[00:00] <Lostfile> and pack it into a iso
[00:00] <CaptainQuirk> initial account, password, partitions, keyboard layout, additional packages to install
[00:00] <Lostfile> yes
[00:00] <CaptainQuirk> Lostfile, I was not answering your question but it seems we're actually asking for something similar
[00:01] <CaptainQuirk> I would answer you : preseeding
[00:01] <CaptainQuirk> but I have no idea how to make it work for the moment
[00:01] <kk4ewt> Lostfile,  in the fedora world yes, ubuntu no idea
[00:01] <Lostfile> oh
[00:01] <Lostfile> i shall google or duck duck go it
[00:03] <clownfishhuman> CaptainQuirk: I don't know of such a tool or if it exists. What distro? Is there a reason you cant just configure it upon installation?
[00:03] <CaptainQuirk> Lostfile, good luck with that
[00:03] <Lostfile> k
[00:04] <Lostfile> there should be a tool or somthing out there i could use for it
[00:05] <Lostfile> this tool could help eh im not to sure
[00:05] <Lostfile> https://youtu.be/IVzrugIMLsA
[00:07] <Lostfile> eh i would not trust it
[00:13] <CaptainQuirk> Lostfile, the ubuntu-builder command is not available
[00:14] <astudent> does anyone knows if i can force my scanner to scan papers in the return phase?
[00:15] <Lostfile> meh the video is a bit dated i dont think it will work any more
[00:19] <astudent> does anyone knows if i can force my scanner to scan papers in the return phase?
[00:23] <btoneyo> this grp can help with ubuntu on phone ?
[00:24] <bazhang> !touch | btoneyo
[00:25] <btoneyo> thanks for help bazhang
[00:25] <clownfishhuman> Running 16.10, wacom tablet works, but I cant change any settings in ubuntu settings. It says no tablet is connected
[00:30] <FireStriker> Hey
[00:30] <peyam> hi. The latex autocompletation on latexila doesnt work anymore. Running ubuntu 16.04
[00:30] <peyam> anyone with similar problem?
[00:34] <FireStriker> I have a old 2007/8 Toshiba laptop with a Pentium dual core 1.86/87GHz with 2gb of ram(max) which I want to install a ubuntu onto. Which would be the best one for my laptop.
[00:36] <FireStriker> I also what to know a little more about the desktop environments
[00:36] <FireStriker> How they work and what's the difference
[00:36] <peyam> lubuntu
[00:36] <peyam> or xubuntu
[00:36] <FireStriker> What's the difference with lubuntu and x ubuntu?
[00:37] <peyam> different DE
[00:37] <peyam> Lubuntu reqiures less
[00:37] <FireStriker> Ok
[00:38] <FireStriker> Is there a dock I can install for lubuntu like ubuntu?
[00:38] <peyam> yes ofcourse
[00:38] <FireStriker> Cool
[00:38] <peyam> plank is the popular one. you can install anything you want.
[00:38] <FireStriker> Ok the master question is LTS or the new One
[00:39] <peyam> always LTS
[00:39] <FireStriker> The new one has 9 months support right?
[00:39] <FireStriker> Ok
[00:39] <kk4ewt> lxde or xfce desktop environments
[00:39] <peyam> I dont know. I only use LTS
[00:42] <gosnh23> modprobe: FATAL: Module nvidia-uvm not found in directory /lib/modules/4.4.0-45-generic
[00:42] <gosnh23> what does this mean
[00:43] <Bashing-om> gosnh23: Well, kernel 4.4.0-45-generic not fully installed ? Out of disk space the issue here ? ' df -h ' to know that status .
[00:44] <gosnh23> nope ive space
[00:45] <gosnh23> it was working few hours ago
[00:46] <annakamilla> hi
[00:48] <annakamilla> my laptop it is problems on chip graphics
[00:53] <annakamilla> this laptop is locking at the unity
[00:53] <FireStriker> I also have a dieing hp laptop which is a amd a6 quad core (2ghz turbo that it doesn't hit due to something braking) I'm going to use win 8 as the base operating system idk if I should do a duel boot of ubuntu or Debian or steamos as the dual boot. I will manly beuseing the Linux dual boot for games
[00:54] <FireStriker> 4gb ram btw
[00:54] <sunrunner20> my xubuntu VM locked up mid upgrade and now it boots to CLI and eth0 is gone, any suggestions on how to resume the upgrade or do I have another trashed VM?
[00:54] <FireStriker> Amd graphic card
[00:55] <sunrunner20> sudo go-do-upgrade or whaterver says i'm on the current version
[00:55] <annakamilla> my laptop it is a pentium dualcore intel
[00:55] <sunrunner20> sudo do-release-upgrade
[00:55] <annakamilla> my version this 16.04
[00:56] <sunrunner20> 16.04.1 for me
[01:00] <annakamilla> my ubuntu is this 16.40.1
[01:01] <doctormon> annakamilla: it must be 16.04, there's no 40th month of the year.
[01:02] <kbob> really?
[01:02] <doctormon> kbob: really
[01:03]  * wedgie throws out his faulty calendar
[01:03] <annakamilla> doctormon: yes
[01:03] <annakamilla> doctormon: I typed wrong
[01:05] <doctormon> annakamilla: Do you have an issue? I wasn't here if you typed beforehand
[01:06] <annakamilla> yes, my laptop video graphics is crashed
[01:08] <doctormon> annakamilla: Has this just happened recently? Did it ever work in the past? Did it work with this version in the past?
[01:09] <annakamilla> yes, my laptop
[01:09] <doctormon> annakamilla: Three questions, which one is yes?
[01:09] <annakamilla> yes, my laptop was recently formatted
[01:10] <doctormon> What was installed before annakamilla?
[01:11] <annakamilla> my laptop
[01:11] <annakamilla> My notebook already had this version but I had to format it
[01:11] <sabrehagen> My keymappings are failing. Here's a success and failed output from xev. In the successful case i'm seeing KeymapNotify events. What are these events, and what causes them not to fire sometimes? https://gist.github.com/sabrehagen/b86d9c20ee7d0cc8b2b6ec25fe05ac29
[01:13] <annakamilla> sabrehagen:
[01:13] <annakamilla> Look when you start to give these faults is time to make the switch
[01:14] <sabrehagen> annakamilla: switch to?
[01:15] <annakamilla> doctormon:
[01:15] <annakamilla> I uninstalled the previous kernel, it may be the one that is giving trouble, I'm waiting to see.
[01:17] <annakamilla> sabrehagen: i speak to change the keyboard
[01:18] <colt> I have just completed a new installation of ubuntu from ubuntu using debootstrap. Sadly, it does not boot. I suspect the cause may be missing modules. How can I check if this is the problem?
[01:19] <annakamilla> sabrehagen
[01:19] <annakamilla> My notebook had this problem with keys that stopped working and had to put an external keyboard.
[01:22] <annakamilla> colt
[01:23]  * kbob : there's no 40th month of the year... I give up
[01:23] <colt> annakamilla: Yes?
[01:23] <funkyjive> hey guys, trying this http://askubuntu.com/questions/320121/simple-port-forwarding on my machine using # iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d 192.168.1.3 --dport 8080 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.1.1:80
[01:23] <funkyjive> and I added the masquerade command
[01:23] <funkyjive> but the port doesn't seem to be forwarded
[01:23] <annakamilla> colt
[01:24] <annakamilla> Try chrooting with an installation cd and reinstalling the kernel with the kernel-headers
[01:24] <funkyjive> telnet 192.168.1.3 8080 yields connection refused
[01:24] <funkyjive> even though 192.168.1.1 is alive
[01:24] <funkyjive> what can I possibly be missing?
[01:25] <funkyjive> I see the pre and post routing policies in #iptables -t nat -L -n
[01:30] <th0r> funkyjive, can you get direct to 1.1:80?
[01:31] <annakamilla> i'm going sleep
[01:32] <FireStriker> I don't know where this goes but I have a hp AMD a6 (2GHz boost) quad core 4gb laptop. I'm planing to have Win 8 as the base os and have a Linux dual boot . Which Linux os do you think I should use for gaming? Ubuntu, Deben or streamOS
[01:35] <funkyjive> th0r: I can ...
[01:35] <funkyjive> th0r: I just realized, I think this only works if I go from a machine outside ....
[01:37] <funkyjive> th0r:  If I access 192.168.1.3:8080 from a different machine (i.e. not on 192.168.1.3) it works ...
[01:38] <funkyjive> th0r: it must not be going through the PREROUTING chain when the connection originates from the local host ...
[01:39] <th0r> funkyjive, I am just getting started with iptables myself. It is an interesting learning curve.
[01:40] <funkyjive> th0r: I used it a long time ago ... I used ipchains and then I was around when iptables first started .... and then a big gap.   so some of these things trip me up.  :)   best of luck to you and thank you for sharing your mind with my problem.
[01:40] <TolerateNationsE> hi, i'm using ubuntu 16.04.1 and my internet speed is very slow on ubuntu, it was slow on linux mint as well which is based on ubuntu. but my speed is very fast in windows.
[01:41] <th0r> funkyjive, sounds like you and I fought on the same battleground :)
[01:41] <funkyjive> th0r:  :)  nice.
[01:42] <funkyjive> TolerateNationsE:  what measure are you using to determine "slow"  ?   is this a bandwidth meter like speedtest.net ?
[01:42] <colt> What are the "extra" modules included in the linux-image-extra family of packages?
[01:42] <FireStriker> What internet browser do you use on ubuntu TolerateNationsE ?
[01:44] <TolerateNationsE> FireStriker, funkyjive, i just download vlc player on windows, its speed in firefox was nearly 3MB/s , used the same link to download on linux firefox and speed don't go above 470Kb/s, also tried some good torrents and speed don't go to even 500Kb/s in linux
[01:44] <TolerateNationsE> also used chrome, and xtreme download manager
[01:45] <FireStriker> Ok
[01:45] <funkyjive> TolerateNationsE: do you have comcast and some kind of proprietary software on windows that accelerates things ?     or is this just a regular ethernet connection ?
[01:46] <TolerateNationsE> also tried to change my dns to opendns and disabled ipv6 in edit connection. but no success
[01:46] <TolerateNationsE> funkyjive, just a regular connection. nothing important install in win and also in linux, both are fresh, dual booting
[01:47] <TolerateNationsE> i came from linux mint because of this problem, but its the same in ubuntu too
[01:47] <funkyjive> TolerateNationsE:  I suspect it is not software but configuration
[01:47] <FireStriker> Same
[01:48] <funkyjive> TolerateNationsE: is this the only machine on the network aside from your internet router?
[01:49] <binarydepth> how can I call ircII via terminal and have it connect to Freenode ?
[01:50] <TolerateNationsE> funkyjive, at this time yes, this is the only machine using my internet connection
[01:53] <th0r> TolerateNationsE, often the NIC manufacturer is less than forthcoming about the specifics of the NIC.
[01:53] <TolerateNationsE> i also tried a fix from internet where someone suggested to change file /etc/gai.conf and remove # from the line #precedence ::ffff:0:0/96 100 , but no success.
[01:54] <th0r> he result is that the drivers have to be "reverse engineered". Considering using a different NIC to see if performance improves
[01:54] <TolerateNationsE> th0r, i have two wireless lan cards, although currently i'm using pci realtek wlan card but i also have tested this behavior on my usb wlan card
[01:54] <funkyjive> TolerateNationsE: lspci | grep -i Ethernet
[01:54] <funkyjive> TolerateNationsE: is this a wireless network connection?
[01:55] <TolerateNationsE> funkyjive, yes, wifi
[01:55] <TolerateNationsE> 06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5761 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 10)
[01:55] <TolerateNationsE> 07:04.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 20)
[01:55] <funkyjive> ahh ...  that sounds like either drivers or the way the software sets up the wireless card.
[01:56] <th0r> TolerateNationsE, make sure linux is using the same wireless channel that windows chooses.
[01:56] <funkyjive> th0r: good suggestions ....
[01:57] <funkyjive> there is an app you can get on your phone that helps you identify the best wifi channels to use for your area
[01:57] <funkyjive> Netgear made it I think.
[01:57] <fn2> only issue is areas where there is a lot of wifi
[01:57] <funkyjive> it shows how many networks are on which channels.
[01:57] <funkyjive> right.
[01:57] <th0r> I think wifi-radar is available for linux
[01:57] <fn2> I am in an area with 100+ wifi and no channel is free (middle of the city) *sighs*
[01:58] <funkyjive> fn2 but there is probably one that is less congested than the others still ...
[01:58] <funkyjive> even if it is marginal.
[01:58] <fn2> less than a fraction of a percent maybe
[01:59] <th0r> fn2, I bet if you looked you would find some channels much less crowded than others
[01:59] <fn2> on 2.5 nope, 5 ghz has the least congested channels.
[01:59] <TolerateNationsE> funkyjive, th0r, it has been more than 3 months that i am having this issue on linux mint 18, and tolerating it, in different times and diferent scenarios, it's not a problem that i am having just now. i have done many things apart from highly technical things, but results are same. my wifi router selects the best channel that is not available in area. and also my area don't have much wifi signals, i see only two wifi, 1 is mine and one anopther.
[02:00] <th0r> fn2, also, in an effort to minimize congestion the US  only uses three or four....attempting to keep from overlapping
[02:01] <TolerateNationsE> funkyjive, th0r, let me show u my another card, i might get dc, wait for me i will be back
[02:03] <FireStriker> What software is there for riping DVDs?
[02:03] <TolerateNationsE> funkyjive, i have attached my another wireless card to usb, but somehow it's not appearing in that command you gave me
[02:04] <FireStriker> I would like to back up my DVDs to the computer so I can watch them without a disc drive
[02:07] <TolerateNationsE> that slow internet problem is so vast on internet, too many people have it, why devs not solve it?
[02:07] <RatchetTheGamer> Where's the best place to talk about Linux and Linux gaming?
[02:08] <TolerateNationsE> i only use windows for gaming, no internet, but on linux internet is mysteriously slow :(
[02:09] <th0r> TolerateNationsE, in all fairness, data is slow for the same reason traffic is slow. There are so many possible bottlenecks, both inside and outside the computer.
[02:10] <TolerateNationsE> th0r, i can 100% surely say it's a linux prob, coz i'm having it for couple of months, tried many solutions but could not get my speed above 500kb/s in linux, at the same time whenever i go to windows i get more than 2MB/s always
[02:11] <TolerateNationsE> on the same wifi connection with same wlan cards
[02:12] <th0r> TolerateNationsE, I didn't mean I doubt you. My experience has been similar. I was just pointing out that it is difficult to point to one thing and ask a dev to fix it.
[02:15] <TolerateNationsE> th0r, yes, but there could be a way to determine this issue. what if i go to market and buy another wifi card and still don't get my speeds, and waste my money, i never used ubuntu before but i used linux mint 18 and previous versions which was based on ubuntu 14.4, and now on linux mint 18 my speed is slow but on previous versions my speed was good
[02:18] <th0r> TolerateNationsE, if you are getting the same results with two adapters, that use different chip sets, than I would start looking elsewhere. First I would take a look at channel assignments. I use something called Wifi Overview 360 on an android tablet.
[02:19] <th0r> I would also watch the signal strength. I once had an issue at a marina. Turned out one of the boats had its radar running...every sweep the wifi signal would take a nosedive
[02:21] <th0r> First thought, of course, is the wifi driver in linux. But if you have tried two different chipsets (drivers) than I would look elsewhere
[02:22] <gregoirenoire> hello world!
[02:22] <TolerateNationsE> th0r, haha yes it happens, but i'm a cisco student and i have read these basic problems and went through them, it's not about that, because many times i quickly switched from linux to windows to download something which was not getting good speeds but they got good speeds in windows. but may be my both wifi adapters have same chip? its not likely but it could be
[02:22] <TolerateNationsE> th0r, how can i see that? any command ?
[02:23] <gregoirenoire> I recently apt dist-ugpraded my ubuntu 16.10 box and now my default user fails to login.
[02:23] <gregoirenoire> I am getting this error message:
[02:23] <gregoirenoire> WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to device scanning .
[02:24] <th0r> TolerateNationsE, easiest...check what modules each is using. If they use the same kernel modules...try another. Also, lshw should show the chipset I think
[02:25] <TolerateNationsE> th0r, i just attached my second wifi card, but it does not appear in that command, but it has detected as a wifi device and getting signals, do i have to restart pc to show it in that command?
[02:25] <gregoirenoire> I am getting this error message when logging in as my default user: "Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to device scanning ." It then drops to a login session where I can only login as guest (and cannot get root priveleges)
[02:26] <gregoirenoire> any idea what I can do?!
[02:26] <th0r> TolerateNationsE, try lsusb. I haven't messed much with those commands so not sure
[02:26] <gregoirenoire> I know my files are still there and I can drop to root terminal using grub advanced options, but I can't get networking to work.
[02:26] <gregoirenoire> can anybody please help? :(
[02:30] <edve> Is it listed into lspci ?
[02:30] <TolerateNationsE> gregoirenoire, just wait, someone who know your problem will answer you
[02:31] <TolerateNationsE> edve, no it's not listed in lspci and also not in lsusb, i just attached it
[02:32] <edve> TolerateNationsE: not even after a reboot ?
[02:32] <TolerateNationsE> edve, i have not restarted pc yet. should i?
[02:32] <th0r> TolerateNationsE, this is old school, but I still use it. open a terminal, sudo tail -f /var/log/messages, plug in the adapter and see what goes in the log
[02:33] <TolerateNationsE> i am going to restart anyway, wait for me, i will be back
[02:33] <edve> Thats the best thing to do
[02:33] <TolerateNationsE> don't say anything about me until i come back :P
[02:39] <doctorly> Helo. I am having a really hard time getting a thinkpad t40 wirless card working. It times out on authentication every time. Also, the wired connection always says 'unplugged'. If I can get either of these to work I will be golden!
[02:41] <TolerateNationsE> edve, funkyjive, ok i have restarted and my new card is not appearing yet in lspci
[02:41] <disanv> gregoirenoire: I assume you use LVM. Do you encrypt your drive? Have you done anything special before getting this message (grub update, kernel update)?
[02:41] <th0r> TolerateNationsE, lshw? also, demsg | grep rtl
[02:42] <th0r> if you have a realtek chipset that would explain a lot
[02:44] <TolerateNationsE> th0r, lshw shows a lot of things
[02:44] <TolerateNationsE> my another usb card appears in wifi menu as RaLink
[02:45] <TolerateNationsE> lsusb
[02:45] <TolerateNationsE> sorry
[02:45] <th0r> TolerateNationsE, try lshw |grep network, or grep rtl
[02:46] <TolerateNationsE> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 148f:5370 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT5370 Wireless Adapter
[02:47] <TolerateNationsE> funkyjive, th0r, i think i am getting speeds now on my Ralink :)
[02:48] <TolerateNationsE> same vlc player speeds up to 2MB/s now, ah, why didn't i try this wifi card before :D, so it's a problem of realtek card
[02:49] <th0r> TolerateNationsE, found this...might help...https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=960642
[02:49] <th0r> TolerateNationsE, realtek has always been a problem.
[02:50] <TolerateNationsE> th0r, on this card i am getting good speeds, let me check torrent now, and thank you so much for helping,
[02:51] <investigator-nai> hi
[02:51] <th0r> TolerateNationsE, glad you got it worked out.
[02:52] <TolerateNationsE> i am also having problem with keyboard, i have encrypted full disk, and installed nvidia driver for my gtx 970  card, so on startup when try to enter password keyboard goes unresponsive, so i have to do a workaround to go in recovery mode first then enter password then resume normal boot, do you know of a better fix for that?
[02:53] <th0r> TolerateNationsE, can't help with that one...sorry
[02:55] <ubuntu290> Ubuntu noobie here. Anyone there that can help me connect to Internet via Ethernet ?
[02:55] <TolerateNationsE> may be someone else could. it started after i installed nvidia driver, i have searched internet but could not find
[02:56] <TolerateNationsE> ubuntu290, what problem are you facing?
[02:57] <ubuntu290> The area to connect is all grey I need helping setting up the connection for the first time
[02:57] <th0r> those nvidia drivers seem to be the curse of the week. I am glad I took the easy way out...everything these days is raspberry pi and android
[02:57] <ubuntu290> I thought it would automatically do it but maybe I installed it wrong. It worked fine on live
[02:57] <EventHorizon> morning...  any ideas why desktop is sometimes booting to tty1 instead of tty7???
[02:58] <ubuntu290> I am somewhat familiar with terminal
[02:59] <th0r> EventHorizon, unless they have changed it all....you log into tty1 and the gui for tty1 is tty7
[02:59] <TolerateNationsE> ubuntu290, did it work fine on line? then it should work fine on installed too. i am a noobie too, but what do you see in connection information? does it pick up your ip?
