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benguitarAnother question for you guys, have any of you experienced or resolved the random 'pop' in audio when adjusting the volume level on your soundcard after 'x' amount of time? I've noticed this with both internal and external soundcards, and I'm led to believe that it has something to do with power saving or the soundcard going to 'sleep' Thoughts? I'm using 16.04 LTS Budgie00:01
kk4ewtbenguitar, or you have a cold soldier joint on the port00:12
protnhi folks00:13
protnhow I refresh dns cache via cli?00:13
benguitarkk4ewt, I missed the first part of your message, but I'll have to look at the hardware for cold solder, the weird part is that I'm talking about two different soundcards having the same problem, one is attached via USB, one if direct 1/8" out from my motherboard.00:14
kk4ewtbenguitar,  so test another usb device and see if it has issues at time as well00:15
benguitarkk4ewt, ah.. time to go find another USB device to toy with.00:16
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wifihelpSo I just made a fresh 16.04 server install on an old PC and it's not detecting any network interfaces even after using USB wifi for the network install. Any help?00:22
amaged__Hi, I am given a VM, where it is configured so that when a user logs in, they are taken directly to a running application, so I can not get shell access, where can i find this setting and change it ?00:26
FireStrikerHow do I change the file manager on *ubuntu to PCManFM?00:27
benguitarkk4ewt, Having tried two different aux cables and two different outputs (line out and headphone out) the pop follows. It seems to happen intermittently  on both aux out and a USB device. Hmm00:31
thesushimanoftaodoes default 16.04 automatically install a UEFI partition?00:42
bofh25519\71nn2¾õDæn}Ìñ¦sýp00:42
tomreynthesushimanoftao: it will install grub onto the efi system partition if needed.00:47
tomreyn(There is nmo such thing as an 'UEFI partition'.)00:48
crayonkunwon100:51
thesushimanoftaolooking for help with boot-repair and/or kernel panic errors00:52
thesushimanoftaoit kept prompting me to make a uefi partition00:52
thesushimanoftaoexcuse00:52
thesushimanoftaoefi00:52
thesushimanoftaoi have not scrubbed and am restarting00:53
thesushimanoftaonow scrubbed00:53
thesushimanoftaoanyone know what causes kernel panic errors?00:53
bofh25519thesushimanoftao, wGüAf÷aÎÿuZæ?®00:54
thesushimanoftao???00:54
bofh25519thesushimanoftao, I had problems w/ panic on past!00:54
thesushimanoftaowas there a fix besides reloading?00:55
thesushimanoftaoany idea as to cause?00:55
bofh25519thesushimanoftao, sysreq00:55
bofh25519thesushimanoftao, I had a cheat sheet around here somewhere..00:55
gadgetis anyone using powerline in 16.04? I'm havning trouble getting vim to use a powerline statusline.00:57
gadgetI add the rtp as dist-packages/powerline ... but it only works when I source the p...vim in vim from the prompt00:59
bofh25519thesushimanoftao, you got "not syncing" message?00:59
thesushimanoftaoyup01:00
thesushimanoftaotried to follow boot-repair instructions from live cd, and ultimate boot disk01:00
thesushimanoftaoboth failed so I am reinstalling01:01
thesushimanoftaowas able to recover data01:01
bofh25519thesushimanoftao, dos that have to do w/ early stage hardware detection?01:01
bofh25519does01:01
thesushimanoftaounsure as to cause, only that boot repair is supposed to work01:02
thesushimanoftaogave me problems with grup repair needing repositories01:02
bofh25519thesushimanoftao, would be goo to try to get the booting logs to get where it got stucked01:02
thesushimanoftaoi got the boot info file01:02
thesushimanoftaofrom boot-repair01:03
bofh25519thesushimanoftao, Im inclined to tackle it on hardware issues (buggy/incompatible)01:03
jalcinegadget: you have a paste of your vimrc?01:04
bofh25519thesushimanoftao, on the other hand as you told ,the bootloader may be the cause too (particularly, it never happened to me)01:05
thesushimanoftaoreinstall complete we will see01:05
bofh25519I also remember a long time ago the kernel saying "Aieeeee...":01:06
bofh25519thanks God it never happened again on recent distros01:07
tomreynkernel panics can have many many many causes. it's important to read the message provided by the kernel when it panics. the "not syncing" message is just a follow-up confition, doe snot hint of the root cause.01:07
bofh25519it used to say "Aieee...." on non succesfull shutdown01:07
thesushimanoftaoworks again hope fir a wh8ile01:08
bofh25519tomreyn, a toss for you!01:08
mikeymophey guys01:09
bofh25519"~ø.o¿'®Û¯w01:09
mikeymopI ran an update and found a 'Possible missing firmware' werro for an i915 module01:09
mikeymopis there a way I can identify and remedy this error?01:09
mikeymopor warning to be more accurate01:09
amaged__I am given a centos VM, It is configured in a way, so that when a user logs in, they are taken directly to a running application, there is no shell, I want to find a way to workaround that. all other users are blocked, any ideas ?01:11
arunsGreetings.01:11
amaged__I want to find out how to allow other users to login.01:11
arunsHey, guys, what are your recommendations for desktop managers?01:12
arunsI used XFCE on my old laptop running Ubuntu 14.0401:12
arunsAnd currently have Unity, Cinnamon and Openbox on this laptop running Ubuntu 16.0401:13
tomreynmikeymop: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/1611124 https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15191101:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1611124 in linux-firmware (Ubuntu) "W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_guc_ver9_14.bin for module i915" [Undecided,Invalid]01:14
ubottubugzilla.kernel.org bug 151911 in Video(Other) "W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_guc_ver9_14.bin for module i915" [Normal,Resolved: invalid]01:14
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mikeymopso it is defintely just for kaby lake ubottu01:15
naccit's just a warning, not a bug, ignore it01:15
mikeymopok01:16
naccmikeymop: yes, hence the prefix, afaict (kbl)01:16
mikeymopi read here01:16
mikeymophttp://askubuntu.com/questions/811453/w-possible-missing-firmware-for-module-i915-bpo-when-updating-initramfs01:16
mikeymopthat it could either be the drivers lagging behind the kernel or that the kernel is expecitn kaby lake drivers now and thats why i get hte warning01:16
naccdrivers can't lag behind the kernel, they are part of the kernel01:17
mikeymopi was confused when he said that too01:17
naccmikeymop: it's just a module in the kernel is being built, which depends on unreleased firmware01:17
mikeymopthen i remembered how gpu driver modules are handled01:17
mikeymopbut dkms is a thing so01:18
naccnot for intel01:18
mikeymopgotch01:18
mikeymopty01:18
thesushimanoftaothanks for the help room!01:21
gadgetjalcine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23463843/01:22
mwdso i want to run valgrind on a ubuntu 14.04 system where i don't have root and thus can't install it via apt01:29
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mwdis there a way to run valgrind without compiling it from scratch?01:29
mwdie, some package unpacking in $HOME trick?01:29
_YYZman, the questions are getting harder - only hardcore users nowadays01:30
_YYZtheres no innocence anymore01:30
ixa-01:37
mwdi unpacked the .deb file but it fails to find "memcheck"01:37
mwdsigh01:37
naccmwd: i don't think there's a trivial way -- i guess you could download the .deb and extract it, but then you need to do all sorts of stuff01:37
naccmwd: like you're finding, you'd need to ensure the deps are also available, etc.01:38
naccmwd: can you not request the admin install valgrind? it's not a particularly harmful tool01:38
naccmwd: and/or build from source, like you said01:38
mwdi have been waiting >1week on the ticket01:38
mwdbuild from source might work, i tried it in the distant past and failed and didn't want to try again unless necessary01:38
naccmwd: sounds like an infrastructure issue :/01:39
mwdno kidding ;P01:39
mwdapt needs a feature to run packages in $HOME01:39
naccmwd: you can use dpkg and do something like `dpkg -i <DEB> --force-not-root --root=/place/you/can/write/to/acts/like/root01:39
naccmwd: but then you'd still have dependency hell01:40
mwddpkg: error: requested operation requires superuser privilege01:40
naccmwd: sorry, no idea at this point01:41
mwdok no problem, thanks for the chat01:41
Beng_Ben1;]01:41
* mwd shall attempt to compile ..01:42
mwdhaha the compile seems to have worked and it runs. i guess that make system is better now than it was before01:44
rflemingDoes anyone know why audio in Ubuntu (Linux in general) always seems quieter than in Windows...01:51
rflemingIE, in Windows the laptop is quite loud, but is much softer in KDE/GNOME/Mate/XFCE, etc.01:51
_YYZrfleming, I found that too01:57
rflemingI'm wondering if it has anything to do with the driver. Perhaps the proprietary driver utilises a built-in amplifier that the open-source one cannot01:59
mebXhey guy's I was wonder where I could find the best G.U.I. for the newest Ubuntu Server02:00
mebXthanks for your time!!!02:00
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_YYZrfleming, even inside Linux: there are some apps that will show poorer sound - due to the sound architecture involved02:01
_YYZrfleming, some will not obey the equalizer cuz (I think theyre not using ALSA) and others will02:02
_YYZand the uptime grows02:03
squintymebX, typically ubuntu servers are not installed with desktop gui but you can install any of the desktop flavours on top of the basic ubuntu server release.  might also want to field your question in #ubuntu-server channel02:04
mebXthank you kind sir02:06
_YYZITS LATE02:06
fsocietyOi02:17
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hwlhelp02:35
hwlfirst come here02:35
nicomachus!ask | hwl02:37
ubottuhwl: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience02:37
squinty!details | hwl02:37
ubottuhwl: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.02:37
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rflemingI'm looking for an opinion.  Do you think it's better to set up LAMP with Ubuntu Server, or use the mini.iso?02:56
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squintyrfleming, might want to ask in #ubuntu-server if no luck here03:02
rflemingI could... I'm just looking for opinion.  I know how to do it, but don't know if I should use the mini iso, or the full blown ubuntu server iso and get extra packages I don't really care about03:03
rflemingsince it isn't going to be a server server (as in enterprise)03:04
ipatrolI'm not sure which channel this belongs in, but does anyone know the status of getting bug 1623666 resolved?03:07
ubottubug 1623666 in libimobiledevice (Ubuntu) "iOS10 will not connect to Ubuntu" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162366603:07
tmusI frequently experience a serious crash with 16.10, where this message is the closest I can get to the source - I loose access to my nvme storage completely and thus, the system is unusable until powercycled; nvme 0000:05:00.0: Failed status: 0xffffffff, reset controller - Is this a known issue? A hardware fault (completely new laptop)?03:08
melvincvIs it possible for Linux Mint to join Ubuntu as a special Mint flavor? :)03:08
ipatrol!mint | melvincv03:08
ubottumelvincv: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org03:08
rflemingmelvincv: the Mint team has no interest in making Mint an Ubuntu flavour.03:09
melvincvI see. I am on Mint 18, but Hexchat asks me if I want to connect to #ubuntu ! Strange...03:11
ipatroltmus: it is, apparently it's a case of poorly-designed hardware03:11
ipatroltmus: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=21136203:11
NOVAtechiesmelvincv: is Hexchat packaged with Mint?  I thought that Konversation?03:13
halisaurusFor those running on Apple hardware (MBP/MBA), did you remap your super/meta/alt to match the keyboard or just stick with it and learn the new layout?03:13
melvincvYes. I am on it now. On Mint. After it offered to connect me to the #ubuntu channel.03:14
melvincvStrange because previous versions of Mint would automatically log me in to the right channels.03:14
Guest6072hello03:15
NOVAtechiesmelvincv: I've only played with Mint for a little bit.  I thought I would like it but I went right back to xubuntu03:15
Guest6072is some body use VIM with ubuntu ?03:16
ipatroltmus: speaking from personal and professional knowledge, I think using an SSD as the primary drive in a laptop is a bad idea03:16
tmusipatrol, i saw that post earlier but thought it inconclusive - I am using a Samsung device though, but I'm not sure of the exact model03:16
Guest6072is some body use VIM here  ?03:17
NOVAtechiesGuest6072:  yes people use vim03:17
tmusipatrol, well - it has served me well for 5 years on multiple devices. until this new laptop, I've never had an issue - And I'm never going back either! :)03:17
melvincvNOVAtechies, that brings me to my next question...03:18
tmuslemme see if there actually is a firmware update for this device03:18
melvincvWhy do people prefer Ubuntu over Mint?03:18
Guest6072NOVAtechies03:18
Guest6072hello  NOVAtechies03:18
nicomachusmelvincv: not really a question for this channel.03:18
ipatroltmus: if you've had it for five years, it could theoretically be an early sign of device failure, depending on the specific technology used03:18
NOVAtechiesmelvincv: to be honest i have no idea.03:18
Guest6072How i can send you a private section03:19
wedgieGuest6072: if you have a question just ask. Or ask in #vim if your question is about vim03:19
dchelo03:20
dclolollo03:20
melvincvnicomachus, not helpful, unless you point me in the right direction03:20
Guest6072wedgie thanks03:20
dclol03:21
ipatrolthe entire system of flash memory is basically that of repeatedly abusing lots of tiny transistors with abnormally high voltage pulses to get them to change their behavior03:21
squintymelvincv,  ask in #ubuntu-offtopic03:21
melvincvok03:22
wedgieipatrol: the reliability of ssd's has increased dramatically in the last few years. And they are especially good for laptops because they can stand up to they physical abuse of being moved around better than a spinning disk. I personally will never buy a laptop without an ssd again03:23
nicomachusmelvincv: read the /TOPIC03:23
tmusipatrol, i've had SSD in my laptops for 5 years+. This is a brand new laptop and a brand new nvme ssd03:25
ipatroltmus: oh, so it's a new SSD you mean, not the same one03:25
ipatrolwedgie: all true, but I'm personally waiting for true nvRAM to go into production that doesn't rely on such kludgy tricks03:31
Guest6072Dose anybosy write C language with VIM here  , i wanna ask some question ,thks03:36
tmusipatrol, absolutely - brand new one! :)03:41
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ljchey, i'm looking to install an old version of ubuntu (hardy heron - 8.04) so i can install an old package. so i don't have to go through the pain of having to install ubuntu, are the old package mgmt systems still working?03:44
