastebinit <( cat /etc/apt/sources.list )"
[16:38] <TJ-> chibill_: gcc-6-base 6.2.0-10 is from 16.10 - which means apt is looking at the 16.10 Yakety repos
[16:38] <SipriusPT_> mjh75: this is a middle mail server to link external mail accounts with local mail accounts
[16:39] <ikonia> SipriusPT_: that makes no difference
[16:39] <ikonia> you are lacking the basic understanding to do this, and you are doing a bad implementation and should not be doing it
[16:39] <mjh75> SipriusPT_: That is a new term for me.....If is speaks SMTP it is a mail server
[16:39] <DeMiNe0> Has anyone used both Conjure-up and Autopilot for deploying openstack on ubuntu? Trying to get an overview of whats different between the two. Looks like conjure up is meant for more than just openstack, and works on 16.04. Just can't figure out if there is anything missing in conjure-up thats available on autopilot. Autopilot seems to be the "stable" openstack for ubuntu.
[16:39] <TJ-> SipriusPT_: do you mean a mail-relay, as in some other SMTP server is advertised in the domain's MX records but that server forwards to this one you're creating?
[16:40] <chibill_> http://pastebin.com/SkapJAGm Note this is my first time actaully touching the sources.list file on this system.
[16:40] <antonin> Hello ! I'm new to ubuntu (installed it yesterday) and i'm having trouble installing photoshop (need it to work). I'm following the step by step guide from the ubuntu resources wiki but the installation crashes during the installer preparation. Does anyone know what to do ?
[16:41] <ikonia> photoshop is a windows program
[16:41] <ikonia> use the gimp instead
[16:41] <s7urmi> hello, i'd like to install cinnamon on my ubuntu 16.04 but im not sure whick package i should install. cinnamon, cinnamon-desktop or cinnamon-desktop-environment? What are the differences?
[16:41] <ikonia> s7urmi: one is a meta package for the others
[16:41] <ikonia> cinnamon-desktop should be enough
[16:41] <TJ-> chibill_: that looks OK, phew! now show us "pastebinit <( apt-cache policy gcc-6-base )"
[16:42] <s7urmi> ikonia: ok, thank you!
[16:42] <SipriusPT_> TJ- : yes a mail relay, i am sending mail through and external server with SMTP auth
[16:42] <antonin> ikonia : is it equivalent to photoshop ? I mean, i need to edit pages and my boss wants me to use PS cs6
[16:42] <mjh75> Incoming or outgoing?
[16:42] <ikonia> antonin: it's an advanced image processing app
[16:42] <SipriusPT_> TJ- : yes i have add a mx record for this. Outgoing
[16:42] <ikonia> antonin: it's very well respected
[16:42] <SipriusPT_> mjh75: outgoing
[16:42] <TJ-> SipriusPT_: so the only actual external SMTP server that will (be able to) deliver to your new mail server will be another host defined as the domain's MX record?
[16:42] <antonin> ikonia : i'll install it then, thanks ;)
[16:42] <s7urmi> ikonia: i just noticed it's cinnamon, cinnamon-data or cinnamon-desktop-environment so i shoud go for the -desktop-environment or?
[16:43] <ikonia> s7urmi: cinnamon-desktop
[16:43] <chibill_> http://pastebin.com/WHnfs0Yg Soemthing looks fishy in that to me...
[16:43] <mjh75> SipriusPT_: Okay, then that makes life a lot easier (read safer)
[16:43] <ikonia> s7urmi: it should be called that
[16:43] <chibill_> I am 99% sure that shows the problem
[16:43] <ikonia> chibill_: what problem is it showing
[16:44] <mjh75> SipriusPT_: You should not need to open any incoming ports. Install postfix, configured the relayhost and port. Set it up to accept SMTP connections from the LAN and sort through the relay stuff.
[16:44] <TJ-> chibill_: looks like you installed the 6.2.0-10 version manually
[16:44] <DammitJim> can you guys recommend a simple tutorial on how to resize LVM parititions?
[16:44] <s7urmi> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23451609/
[16:44] <DammitJim> I need to shrink a partition and give that free space to another
[16:44] <ikonia> DammitJim: a partition or a locical volume
[16:45] <praxilene> hi!
[16:45] <TJ-> chibill_: so either the system has had the Yakety 16.10 repos defined in apt, and they're now gone, or a do-release-upgrade aborted, or something else installed that 6.2.0-10 version manually
[16:45] <chibill_> But the thing is I never did... Any way to possible downgrade it?
[16:45] <DammitJim> LVM, sorry
[16:45] <SipriusPT_> TJ- : yes the external server will accept and deliver mail through a mx record of my server
[16:45] <chibill_> or is that not possible.
[16:45] <ikonia> DammitJim: so what are you actually trying to do clearly
[16:45] <ikonia> s7urmi: apt-cache search cinnamon
[16:45] <SipriusPT_> mjh75: for a moment i was wondering if i was building here some nukes in the garage xD
[16:46] <mjh75> SipriusPT_: That sound like incoming.....
[16:46] <DammitJim> ikonia, let me dig the details out
[16:46] <praxilene> quel est le plus stable: ubuntu ou debian, d'après vous?
[16:46] <TJ-> chibill_: my best bet is you're installed something else that manually pulled in its own GCC base packages - maybe some other, more up-to-date, GNU language compiler ?
[16:47] <SipriusPT_> mjh75: ah yes, that is what i am trying to solve now. I am already able to send mails from multi local accounts to multi external accounts with postfix
[16:47] <darry> .it
[16:48] <ikonia> SipriusPT_: you understand that what you've just said contradicts what you initially said
[16:48] <mjh75> SipriusPT_: So you have outgoing working....now you want incoming?
[16:48] <s7urmi> ikonia: https://thepasteb.in/p/Y6hkKv1yrNmH7
[16:48] <ikonia> SipriusPT_: you said you needed "incoming" mail - and it wasn't getting deliered
[16:48] <chibill_> Okay. Still anyway I can fix that so I can use my grahpics card... (Currently have to use nomodeset to even boot.)
[16:48] <ikonia> SipriusPT_: now you say it's just an outgoing smtp relay
[16:48] <TJ-> SipriusPT_: I think you may have misunderstood. I'm describing a scenario where your new mail server is *NOT* in the domain MX record, but another externally managed server is. That external server would be internally configured to deliver all mail for your domain to an IP address you specify (where your new mail server would be listening and only accept connections from that single external server)
[16:48] <SipriusPT_> mjh75 and ikonia: sorry you are typing to fast lol
[16:48] <ikonia> SipriusPT_: you should not be doing this - sorry to be harsh, but you don't get it
[16:49] <TJ-> chibill_: well, if the core GCC file versions have somehow been updated, rolling back to the expected 16.04 packages could severely break things, especially as it is not clear how it got into that state
[16:49] <ikonia> s7urmi: cinnamon-desktop-environment should do it
[16:49] <ikonia> there is miss-truth being told here
[16:49] <ikonia> "it's a clean install"
[16:49] <ikonia> clearly it's not
[16:49] <DammitJim> I have a logical volume that I want to shrink from 14GB to 4GB
[16:49] <ikonia> re-install
[16:49] <s7urmi> ikonia: ok, thank you and sorry for keeping u so busy ;D
[16:49] <DammitJim> that's first step
[16:49] <DammitJim> can I assign the free space to another logical volume?
[16:49] <ikonia> DammitJim: ok, so man lvreduce
[16:49] <DammitJim> I think they are both in the same volume group
[16:50] <DammitJim> ok, thanks!
[16:50] <Tin_man> i was wondering, if i install my old ubuntu mate Beta 16.04, will it update to the non beta (it will save me downloading the new iso)
[16:50] <ikonia> DammitJim: once you reduce the volume you can re-use the pe
[16:50] <iparhan> hello
[16:50] <DammitJim> pe?
[16:50] <ikonia> physical extent
[16:50] <TJ-> Tin_man: yes, standard "apt-get dist-upgrade" or "apt full-upgrade"
[16:50] <chibill_> Also jsut did some digging apparently i have  libgcc1 installed which is what depends on that version of gcc-6-base
[16:50] <Tin_man> ok thanks
[16:50] <iparhan> how i can install radio in unbuntu 16.04
[16:50] <iparhan> ?
