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diddledananti-trump: https://twitter.com/maddowblog/status/79650957892618240002:37
diddledanhttp://imgur.com/a/OuJ3K02:52
knightwisemorning08:01
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:51
diploMorning all09:09
JamesTaitGood morning all!  Happy Thursday, and happy Sesame Street Day! 😃09:20
SuperMattNow that is a day I can get behind09:21
SuperMattBig Bird for president!09:21
zmoylan-pioscar the grouch for running the military...09:21
zmoylan-picookie monster for health09:22
SuperMattoh don't be so silly09:22
SuperMattclearly the best candidate for running the military is Grover09:22
SuperMatthttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/muppet/images/c/c1/Supergrover.jpg09:23
zmoylan-pioscar practically lives in a bunker already...09:25
davmor2JamesTait: can only be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXqMzmFSX_409:28
davmor2zmoylan-pi: he does now trump is incharge ;)09:29
zmoylan-pii hope it's roomy in there as a few more residents will be trying to get access09:29
knightwiseMorning :)09:30
* knightwise hopes interwebs are less depressing today09:32
zmoylan-pitime to break out your emergency terabyte drive of kittens...09:33
TwistedLucidityYesterday was a bit of a Hobson's choice to be honest. The best candidate got shafted by his own party09:33
foobarry"his"09:35
foobarryoh i see09:36
foobarryfrom all acounts it seems people didn't have the stomach to vote hillary even though they knew it was potentially a trump enabler by not doing so. i can understand that09:36
knightwise I think Unity Sucks , KDE is better09:37
* knightwise desperately tries to change the subject09:37
zmoylan-piemacs... the misunderstood os...09:38
knightwiseVI , the only way to Quit it is to get a girlfriend09:38
zmoylan-pinano... because you loved wordstar...09:39
knightwiseThe best linux distro is OSX09:40
zmoylan-pios/2: we haven't gone away you know...09:40
knightwiseStallman, the new Staln09:40
knightwiseStalin09:40
zmoylan-pithe nsa and gchq: proving stallman right09:41
TwistedLucidity_Ah good, my other self has finally quit09:52
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zmoylan-piwhich one has the goatee? #justaskingnoreason09:56
TwistedLucidity_It's not me with the split personality....it appears to be my network :-(10:03
zmoylan-piso... an evil network...10:03
TwistedLucidity_Meh, Windows VPN; can't get much worse10:07
zmoylan-pims bob vpn... coming soon...10:09
knightwiseTwistedLucidity_: you are just bipolar :p10:28
knightwiseor schizo10:28
TwistedLucidity_Anyone trying to run VoIP phones over Virgin Media?10:35
daftykinsmight be better to ask the actual question10:39
BigRedSI have used a VoIP phone over Virgin Media, it didn't take very much tryingf10:51
AtroStarzComplete failure to get Ubuntu mentioned on the desktop: Where is Canonical's media Dept. ?10:58
AtroStarzhttps://www.theguardian.com/technology/askjack/2016/nov/10/which-desktop-pc-should-i-buy-for-working-from-home10:58
popeyhahaha, Jack Schofield is a massive Windows fanboy.11:11
daftykinsi think the persons machine should be upgraded for cheap rather than just 'cure' it with a whole new desktop ;)11:14
popeyI didn't read it, I just know jack only writes about microsoft11:19
TwistedLucidity_SIP services seemed to go down for ~1 hour11:30
TwistedLucidity_Working now11:30
TwistedLucidity_Start spamming him: "Dear Jack, What would be the best choice for <insert GNU/Linux distro> desktop? I also want to do some gaming, so a decent GPU is a must."11:32
TwistedLucidity_In fairness to "Jack", the user seems to have specific software needs that require Windows (i.e. MS Office).11:33
TwistedLucidity_If it's professional use with plugins; no, LibreOffice will not do it.11:33
TwistedLucidity_Although in that case, why no just ask Internal IT?11:34
TwistedLucidity_Whut? "A PC is more likely to crash if it runs out of memory than if it runs out of processing power."11:34
TwistedLucidity_Oh...wait a minute....11:34
daftykinsTwistedLucidity_: well if gaming was on the cards, Linux wouldn't be the choice11:35
TwistedLucidity_popey: Is that our regular drive-by Canoncial Castigater?11:35
TwistedLucidity_daftykins: Every game I want to play runs on GNU/Linux. \o/11:35
daftykinsthen you're in the minority11:36