ljcie installing hardy heron, i can install the old packages that will work on it03:44
wedgieljc: the packages should still work, but the repos aren't around anymore. You may be able to find archives somewhere... or if your lucky the package you want is on the CD03:52
ljcwedgie: thanks!04:01
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Guest32048exit04:24
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xenomadername jonzee04:37
Caluserljc    http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/04:46
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melquidezhey05:48
allagahello guys)))05:50
allagalets chat?05:51
allagaI'm looking for a foreign friend))) for communication)))05:51
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allagaim from Russia)))05:52
EvidloIs it possible to mirror only a specific architecture like x86_6406:05
lotuspsychjeEvidlo: whats your endgoal exactly?06:11
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ilzolendeis this an acceptable channel for asking random tech-support questions?06:35
Caluser2000ilzolende: Does it relate to ubuntu06:36
ilzolendeyes06:37
ilzolendeso, i must have hit some incorrect keyboard shortcut by mistake, because my display is in an extreme zoom mode of some kind06:37
ilzolendeit shows a zoomed-in segment of the screen, centered around the cursor06:37
ilzolendehow do i exit this mode?06:37
Caluser2000Can you log out? Then log in again.06:38
ilzolende...never mind, fixed it06:39
Caluser2000What did you do?06:39
ilzolende(held down alt, scrolled down)06:39
ilzolende(i thought that i couldn't do a web search because the zoom made firefox unusable, but actually links was just barely usable, and the answer was in the third search result)06:40
Caluser2000Cool06:42
ilzolendeyep, yay links, yay ubuntu forums (https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=997651)06:42
Caluser2000I'm using seamonky as my web browser.06:43
ilzolendethe channel did help, because you had a link to the channel rules instead of having them in the topic, so i realized i needed to view *that* link, and then i already had a usable browser06:43
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jonkyhi06:49
jonkyi upgraded from 15.10 to 16.10 via do-release-upgrade and at the end it said "The upgrade has completed but there were errors during the upgrade process." i haven't restarted yet.  should i be concerned?06:51
Seveasjonky: depends on the errors06:52
freakyyhi all. im having a problem with a dvd burner under windows as under ubuntu. i wanted to ask, is there a way i can update my dvd writers firmware under linux?06:54
freakyyi dont know how to find out the model06:54
freakyyand how to find out what firmware it's using06:55
freakyyit keeps faling at determining optimal power settings06:55
freakyyi dont know why06:56
Caluser2000If its not working in linux or windows I'd toss the drive.06:56
freakyycd burning works, but not dvd burning06:56
freakyyits not even working on different dvd media07:00
Seveastrashcan time07:01
Seveaswhy would you burn dvds anyway in 201607:02
freakyySeveas: boot iso07:03
Seveasuse a usb stick07:03
freakyywell i dont have nay07:04
freakyyany07:04
Seveasthey're cheaper than dvd burners. Hell, they're cheaper than blank dvd's these days...07:05
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Caluser2000Thats bit like asking who uses floppy drives though--> to support my old hardware.07:09
Seveasold hardware doesn't need floppies. It needs thermite :)07:10
Caluser2000lol07:10
freakyywell guys, how do i find out what exact dvd burner drive i have?07:11
Seveasif a computer is old enough to not support usb booting, it's not worth maintaining. Nostalgia is useless, you're just wasting your time.07:11
Caluser2000freakyy: rip it out and have a look.07:13
freakyycan anyone help me and tell me how i can find out what driv ei have ;D07:13
Caluser2000Sevea: What if that hardware is controlling manufacturing processes?07:14
Caluser2000There's a heap of old kit just doing that.07:14
Caluser2000Hell at my previous place of employment a Compact Deskpro was running diagnostic equipment. I donated a VGA card for it because they had no EGA monitor.07:17
freakyywell i have a recent pc07:18
freakyybut i dont have the moeny right now for an usb stick07:18
freakyyand my current usb stick is at a friends house somewhere where he cant find it07:18
freakyyi wrote him now i hope he can bring my usb stick07:18
freakyyit's a good one07:19
blueflame_hai friends iam new user for linux07:22
blueflame_i dont know about linux commands07:22
freakyyblueflame_: welcoem tot he linux world ;D07:23
freakyydo u have a system running?07:23
blueflame_anyone help me to crack wifi passswords07:23
freakyyno sorry ;P07:23
blueflame_yes i have but iam new user for linux i dont know anything07:23
Caluser2000http://ss64.com/bash/07:24
blueflame_i have no netconnect07:24
blueflame_iam using hotspots07:24
Caluser2000And...07:24
blueflame_iam a small boy i want to learn linux07:24
blueflame_ i install it on yesterday night07:24
Caluser2000I linked to a command summary07:25
blueflame_i have no money to brought a netconnect07:25
blueflame_so i waant to use aircrack ng for studing perpose only and net connect07:26
Caluser2000What version of Linux have you installed07:26
freakyyCaluser2000: look, this is my usb stick he cant find anymore: https://cloud.nextgamers.eu/s/YEcdJuDE2AkDYtg07:26
Caluser2000That link doesn't work.07:26
blueflame_backbox 4.607:27
blueflame_one of my friend run his own computer shop he said linux is power full so you start learning at linux so i install it07:29
freakyyCaluser2000: u need to accept the licence07:31
freakyyits selfmade07:31
freakyywell07:31
malkaunsblueflame_, so what do u think?07:32
freakyyit currently has unityhub licence i need to switch it to nextgamers.eu ;D07:32
blueflame_i dont know what is that tell me please about licence07:33
freakyyblueflame_: has nothing to do with u07:46
roshaltim getting dpkg error08:27
roshalti tried stack overflow08:27
roshaltresults08:27
michagogood morning08:34
hhee1guys08:35
hhee1if i paste something in terminal08:35
hhee1it adds something like 0~     -~  in begin and end08:35
hhee1WHAT is this?:)08:35
hhee1locale set as UTF-808:36
hhee1all params08:36
anddamI'm on OpenVZ, I just updated the system and I got "This version of the GNU libc requires kernel version 3.2 or later.  Older versions might work but are not officially supported. Please consider upgrading your kernel."08:36
anddamI understand in openvz the kernel is constrained but what would be a proper path to system upgrade then?08:37
anddamare there different repositories for it and should my hosting provider offer those?08:37
ducasseanddam: openvz is a container system aiui, so the host provides the kernel08:40
rootkeaHi! How can I expand the pattern stored in a parameter? i.e. parameter expansion followed by pattern expansion08:43
rootkeae.g. p={*,.[^.],.??*}; ls ~/$p08:43
rootkeaI'm using bash BTW08:44
ducasserootkea: that is a better question for #bash, for example08:44
rootkeaducasse: umm Okay. Actually I asked that in #bash but still no reply so I thought may be I should ask here too :)08:46
ducasserootkea: did you try ##linux as well?08:47
rootkeaducasse: Thanks! Right away!08:49
FireStrikerhi im looking for a dock like ubuntu for xubuntu09:02
baizonFireStriker: dockbarx09:02
baizonFireStriker: or docky, or cairo-dock09:03
FireStrikerok09:03
FireStrikerwhich one runs smoth looks nice while being lightweight09:03
baizonFireStriker: that i cant tell, im not using them09:03
FireStrikerlol09:04
baizonFireStriker: but i guess google can tell you that :)09:04
FireStrikerdidnt know if you knew or not lol09:04
FireStrikerdo you use flat ubuntu09:04
baizonFireStriker: yes i am09:04
anddamducasse:yes, the hoster provides the kernel but the userland is regular ubuntu so when I update I can have a message like the one I pasted09:11
anddammy question is if I should be doing something different09:11
igianngood mornig to ubuntu channel09:24
andyworkgood morning09:38
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ArchaicLordHello.. first time here.. hoping to ask for some help with Ubuntu server 16.04 if possible09:39
bazhangwhy not try #ubuntu-server ArchaicLord09:41
andyworkArchaicLord: you could try, but there is actually a dedicated channel #ubuntu-server09:41
ArchaicLordah ok cool thanks.. sorry first time on irc a friend suggested to me to use this service09:41
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ArchaicLordhmm doesn't seem very active over there? Any suggestions how to wake people up? I see lots of people are connected but no one is home :(09:49
MordessinNobody wants help09:50
bazhangMordessin, we wait for them to ask09:50
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getfatwhois getfat10:00
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user_hello?10:04
te_lanushi10:05
user_is anyone active here?10:08
FMannot really10:09
andyworkuser_: you look like you have questions, try ask them, then linger here for a while10:09
user_well thats boring10:10
bazhangchat in #ubuntu-offtopic while you wait user_10:10
user_ok10:10
teenishey user_10:11
teeniswhats your cell #10:11
teenisI need it to verify my tinder account10:11
teenisty10:11
user_lol10:11
valdivarHello10:11
teenisno seriously10:11
user_ok10:12
user_its 555-5555-555-55510:12
teenisi dont think that's right10:12
user_have you tried it?10:12
teeniscould you just try to co-operate here10:12
teenisit wont let me submit that10:13
user_well im in a low earth orbit so i dont think it will work10:13
bazhanguser_, and teenis take this chat elsewhere please10:13
user_okok10:16
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BluesKajHiyas all10:42
OerHekshi BluesKaj10:42
BluesKajhey OerHeks10:42
root____8helllo11:11
root____8some body here /11:11
root____811:11
OerHeks:-)11:13
OerHeks!rootirc11:13
ubottuIt's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.11:13
iparhanhello11:18
* iparhan 11:19
BirossoHELLOH.11:20
xJeremyCxHey ya. I'm trying to create a desktop file and upon double click, it shows me a list of dns addresses. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23465375/11:32
xJeremyCxhowever, the terminal window closes immediately11:33
xJeremyCxWhy doesn't read -p ''" wait for my keyboard input before the window is closed?11:34
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Maximus641Hey, is it possible to get some help here?11:44
OerHeksMaximus641, ask, wait and see11:44
MonkeyDustMaximus641  this is the help channel, so yes11:44
ville-haavistov11:44
jakyd11:45
Maximus641Ok then. I am switching from windows to linux now. and i was trying to configure my own keyboard layout. I have seen that they are stored in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols11:45
ville-haavistoI'm lonely and I wanna die11:45
MonkeyDustville-haavisto  wrong channel11:45
Maximus641and the layouts are all files. In the bulgarian file there are some kind of macros like "Cyrillic_ya". i can not find any definition where it is being resolved to a unicode letter. where can i find that?11:46
King_HualMonkeyDust: you just contributed to someone's suicide11:47
BluesKajville-haavisto, why? it's not January in Finland yet :-)11:47
traceur920Hi there, can someone enlighten me on how to overcome dependencies problems that "cannot be solved"? I've a package that asks for libatkmm-1.6-1 and says that has been replaced by libatkmm-2.22.1 but doesn't let me go on11:47
traceur920(I'm trying to install VBA-M)11:48
popeywhere you installing vba-m from?11:49
traceur920Package from Sourceforge11:49
traceur920https://sourceforge.net/projects/vbam/11:50
popeywhat are you installing on?11:51
traceur920Lubuntu 16.04.111:52
popeyright, that's not gonna work11:52
popeyneeds rebuilding for newer releases11:52
traceur920From source?11:52
popeyyeah11:52
pconstantin?11:53
traceur920Cannot find them >.>11:53
popeyhttps://github.com/visualboyadvance-m/visualboyadvance-m.git11:53
popeythats what I build from :)11:53
traceur920Uh, right :|11:54
traceur920Not so familiar with Git, probably missed the link11:54
popeyam building now to see if it still works11:55
traceur920Thank you, I'll try and report :)11:56
popeybah, fails to build here, sorry.11:56
arm1eAny help with wifi issues on intel chip. Often downloads fail part way, and iso's never match the checksums unless I use ethernet. Have updated to kernel 4.6.7 on 16.04 but still no luck11:58
traceur920popey: how do you build this?11:58
arm1eDid not have this issue on other, non ubuntu installs11:58
ikoniaarm1e: where did you get that kernel ?11:58
arm1eused the kernel updater tool recently released in a ppa. Hold on and I will find the tool11:59
arm1ehttp://www.teejeetech.in/2016/04/ubuntu-kernel-upgrade-utility.html12:00
arm1eworks well12:00
ikoniaarm1e: so basically you've moved to an unsupported kernel using an unsupported tool12:00
arm1etried other, supported kernels12:00
arm1ealso triey yakety12:00
arm1e*tried12:00
ikoniayou used the kernel from yakety on your current release12:00
arm1epopey, I have the same wifi card as you. Do you still have issues?12:01
arm1eikonia, No, I had this same issue on yakety12:01
popeyyou may or may not have the same card as me :)12:01
popey03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7265 (rev 59)12:01
arm1epopey, you helped me in the past12:01
popeythat's what I have12:01
arm1eNetwork controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 (rev bb)12:02
arm1eso not then12:02
popeyso close12:02
FireStrikerdoes anyone here know how to install doom 3?12:02
popeymine no longer drops off wifi at all12:02
FireStrikeri have been have some problems12:02
popey4.4.0-45-generic12:02
ikoniaFireStriker: from what ?12:02
traceur920(back with problems, seems the same with the deb package )12:03
FireStrikerdhewm312:03
ikoniapopey: didn't 2 or 3 wifi cards from intel get firmware updates back ported recently ?12:03
arm1epopey, 16.04?12:03
tomreyntraceur920: git clone https://github.com/visualboyadvance-m/visualboyadvance-m; cd visualboyadvance-m; cmake .; make -j `lscpu -p | grep -c '^[0-9]' | xargs -I '{}' expr '{}' - 1`12:05
popeyyes arm1e12:05
popeyikonia: pass12:05
arm1epopey, lucky bugger12:05
popey 12:05:36 up 18 days, 19:10, 17 users,  load average: 0.73, 0.97, 0.9712:05
popeyseems to work okay here. not sure what is causing it for others, I know there's a few issues around this which are being looked into12:05
arm1epopey, which kernel12:05
popeylook up12:06
popeyI'd file a bug if I were you, at least12:06
traceur920tomreyn, thank you, will try but seems I do not have some old libraries12:06
traceur920too old to be installed12:06
tomreyntraceur920: and it builds for me (on ubuntu 16.04 x86_64), but i think building a specific software is considered OT here (maybe #ubuntu-offtopic would work if you have a registered nickname)12:07