[16:50] <iparhan> can any body tell me  ?
[16:51] <donofrio> iparhan, radio?  what freq?
[16:51] <iparhan> freq  ?
[16:51] <iparhan> sorry
[16:51] <ikonia> iparhan: what is your end goal
[16:51] <donofrio> iparhan, you said radio?
[16:51] <DammitJim> ikonia, can I do this on the fly or do I need to reboot the server?
[16:51] <ikonia> donofrio: can you explain why the frequency matters to that question
[16:52] <iparhan> yeah
[16:52] <ikonia> DammitJim: on the fly, the man page explains it and how to manage the file system on the volume
[16:52] <donofrio> ikonia, I dunno I wanted to know what he wanted to listen to
[16:52] <ikonia> donofrio: ok - so that doens't matter
[16:52] <ikonia> donofrio: please try to provide help
[16:52] <donofrio> ikonia, I thought I was - geesh
[16:52] <iparhan>  i wanna listen fox news ,BBC  in my ubuntu
[16:52] <iparhan> this is my end goal
[16:52] <donofrio> iparhan, apt-get install kodi
[16:52] <iparhan> kodi  ?
[16:52] <chibill_> well I think I need to reinstall to fix my problem... (I can't downgrade libgcc1 which is what somehow bumped my gcc-6-base)
[16:52] <ikonia> iparhan: as in the radio station ?
[16:53] <iparhan> is thta a radio ?
[16:53] <TJ-> chibill_: as best as I can figure out that 6.2.0-10 came from Debian unstable (sid)
[16:53] <ikonia> iparhan: so unless you have an RF transmitter in your machine you can't listen to radio, you CAN liten to internet radio stations
[16:53] <iparhan> yeah
[16:53] <donofrio> it's got addons that will allow to listen but others may know better solution
[16:53] <iparhan> a radio station
[16:53] <mjh75> ikonia: RF receiver :)
[16:53] <chibill_> wtf.... how did a debain package get on my install of ubuntu....
[16:54] <DammitJim> To be honest, I read the man page and even though I understand some stuff, it's a bunch of scattered information
[16:54] <DammitJim> is there an ubuntu recommended tutorial?
[16:54] <iparhan> o got itr
[16:54] <iparhan> thks
[16:54] <ikonia> DammitJim: no
[16:54] <ikonia> DammitJim: what part is not clear ?
[16:54] <donofrio> iparhan, then install fusion repo and it will have addon's that have radio for you
[16:54] <iparhan> im installing kodi
[16:55] <ikonia> donofrio: fusion ?
[16:55] <ikonia> donofrio: what is the fusion repo ?
[16:55] <DammitJim> that one then needs to use lvcreate to safely shrink the snapshot of the logical volume
[16:55] <ikonia> DammitJim: lvcreate will not reduce a snapshot
[16:55] <datamaan> TJ-: ok. I think I'll file a bug-report then
[16:55] <ikonia> DammitJim: lvreduce as I told you will
[16:56] <DammitJim> You  should  therefore  ensure  that  any  filesystem  on the volume is
[16:56] <DammitJim>        resized before running lvreduce so that the  extents  that  are  to  be
[16:56] <DammitJim>        removed are not in use
[16:56] <donofrio> iparhan, https://www.tvaddons.ag/install-addons-kodi/ when finished
[16:56] <iparhan> o  thanks donofrio
[16:56] <ikonia> DammitJim: right, and thats why I told you the man page will explain how to manage the file system
[16:56] <ikonia> DammitJim: so you have to reduce the file system before you can reduce the volume under it
[16:56] <donofrio> iparhan, config wizard will do all you need
[16:56] <DammitJim> am I reducing the file system with lvreduce?
[16:56] <donofrio> iparhan, config wizard will do all you need
[16:56] <ikonia> DammitJim: no, not unless you use the right flags
[16:57] <ikonia> DammitJim: which is in the man page
[16:57] <DammitJim> or do I need to use the switch --resizefs
[16:57] <ikonia> DammitJim: correct, -r / --resizefs
[16:57] <iparhan> donofrio  how i can add some files to Kodi ?
[16:58] <donofrio> iparhan, hu?
[16:58] <ikonia> donofrio: what is the fusion repo ?
[16:58] <donofrio> iparhan, just follow steps that are in that fusion url I posted
[16:58] <ikonia> donofrio: what is the fusion repo ?
[16:58] <donofrio> ikonia, it's a repository I believe is correct word
[16:59] <OerHeks> Fusion Installer for Unofficial Kodi Addons
[16:59] <ikonia> donofrio: looks like danger
[16:59] <donofrio> just was trying to help
[16:59] <ikonia> why does he need that ?
[16:59] <donofrio> yah good point
[16:59] <donofrio> #mybad
[16:59] <ikonia> there are many internet radio stations
[16:59] <iparhan> o
[17:00] <diegomate> xD
[17:01] <iparhan> donofrio , sorry body
[17:01] <iparhan> i followed step but there arent any music or MV ?
[17:02] <donofrio> iparhan, if you got config wizard and ran the script it will be under music 'I believe'
[17:02] <iparhan> can i add some from internet  or  i cant use this without any files in my computer ?
[17:03] <SipriusPT_> sorry for the delay Tj- and ikonia
[17:03] <SipriusPT_> TJ- : In my external server i have add a MX record to receive mail in my local server, there i am using cpanel and from what i have seen is the only way available there to reroute mail to my local mail server, there i have set my local server to receive mail with the DNS name who have a reverse DNS, associated with my public IP. The rest is like you said. I am able to do outgoing mail, my main problem is the income.
[17:03] <ikonia> SipriusPT_: you're making a problem
[17:03] <ikonia> use a proper mail service - don't host this on a home DSL connection
[17:03] <SipriusPT_> ikonia i am listing
[17:04] <ikonia> if you need to, pay someone to manage it, this is not a toy
[17:04] <SipriusPT_> =|
[17:05] <iparhan> donofrio  , can i add u in other chatting software ?
[17:06] <t3kg33k> Hello all. I am hoping someone can help me with a simple task
[17:06] <mjh75> SipriusPT_: would something like fetchmail do what you are looking for?
[17:08] <donofrio> iparhan, uh sure
[17:09] <raspado> hi all, when loading a sysctl.d conf
[17:10] <raspado> is it best to do a targeted reload like sysctl -p /etc/sysctl.d/conf
[17:10] <raspado> or use --system
[17:10] <iparhan> donofiro , which software u have ?
[17:10] <donofrio> hexchat
[17:10] <iparhan> give me your number ?
[17:11] <donofrio> nah I opened a chat window to you
[17:12] <SipriusPT_> mjh75: i have not tried, but that seems exactly what i need!!! Thanks a lot!
[17:13] <SipriusPT_> i was trying to set this just with postfix, but i will double check that fetchmail
[17:14] <mjh75> SipriusPT_: Keeps incoming SMTP blocked to your network, allows email to be stored on a real mail server, polled into your internal mail server and then delivered. What you are wanting can be done, but there is a lot of risk. fetchmail might be a good alternative for your needs
[17:15] <t3kg33k> I have a few log files I would like to combine into but within that combined log file have the log files filename included in the final combined log file.
[17:15] <SipriusPT_> thank you very much again mjh75, that is what i was looking for within postfix, but i notice that was not possible their from what i have saw
[17:15] <t3kg33k> Is that possible?
[17:15] <SipriusPT_> *there
[17:15] <jnj_> Has anyone had any success installing kde connect on xubuntu? I'm trying to make it so that there is a kde indicator in my panel
[17:16] <jnj_> I just cant figure out how to install appindicator-3.01
[17:16] <brunch875> a "Sign in with your Google Account" just popped. Should I be concerned?
[17:16] <brunch875> I have no idea which application is requesting this
[17:17] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | brunch875
[17:17] <donofrio> brunch875, when in doubt deny request
[17:17] <donofrio> donofrio, oh sounds like it was working
[17:17] <Jordan_U> brunch875: It's probably your browser, but it's hard to say without more info.