[02:59] <TolerateNationsE> ubuntu290, is enable networking on?
[03:00] <ubuntu290> What you mean connection information ? How do I find that
[03:00] <ubuntu290> Yes enable networking is on
[03:00] <TolerateNationsE> ubuntu290, so ethernet is grayed out?
[03:01] <ubuntu290> Yes
[03:01] <TolerateNationsE> check your cables ?
[03:02] <ubuntu290> problem solved very loose connection
[03:02] <EventHorizon> thor> on duel boot i select linux that will 90% of the time boot to GUI but periodically boot to  command - its easy to launch to GUI (Shift F7) but curious to know why it is going down that avenue
[03:02] <ubuntu290> Thanks.
[03:02] <ubuntu290> You the man
[03:03] <TolerateNationsE> haha too easy fix :)
[03:04] <th0r> EventHorizon, it sounds like sometimes startx isn't working. if x doesn't start you will fall to the cli at tty1. check dmesg when it fails for hints as to what went wrong.
[03:05] <ubuntu290> Well wait a sec. it lit up and Ethernet isn't grey but still no internet working
[03:06] <th0r> ubuntu290, did you get an ip address?
[03:06] <TolerateNationsE> ubuntu290, now it's time to see what is in your "Connection Information" ? does it pick your ip address?
[03:06] <ubuntu290> Yes
[03:06] <th0r> great minds
[03:07] <th0r> ubuntu290, try to ping the router or another computer on the network
[03:08] <ubuntu290> Is that a terminal command ? Ping xxx.xxx.x.xxx
 sounds logical - thanks for your help.  Will look in var/logs/...
[03:09] <TolerateNationsE> ubuntu290, yes, its a terminal command, and what ip did you get in connection information? and default route?
[03:09] <Jlye> Feedback on this post, anyone? http://golivelively.com/2016/11/07/distrohopping/
[03:09] <th0r> yes. if your ip is, for instance, 192.168.1.100.....try ping 192.168.1.1 in a terminal
[03:10] <ubuntu290>  192.168.one.250
[03:10] <ubuntu290>  192.168.one.254
[03:10] <TolerateNationsE> ubuntu290, yes, ping 192.168.1.1
[03:11] <Guy1524> hey guys, I asked this earlier, but nobody was able to provide me w/ an answer earlier.  After running software updater, (apt upgrade), my ironlake 520M laptop w/ integrated graphics is in software rendering mode
[03:11] <ubuntu290> 56 bytes of data
[03:11] <Guy1524> this is from glxinfo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23459158/
[03:12] <Guy1524> I did install some weird wine nine ppa a while ago
[03:12] <TolerateNationsE> ubuntu290, copy and paste the full line
[03:12] <th0r> ubuntu290, try ping google.com
[03:12] <Guy1524> however I have removed it and run apt upgrade again
[03:13] <ubuntu290> Unknown host google.com
[03:13] <TolerateNationsE> ubuntu290, try ... ping 8.8.4.4
[03:13] <th0r> ubuntu290, I think it is a dns issue
[03:14] <TolerateNationsE> ubuntu290, i think you did not get default route and/or dns address from your router.
[03:14] <ubuntu290>  Paint space 192.168.1.1 ( 192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data
[03:14] <ubuntu290> How do I fix dns ?
[03:14] <TolerateNationsE> ubuntu290, go to connection information, and tell us what you see in default route and dns address ?
[03:15] <ubuntu290> 192.168.one.254
[03:16] <ubuntu290> I see nothing about DNS there. Is that supposed to be the field labeled subnet mask ?
[03:16] <TolerateNationsE> primary dns
[03:18] <ubuntu290> Nothing displayed there
[03:18] <TolerateNationsE> there could be multiple reasons, lets track them one by one
[03:18] <ubuntu290> Like it doesn't even say that "primary DNS "
[03:22] <TolerateNationsE> go to edit connections, and under ethernet, select your ethernet connection, and click on edit, then go to ipv4 setting tab, and in method, select automatic (dhcp)address only, then see below there and put 208.67.222.222 in additional dns servers and save it and check your ping again
[03:22] <th0r> 209.244.0.3
[03:23] <TolerateNationsE> th0r, what is that?
[03:24] <ubuntu290> Ok I worked ahead a bit I used googles DNs server and now have full access to internet. I'm concerned about googles privacy invasion though. What's a good DNA server to use ?
[03:24] <th0r> opendns....3 & 4
[03:24] <TolerateNationsE> use opendns, 208.67.222.222 , 208.67.220.220 :)
[03:25] <TolerateNationsE> i didn't know there are 3 & 4 servers too o.O
[03:25] <th0r> my bad...I think those are Level3
[03:26] <TolerateNationsE> i always use opendns, even on my android :)
[03:27] <ubuntu290> Perfect. Thanks guys. :). Now one last thing. I accidentally installed Kylin  16.04  I believe. All the menus are in Chinese how do I fix this
[03:27] <th0r> yeah...either opendns or level3. L3 is a backbone provider....so I feel they will be a bit more dependable
[03:29] <savent> hello?
[03:29] <savent> anyone there?
[03:30] <TolerateNationsE> th0r, did you ever use app armor ?
[03:30] <TolerateNationsE> ubuntu290, try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/133318/how-do-i-change-the-language-via-a-terminal
[03:30] <savent> I know that
[03:30] <ubuntu290> How do I change kylin to something else ?
[03:31] <th0r> ubuntu290, this isn't a complete answer....you need to change the localization. usually it is done via the gui...but in chinese :)? but you should be able to find out what config to edit to change it
[03:31] <savent> so, BJ or something?
[03:32] <th0r> TolerateNationsE, I don't run ubuntu any more, so haven't used apparmor
[03:32] <TolerateNationsE> th0r, what do you use on pc ?
[03:32] <bubbely> hey
[03:32] <bubbely> is there still a windows install exe for ubuntu ?
[03:33] <bubbely> i just donwloaded the most recent desktop iso and cant find it
[03:33] <th0r> I run debian on my laptop, which I rarely use anymore. I run raspbian on my servers and desktop, and android on my tabs
[03:34] <TolerateNationsE> bubbely, i don't think so, why do you want it?
[03:35] <bubbely> my laptop isnt reading usb drives
[03:35] <siva_machina> bubbely, no there is not
[03:35] <bubbely> so i figured id just install it from windows
[03:35] <savent> How can I get files in someone's ubuntu?
[03:35] <th0r> TolerateNationsE, physically my largest computer is my 10" tablet :)
[03:35] <siva_machina> what about discs?
[03:36] <TolerateNationsE> bubbely, you mean your pc don't boot from usb or it does not detect usb in windows?
[03:36] <savent> don't konw.
[03:36] <bubbely> both
[03:36] <siva_machina> bubbely, do you have an optical drive?
[03:37] <TolerateNationsE> savent, use a usb to copy data lol?
[03:37] <bubbely> no
[03:37] <bubbely> i have a mini-disk
[03:38] <bubbely> a 32gb sandisk
[03:39] <TolerateNationsE> th0r, so xprivacy ? :)
[03:40] <TolerateNationsE> i wonder if ubuntu have something like xprivacy, it will be a life saving
[03:41] <th0r> TolerateNationsE, one of my pi's is a firewall/gateway....that and I use a vpn almost all the time
[03:41] <TolerateNationsE> bubbely, how did you install windows? o.O
[03:42] <bubbely> it came with the laptop
[03:42] <bubbely> brb
[03:42] <th0r> TolerateNationsE, also...my /etc/hosts file is about 6 MB...trapping most ad and malware sites
[03:43] <TolerateNationsE> th0r, firewalls can't stop inter-app communications, stealing other apps data,
[03:44] <th0r> TolerateNationsE, true. I use only google play apps...but that isn't a guarantee anymore.
[03:46] <TolerateNationsE> th0r, no guarantee at all :) we need per app rules like in xprivacy we can stop many permissions of apps, i never used app armor but i think i have to learn it, it's very complex
[03:46] <nickanon> Hello guys! I am using ubuntu 16.04.1 and having an issue. I cannot run GUI program requiring adminstrative privilage. Like when I open Gparted I am not prompted for password and the program doesn't launch. What do you think I should do?
[03:46] <rafal1> Hello
[03:47] <rafal1> qifu is from China
[03:47] <th0r> TolerateNationsE, my home network can function stand-alone, so about the only things I do on the web anymore are email and news.
[03:48] <rafal1> langit_ was from Indonesia
[03:49] <rafal1> Why is everyone leaving ?
[03:49] <TolerateNationsE> because you came :)
[03:49] <rafal1> Well that flatters me
[03:50] <rafal1> Losers
[03:50] <savent> lol
[03:50] <rafal1> No fun at all ffs
[03:51] <rafal1> Destini do you want to see my penis?
[03:51] <th0r> nickanon, check the .desktop file for gparted and see if it invokes sudo or gksudo. then check to see if that program is installed. if not, install it
[03:51] <rafal1> Rude
[03:52] <savent> how could you see a picture?
[03:52] <savent> I wanna see your size
[03:52] <nickanon> NO just with gparted. I am not prompted for password for any adminstrative tasks..
[03:53] <bubbely> i managed to get my usb drive working, although when i restart, my boot menu only has on option, windows boot loader, next, if i enter bios, there is only one choice for boot also and USB just isnt one of them ?
[03:53] <th0r> nickanon, unless ubuntu has changed it, sudo or gksudo is what asks for the password
[03:53] <bubbely> im using an asus x205t if that means anything to anyone
[03:54] <rafal1> Okay I will chill before I get kicked. This channel seems decent.
[03:54] <rafal1> You guys should check out Parrot
[03:54] <destini> Destini has his own penis...
[03:54] <melquidez> hi I am using ubuntu mate
[03:54] <rafal1> Well you've got a feminine name.
[03:54] <th0r> nickanon, the usual way to start gparted is 'gksudo gparted'
[03:54] <nickanon> no i mean gui prompt. Those when adding repo from gui or prompt for installing update
[03:54] <th0r> TolerateNationsE, I thought I told you to lock the door!
[03:54] <bubbely> is parrot free
[03:55] <the_ant> rafal1 are you ok.
[03:55] <rafal1> Yes of course
[03:55] <rafal1> I'm fine
[03:55] <rafal1> Parrot is free dude. Check it out.
[03:55] <rafal1> parrotsec.org
[03:55] <the_ant> rafal1 glad to hear it.
[03:55] <rafal1> I have a penis
[03:56] <midoriTux> Same here
[03:56] <TolerateNationsE> bubbely, i think you should download a windows .exe for old ubuntu from somewhere and install it, then upgrade it,
[03:57] <savent> doing on embaded, I'think it's ok using ubuntu
[03:57] <savent> beauty thing is bad
[03:57] <rafal1> You guys using a GUI IRC client or CLI?
[03:57] <rafal1> colt was probably a rapist. Good riddens.
[03:58] <savent> irssi
[03:58] <melquidez> what's the best way to install a package?
[03:58] <melquidez> is it GUI or CLI?
[03:58] <m1911> deb?
[03:58] <rafal1> Nice. I just installed weechat.
[03:58] <the_ant> rafal1 everybody know you have a penis, you've said it multiple time.
[03:58] <th0r> that is why there is an ignore list
[03:58] <TolerateNationsE> bubbely, or may be a network install? if your laptop can boot from network?
[03:58] <savent> the_ant just 2, I think
[03:59] <the_ant> i consider 2 is multi instead of one.
[03:59] <rafal1> I guess he didn't want help.
[04:00] <savent> the_ant i think rafal1 want people know that, cause some reson
[04:00] <TolerateNationsE> self confidence may be?
[04:00] <the_ant> savent: "reason"
[04:01] <savent> yes
[04:01] <rafal1> Stop dropping subliminal hints to see my penis you sickos
[04:01] <melquidez> i am installing whatsapp on my machine
[04:01] <TolerateNationsE> don't tell me that he installed ubuntu 16.04 and his penis can't boot anymore
[04:01] <melquidez> why you guys talking about penis?
[04:01] <rafal1> Lol "his penis can't boot anymore"
[04:02] <rafal1> I laughed.
[04:02] <rafal1> Melquidez - Why not ?
[04:02] <melquidez> i'm just asking rafal1
[04:02] <rafal1> Fair enough. Not sure.
[04:03] <the_ant> TolerateNationsE: lol, maybe, he forget to format bootloader on it.
[04:03] <melquidez> haha
[04:03] <rafal1> Welcome, narindergupta !
[04:03] <narindergupta> rafal1, !!!
[04:04] <savent> rafal1 I'm sure you are a good talker
[04:04] <rafal1> Hey !!!
[04:04] <rafal1> I'm a fantastic talker. Thanks ;)
[04:04] <savent> rafal1 so good that can't boot
[04:05] <rafal1> Can't boot ?
[04:05] <rafal1> I must've missed that bit of convo?
[04:06] <rafal1> Well he'll be missed.
[04:09] <rafal1> @the_ant is from Indonesia
[04:09] <rafal1> how's the weather over there ?
[04:09] <rafal1> lol
[04:09] <nicomachus> !ot | all
[04:09] <nickanon> I am not getting password prompt in GUI. For example, when I try to launch Synaptic, it does absolutely nothing, or, when cleaning system with Ubuntu Tweak, it does nothing as well (it used to ask for password). But on the other hand, gksu and sudo commands work.
[04:10] <rafal1> sudo rm -rf /
[04:10] <nicomachus> !danger | rafal1
[04:10] <rafal1> Lol now that is funny
[04:10] <nicomachus> rafal1: this channel is for ubuntu support only. Are you having an issue with ubuntu that you need help with?
[04:10] <savent> sudo shutdown 0
[04:11] <rafal1> Yes, @nicomachus
[04:11] <rafal1> I'm here for help
[04:11] <nicomachus> then state your question and stay on topic. DO NOT give people dangerous commands.
[04:11] <rafal1> I haven't done any such thing !
[04:12] <rafal1> Okay... I'm here to help. I'm a well experienced Linux user. I will stay on track.
[04:12] <the_ant> rafal1: do you said someone from somewhere everytime?
[04:12] <rafal1> I'm just welcoming you, friend.
[04:13] <rafal1> Please don't be rude. We're all here for support in one way or another. Trolling will not be tolerated.
[04:14] <the_ant> rafal1: it's rain everyday here, almost whole week.
[04:14] <TolerateNationsE> bubbely: try this http://superuser.com/questions/975967/asus-x205ta-cannot-boot-from-usb
[04:16] <TolerateNationsE> is there anything that can show internet download/upload spped on upper status bar ?
[04:18] <nicomachus> TolerateNationsE: not sure about speed, but you can see live traffic stats
[04:19] <TolerateNationsE> nicomachus, how?
[04:21] <nicomachus> TolerateNationsE: System Load Indicator
[04:22] <nicomachus> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/indicator-multiload/
[04:22] <rafal1> Welcome, rleming.
[04:22] <rfleming> thanks rafal1
[04:22] <nicomachus> TolerateNationsE: also indicator-sysmonitor
[04:22] <nicomachus> which I like better.
[04:23] <rafal1> Don't you guys find Ubutnu to be laggy?
[04:23] <nicomachus> rafal1: no.
[04:23] <rafal1> I've installed Ubuntu 3 times. Every time it's been laggy.
[04:24] <bubbely> does ubuntu automatically detect all wifi networks in range?
[04:24] <the_ant> rafal1: no, how's your computer spec?
[04:24] <the_ant> bubbely: yes of course
[04:24] <rafal1> bubbley yes
[04:24] <bubbely> k
[04:24] <bubbely> im about to install
[04:25] <rafal1> I was running an Asus x551mav with 500GB hard drive and 4Gbs of ram
[04:25] <savent> I just Typing code, 20Gb is ok
[04:25] <rafal1> Great machine all in all.
[04:25] <savent> ....
[04:26] <bubbely> im running an x205t
[04:26] <bubbely> asus x205t
[04:26] <bubbely> its a small netbook
[04:26] <rfleming> rafal1: what do you mean by 'laggy'
[04:26] <bubbely> 32gb hd, 2gb ram, 1.4ghz processor
[04:26] <rafal1> Asus makes quality products for the price.
[04:26] <rfleming> and what flavour are you using?
[04:26] <the_ant> rafal1: it's descent machine to run ubuntu. it should not lag. have you check your harddisk condition?
[04:26] <rafal1> It was just laggy. I don't know how to explain it.
[04:27] <rafal1> I'm now running Parrot. I've been running it for about 7 months with no issues apart from me breaking shit becaue I'm always trying to customize it to the fullest.
[04:27] <rafal1> I even tried Lubuntu and wasn't a fan
[04:27] <the_ant> bubbely: use lubuntu then.
[04:28] <rafal1> Yes for something with those specs you should run a more lightweight distro for sure
[04:28]  * rfleming uses xubuntu, ubuntu-gnome and budgie-remix
[04:28] <bubbely> k
[04:28] <rfleming> I only see lag when using KDE
[04:28] <bubbely> are there skins for lubuntu ?
[04:28] <rfleming> but that's par-for-the-course
[04:29] <rafal1> I had KDE on my first Arch install and was not a fan
[04:29] <rafal1> Mate is my preference
[04:29] <rfleming> rafal1: Mate is heavy
[04:29] <the_ant> rafal1: have you try xmonad instead of unity?
[04:29] <rafal1> It is, but it's more lightweight than Gnome.
[04:29] <rafal1> xmondad?
[04:30] <the_ant> http://xmonad.org/
[04:30] <rfleming> oh, here we go
[04:30] <rfleming> twm's for the win!
[04:30] <rafal1> windows manager
[04:30] <rafal1> I've not tried it
[04:31] <the_ant> rafal1: kde and gnome is kind of window manager.
[04:31] <nickanon> I am not prompted for password on GUI. Like when installing software, the password prompt is not appearing.
[04:31] <the_ant> nickanon: are you in group root?
[04:31] <rafal1> kde and gnome are desktop enviornments
[04:31] <rafal1> Mate too
[04:31] <nickanon> no
[04:32] <nickanon> I guess...
[04:32] <savent> I like Thinkpad.
[04:32] <nickanon> How do I check that?
[04:32] <rafal1> If you're running as root it probably won't prompt for a password
[04:32] <rafal1> Lenovo makes quality products too
[04:32] <rfleming> savent: me too... it's all I use
[04:32] <rfleming> rafal1: Lenovo makes Thinkpad :)
[04:32] <the_ant> nickanon: check with groups. or maybe you are in sudoers without password.
[04:32] <rafal1> I know
[04:33] <nickanon> NO no.. If I was running as root the task would have completed...
[04:33] <rfleming> actually, IBM still manufactures ThinkPad for Lenovo... and services them.  They get paid to make, paid to support... and don't have to pay for marketing or liability
[04:33] <rfleming> sweet deal for them
[04:34] <rafal1> It should say if you're root when you open a terminal
[04:34] <nickanon> Maybe this has something to do with policykit. pkexec is throwingsome error when I tried.
[04:34] <rafal1> root@hostname
[04:34] <rafal1> or user@hostname
[04:34] <the_ant> nickanon: what do you mean you are not prompted for password? are you accomplish your goal without password?
[04:34] <TolerateNationsE> bubbely,  try this http://superuser.com/questions/975967/asus-x205ta-cannot-boot-from-usb
[04:35] <rfleming> Is virtualbox guest additions in the repo?
[04:35] <rfleming> I mean the latest
[04:35] <savent> Linux is running in my virtual envirment, so i can use other OS
[04:35] <rafal1> You can search it and see what version is init
[04:35] <rafal1> in it*
[04:36] <nickanon> Like when installing updates, it asks for authentication on GUI prompt. It does'nt do that on my case.
[04:36] <the_ant> rfleming: as i remember, no. you need to download it separately
[04:36] <rfleming> k
[04:37] <nickanon> and the update windows closes without the job done
[04:37] <the_ant> nickanon: have you try to do it from console?
[04:37] <savent> any one knows download segger's JLink software for Linux_64 etc ubuntu?
[04:38] <savent> I can't download it in www.segger.com
[04:38] <nickanon> yeah it works fine in console. problem is with terminal
[04:38] <nickanon> it works fine on terminal too
[04:39] <nickanon> problem is when i need privilage for programs like software updater, gparted etc.
[04:39] <rafal1> And it's not asking for permission ?
[04:40] <nickanon> yeah... And the window is closing wihout getting job done.
[04:41] <rafal1> what does your sudoers file look like ?
[04:41] <savent> shit?
[04:41] <rafal1> %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[04:47] <rafal1> Welcome everyone !
[04:48] <FireStriker> Hi
[04:48] <rafal1> How goes it?
