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lotuspsychjegood morning to all05:55
lotuspsychjehttp://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-patches-multiple-kernel-vulnerabilities-in-all-supported-ubuntu-oses-510156.shtml06:34
lotuspsychje!info linux-image-generic xenial06:35
ubot5`linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.47.50 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 12 kB06:35
ducassehi all07:20
BluesKajHiyas all10:42
daftykins\o10:54
daftykinshrmm tried an up to date install of kodibuntu on my ancient atom+ion1 machine, sticking with nvidia-304 as the driver - but i'm getting broken VDPAU10:54
BluesKajhey daftykins10:55
daftykinsNOTICE: VDPAU::Open: required extension GL_NV_vdpau_interop not found <-- from Kodi's log10:55
BluesKajI find kodi runs perfectly fine just as an app rather than an OS on my machines ...leaves a lot more options10:57
daftykinswell, this is their outdated ISO so once you dist-upgrade it seems some things break11:00
BluesKajjarvis ?11:07
daftykinsyep11:13
daftykinskodibuntu is a trusty base11:13
BluesKajk , that might be a bit old11:32
daftykinsnah nothing wrong with it11:35
daftykinsah nevermind, i gave up and now have LibreELEC on there :D much better :D13:08
daftykinsa wild TJ- ! hey there, how are you?13:08
TJ-Heya Mr D, how you doing?13:09
daftykinsi'm very well thanks :D13:09
daftykinsi think you'd be proud too, because i now have soldering capable hands!13:09
TJ-I'm great too; back to the online world (mostly) over winter after a busy summer13:09
daftykinsah yep :) is the dream house all complete now then?13:10
TJ-Woo-hoo!! party-time :) Did you invest in a multimeter too?13:10
TJ-No, there's still a lot of work to do but it is weather tight13:10
TJ-The larger problem is it is very isolated so getting materials to it is difficult when its wet and muddy13:11
daftykinsah i see, nah no multimeter just yet ;)13:11
TJ-I've hit a problem with basic lxc unprivileged containers that I can't fathom; very frustrating!13:11
daftykinsah har13:12
BluesKajHi pauljw, TJ-13:12
daftykinsi was just beating my head against a brick wall of broken VDPAU on 14.04, but i've ditched that setup now13:12
TJ-BluesKaj ought to know how to solve my lxc issue by now :p13:12
daftykins:D13:13
BluesKajTJ-,  lxc? my memory fails13:13
daftykinsTJ-: would a dropbox link still be as useful as a chocolate teapot, to show you what i'd repaired last? :D13:13
* BluesKaj has no clue about containers unless it's the coffee cans I save for screws etc13:14
TJ-LOL13:14
TJ-Why is it when *i* come in search of help everyone hides?13:15
daftykinsthat's my usual experience too ;)13:15
daftykinswell, unless you're about!13:15
BluesKaj not hiding TJ- , I'm just clueless :-)13:15
TJ-Grrrrr13:15
TJ-the lxcontainers channel is totally quiet so looks like i'm gonna spend several frustrating hours trying to figure it out, only to find that the instructions probably are missing some vital step13:16
pauljwhey BluesKaj , everyone13:24
R13oseHi13:37
R13oseOh, the problem has reappeared maybe because I restarted and didn't make the text added to grub permanent.  Should I do that and if so how? What text is this again?13:40
daftykinsi didn't think it was solved to begin with13:49
daftykins"acpi_osi=Windows 2013" wasn't it? i forget13:50
daftykinsor 2012 maybe13:50
R13oseIt was "acpi_osi=Windows 2012"13:55
TJ-often good to clear out the existing OSI list first, using "acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2013" " - the ! clears the list14:05
TJ-^^^ that's an example from this PC14:06
daftykins!info gnome-session-fallback14:30
ubot5`Package gnome-session-fallback does not exist in xenial14:30
R13osedaftykins: back.  How do I do that?  Go into grub again and put that in?15:04
daftykinsyou need to edit /etc/default/grub to enter it into one field yeah, i can't tell you which it is though15:09
TJ-GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="..."15:11
R13oseone sec  looking15:24
R13osethis is what I have now: http://pastebin.com/6rLSze0u the first line was there already and the second line was GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" in which I added the text TJ- said above.15:27
R13oseIf that is correct, I will save the file and then should I restart?15:27
TJ-R13ose: ok, you'll need to *escape* the embedded double quote marks so DO NOT reboot yet15:27
R13oseDo I need to run update-grub after I save the file?15:28
R13oseTJ-: can you explain what you mean?15:28
TJ-so for each embeded " you have to write \" ... here's mine as an example15:28
TJ-GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="no_console_suspend acpi_osi=! acpi_osi=\"Windows 2013\""15:28
R13oseokay15:29
R13osedo I need the first part of your line no_console_suspend?15:29
TJ-R13ose: otherwise the first " matches the second one rather than the second one being included inside the string15:29