TwistedLucidity_I'm oppressed!11:36
daftykinswat11:36
TwistedLucidity_Rather bad semi-bad Blackadder reference11:36
popeyTwistedLucidity_: yes11:36
TwistedLucidity_IIRC more top titles are coming out with GNU/Linux support (on Steam at any rate).11:36
TwistedLucidity_popey: Ah. Explains much11:37
TwistedLucidity_Such a shame Steam boxes died a death.11:37
popeyI don't have enough time to play all the steam games I have on my linux box :)11:38
daftykinsi saw them in shops in the US, just a bit weird really11:38
popeyI have 301 games, of which 187 run on Linux.11:38
popeyYeah, I use a steam link, rather than a full steam box11:38
popeyLove the steam controllers.11:38
TwistedLucidity_I really wish I could get the time to play Kerbal.11:38
TwistedLucidity_And Trine11:38
TwistedLucidity_And Fex11:38
TwistedLucidity_And...11:39
daftykinsmmm tried one, just prefer an xbox one pad though11:39
popeyI never got into KSP11:39
popeyyeah, I like the xbox ones, but the steam one is so much better11:39
TwistedLucidity_I crash. A lot.11:39
popeyhah11:39
daftykinswell, i don't agree - also there's lacking game support11:39
TwistedLucidity_It's not at parity, but it's the chicken/egg thing.11:40
TwistedLucidity_Vulkan could put a cat amongst the pigeons /IF/ it's faster on GNU/Linunx.11:40
TwistedLucidity_Gamers hold allegance to one thing - FPS.11:40
popeyI've found every game I need works with it.11:40
daftykinswell it doesn't need to be faster, it just needs to start by being equal and widely available11:40
TwistedLucidity_It's still in development, no? And you have to wait for Unity et al to provide support too.11:41
daftykinsa Linux build you mean? no idea, all i know is i snagged the latest 'Doom' game demo which has Vulkan support in11:42
popeySpeaking of Unity.. I have been playing with that, it's fun.11:42
popeymade a little multi-player networked game11:42
TwistedLucidity_Sweet11:42
daftykinsi feel that although it enables the masses to make things, it's mostly bloated output that'd run better if done well11:43
popeynice that I can do that on Linux, and spit out Windows, Linux and OSX binaries from it11:43
daftykinsthat's quite neat11:58
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TwistedLucidity_Soooo....another story about Munich ditching F/OSS.13:39
TwistedLucidity_http://www.techrepublic.com/article/open-source-pioneer-munich-debates-report-that-suggests-abandoning-linux-for-windows-10/13:40
popeyagain?13:49
daftykinshmm, bit of a mistake to give the choice - as people will always favour the path of least resistance13:49
foobarrygithub makes it so easy to fix code in real life projects :D14:01
foobarryfor a non coder14:01
diddledanthe only thing I don't like about github is that you need to use github if you want to contribute to a project on github. e.g. you can't fork to a gitlab instance and create a PR from there back to github14:04
foobarryfair do's though14:07
diploanyone use restructured text ?15:01
diplorst format ?15:01
diddledandiplo: I've done some minor tweaks to the .net documentation which is in rst, but I don't really understand the format15:02
diploheh, I'm ok at it ( wrote a lot! ) but just wondering if I can do code stuff ie :: inside of a list15:03
diploCan't work it out atm15:03
diploso basically have 1. lots of text here and follows with an example of code inside the list ::15:03
diplohahaha found it, love it that everytime I ask for help I work it out! been looking for ages :D15:05
diddledanI find sometimes putting into words what you're struggling with can help you think of better terms to google for15:07
diddledanthere's a school of thought that you only really understand something when you are able to describe it to someone else. I think that's a similar idea..15:07
diploWell if you come across it in the future, need to double tab the code inside of the list :)15:08
diddledandavmor2: transcoding the movie worked16:05
diddledanI did it with handbrake in the end16:05
daftykinso016:05
diddledandaftykins: I had a disc that makemkv wouldn't recognise the main title from16:06
diddledanit was running at approx 113 fps, which I'm assuming is why makemkv wouldn't see it16:06
daftykinsXD16:08
daftykinswas that not a standard film then?16:08
diddledanwhich is 29.97 (base ntsc rate) * 2 (to make it ntsc field rate) * 1.916:08