traceur920Oh, ok, sorry :)12:08
traceur920tomreyn, no luck, same errors... anyway thanks!12:09
FireStrikerikonia: im using dhewm3 to install doom312:10
tomreyntraceur920: as i said, it builds fine for me on 16.04. do you have something newer then?12:10
traceur920Lubuntu 16.04.1 counts as new?12:11
tomreyntraceur920: that's the same release12:11
tomreyn(just a different blend)12:12
tomreynyou probably just lack some build dependency (*-dev) packages.12:13
traceur920libatkmm-1.6-1 --> 2.22.1 and a bunch of SFML libraries that cannot be installed, but no idea why12:13
tomreyntraceur920: we can talk in #ubuntu-offtopic for a bit if you like12:15
tewho te12:16
traceur920sure12:18
arm1eswitching back to main kernel to test12:18
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FireStrikerhey guys i have been trying to install doom312:24
FireStrikeri need a little be of help12:24
FireStrikeri have been using dhewm312:25
mlvmhnanyone know the best software for video editing?12:25
bekks"best" is always part of your personal opinion.12:26
mlvmhnKdenlive is good?12:27
bekksIf you like it and if it fits your needs, it is good.12:27
arm1eon stock kernel but need to update. get this error:12:29
arm1eE: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-extra-4.4.0-47-generic_4.4.0-47.68_amd64.deb  Hash Sum mismatch12:29
mlvmhnk, what do i need for hardware to run video editing smoothly?12:30
bekksmlvmhn: thats a good question for ##hardware12:31
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Guest32712arm1e: do12:32
Guest32712apt-get clean12:32
Guest32712apt-get update12:32
Guest32712and retry12:32
arm1eGuest32712, cheers.12:37
MonkeyDustarm1e  works?12:38
arm1efinished the update but not sure about other downloads12:39
arm1ewill download an iso and do a checksum12:39
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debkadi want to switch from firefox to something else, any suggestion?12:47
arm1edebkad, vivaldi is good12:49
debkadarm1e: thanks i will test it12:49
tomreyndebkad: chromium is another open source, full featured, up to date, web browser.12:49
Druidchromium has binary blobs12:50
tomreyn(which is in the repositories, too)12:50
tomreynDruid: the one in ubuntu?12:50
debkadwhich one is light?12:50
Druidwait12:51
DruidI think they removed it12:51
Druidhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/26/googles_not_listening_binary_blob_banished_from_chromium_build/12:52
Druidsorry for outdated info12:52
debkadah12:52
ville-haavistoI'm lonely and I wanna die!12:52
ville-haavistoI'm lonely and I wanna die!412:53
ville-haavistoI'm lonely and I wanna die!12:53
ville-haavistoI'm lonely and I wanna die!12:53
tomreynville-haavisto: stop12:53
debkado_o12:53
ville-haavistoI'm gonna kill myself tonight!12:54
debkadnot good12:54
arm1eMonkeyDust, update worked but downloaded iso does not match md5 sum12:56
debkadarm1e: seems like vivaldi not exist on the repos, is it available from source only or it have another name on the repos?12:56
arm1edebkad, download deb from website or add a ppa12:56
debkadah ok thanks12:57
sweet12i have ubutnu15.04 and i want to upgrade to 16.04 can you help me please?12:58
ville-haavistoNobody loves me and I'm down and out!12:58
BluesKajsweet12, clean install is the only way now12:59
tomreynsweet12: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/12:59
ville-haavisto Nobody loves me and I'm down and out!12:59
ville-haavisto Nobody loves me and I'm down and out!12:59
Guest32712!upgrade | sweet1212:59
ubottusweet12: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade12:59
ville-haavisto Nobody loves me and I'm down and out!12:59
debkadville-haavisto: don't care about the others, and there is always who love you12:59
ville-haavistoI'm gonna kill myself tonight!13:00
ville-haavistoI'M GONNA KILL MYSELF TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!13:00
pauljwget back to us tomorrow and let us know how it went..13:01
Guest32712go ahead 🔫13:01
BluesKajville-haavisto, you need a shrink, we don't offer that service here13:01
sweet12Blueskaj: how can i make it fresh install with out affecting window machine which is in dual boot?13:01
ville-haavistoI'm just a dying man...13:02
BluesKajsweet12, use the manual partitioning and install to the ext4/linux partition13:04
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TJ-lxc with unprivileged container using the server guide example fails, can't find any bug reports, any ideas?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23465767/13:27
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andrea_hello13:30
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alberto_hola que ta13:35
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SaIasaAllMyBoyzany flat icons for 16.10?13:42
TJ-All icons are flat, we don't do holographic or pseudo-3D desktops as yet :)13:43
SaIasaAllMyBoyzTJ-, a few recommendations please13:44
TJ-SaIasaAllMyBoyz: no idea, I don't use GUI if I can avoid it13:44
SaIasaAllMyBoyzdo you other other set of icons than the default one?13:44
SaIasaAllMyBoyzs/other/use13:45
jattnumix-icon-theme-circle13:45
maria_oThs guy spamming on join : Belka13:46
maria_ohi btw.13:46
gde33is it normal for things like indicator-datetime-service and evolution-calendar-factory-subprocess to be using over a gb in virtua memory?13:47
gde33each13:48
TJ-gde33: the 'virtual memory' usually indicates all the shared libraries in use, which are shared across multiple processes but are only in memory once13:49
rexwin_I have following sudoers file. http://pastebin.ca/373836213:49
SaIasaAllMyBoyzjatt, thanks, but i cant find icons there for the apps i use13:49
rexwin_how to restrick user asx so that he can run only sudo apt-get and nothing else?13:49
maria_oI am on a macbook Sierra. Is it possible to install ubuntu as a side OS? I mean choose one of them on restart? (without rEFInd or such)13:49
gde33TJ-: strange that it uses vm for that but ok13:50
SaIasaAllMyBoyzdo you know an falt icon theme rich in icons for apps and usable in 16.10?13:50
SaIasaAllMyBoyzs/falt/flat13:50
SaIasaAllMyBoyzi used to use ultra-flat-icons but theyre not available for 16.10 yet13:56
TJ-gde33: When a shared object is loaded by the kernel it is mapped into each process's virtual memory addresses from a single mapping in the kernel's mapping, so that it doesn't use up memory space with duplicates13:57
gde33TJ-: I guess I'm just confused by it being called datetime and calendar13:58
gde33those are just the first processes mapping objects?13:59
TJ-gde33: as far as i recall they are 'backend' services from the Evolution package in Gnome uses to provide the same services to the desktop. I agree that Gnome/Unity seems to be needlessly top-heavy in that respect.13:59
TJ-gde33: example - say we have libexmaple.so loaded by example.exe ... then if later example2.exe also loads libexample.so the Linux kernel will simply map its existing image into example2.exe's virtual memory address space14:00
gde33ye makes sense14:01
TJ-gde33: so only one copy of libexample.so is actually using real, physical, RAM14:01
TJ-gde33: this is one of the benefits of using dynamic load libraries (DLL)/shared objects (SO)14:02
gde33any way to live without the calendar thing?14:03
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gde33am I using it?14:05
TJ-gde33: As far a I know it is part of the underlying plumbing for Gnome based desktops14:09
gde33ill stop worrying and learn to love the gnome desktop :P14:10
SaIasaAllMyBoyzi found this theme https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1012430/ - seems to work well and it looks nice14:10
SaIasaAllMyBoyzits a flat icon theme14:10
gde33SaIasaAllMyBoyz: what does flat mean in that context?14:11
gde33a single layer?14:11
FireStrikerhey guys im farly new to ubuntu, how do i install/use wine/playonlinux14:11
SaIasaAllMyBoyzfrankly, i use 'flat' only as a tag for what i like14:11
gde33SaIasaAllMyBoyz: I've seen it mentioned before14:11
maria_oGuys is ubuntu much lighter than windows? can work with less hardware support? is that true or just a sroty.14:12
maria_ostory14:13
elias_aTrue.14:13
SaIasaAllMyBoyzmaria_o, are you Romanian?14:13
elias_amaria_o: Try it. You will be surprized. :)14:13
gde33dSaIasaAllMyBoyz: ic, it is just a buzz word used for simple14:13
SaIasaAllMyBoyzwe can have a simple icon thats not a flat icon14:14
SaIasaAllMyBoyzi hate semantics14:14
SaIasaAllMyBoyztoo subtle, too subtle for my mind14:15
SaIasaAllMyBoyzi wish the design freeze at 'flat' stage - flat is just perfect, lets stop evolve14:16
SaIasaAllMyBoyzthere are already people wondering "whats next?"14:17
TJ-SaIasaAllMyBoyz: flat is bad for icons; the entire point of the 3D relief/borders is to give clear context around an 'active' GUI component.14:17
maria_oelias_a:  it's more slower than my windows 714:17
TJ-SaIasaAllMyBoyz: for people with visual or perception difficulties that can be vital14:17
maria_oelias_a:  Everythings lags..14:17
SchrodingersScatmaria_o: and there's flavors lighter than ubuntu, like xubuntu (my personal fav) and lubuntu14:17
SaIasaAllMyBoyzTJ-, gray means disabled, find another color for 'clicked'14:18
user1786519maria_o: depends on your luck. and hardware14:18
SeventeenHi everybody. Need help with something. What chan should I ask in?14:19
SaIasaAllMyBoyzubuntu has a new feature: if n app stops responding, it gets darker14:19
SaIasaAllMyBoyzits quite nice14:19
SaIasaAllMyBoyza windowed app14:19
SaIasaAllMyBoyzi dont know if its new, but i do know i just discovered it14:20
elias_amaria_o: Same hardware? You have to have something misconfigured.14:21
TJ-SaIasaAllMyBoyz: you're missing the point - the border of a button, or check-box, distinguishes it. Some people will not be able to recognise colour variations14:21
SaIasaAllMyBoyzok, TJ-14:21
elias_amaria_o: Are you sure you have a swap partition?14:21
TJ-maria_o: are you using Ubuntu with Unity or Gnome, that require '3D' accelerated video drivers?14:21
elias_amaria_o: Tell us your hardware specs.14:22
SaIasaAllMyBoyzsomeone used to say "the best interface is no interface"14:22
SaIasaAllMyBoyzi forgot his name14:23
user1786519not even command line14:23
SaIasaAllMyBoyznot even14:23
derbieHello14:24
user1786519and multimeter14:24
derbieE: Package 'openjdk-7-jdk' has no installation candidate14:24
derbieWhat to do?14:24
maria_oelias_a:  I have swap partition14:24
user1786519maria_o: is your hdd indicator blinking or staying on?14:25
SeventeenWell that was a disaster. Be nice if Screen didn't explode on me, since that defeats the whole point of Screen.14:25
SchrodingersScatSeventeen: welcome back.  and if you're not sure you can ask the question here, then someone may direct you elsewhere if it's inappropriate for here.  there's also the alis bot !alis14:26
cfhowlettderbie, are you on 16.04?  then openjdk-8 is your flavor14:26
SeventeenAnyway: Does anyone know what logs I should be looking at to find out why login screen -> passwd -> login begins -> get kicked back out to the login screen keeps happening for all my users after a recent package update? I've checked auth.log and, while it shows a failure of PAM and kwallet interaction, I'm not convinced that's the real problem.14:27
SeventeenSchrodingsScat: Thanks.14:27
user1786519i had login loop when i mess with xorg.conf trying to get it to use intel instead of nvidia14:28
user1786519so...maybe check xorg log?14:29
t0byI'm sorry, has anybody managed to actually *mount* a Mega.co.nz account? There are a bunch of FUSE clients out there, but the ones I tried seem to behave very erratically.14:31
danielnov8Anyone know how to keep the firewall gufw status 'ON' at all times? I have to run gufw and click status on evey time I boot up.14:32
cfhowlett!ufw | danielnov8,14:32
ubottudanielnov8,: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as gufw and ufw-kde also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo14:32
ArchaicLordHi all, I have a raid5 disk array. Today I created a LVM for it..14:34
ArchaicLordmount /dev/lvm-raid/lvm0 /mnt14:34
ArchaicLorddf -h /mnt14:35
ArchaicLordwhich gives me14:35
ArchaicLordFilesystem                 Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on14:35
ArchaicLord/dev/mapper/lvm_raid-lvm0  5.5T   34M  5.5T   1% /mnt14:35
danielnov8ffhowlett: yes I know. When I used linux Mint once status was on it remained on always until turned off. Not sured why ubuntu turns it off at start up...14:35
ArchaicLordnow I am confused how to write a file to it.. I14:35
cfhowlettdanielnov8, wild guess: contradictory commands in a config file ... somewhere.14:36
ArchaicLordor create a directory tree I tried mkdir test /dev/mapper/lvm_rad-lvm0/mnt and told its not a directory so not sure where to go from here14:37
SaIasaAllMyBoyzi had some issues with my icon theme (i use a dark theme) and i chose to install https://github.com/numixproject/numix-icon-theme-circle14:37
user1786519danielnov8: if everything else fails, start it in /etc/init.d/rc.local14:38
derbie@cfhowlett yes I am, i'm trying to run mozilla's bootstrapping script14:39
derbiehowever, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131600514:39
ubottuMozilla bug 1316005 in General "[findbugs] [UMAC] Uncallable method defined in anonymous class" [Normal,New]14:39
derbieOups14:40
derbiehttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129264914:40
ubottuMozilla bug 1292649 in Build Config "|mach bootstrap| fails for mobile/android on Debian: package openjdk-7 needs to be upgraded to openjdk-8" [Normal,New]14:40
TJ-ArchaicLord: you've done "mount <device> <mountpoint>" so the file-system is available under <mountpoint> which in your case wa "/mnt/", yes?14:40
derbieand https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126709714:41
ubottuMozilla bug 1267097 in Build Config "Fennec bootstrap failure on Ubuntu Xenial 16.04 due to no openjdk-7-jdk" [Normal,New]14:41
ArchaicLordah ok.. anychance i can change the mount to something more logical like lv_mount?14:42
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ArchaicLordI am afraid the OS has a /mnt/ as well and its to ambiguous to distingish between the two14:43
TJ-ArchaicLord: you can use any regular directory as a mount-point, as long as it exists. It helps if it is empty since if you mount over a directory that has content that content will be invisible until you un-mount14:43
TJ-ArchaicLord: well what I do is create sub-dirs under /mnt/ for each device, so e.g. "sudo mkdir /mnt/testing && sudo mount /dev/<some-device> /mnt/testing"14:44
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yellabs-r2is there a barcode reader program , to use with usb bar code reader14:44
compdocbelka is some sort of bot with a /join msg saying to visit some website14:44
compdoc<belka> íîâèÿ ñàéò áåçïëàòíî Å! http://www.nam....14:45
donjuancompdoc, same me to14:46
donjuanmeaby spam ?14:46
cfhowlettspam yes.  it does happen14:46
Greencloudhowdy!14:46
compdocsay it aint so!14:46
protnhi14:47