[17:17] <donofrio> I'll go back to mute now - lol
[17:18] <brunch875> http://imgur.com/a/Gpolc
[17:18] <brunch875> I recognize it to be from the "online accounts" thing
[17:18] <brunch875> but that is logged in
[17:20] <eyecrack> hello
[17:20] <brunch875> I'm wondering if this is a known bug or if I should format
[17:21] <eyecrack> other computers cannot connect with hotspot
[17:21] <eyecrack> ubuntu 16.0
[17:21] <eyecrack> which happened to be my version
[17:21] <brunch875> after denying, /usr/bin/signonpluginprocess crashed
[17:22] <SuperJonotron> anybody know the methods to access users running binaries from ubuntu-core snaps?
[17:22] <SuperJonotron> normal methods seem to return nothing
[17:27] <stevenm> hey why does network manager stink so badly?
[17:27] <popey> stevenm: do you have a specific issue?
[17:28] <stevenm> if I make my own connection in nm-applet for my onboard interface of enp2s0 then that's fine and it works... lets say i call it "My LAN"... but if I restart network manager... it makes another connection called 'enp2s0' and uses that instead - which seems to be a poor copy of "My LAN" - even though that also still exists
[17:29] <popey> Yeah, I have seen similar behaviour
[17:30] <popey> possibly https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=755202
[17:30] <stevenm> the new connection of 'enp2s0' isn't even real though - as if you switch to another... it goes away!
[17:30] <popey> looks like it's a known bug upstream
[17:32] <stevenm> popey, it's also got two entries which are "Ethernet Network ()    device not managed"  ... which *might* be vmnet1 and vmnet8 which VMware Workstation/Player has made - but if you edit networkmanager.conf to tell it to ignore them... it doesn't :S
[17:33] <popey> stevenm: yeah, sorry, I don't know how to fix that, other than adding a stanza in /etc/network/interfaces, so network manager ignores them fully
[17:43] <munsterman> so i have a box that i cannont ssh into, or get a login promt, i do get emails complaining about: 1 - error current pending sector ans 2 - error offline uncorrectable. I have booted into a live session and run smartctl on that hdd and it came back healty. i do not get a tty either. i have tried to go the recovery path but hit kernel panic roadblocks down that road. is there any advaice out there?
[17:43] <munsterman> ver 16.04 btw, sorry
[17:46] <acicula> munsterman: can you pastebin the output from smartctl?
[17:49] <munsterman> https://0x0.st/29V.txt
[17:57] <acicula> munsterman: those errors are spread out
[17:58] <munsterman> yes they are
[17:58] <acicula> not that familiar with the errors, but it looks like a bit error (CRC) so just an error in reading which can happen. Anything in the smart statistics themselves?
[17:59] <munsterman> long story short, i was trying to install nextclud, went to reboot because things werent going well and now shes dead in the water
[18:00] <munsterman> im confused how it can come alive enough to send error emails but no login promt, or tty even
[18:01] <acicula> well the processes that report might already be running before the disk failure kicks into killing the box?
[18:01] <munsterman> has to be, just weird
[18:03] <mint311> hey, this is munster, live boot on my other computer to help with logs
[18:06] <mint311> also, any idea when i drop to a shell from recoverymode it wants a root pw, ubuntu doesnt have a root user
[18:07] <acicula> press enter?
[18:07] <mint311> tried it
[18:07] <acicula> user password?
[18:07] <mint311> tried it
[18:07] <OerHeks> just your password of the 1st account created
[18:07] <mint311> yea, no go
[18:08] <acicula> livecd boot?
[18:08] <mint311> ...the solutions listed for that, adding init=/bin/bash, gives me the kernel panic
[18:08] <mint311> im on a live boot now
[18:08] <mint311> hdd mounts fine
[18:09] <acicula> what are the smart statistics?
[18:10] <mint311> do you have a specific command in mind or just --health?
[18:10] <acicula> the one that gives you a list of the smart counters
[18:11] <acicula> err -A
[18:14] <mint311> https://0x0.st/2vz.txt
[18:15] <acicula> ok that raw read erorr rate seems a tad high, heh
[18:15] <mint311> but no boot high
[18:15] <mint311> tbh, the drive is old af, ide
[18:17] <acicula> you can run a long selftest using -t long
[18:17] <acicula> but it looks like its on its way out and its backup time
[18:18] <munsterman> well,thats not an issue. im about to the point of doing a fresh install anyway
[18:23] <l1nuxbl4ck6h0s7> hi everybody
[18:23] <l1nuxbl4ck6h0s7> any girl ffro memxico ? lol xd
[18:24] <allamoox> Guys I have ubuntu running in Virtualbox, I installed few themes from ubuntuthemes.org and installed unity-tweak-tool. I created a folder called themes under the current user... and extracted my themse there.. but still I can't install it
[18:24] <allamoox> please any ideas will be highly appreciated
[18:25] <allamoox> I tried to control the Gnome-core as well... it get downloaded properly but still its not activated . HOWEVER when my box startup it says Gnome ubuntu
[18:25] <allamoox> but the desktop still unity
[18:27] <mint311> https://0x0.st/2vK.txt smartlctl long
[18:28] <acicula> mint311: smartctl -t short /dev/sdd1
[18:28] <acicula> or smartctl -t long /dev/sdd1 (might take awhile)
[18:29] <Mishari> Hello
[18:29] <Mishari> Everyone here been to Maldives ?
[18:29] <mint311> https://0x0.st/2vZ.txt
[18:30] <acicula> heh yeah, it will try to read the entire surface of the disk
[18:30] <acicula> so it will take awhile. short just does a random selection
[18:30] <OerHeks> Mishari, how is that related to ubuntu support?
[18:31] <Mishari> I'm sorry, my mistake
[18:31] <Mishari> Sorry OerHeks
[18:33] <Mishari> okay, here's a related question.
[18:33] <Mishari> How to practice ssh ?
[18:33] <l1nuxbl4ck6h0s7> Somebody of Spain or USA wanna do development business with our company of Mexico. Write ceo@easyappscompany.com Best regards.
[18:34] <l1nuxbl4ck6h0s7> Somebody of Spain or USA wanna do development business with our company of Mexico. Write ceo@easyappscompany.com Best regards.
[18:35] <OerHeks> Mishari, good start, the ssh wiki
[18:35] <OerHeks> !ssh
[18:35] <OerHeks> l1nuxbl4ck6h0s7, wrong channel to spam
[18:35] <Mishari> Thanks OerHeks  you're always kind person, if you were here next to me I could give you a piece of cake.
[18:36] <OerHeks> :-)
[18:42] <ub_ubuntu> Anyone using live-patch snap??
[18:47] <mint311> acicula: ok so when i smartctl -t short /dev/sdd1 i get the message about how long it'll take and how to abort then it dumps back to a command promt...no output...this cant be normal behavior
[18:50] <mint311> there is no smart log in /var/log. what am i missing...?
[18:52] <ridicule> Hello.. I have been trying to congigure nginx in ubuntu 12.04 but make command wouldn't work
[18:52] <ridicule> It gives the error make: *** No rule to make target `build', needed by `default'.  Stop.
[18:53] <ridicule> could anybody please help me with it
[18:53] <Ben64> ridicule: why not use nginx from the repository
[18:53] <ridicule> Cos I want to configure WAF along with it
[18:54] <ridicule> Ben64, ^
[18:55] <Ben64> doesn't sound like a great idea, you'd need to keep on top of security yourself
[18:55] <ridicule> Ben64, could you please help me with the nginx
[18:55] <ridicule> I mean.. the make command
[18:55] <Ben64> it's worrying that  you don't know how to do that
[18:56] <Ben64> maybe you'd prefer the package nginx-naxsi
[18:57] <ridicule> Looks cool. But the place where I work, they want me to go with modsecurity
[18:58] <mint311> acicula: i found the log. says health passed
[18:58] <ridicule> Well I also made sure that the build dependencies are installed
[19:02] <apollo_> I installed Ubuntu 16.04.1, fresh on my system. Some videos in firefox won't play. Does anyone have a clue what might be wrong?
[19:03] <mabus> installing a new motherboard/ram/cpu in my box and putting the ubuntu system drive in it. anything else i need to do to get it to boot
[19:04] <brunch8751> apollo_: could you point to one of those videos?
