[02:37] anti-trump: https://twitter.com/maddowblog/status/796509578926182400 [02:52] http://imgur.com/a/OuJ3K [08:01] morning [08:51] morning boys and girls. [09:09] Morning all [09:20] Good morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy Sesame Street Day! 😃 [09:21] Now that is a day I can get behind [09:21] Big Bird for president! [09:21] oscar the grouch for running the military... [09:22] cookie monster for health [09:22] oh don't be so silly [09:22] clearly the best candidate for running the military is Grover [09:23] http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/muppet/images/c/c1/Supergrover.jpg [09:25] oscar practically lives in a bunker already... [09:28] JamesTait: can only be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXqMzmFSX_4 [09:29] zmoylan-pi: he does now trump is incharge ;) [09:29] i hope it's roomy in there as a few more residents will be trying to get access [09:30] Morning :) [09:32] * knightwise hopes interwebs are less depressing today [09:33] time to break out your emergency terabyte drive of kittens... [09:33] Yesterday was a bit of a Hobson's choice to be honest. The best candidate got shafted by his own party [09:35] "his" [09:36] oh i see [09:36] from all acounts it seems people didn't have the stomach to vote hillary even though they knew it was potentially a trump enabler by not doing so. i can understand that [09:37] I think Unity Sucks , KDE is better [09:37] * knightwise desperately tries to change the subject [09:38] emacs... the misunderstood os... [09:38] VI , the only way to Quit it is to get a girlfriend [09:39] nano... because you loved wordstar... [09:40] The best linux distro is OSX [09:40] os/2: we haven't gone away you know... [09:40] Stallman, the new Staln [09:40] Stalin [09:41] the nsa and gchq: proving stallman right [09:52] Ah good, my other self has finally quit === Darkstar is now known as Guest20206 [09:56] which one has the goatee? #justaskingnoreason [10:03] It's not me with the split personality....it appears to be my network :-( [10:03] so... an evil network... [10:07] Meh, Windows VPN; can't get much worse [10:09] ms bob vpn... coming soon... [10:28] TwistedLucidity_: you are just bipolar :p [10:28] or schizo [10:35] Anyone trying to run VoIP phones over Virgin Media? [10:39] might be better to ask the actual question [10:51] I have used a VoIP phone over Virgin Media, it didn't take very much tryingf [10:58] Complete failure to get Ubuntu mentioned on the desktop: Where is Canonical's media Dept. ? [10:58] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/askjack/2016/nov/10/which-desktop-pc-should-i-buy-for-working-from-home [11:11] hahaha, Jack Schofield is a massive Windows fanboy. [11:14] i think the persons machine should be upgraded for cheap rather than just 'cure' it with a whole new desktop ;) [11:19] I didn't read it, I just know jack only writes about microsoft [11:30] SIP services seemed to go down for ~1 hour [11:30] Working now [11:32] Start spamming him: "Dear Jack, What would be the best choice for desktop? I also want to do some gaming, so a decent GPU is a must." [11:33] In fairness to "Jack", the user seems to have specific software needs that require Windows (i.e. MS Office). [11:33] If it's professional use with plugins; no, LibreOffice will not do it. [11:34] Although in that case, why no just ask Internal IT? [11:34] Whut? "A PC is more likely to crash if it runs out of memory than if it runs out of processing power." [11:34] Oh...wait a minute.... [11:35] TwistedLucidity_: well if gaming was on the cards, Linux wouldn't be the choice [11:35] popey: Is that our regular drive-by Canoncial Castigater? [11:35] daftykins: Every game I want to play runs on GNU/Linux. \o/ [11:36] then you're in the minority [11:36] I'm oppressed! [11:36] wat [11:36] Rather bad semi-bad Blackadder reference [11:36] TwistedLucidity_: yes [11:36] IIRC more top titles are coming out with GNU/Linux support (on Steam at any rate). [11:37] popey: Ah. Explains much [11:37] Such a shame Steam boxes died a death. [11:38] I don't have enough time to play all the steam games I have on my linux box :) [11:38] i saw them in shops in the US, just a bit weird really [11:38] I have 301 games, of which 187 run on Linux. [11:38] Yeah, I use a steam link, rather than a full steam box [11:38] Love the steam controllers. [11:38] I really wish I could get the time to play Kerbal. [11:38] And Trine [11:38] And Fex [11:39] And... [11:39] mmm tried one, just prefer an xbox one pad though [11:39] I never got into KSP [11:39] yeah, I like the xbox ones, but the steam one is so much better [11:39] I crash. A lot. [11:39] hah [11:39] well, i don't agree - also there's lacking game support [11:40] It's not at parity, but it's the chicken/egg thing. [11:40] Vulkan could put a cat amongst the pigeons /IF/ it's faster on GNU/Linunx. [11:40] Gamers hold allegance to one thing - FPS. [11:40] I've found every game I need works with it. [11:40] well it doesn't need to be faster, it just needs to start by being equal and widely available [11:41] It's still in development, no? And you have to wait for Unity et al to provide support too. [11:42] a Linux build you mean? no idea, all i know is i snagged the latest 'Doom' game demo which has Vulkan support in [11:42] Speaking of Unity.. I have been playing with that, it's fun. [11:42] made a little multi-player networked game [11:42] Sweet [11:43] i feel that although it enables the masses to make things, it's mostly bloated output that'd run better if done well [11:43] nice that I can do that on Linux, and spit out Windows, Linux and OSX binaries from it [11:58] that's quite neat === marcus is now known as Guest65175 [13:39] Soooo....another story about Munich ditching