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protnwhen I press toggle combo to switch language nothing happen14:48
flux242why isn't it banned from the channel?14:48
flux242the spammer I mean14:48
|VAH|-htmldudedoes anyone know how to install urban terror on ubuntu14:48
user1786519protn: input method editor?14:48
donjuanmy question why ubuntu not use a rolling release like archlinux14:48
protnuser1786519:  how would I start it?14:49
cfhowlettdonjuan, it was discussed, debated and decided.14:49
|VAH|-htmldudedoes anyone know how to install urban terror on ubuntu14:49
flux242donjuan: they aren't that stupid14:49
jattwhat is a rolling release14:49
donjuanhaha, cz i hate version14:49
zhi......14:49
zhii no speek engelishi14:50
user1786519protn: check what ime system you have in settings -> language14:50
cfhowlettzhi, what language?14:50
zhido you bown chanises?14:50
cfhowlett!cn | zhi14:50
ubottuzhi: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw14:50
user1786519then install the corresponding ime packages, like fcitx-chewing for fcitx+chinese14:51
ArchaicLordthanks <TJ>14:52
flux242so, do I understand correct that the channel ops own belka spam bot?14:52
protnyes14:52
flux242fuck it14:52
cfhowlettflux242, that spambot is NOT from the ops.  do not spread misinformation.14:52
zhi-。-14:53
Seventeenuser1786519: Thanks. Yea I've tried that, some more log entries that are probably nothing but might be something.14:54
ArchaicLordTJ-: thanks tj that helped.. i see how i can mount more than one point at a time.. sorry i am completly new to this14:56
resurtmHello! How can I list packages installed locally with "dpkg -i"? Google does not help me with that. Thanks!14:56
user1786519dpkg -l14:57
resurtmuser1786519, it lists all packages, even installed with apt-get install %packagename%.14:57
resurtmI need to list only those I've installed locally from deb files.14:57
user1786519hmm.14:58
ArchaicLordso now can i assume i can create a samba share on /mnt/file14:58
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TJ-ArchaicLord: we all have to start sometime :)14:58
ArchaicLorddo i need to add the locattion to mount on startup ?14:58
TJ-ArchaicLord: usually you will, for system-wide mount points, via /etc/fstab14:59
zhi15:00
zhi。。。15:00
resurtmuser1786519, aptitude search "~o" does what I want. Thank you anyway! :-)15:00
ArchaicLordsorry I have ubuntu server installed on usb.. and created a raid aray for my media data and backups.. I create a raid5 array and today learned i needed ot create lvm and lv for it which is what i just finished15:00
tomreynresurtm: it's not easy, and you should not install packages using dpkg, if it can be prevented. here's something which gets close to what you are looking for: sudo apt-get install apt-show-versions; apt-show-versions | grep -Ev '(not installed|uptodate)$'15:00
ArchaicLordso now i want to create samba share to then back up and share media save anad al that15:00
resurtmtomreyn, I know installing fom *.deb is not very good. But unfortunately not all software provides PPA or repos.15:01
resurtmtomreyn, aptitude search "~o" did what I wanted.15:01
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tomreynyes, this does pretty much the same, i guess15:01
TJ-ArchaicLord: RAID-5 is generally discouraged in favour of RAID-6 or RAID 1+0 or RAID 0+1 (striped mirrors) - is there a reason for choosing RAID-5 - are you aware of what your recovery options will be shoud 1 or more devices fail?15:02
resurtmtomreyn, thanks anyway!15:02
ArchaicLordTJ-:  I am now.. I should get a new disk on order asap15:02
ArchaicLordTJ-: when i read about raid i figured 5 was best for reduncay speed and space15:03
TJ-ArchaicLord: OK, just that as you're planning on relying on it, be triple-sure it can surivive and rebuild from failure15:03
tomreynread again, comparing 5 to 6, then 6 to 10 / 1+015:04
TJ-ArchaicLord: don't wait until you hit a failure to learn, and practice, how to recover it15:04
ArchaicLordi know about 1+0 I done that in windows....15:04
ArchaicLordits just I have 4*2tb drivce and leaving me with 2tb is just well not enough15:04
Guest69618h15:05
tomreynthen buy more drives (and drive bays, controllers, larger computer, if needed) or be prepared to spend more time restoring.15:05
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Guest69618v15:06
tomreyn(either approach can work, depends on your use case)15:07
ArchaicLordwhats recommended between 6 and 1+015:07
ArchaicLordI guess 1+0 is best redundncyt15:08
TJ-ArchaicLord: I always prefer mirroring because its so much easier to continue/recovery than most other configs. in a 3-disk mirror I can pull out 2 disks and still have a complete file-system to work with15:08
nomicbelka = spamming bot15:08
nomicops15:08
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ArchaicLordmy use case is I built a ubuntu server for backign up my laptops, pcs as well as storing and sharing medai.. IE I want to install plex to host my dvds on or music15:09
TJ-ArchaicLord: with other levels there's a point where it is incredibily difficult to even begin recovery, let alone continue limping15:09
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compdocArchaicLord, I installed plex on a server recently15:09
zhiyou talking about15:09
cfhowlett!cn | zhi,15:10
ubottuzhi,: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw15:10
ArchaicLordI use to run Freenas on this box.. but the thing just feell over all the dam so changed to Ubuntu server.. but doing so I had to install the on a usb and crate the array on the 4 disks after..15:10
zhisee message pleasesay 115:10
compdocusb isnt as reliable as a small ssd. nor as fast15:11
ArchaicLordyeah.. time and moneyu15:11
ArchaicLordi am student with a wife and 2 kids.. cash is no existant15:12
TJ-ArchaicLord: keep an always-up-to-date image backup of the USB OS installation so in the event that device breaks you can always quickly create a replacement15:12
ArchaicLordI have a 4tb usb drive for such a thing..15:13
ArchaicLordI decided having a back up of the back up is also a good idea.. preferbly its kept offline which is why when i first raided the disk i also got the 4tb usb drive but i could never image the freenas over the network15:14
ArchaicLordso i just copied teh data..15:14
ArchaicLordi am now like ahrhhhh.... i spent all after noon learnign and setting up the lvm.... and now i prob have to destroy it and do it propperly with 1+015:15
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ArchaicLordok is it possibleto change raid5 to raid 10 ?15:21
Keitarohello all15:23
ArchaicLordhi15:23
TJ-ArchaicLord: no; you'd need to remove the existing RAID-5 metadata/labels and create fresh RAID-1015:24
Keitarowhen we upgrade ubuntu and got a new kernel version do we need to change something with the uefi secure boot to take it effective ? or no need15:24
TJ-Keitaro: if the system already has a signed kernel image installed the upgrade will be to the later signed kernel image15:26
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KeitaroT3 oki and how we can know that ? by default when we install ubuntu for the first time with the iso it is a signed kernel right ?15:27
TJ-Keitaro: if it installs in UEFI mode I believe so. Quick check is to list the installed kernel images with "dpkg-query -l 'linux-image*' | grep ^ii  "15:31
Keitarooki i will do that thx15:31
TJ-Keitaro: the package names will end with "-signed" if the secure-boot kernels are installed15:31
SeventeenTIME HOSTNAME gnome-session[NUMBER]: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry....15:31
SeventeenTIME HOSTNAME gnome-keyring-daemon[NUMBER]: couldn't set environment variable in session: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files15:31
SeventeenTIME HOSTNAME lightdm: pam_unix(lightdm:session): session closed for user USER15:31
KeitaroTJ-, i do that after because if i do i need to restart15:32
Keitaro^^15:32
TJ-Keitaro: you mean you're still using the installer?15:33
noobie_hello:) how i can block internet for app running by wine?15:35
KeitaroTJ-, no no just that i am working on windows atm so to go in linux to check i need to restart ^^15:35
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TJ-Keitaro: ahhh, i see! have you thought of booting the Linux install from a virtual machine via something like HyperV or VirtualBox ?15:37
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KeitaroTJ-, yes i already have debian on my vmware that why i install ubuntu in native15:39
ArchaicLordTJ-:  i removed the lvm...15:46
ArchaicLordvgdisplay returns nothing15:47
beantaxiHi all ... I'm trying to give sudo rights to a brand new account on a brand new server. I've added the user to the sudo group, but when I try and sudo as that user, I am prompted for a password ... but I don't have a pasword since I only allow login via ssh + rsa. What do I need to do, to be able to sudo w no password?15:48
TJ-ArchaicLord: that makes sense15:49
MonkeyDustbeantaxi  at some point, you had to enter a password15:50
john__hi15:50
john__i just tried installing core kvm on my ubuntu15:51
tomreynbeantaxi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/147241/execute-sudo-without-password#14726515:51
john__something went wrong15:51
john__how do i get rid of it so that i can go through the process again15:51
tomreynbeantaxi: but be aware that this allows this user to run any command as root. so if the user account is compromised, so is root and thus the entire server.15:51
padandoing a new install on a system with 3 nvme ssds, wanted to do sw r5 on them, but the setup guide seems to be missing the option to configure sw raid15:54
padanis that gone in 16.10?15:54
ArchaicLordTJ-:  is there a way now in madam to change the array or do i need to reformat each disk individual an re parttion them and create the array from scratch15:56
beantaxiMonkeyDust: I did not have to enter a password at any point. I created the account with --disabled-password, and added a public key to the user's authorized_keys as root.15:57
TJ-ArchaicLord: with mdadm you need to --zero-superblock  to remove existing metadata from the disks then start creating the new array15:57
beantaxitomreyn: Thanks, I read that earlier. AHHHHhhhh now I get it. I thought I was covered, since my user is in sudo and /etc/sudoers gives privileges to the sudo group. But, I need NOPASSWD on a user by user basis15:59
beantaxiThis might be OT ... but what's best/common practice, for scripting a file edit, like adding a line to sudoers? I'd like to do it remotely, rather than interactively on the new server16:01
Globalirchello all i have a problem i installed php5 and when i give this command php -v i don't get the version i get this php5 -version -bash: /usr/bin/php5: No such file or directory somebody know how i can fix this ? this is installed version http://paste.ubuntu.com/23466372/16:01
jattyou shouldn't run commands as root16:02
Globalircjatt ohh yea damit16:03
k_hi my audio stopped working all i am seeing is dummy output16:03
beantaxijatt: agreed ... the only thing I am doing as root, is creating a sysop user which has sudo, and then I'll do everything else as sysop16:03
TJ-beantaxi: don't write to /etc/sudoers. Simply add a file per purpose in /etc/sudoers.d/ then you simply copy files into place using your orchestration/config tooling or scp16:04
beantaxiTJ-: Thanks. I like that.16:04
TJ-beantaxi: /etc/sudoers should end with the line "#includedir /etc/sudoers.d"16:05
IndustrialHi! The last time I shut down from Ubuntu the external monitor was connected and the laptop display closed. Now when I boot ubuntu it goes black when LightDM starts. With windows it works on the laptop display after I wake it from sleep but pressing the power button in lightDM doesn't make it sleep.16:05
IndustrialWhat do I do to get my display back in Ubuntu on my laptop? I don't have the external display anymore..16:06
IndustrialCTRL+ALT+F1 gives me nothing, no TTY to log in to.16:06
ArchaicLordTJ-: any way of checking superblock 0?16:08
ArchaicLordi ran mdadm --zero-superblock on all 4 disks in the previous raid16:09
IndustrialAnyone? :-(16:10
TJ-ArchaicLord: that should be fine, that'll ensure when you create the new RAID device mdadm doesn't complain about existing metadata16:11
MonkeyDustIndustrial  use the up arrow to repeat your question every 15 minutes or so, until someone enters who can help16:11
SeventeenIndustrial: Can you get back into LXDE? Menu -> Preferences -> Monitor Settings16:15
PonyLoverHey everyone16:17
ArchaicLord# ls -l /dev/sda16:18
ArchaicLordbrw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 0 Nov 12 16:07 /dev/sda16:18
ArchaicLorddoes this mean there is no partiton now on disks?16:18
SeventeenArchaicLord: ls -l /dev/sda*16:20
PonyLoveris there anyone else here who likes My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic16:20
ArchaicLordbrw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 0 Nov 12 16:07 /dev/sda16:21
PonyLoversomeone help me16:21
ArchaicLordSeventeen: brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 0 Nov 12 16:07 /dev/sda16:21
PonyLoverwhat is going on here16:21
PonyLoverthis makes no sense16:22
hippybearPonyLover: take it to #Ubuntu-offtopic16:22
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motorolamanBluetooth Audio problems: paired but not connected, host down and other error messages are the usual result when I have paired and trusted headset.16:25
motorolamanwhen i reboot i usually have to remove the (already trusted and paired device) in order to reconnect it to play audio until the next reboot16:26
motorolamanthis happens in Ubuntu, Debian, Mint and Arch Linux is bluetooth audio still flaky and not reliable?16:27
Seventeenmotorolaman: Without any experience, I would guess yes.16:30
motorolamani have tried 4 different headsets and 3 different usb dongles = same result16:30
Globalirci have loop problem with ubuntu 14  how i can fix this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23466506/ because i tri ctrl+c and apt-get remove sendmail and the same thing he loop infinity.16:30
Globalirctry*16:30
motorolamanremove headset from trusted paired list, reboot then search trust and connect16:30
motorolamani also experience this with Windows 7 exact same scenario16:31
MonkeyDustmotorolaman  if it works on neither system, then it must be a hardware issue16:32
SeventeenWell in that case yeah it must be hardware rather than Linux.16:33
motorolamananyone else use bluetooth headphones ?16:35
MonkeyDustvinyl records + 'old school' amplifier FTW16:35
Globalircsomeone know how to end infinite loop with apt-get ?16:37
MonkeyDustGlobalirc  ctrl-c16:37
hippybearhardcore16:38
motorolamanthe only reliable way i can use headset is wired, bluetooth audio is still experimental16:39
Guy1524so windows has done it again, my computer boots into windows instead of ubuntu now16:39
Guy1524how do I change this?16:39
GlobalircMonkeyDust i know that but when i try uninstall the package caused this infinite loop he do the same16:40
