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meetingologyMeeting started Thu Nov 10 16:02:31 2016 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:02
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slangasek[TOPIC] Lightning round16:02
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round
slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx xnox chiluk mwhudson)16:03
slangasekbdmurray mwhudson sil2100 pitti xnox infinity chiluk barry caribou cyphermox doko robru slangasek tdaitx16:03
bdmurraysetup daisy to only accept vivid armhf crashes16:03
bdmurrayupdated errors code to display 17.04 / zesty16:03
bdmurrayconfirmed retracers are not still OOM'ing on _search_contents16:03
bdmurraydiscovered we are receiving a lot more core files so asked for more retracers16:03
bdmurraysubmitted apport merge proposal regarding zgrep fallback16:03
bdmurrayresearch into apport memory utilization16:03
bdmurrayinvestigated and uploaded fixes for X,Y,Z for unattended-upgrades bug 159032116:03
ubottubug 1590321 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Yakkety) "/usr/bin/unattended-upgrade:FileNotFoundError:/usr/bin/unattended-upgrade@1468:main:get_dpkg_log_content" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159032116:03
bdmurraysubmitted PR for unattended-upgrades bug 1590321, 162464116:03
ubottubug 1624641 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Yakkety) "security updates with a new dependency don't get installed" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162464116:03
bdmurraydiscovered, researched and fixed unattended-upgrades bug 163997716:03
bdmurrayinvestigation into u-r-u bug LP: #163354516:03
bdmurrayinvestigation into LP: #160416016:03
ubottubug 1639977 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Yakkety) "/usr/bin/unattended-upgrade:FileNotFoundError:/usr/bin/unattended-upgrade@1468:main:write_stamp_file" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163997716:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1633545 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "PermissionError on upgrading from 16.04 to 16.10" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163354516:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1614576 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Xenial) "duplicate for #1604160 Upgrade from xenial to yakkety fails due to a UnicodeDecodeError" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161457616:04
bdmurraycreated a test case for T -> X version of LP: #161457616:04
bdmurrayinvestigation into update-notifier bug LP: 164031816:04
bdmurrayout tomorrow for a US Holiday16:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1614576 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Xenial) "Upgrade from xenial to yakkety fails due to a UnicodeDecodeError" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161457616:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1640318 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "/usr/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloader:OSError:process_download_requests:/usr/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloader@305:process_download_requests:print_exc:print_exception" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164031816:04
bdmurray✔ done16:04
slangasekno sil2100?16:04
slangasekpitti:16:05
pittiautopkgtest:16:05
pitti- Fix github retry script to work for automatic build-git detection (for snapcraft)16:05
pitti- Figure out and document how to mass-retry tests more efficiently16:05
pitti- Fix ENOSPC on armhf slaves, file lxd bug (#1640128)16:05
pitti- Make request.cgi session cookie permanent, to avoid having to re-login to SSO after every browser restart16:05
pittinetplan:16:05
pitti- Make networkd and NM route metrics compatible (#1639754)16:06
pitti- Fix race condition in integration tests16:06
pitti- New release and SRU to xenial16:06
pitti- Some documentation fixes16:06
pittisystemd:16:06
pitti- Backport graphical session units for snappy (#1640293)16:06
pitti- Fix nspawn regression of exit code (Debian #843509)16:06
pitti- Fix tests to work on merged /usr testbed16:06
pitti- Write generic autopkgtest for CLI binaries (--help, --version, invalid option)16:06
ubottuDebian bug 843509 in systemd "systemd 232 breaks docker with "no subsystem for mount" error" [Important,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/84350916:06
