[01:37]  * dudz sips from a ubuntu mug
[01:37] <dudz> What are we working on today?
[02:49] <tsimonq2> dudz: Nothing much. ;)
[08:27] <RatchetTheGamer> What file manger does lubuntu use?
[08:41] <Naeil> RatchetTheGamer, PCManFM
[08:42] <RatchetTheGamer> Thanks, is
[14:59] <firefighter> Good Morning. I have two Lubuntu 16.04 computers that I love.  Something happened on one to break my Graphics programs.
[15:00] <firefighter> Blender, FreeCAD and OpenSCAD
[15:00] <firefighter> all broke...
[15:00] <firefighter> Running Blender from the menu, crashes on start.
[15:00] <firefighter> Running Blender in a terminal, as a user it crashes.
[15:00] <firefighter> Running Blender in a terminal, as root it runs fine.
[15:00] <firefighter> Running FreeCAD from the menu or terminal works but crashes when I open a file.
[15:01] <firefighter> Running OpenSCAD works but it will not Render or Preview.
[15:01] <firefighter> There must have been an update or something to affect the graphics on all three.
[15:03] <firefighter> Any help or guidance you can offer, would be appreciated.  I need these programs for my work and am not sure how to troubleshoot.
[15:05] <firefighter> Have been searching for a couple days.
[15:11] <firefighter> Good Morning.  I was on yesterday with an issue and you all were very helpful.  Thanks.  My problem is not solved, I have more info. I hope you can help.
[15:11] <firefighter> Blender, FreeCAD and OpenSCAD all stopped working.
[15:11] <firefighter> Running Blender from the menu, crashes on start.
[15:11] <firefighter> Running Blender in a terminal, as a user it crashes.
[15:11] <firefighter> Running Blender in a terminal, as root it runs fine.
[15:11] <firefighter> Running FreeCAD from the menu or terminal works but crashes when I open a file.
[15:12] <firefighter> Running OpenSCAD works but it will not Render or Preview.
[15:12] <firefighter> Something happened on one to break my Graphics programs.
[15:12] <firefighter> on one LUbuntu computer.
[15:13] <firefighter> I have a second one and blender works fine on it.
[15:26] <hateball> firefighter: do you get any feedback in the terminal when you run the apps?
[15:59] <firefighter> Hi hateball
[15:59] <firefighter> be right back...
[16:00] <firefighter> Hi hateball, yes I do
[19:22] <seeker43> Any suggestions for using mini.iso to install on old Pentium II? (Dell Inspiron 7000)
[19:22] <seeker43> Installer comes up, but "install" hangs. Tried various "noapic" etc options with no luck
[20:10] <tojoko> hi
[20:13] <Fr_Dae> seeker43 CD/DVD with Lubuntu 16.04 of LxDebian
[20:14] <Fr_Dae> try with acpi=off
[20:15] <Fr_Dae> (push "e" on install / try menu, and add juste before quiet)
[20:31] <tojoko> wb Fr_Dae , i got trouble too ;)
[20:31] <Fr_Dae> hi
[20:33] <tojoko> i got ubuntu installed and lubuntu on an sd card, that couldn't boot. i tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromSD and now none of them boots.
[20:33] <tojoko> it only tells me plymouth-upstart-bridge ...
[20:34] <tojoko> i think i give up now.
[20:40] <lynorian> tojoko, it might be your computer does not support booting from sd
[20:40] <lynorian> tojoko, does bios see sd as a boot device
[20:42] <tojoko> no, thanks for the hint, that is why i tested the manual - but i ruined my linux on the hdd as well! :(
[20:43] <tojoko> and i got no idea, but reactivatin' an old computer on sunday, since that one won't but up anymore.
[21:46] <seeker43> Thanks Fr_Dae. In all cases, it hangs for several minutes at loading initrd.gz... and then gets a kernel panic that scolls off screen
[21:48] <seeker43> Among early lines I can see, at 3 seconds it says switched to clocksource tsc
[21:49] <seeker43> Then at 9 seconds: RAMDISK: incomplete write (32312 != 32768)
[21:49] <seeker43> Not sure why so few seconds when several minutes have elapsed
[21:53] <cliffer> hi i just installed lubuntu on 2 machines (x64, lvm, crypt and x86, normal) and both are giving the error: installation of grub bootloader failed
[21:54] <cliffer> should i better try 16.04 instead of 16.10? or any suggestions?
[21:54] <cliffer> also, no buttons work... no choose device, no abort installation, no continue without grub
[21:57] <tojoko> yes, 16.04 is always the better choice - but won't help you i'm afraid to fix that certain problem.
[21:57] <tojoko> does grub show up at all?
[21:57] <tojoko> sorry, never had that problem.
[21:58] <cliffer> it happens on the end of the installation screen
[21:58] <cliffer> i tried to shut down and reboot using a usb stick and choosing the option "boot first hard drive"
[21:59] <cliffer> but no success
[21:59] <tojoko> ok. weird. is there anything on those computers? but i found the ubuntu installer unperfect.
[22:00] <cliffer> on is a dualboot, the other one has a clean drive
[22:02] <tojoko> well, the one with the clean drive i would try to nuke with some other partition software. ultimate boot cd or so and nuke it completely.
[22:02] <tojoko> and then try again - the dual boot i don't have any idea.
[22:03] <cliffer> i nuked the hardrive before and setup manually lvm and luks
[22:03] <cliffer> since the installer is crap
[22:04] <tojoko> well, seems to me like that didn't work out well either.
[22:04] <cliffer> perhaps the installer is trying to isntall grub on the usb stick i installed from
[22:04] <tojoko> no, why should it do that!?
[22:05] <cliffer> i got the same error on two computer using completly different harddrive installation methods
[22:05] <cliffer> because its crap? :)
[22:05] <tojoko> ahh, but, interestin' you mention it - there is a field in the installer where you can / have to choose where to install the bootloader to. i  think u can easily miss that one.
[22:05] <cliffer> i also had to turn off swap (swapoff -a') before installing with one of the sticks
[22:05] <tojoko> no, i wouldn't say it's crap, although the installer ...
[22:06] <cliffer> ok lets say it is not perfect :)
[22:06] <tojoko> normaly that should not be necessary and i wouldn't call it a good idea either.
[22:07] <cliffer> but i was necessary since the installations aborts with an error about insecure swap
[22:07] <cliffer> but it was only needed on one of the computers
[22:07] <cliffer> i try again with 16.04.
[22:08] <seeker43> Fr_Dae: I booting from CD with 32-bit Ubuntu 16.04 "Xenial Xerus" 48MB mini.iso
[22:09] <tojoko> cliffer, check on https://itsfoss.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Installing_Windows8_Ubuntu_2.jpeg - there is a field for the bootloader!
[22:10] <cliffer> upon the error, it asked me about choosing a different partition and the right one was choosen so i suppose i selected the right one but i will care on the next try
[22:13] <tojoko> fine
[22:37] <seeker43> ~22 minutes(!) elapses between "loading initrd.gz..." and screen clear/log messages scrolling off
[23:09] <tojoko> seeker43, not bad - i had never been so patiened, i guess.