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ArchaicLordbefore I create this raid.. should I actually work out which disk is which ie.. d1 = sda and sticker them up before I create the new raid?16:41
MonkeyDustGlobalirc  workoaround: use synaptic to uninstall the package16:41
andyworkmotorolaman: I have had some issues with this on various older distributions, however bluetooth audio works better in Ubuntu 16.1016:42
andyworkmotorolaman: I may have to turn on/off the headset one or two times until it starts playing my tunes, but after that initialization process, it works well16:43
TJ-ArchaicLord: yes, it always make sense to do that. I use the serial numbers from "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/" to confirm those16:44
dhrubahi16:52
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micaalicahi hi16:52
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Opalhey :)16:53
Opalheyyy :)16:53
Fabrizio[m]hi, are you able to read me?16:54
MonkeyDustFabrizio[m]  hit harder on your keyboard, to make it more readable16:55
Fabrizio[m]I was asking because I'm using a matrix client, that is another protocol, so I wasn't sure you were ablet to read me16:56
Fabrizio[m]there are indeed some channels which I can't seem to be able to write16:56
MishariFabrizio[m],  ciao caro.16:58
Misharima, che fai ti lavita ?16:59
Fabrizio[m]cerco di capire se matrix funziona con irc17:00
padanis it not possible to get grub to install the bootloader on a software raid5 device17:04
padan?17:04
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padanany way to get the ubuntu installer to give me a better error message than "an error occured"?17:05
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ArchaicLordTJ-: how do you remember all these things lol17:09
fearwaxhey, could i get some help with something17:10
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hippybearyes17:11
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Guest21170hello17:12
fearwaxok so I recently cleared out my hard drive with gparted, and I'm trying to install ubuntu 16 but every time i choose any of the options from the grub screen my computer just displays a black screen17:12
fearwaxi try booting from disk, black screen17:12
fearwaxtry installing, black screen17:12
TJ-ArchaicLord: lots of practice!17:13
TJ-ArchaicLord: also, to get exact syntax, "man mdadm" and *read* :)17:13
hippybearfearwax: idk, could be a graphics issue17:14
hippybearis this a newer laptop?17:14
fearwaxno it's a few years old17:14
opsJhello guys, when i watch youtube videos, my laptop lags too much. do you have any suggestions ?17:14
DJones!nomodeset | fearwax This might help,17:15
ubottufearwax This might help,: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter17:15
fearwaxive had it since 2013 i think?17:15
fearwaxoh i tried nomodeset17:15
fearwaxnot sure if i did it right tho17:15
hippybearidk for sure :(17:16
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fearwaxis there a way to have it boot from a command line so i can have it tell me the exact problem?17:16
ArchaicLord fair enough17:17
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TJ-fearwax: "nomodeset" added to the kernel command-line in the boot-loader would be the usual way, if the problem is caused by modesetting. Other issues can be having more than one display device connected (e.g. external monitor on a laptop)17:19
OerHeksOne can choose at the point try/install with F6 > nomodeset17:21
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fearwaxnomodeset isn't working17:30
v7+17:31
v7Hey ... how to install pepperflash on ubuntu ?17:31
v7I can't update it17:31
v7After executing this one: sudo update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --status17:32
v7It threw me this: Flash Player version installed on this system  :17:32
v7Flash Player version available on upstream site: 22.0.0.20917:32
v7So ... I guess that no pepper flash is installed ...17:32
hippybearv7: when you install google chrome pepperflash gets installed with it17:34
v7hippybear: If I want oto install chromiuim-browser ?17:34
hippybearchromium != Google Chrome17:34
v7roger ...17:34
v7hippybear: So ... I can't install normal Flash Player without Chrome ?17:35
v7That's really strange17:35
hippybearFlash player yes, pepperflash no17:35
v7I have flash player, but it's outdated17:35
hippybearflash is being outdated17:35
hippybearhtml5 has more support so people arent using it much17:36
v7Flash player is outdated, Peper Flash is updated ?17:36
hippybeardo you apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?17:36
v7Yeah17:36
hippybearso youre ok17:36
Mishariwhere do you where do you goooo.....17:36
Mishari..... my lovely.17:36
v7So .. the last question ...17:37
Misharithe last question is .... have a goon night17:37
Mishari:*17:37
Misharibye bye17:37
OerHeksone needs to do 2 commands to get pepperflash working17:37
OerHeks!flash17:37
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash17:37
v7I don't want to use Chrome ... how can I use Pepper Flash without Chrome ?17:37
hippybearlolwut17:37
OerHeksnot, pepperflash plugin installer downloads chrome LoLz17:37
v7Nope ... I've isntalled pepperflashplugin and no Chrome Browser is installed17:38
OerHeks( to rip the plugin )17:38
yommwhat's the status on the nvidia 304 driver on 16.04 & 16.10 ? None of the included drivers work. On 16.04 I can get a patched 304.131 driver to work (not on 16.10) and the 304.132 (even the newer ones on launchpad) don't work on both 16.04 & 16.10.17:39
ArchaicLordTJ-: Ok.. so raid 10 created http://paste.ubuntu.com/23466824/ ... so now I have to create a LVM on it then the lv and then the filesytem ?17:40
TJ-ArchaicLord: correct17:42
ioriaOerHeks, seems something has changed : https://launchpad.net/~skunk/+archive/ubuntu/pepper-flash17:44
OerHeksioria, great news, thnx!17:47
OerHeksno more 45 mb download17:47
ioriaOerHeks, yrwlc17:47
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hellslingerhi everyone, anyone here using a rx 4xx card with amdgpu driver? I'm curious how it's going, I'm thinking of getting one17:53
v7So ...17:54
v7I've installed Chrome17:54
v7Pepper is outdated17:54
freakyyhi all. i have ubuntu 16.10 and im connected to a screen over an ssh connection. now when there are links inside here, it shows them as unerlined but when i click them nothing happens - what can i do to make clicking urls open a browser?17:55
DiamondSwordhello.. I have many ethernet connections that I'm not used when I want to see the available connections. see the pic: http://imgur.com/E6zCMI317:58
DiamondSwordhow can I remove them on the list?17:58
red-blackhai17:58
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DiamondSwordI think that all happened after I install vmware player on Ubuntu..17:58
red-blackguys i how to hacking website with backbox???help me please.,.,. :)17:59
red-blackguys.,.,please..18:02
red-blackhelloo18:02
BluesKajred-black, wrong chat for that18:02
fn2...18:03
yomm...18:03
JuJUBeeWhy does the dropbox indicator give so much trouble?  If I use wifi, the indicator doesn't load/show since there is no internet connection until after I connect manually.18:14
SeventeenTIME HOSTNAME gnome-session[NUMBER]: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry....18:15
SeventeenTIME HOSTNAME gnome-keyring-daemon[NUMBER]: couldn't set environment variable in session: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files18:15
SeventeenTIME HOSTNAME lightdm: pam_unix(lightdm:session): session closed for user USER18:15
Seventeen^^^^^Anybody know where I should start with this crap?18:15
devsysHi all, I'm trying to add a secondary IP to my ubuntu server 16.04 but it won't come up. Is the syntax any different than it used to be in prior versions where you could do iface eth0:1 in /etc/network/interfaces?18:19
ssobhanhi can i boot my surface 3 pro from sd card18:19
ssobhan?18:19
Fohlenheya guys. I'd like to give a user on my system particular rights for a service, via # Add service remod permissions for alexander18:20
Fohlenalexander ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/service remod *18:20
Fohlenthe system is configured to be used passwordless via key-only authentication18:20
Fohlenanyhow this still asks alexander for a pass18:20
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serious-girlI have a computer with 3GB of memory. Unity starts out smooth but as I open a few tabs and have libreoffice open it becomes horribly slow18:23
serious-girlthis is not acceptable18:23
hippybearagreed18:26
duryserious-girl, still slow?18:28
serious-girlwhen i close the browser it returns to normal or if I close the music player or libreoffice18:28
serious-girli need to have something stable to work on in order to be productive18:29
duryserious-girl, why don't you change the  X window manager18:30
duryserious-girl, something light18:30
serious-girllike what ? and how do I do this?18:30
duryserious-girl, like LXDE, or mate desktop18:31
arunsHi.18:31
arunsDoes anyone know how I can quit the CLISP interpreter? I am running it on Ubuntu 16.04, and it is GNU CLISP 2.49.18:32
arunsI have invoked a session with the interpreter on the command line.18:32
duryserious-girl, do you know the terminal?18:32
arunsI typed in the supposed commands for quitting the interpreter from the CLISP online documentation, but none of the commands seem to work.18:33
serious-girlno i do not18:33
Fabrizio[m]aruns, If I remember right it should work if you type quit or exit18:33
arunsFabrizio[m]: I typed in both but it seems to output 'Break 1 [20]>'18:33
arunsAt the moment.18:34
tomreyn!terminal | serious-girl18:34
ubottuserious-girl: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. In Unity or GNOME, search the dash for "terminal" and press ENTER. Other desktops: Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal (MATE), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal18:34
arunsI even tried with the colons and those didn't seem to work either.18:34
duryserious-girl, right... so I got in your left side a bar, ok?18:34
arunstomreyn: Which terminal emulators do you recommend?18:34
arunstomreyn: At the moment I have Sakura and Terminator.18:35
duryserious-girl, sorry I mean you got in your left side a bar, ok?18:35
jattgnome-terminal18:35
Seveasterminator is awesome18:35
tomreynaruns: xfce4-terminal works for me.18:35
serious-girlI got it. This is looking very technical, like chinese manual18:35
arunsTrust me, Chinese is much more difficult.18:35
arunsxD18:35
Fabrizio[m]I don't know how can anyone live without a drop-down terminal18:35
arunsOh, I also have Tilda.18:35
arunsThat is awesome.18:36
Fabrizio[m]tilda is just god's gift to the world18:36
arunsWhat about for Mac?18:36
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arunsAs I have a Mac in the office.18:36
Fabrizio[m]anyway I'm sorry I don't think I can help you any further with your CLisp issue18:36
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arunsI've got iTerm2 on there.18:36
arunsFabrizio[m]: Ah that's OK, I will try and figure something out :P18:36
arunsIt's just.18:36
Guy1524hey guys, on my HP Envy 15 w/ Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS, I have a sticker on my laptop that reads NVIDIA GEFORCE, however in lshw, there is no sign of any discrete GPU, and no option in the bios to enable or disable a discrete GPU18:36
duryserious-girl, did you get terminal?18:36
Seveasaruns: hammer to the screen and get a real computer :)18:36
arunsSeveas: Macs aren't bad.18:36
arunsJust overpriced.18:36
tomreynserious-girl: take your time with it then. it's not that tough, though. you can install lubuntu desktop by typing this on a terminal: sudo apt update; sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop18:36
arunsAlthough mine's the 2010 MacBook Pro.18:37
arunstomreyn: Apt-get is just a wrapper for aptitude, isn't it?18:37
arunsI think apt outputs more than apt-get does18:37
duryserious-girl, follow tomreyn18:37
arunsIn terms of status messages and so on.18:37
tomreynaruns: no, its a separate application doing roughly the same thing18:37
Fabrizio[m]otherwise I guess the -get would have had a space18:38
Fabrizio[m]after the apt18:38
arunstomreyn: IIRC correctly, apt also has more colour display also18:38
TheDiveOMy 16.10 (K)ubuntu installation doesn't boot correctly anymore, hangs after several seconds into the boot, then drops into emergency mode.18:38
tomreynserious-girl: once you have it installed, all you need to do is logout of your graphical session, then, on the login prompt, choose lubuntu from settings / preferences,18:38
arunstomreyn: Is she running Ubuntu?18:39
arunstomreyn: As with Ubuntu, you have to click the icon.18:39
arunsOn the login screen.18:39
arunsTo change your desktop manager.18:39
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arunsUnless she's running Kubuntu, Lubuntu etc.18:39
arunsI'm not sure if it's different with those.18:39
tomreynaruns: possible, i don'T know what she's running right now.18:39
Fabrizio[m]even then it should be the same I think18:39
arunstomreyn: Maybe if I take a screenshot of my login screen and I could send it to her, maybe annotate it?18:40
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Fabrizio[m]every DE has a login screen which allows you to change the environment18:40
tomreynaruns: you could ask the person you're talking about18:40
arunstomreyn: I could lol :P18:40
iorianot if you use autologin18:40
jemahello18:40
tomreynTheDiveO: does it say why?18:41
tomreyn(i'm pretty sure it does)18:41
arunsFabrizio[m]: Ah, SO resolved my issue. It is (quit) in parentheses.18:42
Fabrizio[m]mmh18:42
arunsWhy they don't mention that in the official documentation is beyond me.18:42
arunsBut I rarely like official documentation for anything.18:42
ioriaaruns, http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/lcl50/ug/ug-17.html18:42
Fabrizio[m]I thought about it, but wasn't sure enough18:42
Fabrizio[m]it makes sense, considering the lisp language18:43
arunsioria: Yeah, I found it on Stack Overflow lol. Thanks, though.18:43
ioriaaruns, no prob18:43
arunsIt's like, I use PHP quite a lot, but I hate the official documentation.18:43
arunsThey don't make it easy to understand for those new to programming in general, and they don't give enough code examples.18:43
ioriawell, don't tell Stallman18:43
arunsOh, is Mr RMS a huge PHP proponent?18:44
aruns:P18:44
TheDiveOtomreyn: yes, of course: it fails on (re?) mounting my / and swap partitions with a timeout.18:44
soshickHi18:45
tomreynTheDiveO: did you make any changes which could have broken it?18:45
TJ-TheDiveO: have you tried booting it with an older kernel, from the boot menu > Advanced options, sub-menu?18:45
soshickhow come Ubuntu works much slower than Windows 7 at my laptop? Did I set something wrong?18:46
aroonii have ubuntu 16.04 on my t420 lenovo laptop.  apparently everytime i take the laptop to suspend; and then resume it seems to have a kernel panic (caps lock button flashing).  there are some updates i can install; but anything else i can do?18:46