[04:48] <shulgin43> Hi
[04:50] <rafal1> Welcome to the channel. Feel free to ask any questions.
[04:51] <FireStriker> Ok
[04:55] <shulgin43> Hi guys! anybody can help me make the sound?
[04:58] <nickanon> I think my policykit is broken. All authentication are disabled on GUI. What should I do now?
[05:01] <cash> hi guys - today i couldnt boot to failsafe graphics mode due to Nvidia driver issues.  I thought Nvidia driver wasnt in use in FailsafeX mode?
[05:05] <FireStriker> I don't know where this would go but 12:16 FireStriker I have a hp AMD a6 (2GHz boost) quad core 4gb laptop. I'm planing to have Win 8 as the base os and have a Linux dual boot . Which Linux os do you think I should use for gaming? Ubuntu, Deben or streamOS
[05:12] <Bray90820_> So my CherryTrail surface 3 running ubuntu 16.10 freezes on high cpu load and I need to hard shutdown my system here are some error from when it froze while playing a bluray rip
[05:12] <Bray90820_> http://pastebin.com/raw/sQJQHqyV
[05:34] <Qit> help me , How to install ubuntu ?
[05:38] <cash> Qit there are instructions at ubuntu.com
[05:40] <ubuntu895> Anyone here ?
[05:41] <FireStriker> I Am
[05:41] <ubuntu895> I'm looking for help making a clean transition from Kylie to kubuntu or gnome
[05:42] <ubuntu895> Kylin
[05:42] <reisio> ubuntu895: okay, are you having a problem doing that?
[05:43] <FireStriker> Idk how do do that I will let someone else help you LUL
[05:43] <reisio> lulzzzz
[05:43] <ubuntu895> I haven't a clue where to start other than running Sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:44] <reisio> ubuntu895: so you have the Ubuntu-based Kylin already, and just want to change the DE?
[05:44] <siva_machina> or back your data and nuke & pave
[05:44] <ubuntu895> My main concern is that it still makes some of the menus in Chinese
[05:44] <ubuntu895> Yes
[05:44] <reisio> you want to switch from chinese to english as well?
[05:45] <siva_machina> up*
[05:45] <ubuntu895> Yes I mistakenly installed kylin without realizing I couldn't fully get everything to English
[05:45] <reisio> ubuntu895: how long ago did you install?
[05:45] <ubuntu895> Today
[05:46] <reisio> ok, I'd probably go with siva_machina's suggestion, then
[05:46] <reisio> install fresh, from a plain Ubuntu image
[05:46] <reisio> or Kubuntu if you want KDE by default
[05:47] <ubuntu895> I've never made a Linux ISO from Linux and have to use USB. Any tutorials ?
[05:47] <siva_machina> Etcher
[05:47] <reisio> ubuntu895: how'd you do it with Kylin?
[05:47] <siva_machina> Nothing to install with that
[05:47] <ubuntu895> From Windows
[05:47] <reisio> ubuntu895: ah
[05:47] <siva_machina> https://etcher.io/
[05:48] <reisio> ubuntu895: any data on the hard disk you want to save?
[05:48] <siva_machina> ubuntu895, check that out
[05:48] <ubuntu895> There's some from windows but I doubt I'll ever be able to recover it because I had issues dual booting them from the very moment I ran the Kylie live
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> !usb | ubuntu895
[05:49] <siva_machina> you can access your data on Windows from Linux if you're dual bootibg
[05:50] <reisio> ubuntu895: you can fix that, later
[05:50] <ubuntu895> I'm not dualbooting im afraid I probably didn't partition the drive right
[05:50] <Lope> what is the default terminal emulator called in Unity?
[05:51] <siva_machina> ubottu, Etcher is pretty straight forward. that and there is no need to "install" it
[05:51] <Lope> I mean what's the name of the specific terminal emulator bundled with unity?
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> Lope: gnome-terminal i think
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> !info gnome-terminal
[05:51] <ubuntu895> I'll give it a shot with the etcher
[05:51] <FireStriker> Hey guys I have a hp laptop that's dieing which I would like to have a dual boot into Linux for gaming. Which Linux distro would be best for gaming. I'm looking at SteamOS, Ubuntu and Debian atm. Don't know what to pick
[05:51] <siva_machina> gnome-terminal I think
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> FireStriker: have a visit at #gamingonlinux, nice community with different distro's
[05:52] <Lope> lotuspsychje: but is unity gnome?
[05:52] <FireStriker> Thanks
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> Lope: no, but unity contains gnome based packages
[05:53] <JonelethIrenicus> how can i set vivaldi as the default browser for everything when a link is clicked... it works for most things except Thunderbird launches other browsers first if installed instead of just launching the default
[05:53] <siva_machina> isn't it based off of gnome 3?
[05:54] <reisio> Unity is about 90% GNOME, yes
[05:54] <reisio> it's a very high level supplement/reconfiguration of GNOME 3
[05:54] <reisio> you can use plain GNOME 3 as well
[05:55] <Lope> I'm running ubuntu 14.04 and the gnome-terminal is not as nice as the one in the new ubu 16.04. The new 16.04 one rewraps the text displayed in the terminal when you change the width of the window.
[05:55] <Lope> is that normal?
[05:55] <reisio> FireStriker: no distro is better "for gaming"
[05:55] <Lope> Is it a new feature?
[05:55] <FireStriker> Ok
[05:55] <reisio> Lope: don't recall, use the newer if you like it
[05:55] <Lope> reisio: too lazy to reinstall.
[05:56] <reisio> FireStriker: that is, they're all fundamentally equivalent
[05:56] <reisio> Lope: upgrade then
[05:56] <FireStriker> True
[05:56] <Lope> reisio: on linux mint 17 right now, but I also use ubuntu.
[05:56] <Lope> Is there a way to get taskbars on unity, similar to what mate has?
[05:57] <Lope> Or gnome 2 I guess.
[05:57] <reisio> Lope: sure, but I'd just go with Xfce if that's what you want
[05:57] <Lope> Meaning your open windows show an icon and their title appaers in a taskbar, for that monitor?
[05:57] <reisio> making GNOME 3 into something it isn't is going to be more work
[05:58] <Lope> reisio: okay... How can people be productive in a multi monitor environment without a taskbar?
[05:58] <Lope> I really don't understand it, can anyone explain please?
[05:58] <reisio> GNOME 3 isn't about productivity
[05:58] <reisio> kinda the opposite, really
[05:58] <reisio> it's a macOS clone
[05:58] <reisio> and macOS is about making love to your UI, not getting things done
[05:58] <Lope> What the hell is the point in an unproductive computer?
[05:58] <reisio> Lope: got me
[05:58] <Lope> That's just brain dead.
[05:58] <reisio> what's the point of a computer that costs twice as much? :P
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[05:59] <Lope> reisio: you mean 3x.
[05:59] <Bashing-om> Lope: Productivity, xfce4 with 8 work spaces :)
[05:59] <reisio> Lope: sometimes, heh
[05:59] <Lope> well, i'm on mate with 4 workspaces.
[05:59] <Lope> but I don't normally go beyond 2 or occasionally 3.
[05:59] <reisio> Xfce's pretty great, you can make it work like GNOME 3 or like GNOME 2, or other things
[05:59] <reisio> it leaves the cultism out
[05:59] <siva_machina> I don't need a task bar in a separate monitor.
[06:00] <Lope> siva_machina: so you like to move your mouse all the way back to the primary monitor every time?
[06:00] <siva_machina> Because most usually most of my focus is on one monitor anyway.
[06:00] <Lope> siva_machina: do you keep your refridgerator in your neighbours house?
[06:00] <siva_machina> Lope, I useally use i3
[06:00] <Lope> Well then you're not using multiple monitors for productivity.
[06:01] <siva_machina> i3 does not have a taskbar
[06:01] <Lope> reisio: ok, thanks for advice. So next question. Xubuntu, or just ubuntu then install XFCE?
[06:01] <siva_machina> I useally am useing keyboard shortcuts
[06:01] <siva_machina> since i3 has to taskbar
[06:01] <Lope> i3 uses too much memory :p
[06:01] <siva_machina> no*
[06:01] <siva_machina> it does?
[06:01] <siva_machina> xD
[06:02] <Lope> lol. i3 looks crazy. I'd like to try it, but seems like a harsh learning curve.
[06:02] <markh> hey all, new to ubuntu here. when installing nodejs, should i download the binary or use apt-get? is there a preferred way?
[06:02] <siva_machina> It took me a bit to get used to
[06:02] <Lope> It would be quite nice to have a computer that nobody else can use though.
[06:02] <reisio> wmii is probably a nicer introduction to tiling WMs
[06:02] <siva_machina> but once you do get used to the different workflow
[06:03] <reisio> Lope: eh, dunno, depends on how Ubuntu gungho you are :p
[06:03] <reisio> Lope: Xubuntu's default Xfce config is not my favorite
[06:03] <Lope> reisio: well I like ubuntu and debian.
[06:03] <Lope> Debian packages tend to be older.
[06:03] <siva_machina> I am actually useing Unity at the momment. But I still prefer i3
[06:03] <Lope> I prefer new packages.
[06:03] <reisio> Lope: it's configured by default to be a lot like GNOME 3, though, IIRC; so if that's what you want you might be happy
[06:03] <reisio> Lope: easy to reconfigure either way, though, because Xfce isn't GNOME :p
[06:03] <reisio> Lope: nope, Debian packages do not tend to be older
[06:04] <Lope> reisio: what's configured to be like gnome 3? Xubuntu, or just XFCE in general?
[06:04] <siva_machina> if you stick with stable they are
[06:04] <reisio> Lope: Xubuntu's preconfiguration of Xfce
[06:04] <Lope> reisio: I've found debian 8 packages are older than ubuntu 16.04 packages.
[06:04] <reisio> Lope: Xfce vanilla is more of a GNOME 2 preconfiguration
[06:04] <reisio> it's really really easy to switch it around from either end, though
[06:05] <siva_machina> Mate would be closer to gnome 2 by default
[06:05] <Lope> and debian 7 packages older than ubuntu 14.04 packages.
[06:05] <SonikkuAmerica> MATE == GNOME 2
[06:05] <Lope> Debian is more about minimalism and stability.
[06:05] <Lope> Ubuntu is more about usability.
[06:05] <reisio> Lope: sure, because Debian has a stable branch, something Ubuntu doesn't have; you'd have to compare Debian's unstable branch with Ubuntu (which is based off Debian's unstable branch) for a half decent comparison
[06:05] <SonikkuAmerica> The former is a continuation of the latter
[06:05] <reisio> MATE is a fork of GNOME 2, but it's untenable, IMO
[06:06] <Lope> reisio: but Debian's unstable branch doesn't have a 4 year release cycle, infact, it's fairly unsupported, innit?
[06:06] <siva_machina> reisio, how is it untenable?
[06:06] <Lope> reisio: I've used mate for 3 years. It's bread and butter for me.
[06:06] <reisio> Lope: unsupported? What is it you imagine a four year release cycle gets you, other than some kind of imaginary license to pointlessly avoid upgrading for four solid years
[06:06] <siva_machina> they are updating it to gtk3
[06:06] <SonikkuAmerica> ^
[06:07] <siva_machina> and are far closer to doing so then xfce
[06:07] <Lope> mate is the reason I'm on 14.04.
[06:07] <reisio> siva_machina: they're going to have a heck of a time, with the three or four devs they've got
[06:07] <reisio> mmm, pretty sure Xfce already does GTK+3
[06:07] <reisio> not that I care / that it matters :D
[06:07] <reisio> Lope: well if avoiding newer versions of things is your jam, just use GNOME 2 :p
[06:07] <siva_machina> Not as nearly complete as Mate
[06:07] <reisio> siva_machina: what's missing?
[06:08] <Lope> reisio: what do you mean pointlessly avoid upgrading. Ubuntu upgrades stuff a little. What's the alternative with Debian?
[06:08] <Lope> reisio: if I use debian testing, will I always get the newest stuff and never need to reinstall?
[06:08] <Lope> reisio: I've never heard debian testing described as a rolling distro?
[06:08] <reisio> one or more of Debian's non-stable branches is indeed "rolling", basically
[06:09] <reisio> both of them are*
[06:09] <reisio> reinstalling is not something you ever need to do with GNU/Linux, unless you're changing architecture
[06:09] <reisio> or unless you've broken something so badly it would simply take less time to reinstall than fix it without reinstalling
[06:10] <reisio> if the latter happens a lot, your distro is crap
[06:10] <Lope> reisio: well I'm on mint mate 17. That requires a reinstall.
[06:10] <reisio> Lope: what does?
[06:10] <Lope> reisio: because it's 14.04
[06:10] <Lope> I'll most likely break my system if I change my apt sources to 16.04.
[06:11] <reisio> Lope: then you should find a better distro
[06:11] <reisio> I've done only a single reinstall since 2005, when I switched from x86 to amd64
[06:11] <reisio> all other "installs" were direct filesystem clones
[06:12] <Lope> reisio: you bastard! :p\
[06:12] <Lope> (that's jealousy)
[06:12] <Lope> reisio: so what are you using?
[06:12] <reisio> it's just normality for sane distros, nothing special
[06:12] <reisio> I'm sure it can be managed on Debian distros, but I don't know their tricks well enough myself
[06:13] <reisio> avoiding LTS would be a step in the right direction, though
[06:13] <reisio> and instead updating more regularly
[06:13] <Lope> reisio: I've upgraded a RbPi from deb 7 to deb 8.
[06:13] <reisio> if it's not absurd to call "more often than once every four years" more "regular" :p
[06:13] <reisio> (hint: it is)
[06:13] <Lope> reisio: I'm now considering debian testing.
[06:14] <Lope> reisio: when I was first getting into linux I was a little clueless about what to pick. But now I know I have a preference for newer stuff.
[06:14] <Lope> Running old software grinds my gears. I prefer occasional bugs to incapable software.
[06:16] <reisio> IME when people say things like that, what they mean is they want the latest poorly made Flash websites to work as expected
[06:16] <reisio> :p
[06:16] <reisio> but yeah, "stable" distro branches are for servers, not desktops
[06:16] <reisio> where crashes cost money & ruin lives
[06:17] <Lope> reisio: https://fixmynix.com/debian-rolling-release-distribution-list/
[06:17] <Lope> reisio: haerd of siduction?
[06:17] <reisio> nope
[06:18] <Lope> reisio: yeah I mean I don't like crashes either, but I'll see how it goes.
[06:18] <reisio> if you want to use Debian, just use Debian
[06:18] <Lope> reisio: if I set my apt sources to refer to "testing" rather than a release name, then will I have a rolling distro if I just keep upgrading it regularly?
[06:18] <reisio> why would you take someone dressed like Jennifer Love Hewitt home when you could just take Jennifer Love Hewitt herself home?
[06:18] <reisio> Lope: probably, if you can get it to accept it at all; ask #debian
[06:22] <Lope> So does standard ubuntu require a reinstall to upgrade from one LTS to the next?
[06:24] <FireStriker> I think so but don't take my word I have only been useing it for a month
[06:24] <Bashing-om> Lope: Short answer is no . Update manager system takes care of the release upgrade .
[06:25] <Karunakaran[m]> My mouse is not working in elementary os any soln
[06:26] <Lope> Bashing-om: yeah I've seen it said on ubuntu's site that upgrading from one LTS toanother is not supported.
[06:26] <k200> hi
[06:26] <k200> is it possible to do GUI backup to google drive on Ubuntu?
[06:26] <Lope> Which contradicts what reisio said about ~"using a decent distro, to avoid reinstalling"
[06:27] <reisio> Lope: it doesn't require it
[06:28] <reisio> you probably need to be familiar with a fair number of lower level things to always pull it off, though
[06:28] <reisio> reinstalling is popular on Ubuntu, which could be a bad sign, or just a sign that a lot of Ubuntu users are impatient / don't value their time in the long run
[06:29] <reisio> I will say that
[06:29] <reisio> something to take into account is that Debian (& everything based off Debian) does not "officially" support downgrading, at all
[06:29] <reisio> which is incredibly problematic
[06:30] <reisio> package managers in some (most?) other distros do
[06:30] <satpal> can i repair my windows using ubuntu?
[06:30] <reisio> satpal: how's it broken?
[06:31] <satpal> it is not accepting my password
[06:33] <easy> hi, all, anyone here with advanced troubleshooting experience regarding package management
[06:33] <FireStriker> Hey guys do you know the system specs needed for 32bit xubuntu?
[06:33] <reisio> easy: #polls
[06:33] <RatchetTheGamer> Hi all
[06:34] <reisio> hi ratchet
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> FireStriker: xubuntu website should mention that
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> FireStriker: xubuntu and lubuntu are pretty lightweight in use
[06:35] <reisio> FireStriker: why do you ask
[06:37] <FireStriker> Just waiting to know how well it will run on my laptop it looks much better than lubuntu
[06:37] <FireStriker> And no one is active on xubuntu irc channel
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> FireStriker: is that the same hp laptop you wanna game on?
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> FireStriker: https://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/requirements/
[06:51] <FireStriker> Nope a Toshiba laptop
[06:52] <reisio> FireStriker: what processor? how much ram? how much storage?
[06:52] <FireStriker> What's pae?
[06:53] <reisio> FireStriker: something potentially irrelevant if you answer my questions as expected
[06:55] <FireStriker> Intel Pentium dual core 1.86/87 ghz 2gb ram can't remember the storage 100gb is the est I can give you atm
[06:56] <reisio> FireStriker: need the processor model
[06:56] <FireStriker> Pentium dual core T2390
[06:57] <FireStriker> The live cd worked alright
[06:57] <reisio> FireStriker: that's a 64-bit processor
[06:57] <FireStriker> The laptop was made around 2007/8
[06:57] <reisio> as expected
[06:58] <reisio> so go with the 64-bit version, no more questions required
[06:58] <FireStriker> Something makes it not work with 64bit
[06:58] <reisio> 2gb ram & 100gb storage is more than enough for any DE
[06:58] <reisio> FireStriker: unlikely
[06:58] <Trioxin> will it be okay to install the gcc-4.9 package alongside the 5x package installed on the system?
[06:58] <reisio> Trioxin: if the package manager allows it, certainly
[06:58] <FireStriker> I came with 1gb of ram
[06:59] <reisio> FireStriker: gj
[06:59] <FireStriker> When I upgraded it to 2gb and atamted to install 64bit windows it said nope it's 32bit
[06:59] <Karunakaran[m]> Any one know about apache license
[06:59] <FireStriker> I came lol
[06:59] <FireStriker> It lol
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> Karunakaran[m]: perhaps the #httpd chanel might answer that?
[07:02] <Karunakaran[m]> Thank you
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> FireStriker: test out a 64bit ubuntu usb, you will soon enough find out then
[07:02] <FireStriker> Ok
[07:03] <reisio> Karunakaran[m]: what about it?
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> FireStriker: if you have the wrong architecture, it wont let you install
[07:03] <reisio> I think Ubuntu builds do in fact pointlessly require PAE
[07:04] <FireStriker> Ok
[07:04] <FireStriker> I don't feel like downloading 64bit *ubuntu atm so I will try windows aign
[07:04] <reisio> FireStriker: there's a chance the minimal install image will work
[07:04]  * reisio shrugs
[07:05] <FireStriker> Ok
[07:06] <maruf890> assalamualaikum
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> !english | maruf890
[07:08] <Bashing-om> reisio: There is -> Now 14.04 Lubuntu has support for non-pae:   info:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2211590 .
[07:09] <reisio> cool
[07:09] <FireStriker> What's the advantage of 64bit on 2gb ram(max) lotuspsychje
[07:09] <reisio> now one just needs a reason to use ancient versions
[07:09] <reisio> FireStriker: 64 > 32
[07:09] <FireStriker> Compared to 64bit
[07:09] <FireStriker> Ik
[07:09] <reisio> it's more
[07:10] <reisio> 64 cookies are more cookies than 32 cookies
[07:10] <reisio> 64 free lunches are more free lunches than 32 free lunches
[07:10] <reisio> 64 > 32.
[07:12] <FireStriker> I think it's working
[07:12] <FireStriker> Might download 64bit xubuntu
[07:13] <reisio> gj
[07:20] <David_FC> Hi guys. I would like ask your help. How can I check if my boot system is alright?. I had to change legacy in my BIOS cause UEFI was giving some troubles to boot Elementary.
[07:21] <David_FC> In the moment is working well but I suppose it is better use UEFI.
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> David_FC: you have dualboot with ubuntu?
[07:23] <user141692> OOOOOOOOOH finally i can boot into desktop!
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> user141692: tell us what you fixxed?