F/OSS. [13:40] http://www.techrepublic.com/article/open-source-pioneer-munich-debates-report-that-suggests-abandoning-linux-for-windows-10/ [13:49] again? [13:49] hmm, bit of a mistake to give the choice - as people will always favour the path of least resistance [14:01] github makes it so easy to fix code in real life projects :D [14:01] for a non coder [14:04] the only thing I don't like about github is that you need to use github if you want to contribute to a project on github. e.g. you can't fork to a gitlab instance and create a PR from there back to github [14:07] fair do's though [15:01] anyone use restructured text ? [15:01] rst format ? [15:02] diplo: I've done some minor tweaks to the .net documentation which is in rst, but I don't really understand the format [15:03] heh, I'm ok at it ( wrote a lot! ) but just wondering if I can do code stuff ie :: inside of a list [15:03] Can't work it out atm [15:03] so basically have 1. lots of text here and follows with an example of code inside the list :: [15:05] hahaha found it, love it that everytime I ask for help I work it out! been looking for ages :D [15:07] I find sometimes putting into words what you're struggling with can help you think of better terms to google for [15:07] there's a school of thought that you only really understand something when you are able to describe it to someone else. I think that's a similar idea.. [15:08] Well if you come across it in the future, need to double tab the code inside of the list :) [16:05] davmor2: transcoding the movie worked [16:05] I did it with handbrake in the end [16:05] o0 [16:06] daftykins: I had a disc that makemkv wouldn't recognise the main title from [16:06] it was running at approx 113 fps, which I'm assuming is why makemkv wouldn't see it [16:08] XD [16:08] was that not a standard film then? [16:08] which is 29.97 (base ntsc rate) * 2 (to make it ntsc field rate) * 1.9 [16:09] it was a film, but I think the frame rate was on purpose to prevent copying [16:10] awkward [16:10] * kvd_ has just rendered a vid but it's massive like a few hundred meg for about 4 minutes [16:11] smells like 4K [16:12] * diddledan sniffs [16:12] pooo [16:12] stinky [16:12] diddledan: \o/ did the resultant video work though [16:12] aww yeah, ripped a bunch of music for a client again and instead of taking a drive up there, i can just SCP it to his file server direct :D yay 10Mb upload \o/ [16:13] `o/ [16:13] \o/ [16:13] anyone know where i can get libwww-ssl-dev for 16.04 please. i have hit a deadend. [16:13] ooh your poor arm [16:13] !find libwww-ssl-dev xenial [16:13] Found: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 17 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libwww-ssl-dev&searchon=names&suite=xenial§ion=all [16:14] wat [16:14] W: and W: and W:??? [16:14] all the W [16:14] odd. [16:15] brobostigon: what package are you hoping it relates to? [16:15] libwww-perl exists [16:15] afaik all libwww-* packages are perl-related [16:16] i am trying to compile https://ryzomcore.atlassian.net/wiki/display/RC/Build+Source+on+Linux and said is a dependency [16:20] yeah those docs look very outdated [16:21] i cant find anyhting newer, hence me trying to work the problem out. [16:21] try without the libwww dependency at all [16:22] i.e. try installing everything else and run the compile to see if it's missing anything [16:23] good diea, yes. [16:23] let me try. [16:23] http://dev.ryzom.com/boards/17/topics/1979 [16:24] nevermind that link is useless [16:25] dev.ryzom.com looks to be irrelevant too [16:26] as in the whole site there [16:26] seems they've moved their issue tracker to https://bitbucket.org/ryzom/ryzomcore/issues?status=new&status=open [16:26] yes. [16:27] a mate used to work at atlassian [16:27] before moving to the dark side permanently and *gasp* being employed by Apple [16:28] ah, oh dear. [16:29] blech, natwest Guernsey making all account holders fill out CDD (client due diligence) forms [16:29] what're they? [16:31] essentially a 10 page document where you have to tell them all the stuff they already know, like provide your identity, home address, etc [16:31] anti money laundering test exercise basically [16:37] so why don't they do that to people on the mainland? [16:38] well over here we have some of the same banks as you guys, but due to the fact we're a wholly different place with different laws and outside the EU, they have to run separately [16:38] for example, when i went to Uni i went in the nearest NatWest and was told that i could get more info out of the ATM than they could do in-branch, so i had to open an account there to do most things [16:38] was really quite the hassle [16:39] I can imagine [16:39] it's kinda funny though because when NatWest UK enabled android pay a bit ago, it was auto there for me - also i see the online banking system behaves the exact same way, so they're all the same systems i'm sure [16:39] just probably pointing to a different database server, if that [16:40] it all goes to the mothership :-) [16:45] a led zeppelin saized mothership :) [16:45] sized* [18:40] How does it folks === kvd_ is now known as kvd [18:46] It does well [18:48] well apart from trump, brexit, and putin making threats to eastern europe of course... [18:49] and the toblerone. damn that toblerone! [18:52] ooh, dirt 3 free on humble bundle https://www.humblebundle.com/store/dirt-3-complete-edition-free-game [18:59] >.< [18:59] * kvd knows nothing of the toblerone thing [19:23] diddledan: hear hear! [19:23] or is it here here, oh well [20:43] aptanet: hey, about your nextcloud box, are you running the original sd card that came with it? [21:54] diddledan, i saw toblerones in shop today on special... sitting there like nothing was wrong...