diddledan | anti-trump: https://twitter.com/maddowblog/status/796509578926182400 | 02:37 |
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diddledan | http://imgur.com/a/OuJ3K | 02:52 |
knightwise | morning | 08:01 |
brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:51 |
diplo | Morning all | 09:09 |
JamesTait | Good morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy Sesame Street Day! 😃 | 09:20 |
SuperMatt | Now that is a day I can get behind | 09:21 |
SuperMatt | Big Bird for president! | 09:21 |
zmoylan-pi | oscar the grouch for running the military... | 09:21 |
zmoylan-pi | cookie monster for health | 09:22 |
SuperMatt | oh don't be so silly | 09:22 |
SuperMatt | clearly the best candidate for running the military is Grover | 09:22 |
SuperMatt | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/muppet/images/c/c1/Supergrover.jpg | 09:23 |
zmoylan-pi | oscar practically lives in a bunker already... | 09:25 |
davmor2 | JamesTait: can only be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXqMzmFSX_4 | 09:28 |
davmor2 | zmoylan-pi: he does now trump is incharge ;) | 09:29 |
zmoylan-pi | i hope it's roomy in there as a few more residents will be trying to get access | 09:29 |
knightwise | Morning :) | 09:30 |
* knightwise hopes interwebs are less depressing today | 09:32 | |
zmoylan-pi | time to break out your emergency terabyte drive of kittens... | 09:33 |
TwistedLucidity | Yesterday was a bit of a Hobson's choice to be honest. The best candidate got shafted by his own party | 09:33 |
foobarry | "his" | 09:35 |
foobarry | oh i see | 09:36 |
foobarry | from all acounts it seems people didn't have the stomach to vote hillary even though they knew it was potentially a trump enabler by not doing so. i can understand that | 09:36 |
knightwise | I think Unity Sucks , KDE is better | 09:37 |
* knightwise desperately tries to change the subject | 09:37 | |
zmoylan-pi | emacs... the misunderstood os... | 09:38 |
knightwise | VI , the only way to Quit it is to get a girlfriend | 09:38 |
zmoylan-pi | nano... because you loved wordstar... | 09:39 |
knightwise | The best linux distro is OSX | 09:40 |
zmoylan-pi | os/2: we haven't gone away you know... | 09:40 |
knightwise | Stallman, the new Staln | 09:40 |
knightwise | Stalin | 09:40 |
zmoylan-pi | the nsa and gchq: proving stallman right | 09:41 |
TwistedLucidity_ | Ah good, my other self has finally quit | 09:52 |
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zmoylan-pi | which one has the goatee? #justaskingnoreason | 09:56 |
TwistedLucidity_ | It's not me with the split personality....it appears to be my network :-( | 10:03 |
zmoylan-pi | so... an evil network... | 10:03 |
TwistedLucidity_ | Meh, Windows VPN; can't get much worse | 10:07 |
zmoylan-pi | ms bob vpn... coming soon... | 10:09 |
knightwise | TwistedLucidity_: you are just bipolar :p | 10:28 |
knightwise | or schizo | 10:28 |
TwistedLucidity_ | Anyone trying to run VoIP phones over Virgin Media? | 10:35 |
daftykins | might be better to ask the actual question | 10:39 |
BigRedS | I have used a VoIP phone over Virgin Media, it didn't take very much tryingf | 10:51 |
AtroStarz | Complete failure to get Ubuntu mentioned on the desktop: Where is Canonical's media Dept. ? | 10:58 |
AtroStarz | https://www.theguardian.com/technology/askjack/2016/nov/10/which-desktop-pc-should-i-buy-for-working-from-home | 10:58 |
popey | hahaha, Jack Schofield is a massive Windows fanboy. | 11:11 |
daftykins | i think the persons machine should be upgraded for cheap rather than just 'cure' it with a whole new desktop ;) | 11:14 |
popey | I didn't read it, I just know jack only writes about microsoft | 11:19 |
TwistedLucidity_ | SIP services seemed to go down for ~1 hour | 11:30 |
TwistedLucidity_ | Working now | 11:30 |
TwistedLucidity_ | Start spamming him: "Dear Jack, What would be the best choice for <insert GNU/Linux distro> desktop? I also want to do some gaming, so a decent GPU is a must." | 11:32 |
TwistedLucidity_ | In fairness to "Jack", the user seems to have specific software needs that require Windows (i.e. MS Office). | 11:33 |
TwistedLucidity_ | If it's professional use with plugins; no, LibreOffice will not do it. | 11:33 |
TwistedLucidity_ | Although in that case, why no just ask Internal IT? | 11:34 |
TwistedLucidity_ | Whut? "A PC is more likely to crash if it runs out of memory than if it runs out of processing power." | 11:34 |
TwistedLucidity_ | Oh...wait a minute.... | 11:34 |
daftykins | TwistedLucidity_: well if gaming was on the cards, Linux wouldn't be the choice | 11:35 |
TwistedLucidity_ | popey: Is that our regular drive-by Canoncial Castigater? | 11:35 |
TwistedLucidity_ | daftykins: Every game I want to play runs on GNU/Linux. \o/ | 11:35 |
daftykins | then you're in the minority | 11:36 |