[19:04] <cryptosam> Who is using last version of Xubuntu?
[19:05] <tdannecy> mabus: Check to make sure the cpu is the same (32 or 64-bit)
[19:05] <cryptosam> Hello all!
[19:11] <squinty> cryptosam, might want to try asking in #xubuntu.  also better to just state your problem than asking "is anyone......"  :-)
[19:12] <brunch8751> Is ubuntu more lightweight than windows? I tried googling but all the results are like "20 reasons why ubuntu is a thousands better than windows"
[19:12] <brunch8751> by lightweight I mean less code / more compact
[19:12] <ppf> who knows
[19:13] <ppf> windows is closed source and all
[19:13] <brunch8751> indeed... might be a hard question to ask :p
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> brunch8751  FWIW, there's this http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/  http://www.goodbyemicrosoft.net/news.php
[19:16] <brunch8751> I'll give it a read! Although I'm afraid it could be a bit biased!
[19:16] <ppf> those are really bad though
[19:16] <instigator> Hello. When trying to shutdown my pc, it restarts. Im on ubuntu 16.06. is there a fix?
[19:17] <ppf> how do you shutdown?
[19:17] <instigator> does this both in GUI and terminal
[19:17] <instigator> sudo shutdown now -h
[19:17] <instigator> use to work before I upgraded to 16.06 from 14.04
[19:18] <brunch8751> instigator: did you try sudo poweroff instead?
[19:18] <cryptosam> How to remove all skype packets? (Xubuntu 16.04). Thanks a lot!
[19:18] <brunch8751> I don't remember using shutdown now -hP for a long time now
[19:18] <brunch8751> also, might be because you're missing the -P flag
[19:18] <ppf> that's the same command
[19:18] <brunch8751> ah, nevermind then
[19:19] <instigator> well shutting down in GUI doesnt work like it use to
[19:19] <ppf> -h == -O and shutdown == poweroff
[19:19] <instigator> i think its a bug
[19:19] <ppf> did you look at old dmesg/kern.log ?
[19:21] <ursulo> !list
[19:21] <rmac> Has anyone seen rtcwake work SOME of the time?
[19:23] <rmac> I have a cron task that runs every day to sleep my server until 9am (using rtcwake to disk).  I find that it's randomly working.  It used to work correctly every day.  I haven't changed the scripts.
[19:23] <joseph> joseph
[19:25] <rmac> The only thing I did change was moving my system to a new case.
[19:25] <chelios> hi there, I am trying to disable 'focus follows mouse' without much luck. I reversed the changes I made to enable it in the first place but it does not seem to work. Any ideas?
[19:27] <tdannecy> rmac: Maybe the CMOS battery is old/dead
[19:27] <rmac> CMOS battery is definitely old...  Any idea how it's working sometimes?
[19:29] <tdannecy> rmac: Electronics are sometimes weird when they die out. It could work in spurts and then not work for weeks, only to come back again.
[19:29] <rmac> Regardless, I'll replace that and hope the problem is fixed.  I'm curious how it works occasionally.  Maybe the battery has just enough power to maintain the boot only occasionally.
[19:29] <rmac> tdannecy: Thanks for the suggestion
[19:37] <BaW> whats the best or great GUI text-editor for linux, I'm used to using NotePad++ for windows and I really like it. I have tried NotePadQQ for linux but not a fan of it at all
[19:37] <jatt> emacs
[19:37] <rmac> obligatory vim answer
[19:37] <malkauns> BaW, sublime-text
[19:38] <Shogoot> Hi all. I updated my xenial server an dnow rtorrent is broken. "
 No connection to rTorrent. Check if it is really running. Check $scgi_port and $scgi_host settings in config.php and scgi_port in rTorrent configuration file." But my rtorrent IS running. Can i get anyone to help me find out whats wrong?
[19:38] <rmac> Sublime should be similar enough to NP++
 yes i saw that but isnt it $$?
[19:38] <tdannecy> BaW: Nah emacs and vim are just what people say. NotepadQQ is pretty great.
[19:38] <malkauns> not if you're ok with a slight nag
[19:38] <malkauns> once in a while
[19:38] <BaW> yeah not a fan of vim at all
[19:39] <jatt> !info emacs | BaW
[19:39] <rmac> I run it on my Mac.  Every x number of saves it asks me to purchase with the ability to hit escape to dismiss the popup.
[19:39] <malkauns> yep
[19:39] <BaW> see for my Mac i've been using textmate and love it
[19:39] <ghostmech007> what's wrong with vim?  i use it in a pinch but normally use NotepadQQ
[19:40] <BaW> unless there is a differ version then what im used to ... isnt it via command line only? yes it will come up with a a gui but in terminal
[19:40] <rmac> I use vim primarily and Kate occasionally in Linux
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> BaW  'being used to something' is a matter of time, try what's being suggested here and choose what suits you best
[19:40] <jatt> ghostmech007: http://cdn.osxdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/quit-vim-humor.jpg
[19:41] <malkauns> BaW, u can get gedit to look nice with some decent themes and fonts
[19:41] <allamoox> Hello what is the default root password
[19:41] <rmac> jatt: Hahaha!
[19:41] <allamoox> in ubuntulog
[19:42] <ghostmech007> duh. it's :quit!
[19:42] <ghostmech007> oh wait... not it's :wq!!
[19:42] <ghostmech007> uhhhh
[19:42] <ghostmech007> hold on
[19:42] <jatt> 😺
[19:43] <ghostmech007> i forgot...
[19:43] <ghostmech007> haha
[19:43] <rmac> :q is quit.  :q! is quit without saving.  :wq is save and quit
[19:43] <Free-Rider> toor
[19:43] <Free-Rider> allamoox, for kali it is toor
[19:43] <ghostmech007> i know i was just having fun
[19:44] <ghostmech007> also you can just do :w to just save
[19:44] <rmac> Oh, sorry.  Actually trying to be helpful :D
[19:44] <Free-Rider> a
[19:44] <ghostmech007> what's your opinions on nano
[19:44] <ghostmech007> i don't like using it
[19:45] <Free-Rider> free-Rider just going to Quit
[19:46] <rmac> ghostmech007: I agree.  Don't like using nano.
[19:47] <tdannecy> ghostmech007: Nano is great. I love it.
[19:48] <ghostmech007> uh oh now i started it
[19:48] <rmac> Well, now this has to be linked.  Again.  http://xkcd.com/378/
[19:49] <ghostmech007> haha that's a good one
[19:50] <jatt> actually, ed is the best editor: https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.en.html
[19:51] <BaW> sorry everyone got stuff on the phone but im back ... reading everything
[19:52] <BaW> i tried atom but i hated how slow it was, i'm on a super fast computer and it shouldnt take a text editor 4-6 seconds to open
[19:52] <allamoox> Im asking about ubuntu
[19:53] <jatt> I agree, atom is very slow
[19:53] <ghostmech007> never tried it because i heard it caused problems
[19:53] <ghostmech007> does anyone know why the ubuntu mirrors have been super slow lately?
[19:53] <BaW> like i really wanted to love atom but it was more of a hate and burn type of thing
[19:53] <BaW> has anyone tried http://limetext.org/ ?
[19:53] <BaW> ghostmech007 i always use limestone networks always the fastest
[19:54] <ghostmech007> BaW: i'll check that out.
[19:54] <ghostmech007> BaW: where are they based?
[19:54] <Bray90820> So my CherryTrail tablet freezes with high CPU load and I can't see the error in dmesg because the systems frozen how would I be able to view the error
[19:54] <BaW> US
[19:55] <Bray90820> It's running ubuntu 16.10
[19:55] <BaW> ghostmech007 this is what i use http://mirror.lstn.net/ubuntu-releases/
[19:55] <rmac> BaW: atom is based on Chromium (web browser) and V8 (javascript engine).  It's slow because you're running web code, not native.
[19:55] <BaW> rmac i did read about that but i was hoping it would of been more optimized
[19:55] <jatt> Bray90820: restart and check /var/log
[19:55] <ghostmech007> BaW: thanks for that.  do they have a repo mirror as well?