pitti- Investigate/fix systemd logind test regression16:06
pittimisc:16:06
pitti- Prepare trusty SRUs for init-system-helpers and systemd for introducing "systemd deputy init" for snapd (#1616422)16:06
pitti- Backport "indefinite number of loop devices" support to trusty for snappy (ongoing) (#1640823)16:06
pitti- umockdev: Fix test regression, do new upstream release 0.8.12, package for D/U16:06
pitti- Help mvo with setting up snapd GitHub PR autopkgtests16:06
pitti- Prepare UOS netplan talk (ongoing)16:06
pitti- Review https://code.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/apport/zgrep-fallback/+merge/31021816:06
pitti- Review https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/31038616:06
pittiEOF16:06
xnoxRemoving /boot partition from LVM installs, in progress.16:06
xnoxRemoving swap partitions / lowering swap usage, in progress.16:06
xnoxboost1.62 transition - almost done (just individual packages remaining)16:06
xnoxssl unmigration - sticking to 1.0 for now16:06
xnoxmigration away from 1k keys, in progress.16:06
xnoxzua testing16:06
xnoxEOF16:06
infinityShort week due to illness:16:07
infinity - Working on ubuntu-image/cdimage integration16:07
infinity - Updating tzdata16:07
infinity - Generic SRU/AA stuff16:07
infinity - Signed up to help build a wall to keep out American refugees16:07
infinityOff tomorrow for Remembrance Day16:07
infinityNO CARRIER16:07
slangasekchiluk: hi, anything for this week?16:08
slangasekbarry:16:09
barryubuntu-image: various triaging, cleanups, discussions, reviews, etc.; LP: #1621445; LP: #1617421; ongoing fixes to autopkgtest/gh-ci setups; releases: 0.11 & SRUs16:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1621445 in Ubuntu Image "Suppress the traceback unless --debug is given" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162144516:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1617421 in Ubuntu Image "human-readable error messages on parser failures, not python stacktraces" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161742116:09
barrydebuntu: claws-mail 3.14.1-1 syncpackage dropping ubuntu delta, testing (need to debug python plugin failures)16:09
barryother: upgrade laptop to zesty - filed several regression bugs ;)16:09
barryswapping tomorrow for 25-nov16:09
barry--done--16:09
caribouBugfix:16:09
caribouSlow SSH login16:09
caribou   - Still under investigation with LP: #159141116:09
caribou   - No more problem with failing server. Will test sil2100's fix if it restarts16:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1591411 in dbus (Ubuntu Yakkety) "systemd-logind must be restarted every ~1000 SSH logins to prevent a ~25 second delay" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159141116:09
caribouSamba libnss-winbind / libpam-winbind static build (LP: #1584485)16:09
caribou - Uploaded to Z, SRUed to T, X & Y. Now in -proposed16:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1584485 in samba (Debian) "Upgrading samba to latest security fixes together with winbind in nsswitch.conf can harm entire OS" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158448516:09
cariboutftp-hpa does not start on reboot (LP: #1342580)16:09
caribou - Waiting for Debian decision to backport their fix16:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1342580 in tftp-hpa (Ubuntu) "tftpd-hpa doesn't start on boot" [High,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134258016:09
caribouDevelopment:16:09
cariboumakedumpfile not working on kernel 4.8 (LP: #1626269)16:10
caribou - Fixed in Debian. Synced to Zesty16:10
caribou - Preparing SRU for T, X & Y16:10
ubottuError: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1626269 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1626269). The error has been logged16:10
caribouMisc SRU sponsoring : multipath-tools, python-pip, python-os-brick16:10
caribouOff tomorrow and sprinting next week in Malta16:10
caribou☑ Done16:10
cyphermox- was at Plumbers last week,16:10
cyphermox- SRUs for shim to P, T, X, Y.16:10
cyphermox- testing shim updates via PPA.16:10
cyphermox- discussed SMT on ppc64el w/ infinity, smoser.16:10
cyphermox- more coordination for the IPv6 remote-root stuff, open-iscsi is now in proposed, still left with isc-dhcp and initramfs-tools.16:10
cyphermox- investigated JFS install failure on ppc64el some more, looks like a kernel issue.16:10