TwistedLucidity_ | I'm oppressed! | 11:36 |
daftykins | wat | 11:36 |
TwistedLucidity_ | Rather bad semi-bad Blackadder reference | 11:36 |
popey | TwistedLucidity_: yes | 11:36 |
TwistedLucidity_ | IIRC more top titles are coming out with GNU/Linux support (on Steam at any rate). | 11:36 |
TwistedLucidity_ | popey: Ah. Explains much | 11:37 |
TwistedLucidity_ | Such a shame Steam boxes died a death. | 11:37 |
popey | I don't have enough time to play all the steam games I have on my linux box :) | 11:38 |
daftykins | i saw them in shops in the US, just a bit weird really | 11:38 |
popey | I have 301 games, of which 187 run on Linux. | 11:38 |
popey | Yeah, I use a steam link, rather than a full steam box | 11:38 |
popey | Love the steam controllers. | 11:38 |
TwistedLucidity_ | I really wish I could get the time to play Kerbal. | 11:38 |
TwistedLucidity_ | And Trine | 11:38 |
TwistedLucidity_ | And Fex | 11:38 |
TwistedLucidity_ | And... | 11:39 |
daftykins | mmm tried one, just prefer an xbox one pad though | 11:39 |
popey | I never got into KSP | 11:39 |
popey | yeah, I like the xbox ones, but the steam one is so much better | 11:39 |
TwistedLucidity_ | I crash. A lot. | 11:39 |
popey | hah | 11:39 |
daftykins | well, i don't agree - also there's lacking game support | 11:39 |
TwistedLucidity_ | It's not at parity, but it's the chicken/egg thing. | 11:40 |
TwistedLucidity_ | Vulkan could put a cat amongst the pigeons /IF/ it's faster on GNU/Linunx. | 11:40 |
TwistedLucidity_ | Gamers hold allegance to one thing - FPS. | 11:40 |
popey | I've found every game I need works with it. | 11:40 |
daftykins | well it doesn't need to be faster, it just needs to start by being equal and widely available | 11:40 |
TwistedLucidity_ | It's still in development, no? And you have to wait for Unity et al to provide support too. | 11:41 |
daftykins | a Linux build you mean? no idea, all i know is i snagged the latest 'Doom' game demo which has Vulkan support in | 11:42 |
popey | Speaking of Unity.. I have been playing with that, it's fun. | 11:42 |
popey | made a little multi-player networked game | 11:42 |
TwistedLucidity_ | Sweet | 11:42 |
daftykins | i feel that although it enables the masses to make things, it's mostly bloated output that'd run better if done well | 11:43 |
popey | nice that I can do that on Linux, and spit out Windows, Linux and OSX binaries from it | 11:43 |
daftykins | that's quite neat | 11:58 |
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TwistedLucidity_ | Soooo....another story about Munich ditching F/OSS. | 13:39 |
TwistedLucidity_ | http://www.techrepublic.com/article/open-source-pioneer-munich-debates-report-that-suggests-abandoning-linux-for-windows-10/ | 13:40 |
popey | again? | 13:49 |
daftykins | hmm, bit of a mistake to give the choice - as people will always favour the path of least resistance | 13:49 |
foobarry | github makes it so easy to fix code in real life projects :D | 14:01 |
foobarry | for a non coder | 14:01 |
diddledan | the only thing I don't like about github is that you need to use github if you want to contribute to a project on github. e.g. you can't fork to a gitlab instance and create a PR from there back to github | 14:04 |
foobarry | fair do's though | 14:07 |
diplo | anyone use restructured text ? | 15:01 |
diplo | rst format ? | 15:01 |
diddledan | diplo: I've done some minor tweaks to the .net documentation which is in rst, but I don't really understand the format | 15:02 |
diplo | heh, I'm ok at it ( wrote a lot! ) but just wondering if I can do code stuff ie :: inside of a list | 15:03 |
diplo | Can't work it out atm | 15:03 |
diplo | so basically have 1. lots of text here and follows with an example of code inside the list :: | 15:03 |
diplo | hahaha found it, love it that everytime I ask for help I work it out! been looking for ages :D | 15:05 |
diddledan | I find sometimes putting into words what you're struggling with can help you think of better terms to google for | 15:07 |
diddledan | there's a school of thought that you only really understand something when you are able to describe it to someone else. I think that's a similar idea.. | 15:07 |
diplo | Well if you come across it in the future, need to double tab the code inside of the list :) | 15:08 |
diddledan | davmor2: transcoding the movie worked | 16:05 |
diddledan | I did it with handbrake in the end | 16:05 |
daftykins | o0 | 16:05 |
diddledan | daftykins: I had a disc that makemkv wouldn't recognise the main title from | 16:06 |
diddledan | it was running at approx 113 fps, which I'm assuming is why makemkv wouldn't see it | 16:06 |
daftykins | XD | 16:08 |
daftykins | was that not a standard film then? | 16:08 |
diddledan | which is 29.97 (base ntsc rate) * 2 (to make it ntsc field rate) * 1.9 | 16:08 |