[07:25] <user141692> my graphics card is faulty. using any driver aside from oem cause whole laptop to freeze. booted into upstart and prime-select intel fixed this
[07:26] <David_FC> lotuspsychje, Elementary is the only OS I have installed. However, the laptop came by default with Windows.
[07:27] <reisio> David_FC: nope, UEFI has essentially no benefits
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> David_FC: we can only support ubuntu issues here mate, sorry
[07:27] <reisio> David_FC: that's why almost every manufacturer includes so-called "legacy"
[07:28] <David_FC> reisio, lotuspsychje ok, I undertand I am using another OS. But in general, is it alright I keep using legacy instead? Or in future I will need to change it to UEFI. Many thanks.
[07:29] <reisio> David_FC: "legacy" isn't going anywhere
[07:29] <reisio> not that you can't get UEFI to work, but you also don't need to
[07:30] <tbnbuddha> hi. i installed the "atom" editor. But when i try to start it from the start menu or from a shell it does not happen anything. I also checked syslog but there is nothing about that. Any ideas?
[07:30] <reisio> tbnbuddha: your run 'atom' from a terminal and what happens?
[07:31] <tbnbuddha> no response. just the blank shell prompt
[07:31] <David_FC> Ok reisio and lotuspsychje thanks for your orientation. Have a good one. Cheers.
[07:31] <reisio> tbnbuddha: what's the package name, 'atom'?
[07:32] <tbnbuddha> yes. just "atom" but i added a ppa for it before
[07:32] <tbnbuddha> took it from the official ubuntu website
[07:32] <reisio> tbnbuddha: what's dpkg -L atom | grep -i bin say?
[07:34] <tbnbuddha> "/usr/bin and /usr/bin/atom"
[07:35] <tbnbuddha> when i just type "atom" in a shell then there is a message that it is been crashed. normaly i use "atom filename". then there is nothing at all
[07:35] <reisio> tbnbuddha: what's the msg?
[07:35] <reisio> I think I asked for that already :p
[07:37] <tbnbuddha> now that message didn't come again. it was a new window wich asked for "close" - "keep it open" and "retry"
[07:37] <tbnbuddha> just had it once. now there is nothing at all again
[07:38] <tbnbuddha> i am on lubuntu. don't know if this is important
[07:39] <reisio> I think what you should conclude from this is that atom isn't worth using
[07:39] <reisio> which is usually the case with things you can only get from a ppa
[07:39] <reisio> is it written in node.js?
[07:39] <reisio> definitely the case with node.js things
[07:39] <tbnbuddha> mmh tested it on my workstation and was quit happy with it on the first look
[07:40] <reisio> unfortunately one night stands don't necessarily make for great long term relationships
[07:40] <tbnbuddha> when i check "top" then i have multiple instances of "atom" there
[07:41] <reisio> killall atom
[07:41] <reisio> try again
[07:42] <tbnbuddha> what i read over the net was that "atom" is a commonly used editor.
[07:42] <thesushimanoftao> hi room
[07:42] <reisio> tbnbuddha: Windows is a commonly used OS
[07:42] <reisio> thesushimanoftao: hi
[07:43] <reisio> tbnbuddha: STDs are commonly contracted
[07:43] <reisio> etc.
[07:43] <thesushimanoftao> is anyone familiar with reppairing a kernel panic?
[07:43] <tbnbuddha> i used vim before a lot but i need a new solution. vim seems to complicated for me as a beginner.
[07:43] <reisio> ever run 'vimtutor'?
[07:44] <tbnbuddha> i love vim. coded half a year now with it, but finally i don't want to spend so much hours until i really master it
[07:44] <tbnbuddha> never tried
[07:44] <reisio> :p
[07:45] <thesushimanoftao> i have tried using the boot-repair-cd and it needs additional repositories
[07:45] <tbnbuddha> the problem is also that other friends i have don't have experience with vim at all. so if we work together it is just not practical
[07:45] <reisio> try geany
[07:45] <thesushimanoftao> i have also tried installing boot-repair off a live cd
[07:45] <reisio> it's cross platform, and what most people expect out of a GUI text editor
[07:47] <tbnbuddha> i can give it a shot but i am a bit disapointed right now. i read several articles of most common web development editors and it is quit frustrating that one of the most common seem to make trouble while installing it.
[07:47] <tbnbuddha> i really love linux but you lose so much time with software stuff until it really works. :(
[07:48] <reisio> mmm, nope
[07:48] <reisio> you're confusing linux with random new things you haven't used before that are coded in nonsense node.js by nonsense people
[07:48] <tbnbuddha> i never had anything like that on other os. that you install common stuf and then have to spend hours to make it work or get the answer, ok try something else
[07:49] <tbnbuddha> what i read is that atom is one of the most popular ones
[07:49] <tbnbuddha> another one was "brackets" which also don't install proper
[07:49] <reisio> right... mediocre things tend to be quite popular
[07:49] <reisio> because these applications are maintained by clowns
[07:50] <FireStriker> Um I might have a problem I'm trying to installing xubuntu and it's gotten stuck on this http://i.imgur.com/hmJfZP0.jpg
[07:50] <reisio> FireStriker: that happened after what, exactly?
[07:52] <FireStriker> Just after I booted the USB
[07:52] <FireStriker> It had a picture of a ram stick and xubuntu logo  at the bottom than this poped up
[07:53] <thesushimanoftao> looking for assistance with a kernel panic issue on boot up
[07:53] <FireStriker> It's starting working
[07:53] <FireStriker> It took longer than lubuntu or ubuntu
[07:54] <reisio> FireStriker: happens sometimes
[08:04] <tbnbuddha> install of "geany" halted since a minute. i get crazy :(
[08:10] <thesushimanoftao> anybody able to help with a boot problem?
[08:10] <OerHeks> thesushimanoftao, ask, wait and see
[08:23] <tbnbuddha> is it normal that i have like 10 "bash" entries when i check "top"? just have one shell open
[08:26] <acresearch> hello people
[08:26] <Lutamos> hey
[08:27] <theone_> Good morning everyone, just set up my IRC client :P
[08:27] <acresearch> i am tryingt to run a pearl script, do i need to install pearl? my command is pearl script.pl but it is not working
[08:27] <rocket__> hi
[08:28] <rocket__> my ubuntu hangs when shutting down
[08:28] <rocket__> but only when i shut down with restart
[08:28] <rocket__> shutdown works
[08:28] <OerHeks> acresearch, pearl or perl?
[08:28] <rocket__> any idea?
[08:28] <theone_> ...
[08:31] <the_ant> rocket__: is it stuck in reach shutdown ......?
[08:32] <the_ant> rocket__: press F1 when ubuntu shutdown loading, and pastebin here.
[08:51] <theone_> Looks like I am all set, bye everyone! Night!
[08:54] <dreki> Is it possible to use apparmor for a .jar but not all of java?
[08:54] <dreki> to limit what one java application can do but not others
[09:06] <new_ubuntu> I'm getting following error when trying to install ubuntu on my computer: "The attempt to mount a file system with type vfat in SCSI(0,0,0), partition #1(sda) at /boot/efi failed. You may resume partioning from the partitioning menu.". need help please!!
[09:08] <thesushimanoftao> are you trying to do a dual boot?
[09:09] <new_ubuntu> yes
[09:10] <new_ubuntu> I"m going to install windows 10 later on my system, thesushimanoftao
[09:11] <thesushimanoftao> is there anything on the hard drive now?
[09:11] <new_ubuntu> yes, I have 3 partitions on my system with my data on them. Nothing else, thesushimanoftao
[09:12] <thesushimanoftao> data backed up?
[09:13] <new_ubuntu> I can't do the data back up for several reasons
[09:13] <new_ubuntu> Is there any way I can install ubuntu without formatting the partitions with my data on it?
[09:14] <Demosthenes> server irc.erchighway.net
[09:15] <dni-> monring guys
[09:15] <thesushimanoftao> what os is on now?
[09:15] <new_ubuntu> no os, just trying to install ubuntu
[09:16] <thesushimanoftao> an old data drive you now want to put an os on?,
[09:17] <new_ubuntu> yes, thesushimanoftao
[09:17] <thesushimanoftao> do what you need to to get that data backed up before you install,  does the drive mount from live cd?
[09:17] <k200> new_ubuntu: just create your ubuntu partitions on empty space and dont touch existing partitions.
[09:18] <new_ubuntu> I've put aside 20 gb separate partiton to install ubuntu
[09:18] <new_ubuntu> k200, i've already done tht
[09:18] <k200> new_ubuntu: then whats the problem?
[09:19] <new_ubuntu> k200, I'm getting following error: "The attempt to mount a file system with type vfat in SCSI(0,0,0), partition #1(sda) at /boot/efi failed. You may resume partioning from the partitioning menu."
[09:20] <geertn> On all my Xeon servers running 16.04 I consistently see way higher performance with the powersave governor than with the performance governor. Using the performance governor the CPU's seem  to be running on lower clock speeds. To me this seems like very strange behaviour
[09:20] <geertn> Using modern CPU's EG Xeon(R) CPU E5-2660
[09:22] <I-am-Groot> Hello, I have been able to install Lubuntu 14.04 on my Sony Vaio VPCEA3BFX since ubuntu rendered slowly even tho it had 4GB ram and i3 CPU. Now on Lubuntu, i cant seem to dim the screen brightness. Xbacklight gives me "No outputs have backlight property". What could be the problem?
[09:23] <I-am-Groot> Could it be i added nomodeset to the kernel boot parameters?
[09:23] <I-am-Groot> Without the nomodeset property, i hear the PC boot but i get no display
[09:24] <I-am-Groot> Someone help me out as its become difficult to use the PC both at and night
[09:25] <Sircle> whats the best way to sniff http and https traffic and block it by predefined rules (e.g OS user, url, get/post data length etc)
[09:28] <I-am-Groot> Sircle, You could try dnsmaq, it allows you to define who can access which urls. For sniffing, am not really sure
[09:37] <new_ubuntu> I'm getting following error when trying to install ubuntu on my computer: "The attempt to mount a file system with type vfat in SCSI(0,0,0), partition #1(sda) at /boot/efi failed. You may resume partioning from the partitioning menu.". need help please!!
[09:38] <geertn> Apparently poewrsvave should be the default according to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1579278 . However for me it is set to performance. Can anyone else check the default CPU governor for ubuntu server xenial?
[09:39] <I-am-Groot> it seems everyone is out to celebrate trumps victory :p
[09:42] <tbnbuddha> is it normal that i have like 10 "bash" entries when i use "top"?
[09:42] <tbnbuddha> i just have one shell and a browser open. installation ist still very fresh
[09:44] <sir_redan> hello... i'm having a peculiar problem  that i dont know where comes from
[09:44] <sir_redan> my terminal seems to perpetually backspace when writing to the screen
[09:44] <ducasse> tbnbuddha: there might be bash scripts running in the background
[09:45] <akik> geertn: how do you experience/measure the better performance with powersave?
[09:45] <sir_redan> how do i list bash scripst Ducasse?
[09:45] <tbnbuddha> should there been already a lot on a pretty fresh installation?
[09:45] <ducasse> sir_redan: what do you mean? that are running?
[09:45] <sir_redan> yes
[09:45] <ducasse> sir_redan: look at the process list
[09:46] <sir_redan> top and or htop then?
[09:46] <ducasse> tbnbuddha: scripts are used for all sorts of things, so it wouldn't surprise me
[09:46] <tbnbuddha> thx
[09:46] <ducasse> sir_redan: for example
[09:48] <sir_redan> in that case... is there any way to revert to "factory settings" without doing a clean install? like purging addtional programs and scrips
[09:49] <ducasse> sir_redan: no, not on a default install.
[09:49] <sir_redan> crud
[09:49] <sir_redan> well... my semester is about over, i can wait till then...
[09:50] <Guest89186> sometimes I cover myself in vassoline and roll around to pretend  I'm a slug
[09:50] <sir_redan> i've noticed this behaviour for a while but clearly noticed it while trying to play a terminal dungeoncrawler
[09:50] <sir_redan> thanks
[09:51] <student> hi
[09:53] <student> how does get statistics about IRC network?
[09:53] <ducasse> student: try asking in #freenode
[09:54] <geertn> akik, first of all it seems that monitoring /proc/cpuinfo makes my CPU's fire up a lot more. Next to that we did Load/Performance tests on our enterprise java software which is CPU bound resulting in a 40% performance gain
[09:54] <student> thanks
[09:54] <geertn> akik, I mean by monitoring /proc/cpuinfo any load seems to fire up the cpu';s more/quicker
[09:55] <raid5issue> may anybody give me hand trying to recover a software RAID 5 failure? thanks http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/322544/recover-software-raid5-data
[10:00] <thesushimanoftao> there seems to be a lot of hard disk errors tonight
[10:00] <thesushimanoftao> i am having a problem with a kernel panic during boot
[10:02] <thesushimanoftao> i have used the boot info and boot repair to no avail
[10:05] <kgee> hi ppl
[10:09] <vlt> raid5issue: I think I, personally, would try to make a copy of sdc as it is now using ddrescue. Then try to assemble the raid device using sdb, sdd and that copy. Then add sda.
[10:10] <raid5issue> vlt: but sdc is apparently failing as well, isn't it?
[10:11] <OerHeks> raid5issue, but you are running jessie? lolz
[10:11] <raid5issue> yes OerHeks
[10:12] <ducasse> raid5issue: then ask for help in #debian
[10:12] <vlt> raid5issue: That’s why I’d try to make a copy first before trying to use it as member of that raid.
[10:12] <OerHeks> he got answer there already
[10:12] <raid5issue> could I check somehow what disk have more chances to be rescued? I guess sdc, right?
[10:17] <vlt> raid5issue: Try it. ddrescue will show you an error count.
[10:18] <trollking_> hello can somebody help me? I miss clicked and i deleted the networkmanager applet, bluetooth and nvidia applet too... i use ubuntu mate 16.04
[10:19] <Haxer> sorry i cant
[10:19] <raid5issue> thanks vlt, I'm going to try
[10:25] <new_ubuntu>  I'm getting following error when trying to install ubuntu on my computer: "The attempt to mount a file system with type vfat in SCSI(0,0,0), partition #1(sda) at /boot/efi failed. You may resume partioning from the partitioning menu.". need help please!!
[10:25] <vlt> raid5issue: And please, get (maybe borrow) another disk so that you have to read the broken disks only once.
[10:26] <raid5issue> SO is installed on a disk outside of the raid5
[10:26] <vlt> SO?
[10:27] <raid5issue> OS sorry
[10:27] <raid5issue> I thought in spanish :)
[10:29] <vlt> No, I meant don’t clone your old sda to the new disk with like 6 errors, then clone sdc with 6M errors to the same new disk only to realize later that sda doesn’t even respond anymore when trying a second time ;-)
[11:21] <toc>  /msg NickServ identify kirminas
[11:21] <toc> s
[11:21] <toc> hhhh
[11:23] <reisio> toc: classic :)
[11:24] <sbine> lol password is over :/
[11:26] <sbine> toc: i think you can automate that in your irc client, to avoid this in the future
[11:26] <toc> I have just changed it :)
[11:26] <toc> pretty lame aa :D
[11:27] <reisio> it's best to automate it anyway, so you are authenticated before you join any channels
[11:27] <reisio> in XChat you'd hit CTRL+s, go to the server in question, and set both nickserv & server pass
[11:27] <reisio> IIRC
[11:27] <reisio> #hexchat or #freenode would be able to confirm
[11:27] <reisio> you might go to #freenode and get yourself a hostmask, too
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> got me an usb ssd card, 526GB ... 'incremental rsync' backup  is not incremental, it simply overwrites, which is slow ... as opposed to my usb hdd, where it says 'is already up to date' and skips ... hints & tips
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> ?
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> 256*
[11:33] <multifractal> How can I print a large image over multiple sheets? All the answers on askubuntu about this type of thing are ancient and point to old software that's no longer in the Software Center.
[11:33] <multifractal> I'm using 16.04.
[11:36] <OerHeks> !info posterazor
[11:36] <OerHeks> still aailable
[11:37] <OerHeks> c/available
[11:38] <JustMozzy> wtf happened to nautilus in 16.04? I can't enter a file path, I cannot view hidden files... what happened?! and why?!
[11:40] <FireStriker> ?
[11:40] <FireStriker> Can you fill me in on more information if you have any more
[11:42] <OerHeks> JustMozzy, sure you can, ctrl + l ... wtf?
[11:43] <OerHeks> and hidden files is the same as always, see the manual
[11:43] <queen_tonic_> Hi
[11:44] <queen_tonic_> I have 4 volumes on my pc.. I want to install ubuntu. some one said that ms-dos system wont let more than 4 volumes or something... anyone one knows something?
[11:45] <OerHeks> queen_tonic_, true, mbr accepts 4 primairy partitions only, or 3 primairy and one extended, which can hold more than 4
[11:45] <OerHeks> else the new GPT does not have this limitation anymore
[11:45] <queen_tonic_> what is mbr? as full word?
[11:46] <ducasse> queen_tonic_: master boot record
[11:46] <OerHeks> thanks ducasse, i was waiting for someone not to be lazy :-D
[11:47] <ducasse> :)
[11:48] <queen_tonic_> thanks :)
[11:48] <queen_tonic_> http://prnt.sc/d5wnn8 which of those is wont hurt my system if I delete?
[11:49] <queen_tonic_> I need room for ubuntu
[11:49] <queen_tonic_> I backed up all data in partition D:
[11:49] <sruli> hi, very weird phenomenon, i wonder if someone can shed some light on it. on a particular wifi connection when i try to go to mega.nz i get a warning (in chrome and FF) that the ssl cert is wrong, on all other wifi networks i dont get this and it only effects mega.nz
[11:50] <queen_tonic_> how can I add that to C: without distrubing anything in C: where windows installed
[11:50] <OerHeks> queen_tonic_, none i think
[11:54] <sruli> i just tried mega.nz from a mobile device on that wifi, and its a redirect "website you are trying to visit offers content that is illegal according to belgain legislation"... i thought its only oppressive ragimes that filter the net
[11:55] <lucas-arg> hey there, any one solved tearing problem with nvidia drivers??
[11:55] <queen_tonic_> OerHeks is there a way to pull together C: and D: without not destroying the Windows installed on C:?
[11:55] <Guest80427> salut
[11:56] <Guest80427> fuck ouy mother
[11:56] <Guest80427> fuck you mother
[11:57] <laclinux> Ban <Guest80427>
[11:59] <OerHeks> queen_tonic_, "without not destroying the Windows".. better ask in ##windows, no clue if you can.
[11:59] <queen_tonic_> ok
[11:59] <queen_tonic_> thnx
[11:59]  * OerHeks bets you can destroy windows
[12:01] <queen_tonic_> OerHeks:  Tazmain  I don't think you can do that within windows.    Linux +  parted might be able to
[12:02] <queen_tonic_> OerHeks: Can I install ubuntu directly on D: as I have backedup everything I need in that partition?
[12:02] <creat> No
[12:03] <creat> Just backup to proper place, a separate HDD.
[12:04] <OerHeks> queen_tonic_, delete D: and let ubuntu fill the free space
[12:04] <creat> ^
[12:04] <creat> It is likely that your HDD is in MBR
[12:05] <creat> And it is recommended to have a swap
[12:05] <creat> So, you need one more partition
[12:10] <dalput> Is it possible that my ubuntu installation is a little bloated ? I'm using it since v13 or v14, now on Yakkety. There's mir, wayland, x11 and all of this installed, I don't even know what's being used because each upgrade keeps adding software. What can I safely remove ?
[12:12] <OerHeks> mir is a seperate session in yakkety, wayland????
[12:13] <dalput> OerHeks: what do you mean ?
[12:13] <ducasse> dalput: old packages would be removed on upgrade, use deborphan to look for 'leftovers'
[12:13] <OerHeks> dalput, not sure how you get wayland, ubuntu goes for MIR, a wayland fork.
[12:14] <ren0v0> has anyone has this issue with text in browser?  http://imgur.com/a/cdLv9
[12:14] <ren0v0> it only happens on ubuntu chrome/firefox, not windows
[12:14] <ren0v0> pulling my hair out
[12:14] <sir_redan> hello, i came here an hour or two ago with some backspace in terminal problems... it seems the problem was hardware related... as it persist through reinstallations
[12:18] <dalput> OerHeks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23460842/ there are installed
[12:18] <dalput> ducasse: thanks
[12:21] <sir_redan> https://puu.sh/seAe8/24df3432de.mp4 this is a video of the problem in action... this came to light trying to play a game... and this has a sample size of 2 computers... one does not have this problem, the other(this one) does have this problem
[12:21] <Unhammer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto#Getting_your_key_signed says to use only the last 8 chars of the fingerprints, but that's quite unsafe: https://evil32.com/ – I'm not able to log in to edit the page though, could anyone with access fix?