cyphermox- preparing wpa merge after a week testing at Plumbers.16:11
cyphermox(done)16:11
slangasekdoko:16:11
robruno doko?16:12
slangaseksil2100: hi, would you like to go next?16:12
sil2100Uh oh! Please wait for me16:13
slangasekok16:13
sil2100I just entered my apartment, need to prep a quick list16:13
slangasekrobru:16:13
robrulp:bileto16:13
robru* db schema / json api cleanup16:13
robru* first snap iteration16:13
robru* UI redesign, better mobile support16:13
robru* FINALLY got creds in place for Ubuntu System Tests16:13
robru* Split qa_signoff into bileto-controlled qa and user-controlled qa_signoff fields.16:13
robru* Update to qakit r202.16:13
robru* Email ppa upload failures to bileto user.16:13
robru* Fix search by hitting enter.16:13
robru* Fix race condition when creating db tables.16:13
robru* Fix nagios check for new v2 api.16:13
robru* Handle Ctrl+Enter saving ticket fields16:13
robrulp:britney16:13
robru* a few more iterations towards source ppa grouping.16:13
robrulp:qakit, lp:queuebot, lp:phablet-tools, lp:ubuntu-silo-installer16:13
robru* Update for latest bileto json api changes16:13
robru(done)16:13
tdaitxsil2100, I'm last, you can go after me ;-)16:13
slangasek * Cloud sprint last week16:14
slangasek * SRU reviews16:14
slangasek * discussion around how to accurately map USNs to packages for Landscape16:14
slangasek * swap day yesterday for travel16:14
slangasek * US holiday tomorrow16:14
slangasektdaitx:16:14
slangasek(done)16:14
tdaitx= OpenJDK Updates16:14
tdaitx* Fixed one security backport16:14
tdaitx* Provided OpenJDK 7 packages for the security team16:14
tdaitx* Split changes to OpenJDK 8 into a few git branches, in particular:16:14
tdaitx   - aarch32 support, jtreg improvements, new buildwatch, use autoconf-2.68 on Precise, jvm cfg generation, -O3 strip fix16:14
tdaitx   - official repo is in bazaar, but each change requires a separated bzr repo (and a single one already takes ages to upload)16:14
tdaitx* Investigated multiple gcc's "-O3" and "-O0" optimization flags on OpenJDK 8 for  PPC64LE during jdk's fdlibm builds; turns out debian/rules is only stripping -O2 but PPC64LE has "-O3" by default16:14
tdaitx* Investigated Debian #843784 as a possible regression due to the OpenJDK 7 update; for now it seems like an icedtea-web update is required (ongoing)16:14
ubottuDebian bug 843784 in openjdk-7-jre "openjdk-7-jre: After last security update, icedtea-plugin fails all applets" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/84378416:14
tdaitx* Investigating possible regression on the new OpenJDK 8 package; new test failures are due to the jtreg run mode; trying to force failed tests to run on othervm mode (ongoing)16:14
tdaitx* Review and clean-up of OpenJDK 7 patches while doing some MUT tests on the weekend, submitted a few upstream16:14
tdaitx(done)16:14
slangaseksil2100: ok, your turn :)16:15
sil2100Ok, a quick one16:15
sil2100- Work on ubuntu-image bugs (thanks barry for the reviews!)16:15
sil2100- Work on preparing OTA-14 images16:15
sil2100- Discussions on image building and the release process16:15
sil2100- Help with landings and the usual trainguard stuff16:15
slangaseksil2100: (done)?16:15
sil2100Ah! (done)16:15
slangasekok :)16:15
slangasekany questions on status?16:15
sil2100Oh, and tomorrow is a national holiday16:15
barrysil2100: \o/16:15
slangaseksil2100: what holiday is it there? :)16:16
sil2100(possibly why the traffic was so terrible on my way back from my parents place)16:16
slangasekso far we have Armistice Day, Veterans Day, Remembrance Day16:16
sil2100Liberation Day16:16
sil2100Or Independence Day16:16
sil2100Something like that16:16
sil2100;)16:16
slangaseknice16:17
slangasek[TOPIC] Sprint travel16:17
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Sprint travel
slangasekby this point everyone should already have booked their travel and gotten their travel details on the spreadsheet16:18
slangasekif you haven't, you're late :P16:18
slangasekand I will pester you all day until you get it in16:18
slangasekI haven't looked yet to see who is or isn't on the spreadsheet, so you have roughly an hour to get your request in before the nagging begins16:18
slangasekany questions? :)16:18
bdmurrayIf I'm going to be pestered I don't need to bother double checking right?16:19
pittiwell played wrt. "optimizing your organization workflow"!16:19
slangasekheh16:19
slangasek[TOPIC] UOS16:20