[19:56] <BaW> ghostmech007 yes
[19:56] <ghostmech007> ncie
[19:56] <ghostmech007> whoops
[19:56] <BaW> ghostmech007 i have a 10gbit fiber and always can pull a good 1gbit from them
[19:56] <Bray90820> jatt: Would there be a time in the log file so I know what error is what?
[19:56] <ghostmech007> BaW: i would download the whole internet with speeds like that
[19:56] <BaW> ghostmech007 even at home its really fast
[19:56] <BaW> ghostmech007 i have tried i need more storage
[19:56] <jatt> Bray90820: yes, syslog entries include the date
[19:56] <BaW> need to purchase some 10tb hdd
[19:57] <Bray90820> jatt: time and date or just date?
[19:57] <ghostmech007> BaW: haha yeah.  I have a 18TB machine at the house that's filling up rather quickly
[19:57] <jatt> Bray90820: per default time and date are there, check /var/log/syslog
[19:58] <BaW> ghostmech007 what you running for storage? FreeNAS ?
[19:58] <ghostmech007> BaW: you see those new 16TB SSD's that samsung dropped?
[19:58] <Ben64> !ot
[19:58] <BaW> ghostmech007 no but thats so cool
[19:58] <Bray90820> jatt: Thanks
[19:59] <ghostmech007> BaW: at the low low price of $7200 USD
[19:59] <BaW> ghostmech007 i can get a good 10 of those before i start crying, jk one would make me cry
[19:59] <Ben64> ghostmech007, BaW: please keep the offtopic chatter out of here
[20:07] <FEEDC0DE64> hi! is here somebody who could help me to build a safe webserver?
[20:07] <BaW> unplug it
[20:07] <BaW> jk, what are you running'
[20:08] <BaW> php? mysql?
[20:08] <FEEDC0DE64> yeah
[20:08] <BaW> apache?
[20:08] <FEEDC0DE64> and mail
[20:08] <FEEDC0DE64> i am currently installing i-mscp for administration
[20:09] <BaW> this was a good start when i was reading it yesterday
[20:09] <BaW> https://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-secure-ubuntu-1604-lts-server-part-1-basics
[20:09] <FEEDC0DE64> is it possible to move /var to an external drive later
[20:09] <ioria> FEEDC0DE64, are you familiar with the lamp stack ?
[20:10] <FEEDC0DE64> i always installed apache2, php5 and mysql-server via apt-get
[20:10] <ioria> it's that
[20:10] <FEEDC0DE64> and I managed virtual hosts using config files
[20:10] <rmac> FEEDC0DE64: you could symlink it
[20:10] <FEEDC0DE64> i had multiple troubles symlinking /var
[20:10] <FEEDC0DE64> many services would not start anymore
[20:11] <FEEDC0DE64> i think I need to stop all running services
[20:11] <rmac> You may have issues because of drive mount order at boot
[20:11] <jatt> you can also consider lighttpd instead of apache
[20:11] <Jordan_U> FEEDC0DE64: Yes, you could mount a volume from an external drive to /var	.
[20:11] <FEEDC0DE64> ok but I can only do that via ssh
[20:11] <jatt> it's faster
[20:11] <FEEDC0DE64> i dont have physical access to the machine
[20:11] <BaW> jatt makes a great point apache is not as fast as lighttpd, if you can run it i would do it
[20:12] <FEEDC0DE64> no i definately want to stay with apache2
[20:12] <jatt> ok, it's all about choice 😉
[20:12] <FEEDC0DE64> so moving /var data to external drive only is possible when most services are stopped?
[20:12] <FEEDC0DE64> will mysql die if I move its data while it's running?
[20:12] <Ben64> i'd do it when the system is off
[20:13] <FEEDC0DE64> this is very inconvinient for me
[20:13] <FEEDC0DE64> I really want to try to do everything via network
[20:13] <Ben64> maybe could do it while / is mounted read only
[20:13] <Ben64> so set it up beforehand
[20:14] <constl> Hi, running 16.04, any good app or widget to suggest for monitoring hardware resources of the laptop?
[20:15] <Ben64> atop
[20:15] <rmac> If you want to try something graphical, I just found netdata.  https://github.com/firehol/netdata
[20:16] <jatt> !info lm-sensors | constl
[20:16] <ioria> there is by default System Monitor
[20:16] <constl> ok thank you, will look into these 3 options.
[20:17] <ioria> constl, just type System Monitor in Dash
[20:17] <constl> ioria, i have been using this so far but just wanted something that is easier to read, maybe run as a widget on top bar have it as part of my shell somehow
[20:18] <ioria> constl, a panel indicator ?
[20:18] <ioria> yes, there is one
[20:18] <szb> Hello everybody! I humbly ask for your help: I'm on 16.04.1, and my Unity session won't load anymore (no launcher, no taskbar, no wallpaper...). It must have something to do with me running Bleachbit before the last shutdown, although I only used it to clear out caches from Firefox, VLC, etc. and not system logs (and I didn't run it as root, either). Could you help me troubleshoot this?
[20:19] <ioria> !info indicator-multiload
[20:19] <constl> ioria, if by panel indicator you mean the top bar then yes that would be awesome, something that you could hover your mouse and see quick info
[20:19] <ioria> constl, indicator-multiload
[20:20] <ioria> constl, logout-login, after
[20:22] <constl> ioria, must have crashed when logged
[20:22] <ioria> constl, really ?
[20:25] <constl> ioria, manual start works fine
[20:26] <ioria> constl,i was suggesting, that ... try to logout-login again
[20:26] <ioria> constl,i otherwise, we need an autostsrt script
[20:26] <ioria> *autostart
[20:27] <constl> rmac netdata looks really nice, what's your experience so far?
[20:28] <velus> hello all im trying to compile a program, and im getting constant undefined reference to `add_dir_entry' all within squashfs-2.2-r2-7z how do i fix this?
[20:29] <OerHeks> velus, we need more info, what program, can you pastebin the log?
[20:30] <velus> its firmware mod kit
[20:31] <velus> http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Development this is basically the program,
[20:31] <rmac> constl: it's really overkill for my use.  A coworker is using it on a few of our servers and loves it.  I've been impressed with the GUI and amount of data, though.  It's really just running a bunch of other standard monitoring tools, though.
[20:32] <rmac> It's surprisingly lightweight too.
[20:32] <OerHeks> velus, so how is dd-wrt related to ubuntu?
[20:33] <NoImNotNineVolt> undefined reference errors are related to missing libraries.
[20:33] <NoImNotNineVolt> your program is failing to link.
[20:34] <velus> its not but im compiling it on ubuntu and i cant even compile the program on ubuntu i was told by them to downgrade the gcc and g++ to 4.x which i have done, but it still is failing on me so as they dont have a clue as they can do it on theres (centos fedora and gento) i thought i would ask in here
[20:35] <ioria> velus, clang or gcc ?
[20:35] <velus> gcc
[20:36] <jatt> there is #gcc
[20:37] <ioria> velus,  i get that is a ' --relocatable/-r linker flag. ' issue ... but idk the fix
[20:40] <netcrime__> Hello im trying to install Wine on ubuntu 16 (sudo apt-get install wine) but i get this error: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[20:40] <netcrime__> And if I try to install dependancies it keeps going. Is there a better way to install it
[20:40] <jatt> pastebin
[20:40] <netcrime__> ?
[20:40] <netcrime__> one sec.
[20:41] <netcrime__> jatt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23452548/
[20:43] <jatt> netcrime__: you running yakkety?
[20:44] <mabus> ive been staring at ubuntu boot logo for a few minutes now after putting my hd into a new motherboard/cpu/ram system
[20:44] <mabus> how can i get a shell or debug whats going on
[20:44] <szb> netcrime__, you could try >sudo apt-get update< and then >sudo apt install -f< (the second command will try to resolve problems with broken/partially installed packages). Then try installing wine again.
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> mabus  try hitting F12, i guess it will show you the 'text screen' of what's happening
[20:45] <netcrime__> jatt: no i dont
[20:45] <netcrime__> szb: wwill try
[20:45] <ioria> !info wine
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> mabus  it does on my old acer laptop
[20:45] <mabus> MonkeyDust: nothing? :(
[20:46] <mabus> thanks though. ill try rebooting and hitting f12 earlier
[20:46] <Jordan_U> mabus: ctrl+alt+F1
[20:46] <Jordan_U> mabus: Wait.