TJ-soshick: it depends what aspect is slower. Accessing storage devices? drawing the screen? doing CPU intensive tasks?18:46
TheDiveOtomreyn: Yes, doesn't change anything, tried three or four of previous kernels. HDD otherwise seems to work correctly, gets mounted ro on boot and no issues. fscl18:46
jattarooni: install a newer kernel and check whether the issue is solved: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/18:47
TheDiveOtomreyn: fsck'd also without any apparent defects18:47
soshickTJ-:  even when I type an address on firefox. Some times words follows behind the keyboard..18:48
tomreynTheDiveO: my question was whether you made any changes which may have introduced this problem - since you seems to imply it worked fine before?18:48
tomreynlike, other than just installing ubuntu updates18:49
TJ-TheDiveO: if it times out looking for the root FS, that is during initial ramdisk execution (initrd.img). That suggests there could be missing kernel modules or tooling to support the device where the root FS resides. Is it encrypted? is it RAID? is it LVM? is it ext4, btrfs, zfs, etc?18:49
TheDiveOtomreyn: woken up system today, did usual update which required a reboot, so I rebooted. Shutdown hung already. Rebooted. Hang.18:49
TheDiveOtomreyn: unencrypted, no raid, no lvm, it's ext4 standard (K)Ubuntu install18:50
ioriaTheDiveO,  simply hangs or you get 'Welcome to Emergency Mode' or stuff ?18:50
Fabrizio[m]soshick: maybe you just need to update the graphic drivers18:50
TheDiveOhangs for 1 minute or so with boot screen animation, then drops into the "Welcome to Emergency Mode" stuff :(18:51
ioriaTheDiveO,  so maybe you can access from recovery ?18:52
TJ-TheDiveO: Try intercepting the boot manager again, edit the kernel command line and add "break=mountroot" and boot - that'll drop you to a shell in the initrd *just before* it tries to mount the root FS and you can check the device that hosts it is present18:52
aroonijatt: which kernel should i have?18:52
jattarooni: which kernel are you using now? (uname -a)18:52
arooniLinux LilArooni 4.4.0-47-generic #68-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 26 19:39:52 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux18:54
TheDiveOTJ-: okay, I'm now at the (initramfs) prompt18:54
aroonijatt: just ran the update + upgrade process; updated 150 packages or so;18:55
arooniand now it seems to resume foine18:55
arooniany reason not to enable unattended upgrades ?18:55
TheDiveOTJ-: df gives just /dev and /run yet18:55
jattarooni: I don't think so I have them activated and works fine18:56
TJ-TheDiveO: OK, do you know which device the root FS is on?18:56
TheDiveOioria: nope, doesn't help in that I can mount and continue boot, but then the AMD gfx won't be initialized correctly.18:57
TheDiveOTJ-: yes, sda218:57
soshickFabrizio[m]: how do I update the graphic drivers.. also the "hardinfo" is the good one to get info about harddrive?18:57
TJ-TheDiveO: try "ls /sys/block/" to see what devices are known right now. ignore all the ram* and so on, look for sd? mmc? and so on18:57
ioriaTheDiveO,  that's normal, when you resume from recovery18:57
TheDiveOTJ-: ls gives me sda being available18:58
TJ-TheDiveO: if /dev/sda exists then try "grep sda /proc/partitions" to ensure the kernel knows about the partitions18:58
TJ-TheDiveO: if we know sda2 is known, you sohuld be able to do an "fsck /dev/sda2" to prove its OK18:58
TheDiveOTJ-: that works too, seeing sda with partitions 1-318:58
TheDiveOTJ-: fsck gives clean18:59
TheDiveOTJ-: mount is by UUID, not device name18:59
TJ-TheDiveO: OK, so things are looking good. Now lets find out what the kernel has been told is the root FS: "cat /proc/cmdline" and look for the "root=..." parameter which will probably show a UUID ?19:00
soshickHow do I check if my graphic card driver is updated or not. Would "Hardinfo" report help? https://paste.ubuntu.com/23467188/19:01
TJ-TheDiveO: cannot recall if blkid is in initrd, if it is, you can do "blkid /dev/sda2" if not try "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/" to see if udev's view of sda2 matches the expected kernel UUID19:01
TheDiveOTJ-: yes, its ref'ing the root partition by UUID19:01
ioriacould a mismatch in the fstab uuids19:01
TJ-TheDiveO: if "root=..." and /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxx -> /dev/sda2 match then we can look further19:01
TheDiveOTJ-: blkid is present, gives me correct UUID (much fun as debugging IPv6 addresses)19:02
TJ-TheDiveO: as ioria suggested, now "cat /etc/fstab" check that also matches19:02
TJ-TheDiveO: these checks just confirm the disk labels haven't changed, which can otherwise catch you out big time in these situations19:03
TheDiveOTJ-: erm, no /etc/fstab here...?!19:03
TheDiveOTJ-: it's empty, 0 length19:03
ioriaTheDiveO,  ls /etc/ftsab19:04
ioriaTheDiveO,  ls /etc/fstab19:04
vijuHello19:04
TheDiveOTJ-: typo here, but my fingers automatically do fstab ;) but yes, my /etc/fstab is empty!19:05
vijuI don't see mate in the list of desktops, I am using  16 .0419:05
ioriaTheDiveO,  ok, but it exists ?19:05
MonkeyDustTheDiveO  have you installed mate?19:05
TJ-TheDiveO: that should be OK on a basic install because the running /init shell script gets the root device from the kernel command line via that root=... param19:05
vijuMonkeyDust: yes I installed mate19:05
ioriaTheDiveO,  you're not in recovery ?19:06
TheDiveOioria: I'm in (initramfs)19:06
ioriaTheDiveO,  oh19:06
TJ-TheDiveO: lets prove you can mount sda2. "mkdir -p /mnt/rootfs; mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/rootfs; ls -al /mnt/rootfs" and then if it is there, youn can explore19:08
vijuI followed this https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/mate-desktop-114-for-xenial-xerus/19:08
MonkeyDustviju  you cannot logout, switch, login? is mate listed in this file     /usr/share/xsessions19:08
vijuno19:09
vijuIt's not listed there19:09
TheDiveOTJ-: yes, this works (gives some ext2 ext3 warnings which should be useless me thinks)19:09
TJ-TheDiveO: that'll be the kernel ext4 driver likely, because it does fallback support for those19:10
radikhello19:10
TJ-TheDiveO: OK, so see what "cat /mnt/rootfs/etc/fstab" reports - is that properly populated?19:10
MonkeyDustviju  oh, you used a ppa? no need, simply type    sudo apt install mate19:10
vijuMonkeyDust: okay, how do I remove that ppa and all that is installed now?19:11
MonkeyDustviju  with ppa-purge (or purge-ppa, i forget)19:11
TheDiveOTJ-: looks sane, has to correct UUID for / and says mount as ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 119:12
MonkeyDust!ppa-purge | viju19:12
ubottuviju: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html19:12
TheDiveOTJ-: btw, did no BIOS upgrades, changes, or anything; in fact didn't touched that system part for more than a year now19:12
vijuMonkeyDust: fine and how do I remove the desktop, since it's not even usable to me now?19:12
vijuOkay does that remove the packages as well?19:13
TJ-TheDiveO: OK, so let's have a working hypothesis that the initrd side might be OK, and lets try rebooting with "init=/bin/bash" on the kernel command-line instead, which should start a bash shell rather than starting systemd's init daemon19:13
TJ-TheDiveO: if that works we've narrowed the issue down to systemd/init19:14
monolithHey19:14
rexwin_why can't I run visudo in my ubuntu system. sudo visudo runs perfectly. but in my other ubuntu system visudo runs perfectly?19:14
monolithI'm doing a cyber security competition in a vm19:14
monolithDon't worry, I'm not asking for help cheating19:15
monolithBut while editing the PAM files, I believe I made a typo19:15
MonkeyDustviju  after you removed the ppa, logout and press ctrl-alt-f1 ... then: sudo apt install mate19:15
monolithAnd consequently locked myself out of root19:15
vijuok19:15
monolithWhenever I try using root: sudo: PAM authentication error: Module is unknown19:16
monolithsudo: PAM authentication error: Module is unknown19:16
monolithcan't edit the file using startup media or something19:16
TJ-monolith: you'll need to reboot the VM in recovery mode to have a root shell to fix it, or else mount its file-system in your host and edit it that way19:16
vijuthat command is not found, MonkeyDust19:16
TheDiveOTJ-: done, am now in root shell19:16
monolithI tried using the drop shell19:16
MonkeyDustviju  what command?19:16
monolithJust remembered that the password is the root one, not user one19:17
monolithThat would be my issue19:17
monolithSorry for bothering you19:17
TJ-TheDiveO: That's promising! what does "cat /proc/mounts | grep '/ ' " show?19:17
TheDiveOTJ-: df gives / as /dev/sda2, clean19:17
TJ-TheDiveO: mounted rw, not ro ?19:17
TheDiveOTJ-: ups, its "ro", not "rw"!19:18
TJ-TheDiveO: OK, not a problem right now, that is eexpected19:18
vijuMonkeyDust: got it working, it's add-apt-repository --remove ppa:<path>19:18
TJ-TheDiveO: but now we know the problem is in the initrd, its something to do with systemd/init and it remounting the root fs19:19
TheDiveOTJ-: says /dev/sda2 / ext4 ro, relatime,data=ordered 0 019:19
hemlpeaseI have just updated my Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS to kernel 4.8.0.... ... are there any updates after that kernel or ?19:19
TJ-TheDiveO: but now we know the problem is NOT in the initrd - typo!19:19
TheDiveOTJ-: that was also my noob's suspection that there might be some systemd misham. And no, no systemd bashing here :)19:20
TJ-TheDiveO: so now you need to get systemd to output some debuig info. This could be painful since its debug output scrolls so fast and gets lost but it may pause when/if it has a problem, so reboot (again!) and add only "debug" to the kernel command-line19:21
TheDiveOTJ-: that's also the reason I'm asking for help here instead of just trying to switch to old device names19:21
TheDiveOTJ-: go ahead, how can I poke systemd?19:21
MonkeyDusthemlpease  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel19:22
TJ-TheDiveO: systemd has a neat facility whereby it creates block device service files at boot using 'generators'; I've had those go wrong on me at times so its possible you've been caught by something similar19:22
MonkeyDusthemlpease  nvm, that page hasnt been updated since january 201519:23
soshickPlease can some one tell me if my graphic card driver is fine with current instalation http://prnt.sc/d6fzk219:23
TJ-TheDiveO: so reboot with "debug" on the kernel command-line, see if you can read any important clues if/when the debug text output stops. You may need to hit the escape key to see the text messages if you usualyl have a graphical splash screen at boot19:23
TheDiveOTJ-: now waiting for dev-sda3.device19:24
TJ-TheDiveO: Hmmm? "sda3" - what is that partition used for?19:24
hemlpeaseok..19:24
TheDiveOTJ-: no, but it's also waiting for the UUID of my sda2 to mount.19:24
hemlpeaseI've found the 4.8.2 .. kernel19:25
TJ-TheDiveO: is "mount" included in the message?19:25
hemlpeasequestion.. once I update to that kernel will I get automatic updates for said kernel or do I have to then get them myself.19:25
TheDiveOTJ-: now says that it has timed out for /dev/disk/by\x2duuid....19:25
ioria respectfully i insist fot uiids mismatch19:25
TJ-TheDiveO: right, this does feel like the situation I encountered some time ago. which ubuntu release is it?19:25
TheDiveOTJ-: no mount messages to be seen anywhere; it's Kubuntu 16.10 with today's updates installed from official repos19:26
TJ-TheDiveO: let me see if I can find the bug report for the issues I saw19:27
TheDiveOTJ-: last OK before waiting was Started Initial check file system quotas19:27
ioriaTheDiveO,  i got you wrong, or you said you can boot  , resuming from Recovery  (apart from the video driver issue) ?19:30
TheDiveOioria: I can boot from recovery, but then I can't bring up the gfx card correctly, which is a big fail for me as this is my video editing and rendering station... :(19:31
HfjdindvnfhI heard Ubuntu offer apprenticeships in London. is this true?19:31
ioriaTheDiveO,  ok, but you get a gui desktop ?19:31
TheDiveOyes, but the display is low resolution while X11 thinks it has still the correct 2560x1440 resolution; so I'm seeing only part of my desktop19:32
maria_oHi.19:33
HfjdindvnfhHello19:33
maria_oHow do i make sure that my graphic card's driver installed right? /right driver..19:33
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ioriaTheDiveO,  can you open a console when you are in gui env ?19:33
TheDiveOioria: let me see ... it's booting into recov at the moment19:35
TJ_Remixwhat a time to lose connection!19:35
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TJ-TheDiveO: read my comment #11 about the systemd generators in bug #141001219:35
ubottubug 1410012 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Does not detect hotplugged storage device" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141001219:35
TheDiveOTJ-: so what information do you need?19:38
ioriaTheDiveO,  are you in console ?19:39
TheDiveOTJ-: I'm now in recovery mode in root shell19:39
TJ-TheDiveO: in "/var/run/systemd/generator/" are a bunch of targets, there will 1 or more ending in ".wants", and in those directories symlinks to systemd services required to make the parent device/UUID available. Check the UUID of your root FS is there and has appropriate services required to make sda2 avaialable19:39
TJ-TheDiveO: I'm going to have to leave off for now, got Pizza to make :)19:40
rexwin_why can't I run visudo in my ubuntu system. sudo visudo runs perfectly. but in my other ubuntu system visudo runs perfectly?19:40
TheDiveOTJ:19:41
ArchaicLordhey.. I am creating LVM.. i created the lvm group and now creatring the  logical volumes.. do i just create each one and specify a size or do I need to do something with physical extents instead19:41
TheDiveOTJ-: there are no UUIDs here...19:42
TheDiveOioria: okay, now have a terminal while in Plasma session19:44
ioriaTheDiveO,  terminal or you opened a console with ctrl+alt+fX ?19:44
TheDiveOioria: whatever you want me to use, both of them open19:45
ioriaTheDiveO,  terminal is good19:45
bootproblemshi guys19:45
ioriaTheDiveO,  sudo blkid |nc termbin.com 999919:45
TheDiveOioria: termbin.com/qkt919:46
ioriaTheDiveO,  cat /etc/fstab |nc termbin.com 999919:47
TheDiveOioria: g9rm19:47
TheDiveOioria: btw, am on kernel 4.8.0-27-generic x86_6419:49
bootproblemsi have an ssd with win7 installed. I tried to install ubuntu on the same drive as a dual boot option. Now I cannot select OS in boot and it auto boots to ubuntu19:49
bootproblemsI have tried boot-repair and using unetbootin to crease a bootable usb with the win7 iso on it....no luck19:49
ioriaTheDiveO,  yes, the kern is ok19:50
bootproblemsi also went through some forum threads but also no solution....like i tried to load the iso onto usb with dd but the usb would not boot19:50
bootproblemscan anyone assist? I have a pastebin of the boot-repair created file19:51
ioriaTheDiveO,  yes, uuids are correct19:52