diddledan | it was a film, but I think the frame rate was on purpose to prevent copying | 16:09 |
kvd_ | awkward | 16:10 |
* kvd_ has just rendered a vid but it's massive like a few hundred meg for about 4 minutes | 16:10 | |
daftykins | smells like 4K | 16:11 |
* diddledan sniffs | 16:12 | |
diddledan | pooo | 16:12 |
diddledan | stinky | 16:12 |
davmor2 | diddledan: \o/ did the resultant video work though | 16:12 |
daftykins | aww yeah, ripped a bunch of music for a client again and instead of taking a drive up there, i can just SCP it to his file server direct :D yay 10Mb upload \o/ | 16:12 |
diddledan | `o/ | 16:13 |
diddledan | \o/ | 16:13 |
brobostigon | anyone know where i can get libwww-ssl-dev for 16.04 please. i have hit a deadend. | 16:13 |
daftykins | ooh your poor arm | 16:13 |
daftykins | !find libwww-ssl-dev xenial | 16:13 |
lubotu3 | Found: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 17 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libwww-ssl-dev&searchon=names&suite=xenial§ion=all | 16:13 |
diddledan | wat | 16:14 |
diddledan | W: and W: and W:??? | 16:14 |
daftykins | all the W | 16:14 |
brobostigon | odd. | 16:14 |
diddledan | brobostigon: what package are you hoping it relates to? | 16:15 |
diddledan | libwww-perl exists | 16:15 |
diddledan | afaik all libwww-* packages are perl-related | 16:15 |
brobostigon | i am trying to compile https://ryzomcore.atlassian.net/wiki/display/RC/Build+Source+on+Linux and said is a dependency | 16:16 |
diddledan | yeah those docs look very outdated | 16:20 |
brobostigon | i cant find anyhting newer, hence me trying to work the problem out. | 16:21 |
diddledan | try without the libwww dependency at all | 16:21 |
diddledan | i.e. try installing everything else and run the compile to see if it's missing anything | 16:22 |
brobostigon | good diea, yes. | 16:23 |
brobostigon | let me try. | 16:23 |
daftykins | http://dev.ryzom.com/boards/17/topics/1979 | 16:23 |
daftykins | nevermind that link is useless | 16:24 |
diddledan | dev.ryzom.com looks to be irrelevant too | 16:25 |
diddledan | as in the whole site there | 16:26 |
diddledan | seems they've moved their issue tracker to https://bitbucket.org/ryzom/ryzomcore/issues?status=new&status=open | 16:26 |
brobostigon | yes. | 16:26 |
daftykins | a mate used to work at atlassian | 16:27 |
daftykins | before moving to the dark side permanently and *gasp* being employed by Apple | 16:27 |
brobostigon | ah, oh dear. | 16:28 |
daftykins | blech, natwest Guernsey making all account holders fill out CDD (client due diligence) forms | 16:29 |
diddledan | what're they? | 16:29 |
daftykins | essentially a 10 page document where you have to tell them all the stuff they already know, like provide your identity, home address, etc | 16:31 |
daftykins | anti money laundering test exercise basically | 16:31 |
diddledan | so why don't they do that to people on the mainland? | 16:37 |
daftykins | well over here we have some of the same banks as you guys, but due to the fact we're a wholly different place with different laws and outside the EU, they have to run separately | 16:38 |
daftykins | for example, when i went to Uni i went in the nearest NatWest and was told that i could get more info out of the ATM than they could do in-branch, so i had to open an account there to do most things | 16:38 |
daftykins | was really quite the hassle | 16:38 |
diddledan | I can imagine | 16:39 |
daftykins | it's kinda funny though because when NatWest UK enabled android pay a bit ago, it was auto there for me - also i see the online banking system behaves the exact same way, so they're all the same systems i'm sure | 16:39 |
daftykins | just probably pointing to a different database server, if that | 16:39 |
diddledan | it all goes to the mothership :-) | 16:40 |
brobostigon | a led zeppelin saized mothership :) | 16:45 |
brobostigon | sized* | 16:45 |
kvd_ | How does it folks | 18:40 |
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davmor2 | It does well | 18:46 |
zmoylan-pi | well apart from trump, brexit, and putin making threats to eastern europe of course... | 18:48 |
diddledan | and the toblerone. damn that toblerone! | 18:49 |
popey | ooh, dirt 3 free on humble bundle https://www.humblebundle.com/store/dirt-3-complete-edition-free-game | 18:52 |
kvd | >.< | 18:59 |
* kvd knows nothing of the toblerone thing | 18:59 | |
daftykins | diddledan: hear hear! | 19:23 |
daftykins | or is it here here, oh well | 19:23 |
popey | aptanet: hey, about your nextcloud box, are you running the original sd card that came with it? | 20:43 |
zmoylan-pi | diddledan, i saw toblerones in shop today on special... sitting there like nothing was wrong... | 21:54 |
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