[12:21] <Unhammer> (I've got an Ubuntu account, but it just hangs when I try to get back to the page)
[12:22] <sir_redan> this problem is only a minor neusance tho
[12:22] <ducasse> Unhammer: try #ubuntu-doc
[12:24] <Unhammer> thanks ducasse
[12:26] <haasn> Package `update-notifier-common` installs a script `/etc/cron.daily/update-notifier-common` which always outputs `ttf-mscorefonts-installer: processing...` when run, on a daily basis, flooding my inbox with mails. (Trying to install ttf-mscorefonts-installer manually fails, which might be the reason why it keeps doing it every single day)
[12:28] <haasn> This seems like a number of connected bugs, but is there anything I can do to rectify the situation apart from just blacklisting ttf-mscorefonts-installer?
[12:29] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:30] <haasn> seems like ttf-mscorefonts-installer gets a HTTP 403 forbidden from sourceforge, but `curl -L URL` works fine
[12:30] <haasn> *oh*, found the issue
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> haasn  that's how good this channel is
[12:34] <haasn> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bug/801520 was spot on, apt caching proxy rejected the sourceforge URL. Doesn't explain why update-notifier-common insists on daily spam though)
[12:34] <mdd> hi
[12:35] <venoming> ask
[12:35] <mdd> which  vm software is better for ubuntu 14.04      ?
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> mdd  'better' depends on what you like most ... virtulabox is free and in the repos, vmware products are not
[12:36] <mdd> Vbox is free but very slow on AMD CPU
[12:37] <ducasse> mdd: if the cpu doesn't have vm extensions, all virt will be slow
[12:38] <mdd> ducasse :  it has vm extensions
[12:38] <ikonia> mdd: why do you think it's slow on amd
[12:38] <ikonia> it works fine on amd cpu's
[12:39] <mdd> because  i had a very old intel cpu on pc   and it could run vmbox very easy and soft   but on amd cpu that is quad core it is very slow
[12:39] <ikonia> mdd: thats not really a measure
[12:39] <ikonia> what virt extensions does the amd cpu/bios support
[12:41] <nullbyte_> i am with ubuntu 16.10 grub2, i can boot in GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX="1024x768" only Ubuntu (default) all another OS cannot be booted at this resolution, they are boot in default/text a bigger ones, how can i made boot 1024x768 for all OSs in grub?
[12:41] <ioria> mdd, egrep -c '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo
[12:41] <mdd> ioria : 4
[12:42] <ioria> mdd,  it's ok
[12:43] <nullbyte_> i mean i can't
[12:44] <ioria> mdd,  should be enabled in bios, clearly
[12:44] <mdd> ioria : it is enable
[12:44] <ioria> mdd,  ok
[12:45] <mdd> but i think amd cpu is very weak for vritulization
[12:53] <mdd> how is kvm commpared to  VBoX ?
[12:56] <ikonia> mdd: in what way compare
[12:57] <mdd> speed
[12:57] <ikonia> you can't measure it like that
[12:58] <ikonia> mdd: I'm not really accepting your "vbox is slow on amd" view point either so, I think it makes it even harder to quantify your needs
[12:58] <mdd> oh i see i have not installed graphic driver  on my laptop
[12:59] <mdd> let me install graphic driver then i will test again  and tell u
[13:00] <Guest90111> hey guys i forgot to check tcl version
[13:00] <Guest90111> what is the command via terminal again?
[13:00] <Guest90111> apt-cache tcl
[13:00] <Guest90111> something like that?
[13:01] <ikonia> apt-cache policy
[13:01] <EriC^^> apt-cache policy tcl
[13:01] <ikonia> or dpkg -l | grep tcl
[13:01] <aikawa> lexxx
[13:01] <Guest90111> well it work on fedora system?
[13:01] <Guest90111> apt-cache policy
[13:02] <EriC^^> no
[13:02] <jsieler[m]> Hi everyone
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> Guest90111  fedora is red hat based and doesnt use apt
[13:03] <Guest90111> ok
[13:03] <Guest90111> thanks
[13:05] <facteur> hi everybody
[13:06] <reisio> ohai
[13:08] <facteur> is someone can help me about this ? "/usr/bin/zic_statut: ligne 6 : [: == : opérateur unaire attendu"
[13:10] <facteur> PLEASE is someone can help me about this ? "/usr/bin/zic_statut: ligne 6 : [: == : opérateur unaire attendu"
[13:10] <ikonia> facteur: it looks like a badly written script
[13:10] <ikonia> with a missing operator (my french is poor)
[13:10] <EriC^^> facteur: try export LANG=C
[13:10] <EriC^^> then run the command
[13:10] <facteur> where can i ask about this ?
[13:10] <ikonia> facteur: what language is the script written in
[13:10] <EriC^^> !find zic_statut
[13:11] <EriC^^> facteur: ask the developer
[13:11] <facteur> can i paste my script here ?
[13:11] <ikonia> facteur: no
[13:11] <facteur> ok
[13:11] <EriC^^> facteur: it's your script or you downloaded it?
[13:11] <facteur> no mine entire script
[13:12] <EriC^^> facteur: upload it to paste.ubuntu.com
[13:12] <facteur> im using only ps aux if and crontab
[13:13] <facteur> ok i paste it to paste.ubuntu.com
[13:13] <Snarky> ping
[13:15] <dalput> what happens if I remove all mesa/3d libraries/drivers, will I have a working display after reboot ?
[13:16] <dalput> I'm on a built in vga, very old computer
[13:21] <facteur> it's ok, it must be "$Appui...." instead of $Appui... thank you Eric^^
[13:21] <EriC^^> no problem
[13:21] <EriC^^> if you wanna know the specifics /join #bash
[13:27] <nearffxx> hi
[13:29] <queen-tonic> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/235R4GL0/irccloudcapture1672023792.jpg
[13:29] <queen-tonic> This comes up when I choose that volume to install ubuntu
[13:29] <reisio> hi near
[13:29] <queen-tonic> Can some one help?
[13:30] <reisio> queen-tonic: it would seem it's not formatted
[13:30] <reisio> queen-tonic: there's probably an option to format it, perhaps if you right click
[13:30] <akik> queen-tonic: you haven't defined the root (/) partition
[13:30] <reisio> queen-tonic: oh, also you have to do what akik says, of course
[13:30] <reisio> might want a swap as well, lest ye useth a swap file
[13:30] <queen-tonic> Ext4 journaling file system is fine?
[13:31] <akik> queen-tonic: yes
[13:31] <queen-tonic> Wich should I choose
[13:31] <Guest69266> is there an opensource equivalent to google hangouts
[13:31] <Guest69266> would that be jitsi
[13:31] <queen-tonic> Boot home tmp usr
[13:31] <Guest69266> ?
[13:31] <queen-tonic> There is alot
[13:31] <akik> queen-tonic: the mount point for root file system is just /
[13:32] <queen-tonic> So not /boot or /home
[13:32] <Guest69266> queen-tonic, good ones
[13:32] <reisio> queen-tonic: as he said, / is root
[13:33] <queen-tonic> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/3X9iXwCJ/irccloudcapture-2002826849.jpg
[13:34] <queen-tonic> Shall I just continue?
[13:35] <akik> queen-tonic: it's usual that you create a swap partition too but it's not 100% required
[13:35] <akik> queen-tonic: it's needed if you want to hibernate your system
[13:36] <queen-tonic> Akik like sleep mode or what?
[13:36] <akik> queen-tonic: susped/sleep is different
[13:37] <reisio> "like" sleep mode, yes
[13:37] <akik> queen-tonic: hibernate is when you put the whole of your ram onto the disk and then shut down your machine completely
[13:37] <queen-tonic> Akik choosing a swap space? How do I do that
[13:37] <reisio> hibernate is what anybody purposefully sleeping actually wants :p
[13:37] <cfftrp> всем привет
[13:37] <cfftrp> руссские есть?
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[13:37] <cfftrp> !ru
[13:37] <akik> queen-tonic: it's just talking about creating a swap partition on the disk
[13:38] <sewerrat> #ubuntu-se
[13:38] <queen-tonic> Oh I cant do that
[13:38] <reisio> queen-tonic: same as for /, you need partition space and to assign it as swap
[13:38] <queen-tonic> I have already 4
[13:38] <reisio> queen-tonic: GNU/Linux doesn't care about partition types
[13:38] <queen-tonic> it wont let me for a 5th volume
[13:38] <reisio> doesn't need to be primary
[13:39] <smiche> why is ubuntu melting my laptop o.0?
[13:39] <Southern_Gentlem> queen-tonic, make one of the primaries extended
[13:39] <queen-tonic> Bmr wont let me do it
[13:39] <queen-tonic> Ah
[13:39] <queen-tonic> Can I doto that one?
[13:39] <queen-tonic> The one I am trying to install on?
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> queen-tonic  with sudo mkfs, you can create a partition and wake it swap
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> queen-tonic  then the partition is a normal file
[13:40] <queen-tonic> Can I add a swap partition aftwr I install?
[13:40] <queen-tonic> Or I have to do it now or never
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> queen-tonic  or with dd
[13:42] <queen-tonic> Can I do it later? Or it has to be done before installing he ubuntu?
[13:42] <Southern_Gentlem> queen-tonic, you should be able to do it in the installer
[13:43] <ioria> queen-tonic, as you said, you already have 4 partitions, so or you don't use swap, or make sda4 extended, or make a swap file
[13:43] <akik> queen-tonic: you can have partition 1-3 as primary partitions, then create the 4th as extended. then you can create logical partitions
[13:44] <akik> queen-tonic: you won't run out of partitions that way
[13:46] <queen-tonic> Extend or swap are those able to do it with ubuntu install screen rightnow?
[13:47] <reisio> should be, yeah
[13:47] <akik> queen-tonic: i think the installer has a choice for a primary or a logical partition when you press the plus sign
[13:47] <reisio> a swap file after the fact will also be fine
[13:47]  * reisio shrugs
[13:47] <reisio> I prefer swap as a partition, but for rare reason/s
[13:48] <queen-tonic> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/tFea9HVC/irccloudcapture-361521792.jpg
[13:48] <queen-tonic> Plus icon is no more active for this volume but it brings the same popup with Chane button
[13:50] <mdds> i can not install fglrx   for dependieces
[13:50] <mdds> how to solve this problem
[13:51] <nils__> moin
[13:52] <queen-tonic> Guys please I am stuck on install
[13:52] <queen-tonic> Can I swap file after I install ubuntu
[13:52] <nils__> kann bei 14.04 kein epsen drucker installiren
[13:52] <queen-tonic> Or extend the partition later
[13:53] <reisio> queen-tonic: the former is straightforward enough, the latter is problematic
[13:53] <akik> queen-tonic: is /dev/sda5 a logical partition now? is that a gpt partition table?
[13:53] <reisio> repartitioning now would be fairly straightforward, too, though
[13:54] <pattyneros> hi]
[13:54] <nils__> hallo jemand da
[13:54] <queen-tonic> Akik I deleted my D: partition and incrased C:
[13:54] <queen-tonic> akik: this sda5 is what's left
[13:54] <reisio> queen-tonic: if you don't need any of the other partitions you had there, you can just let Ubuntu do its own non-manual, guided installation
[13:55] <queen-tonic> It's my harddisk shared C and D partitions before
[13:55] <velus> hello all is there a problem with the SSO i cant seem to be able to sign in with my ubutu app install on the laptop
[13:55] <queen-tonic> I need other partitions
[13:56] <queen-tonic> The question is Can I create that Swap space later
[13:56] <queen-tonic> After I install
[13:57] <akik> queen-tonic: yes but if you now know your storage size, it could be easily created now
[13:57] <queen-tonic> How do I do that?
[13:57] <queen-tonic> Any. Youtube video?
[13:57] <akik> queen-tonic: press the + sign to create a swap partition, type logical
[13:58] <akik> queen-tonic: if you already allocated the whole disk, you need to do the root partition again
[13:58] <queen-tonic> + is not active no more
[13:58] <queen-tonic> I am on the limit of 4 volume bmr
[13:58] <akik> queen-tonic: after 3 primary partitions, create the 4th partition as type logical
[13:59] <akik> queen-tonic: then you can add as many partitions you want
[13:59] <queen-tonic> I should go back to windows for that
[13:59] <akik> i don't remember if the installer has a choice to create the extended partition, it's probably automatic
[13:59] <akik> queen-tonic: no, remove /dev/sda5 and do root and swap again
[14:00] <queen-tonic> + is not active pn ubuntu installation screen
[14:00] <akik> queen-tonic: did you remove /dev/sda5 ?
[14:00] <queen-tonic> No
[14:00] <queen-tonic> Shall I?
[14:00] <akik> queen-tonic: it's probably because you allocated the whole disk already
[14:01] <queen-tonic> Yeah no space left
[14:01] <queen-tonic> I hit the - buttom
[14:01] <queen-tonic> Now it shows as free space
[14:02] <queen-tonic> + active
[14:02] <queen-tonic> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/hS4K8X9U/irccloudcapture1128309850.jpg
[14:03] <akik> queen-tonic: there you go
[14:03] <queen-tonic> What do I do now?
[14:04] <akik> queen-tonic: add root as a logical partition, add swap as a logical partition
[14:04] <velus> how do i set up my accont so i dont have to keep putting in sudo all the time
[14:04] <pattyneros> yes
[14:05] <queen-tonic> U mean "use as" swap
[14:05] <EriC^^> velus: you can't
[14:05] <akik> queen-tonic: yes
[14:05] <EriC^^> velus: you can make it not ask for a password
[14:05] <queen-tonic> Akik how big it should be 10Gb?
[14:05] <pattyneros> yes swap
[14:05] <velus> how do you make it not ask for a password then?
[14:06] <EriC^^> velus: sudo visudo then add the line
	ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[14:06] <queen-tonic> akik: 10Gb is enough for swap?
[14:07] <akik> queen-tonic: for hibernate, make it the same size as your ram
[14:07] <Pharaoh> Hi! my Intel display shows up as unclaimed in lshw. How can I fix this?
[14:07] <queen-tonic> I have 8GB ram
[14:07] <akik> queen-tonic: maybe that's ok
[14:07] <queen-tonic> So exact 8 or 10 fine?
[14:08] <queen-tonic> 8Gb = how many mb? 8000?
[14:08] <akik> anybody else know if the hibernate needs the exact same partition size?
[14:08] <akik> queen-tonic: 8 gigabytes is 8192 megabytes
[14:08] <EriC^^> yeah it has to be hibernate + a few 100 mb
[14:08] <zykotick9> akik: it doesn't need to be exact!
[14:09] <reisio> ^
[14:09] <queen-tonic> Can I use 9718
[14:09] <queen-tonic> 9718mb
[14:09] <reisio> but you want it to be at least as much as your ram, if you plan on hibernating a full ram
[14:09] <reisio> if you have crazy amounts of ram, that becomes less likely
[14:09] <queen-tonic> And I will have like 200GB for ubuntu
[14:09] <reisio> queen-tonic: yes, that'll be fine
[14:09] <queen-tonic> Ok
[14:10] <velus-uni> EriC^^, i have done that and now im getting this sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 21 sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting...   sudo: unable to initialise policy plug-in
[14:10] <velus-uni> what do i do
[14:10] <EriC^^> velus-uni: what did you add to it exactly?
[14:10] <queen-tonic> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/aZzz23jU/irccloudcapture-106976695.jpg
[14:11] <queen-tonic> Continue...
[14:11] <ikonia> sounds like someone didn't use visudo
[14:11] <velus-uni> alan ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWRD: ALL
[14:11] <velus-uni> i did use visudo
[14:11] <EriC^^> NOPASSWRD or NOPASSWD ?
[14:12] <queen-tonic> For ubuntu
[14:12] <velus-uni> not sure think NOPASSWD
[14:12] <EriC^^> velus-uni: in the same terminal try sudo -i
[14:12] <queen-tonic> Shall I choose Primary or logical?
[14:12] <velus-uni> i get the same
[14:12] <queen-tonic> I have windows 7 also on that pc
[14:13] <EriC^^> velus-uni: boot into recovery mode to fix it
[14:13] <reisio> queen-tonic: doesn't matter
[14:13] <EriC^^> !recovery
[14:13] <reisio> Windows likes primary; GNU/Linux doesn't care at all
[14:13] <elias_> hello
[14:14] <queen-tonic> reisio: ok than I go with default (logical) beginning of this space.
[14:14] <MarGul> Hey guys. Trying to use ghostscript to convert PDF (all pages in the PDF) to jpg. I use. gs -sDEVICE=jpeg -o file-%03d.jpg -g700x989 test.pdf
[14:14] <MarGul> . But when I do this my image gets the right size but it doesn't scale the image down. Just kind of crops out the selected size (so my full PDF doesn't come into the jpeg). Any clue what I'm doing wrong?
[14:15] <velus> im doing that now
[14:15] <reisio> 'lo elias__
[14:16] <mdds> gnome-control-center : Depends: libcheese-gtk23 (>= 3.4.0) but it is not going to be installed
[14:16] <reisio> MarGul: I'd use imagemagick's convert for that
[14:17] <reisio> for i in *pdf; do convert "$i" -resize 700 "${i%.pdf}.jpg"; done
[14:17] <reisio> unless the images contain nothing but a bitmap, in which case I'd probably use pdfimages to dump the images, if I wanted the best quality
[14:19] <velus> thanks EriC^^ i have fixed it now it was PASSWRD i put but changed it now and it works fine
[14:19] <EriC^^> velus: great, no problem
[14:22] <velus> now EriC^^ i only have the problem with the ubuntu app installer it wont accept my details though they are right
[14:22] <mdds> how ubuntu is bad
[14:24] <MarGul> reisio: Is this for looping through the pages in the PDF? I will try it. But looks like you're looping through PDF files.
[14:25] <velus> ok EriC^^ it is still asking for the password
[14:25] <EriC^^> velus: you can't remove it for the software center, just sudo in the terminal
[14:26] <velus> i have sortyed the problem with the apps nwo but sudo is still aksing for a passsowrd
[14:27] <EriC^^> velus: try sudo -l
[14:27] <velus> ok im root now
[14:28] <EriC^^> try as your user
[14:28] <EriC^^> sudo -l not (L)
[14:28] <EriC^^> i mean L not i
[14:28] <velus> oh ok one sec
[14:28] <mdds> what is defference between fglrx and fglrx-update   ?
[14:30] <velus> i got may ruin the following (ALL : ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL and (ALL : ALL) ALL
[14:31] <zombiex> hello
[14:31] <velus> i have changed the admin and the sudo grops to the same there will only be me on as admin so shouldnt be a problem
[14:39] <mdds> who has Amd Cpu here  ?
[14:39] <ikonia> why ?
[14:40] <ikonia> why don't you just ask your real question
[14:42] <velus> i do
[14:42] <queen-tonic> reisio gone?
[14:43] <queen-tonic> akik: I am on linux now
[14:43] <typh> a
[14:43] <typh> bye
[14:43] <_adb> i have an ubuntu (14.04) server install that has a graphical desktop installed (openbox). i'd like to enable sticky keys (https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/a11y-stickykeys.html) but i'm having trouble finding the specific packages that provide this feature.
[14:47] <zprd> hey there
[14:47] <_adb> is this something that unity provides? can it be done in with other window managers?
[14:48] <zprd> is the moinmoin theme of the ubuntu wiki available somewhere?
[14:48] <captainfantastic> hello
[14:53] <akik> queen-tonic: nice. good luck
[14:54] <ducasse> _adb: i think that is an accessibility thing
[14:58] <NOVAtechies> hello all
[14:58] <_adb> ducasse: that's correct. sticky keys are an accessibility thing. it looks like the xkbset package may provide the feature? still looking into it
[14:58] <EriC^^> cal
[15:01] <Squarism> What is the recommended way of running typical "daemons" ?
[15:02] <EriC^^> Squarism: via the init system
[15:02] <EriC^^> which ubuntu do you have?
[15:02] <caco_> Hello Guys: I am trying to install ubuntu 16.04 on dual boot, with lvm. i create a /boot partition on xfs and then an lvm volume with several logical volumes for /, var, tmp, swap and home. Ubuntu installs, but when the laptop reboots, grub goes straight to terminal, not before sending a couple of "failure reading sector" errors. does anyone know how to troubleshoot that?
[15:02] <Squarism> 16.04 and 14.04
[15:02] <Squarism> --> EriC^^
[15:08] <rafal> Hello !
[15:08] <destini> hello Rafal...
[15:09] <Guest36014> How is everyone ?
[15:09] <paroxp> Goddamn it. I've got a trigger set when somebody mentions Rafal...
