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* dudz sips from a ubuntu mug01:37
dudzWhat are we working on today?01:37
tsimonq2dudz: Nothing much. ;)02:49
RatchetTheGamerWhat file manger does lubuntu use?08:27
NaeilRatchetTheGamer, PCManFM08:41
RatchetTheGamerThanks, is08:42
firefighterGood Morning. I have two Lubuntu 16.04 computers that I love.  Something happened on one to break my Graphics programs.14:59
firefighterBlender, FreeCAD and OpenSCAD15:00
firefighterall broke...15:00
firefighterRunning Blender from the menu, crashes on start.15:00
firefighterRunning Blender in a terminal, as a user it crashes.15:00
firefighterRunning Blender in a terminal, as root it runs fine.15:00
firefighterRunning FreeCAD from the menu or terminal works but crashes when I open a file.15:00
firefighterRunning OpenSCAD works but it will not Render or Preview.15:01
firefighterThere must have been an update or something to affect the graphics on all three.15:01
firefighterAny help or guidance you can offer, would be appreciated.  I need these programs for my work and am not sure how to troubleshoot.15:03
firefighterHave been searching for a couple days.15:05
firefighterGood Morning.  I was on yesterday with an issue and you all were very helpful.  Thanks.  My problem is not solved, I have more info. I hope you can help.15:11
firefighterBlender, FreeCAD and OpenSCAD all stopped working.15:11
firefighterRunning Blender from the menu, crashes on start.15:11
firefighterRunning Blender in a terminal, as a user it crashes.15:11
firefighterRunning Blender in a terminal, as root it runs fine.15:11
firefighterRunning FreeCAD from the menu or terminal works but crashes when I open a file.15:11
firefighterRunning OpenSCAD works but it will not Render or Preview.15:12
firefighterSomething happened on one to break my Graphics programs.15:12
firefighteron one LUbuntu computer.15:12
firefighterI have a second one and blender works fine on it.15:13
hateballfirefighter: do you get any feedback in the terminal when you run the apps?15:26
firefighterHi hateball15:59
firefighterbe right back...15:59
firefighterHi hateball, yes I do16:00
seeker43Any suggestions for using mini.iso to install on old Pentium II? (Dell Inspiron 7000)19:22
seeker43Installer comes up, but "install" hangs. Tried various "noapic" etc options with no luck19:22
tojokohi20:10
Fr_Daeseeker43 CD/DVD with Lubuntu 16.04 of LxDebian20:13
Fr_Daetry with acpi=off20:14
Fr_Dae(push "e" on install / try menu, and add juste before quiet)20:15
tojokowb Fr_Dae , i got trouble too ;)20:31
Fr_Daehi20:31
tojokoi got ubuntu installed and lubuntu on an sd card, that couldn't boot. i tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromSD and now none of them boots.20:33
tojokoit only tells me plymouth-upstart-bridge ...20:33
tojokoi think i give up now.20:34
lynoriantojoko, it might be your computer does not support booting from sd20:40
lynoriantojoko, does bios see sd as a boot device20:40
tojokono, thanks for the hint, that is why i tested the manual - but i ruined my linux on the hdd as well! :(20:42
tojokoand i got no idea, but reactivatin' an old computer on sunday, since that one won't but up anymore.20:43
seeker43Thanks Fr_Dae. In all cases, it hangs for several minutes at loading initrd.gz... and then gets a kernel panic that scolls off screen21:46
seeker43Among early lines I can see, at 3 seconds it says switched to clocksource tsc21:48
seeker43Then at 9 seconds: RAMDISK: incomplete write (32312 != 32768)21:49
seeker43Not sure why so few seconds when several minutes have elapsed21:49
clifferhi i just installed lubuntu on 2 machines (x64, lvm, crypt and x86, normal) and both are giving the error: installation of grub bootloader failed21:53
cliffershould i better try 16.04 instead of 16.10? or any suggestions?21:54
clifferalso, no buttons work... no choose device, no abort installation, no continue without grub21:54
tojokoyes, 16.04 is always the better choice - but won't help you i'm afraid to fix that certain problem.21:57
tojokodoes grub show up at all?21:57
tojokosorry, never had that problem.21:57
clifferit happens on the end of the installation screen21:58
clifferi tried to shut down and reboot using a usb stick and choosing the option "boot first hard drive"21:58
clifferbut no success21:59
tojokook. weird. is there anything on those computers? but i found the ubuntu installer unperfect.21:59
clifferon is a dualboot, the other one has a clean drive22:00
tojokowell, the one with the clean drive i would try to nuke with some other partition software. ultimate boot cd or so and nuke it completely.22:02
tojokoand then try again - the dual boot i don't have any idea.22:02
clifferi nuked the hardrive before and setup manually lvm and luks22:03
cliffersince the installer is crap22:03
tojokowell, seems to me like that didn't work out well either.22:04
clifferperhaps the installer is trying to isntall grub on the usb stick i installed from22:04
tojokono, why should it do that!?22:04
clifferi got the same error on two computer using completly different harddrive installation methods22:05
clifferbecause its crap? :)22:05
tojokoahh, but, interestin' you mention it - there is a field in the installer where you can / have to choose where to install the bootloader to. i  think u can easily miss that one.22:05
clifferi also had to turn off swap (swapoff -a') before installing with one of the sticks22:05
tojokono, i wouldn't say it's crap, although the installer ...22:05
clifferok lets say it is not perfect :)22:06
tojokonormaly that should not be necessary and i wouldn't call it a good idea either.22:06
clifferbut i was necessary since the installations aborts with an error about insecure swap22:07
clifferbut it was only needed on one of the computers22:07
clifferi try again with 16.04.22:07
seeker43Fr_Dae: I booting from CD with 32-bit Ubuntu 16.04 "Xenial Xerus" 48MB mini.iso22:08
tojokocliffer, check on https://itsfoss.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Installing_Windows8_Ubuntu_2.jpeg - there is a field for the bootloader!22:09
clifferupon the error, it asked me about choosing a different partition and the right one was choosen so i suppose i selected the right one but i will care on the next try22:10
tojokofine22:13
seeker43~22 minutes(!) elapses between "loading initrd.gz..." and screen clear/log messages scrolling off22:37
tojokoseeker43, not bad - i had never been so patiened, i guess.23:09

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