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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:48
daftykins\o10:54
zmoylan-pio/10:56
daftykinshmm i have broken VDPAU on my old retired HTPC and can't work out what's up10:56
zmoylan-pibut if it's retired, does it matter?10:57
daftykinsyeah, 'cause i have a few the same up at a clients, so i'm using mine as the guinea pig for a fresh install10:57
zmoylan-piso... not quiet retired then...10:57
daftykinswell it was for me :> i brought it down from the shelf of abandonment!10:57
zmoylan-pino no, the shelf of abandonment is one step up from floor of despair which is itself one step up from centre of recycling...10:59
zmoylan-piit still had a ways to go before retirement...10:59
daftykinsi feel like it's as simple as the right lib in the wrong place but i've no idea what's meant to be where11:01
zmoylan-piah... debugging stuff that's so old its considered obsolete... it's like archeology... you need a hat and a whip to fight off the dust bunnies11:03
daftykinsit's actually current on all software, it's just VDPAU broken11:05
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diddledanthis year refuses to quit! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-3795708813:59
popeyyeah :(14:05
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/6xsl6mjebh1a7ar/20161111_140640_resized.jpg?dl=0 client just phoned from down in Spain, the guys installed non waterproof MDF skirting boards - that's what happens when they get wet15:10
diddledandaftykins: dang16:27
diddledanthat looks bad16:27
daftykinspretty bad workmanship indeedy16:27
daftykinswooden floors, so you could just mop once and see the whole lot expanding16:27
daftykinslike a diddled mac ;D16:28
daftykinso016:54
popeyouch16:55
penguin42daftykins: That's pretty impressive16:57
daftykinsi'm impressed with how he managed to discover that they're wrong16:59
foobarrywent for an eye test today. "and when was your last test sir". ermmmm, i haven't had one before17:43
diddledanwhy isn;t the drink bourbon made of bourbon biscuits?17:44
penguin42foobarry: Did you find the need?17:44
penguin42diddledan: Or indeed the other way around?17:44
diddledanI really need to do an eye test, too. it's been 4 years since my last confession.17:45
foobarryi'm in my 40s and my mum has glaucoma , and so did my dad17:45
penguin42ah17:45
foobarryand i've been getting (perhaps smartphone induced) eyeball pains17:45
diddledanI make 34 in March17:46
foobarryi was reading the lines17:46
penguin42foobarry: So they tried to do the puff-test pressure stuff on you?17:46
foobarrytrying to do the bottom one17:46
foobarryyep, photos of eyeball etc17:46
foobarrymanaged to read the bottom line..17:46
diddledan\o/17:46
foobarrythen she said the top one was the 20/20 vision one17:46
diddledanI can't do that even with lenses17:46
foobarryturns out my eyeballs are fine17:46
* penguin42 hates that pressure test; they normally have to try 3 or 4 times17:46
foobarryhowever the muscles get tired sometimes17:47
foobarryi probably need a bigger phone next time or to use it less17:47
daftykinspenguin42: ah yeah that's annoying17:47
foobarryi don't need glasses yet but as the years roll on, i will inevitably need reading glasses17:47
daftykinsi used to get made to do the peripheral vision dome test which used to run from floppy, ouch17:47
diddledandaftykins: floppy?!17:48
* diddledan flops17:48
foobarryshe looked inside my eyeball with a torch which was a bit intimate17:48
foobarryher face about 1inc from mine17:48
Myrttimy eyesight is actually getting better as I'm getting older17:48
penguin42foobarry: Oh yeh you get to know your opticians forehead well17:48
daftykinsdiddledan: don't copy that!17:48
daftykinsthat's when you hope both of you have good breath17:49
foobarryMyrtti: long->short crossover?17:49
diddledanI've got a floater in one of my eyes. I notice it when I look down and then back-up occasionally17:50
foobarrythe funny thing is my wife came into the optician with me.17:50
foobarrybecause she didn't really trust me to actually go ahead17:50
diddledanfoobarry: bless her. she must like you :-)17:50
foobarrybecause i'd waited 41 years before having one17:51
foobarryits not quite dentist levels of scary but i was apprenshive of hearing something permanent17:51
* penguin42 is really going to have to do a dentist sometime17:52
* diddledan keeps quiet about doing dentists17:52
foobarryi did that last month17:52
foobarry2016 is my year of getting things done17:52
foobarryeven bought new mattresses for the bed and bought a piano17:52
diddledanI need a whole new bed17:53
penguin42foobarry: Lets just put it this way; I've put off dentists as long as you've put off eye tests17:53
foobarryoof17:53
foobarryi would have no face left17:53
* penguin42 isn't sure he has much17:53
daftykinsi had a reminder card from mine actually, hmm17:55
diddledanmy sister is in the strictly come dancing audience tonight19:01