[20:46] <mabus> Jordan_U: ctrl-alt-f1 does not appear to yield a shell anymore like it did in older releases
[20:46] <mabus> just a blinking cursor in top left
[20:46] <netcrime__> szb: I get same error
[20:47] <Jordan_U> mabus: If you're going to reboot anyway, at least hold shift (if BIOS) or spam escape (for UEFI) during boot to get a grub menu, then select the recovery mode entry from the advanced options submenu.
[20:47] <ioria> netcrime__, not sure, but maybe you need a ppa
[20:48] <szb> netcrime__, ubottu just informed us that Wine doesn't exist in 16.10/Yakkety - but I assume you are on 16.04?
[20:48] <netcrime__> szb: Yes
[20:48] <ioria> netcrime__, cat /etc/issue
[20:48] <szb> netcrime__, do you have Synaptic Package Manager installed? (sudo apt-get install synaptic)
[20:48] <R063r1> I need help installing google chrome
[20:49] <R063r1> Preferably through command line
[20:49] <szb> R063r1, Google Chrome is available as a .deb on their website, but ONLY in 64bit.
[20:50] <netcrime__> ioria: 16.04.1 LTS
[20:50] <ioria> netcrime__,  apt-cache policy wine
[20:50] <netcrime__> szb: just installed
[20:50] <R063r1> szb in which I have dl it alread
[20:50] <R063r1> y
[20:51] <velus> #gcc is not talking
[20:51] <mabus> Jordan_U: booted up just fine after a reboot. may have been a loose cable in one of my drives or something  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[20:51] <R063r1> the computer will not let me install it
[20:52] <szb> netcrime__, alright! Can you open it and go to Settings >> Preferences and check if you have the box 'Consider recommended packages as dependencies' enabled?
[20:52] <netcrime__> ioria: Installed: (none)
[20:52] <netcrime__>   Candidate: 1:1.8.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10.1~ppa1
[20:52] <netcrime__>  I have to items in version candidate
[20:52] <szb> R063r1, alrighty then! What seems to be the problem? :)
[20:52] <netcrime__> szb: ok
[20:52] <ioria> netcrime__,   you already have a ppa :þ
[20:53] <R063r1> it will not let me install it szb
[20:53] <tojoko> hi
[20:53] <netcrime__> ioria: how can i remove them ? I added two one for dev version one normal
[20:53] <ioria> netcrime__,   and maybe is causing a conflict
[20:53] <szb> R063r1, are you trying to install it via Ubuntu Software?
[20:53] <R063r1> as in use chrome
[20:53] <tojoko> i unfortunately crashed my ubuntu installation and now it won't boot from  hard disk anymore :(
[20:53] <R063r1> yes and it will not let me
[20:54] <ioria> !info ppa-purge
[20:55] <netcrime__> szb: I cant seem to find Preferences in Settings window
[20:55] <szb> R063r1, IMHO the Software Center is glitchy... You could try Gdebi instead! (sudo apt install gdebi)
[20:55] <R063r1> is there a command that I can use
[20:56] <szb> R063r1, then you can right-click the .deb-file and open it with Gdebi
[20:57] <szb> you could use 'dpkg -i' or you could use gdebi on the command line (which is particularly nice because it will pull in all dependencies for you!)
[20:57] <szb> R063r1, like "sudo gdebi google-chrome-.....deb" or whatever the deb-file is called :)
[20:58] <velus> i have a little buggy ubuntu question. every so often my laptop crashes (fully freezes to the point i have to hard reset it) and when it loads back up i get to a screen i need to type in fsck /dev/sdb1 and then fix it
[20:58] <velus> what causes this
[20:59] <ioria> faulty hard disk ?
[20:59] <szb> netcrime__, strange! Does it show you the menu bar with "File -- Edit -- Package -- ..."?
[20:59] <szb> netcrime__, sorry, i misread your answer. For me, "Preferences" is right on top of the drop-down menu!
[21:00] <procyon> Hello, I cant access a captive portal on a comcast public wifi hotspot. Using 16.04 and various browsers but still no luck. No firewall, no adblockers. Other captive portals seem to work fine. Any advice?
[21:01] <jamie_1> hey i have an odd question, is there a way for me to make a like package for a play on linux piece, like say i used play on linux to make a setup for a windows program like a calculation program, can i take that and make a package i could put on like a github for me to just download/clone and install on another machine?
[21:01] <jamie_1> would make my life so much easier
[21:02] <MonkeyDust> jamie_1  sounds like open source policy
[21:02] <jamie_1> MonkeyDust: ?
[21:02] <MonkeyDust> jamie_1  so i guess you could, if the source were available
[21:02] <velus> could be a faulty hdd thinking about it
[21:03] <netcrime__> szb: ioria: Thank you for help. Im leaving this for next day
[21:03] <R063r1> ok it is now installed
[21:03] <szb> netcrime__, you're welcome! good luck! :)
[21:03] <R063r1> thankyou szb
[21:03] <szb> R063r1, cool! :D
[21:03] <jamie_1> MonkeyDust: well i have a personal program made that runs on the .net due to what i built it with awhile ago and would like to be able to just make a package from the play on linux setup i have on my one computer
[21:04] <procyon> Continued: Connecting to the public wifi works but every url times out. 1.1.1.1 redirects to what seems to be a login, but it times out before any data is exchanged
[21:05] <MonkeyDust> jamie_1  this is channel is for specific ubuntu issues
[21:06] <jamie_1> MonkeyDust: i know, but i thought someone in here might know where everything for it would be
[21:06] <jamie_1> also... good luck getting as response on #playonlinux
[21:06] <jamie_1> *a
[21:11] <sector327> anyone available to help troubleshoot gnome shell integration issue?
[21:11] <sector327> I am running UB 16.04LTS, gnome desktop and I had gnome shell integration extension installed on chromium when I was running fedora. Now that I have installed UB, I log into chromium with my google account, it loads all my bookmarks, extensions etc and now I get a constant pop up that there is a Gnome Shell Integration error. "no such interface 'org.gnome.Shell.Extensions' on...???
[21:11] <sector327> pic of error - https://s16.postimg.org/cxunzvnj9/2016_11_08_10_50_25.jpg
[21:12] <szb> sector327, you should ask in #ubuntu-gnome! Have you checked if that extension is working in Gnome 3.18 (which 16.04 is using)? Fedora probably is one or two steps ahead and so might be the extension...
[21:14] <szb> sector327, wait! You are using Unity?
[21:14] <sector327> szb, thanks for the reply. I've asked in ubuntu-gnome but no one has replied. good idea about the extension
[21:14] <sector327> yes. unity
[21:15] <sector327> szb, good catch. I didn't even realize I'm using hte unity desktop with ubuntu!
[21:15] <szb> sector327, Unity is heavily based on Gnome, but it is not Gnome! So there is little to no chance to get any of the Gnome-Extension working, as they are specifically made for Gnome-Shell and not much else!
[21:15] <sector327> durrr
[21:15] <sector327> szb, so any words of wisdom on how to remove the extension?
[21:15] <szb> sector327, haha, i know that feel, bro! ^-^
[21:17] <szb> sector327, sorry, not really! From the top of my head i don't know the path where they are usually stored... You might want to check on extensions.gnome.org and see if they give instructions as to where you have to put it in the first place.
[21:17] <sector327> szb, when I go into chromium extensions to remove it, it shows as "installed by enterprise policy" which I'd assume just means root
[21:17] <sector327> szb, ok good idea. thanks for the lead!
[21:17] <szb> sector327, you could try installing the gnome-tweak-tool (which should work in unity). It has an option to enable/disable extensions
[21:18] <drew__> hi. i feel so dumb asking this here, but im new to ubuntu, i just went to play minecraft, and my saved worlds are gone? am i screwed or is there a way to recover them on ubuntu?
[21:19] <sector327> drew__, welcome. can't help you on your issue as I dont do computer games. just wanted to say there's only no dumb questions, just dumb people. (or something like that)
[21:19] <sector327> ;)
[21:20] <sector327> drew__, have you checked out Ubuntu forums? they have a section just for gaming.