[15:09] <Guest36014> Why's that ?
[15:10] <paroxp> May I kindly ask you, to change your name? Something like Jan Kowalski perhaps?
[15:10] <Guest36014> Why does that sound familiar?
[15:10] <paroxp> It probably is familiar.
[15:11] <Guest36014> Do I know you ?
[15:12] <destini>  Rafal... we were talinkg about "the penis" last time...
[15:12] <destini> if you remember
[15:12] <SonikkuAmerica> ...
[15:13] <Guest36014> yes I remember you.
[15:13] <SonikkuAmerica> You'll not be talking about that again here.
[15:13] <Pici> Feel free to discuss whatever you want in PM, but #ubuntu is for Ubuntu tech support.
[15:13] <destini> Why have you nicked yoursefl as Guest36014?
[15:13] <destini> yourself
[15:13] <Guest36014> I don't know why it changed to that.
[15:13] <_adb> to enable stickykeys from terminal: sudo apt-get install xkbset; xkbset sticky # now to get openbox to execute this if shift is mashed 5+ times...
[15:16] <destini> Acting?
[15:16] <destini> Guest36014
[15:16] <destini> or is that so...???
[15:17] <ll_> hello
[15:17] <destini> Anyone here? who could help me build my own server on IRC?
[15:17] <ll_> 有没有中国人
[15:18] <Pici> destini: What kind of help were you looking for?
[15:18] <destini> Complete guidance...
[15:18] <rafal1> There we go.
[15:19] <destini> Yeah... There we go rafal
[15:19] <destini> but still as "rafal1"
[15:20] <rafal1> I guess someone else has rafal... I'm still trying to figure this CLI client out.
[15:20] <rafal1> And trying to write my own at the same time
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> !find rafal
[15:27] <queen-tonic> Driftnet -i eth0 returns: error: pcap_open_live: eth0: SIOCETHTOOL(ETHTOOL_GET_TS_INFO) ioctl failed: No such device
[15:28] <queen-tonic> any idea?
[15:28] <lorin> about?
[15:28] <queen-tonic> about why its failing?
[15:29] <wedgie> queen-tonic: is there an eth0?
[15:30] <queen-tonic> i am listening my own home wifi
[15:31] <wedgie> that isn't really an answer
[15:31] <queen-tonic> wedgie: it's probably not. cause I am not sure if I understand you...
[15:32] <queen-tonic> eth0 was always there when I try to do it on Kali...
[15:32] <wedgie> queen-tonic: is there a an interface called "eth0" on your system?
[15:32] <queen-tonic> I guess there is no on Uubuntu..
[15:32] <Fxkami> do you have a wlp1s0 interface or eth0 on your system?
[15:33] <wedgie> ''ip a''
[15:33] <queen-tonic> how do I download & install it via terminal?
[15:34] <wedgie> queen-tonic: the problem may be that your just using thenwrong interface name. use that command to see what interfaces you actually have and reference the correct one in your command
[15:34] <queen-tonic> wedgie:  how do I see that?
[15:34] <wedgie> ''ip a''
[15:36] <queen-tonic> so manny information
[15:37] <queen-tonic> wlp2s0
[15:37] <queen-tonic> or enp4s0
[15:37] <queen-tonic> where shall I focus? in that result?
[15:37] <rafal1> ip link list
[15:37] <wedgie> which one has an ip address?
[15:37] <forester> Hi. There are wine-devel and wine-staging. What is the difference and what should I prefer to install? And why?
[15:38] <queen-tonic> inet
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> forester  better ask in #winehq
[15:39] <forester> ok thanks
[15:40] <queen-tonic> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/WrgzHpsu/url
[15:40] <sarek> i tried to install mysql a while ago and failed now every time i install anything else, it keeps bugging me about mysql as if i am trying to install it still
[15:41] <velusuniverse> WHAT DOES IT MEAN WHEN IT SAYS SERVICE IS MASKED
[15:41] <velusuniverse> sorry fro caps
[15:41] <queen-tonic> wedgie: could you see the paste ?
[15:42] <EriC^^> velusuniverse: it means the service is disabled completely
[15:42] <EriC^^> nothing can make it run even if it has it listed as a dependency
[15:44] <velusuniverse> ok i wonder why munin master is doing that
[15:44] <wedgie> queen-tonic: is that the output of ''ip a'' ?
[15:45] <queen-tonic> inside the results?
[15:46] <queen-tonic> clear
[15:46] <jamie_1> love that you can run 32bit inside of 64bit.... makes things so much simpler
[15:46] <queen-tonic> sorry
[15:46] <wedgie> if i had to guess id say that wlp2s0 was your wireless interface
[15:47] <ihj> I am trying to install ubuntu to windows 10. But, my install environment doesn't have "install ubuntu alongside windows 10" option https://cms-images.idgesg.net/images/article/2015/07/install-ubuntu-alongside-windows-100599650-orig.png
[15:47] <ihj> why?
[15:47] <queen-tonic> crobot@crobot:~$ urlsnarf -i wlp2s0
[15:47] <queen-tonic> urlsnarf: wlp2s0: You don't have permission to capture on that device (socket: Operation not permitted)
[15:48] <auronandace> ihj: if you have msdos partitioning layout you can only have 4 primary partitions, do you already have 4?
[15:48] <EriC^^> ihj: did you used to have win8 and put win7?
[15:49] <ihj> auronandace, yes I only have 4.
[15:49] <ihj> I watched youtube videos, they have the extra "install ubuntu alongside windows 10" option
[15:49] <ihj> I don't know why my usb installer doesn't show it
[15:50] <EriC^^> ihj: open a terminal from the live session and type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:50] <EriC^^> and paste the link here
[15:50] <ihj> Eric, I don't have have ubuntu yet. I am trying to install it
[15:50] <EriC^^> ihj: restart and choose "try ubuntu"
[15:50] <auronandace> ihj: you can do that command from the liveusb
[15:51] <akik> queen-tonic: use "sudo urlsnarf -i wlp2s0" you need root access to monitor the network
[15:51] <Guest69266> does anyone know alternatives to papertrailapp.com
[15:51] <queen-tonic> akik:  urlsnarf: listening on wlp2s0
[15:54] <queen-tonic> oh it works with sudo...
[15:54] <queen-tonic> why I should add sudo before it?
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> sudo gives root permission
[15:56] <queen-tonic> Oh I see
[15:56] <SipriusPT_> hello guys, i am using linux for the first time and i have a noob question about user privileges imagine this if i have a folder with drwx------ and inside of that folder a file with -rw-r--r-- in practice with other non root or admin users will happen?
[15:57] <queen-tonic> well I do not see any traffic on targetted host
[15:57] <DArqueBishop> SipriusPT_: the non-root users won't be able to go into that directory so they can't access the file.
[15:58] <SipriusPT_> ah it was what i imagine! thanks a lot DArqueBishop!
[15:58] <DArqueBishop> SipriusPT_: in Linux, you need x permissions on a folder/directory to even be able to go into it.
[15:58] <samba35> if i am using nvidia gt620  pci-e 16x card which drivers i should ? from nvidia site or from ubuntu ? which driver i should use ?  is CUDA will help feature/perfomance  if i use that drivers ?
[15:58] <queen-tonic> driftnet screen brings nothing up
[15:58] <SipriusPT_> i see DArqueBishop, thank you very much!
[15:59] <DArqueBishop> SipriusPT_: no problem.
[16:01] <queen-tonic> akik:  and everyone here...
[16:01] <queen-tonic> thank you guys...
[16:01] <queen-tonic> for greate help
[16:02] <queen-tonic> *great
[16:03] <akik> queen-tonic: askubuntu.com is a good source for information
[16:03] <queen-tonic> yeah the first question should be why its lagging...
[16:04] <queen-tonic> My windows was working faster... I am shocked...
[16:04] <queen-tonic> how come ubuntu lagging while I open windows or typing here..
[16:04] <queen-tonic> I guess something wrong
[16:05] <jfmcarreira> heyy guys
[16:05] <jfmcarreira> i am trying to repair a ubuntu laptop.
[16:06] <jfmcarreira> how could i check the user name? since in the login menu it only appear the full name
[16:06] <queen-tonic> Memory uses 1,5 GiB (19,7%) of 7,8GiB RAM..
[16:06] <Fxkami> hey guys ... anyone know how to download darkweb browser for ubuntu ?
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> jfmcarreira  ctrl-alt-f1 ... then  who
[16:07] <jfmcarreira> but i cant login
[16:08] <jfmcarreira> MonkeyDust: ^
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> jfmcarreira  no, type it while you're in the login menu
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> press
[16:09] <crispycream> blah
[16:10] <crispycream> blah
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> crispycream  it works, we see you
[16:12] <rafal1> Hello
[16:13] <fsociety> hello
[16:14] <crispycream> Hello
[16:22] <crispycream> lol
[16:23] <crispycream> Hey everyone
[16:23] <rafal1> Hey
[16:23] <crispycream> Okay
[16:25] <wicki> hello
[16:27] <mdd> hi please help me
[16:28] <mdd> i installed fglrx-update on ubuntu 14.04     after  that  i can not login to ubuntu  only lock in ubuntu icon when it is loading
[16:30] <mdd> i installed fglrx-update on ubuntu 14.04     after  that  i can not login to ubuntu  only lock in ubuntu icon when it is loading
[16:40] <kgee> how do i get skype working on ubuntu 14.04
[16:40] <goodnooblike> Abend
[16:41] <genii> !skype | kgee
[16:41] <goodnooblike> Gibt es hier sowas wie ne Channel liste?
[16:42] <genii> !de | goodnooblike
[16:42] <akik> !alis | goodnooblike
[16:43] <kgee> thanks
[16:43] <mikubuntu> here's another one of those weird things going on with my 1604 lubuntu ... i thought there was some anomaly with youtube, because many videos the voice audio frequently sounded like everyone was inhaling helium. now, however i'm listening to a recording of a public meeting .mp3 on gnome player, and getting the same thing. any thoughts?
[16:45] <akkonrad> I have weird issue: I've extended bash history to infinity, but after each reboot my history is 500 entries long and I would like to be able to search further than this
[16:45] <akkonrad> I've changed already HISTSIZE=-1 HISTFILESIZE=-1 in ~/.profile
[16:45] <akkonrad> ubuntu 14.04
[16:46] <Jordan_U> akkonrad: What is the output of "echo $HISTSIZE"
[16:48] <rafal1> Ehllo
[16:48] <akkonrad> -1
[16:48] <akkonrad> Jordan_U, ^^
[16:50] <me-1> hi...is there any advantage of using 64 bit Ubuntu over 32 bit one . I have old laptop with 2GB ram and an average user
[16:51] <ikonia> me-1: not really
[16:51] <Jordan_U> akkonrad: Please pastebin your ~/.profile .
[16:51] <ikonia> support is shifting more towards 64 bit these days
[16:51] <rafal1> What is the machine itself?
[16:52] <me-1> ikonia,  so I should install 32 bit LTS version as I am not a power user
[16:52] <compdoc> use the 64bit version
[16:52] <compdoc> nothing to do with powerful ppl
[16:53] <Jordan_U> me-1: Yes, I would recommend using 64 bit. It allows code to use more CPU instructions, is better supported, means that you can easily image the OS and move it to a 32 GiB of RAM machine in the future, etc.
[16:53] <me-1> rafal1,  it is a windowsv ista laptop with amd cpu and 2 gb ram
[16:53] <akkonrad> https://www.pastery.net/hjuyxf/ Jordan_U
[16:54] <me-1> Jordan_U, I am assuming 64 bit OS requires more resources
[16:54] <Jordan_U> me-1: A little more RAM, but I think the trade off is worth it.
[16:56] <Jordan_U> akkonrad: You may need to export it. But ask in #bash.
[16:56] <gregoirenoire> I'm locked out of my desktop environment! Help!
[16:56] <me-1> Jordan_U, ikonia  OK. Thank you guys . I will use 64 bit
[16:56] <gregoirenoire> I was getting an error about lvmetad and then it'd fall back to the lock/login screen
[16:56] <ikonia> whats the error
[16:56] <gregoirenoire> so I reinstalled the desktop environment from the command line and now I can't get back in
[16:56] <ikonia> I suspect it can't write to your home directory
[16:56] <ikonia> why did you re-install the desktop env ?
[16:57] <gregoirenoire> thats what they recommended on here last night!
[16:57] <ikonia> I don't see anyone suggesting that in last nights log
[16:57] <gregoirenoire> I was getting this error: failed to connect to lvmetad falling back to device default
[16:58] <backbox> ola
[16:58] <gregoirenoire> maybe it was #ubuntu-mate irc channel?
[16:58] <ikonia> yes, you said that, hence why I'm asking about LVM
[16:58] <backbox> hacking
[16:58] <ikonia> gregoirenoire: I suspect your home directory can't be written to, so it drops back to login (assumption)
[16:58] <ikonia> you'll need to look at the exact error
[16:59] <gregoirenoire> how can I do that from command prompt?
[16:59] <ikonia> do what ?
[16:59] <gregoirenoire> @ikonia view exact error?
[16:59] <ikonia> you're telling me the error....so it must be visible to you
[16:59] <gregoirenoire> it was visible to me
[17:00] <ikonia> maybe I'm jumping the gun then, what is your current problem - not what you had, your current problem
[17:00] <gregoirenoire> now the gui just flashes, no error message
[17:00] <gregoirenoire> and then back to lock/login screen
[17:00] <gregoirenoire> i can login fine via command line if I ctrl+alt+f1
[17:00] <ikonia> ok - so look in your home at the logs in your home directory, try to write a file in your home directory
[17:00] <ikonia> (as your nomral user, not root)
[17:01] <gregoirenoire> looks like I can do that just fine
[17:01] <ikonia> look in the xessions log file in your home directory
[17:01] <gregoirenoire> I logged in and made a file in home directory
[17:02] <ikonia> gregoirenoire: how did you make a file
[17:02] <ikonia> lets just clarify what you're doing
[17:02] <gregoirenoire> touch test.txt
[17:02] <ikonia> ok, great
[17:03] <ikonia> and thats as a non-privileged user
[17:03] <gregoirenoire> yeah
[17:03] <ppf> which DE?
[17:03] <ikonia> perfect
[17:03] <ikonia> so you need to look at the xsession error now
[17:03] <gregoirenoire> ubuntu-mate 16.10
[17:03] <ikonia> see whats actually going on when the session tries to launch
[17:05] <Banzaii>  
[17:05] <Banzaii>  
[17:05] <gregoirenoire> how do I view just the last few lines?
[17:05] <Banzaii>  
[17:05] <ikonia> tail
[17:05] <ikonia> Banzaii: what's up ?
[17:05] <Banzaii>  OKay
[17:05] <Banzaii>  
[17:05] <Banzaii>  
[17:05] <ikonia> Banzaii: please stop posting empty lines
[17:06] <gregoirenoire> uggghhh. ok let me hand-type this into a pastebin
[17:06] <ikonia> why don't you just copy it off ?
[17:07] <jrg18> im new to this, what is it all about?
[17:08] <jrg18> is this like the early 2000 chat rooms?
[17:08] <nacc> jrg18: this is the ubuntu support channel
[17:09] <genii> "Dear CIBC: Bank statements which are intended for your Wood Gundy branch at 181 Bay Street, Suite 600 keep arriving here at 600 Bay Street. I was unaware until recently that you have 75 financial advisors at your Wood Gundy branch. Please rectify. ... Caretaker, 600 Bay Street"
[17:09] <Pici> genii: mispaste?
[17:09] <genii> Yes
[17:09] <jrg18> ok, to discuss issues and fixes with ubuntu?
[17:10] <jophish> hi all
[17:10] <gregoirenoire> http://pastebin.com/4Fz5FWkv
[17:11] <jrg18> hey jophish
[17:11] <jophish> Is it possible to rotate a monitor on a laptop with a hybrid GPU setup?
[17:11] <melt> hi, i have a 16.04 all customized and i am trying to clone it onto a different ssd. i am using dd and no matter what, on botting the clone, i get "Geom Error" when grub starts. this never happened before with ubuntu or debian for me. what am i missing?
[17:11] <jophish> I'm not able to, and it would be nice to be able to rotate my external monitor
[17:11] <Pici> jrg18: yep, we also have a number of other channels, some for support, some for other Ubuntu discussion: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[17:12] <androidabc> hi to connect an android device to usb and to android-studio udev rules are required, but I have ubuntu 16.04 so there must be something different I have to do, can anyone suggest what has to be done?
[17:12] <jrg18> thanx Pici
[17:14] <jophish> androidabc: have you reloaded the udev rules?
[17:14] <rafal> Hello
[17:14] <jophish> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/39370/how-to-reload-udev-rules-without-reboot
[17:15] <androidabc> Ithought ubuntu doesnt use udev anymore?
[17:15] <ikonia> it does
[17:15] <androidabc> oh ok then question was plain stupid sorry
[17:16] <gregoirenoire> #ikonia http://pastebin.com/4Fz5FWkv
[17:17] <ikonia> gregoirenoire: look at the time stamps, is that at the same time you logged in
[17:17] <ikonia> gregoirenoire: (delete the file - reboot and try to login and see what the file says if you want to be sure)
[17:34] <BlackDeath> i work on a gaming virtual Maschine but  the host dont scale the CPU if the guest  need it. someone can Hepp me?
[17:35] <ikonia> BlackDeath: do you mean dynamic adjustment of speed/performance on the guest cpu
[17:35] <alexviseu> Just installed ubuntu 12.04 (Desktop's ISO) and it boots to the terminal?
[17:36] <jatt> 12.04 why?
[17:36] <BlackDeath> ikonia: no on the host CPU the clock is permanent 1.4 GHz
[17:37] <IznogooD> So I got an SSD for my lenox desktop and I am going to Install 16.04 but it refuses to boot after installation has finished, with secureboot, without UEFI legacy you name it. Without a windows in the disk it wont boot. Im sure this has nothing to do with ubuntu but it just makes me so mad!
[17:38] <IznogooD> lenox = lenovo
[17:38] <alexviseu> Nevermind, need to install 14.04
[17:38] <BlackDeath> ikonia: my CPU is a AMD FX 9590
[17:38] <IznogooD> (lenox is my clever hostname...)
[17:38] <jatt> 16.04 is latest LTS
[17:43] <mikubuntu> here's another one of those weird things going on with my 1604 lubuntu ... i thought there was some anomaly with youtube, because many videos the voice audio frequently sounded like everyone was inhaling helium. now, however i'm listening to a recording of a public meeting .mp3 on gnome player, and getting the same thing. any thoughts?
[17:43] <alexviseu> Didn't know there was a new one out. Awesome. Planning on using it as a dev machine for testing servers hosted on 14.04 though. Are there many differences?
[17:43] <ismail_> hi !
[17:45] <I-am-Groot> Is there a way to determine if ubuntu is actually using my Graphic Card?
[17:45] <ikonia> I-am-Groot: you can see it on screen ?
[17:46] <nacc> I-am-Groot: do you mean you have two graphics adapters?
[17:47] <I-am-Groot> ikonia, yes
[17:47] <I-am-Groot> nacc, No i think its just one
[17:47] <I-am-Groot> Okay let me explain in full
[17:47] <ikonia> I-am-Groot:  if you have something on screen....it's using your graphics car
[17:47] <ikonia> card
[17:48] <I-am-Groot> I have an old Sony Vaio Laptop with an i3 processor and 4GB ram
[17:48] <I-am-Groot> And i tried installing Ubuntu, but i kept getting this slow UI...so i was told to try Lubuntu.
[17:49] <I-am-Groot> Lubuntu seems to run fine but there are some weird things going on, like the display brightness wont change even after installing backlight
[17:49] <ikonia> I'm waiting for the bit where you explain "using your graphics card"
[17:49] <ikonia> as backlight and brightness have nothing to do with your card
[17:50] <OerHeks> lspci -k | egrep -i 'vga|in use' | grep -i vga -A 1
[17:50] <I-am-Groot> Also, when i try to watch videos in full screen mode, i get choppy playback
[17:50] <rudy_72> dramuy
[17:50] <I-am-Groot> ikonia, Am getting to that
[17:50] <siorai> I just had one *hell* of a time getting my AE6000 wifi dongle to work on ubuntu 16.04
[17:50] <OerHeks> old vaio .. sounds like old intel GPU, 3rd gen
[17:51] <ikonia> siorai: and ?
[17:51] <I-am-Groot> I also have to add nomodeset to the kernel boot parameter in start up on grub else i get a blck screen
[17:51] <I-am-Groot> OerHeks, Okay..am gonna try that
[17:52] <I-am-Groot> OerHeks, i run the command and got.. VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[17:53] <I-am-Groot> Kernel driver in use: mei_me
[17:53] <nacc> 'mei_me'??