diddledanit was a film, but I think the frame rate was on purpose to prevent copying16:09
kvd_awkward16:10
* kvd_ has just rendered a vid but it's massive like a few hundred meg for about 4 minutes16:10
daftykinssmells like 4K16:11
* diddledan sniffs16:12
diddledanpooo16:12
diddledanstinky16:12
davmor2diddledan: \o/ did the resultant video work though16:12
daftykinsaww yeah, ripped a bunch of music for a client again and instead of taking a drive up there, i can just SCP it to his file server direct :D yay 10Mb upload \o/16:12
diddledan`o/16:13
diddledan\o/16:13
brobostigonanyone know where i can get libwww-ssl-dev for 16.04 please. i have hit a deadend.16:13
daftykinsooh your poor arm16:13
daftykins!find libwww-ssl-dev xenial16:13
lubotu3Found: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 17 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libwww-ssl-dev&searchon=names&suite=xenial&section=all16:13
diddledanwat16:14
diddledanW: and W: and W:???16:14
daftykinsall the W16:14
brobostigonodd.16:14
diddledanbrobostigon: what package are you hoping it relates to?16:15
diddledanlibwww-perl exists16:15
diddledanafaik all libwww-* packages are perl-related16:15
brobostigoni am trying to compile https://ryzomcore.atlassian.net/wiki/display/RC/Build+Source+on+Linux and said is a dependency16:16
diddledanyeah those docs look very outdated16:20
brobostigoni cant find anyhting newer, hence me trying to work the problem out.16:21
diddledantry without the libwww dependency at all16:21
diddledani.e. try installing everything else and run the compile to see if it's missing anything16:22
brobostigongood diea, yes.16:23
brobostigonlet me try.16:23
daftykinshttp://dev.ryzom.com/boards/17/topics/197916:23
daftykinsnevermind that link is useless16:24
diddledandev.ryzom.com looks to be irrelevant too16:25
diddledanas in the whole site there16:26
diddledanseems they've moved their issue tracker to https://bitbucket.org/ryzom/ryzomcore/issues?status=new&status=open16:26
brobostigonyes.16:26
daftykinsa mate used to work at atlassian16:27
daftykinsbefore moving to the dark side permanently and *gasp* being employed by Apple16:27
brobostigonah, oh dear.16:28
daftykinsblech, natwest Guernsey making all account holders fill out CDD (client due diligence) forms16:29
diddledanwhat're they?16:29
daftykinsessentially a 10 page document where you have to tell them all the stuff they already know, like provide your identity, home address, etc16:31
daftykinsanti money laundering test exercise basically16:31
diddledanso why don't they do that to people on the mainland?16:37
daftykinswell over here we have some of the same banks as you guys, but due to the fact we're a wholly different place with different laws and outside the EU, they have to run separately16:38
daftykinsfor example, when i went to Uni i went in the nearest NatWest and was told that i could get more info out of the ATM than they could do in-branch, so i had to open an account there to do most things16:38
daftykinswas really quite the hassle16:38
diddledanI can imagine16:39
daftykinsit's kinda funny though because when NatWest UK enabled android pay a bit ago, it was auto there for me - also i see the online banking system behaves the exact same way, so they're all the same systems i'm sure16:39
daftykinsjust probably pointing to a different database server, if that16:39
diddledanit all goes to the mothership :-)16:40
brobostigona led zeppelin saized mothership :)16:45
brobostigonsized*16:45
kvd_How does it folks18:40
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davmor2It does well18:46
zmoylan-piwell apart from trump, brexit, and putin making threats to eastern europe of course...18:48
diddledanand the toblerone. damn that toblerone!18:49
popeyooh, dirt 3 free on humble bundle https://www.humblebundle.com/store/dirt-3-complete-edition-free-game18:52
kvd>.<18:59
* kvd knows nothing of the toblerone thing18:59
daftykinsdiddledan: hear hear!19:23
daftykinsor is it here here, oh well19:23
popeyaptanet: hey, about your nextcloud box, are you running the original sd card that came with it?20:43
zmoylan-pididdledan, i saw toblerones in shop today on special... sitting there like nothing was wrong...21:54

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