[01:37] * dudz sips from a ubuntu mug [01:37] What are we working on today? [02:49] dudz: Nothing much. ;) [08:27] What file manger does lubuntu use? [08:41] RatchetTheGamer, PCManFM [08:42] Thanks, is [14:59] Good Morning. I have two Lubuntu 16.04 computers that I love. Something happened on one to break my Graphics programs. [15:00] Blender, FreeCAD and OpenSCAD [15:00] all broke... [15:00] Running Blender from the menu, crashes on start. [15:00] Running Blender in a terminal, as a user it crashes. [15:00] Running Blender in a terminal, as root it runs fine. [15:00] Running FreeCAD from the menu or terminal works but crashes when I open a file. [15:01] Running OpenSCAD works but it will not Render or Preview. [15:01] There must have been an update or something to affect the graphics on all three. [15:03] Any help or guidance you can offer, would be appreciated. I need these programs for my work and am not sure how to troubleshoot. [15:05] Have been searching for a couple days. [15:11] Good Morning. I was on yesterday with an issue and you all were very helpful. Thanks. My problem is not solved, I have more info. I hope you can help. [15:11] Blender, FreeCAD and OpenSCAD all stopped working. [15:11] Running Blender from the menu, crashes on start. [15:11] Running Blender in a terminal, as a user it crashes. [15:11] Running Blender in a terminal, as root it runs fine. [15:11] Running FreeCAD from the menu or terminal works but crashes when I open a file. [15:12] Running OpenSCAD works but it will not Render or Preview. [15:12] Something happened on one to break my Graphics programs. [15:12] on one LUbuntu computer. [15:13] I have a second one and blender works fine on it. [15:26] firefighter: do you get any feedback in the terminal when you run the apps? [15:59] Hi hateball [15:59] be right back... [16:00] Hi hateball, yes I do [19:22] Any suggestions for using mini.iso to install on old Pentium II? (Dell Inspiron 7000) [19:22] Installer comes up, but "install" hangs. Tried various "noapic" etc options with no luck [20:10] hi [20:13] seeker43 CD/DVD with Lubuntu 16.04 of LxDebian [20:14] try with acpi=off [20:15] (push "e" on install / try menu, and add juste before quiet) [20:31] wb Fr_Dae , i got trouble too ;) [20:31] hi [20:33] i got ubuntu installed and lubuntu on an sd card, that couldn't boot. i tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromSD and now none of them boots. [20:33] it only tells me plymouth-upstart-bridge ... [20:34] i think i give up now. [20:40] tojoko, it might be your computer does not support booting from sd [20:40] tojoko, does bios see sd as a boot device [20:42] no, thanks for the hint, that is why i tested the manual - but i ruined my linux on the hdd as well! :( [20:43] and i got no idea, but reactivatin' an old computer on sunday, since that one won't but up anymore. [21:46] Thanks Fr_Dae. In all cases, it hangs for several minutes at loading initrd.gz... and then gets a kernel panic that scolls off screen [21:48] Among early lines I can see, at 3 seconds it says switched to clocksource tsc [21:49] Then at 9 seconds: RAMDISK: incomplete write (32312 != 32768) [21:49] Not sure why so few seconds when several minutes have elapsed [21:53] hi i just installed lubuntu on 2 machines (x64, lvm, crypt and x86, normal) and both are giving the error: installation of grub bootloader failed [21:54] should i better try 16.04 instead of 16.10? or any suggestions? [21:54] also, no buttons work... no choose device, no abort installation, no continue without grub [21:57] yes, 16.04 is always the better choice - but won't help you i'm afraid to fix that certain problem. [21:57] does grub show up at all? [21:57] sorry, never had that problem. [21:58] it happens on the end of the installation screen [21:58] i tried to shut down and reboot using a usb stick and choosing the option "boot first hard drive" [21:59] but no success [21:59] ok. weird. is there anything on those computers? but i found the ubuntu installer unperfect. [22:00] on is a dualboot, the other one has a clean drive [22:02] well, the one with the clean drive i would try to nuke with some other partition software. ultimate boot cd or so and nuke it completely. [22:02] and then try again - the dual boot i don't have any idea. [22:03] i nuked the hardrive before and setup manually lvm and luks [22:03] since the installer is crap [22:04] well, seems to me like that didn't work out well either. [22:04] perhaps the installer is trying to isntall grub on the usb stick i installed from [22:04] no, why should it do that!? [22:05] i got the same error on two computer using completly different harddrive installation methods [22:05] because its crap? :) [22:05] ahh, but, interestin' you mention it - there is a field in the installer where you can / have to choose where to install the bootloader to. i think u can easily miss that one. [22:05] i also had to turn off swap (swapoff -a') before installing with one of the sticks [22:05] no, i wouldn't say it's crap, although the installer ... [22:06] ok lets say it is not perfect :) [22:06] normaly that should not be necessary and i wouldn't call it a good idea either. [22:07] but i was necessary since the installations aborts with an error about insecure swap [22:07] but it was only needed on one of the computers [22:07] i try again with 16.04. [22:08] Fr_Dae: I booting from CD with 32-bit Ubuntu 16.04 "Xenial Xerus" 48MB mini.iso [22:09] cliffer, check on https://itsfoss.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Installing_Windows8_Ubuntu_2.jpeg - there is a field for the bootloader! [22:10] upon the error, it asked me about choosing a different partition and the right one was choosen so i suppose i selected the right one but i will care on the next try [22:13] fine [22:37] ~22 minutes(!) elapses between "loading initrd.gz..." and screen clear/log messages scrolling off [23:09] seeker43, not bad - i had never been so patiened, i guess.