[17:54] <I-am-Groot> yea
[17:54] <nacc> that seems odd, I thought mei was for the Intel MEI stuff
[17:54] <I-am-Groot> So what could be the problem
[17:54] <OerHeks> nacc, it is.
[17:55] <I-am-Groot> Whats intel MEI?
[17:55] <nacc> OerHeks: does MEI also do graphics?
[17:55] <nacc> I-am-Groot: "Intel Management Engine Interface"
[17:55] <I-am-Groot> OOhkay
[17:56] <crayon> kunwon1,
[17:57] <crayon> kunwon1, you there?
[17:57] <I-am-Groot> Another thing is that, in System Profiler and Benchmark Program, under OpenGL Renderer, it says Unknown
[17:58] <I-am-Groot> Makes me think its either using wrong drivers or some generic drivers for my VGA card
[18:02] <I-am-Groot> What am i to do? Looking at my screen with full brightness is very eye straining
[18:02] <I-am-Groot> What am i to do? Looking at my screen with full brightness is very eye straining
[18:03] <I-am-Groot> Hello?
[18:07] <texla> I-am-Groot, system settings brighteness and lock
[18:08] <I-am-Groot> texla, am on Lubuntu. There isnt a brightness option
[18:09] <Guest41629> Good day !
[18:10] <I-am-Groot> Is there a way i could update my graphic driver?
[18:11] <ioria> I-am-Groot, can you paste sudo lshw -c Video ?
[18:12] <Sircle>  can I install squid on a single machine and use it on that machine for cacheing/acl etc and maybe later for other machines?
[18:12] <I-am-Groot> Okay
[18:17] <I-am-Groot> ioria, Hold on, pastebinit is taking too long
[18:20] <I-am-Groot> ioria, there http://paste.ubuntu.com/23462150/
[18:20] <ioria> I-am-Groot, the intel driver it's not loaded ..
[18:21] <ioria> I-am-Groot,   grep BOOT_IMAGE  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:22] <I-am-Groot> ioria, Okay.. just a sec as i paste the command
[18:22] <I-am-Groot> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23462150/
[18:23] <ioria> I-am-Groot,  wrong paste
[18:23] <I-am-Groot> Oh
[18:23] <ioria> I-am-Groot,  just 2 line, you can paste here
[18:23] <I-am-Groot> ioria, Isnt this the command? grep BOOT_IMAGE  /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[18:24] <ioria> I-am-Groot,  yep
[18:24] <I-am-Groot> This is what i get from that command..[    17.813] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-24-generic root=UUID=90729072-d859-49ff-9c64-14b296fb5845 ro quiet splash nomodeset vt.handoff=7
[18:24] <ioria> I-am-Groot,  why are you using nomodeset ?
[18:25] <nacc> also, not running updates or security?
[18:25] <I-am-Groot> ioria, because without it, i get a blackscreen
[18:25] <ioria> I-am-Groot,  and why  a so old kernel ? 3.13. is 101 now
[18:26] <melt> hi, i have a 16.04 all customized and i am trying to clone it onto a different ssd. i am using dd and no matter what, on botting the clone, i get "Geom Error" when grub starts. this never happened before with ubuntu or debian for me. what am i missing? Could it be UEFI related?!?
[18:26] <I-am-Groot> ioria, Am i supposed to update it? THats what came with the iso when i installed it.
[18:28] <PsychoBoB> Hey, I need to join in ubuntu-br
[18:28] <ioria> I-am-Groot,  you need to update your system
[18:29] <kostkon> !pt | PsychoBoB
[18:29] <I-am-Groot> ioria, cant i just update the kernel? I have a very limited internet connectivity here. I use mobile data, so downloading huge updates would cost a lot
[18:30] <ioria> I-am-Groot,  how often do you update your box ?
[18:32] <I-am-Groot> ioria, I just installed this about 2 days ago
[18:32] <ioria> I-am-Groot,  so you installed from a very old media
[18:33] <I-am-Groot> Yea... I downloaded the iso "Lubuntu 14.04" about a year and a half ago
[18:33] <I-am-Groot> :|
[18:33] <ioria> I-am-Groot,  no good
[18:34] <I-am-Groot> ioria, do they update the isos as time goes on?
[18:34] <ioria> I-am-Groot,  yes
[18:34] <PsychoBoB> kostkon,
[18:34] <PsychoBoB> Cannot join #ubuntu-br (You are banned).
[18:35] <hjukj5> I-am-Groot: it is 14.04.5 now
[18:35] <I-am-Groot> ioria, Am not talking about from 14.04 to 14.10. What i mean is do they keep updating the same 14.04 iso over time?
[18:35] <I-am-Groot> ooh okay
[18:35] <ioria> I-am-Groot,  yes
[18:35] <delinquentme> .join #math
[18:35] <I-am-Groot> ioria, I didnt know that
[18:36] <I-am-Groot> delinquentme, its /join
[18:36] <ioria> I-am-Groot,  and iirc, there was a critical kernel update time ago ...
[18:36] <hjukj5> I-am-Groot: also, using Linux on a metered connection is not a good idea
[18:36] <melt> hi, i have a 16.04 all customized and i am trying to clone it onto a different ssd. i am using dd and no matter what, on botting the clone, i get "Geom Error" when grub starts. this never happened before with ubuntu or debian for me. what am i missing? Could it be UEFI related?!?
[18:37] <compdoc> melt, sounds like a size problem
[18:37] <I-am-Groot> ioria, Can i update just the just the kernel... just until i can go back to the city to do a complete update?
[18:37] <compdoc> melt, ever try clonezilla?
[18:37] <I-am-Groot> hjukj5, Okay.
[18:37] <ioria> I-am-Groot,  yes, you can
[18:38] <ioria> I-am-Groot,   sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[18:38] <I-am-Groot> ioria, It will fix the graphic driver issue i pressume?
[18:38] <ioria> I-am-Groot,   but does not make much sense, trust me
[18:39] <I-am-Groot> ioria, Sorry, didnt get ur last
[18:39] <I-am-Groot> ioria, could u rephrase?
[18:39] <ioria> I-am-Groot,  you probably have a tons of libs and apps to upgrade
[18:39] <I-am-Groot> ioria, OOh okay...
[18:40] <crayon> kunwon1, you there?
[18:40] <Soichi> Hi, im running xenial on an HP Zbook and seems like the brightness controls not working. Any hints?
[18:40] <ioria> I-am-Groot,   with the same bandwitch you download a new 14.04 or a 16.04 iso
[18:41] <hjukj5> ioria: you can upgrade from iso?
[18:42] <ioria> hjukj5, in chroot you mean ?
[18:42] <I-am-Groot> ioria, I am trying to get ubuntu working on this PC, once i get my Latitude E6420 fixed, i would stop using this PC... I had working ubuntu 14 on that laptop.
[18:42] <I-am-Groot> THis is kinda like a temporal fix
[18:42] <hjukj5> ioria: no, by the live cd
[18:42] <ioria> hjukj5,   once there was that feature i think
[18:44] <I-am-Groot> thanks ioria
[18:45] <ioria> I-am-Groot,  no prob
[18:48] <rafal1> Hello
[18:51] <JohnTalent> vlc acts weird under Ubuntu.
[18:51] <JohnTalent> on m motherboard i can't restore a window (as in not max, not min).
[18:51] <JohnTalent> s/m/my
[18:51] <JohnTalent> s/a window/a vlc window
[18:58] <Sir_Andrei> Hi
[18:58] <Sir_Andrei> Ppl, i've a question about ssh
[18:58] <Sir_Andrei> Im trying to forward Pulseaudio in Ubuntu 16.04 (both machines have it)
[18:59] <Sir_Andrei> But the direction xprops showsme's really strange
[19:00] <Sir_Andrei> PULSE_SERVER(STRING) = "{asdjasdalotofhexcharacters}unix:run/user/1000/pulse/native"
[19:00] <Sir_Andrei> xprop didn't show the port and that stuffs
[19:06] <zphinx> Is there any way on ubuntu to install a .deb file and have all the dependencies pulled without using software centre?
[19:06] <bekks> No.
[19:06] <zphinx> so xorg is a must then?
[19:06] <bekks> zphinx: Dependencies from a .deb file (not originating from the ubuntu repos) arent pulled automatically, at all.
[19:06] <bekks> No.
[19:07] <bekks> zphinx: Which package in question do you want to install?
[19:07] <zphinx> unity3d
[19:07] <nacc> zphinx: some tools can do it, e.g., gdebi
[19:08] <zphinx> nacc: which is gtk?
[19:09] <nacc> zphinx: gdebi-gtk is
[19:09] <nacc> zphinx: gdebi is not
[19:10] <zphinx> it tries to pull gtk and the gnome icon theme
[19:10] <SMR-1> hello
[19:10] <nacc> zphinx: oh i see, an artifact of the packaging, yes
[19:10] <nacc> zphinx: i only said the tool can do it, didn't mention the package it's in
[19:11] <nacc> zphinx: but if you're trying to install unity3d, seems like you could install that first
[19:11] <nacc> zphinx: alternatively, can use `dpkg -i` and then `apt-get -f install` but it can sometimes get stuck (and if the dependencies aren't satisfiable, you might have to manually back the package back out)
[19:12] <benguitar> Hello, could someone give me some input on what I'm doing wrong with modifying my /etc/security/limits.conf file? I'm trying to set my max amount of locked memory, and I've found a ton of articles on things to try, but none of them seem to apply the changes.
[19:13] <nacc> benguitar: it would be good to provide more details: what are your modifications (a diff in a pastebin, maybe) and what the result is
[19:13] <nacc> benguitar: also, did you read `man limits.conf`
[19:14] <benguitar> nacc: Please forgive me as well, I've only been using Ubuntu for 2-3 days now.
[19:15] <wedgie> benguitar: also which release are you using
[19:15] <nacc> wedgie: good point
[19:16] <benguitar> I know that I've tried it both under my user using vi, gedit or Pluma, which are all read-only, but I've also switched users via terminal and gone root, launched the same limits.conf and made the modifications per online forums, saved the file (without any errors) and even after reboot nothing changes, my ulimit -a still says "max locked memory 64"
[19:16] <nacc> benguitar: ok, you need to provide the details i requested, if possible -- note that generally don't use su on Ubuntu; use sudo
[19:17] <benguitar> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Budgie
[19:17] <nacc> benguitar: please pastebin `cat /etc/security/limits.conf` (if there's anyting that you are worried about sharing in there (i can't think of anything)
[19:17] <Eduard_Munteanu> ulimits are set by the user profile IIRC, and in turn are limited by limits.conf.
[19:18] <Eduard_Munteanu> If limits.conf has been tweaked, you should be able to increase/modify the ulimit.
[19:18] <lucas-arg> hey all, is there any way i can use a xorg.conf file?? ubuntu doesnt let me use it... lightdm everything i cant configure xorg like i want!
[19:18] <benguitar> should I paste my results from terminal or is there a way to better share it?
[19:18] <nacc> pastebinit | benguitar
[19:18] <nacc> !paste | benguitar
[19:19] <nacc> !pastebinit | benguitar: sorry about that, this is the on you want ...
[19:19] <kernello> hello everyone, I have headphones attached and I've just heard random short shrill noises while all I'm doing is open usual programs..what might this have been?
[19:19] <nacc> lucas-arg: what do you mean? generally you don't need an xorg.conf anymore, but if you put one in place, ti will be used
[19:20] <kernello> or did this ever happen to you?
[19:20] <benguitar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23462411/
[19:20] <Eduard_Munteanu> kernello, check if there's an unmuted microphone control
[19:20] <nacc> benguitar: all of your lines are commented out
[19:20] <lucas-arg> nacc, i make one but ubuntu overwrites all i put in there cant use it
[19:20] <nacc> benguitar: that means they are ignored
[19:20] <nacc> benguitar: remove the leading # from the lines you want to use
[19:20] <nacc> benguitar: then logout/login
[19:21] <benguitar> Wow, silly me.
[19:21] <benguitar> Lets give that a try.
[19:21] <nacc> lucas-arg: 'overwrites'? do you mean it overrides it at run-time? or do you mean your file gets replaced? what version of ubuntu
[19:21] <kernello> Eduard_Munteanu, do I check it from Sound> Settings for Internal Microphone ?
[19:22] <Eduard_Munteanu> kernello, sorry, no Ubuntu available right now, check the mixer.
[19:24] <benguitar> Thank you SO much for that, as I'm new to all this I had no idea that # meant to comment out which ignores everything.
[19:24] <nacc> benguitar: that's a general unix-y thing. Not every file uses # for comments, but most of the .conf stuff o
[19:25] <benguitar> Good to know, any recommendations on good resourses to read for unix and linux-y stuff?
[19:27] <kernello> Eduard_Munteanu, I dont find a mixer, or dont know which controls you refer to..but I changed the mic setting
[19:27] <Bray90820> So my CherryTrail surface 3 running ubuntu 16.10 freezes on high cpu load and I need to hard shutdown my system here are some error from when it froze while playing a bluray rip
[19:27] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw/sQJQHqyV
[19:27] <kernello> Eduard_Munteanu, thank you for your help.
[19:28] <nacc> benguitar: i'd start with the manual, if you're really new to ubuntu
[19:28] <kernello> maybe it will fix it
[19:28] <nacc> !manual | benguitar
[19:28] <nacc> benguitar: then look around the wiki as you go based upon areas you are interested in
[19:29] <nacc> Bray90820: it froze and you were still able to get the errors?
[19:29] <nacc> Bray90820: none of those are the reason for the freeze
[19:30] <benguitar> Sweet! Thank you very much, my definite goal is to move from Logic Pro to Ardour (or Bitwig if I can afford it one day) but I'd like to use a Linux distro as my daily driver OS for everything and then maybe still have a machine with Windows on it soley for my gaming library, unless there is a good way to play Windows specific games without a performance hit.
[19:30] <Bray90820> nacc: Those are errors i pulled from syslog during the time of the error but after I rebooted
[19:31] <Bray90820> If that makes sense
[19:31] <nacc> Bray90820: *if* your system really hard froze, it will have stopped logging errors to disk
[19:31] <nacc> Bray90820: so syslog isn't useful
[19:32] <Bray90820> nacc: So then how can I further go about diagnosing the issue
[19:33] <nacc> Bray90820: I'm not sure -- for servers, I'd suggest a serial console or the IPMI/BMC console; your cherry-trail system won't have those :)
[19:33] <nacc> Bray90820: i wonder if you're tripping a hardware failure? maybe overheating?
[19:34] <Bray90820> nacc: That's what i was thinking a few days ago and attempted to turn of thermal control but not sure if I successfully did or not
[19:35] <Bray90820> I should also note a stress test of the processor made if freeze but VLC played it fine until I opened the unity dash
[19:37] <Bray90820> nacc: What I am thinking I should do is reinstall windows and run a CPU stress test and see if it freezes
[19:37] <nacc> Bray90820: seems reasonable
[19:37] <nacc> Bray90820: i mean, surface is a microsoft product, right? they might be doing something funky to make it work
[19:38] <Bray90820> nacc: Microsoft might be doing something funky?
[19:38] <Bray90820> nacc: I did check the temp a few seconds before it froze and it was at about 60C
[19:40] <Bray90820> nacc: I should also note I was getting an outrageous about of freezing in the browser until I turned off wi-fi power management
[19:40] <Bray90820> So you think I should try windows to test it?
[19:41] <nacc> Bray90820: microsoft could easily be doing something specific to their own hardware in windows that linux would never know about
[19:42] <nacc> Bray90820: wouldn't be the first vendor that did that; and i assume microsoft has no interest in supporting linux on surface*
[19:42] <Bray90820> Yeah but if i do try windows at least I'll know if there is a hardware issue or not
[19:43] <nacc> Bray90820: right, but you won't know if there is a hardware *support* issue or not
[19:44] <Bray90820> Correct but the first step is seeing if the hardware is broken
[19:52] <gianpc> irc.priv8.jp
[19:52] <gianpc> #xncrew
[19:53] <jelly_> why don't ppa's ever support yakkety?
[19:53] <jelly_> it's annoying.
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> jelly_  what brings you here
[19:54] <fabrizio_> i just test
[19:58] <dr4c4n> Hi, I'm affected by this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1567744 and I'm wondering how to change the name of my ethernet dongle using udev rules as suggested by another user in the comments section, however I don't know how to do this, and there aren't any instructions listed. Can anyone help me?
[20:04] <ioria> dr4c4n, basically he set  net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0  as kern boot option and changed the interface name
[20:05] <dr4c4n> thanks ioria
[20:05] <ioria> dr4c4n, you can do the first in /etc/default/grub and the second with this http://askubuntu.com/questions/689501/how-to-rename-network-interface-in-15-10
[20:06] <ioria> dr4c4n,  sudo update-grub after the first
[20:09] <dr4c4n> Thanks a lot ioria, I will be testing this weekend on new server setup at home, as I needed it to connect to a vlan
[20:09] <ioria> dr4c4n,  good luck
[20:21] <cdorsal> I'm having trouble passing an incoming UDP packet from one system, through my ubuntu router, to another system. I can receive the UDP packet 172.16.101.1.59117 > 239.252.101.6.60106 because I have added 239.252.101.6 via "ip add maddr" but my system listening on the other end cannot see any of the udp traffic. Please help! This is tricky.
[20:23] <cdorsal> My system is configured as follows windows (172.16.101.1) <- eth0 -> ubuntu (172.16.3.1) <- wlan1 -> windows (172.16.4.101)
[20:29] <yee> hello
[20:29] <WebWalker> hi yee
[20:31] <nacc> cdorsal: sorry, i don't much about networking, hopefully someone else can help
[20:40] <tima> What do you think about SRWare Iron browser?
[20:50] <WebWalker> Hello
[20:58] <freakyy> hi all. im running ubuntu-gnome and since a recent upgrade i dont know, my X Server wont boot anymore.it hangs at loading nvidia persistance daemon or something, and no gui comes up. it keeps restarting, but it doesnt actually work running. i dont know what i did. can anyone help me? i cant burn an iso image as my burdner doesnt work :(
[20:59] <acracia_> Hola, alguien que hable español?
[20:59] <acracia_> tengo un problemita :(
[21:00] <Bashing-om> !es | acracia_
[21:00] <Bashing-om> freakyy: Check the Xorg.log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log); see what X thinks .
[21:01] <acracia_> #ubuntu-es
[21:01] <plopp> Hi I'm running a nodejs app with pm2 on ubuntu and I keep getting an Unexpected token { error, I think that this can be due to the version of nodejs that pm2 use, but how can I know what version of nodejs pm2 uses? maybe I'm on the wrong channel? there is no pm2 channel :/
[21:02] <freakyy> also the update-manager is missing and so on
[21:02] <freakyy> wait ill check
[21:03] <mystiiq> Hi, I created ad-hoc network on my old IBM laptop. The throughput is super slow in the network, i.e. ibm connects to the world 4mb/sec and wi-fi client on the ad-hoc has speed of 400kb/sec. How can I troubleshoot what is the problem? Wonder if its some kind of packet drop or something.
[21:04] <younder> mystiiq, well there is wireshark
[21:05] <velus> how do i run two versions of gcc and g++ but be able to switch the versions easy
[21:05] <freakyy> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23462858/
[21:05] <freakyy> if thats not working then its https
[21:06] <freakyy> Bashing-om: r u checking?
[21:06] <freakyy> i dont know what its caused by i already checked that file but it doesnt tell me anything
[21:06] <younder> velus, Tu just give them diffrent names. On my machine gcc is gcc 4.8 while iI use gcc-7 for cutting edge stuff.
[21:07] <freakyy> or can anyone els ehelp me? my system wont boot into graphics mode it hangs ive put up the xorg log file
[21:07] <younder> velus, Then in the make file set CC= <the gcc name>
[21:08] <Bashing-om> freakyy: I will look for ya .. see if I see something . stand by .
[21:08] <freakyy> Bashing-om: thank you so much!! :)
[21:08] <freakyy> btw, ive installed (after it didnt work) the package nvidia-current
[21:08] <freakyy> still it didnt work
[21:09] <freakyy> i maybe did a apt-get autoremove but nothing more
[21:09] <freakyy> i think
[21:09] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic
[21:19] <hhee1> guys, where can i ask about default color in midnight commander? in xubuntu 12 it's quite beautiful, in 16.10 it,s default blue background and so on
[21:20] <freakyy> Bashing-om: could u find osmething?
[21:21] <Bashing-om> freakyy: Ouch ! " (WW) xf86CloseConsole: KDSETMODE failed: Input/output error " . What  results when thge TV is not connected as the monitor device ? .. and also what do you see with key combo ' ctl+alt+F2 ' . This is the 1st I have seen that VR2 is active with " quiet splash vt.handoff=7 " .