ArchaicLorddoes xfs file system play nice with mac?19:55
TheDiveOioria: my /var/run/systemd/generator has a "-.mount" ... is this correct?19:56
TheDiveOioria: ah, looking inside, its my / by correct UUID19:57
ioriaTheDiveO,  yes, it is19:58
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TheDiveOioria: is there a way to correctly bring up my gfx card from recovery? So I can work at least with my video station, as I have some video editing work waiting...? :(19:59
ioriaTheDiveO,  paste xrandr19:59
ioriaTheDiveO,   xrandr |nc termbin.com 999920:01
TheDiveOioria: nij1 ... fallen back to 1024x768, so not full 2560x1440 as I wrote previously20:01
ioriaTheDiveO,   when you resume from Recovery, the video driver won't be loaded (it's like nomodeset)20:03
ioriaTheDiveO,  another try ....  ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/  |nc termbin.com 999920:04
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TheDiveOioria: 8nh520:05
TheDiveOioria: (this is from recovery, not from initramfs)20:06
ioriaTheDiveO,  idk,  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade20:09
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_Sym_Does anyone have a problem with nautilus in 16.04 when deleting files with the delete key?  Most of the time it works, but sometimes it totally locks up nautilus when I delete files with the delete key on the keyboard.  Right clicking on files and deleting from the menu is fine.  The problem is only with the physical delete key.20:11
maria_oHi... how can I make sure that my Graphic Card's driver installed fine?20:13
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TheDiveOioria: still waiting for desktop, but booting recovery with gfxpayload=keep gives me full gfx20:14
ioriaTheDiveO,  that's good, but  something available in apt full-upgrade ?20:14
jatt_Sym_: works for me on 16.10 files get moved to the trash on delete key press20:15
TheDiveOioria: did apt update and full-upgrade; gives me 0 updates etc.20:15
swebi use preseed for automatic installation but it's freez on select language on startup20:15
swebubuntu 16.0420:15
TheDiveOioria: nothing in full-upgrade20:16
maria_odid anyone even saw me :p20:16
ioriaTheDiveO,  cat /var/log/boot.log  |nc termbin.com 999920:16
TheDiveOioria: at least I can now work with Kdenlive and edit my video stuff for daytime work :) With that booting sequence I feel like back in those mainframe days when I had to do a dance to bring up a Siemens 7530 BS 2000 system in a multi-staged boot20:17
ioriaTheDiveO,  hehehe20:18
ioriaTheDiveO,  maybe a bug, like TJ- said20:18
ioriaTheDiveO,  cat /var/log/boot.log  |nc termbin.com 999920:19
TheDiveOioria: looks very much like one to me too, as I wasn't fooling around with my system BIOS, drive partions, or something like that.20:20
ioriaTheDiveO,  i see20:20
TheDiveOioria: oczo20:20
ioriaTheDiveO,  it's really like that ?20:21
TheDiveOioria: yes!20:21
neo_hi20:21
ioriaTheDiveO, you see all that garbage ?20:21
neo_how are you20:22
TheDiveOioria: oh, are you refering to the console codes? When viewed on a console, the output looks pretty20:22
ioriaTheDiveO, oh, ok ... i was thinking to a drive (disk) issue20:22
TheDiveOioria: :) I already had forced a package refresh before I came here just to be sure that there's no sector corruption not caused by the drive but maybe by RAM or someplace inbetween20:24
ioriaTheDiveO, right20:24
ioriaTheDiveO, Dependency failed for /dev/disk/by-uuid/da7561d4-12a7-4cb4-82ee-0e4932e49678.  and stuff20:25
neo_help me into mainframe20:25
ioriaTheDiveO,  systemd issue20:25
TheDiveOioria: but UUIDs look fine to me, tried to crosscheck them several times (urg, as bad as chasing IPv6 addresses!)20:25
ioriaTheDiveO,  a bunch of dependency failed20:25
ioriaTheDiveO,  yeah20:26
v7How to update Google Chrome's Peppe Plugin ?20:26
TheDiveOioria: well, that's fallout after mounting isses, right?20:26
ioriaTheDiveO,  mmm20:26
TheDiveOioria: what I really find strange that we have "-" and we have "\x2d" over and over again; but then, a google search turned up many situations where this seems to be fine20:27
ioriaTheDiveO,  Timed out waiting for device dev-disk-by\x2duuid-2359\x2dD0EC.device , it's not fine i guess20:28
ioriaTheDiveO,  it's your efi partition20:29
v7How to update Google Chrome's Peppe Plugin ?20:29
ioriaTheDiveO,  are you booting in legacy mode, by any chances ?20:29
OerHeksv7, not?20:29
v7OerHeks: ?20:30
OerHekspepperflash plugin is ripped from chrome.20:30
maria_owhich is the most used irc client for ubuntu?20:30
TheDiveOioria: am unsure at this time as I once set the BIOS and then never touched again for over a year, or even two years now. Let me restart and check...20:30
ioriaTheDiveO,  ok20:30
v7OerHeks: uh ... crap ... how to use this awful Flash Player or Peppe plugin in Linux if I want to use smth. which uses it ?!!?!?!?\20:31
v7I have to use some web app which uses updated version ...20:31
OerHeksv7, if that *smth* asks for an update, ignore it or question that site20:31
OerHeksor that app20:32
v7coub.com20:32
maria_oOerHeks: Would you please tell me the most used irc client for ubuntu...20:32
maria_owith a user interface..20:32
v7OerHeks: weechat or hexchat20:32
v7The best I think20:32
v7I use weechat20:32
ioriaBashing-om, Emergency mode issue ... you know some ?20:34
OerHeksmaria_o, i have no numbers20:34
TheDiveOioria: I've checked and to be safe switched everything to UEFI, but still no luck, hangs again in mount and times out20:34
maria_oOerHeks:  which one do you use?20:34
Bashing-omioria: Background ? .. Yeah I am aware of a few ways to boot up a ailing system .20:35
ioriaTheDiveO,  all, started after and upgrade ... and before was fine ?20:35
freakyyBashing-om: U there20:35
TheDiveOioria: yes, after today's upgrade which forced a reboot20:35
ioriaBashing-om, http://termbin.com/oczo   a bunch of fails to mount the partitions20:36
Bashing-omfreakyy: I am in the process of getting there, yeah .20:36
TheDiveOioria: but maybe the issue came with an earlier upgrade that did not force a reboot...?20:36
freakyyIm having the same problem as yesterdaY again20:36
ioriaTheDiveO,  the only updates that force a reboot, are kernel upgrade .... try an older kernel from grub20:37
freakyyBashing-om: the nvidia card x not starting20:37
ioriaTheDiveO,  but i guess you already did that20:37
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TheDiveOioria: already tried the previous kernel and it has the same problem. Older kernels are very old, should already have been removed, are a few minors older20:38
maria_oolost connecttion with the other20:38
ioriaTheDiveO,  very old... like what ? what you had on that system previously ?20:39
Bashing-omioria: " Dependency failed for Swap Partition." .. Boot a liveUSB and verify the UUIDs and fstab ??20:40
ioriaBashing-om, already done :(20:40
ioriaBashing-om, they are correct20:40
ioriaTheDiveO,  or is a fresh install of 16.10 ?20:41
p0whi, looking for some help with vlc and getting dynamic range compression / volume normalizing to work20:41
TheDiveOioria: for some reason there are still 3.19.0 images there; some leftover, probably on the boot partition? I've reinstalled 16.04LTS clean, but without wiping my root, as I wanted to preserve my HOME to speed up things20:41
p0wany input would be nice .. been looking for a while somehow it just doenst work20:41
ioriaTheDiveO,  3.19 is vivid 15.0420:41
Bashing-omioria: Not real handy with systemd .. but see about booting to terminal from grub ? //20:42
TheDiveOioria: it's *fresh* 16.04LTS, then normal upgrade to 16.10 several weeks ago. Went smooth, no issues.20:42
ioriaBashing-om, he can boot (with some video issues) form recovery and resume ....20:42
Bashing-omfreakyy: What says ' sudo lshw -C display abput the card and drivr ?20:42
TheDiveOioria: yeah, old junk on /boot/, have to clean it some day.20:43
freakyyBashing-om: I can't use any terminal it keeps going on and off and non terminal is available20:43
crobot_how do I install hexchat for my ubuntu via terminal?20:43
Seveascrobot_: sudo apt install hexchat20:44
freakyyI just did apt remove purge the driver reinstalled but it doesn't work20:44
Bashing-omioria: In my mind points to a X layer issue .. what results in staring the GUI from terminal ? We get any hints in terminal ?20:44
freakyyIt says starting nvidia persistance. Daemon but then nothing anynor20:44
TheDiveOBashing-om: can boot into recovers using modified kernel cmd "gfxpayload=keep", then mount using check fs, then resume boot, and at least get to use my video editing workstation back to some working state...20:45
ioriaTheDiveO, he can get a gui .... but only from resume20:45
Bashing-omfreakyy: Remind me again. what release is this ?20:45
freakyy1620:45
freakyy1020:45
freakyy16.1020:45
ioriaBashing-om, he can get a gui, but only from resume20:45
ioriaBashing-om, i mean, i can access desktop, but only from resume20:46
Bashing-omioria: Humm .. that indicates a graphic's driver issue ... as in "recovery" the fall back driver is in use, no ?20:46
ioriaBashing-om, yeah, but the logs say 'mount problem' .... (confused)20:47
TheDiveOBashing-om: no, no, gfx is not the issue; systemd may be, as normal boot hangs due to / and swap mount timeout.20:47
freakyyBashing-om: I'll now try purging the driver and then do an auto remove then install it again20:47
ioriaTheDiveO, i'm temped to suggest you a fresh install ... sorry20:48
TheDiveOBashing-om: gfx is only because I need to do some daywork on this system, editing video with Kdenlive, so I asked for some workaround to get gfx from recovery.20:48
Bashing-omTheDiveO: ioria : ' wapon --summary ' tells us what ?20:48
TheDiveOioria: thought about that too, but not with three work projects pending at this time20:48
ioriaTheDiveO, yeah, try to comment out swap in fstab ... see what happens20:49
freakyyCan I do that In recovery mode and the system installs dkm for right kernel20:49
ioriaBashing-om, nice shot20:49
ioriaTheDiveO, comment , not comment out20:49
ioriaTheDiveO,  put a # in front of the swap line20:50
TheDiveOioria: can try, but the log says that *all* mounts fail for /, swap, and UEFI/boot partitions.20:50
ioriaTheDiveO,  i know20:50
Bashing-omTheDiveO: ioria make that swapon --summary . ouch misded that s !20:50
ioriaTheDiveO,  run   swapon --summary20:51
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freakyyBashing-om: I'20:51
Guest95016Hi guys20:51
TheDiveOBashing-om: /dev/sda3 partition 16729084 0 -120:51
freakyyIt didn'twork20:51
ioriaTheDiveO,  it's ok20:51
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ioriaTheDiveO,  it's really big20:52
TheDiveOioria: that's on the recovery-booted system20:52
ioriaTheDiveO,  maybe too much20:52
Bashing-omTheDiveO: And try from the recovery mode ' mount -o remount,rw / (Note there is no space after the comma.) ; systemctl isolate graphical.target ' be aware - That does much more than just start the GUI, it also stops everything that is not a dependancy of graphical.target.20:52
TheDiveOioria: why? it's a 16G RAM machine20:52
ioriaTheDiveO,  you really need 16G swap ?20:53
crobot_Seveas: thanks20:53
TheDiveOioria: no, I probably don't need swap at all, as render jobs run completely in RAM, otherwise...20:53
ioriaTheDiveO,  let's try to comment it20:54
ArchaicLordTJ-: wow finnally completed it20:55
peeps[lappy]is there any cpu stress test utility that would be included on a live cd?20:56
laclinuxyes20:56
peeps[lappy]or, alternatively how can I turn all fans on max to see how loud a computer can get20:56
ArchaicLordTJ-: ty for the help... so create raid1+0 array with LVM and LV shares... the share now auto mount on start up and shared in Samba which i can see in Windows20:56
ArchaicLordwell happy20:56
laclinuxpeeps[lappy]  there is20:57
Bashing-omfreakyy: What can you boot to ? terminal ?20:57
TheDiveOioria: Bashing-om: rebooted with swap commented in fstab, but not any better, still timing out on mount20:57
peeps[lappy]laclinux, great, can you tell me what its called?20:57
ioriaTheDiveO,  ok20:57
laclinuxpeeps[lappy] is called Blowfish20:58
laclinuxit will test the cpu20:58
Bashing-omTheDiveO: What does the kernel show as mounted ' cat /proc/mounts ' ?20:58
freakyyBashing-om: well I was able to type the command now output Is http://paste.ubuntu.com/23467660/20:58
TheDiveOBashing-om: in emergency shell before or after remount?20:59
freakyyBashing-om: it also says nvidia per distanced failed with result signal21:00
Bashing-omfreakyy: That days you have a driver .. but which ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ? lets see what all is intalled ( driver conflict ?) .21:00
harry_hi21:01
Bashing-omTheDiveO: After the remount command . I do expect a GUI to start and thus able to do your work   If ya need other services yoy will have to enable and start them manually .21:01
freakyyHttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23467669/21:02
ioriaBashing-om, he can boot to a gui ....21:02
freakyyBashing-om:21:02
TheDiveOBashing-om: remount works, but isolate does not help, as the system again hangs somewhere waiting for something, no GUI, nothing21:02
ioriaBashing-om,  but only from Resume ...21:03
Bashing-omfreakyy: Humm , looks good ... can you start the GUI from the guest account ?21:03
TheDiveOBashing-om: erm, I'm now in *emergency mode*, not recovery.21:03
freakyyBashing-om: no gdm doesn't start at all21:04
freakyyThe system won't run any gui21:04
Bashing-omfreakyy: Rgen we look and see what X thinks . Pastebin ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' .21:05
ArchaicLordhmm ok new problem.. share on windows has not got permissions21:06
freakyyHttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23467691/21:07
freakyyBashing-om:21:07
crobot_so strange... quassel irc has no information about how to uninstalling..21:08
izznoDoes anyone have any experience dualbooting 16.04 and 16.10? I tried installing the new 17.04 daily and that went wrong as it did not add my 16.04 to grub...21:08
ioriaTheDiveO,  last try for me;  fsck.mode=skip  as kernel boot param21:08
Bashing-omTheDiveO: Let's bavk up and regroup . What do we see if you boot to terminal from the grub boot menu ? 'e' key for edit mose -> on the line starting with linux replace quiet splash and all after with the term systemd.unit=multi-user.target . Key combo ctl+x to continue to TTY1 .21:09
Ice_Strike have NFS mount in fstab - if nfs server is down, how to setup auto retry?21:09
ioriaTheDiveO,  or red this https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=21354821:10
ioria*read21:10
maria_oplease can some one help me to find out how to uninstall the quassel irc21:11
ArchaicLordno worrie i solved it21:12
TheDiveOioria: skip doesn't help; just rebooting again21:12
TheDiveOBashing-om: okay, got TTY121:13
TheDiveOBashing-om: logged in21:13
ioriaTheDiveO,  good luck,   Thanks Bashing-om21:13
TheDiveOBashing-om: /proc/mounts has / aka sda2 properly mounted, says rw21:14
p0wsudo apt-get remove --auto-remove quassel-core21:14
