[04:16] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:20] <Bashing-om> Hiya lotuspsychje .. we can be in a easier state .. good help has arrived .
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> hehe
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: did you know secureboot could block a wifi card?
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> i fixxed a HP notebook yesterday with a broadcom wifi chip, and secureboot made it recognized as it was 'unclaimed' before
[04:23] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Nope !  .. Now that do not make a lot of sense . What in the world is common between WIFI and secure boot ???
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: seems like secureboot blocks 'unsafe' things
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> in my opinion its just a hiding game, so its harder to not use win
[04:25] <Bashing-om> Well .. another instance " just goes to show, never can tell " .
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> 16.04 has now built-in secureboot option to switch it off in install
[04:26] <Bashing-om> Oh for the days of a '57 Chevy .
[04:27] <Bashing-om> Wait ! Back then a computer was just a pipe dream .. I take that back :)
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:17] <ducasse> hi all
[07:24] <Bashing-om> I can feel the day crew comming on :)
[07:34] <ducasse> hi Bashing-om, any riots going on near you? ;)
[07:34] <Bashing-om> None that I am aware of presently ..come January ..might be a different story ... hummm .
[07:35] <ducasse> sad situation. are you getting some sleep soon? seems quiet atm.
[07:38] <Bashing-om> The sad thing was that we are, as a nation, in the position that we are in .. And yeah .. was in mind to pack it in for this session .
[07:39] <ducasse> how's your machine? did you fix the problem?
[07:44] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Naw .. like sometimes happens .. went from bad to worse with the bios upgrade .. Got a new plan .. see how it works out to re-install to the SSD. Dis-connect the spinners, Pin Bios to default, and " set to optimized defaults" , repartition the SSD and install the xubuntu desktop . See how it functions without the spinners in the picture ( YUK) .
[07:46] <ducasse> yes, bios defaults might help. it's an odd problem, though...
[07:47] <Bashing-om> I do not jave a clue how untegrating the SSD messes with the firmware such that the partion tables on the spinners are messed up ( twice ! tested ) . Had to run fsck to even boot up the spinners .. and grub takes a real pounding .. now you tell me ... how !
[07:48] <ducasse> intriguing. are the drives running in ahci mode?
[07:49] <Bashing-om> Well .. as this board only supports sata .. I do think so .. I can find no setting to make an adjustemnt .
[07:51] <ducasse> there's usually a bios setting that lets you choose raid, ahci and ide or something similar.
[07:51] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Keep in mind this is a ABIT board from 2007 . Addressing a SSD would not even be a concept back then .. right ?
[07:52] <ducasse> shouldn't really matter - a drive is a drive, pretty much. aiui, anyway.
[07:53] <Bashing-om> yeah .. I do have the settings for raid ( had this system raided a few years back ) . and there is a bit about "block" mode for the hard drives to enable ot disable .. can not imagine I would disable block mode .
[07:55] <ducasse> as long as the drives are set to ahci i would think it should be fine, i don't really know what else to suggest...
[07:57] <Bashing-om> ducasse: I am truely bamboozeled, I have now got my 14.04 minimal install booting with nomodeset ( graphic's card ) .. and 16.04 ubuntu desktop happy with the nouveau driver .. but I am sure that when I also connect the SSD will again drive the system insane .
[07:58] <ducasse> Bashing-om: what kind of ssd is this?
[07:58] <Bashing-om> Samsung EVO 850 .
[07:59] <ducasse> have you tried upgrading the firmware on it?
[08:00] <Bashing-om> The real strange thing is that the OS installes just fine .. I have re-installed a number of times in differing configurations, and not once seen a problem with the install !
[08:01] <ducasse> but when you start using it it blows up?
[08:01] <Bashing-om> ducasse: I checked for firmware updates for it .. and none are offered .. there is for the 850 pro however .
[08:02] <ducasse> Bashing-om: you need to download the samsung magician software and run it, it will grab the latest firmware.
[08:03] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Well it freezes up and can not install a proprietary driver .. and when I attempt to boot back into the spinners .. ouch .. grub and the partition tables are messed up .
[08:04] <Bashing-om> Well .. sure can not hurt to burn the magician software and see what results .. Is a good thought .
[08:04] <ducasse> that makes no sense at all. i wonder  what this could be... maybe the drive is possessed.
[08:06] <ducasse> i'd try the firmware upgrade, though, it could very well be the missing piece. i've got no other suggestions, anyway.
[08:08] <ducasse> Bashing-om: also, if you can, try the ssd in a different machine. just to see how that behaves.
[08:08] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Is a good thing ,, I will prior to the re-install .. as I really do want to re-partition to suit my use case .
[08:13] <ducasse> Bashing-om: well, best of luck anyway :) let me know if i can help.
[08:13] <Bashing-om> Anyway .. gone to bed .. will sleep on it a dither some more for a solution . G nite .. thanks for holding my hand .
[08:15] <ducasse> :)
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:51] <daftykins> \o
[11:51] <daftykins> what's new, BluesKaj ?
[11:52] <BluesKaj> Hi daftykins, not much, it's a bit early here, how about you?
[11:53] <daftykins> pretty quiet today, hiding in from the nasty weather (fast winds and rain the last few days) and doing some disc ripping for a client (music and DVD)
[11:54]  * BluesKaj nods
[11:56] <BluesKaj> was mucking about with pihole dns adblock type resolver, think I have it working now on Zesty by installing cgi and php7 upgrades
[11:56] <daftykins> hrmm
[11:56] <daftykins> i'm happy with ublock origin in firefox :>
[11:58] <BluesKaj> this makes for faster surfing
[11:59] <daftykins> doubt there's much to be improved over the aforementioned addon
[11:59] <BluesKaj> I notice a difference on this old pc
[12:01] <daftykins> hrmm
[12:01] <daftykins> lots of variables to such a thing
[12:36] <pauljw> hi everyone
[12:37] <daftykins> wb!
[12:40] <pauljw> :)
[12:41] <BluesKaj> Hi pauljw
[12:41] <pauljw> morning BluesKaj