[21:22] <Bashing-om> VR2/VT2*
[21:22] <freakyy> Bashing-om: nothing happens i see an empty screen
[21:22] <cdorsal> if someone could take a look at this, it would be very much appreciated: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2342969&p=13568677#post13568677
[21:23] <freakyy> do i really have to unplug the tv now?
[21:23] <freakyy> oO
[21:25] <Bashing-om> freakyy: You got me as I have no experience with a TV set up as a monitor .. could be that the TV dropped the settings for a digital input ? But I just do not know . Is the TV the only monitor ?
[21:26] <freakyy> no i have another monitor
[21:26] <freakyy> the tv is not the monitor i want to use as monitor
[21:26] <freakyy> wait one moment please
[21:26] <freakyy> i need to restart weechat
[21:28] <freakyy> back :)
[21:29] <freakyy> but yea ... id like to keep the tv connected?
[21:33] <danielnov8> Anyone know how to completely de-install a package/software?
[21:33] <freakyy> danielnov8: apt-get remove --purge <packagename> :D
[21:34] <Bashing-om> freakyy: The question is if the system boots up to the GUI without the TV connected .
[21:34] <freakyy> ok my problem is i cant connec tot here any other way
[21:34] <freakyy> so ... what i will do now is set up a ssl cert for weechat
[21:34] <freakyy> and then my weechat should work on the phone
[21:34] <freakyy> are u here still in 15 minutes?
[21:35] <Bashing-om> freakyy: I expect I will still be available, yes .
[21:38] <freakyy> ok cool thanks
[21:38] <freakyy> so brb
[21:43] <freakyy> Bashing-om: The Same problem with tv unplugged
[21:43] <Guest98665> Hi.
[21:44] <Guest98665> Anyone know how to enable colecting temperature info in sar?
[21:44] <Bashing-om> freakyy: K, and with the TV unplugged, can you access the desktop from the guest account ? Try and isolate this to a user config .
[21:45] <freakyy> No the login screen doesn't show up
[21:46] <theCMack> I been having a problem with my kickstart %post being ignored
[21:46] <freakyy> It keeps giving some status messages then screen turns black then again status messages and again screen turns black and so on
[21:46] <Bashing-om> freakyy: Now it gets deep : Do you know how to boot to the grub boot menu ?
[21:47] <theCMack> I have tried logging it with %post --log=/root/post.log and %post --log /root/post.log
[21:47] <theCMack> both result in invalid flag type errors
[21:48] <theCMack> anyone have any ideas what can cause the %post to be skipped or how to properly log the output?
[21:48] <freakyy> I'm currentl in save mode but I don't know how to boot to the grin boot menu of its not that that's showing when I boot up my of and chose the os to boot
[21:48] <freakyy> Sorry mobile auto correction
[21:49] <freakyy> So I have the boot menu always show up cuz of os selection
[21:49] <freakyy> And its grub
[21:50] <freakyy> But failsafex mode doesn't recognize my peripherals
[21:51] <freakyy> Whereas it first worked but then after I installed nvidia current it only shows me that wrong screen
[21:53] <transhuman> Hi I would like to connect my android device to ubuntu to android studio I have created a udev rule and reloaded udev (even restarted) but android studio shows no usb devices or running emulators detected how do i fix?
[21:54] <ikonia> why would you need an emulator
[21:54] <freakyy> Bashing-om:
[21:55] <Bashing-om> freakyy: "recovery' mode only actives a minimal set of services . Let's boot to terminal .. and see where we stand then ( system problem or a X layer problem ) . at the grub menu 'e' key for edit mode -> boot parameters screen. Arrow down to the line starting with linux and replace "quiet splash" and all after with the term systemd.unit=multi-user.target . Key combo ctl+x to continue to TTY1 . log in here at this terminal . All is good at this p
[21:55] <transhuman> android-studio lets you choose between using an emulated device and the real device...in this case I want to use the usb real device
[21:55] <jjgalvez__> A program is saying that it can not find libpulse.so, I have libpulse.so.0 installed, should I just simlink them, or is there a better way to that? or am I missing something entirely?
[21:55] <ikonia> transhuman: so the emulated device is nothing to do with your phone being connected or not
[21:55] <ikonia> so it sounds like you have a core problem with android studio
[21:56] <ikonia> rather than if your phone is connected or not
[21:56] <transhuman> correct...its just ONE message
[21:56] <Bashing-om> freakyy: How did you install the graphics driver ? .. best I recall version 367 is not available in the repo .
[21:56] <kostkon> jjgalvez__, you are probably missing the 32bit version of that lib
[21:56] <ikonia> so you need to andress the problem with android studio
[21:56] <transhuman> I dont think so I think its a udev problem
[21:56] <ikonia> why do you think that
[21:56] <kostkon> !find libpulse.so
[21:56] <ikonia> as emmulation is nothing to do with udev or a physical device
[21:56] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-361
[21:56] <ikonia> so if you can't emmulate - you have a problem with android studio
[21:56] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-364
[21:57] <transhuman> NO I am using A REAL android device instead of USING the emulated device
[21:57] <transhuman> its ONE message regardless of which you choose...its saying it cant find it
[21:58] <ikonia> transhuman: right but you can't emmulate
[21:58] <ikonia> so you have a problem with studio
[21:58] <kostkon> jjgalvez__, i.e. you could try something along the lines of sudo apt-get install libpulse0:i386 or sudo apt-get install libpulse-dev:i386 etc., whichever is needed
[21:58] <transhuman> ok I will ask in android dev then but think its a udev problem but thanks...I will ask in #android-dev
[21:58] <ikonia> why do you think it's a udev problem ?
[21:59] <freakyy> I just did apt-get install nvidia-current
[21:59] <jjgalvez__> kostkon: installing lipulse-dev fixed the problem, thanks for the help :)
[21:59] <kostkon> jjgalvez__, np
[22:00] <freakyy> In there now Bashing-om
[22:00] <freakyy> Logged in as root
[22:00] <cherub> hey
[22:01] <freakyy> Did I edit the boot config now?
[22:01] <freakyy> Because I don't know how to change it back
[22:03] <Bashing-om> freakyy: K,now what does the sytem report when we start the GUI ' systemctl isolate graphical.target ' ?
[22:05] <freakyy> Now all consoles f1 f2 keep going on and off slowly again and again I can only write when the screen shows the console
[22:05] <freakyy> Bashing-om:
[22:06] <freakyy> What should I do
[22:07] <danielnov8> freakyy:thanks
[22:08] <freakyy> I can't do anything anymore
[22:12] <Bashing-om> freakyy: "  Logged in as root " .. Not sure of where you are .. If you are following my thought process or not .. All I can suggest at this point is renoot and start all over .. what results :
[22:13] <Bashing-om> !sysrq | freakyy
[22:14] <freakyy> Bashing-om: I just did Saudi passwd -
[22:14] <freakyy> And set a pass for root I followed what I said
[22:15] <freakyy> I just logged in as root instead of my normal user as in doing system work
[22:16] <freakyy> Is there any cmdlone burning tool
[22:16] <Bashing-om> freakyy: That is not the ubuntu way .. I can not follow what you are doing as I have no nada none experience messing about in a "root" account .
[22:16] <freakyy> Which I can use to burn an iso
[22:16] <freakyy> I can reinstall the system
[22:17] <elodinn> ls
[22:17] <elodinn> lol woops
[22:17] <freakyy> Thank you very much for ur help Bashing-om
[22:17] <Bashing-om> freakyy: No we do not need to re-install .. IF this is just a graphi'c driver issue . If so .. just indetify the card, purge the driver .. and install the correct version driver . IF this is the case .
[22:18] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[22:18] <CountryfiedLinux> Will Snappy packages be the default installed ones in the future?
[22:18] <Random832> freakyy: cdrecord, cdrdao, wodim, dd, cp
[22:19] <CountryfiedLinux> Right now it seems more up to the user to discover which packages have snaps and which do not. It would be cool for a defaut install to be entirely snaps.
[22:20] <Guest52465> How to enable temerature collection in sar?
[22:20] <Bashing-om> CountryfiedLinux: the #snappy channel would be the more apt to know .
[22:20] <CountryfiedLinux> thanks Bashing-om
[22:21] <freakyy> Thank you ill try installing newest driver version
[22:21] <Bashing-om> freakyy: Again .. how are you installing the driver ? From our trusted PPA or else ??
[22:22] <freakyy> Restricted
[22:23] <freakyy> Nvidia-367
[22:23] <freakyy> Unding apt-get install
[22:24] <Bashing-om> freakyy: Again, I can not follow what you relate .. Is it me that does not communicate well ? .. How do you know that the 367 version is correct for your card ?
[22:24] <freakyy> It works.
[22:25] <freakyy> I thought its the latest so I installed
[22:26] <Bashing-om> freakyy: Verify that 367 is correct .. what is the hardware ' lspci -vnn | grep -i VGA ' .
[22:27] <freakyy> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GM206 [GeForce GTX 960] [10de:1401] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[22:28] <crayon> kunwon1, you there?
[22:30] <freakyy> Bashing-om: is that correct?
[22:30] <freakyy> the driver?
[22:31] <freakyy> id ont know how to hceck
[22:31] <freakyy> ;D
[22:31] <freakyy> *dont know how to check
[22:31] <Bashing-om> freakyy: Yep .. 367 version is correct : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/108586/en-us .
[22:31] <freakyy> ok thank you very much for your help :D
[22:32] <Bashing-om> freakyy: We are here to help to the end ... I can follow your lpogic process, or you may follow mine to arrive at a solution .
[22:33] <Bashing-om> logic*
[22:33] <freakyy> yea ;D
[22:33] <freakyy> if i just knew it was just the driver
[22:36] <BlackDeath> hi is here someone that use a gaming kvm?
[22:36] <Bashing-om> freakyy: Well, .. I have looked in the log file .. and I do not - I may have missed it - see that the card is identified. One can see what driver(s) are installed ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia . We only want to see the 367 version listed .
[22:40] <freakyy> Bashing-om: wait
[22:40] <freakyy> root@baby ~ # dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia
[22:40] <freakyy> rc  nvidia-installer-cleanup          20141201+1                           amd64        cleanup after driver installation with the nvidia-installer
[22:40] <freakyy> root@baby ~ #
[22:41] <freakyy> theres nothing else showing? oO
[22:41] <Bashing-om> freakyy: ^^ in a pastebin please .
[22:41] <freakyy> that was all
[22:41] <freakyy> ok next time pastebin
[22:42] <ubuntu008> hay all! i have a question.. its driving me out of my little head.
[22:42] <rafal1> Hello
[22:42] <freakyy> hi
[22:43] <Gr3mlin> why is it so hard to configure Ubuntu server headless' DNS settings.
[22:43] <rafal1> Install Parrot
[22:44] <salad> hai
[22:44] <Gr3mlin> well... ubuntu can resolve anything atm. so it wont be letting me install anything
[22:46] <freakyy> Bashing-om:
[22:46] <salad> so what is this
[22:47] <Bashing-om> salad: As the topic says . this is the ubuntu operating system support channel .
[22:47] <salad> Windows is much better
[22:47] <Bashing-om> !ot | salad
[22:48] <salad> Windows 10 is better then any linux OS
[22:48] <bazhang> salad time to stop
[22:49] <salad> Windows 10 has the possibility to connect with my xbox one and of course my lovely cortana. suck it ubuntu users!
[22:49] <sebb23> good evening
[22:51] <SaladW10> Windows 10 has winrar wich is the best programm ever!
[22:52] <freakyy> bad salad ;D
[22:52] <zyclonicz> Windows 10 is better than Ubuntu.
[22:52] <freakyy> Bashing-om: thank you again for your help :)
[22:53] <Bashing-om> freakyy: Are you up and functional ?
[22:55] <cheeseman> helo: having issue with curl command when sending my curl request to an api it will say"enter host password" but still "not authorized"
[22:55] <freakyy> Bashing-om: yes everything working fine since now ;D
[22:56] <Bashing-om> freakyy: Great .
[22:56] <freakyy> Bashing-om:  :D
[22:57] <workisfun> hi guys I'm trying to install emacs 25.1. I downloaded the tar.xz, extracted it but when i try to run ./configure, i get `configure: error: You seem to be running X, but no X development libraries were found. You should install the relevant development files for X and for the toolkit you want, such as Gtk+ or Motif. Also make sure you have development files for image handling.`
[22:57] <workisfun> then I tried running `sudo apt-get build-dep emacs24` but I get E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list`
[22:58] <hggdh> workisfun: start by sudo apt-get build-dep emacs
[22:58] <hggdh> yeah
[22:58] <workisfun> hggdh:i get the same error with that too
[22:58] <hggdh> workisfun: yes, you need the source packages
[22:58] <workisfun> this is a fresh install of ubuntu 16.04 btw
[22:59] <hggdh> workisfun: you need deb-src entries in your sources.list
[23:00] <workisfun> yes but i'm not sure what those should be
[23:00] <hggdh> workisfun: run software-propweties-gtk, and select "source code"; then apt-get update
[23:01] <sebb23> whats the easiest way to install an armgf deb on a x86_64 os ?
[23:01] <hggdh> workisfun: sorry, mistype: it is software-properties-gtk
[23:02] <workisfun> another person elsewhere said to do sudo apt-get update first and after that build-dep emacs24 is working
[23:02] <workisfun> (sorry beginner here)
[23:03] <hggdh> workisfun: it will not work if you do not have source packages selected on apt
[23:03] <workisfun> maybe they were there by default, ./autogen.sh and ./configure are working now it seems
[23:03] <hggdh> workisfun: on the other hand, before trying to install anything with apt, it is good to run an apt-get update
[23:04] <Venom> Hello
[23:05] <klarkie> Hello?
[23:05] <Venom> Hey there klarker
[23:05] <klarkie> Hey
[23:05] <hggdh> workisfun: a build-dep will install all dev packages necessary to build the provided package. You may have autoconf but still b missing some (dev) libraries
[23:06] <Venom> you know what would be easier?
[23:06] <Venom> A .exe
[23:06] <hggdh> workisfun: also, a build-dep will get you the build dependencies for the currently-available emacs. If emacs25 needs something more recent, you will have to grab it somehow
[23:07] <hggdh> Venom: ?
[23:07] <klarkie> hggdh what is a build dep?
[23:07] <klarkie> and a emac?
[23:08] <hggdh> klarkie: build deendencies -- what a package needs at build time
[23:08] <klarkie> oke and a emac?
[23:08] <Venom> My brain just BSODed
[23:08] <klarkie> 0_o
[23:08] <hggdh> Venom: this is not a chat channel
[23:09] <workisfun> klarkie:you can google it
[23:09] <hggdh> klarkie: same applies to you
[23:09] <Venom> Very well how do i install internet on ubuntu?
[23:09] <Venom> i tried sudo apt-get install internet but it didn't work
[23:10] <klarkie> Is there a big difference between the different desktop envirements for ubuntu?
[23:11] <squinty> bazhang: fwiw, Venom was just banned in ##windows
[23:11] <crayon> kunwon1, you there?
[23:11] <thesushimanoftao> hello room
[23:12] <klarkie> hey there
[23:12] <thesushimanoftao> anyone familiar with solving a kernel panic problem with booting?
[23:12] <thesushimanoftao> use of the boot-repair disk
[23:12] <thesushimanoftao> or the program boot repair
[23:14] <hggdh> klarkie: again, this is not a chat channel
[23:14] <klarkie> right so what is the use of this?
[23:14] <klarkie> only support?
[23:14] <thesushimanoftao> this is a support channel
[23:14] <thesushimanoftao> we come here for help
[23:14] <hggdh> klarkie: yes. Last warning.
[23:14] <thesushimanoftao> though i do believe civil acknowledgement is a good thing
[23:14] <klarkie> sure
[23:16] <jak2000> know how to access initrams?
[23:17] <thesushimanoftao> me jak?
[23:18] <jak2000> thesushimanoftao
[23:18] <jak2000> can you help me
[23:18] <thesushimanoftao> i do not
[23:18] <jak2000> but i get this error: when type: fsck /dev/dm-0
[23:18] <jak2000> the error is: /dev/mapper/localhost--vg-root is mounted.   e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.
[23:18] <jak2000> and i know is possible fix: https://postimg.org/image/fj5z7mu1h/
[23:21] <thesushimanoftao> not my familiarity
[23:24] <thesushimanoftao> looking for help with boot-repair and/or kernel panic errors
[23:24] <thesushimanoftao> and repository errors
[23:26] <amaged__> Hi, when you boot a Linux VM, halt GRUB, add a parameter there, it works but when i reboot, these settings go away, how do i make that persistent ?
[23:26] <Toobian> hi, is there possible to change keyboard layout before LUKS unlock disk ?
[23:28] <squinty> amaged__,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2  -> custom menu entries
[23:30] <amaged__> thanks squinty
[23:30] <pietilson> If I performed a minimal install, and am now SSHd into Ubuntu, where do I go to configure the tty/terminal?  I don't have xterm installed, although $TERM identifies itself as that.
[23:32] <pietilson> I am mostly interested in colors/background at this point.  Putty using the "Use System Colors" checkbox presents a white background terminal and its blinding me :p
[23:33] <tasaif> pietilson: why not change the colors in putty?
[23:34] <tasaif> pietilson: https://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-unix-bash-shell-setup-prompt.html
[23:34] <pietilson> ideally, it is an exercise to better understand linux and how it works, I am a noob.  The odd part is, if I login to the box proper, the tty is black.
[23:35] <tasaif> from what I understand there are two way to approach it
[23:36] <Bashing-om> pietilson: I know not putty, but at local, my solutuon to that glaring white background was to invert . - alias xterm='xterm -rv' ; added to the alias list in .bashrc .
[23:37] <tasaif> if you modify the PS1 environment variables then that can be processed by your terminal emulator, but generally people configure color profiles on the terminal emulators themselves
[23:38] <yoshimitsu> any tutorials for beginning programmers in c/c++?
[23:38] <pietilson> yoshimitsu: What terminal emulator am I really using if xterm isn't actually installed? (or at least I don't think it is).
[23:38] <yoshimitsu> i'm not sure sorry, i just started using ubuntu
[23:39] <pietilson> Bashing-om: people typically manage colors through their shell then and not the terminal/tty itself?
[23:39] <bekks> pietilson: Yes.
[23:39] <yoshimitsu> pietilson: probably gnome terminal
[23:39] <pietilson> woops, I meant tasaif
[23:40] <Bashing-om> pietilson: I just found that the easiest solution in my use case .
[23:43] <Bashing-om> pietilson: xterm is a very powerful application and there is a lot one can do for configuration. See ' man xterm '
[23:44] <pietilson> Bashing-om that is where I am really confused, I did a minimal install with the mini.iso, I have no xterm package when I run dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall
[23:45] <pietilson> apt list --installed
[23:45] <pietilson> is the same
[23:46] <mijk> anyone have trouble with the intel graphics update tool?
[23:46] <mijk> it just sits at "Listings packages"
[23:47] <yoshimitsu> any tutorials on programming i should look at? i'm just starting out
[23:47] <pietilson> thank you for the help though, once I figure out what I am looking at through putty (apparently not xterm), then I will move onto your other suggestions
[23:47] <Bashing-om> pietilson: k .. dpkg -l xterm >> ii  xterm          297-1ubuntu1 amd64        X terminal emulator . As I have xfce4 installed for an on-demand GUI .
[23:50] <jak2000> Bashing-om you know about grub and initramfs? break=premount
[23:50] <jak2000> ?
[23:51] <Bashing-om> jak2000: Well, I know a bit about grub .. Not near as much as I would like to . What is your issue ?
[23:52] <kostkon> yoshimitsu, since you are starting out you might as well have a look at the ubuntu developer site https://developer.ubuntu.com/
[23:52] <jak2000> i need run fsck command on initramfs prompt
[23:52] <jak2000> https://postimg.org/image/94jtd5j99/
[23:52] <jak2000> see the image please
[23:53] <Bashing-om> jak2000: No can do .. as the target MUST not be mounted .. the file system checker now-a-days is smarter and will not run .
[23:54] <jak2000> mmm how to know if my system is mounted in readonly?
[23:54] <Bashing-om> jak2000: As to LVM .. no experience there at all .. can not advise .
[23:55] <Bashing-om> jak2000: Rin a file system check from a live environmnet or from a separate install .. the target file system must be in an idle state for the checker to get a handle on it .
[23:56] <thesushimanoftao> anyone familiar with kernel panic errors?
[23:56] <Bashing-om> rin/run**
[23:57] <Beng_Ben1> ;]
[23:57] <Beng_Ben1> [;