[21:20] <sector327> https://ubuntuforums.org/
[21:20] <szb> drew__, I don't know where Minecraft saves its files. But search your Home folder for minecraft and see if anything shows up. It's probably a hidden folder.
[21:22] <szb> might be stored in "~/.minecraft" or "~/.local/share/minecraft" or something like that. the path might differ quite a bit, depending on the program.
[21:22] <szb> drew__, if you can find out in what format the save files are stored you can also search for those and check if there are any!
[21:25] <drew__> sector327 i shall check out the forums now :) thank you kind sir :)
[21:25] <drew__> szb i'll try that now :)
[21:25] <Bish> somebody familiar with rsyslog?
[21:25] <Bish> and willing to tell me how the f* i stop postfix from logging into syslog?
[21:29] <szb> Guys, I'm on 16.04.1 and my Unity session is broken, it won't load. I couldn't find anything on this issue for specifically for 16.04 so far (there are 'fixes' for earlier versions but they don't work for me) and I'm not even sure where the problem is located. I suspect my last usage of 'Bleachbit' deleted something that it shouldn't have, although I'm quite familiar with its functions and I've used it countless times before without
[21:29] <szb> trouble! I also can't just reinstall Unity because I have lost any internet connection on that machine... Do you have any leads for me? :3
[21:35] <baye> bonsoir comment migrer vers ubuntu mate 16.10
[21:36] <baye> bonsoir comment migrer vers ubuntu mate 16.10 ?
[21:37] <NoImNotNineVolt> !french
[21:37] <caleb_> hi
[21:37] <szb> baye, je ne sais parler Francais... Cette channel est en l'anglais! Mais je croix il y a #ubuntu-fr pour les peuples francophones!
[21:37] <caleb_> hi sickos
[21:37] <NoImNotNineVolt> d'accord.
[21:37] <baye> ok  merci szb
[21:37] <caleb_> motherfuckers
[21:39] <velus> can i do a wildcard install with a not condition on it i.e i want to do a wildcard libstdc++-5-* but not have 5-doc
[21:44] <R063r1> Hello
[21:44] <sector327> ello
[21:44] <velus> hello
[21:44] <szb> hello again, guys! :)
[21:44] <boquete___> Hay
[21:44] <velus> can you use a not (i am asuming !) in a whildcard search on apt
[21:45] <nacc> velus: what would that mean? show an example, I mean. I don't believe that is possible, btw
[21:46] <velus> say i want to install all libstdc++-4.9-* except libstdc++-4.9-doc chould i do a not in the wildcard
[21:48] <velus> is the not symbol in shell !
[21:48] <nacc> velus: what would your example regular expression be? i don't think that's expressible
[21:48] <nacc> velus: apt isn't using the shell to expand the pattern
[21:48] <velus> i thought it did
[21:48] <nacc> then it would be using local files to determine what is being searched for, which makes no sense
[21:49] <nacc> velus: you may want to read `man apt` and `man apt-get`, the install section
[21:49] <nacc> velus: i believe apt can do it
[21:50] <nacc> velus: `apt install libstdc++-4.9-* -libstdc++-4.9-doc`, maybe?
[21:59] <sphrak> Hi, I am a bit confused about the munin version in xenial repo, when reading the docs for munin it says version 2.1.x is installable via apt?
[22:00] <nacc> !info munin xenial
[22:00] <nacc> sphrak: what docs?
[22:01] <bobdobbs> Hi. I've got an issue with installing pretty much anything using apt on ubuntu 16.04. Every apt operation returns errors related to a particular package
[22:01] <sphrak> nacc https://munin.readthedocs.io/en/2.1.2/installation/install.html this
[22:01] <bobdobbs> The feedback from apt always has a passage that looks like this: http://hastebin.com/sobenerulu.sql
[22:01] <nacc> bobdobbs: pastebin the error
[22:01] <nacc> sphrak: "Please note that this might not be the latest version of Munin"
[22:02] <sphrak> nacc: ohh it confused me since it was filed under 2.1.2
[22:02] <nacc> bobdobbs: what version of ubuntu?
[22:02] <bobdobbs> nacc: Ubuntu 16.04.1
[22:02] <nacc> bobdobbs: emacs25 is only available in zesty, which is supported in #ubuntu+1 currently. If you installed that package from a PPA, please contact the PPA owner, as the pacakge appears broken.
[22:03] <bobdobbs> oh dang
[22:03] <bobdobbs> thanks nacc
[22:04] <nacc> bobdobbs: np
[22:04] <thechanceg> what irc client do you recommend?
[22:06] <nullbites> I like weechat
[22:06] <nullbites> Preloaded plugins
[22:06] <nullbites> Easy sasl support
[22:07] <nullbites> and the configuraqtion is kind of weird but is super intuitive when you get use to it.
[22:08] <thechanceg> cool. I'll check it out. Thanks
[22:18] <bobdobbs> hey this is odd. I'm basically in the process of purgng  emacs on my system so that I can proceed to try and install the latest version. I'm removing a package called 'emacsen-common'. The output while I'm removing it includes this: http://hastebin.com/ivibahonaw.erl
[22:18] <bobdobbs> why are all these packages being nuked?
[22:19] <meeseeks> are you using apt-get or aptitude? and because you selected for it to delete those? instead of picking another option.
[22:19] <bobdobbs> it looks like the system is basically removing gnome. Does gnome depend on emacs? that doesn't sound right
[22:19] <bobdobbs> meeseeks: I'm using apt-get
[22:20] <bobdobbs> It's too late. It's already happened
[22:20] <bobdobbs> does this mean I'll have to reinstall gnome?
[22:22] <bobdobbs> damn. it removd ubuntu-desktop
[22:22] <bobdobbs> that's really odd
[22:22] <bobdobbs> I'm in big trouble on my next reboot
[22:23] <SonikkuAmerica> bobdobbs: No you're not.
[22:23] <SonikkuAmerica> It's just a metapackage.
[22:23] <SonikkuAmerica> It only contains instructions for installing other packages, and doesn't have its own self-contained binaries.
[22:23] <SonikkuAmerica> !metapackage
[22:23] <bobdobbs> oh
[22:23] <bobdobbs> thanks SonikkuAmerica
[22:23] <velus> hey im now getting /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lstdc++ am i right i have installed a lot ot libstdc++ libraries and i thought that would of fixed it
[22:23] <velus> what am i missing
[22:24] <Bray90820> So my CherryTrail surface 3 running ubuntu 16.10 freezes on high cpu load and I need to hard shutdown my system here are some error from when it froze while playing a bluray rip
[22:24] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw/sQJQHqyV
[22:26] <meeseeks> bobdobbs: yes youll have to re install gnome. also stop using apt-get and use aptitude, it handles dependencies better
[22:26] <bobdobbs> hmmm.
[22:26] <nacc> meeseeks: i don't think that's an accurate help statement; as in, it's not because of the use of apt-get that the user chose to say yes to removing a bunch of packages
[22:27] <bobdobbs> k, I just did 'apt-get install gnome'. A lot of packages are downloading
[22:27] <SonikkuAmerica> Well, you've just installed the whole GNOME suite... are you sure you didn't want, say, ubuntu-gnome-desktop ?
[22:27] <bobdobbs> I'm just so used to using apt :/
[22:27] <bobdobbs> SonikkuAmerica: I honestly don't even know
[22:28] <SonikkuAmerica> bobdobbs: What are you trying to do?
[22:33] <bobbob> I'm back. Sorry, my gnome session crashed.
[22:33] <bobbob> I got dumped to a gnome login screen
[22:34] <bobbob> now when I try to login via gdm, I enter my password, get the "denied" rattle, and stuck stuck in the gdm screen...
[22:35] <bobbob> ... but at the gdm screen I chose "openbox" as my desktop environment. After that, gdm accepted my password.
[22:35] <bobbob> before my desktop crashed, I was asked what I was trying to do
[22:35] <bobbob> the answer is "update emacs
[22:35] <bobbob> ""
[22:35] <bobbob> but in the process of trying to update emacs, I totally broke gnome
[22:36] <bobbob> so... how can I restore it?