daftykinsooh-err19:01
daftykinscan't stand such types o' TV :P19:01
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zmoylan-pii was once a phone a friend on irelands version of who wants to be a millionaire... but the person chose a different person when he used his phone a friend19:16
daftykins!19:16
daftykinsdid they then lose? )19:16
daftykins* :)19:16
zmoylan-piyes, and i knew the answer to the question that was asked...19:16
zmoylan-piwhere is the rosetta stone? 1) new york, 2) london, 3) paris, 4) cairo19:17
diddledancairo19:18
zmoylan-piafter the british took it off napolean? your museum will never give it up for that alone19:19
diddledanit belongs to the world19:19
zmoylan-piabsolutely but it will always sit in a british museum19:20
MyrttiI cried when I first saw it in London19:21
zmoylan-piand now with 3d scanning and 3d printing soon any museum will be able to knock up a replica19:21
daftykinsat a stone?19:23
zmoylan-piit represents science and knowledge recreating our ability to understand a dead language.  a real achievement19:24
diddledana famous person once said "Human knowledge belongs to the world."19:24
zmoylan-pithen we invented copyrights...19:24
diddledanhe also said "This isn't a game! In the real world, when you kill people they dieā€”for real!"19:24
GargoyleAny kernel compilers online?21:27
penguin42people? programs? shell scripts?21:27
Gargoylepeople! :-)21:27
zmoylan-pishell scripts are programs too!! :-)21:27
GargoyleGetting an error from editconfigs, and google is a black hole21:28
penguin42and the error is?21:28
Gargoylegisting.....21:29
Gargoylehttps://gist.github.com/gargoyle/00adfb96a6ca61cde547e4c5310f265121:29
penguin42oh, easy21:30
penguin42install libncurses-devel21:30
penguin42you're missing the curses.h header21:30
Gargoylelibcurses-acaml-dev ?21:31
penguin42sorry, it's libncurses-dev on ubuntu (possibly libncurses5-dev)21:31
penguin42no, not acaml21:32
GargoyleI don't get that as an option (touble tapping tab)21:32
Gargoyle*double21:32
penguin42what distro and version are you on?21:33
Gargoyle16.1021:33
penguin42you don't have    libncurses5-dev ?21:34
penguin42(wth apt-cache search curses.h is just listing ncurses-hexedit)21:34
Gargoylenormal ubuntu21:36
Gargoyleand apparently, 0% battery!21:36
penguin42pedal faster!21:36
Gargoyledamn this retina display... missed the "n"21:37
daftykinsugh macs21:38
Gargoylehmmm21:38
GargoyleSeems to be working now... thanks! :-)21:39
GargoyleMaybe I'll find some stuff to make this mac better! ;-)21:39
zmoylan-pican you install os/2 on a mac? :-)21:39
daftykinsthat one looked mighty google-able by the way Gargoyle21:39
Gargoyleha ha21:40
daftykinsno i'm serious21:41
penguin42Gargoyle: So if you ever find something saying it's missing a header just find which package has the header21:41
Gargoylepenguin42: will do21:42
* diddledan googles daftykins21:53
diddledanQuite hard.21:53
zmoylan-piit's irc, you're supposed to bing him...21:54
diddledanhttps://youtu.be/bbpztC6GHqw21:56
diddledanI'm not sure I've ever googled with bing21:56
diddledanIf you're never seen him, scott hanselman from microsoft does fun presentations/talks about .net21:57
diddledanYou've**21:57
* diddledan googles zmoylan-pi with bing21:59
* zmoylan-pi sets gopher with rabies on diddledan 22:00
diddledan:-(22:00
diddledanSadface22:00
zmoylan-pithank goodness it's been eliminated in uk and ireland...22:01
diddledanGophers?22:02
zmoylan-pirabies22:02
diddledanAha22:02
* diddledan gophers zmoylan-pi with nutscrape 1.022:02
zmoylan-pitook a few years over 100 years ago iirc22:02
diddledanNetscape few22:03
diddledanFtw22:03
diddledanNetscape is gonna beat microsoft22:03
zmoylan-pii kept using netscape 4.something or other long after they stopped development22:04
zmoylan-piwell when they released their code as open source it did help spur the development of firefox... which broke ms's lock on the browser market22:05
diddledanFirefox still uses the ns prefix on all it's function names22:05
diddledanNot to be confused with Apple's ns prefix22:06
daftykinsg'night \o22:09
zmoylan-pisee, i told you bing would work :-)22:10
diddledanI got an email from mozilla yesterday saying they're working on big things for firefox called "quantum"22:10
zmoylan-piit jumps into the body of other browsers? oh boy...22:11
diddledanHaha22:11
brobostigoncould someone higlight me please.22:33
diddledanbrobostigon: no22:34
brobostigonthank diddledan :)22:34
brobostigonthanks*22:34
diddledanI said no22:35
diddledanOh, dammit22:35
diddledan:-p22:35
diddledanYou tricked me!22:36
zmoylan-pidon't tell him your name diddledan22:36
brobostigon:)22:37
diddledanzmoylan-pi: you mean dan?22:40
diddledanOh ffs22:40
brmbrmcarplay nicely now22:40
diddledanbrmbrmcar: they keep tricking me! :-(22:41
brmbrmcarawww22:41
brmbrmcarDon't be mean to diddledan22:41

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