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: UOS
slangasekUOS is next week16:20
slangasekpitti mentioned he's preparing a session to talk about netplan16:20
pittiI am yes16:20
barrythere is a git workflow session in community on tuesday16:20
slangasekwhat else should we be talking about there?16:21
pittisome intro, and then some "what are the next steps/cloud-init integration" discussion16:21
slangasekinfinity: do you think there should be a session for powerpc outreach?16:21
xnoxslangasek, there is architecture session for both powerpc & i386 schedule already16:21
xnoxplease attend =)16:21
slangasekoh is there?16:21
slangasekthat's new since when I looked at the schedule last16:22
xnoxRemoving /boot partition from LVM installs, in progress.16:22
xnoxRemoving swap partitions / lowering swap usage, in progress.16:22
xnoxboost1.62 transition - almost done (just individual packages remaining)16:22
xnoxssl unmigration - sticking to 1.0 for now16:22
xnoxmigration away from 1k keys, in progress.16:22
xnoxzua testing16:22
xnoxEOF16:22
xnoxbah16:22
xnoxhttp://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1611/meeting/22714/architecture-discussions/16:22
infinityWrong buffer. :P16:22
xnoxinfinity, i hate middle mouse stuff16:22
xnox"There have been discussions about flavors dropping either building CDs of: powerpc i386"16:22
xnoxLet's get an update or let some more discussions happen live.16:22
infinityslangasek: I'm still sorting the private outreach.  I'm not sure that a UOS session would help.16:23
slangasekxnox: is it on the schedule, or yet-to-be-scheduled?16:23
pittiyes, Tuesday last sesion16:23
xnoxit's on the shedule.... i think16:23
pitti1900 UTC16:23
infinityBut yes, the ISO disucssion is worth having.16:23
slangasekinfinity: well, it seems there's a session on the calendar for it, so it doesn't hurt to include outreach in it if it's going to happen.  If nothing else, if you can get a mailing list set up before then you have somewhere to point people16:23
infinityI'd love to see us drop all 32-bit ISOs ASAP, personally, regardless of what long-term plans we have for the archive.16:24
slangaseksounds like Tuesday should be a good discussion, then :)16:25
slangasekwhat else for UOS?16:25
barryxnox: i'd like to try to figure out if the boost transition is what's breaking claws' python plugin.16:26
slangasekthere's also a session about git-based package merge workflow, should be good16:26
barryyes16:26
barry1600utc tuesday16:26
caribouslangasek: been using that workflow for the last two cycles16:27
xnoxbarry, i believe it is.16:27
slangasekhttp://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1611/meeting/22710/git-based-merge-workflow/16:28
slangasekthat's the git16:28
barryxnox: clearly a rebuild alone doesn't fix it16:28
slangasekany other ideas for UOS sessions?16:28
barrycaribou: i've used it for merges and it's miles better than the old way16:28
cyphermoxdo we have anything EFI-related to discuss?16:28
slangasekI'm not sure there's anything that needs broader discussion re EFI16:29
cyphermoxjust checking, I don't think so.16:29
cyphermoxpeople tend to know to find us.16:29
slangasekok, so if no other UOS proposals...16:31
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB16:32
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB
slangasekanything else for the meeting?16:32
bdmurrayAnybody have an idea about bug 1640318?16:32
ubottubug 1640318 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "/usr/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloader:OSError:process_download_requests:/usr/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloader@305:process_download_requests:print_exc:print_exception" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164031816:32
bdmurrayprint is failing w/o an Input/output error16:33
bdmurrayShould I just put it in a try / except and not worry about an SRU test case?16:33
pittioh, running in an env where the parent process closed fd 1?16:34
bdmurrayThere are hundreds to look at in the Error Tracker16:34
barryyeah, why would fd1 get closed?16:34
barrybut stderr isn't?16:35
pittipackage-data-downloader sounds like something that would get spawned in the background, not on the CLI16:35
pittibarry: how do you know that stderr isn't?16:35
barrypitti: oh, i guess that traceback is getting printed to a file16:35
bdmurraypitti: right, its run via cron16:36
pittibarry: no, via apport handler I figure16:36