TJ-R13ose: no, just the acpi_osi lines your system needs15:30
TJ-R13ose: if i recall correctly, earlier, you mention yours was "Windows_2012" not 2013 ?15:30
R13oseright 2012.15:31
R13oseHere is the line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=\"Windows 2012\"" but I see 5 double quotes and I believe I need even numbers right?15:32
TJ-R13ose: correct. lose the second "15:33
R13oseTJ-: Done.  Now I should use that command I talked about earlier and then restart?15:34
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TJ-R13ose: "sudo update-grub" will take those options and write them to the /boot/grub/grub.cfg15:36
R13oseTJ-: right and now I can restart?15:38
TJ-R13ose: yes15:38
daftykinsTJ-: as it happens that guys actual issue is one you might enjoy :> it's some annoying acer laptop if i remember rightly, intel graphics only, but some boots it'd come up with the 'modeset' driver and other times the 'intel' :)15:41
daftykinsuser first came in complaining of UI issues in browsers, such as updating the full screen when opening tabs etc, i think15:42
TJ-could it corollate to boots vs suspend cycles? many machines configure ACPI stuff less strictly on resume from sleep than they do at cold boot time15:42
daftykinsmmm not sure15:43
daftykinsi very quickly learnt that 16.10 handles Xorg's log location differently - and at that point i used a few expletives regarding FOSS always changing things for no good reason and walked away15:44
daftykins(wasn't my ticket)15:44
TJ-Huh? 16.10 has moved logs again?15:45
R13oseI am back, and will have to wait until the problem comes up again if this does.  There was a warning when I did the update that maybe I should fix, right?15:45
TJ-where to now?15:45
daftykinswell it seems like it creates a different Xorg log per PID, so when you boot up it's a different X instance than once you log in15:46
daftykinsi don't know very clearly as i don't run desktop or non-LTS :)15:46
daftykinsR13ose: TJ's our resident deity on issues if you could describe the main problem from scratch :)15:46
daftykinsiirc it was browser UI update quirks when opening tabs15:47
TJ-oh, that's been pretty standard for a few releases now. It's to do with separating the login X server from the user server. I forget what scenarios it kicks in from though15:47
R13osedaftykins: if the problem comes up again, I will let the channel know again.15:47
daftykinsoh, i figured you'd recall15:47
R13osedaftykins: I know the problem exactly, but don't want to flood the channel with a problem that is not happening now.15:48
R13oseI am already testing TJ- approach and will see if this works.15:48
daftykinsR13ose: write it in a paste and then link it...15:49
R13osedaftykins: my problem?15:49
daftykinsit's not a new approach though, you were meant to have been using this since the first time we discussed it15:49
daftykinsyeah15:49
R13osedaftykins: yes but I most likely restarted and didn't edit grub again as this was written into grub for good.15:50
daftykinsyeah, you were meant to keep it handy to use every time and see if it had fixed it15:52
daftykinsso essentially this entire process is still at the 'undetermined' stage15:52
TJ-what is the actual fault? missing hardware?15:53
TJ-I seem to recall with this PC it would have missing hardware if the mains power was not attached at boot15:53
daftykinsi'm only going to be guessing from memory unless R13ose describes it again, so i'm gonna give up i'm afraid15:56
R13oseI am writing15:56
R13osedaftykins: the command, I forgot to do that each time sorry.15:56
daftykinseh no skin off my nose, my machines work :D15:56
R13oseHere is the pastebin that I setup to expire in 1 month: http://pastebin.com/9Up28Z6015:57
daftykinsyeah so that's what led to trying to read the xorg log, then found out some boots would be using modeset, others would be using intel (or so it seemed)15:58
daftykinsso Bashing-om went down the acpi_osi route15:58
R13oseyep16:00
R13oseI have to go in a few mins as family is over now.16:00
R13osebbl16:06
daftykins\o16:07
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TJ-Finally figured out my LXC issue! I'm using upstream kernels and it seems Ubuntu kernels carry CGROUP (control group) patches to allow relative bind mounts of the kernel file-system, and they haven't been sent upstream!17:46
TJ-fix is to edit the container's config file and add "lxc.aa_allow_incomplete = 1"17:47
daftykins:D17:48
TJ-wasted an afternoon on that, grrr17:51
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EriC^^hey Bashing-om21:21
EriC^^how did the new bios chip go?21:21
Bashing-omEriC^^: From bad to worse in some respects ... gonna keep the latest version .. and try a new plan . ending up re-partitioning and re-installing a full desktop xubuntu . This has turned into a real learning experience :)21:24
EriC^^sounds good man21:25

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