[22:37] <Ben64> bobbob: how does updating emacs do this
[22:38] <bobbob> Ben64: In broke something by adding a PPA that gives access to emacs25.  So I removed the PPA. Then I removed all the packages associated with it. Then I went on to remove system emacs
[22:38] <bobbob> system emacs includes a package called emacsen-common
[22:38] <bobbob> removing that removed a lot of gnome things
[22:39] <bobbob> openbox feels fast. but I feel like I'm back in the late 90's
[22:40] <welovfree_> how can I list software I installed ?
[22:40] <welovfree_> and see which taking more space than others?
[22:41] <zykotick9> welovfree_: install debian-goodies package then run "dpigs"
[22:42] <welovfree_> zykotick9, is this the command " sudo apt-get install debian-goodie"
[22:43] <zykotick9> welovfree_: but debian-goodies is the package name
[22:43] <bobbob> I guess I could install kde, but I'd prefer to use the gnome desktop environment
[22:44] <Ben64> are you on ubuntu or ubuntu-gnome or...?
[22:45] <bobbob> Ben64: I'm using ubuntu 16.04.
[22:45] <Ben64> then install ubuntu-desktop
[22:45] <Bashing-om> welovfree_: maybe something like ' dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages ' and look through the text file "my-packages" to see  what is , As to dis space, I use a 'du' command, like ' cd / ; sudo du -sx * | sort -n ' . If you need to drill down further, use cd to move to a directory of interest then repeat the du command.
[22:45] <Bashing-om> The results are in megabytes ,
[22:46] <bobbob> Ben64: I think it's already installed. I'll check in a sec... (when my console has returned from installed kde)
[22:46] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: if you're going that way, i'd suggest ncdu
[22:46] <Ben64> ncdu is fantastic
[22:47] <\9> sort -n and sort -h exist o_o
[22:47] <\9> and i just last week wrote a script to deal with that
[22:47] <bobbob> Ben64: like, I think that 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' was one of the first things I tried to reinstall gnome. But the feedback from the console told me that the package was already installed.
[22:47] <bobbob> I'll be able to tell you soon
[22:48] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: Noted ! and agreed , I will try and keep it in mind .. will so note it .
[22:50] <melt> hey i have ubntu 14.04 installed with linux kernel from repo, can i install linux kernel 4.8 over top of it?
[22:50] <bobbob> Ben64: ok, I ran 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'. The command failed with this output:
[22:50] <bobbob> http://hastebin.com/fiwasibaze.sql
[22:50] <\9> that's a bug in package configuration that ubuntu still hasn't bothered to fix
[22:52] <bobbob> \9: was your last directed to me?
[22:52] <\9> yeah
[22:52] <bobbob> if so, does that mean Im' pretty much screwed? no more kde or gnome?
[22:52] <\9> you need to fiddle with the packages somehow
[22:53] <bobbob> oh god
[22:53] <\9> bobbob: http://askubuntu.com/questions/621284/unmet-dependencies-when-trying-to-install-kde-plasma-5-3-on-ubuntu-15-04
[22:53] <bobbob> that possibility always horrifies me. I've never been able to recover from an apt-get issue. I always end up having to reinstall the OX
[22:53] <bobbob> *os
[22:54] <bobbob> \9: actually, that looks kinda easy. I'll do that.
[23:00] <velus> what is the wildcard in aptitiude
[23:01] <whothehellami> hi, I am trying to create a Dockerfile build up on http://fabiorehm.com/blog/2014/09/11/running-gui-apps-with-docker/. In this example 14.04 is used but I am using 16.04 and now I get an error "cannot create /etc/sudoers.d/developer: Directory nonexistent". Any suggestions?
[23:02] <Tater419> register ch4man55
[23:02] <velus> how do i stop it so i dont have to do sudo all the time in my account?
[23:03] <Tater419> register ch4man55
[23:04] <antonin> Hello, i'm new to linux (installed it yesterday) and i found out my audio is in lesser quality... is there a way to fix this ? Like installing other drivers etc ? I didn't find something stating this issue on the documentation
[23:06] <Ajanna> hello, I'm a dummy on Ubuntu 16.04. just formatted my external drive and now it's not displaying anymore...
[23:07] <melt> hey i have ubntu 14.04 installed with linux kernel from repo, can i install linux kernel 4.8 on this?
[23:07] <Tater419> REGISTER Hrk79vTx8I rslemo@aol.com
[23:08] <antonin> looks like no one can help us tonight ajanna ^^
[23:09] <Ajanna> @antonin ;(
[23:11] <supersupper> Whats the best way to benchmark my lan?
[23:11] <supersupper> i'm upgrading my network and I want to get a before/after idea
[23:11] <supersupper> SCP seems slow?
[23:13] <bobdobbs2> I'm back! I got the gnome desktop running on my system again! This makes me happy!
[23:13] <bobdobbs2> But no I'm running an edge version of emacs.
[23:13] <bobdobbs2> I'd like to remove it so that I can use a stable version
[23:16] <genii> supersupper: Using iperf as described at http://askubuntu.com/questions/7976/how-do-you-test-the-network-speed-betwen-two-boxes  is probably what you want
 i just came across this https://code.visualstudio.com/ so far very happy with it
 i was trying to figure out best text editor or at least something better then gedit and notepadqq and the code one was by far the best. super clean and easy
[23:19] <antonin> Hello, i'm new to linux (installed it yesterday) and i found out my audio is in lesser quality... is there a way to fix this ? Like installing other drivers etc ? I didn't find something stating this issue on the documentation
[23:19] <bobdobbs2> BaW: I'm pretty attached to emacs. I'm a long-time user
[23:19] <bobdobbs2> BaW:
[23:20] <bobdobbs2> BaW: yes, the term 'stockholm syndrome' may come to mind
 understand, i'm a long time notepad++ user on windows and was trying to find something close to it for linux and thats what i just started using today and so far love it
[23:20] <bobdobbs2> k
[23:21] <trd90000> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mvUhg6iXKU - Scott Roberts gets his mercury fillings removed (must watch)
[23:21] <bobdobbs2> it certianly looks pretty
[23:21] <BaW> very pretty and fast less then 0.002 to open on my ubuntu setup
[23:21] <bobdobbs2> I might take it for a spin!
[23:22] <bobdobbs2> but for the moment I'll try and get emacs25.1 isntalled
[23:22] <BaW> using about 55mb tho wish it was a little smaller but hey when you got 32gb ram do you really care anymore?
[23:22] <bobdobbs2> but thanks for the link. it does look worth testing!
[23:22] <BaW> your welcome
[23:22] <trd90000> Are you successful or not? Well, how much money do you have? That's the measuring stick of success in a Jew civilization.
[23:22] <hggdh> trd90000: stop
[23:23] <genii> bobdobbs2: https://launchpad.net/~adrozdoff/+archive/ubuntu/emacs
[23:23] <genii> bobdobbs2: May set fire to your house, eat your pets, etc... the usual warnings about using PPAs
[23:24] <bobdobbs2> hehe
[23:24] <bobdobbs2> yeah
[23:24] <bobdobbs2> I'm still kinda recovering from a cataclysmic emacs install
[23:25] <bobdobbs2> it borked my apt! And then when I removed it, removing emacs removing gnome-desktop!
[23:25] <bobdobbs2> I don't know how
[23:31] <Bashing-om> bobdobbs2: In removing many PPA packages, and reverting back to what is in the repo, there is ' ppa-purge '.
[23:31] <Bashing-om> !ppa-purge | bobdobbs2
[23:42] <zombiex> hello
[23:43] <zombiex> drone
[23:47] <mikubuntu> maxthon browser ran fine on this box previous to the big crash. since someone helped me install it last week, it will not render certain sites (facebook is one of them), so that's a dealkiller for me and maxthon. anybody know what the issue might be?
[23:49] <mikubuntu> the error message i get on maxthon is "Unable to make a secure connection to the server. This may be a problem with the server, or it may be requiring a client authentication certificate that you don't have. Error code: ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR"
[23:51] <mikubuntu> maxthon will render yahoo.com, but not google.com
[23:59] <sphrak> hi, im trying to get munin running on a server. but im getting 404's in the access log (nginx). But when I check the www directory the file is there.. could it be permissions?