bdmurraycron.daily/update-notifier-common16:36
pittibdmurray: hm, cron should have stdout and err (to a pipe)16:37
barrybdmurray: it would probably make more sense not to print status information if there's no stdout16:37
infinityprint not flipping out if there's no stdout might also make sense. :P16:37
pittibdmurray: but ignoring IOError on print seems fine to me, there's not really anything you can do about it16:37
barrywhich i guess a try/except (or contextlib.suppress) is a brute force way of doing that16:37
infinityA user of a high-level scripting language probably shouldn't have to care.16:37
infinityBut I'd also kinda like to know the exact context in which that script doesn't have stdout.16:38
infinitySeems fishy.16:38
barryit kind of doesn't make sense for print to not flip out of there's no stdout.  although, you *could* give it an explicit file= arg and use stdout if available or os.devnull if not16:38
infinitycron should, apt should.16:38
pittiif cron dies, I'd expect a SIGPIPE, but that could just represent itself as an IOError16:39
pittimaybe your /dev/null is full16:39
slangasekA cron job certainly should have stdout, so it's a strange failure16:39
barryhmm16:39
bdmurrayOh, that reminds me of bug 161890016:40
ubottubug 1618900 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) "[Xenial/0.90] Systemd dependencies issues when used in "Shutdown mode"" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161890016:40
infinityDo we know for sure this is happening under cron, or is that wild guessing?16:40
infinitypackage-data-downloader is triggered from other places too.16:40
bdmurrayinfinity: I don't think we know its being called from cron, is there anything in the crash report that might give it away?16:41
bdmurrayhttps://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/17e726c4-a6af-11e6-a2de-fa163e19276616:41
infinityPid: 546416:41
infinityPPid: 116:41
infinityIts parent is init.16:41
infinityThat's not what I'd expect a cron job to look like.16:41
bdmurrayThere's another with Pid: 966616:42
bdmurrayPPid: 966516:42
bdmurraythough16:42
pittiTERM=xterm-256color16:43
pittithat's also not something which I'd expect from a system job/cron job16:43
bdmurrayOkay, so the decision maybe we shouldn't put the print in a try except and dig a bit deeper?16:44
pittiinfinity: double-fork/detach?16:44
infinitypitti: Yeah, but why and where? :P16:45
slangasekinfinity: what else besides cron and apt is triggering package-data-downloader?16:45
infinityslangasek: I would think only those two.  Well, I would hope.16:46
infinityAlso, I need to run to the little developers' room.16:46
slangasekbdmurray: I think it's reasonable to put it in try/except because we should be resilient in the face of fd issues, but I think we also want to dig deeper16:47
* doko reads backlog, sorry for being late16:47
barrybdmurray: yeah, i think dig a little deeper, but worse comes to worse, the try/except or contextlib.suppress is a terrible, but useful hammer16:48
slangasekdoko: hi, want to give a quick status?16:48
bdmurraywrt digging deeper is there anything to query the crashdb for?16:48
doko- prepare and test gcc-5 update for xenial (ppc64el only)16:49
doko- tracking down ld.gold arm64 ICE, ftbfs in gitit16:49
doko- track down and fix gcc-6 Linaro regression16:49
doko- merge GCC 616:49
doko- prepare and upload binutils trunk builds16:49
doko- merged tdaitx's openjdk-8 changes16:49
doko- python3.6 beta3 release16:49
doko- openjdk-9 update16:49
doko- first GCC 7 packages16:49
doko- merges, syncs ...16:49
doko(done)16:49
slangasekbdmurray: I guess you could look for similar IOErrors16:49
slangasekdoko: thanks16:49
slangasekbdmurray: if there's not an obvious way forward then it's not worth spinning wheels on, in any case16:50
slangasekjust something to keep in the back pocket, as "hey we noticed this weird thing where a script that was supposed to be running from a cronjob had no stdout, that's never supposed to happen"16:51
bdmurrayroger16:51
slangasekok, anything else?16:52
slangasek#endmeeting16:53
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Nov 10 16:53:30 2016 UTC.16:53
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-11-10-16.02.moin.txt16:53
slangasekthanks, all16:53
barrythanks!16:53
cyphermoxthanks!16:53
pittithanks everyone16:54
caribouthanks!16:54

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