p0wsudo apt-get purge quassel-core21:15
freakyyBashing-om: ok i tried reinstalling the driver one more time but still didn't help21:16
p0wthat should do it21:16
p0wmaria_o21:17
maria_op0w, Package 'quassel-core' is not installed, so not removed21:17
Bashing-omfreakyy: Hummm " (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Deleting GPU-0 >> (WW) xf86CloseConsole: KDSETMODE failed: Input/output error " ... run a file system check ??21:18
EriC^^hey Bashing-om21:19
EriC^^how did the bios chip go my friend?21:19
maria_ohow do I see the urlsnarf interface on ubuntu?21:20
EriC^^oops wrong channel21:21
freakyyBashing-om: hm can failed to register client the name org. Gnome.sessionmanager was not provided by any. Service files21:21
freakyyBe the reason21:21
freakyyI'll do a file system check21:22
TheDiveOBashing-om: thank you for trying to help! I was always neutral to systemd, but now I'm counting systemd as a failed project.21:23
freakyyHow to do a file system check21:23
freakyyOk found out21:25
freakyyScanning file system now21:25
Bashing-omfreakyy: easiest way is from grub, add the boot parameter ' fsck.mode=force ' .21:26
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Bashing-omTheSpiochu: I too am not real happy with systemd, nor am I comfortable with systemd. it is different and I have a lot to learn .21:28
freakyyBashing-om: it doesn't work21:29
freakyyI tried booting into rescue mode and then select fsck from the menu but it mounted all hdds21:30
Bashing-omfreakyy: "it doesn't work" tells us nada .. what is "it" ? .. and did you do, what happened ? what did you expect to happen that did not happen ?21:31
freakyyBashing-om: how do I add a boot argument21:32
freakyyParameter21:33
Bashing-omfreakyy: At the grub mneu 'e' key for edit mode -> boot parameters screen . look for the line starting with linux and add fsck.mode=force in place of quiet splash ( is what I suggest ) . ctl+x to continue .21:35
freakyyOk The Filesystem doesn't seem to have any bad blocks or anything21:37
freakyyIs there anything else what could be the reason21:37
freakyyIts an ssd21:37
freakyyBashing-om:21:38
Bashing-omfreakyy: Ya got me .. I do hope the fact that it is a SSD does not enter in here .. a drive should be a drive, should be a drive . BUT SSDs have error checking built in ! .21:41
freakyyOk21:42
freakyySo do u have any other idea21:42
freakyyWhat could be causing the problem21:42
freakyyElse I will have to reinstall21:43
freakyyBut I don't have an usb drive yet21:43
freakyyStick21:43
freakyyBashing-om:21:44
freakyyHm ok I think I can't fix it so ill wait until i get my usb stick back21:46
freakyyThank you very much for your help Bashing-om21:47
apb1963anyone know how to install giplet?  16.0421:48
Bashing-omfreakyy: Well, we can look at the GUI log file, see if there are any hints pastenin ' .xsession-errors ' .21:48
Bashing-om!info giplet xenial21:49
ubottuPackage giplet does not exist in xenial21:49
Bashing-omapb1963: ^ your source for giplet ?21:50
apb1963ok...  so lets change the question to.... how can I display my real IP address on my desktop?21:50
ikoniawhatsmyip.com21:50
freakyyBashing-om: oknwait21:50
apb1963no that requires a browswer21:51
deezedhello guys! do you know anything about ktorrent? I mean, if there is any problem with it? Because all of suden mine has stopped working properly. It doesn't download any faster than 2kbps nor upload anything. Can you help me?21:51
apb1963I want a widget of some sort21:51
ikoniaapb1963: then write an applet that queries it21:51
ikoniaits an open api21:51
apb1963no... I've had something before... but it's no longer working.  I can't remember what it's called or even if it was this horrid default interface or KDE.21:52
ikoniahow can it be no longer working if you don't even know what it is21:52
ikoniathat seems an odd statement to make21:52
freakyyBashing-om: hm I don't have such a file in my home dir21:52
Bashing-omapb1963: ' ip route list ' ?21:53
freakyyOmg Bashing-om I installed the package xserver-xorg-legacy and now it works21:54
freakyyWhat does that package do21:54
Bashing-omfreakyy: That blows me away that .xsession-errors file does not exist in your /home .21:54
apb1963really?  you don't understand how the IP address could display on my panel one day, and no longer display and I don't remember what the applet is called?21:55
_Sym_Does anyone have a problem with nautilus in 16.04 when deleting files with the delete key?  Most of the time it works, but sometimes it totally locks up nautilus when I delete files with the delete key on the keyboard.  Right clicking on files and deleting from the menu is fine.  The problem is only with the physical delete key.21:55
ikoniaapb1963: I do understand that it's not working, but you must see how saying "I don't even know what it is" but then state "it's not working"21:56
Bashing-omfreakyy: Wow !  . I have never seen xserver-xorg-legacy . What does the command ' apt show xserver-xorg-legacy ' relate ?21:56
apb1963Bashing-om, ip route list only displays local private addresses... not my WAN address.. and it's not an applet or widget, etc.21:56
ikoniaapb1963: tools like network-manager will manipulate and display your ip, however if you want something different to that, you'll need to be specific in the ap name21:56
ikoniait would be simple to just check it in a browser though21:57
apb1963ikonia, I didn't say I don't know what it is... although whether it's a widget or a gadget or a doohickey that I don't know...I said I dn't remember what it's called.  You can verify this in your history.21:57
tigefaask: display gnome monitor in desktop?21:58
apb1963giplet is apparently what is supposed to work for Gnome... whether Gnome and unity have any relationship that I don't know for sure but presume so.21:58
ikoniaapb1963: right, so you don't know if it's an applet or a widget and you don't know what it's called, that means you don't know what it is21:58
ikoniaapb1963: you have zero info on it other than "I've used it before"21:58
apb1963yes, that is correct.21:59
ikoniaapb1963: so "you don't know what it is" then21:59
freakyyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23467875/21:59
ikoniaapb1963: unity uses a lot of gnome libraries so I'd be surprised if it didn't work on unity, although it's not impossible it won't21:59
freakyyBashing-om:21:59
ikonia(whatever "it" is)21:59
apb1963Q1: How can I install giplet?  A: It doesn't exist in xenial.  Q2: How can I display my IP on my desktop?  A2: NObody knows.22:00
freakyyit was installed by another driver  Bashing-om and ...a fter i removed it ... and then today did apt autoremove ... it was removed again since t hen it didnt work anymore22:00
ikoniaapb1963: a.) you'll need to build a package or install routine if one doesn't exist for your version a2.) use a browser, write an applet, curl the whatsmyip,22:00
apb1963Those were my questions and the answered received so far.22:00
apb1963s/ed/s22:01
gebbionehi, anyone has an idea of what might have caused this? Xfce notify deamon Unable to start notification deamon -> http://pasteboard.co/qulfWabSU.png22:01
apb1963thanks... i'll ask again later to see if anyone knows of an applet that works on unity which I guess is what I have.22:02
Bashing-omfreakyy: Well .. " which is necessary for legacy drivers and non-Linux kernels.22:02
ikoniaapb1963: I'd start searching the gnome applet list22:02
ikoniaapb1963: they "should" work22:02
freakyywell yes it sounds strange but since i installed it it works22:02
apb1963where is that found?22:02
ikoniathat would be a logical starting point22:02
Bashing-omfreakyy: seems not a good thing to do to me .22:02
ikoniagebbione: look at that file location, see if it exists and the permissions on it22:03
freakyyhm =/22:03
ikoniaapb1963: official ones will be on gnome.org somewhere probably.22:03
freakyyi guess ill just reinstall the whole system22:03
freakyysoon22:03
freakyythanks for your help :D22:03
apb1963ok thank you, much appreciated22:03
WWWOOOWWWguys, i can not copy/paste in remmina !! :( anyone can help me solve this pleassseee ?22:04
gebbioneikonia, the file does not exist22:04
ikoniagebbione: so that will be the problem,22:04
gebbionewell that is not the cause ... it is a consequence. I mean why the process would not be able to write the file in the first place22:05
gebbioneanyway i ll do another update/restart22:05
ikoniagebbione: no, that is the problem22:06
ikoniathe file is not there - that is the problem22:06
Bashing-omfreakyy: Sometimes a fresh install is a good thing ... and this time keep a changelog of all changes you make to the system .22:06
ikoniagebbione: why the file is not there is a different question, what is the permissions, what does the log say22:06
freakyyBashing-om:  will do thank you :D22:07
freakyyill switch pcs now ... going to my laptop and use ubuntu-gnome there ;D22:07
freakyyi love ubuntu gnome ;D22:07
apb1963ikonia, there are no applets on that site; I'm going to wait until I can install a better DE.  Thanks anyway22:07
Bashing-omfreakyy: All I have done is hold your hand . You done all the work :)22:07
gebbioneikonia, i dont see any deamon related logs in Xorg.0.log22:08
ikoniaapb1963: https://extensions.gnome.org22:09
zacktuMy upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 has a problem.  apt-get update works completely now, but apt-get upgrade has lots of error messages about tex/latex.  Is there a root of all this so I can remove or purge something to do with tex and solve this problem?22:09
ikoniaapb1963: it looks like unity should support a fair chunk of them22:09
ikoniaapb1963: ahh wait, no it doesn't, only earlier versions that where using more of gnome did, ignore that22:10
Bashing-omzacktu: I expect similar to MySQL 5.7 in the upgrade: see the release notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes . You may have to re-configure the data base .22:14
Seveaszacktu: tex-commmon and texlive-base22:16
freakyyBashing-om:  ^^ ... on my laptop now. sadly it has an ati graphics card which isnt supported by 16.10 anymore :(22:17
freakyynow i have to use the open source graphics driver but it doesnt support fglrx/opengl22:18
zacktuthanks Bashing-om and Seveas.22:19
RinzlerHi22:21
Rinzler I need help on configuring /etc/network/interfaces for creating a monitor interface summonable by the gui. Any tip?22:21
Bashing-omfreakyy: That is a fact in ATI .. they have thrown full support for open source - we have been screamming for years . and AMD has complied !. What you have in the kernel is what you have . Now the latest cards support the XXX-pro driver ( still built on open source ) .22:22
maxysparkI am new to ubuntu. Is there any command line converter to convert m4a to mp3?22:22
Sophie_Hello, any ubuntu guru ?22:22
Seveasmaxyspark: ffmpeg is my goto tool for that22:23
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freakyyXXX-pro driver? i have an ATI Radeon HD 7500M22:23
freakyyits older maybe 3-4 years old22:23
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maxysparkthanx seveas! :)22:24
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CluI need help on configuring /etc/network/interfaces for creating a monitor interface summonable by the gui. Any tip?22:25
Bashing-omfreakyy:  https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Amdgpu .. olmy the latest cards have AMDGPU-PRO support .22:26
SeveasClu: what do you mean with a 'monitor interface' and with 'summonable by the gui'?22:27
maxysparkhow can i run a shell script on startup automatically?22:29
Seveasmaxyspark: depends on what it does. Either create a systemd unit for it or add it to your desktop startup things.22:29
maxysparkto run a localhost server22:30
Seveassystemd unit it is. That way you can also start/stop/restart it at will and get all the other systemd goodness22:31
zykotick9maxyspark: you might also want to check /etc/rc.local <- for an "easy" way to run a script at bootup...22:32
CluSeveas: That I can enable it by network-manager.22:33
Seveass/"easy"/bad and obsolete, especially for services/22:33
SeveasClu: NetworkManager ignores interfaces defined in /etc/network/interfaces22:33
zykotick9Seveas: i must 1/2 agree with you ;)22:34
freakyy01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Thames [Radeon HD 7550M/7570M/7650M]22:34
freakyy01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Thames [Radeon HD 7550M/7570M/7650M]22:34
freakyy01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Thames [Radeon HD 7550M/7570M/7650M]22:34
CluSeveas: Then how can I start an interface setted in monitor mode with network manager at every boot?22:35
freakyysorry!22:35
freakyyi scroleld up and couldnt see i pasted22:35
freakyyBashing-om: hm, looks like my card isnt supported22:35
freakyythat's a pitty22:35
SeveasClu: good questions. Can't find a way to do it in the gui22:35
CluSeveas: There are some settings files in network-manager?22:36
SeveasClu: /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections, but they are not meant to be edited by hand, use nmcli or the gui.22:36
Seveasunfortunately, I don't see a way in either (just checked nmcli) to enforce monitor mode. You could do a pre-up script that does it.22:37
TJ-Clu: Seveas NM can be configured *not* to ignore interfaces from 'interfaces' as well22:38
SeveasI think you need to tell us more22:38
TJ-Clu: Seveas "man 5 NetworkManager.conf" and see the IFUPDOWN section, managed=true22:40
Seveasyeah, just got to there22:40
Seveasinteresting22:40
SeveasI'd still avoid doing that though, combining the two just smells like trouble22:41
freakyygood night all ;D also Bashing-om :)22:41
exoalexandermy wifi sucks22:42
TJ-Clu: Seveas I seem to recall it is possible - via nmtui-edit - to support monitor mode natively too22:42
maxysparkhei how can I reply to someone here or mention him!22:42
exoalexanderanyway how do i report a bug for Ubuntu 17.04 64-bit22:43
SeveasTJ-: not seeing it there, or in nmcli22:44
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TJ-Seveas: no, i think it's via one of the options described in "man 5 nm-settings", under the 802-11-wireless "mode" setting, although it only describes "infrastructure", "adhoc" and "ap"22:49
Seveasthat's an entirely different thing22:50
Bashing-om!tab | maxyspark22:51
ubottumaxyspark: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.22:51
TJ-Seveas: it's the equivalent of iwconfig's mode option, which includes Monitor mode alongside AdHoc, Managed etc22:52
_Sym_Anyone here running the latest LTS with a Skylake cpu and intel board?  I have to manually set mtrr_gran_size and mtrr_chunk_size on my grub boot line and I can not use the intel_iommu unless I disable the intel_iommu for the built-in intel graphics card.22:53
_Sym_Its like the mtrr does not see the correct amount of RAM on my laptop22:54
maxysparkubottu: thanx22:54
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)22:54
_Sym_I guess Ubuntu does not work very well with the new intel cpus22:55
_Sym_and im not even using the latest22:55
_Sym_there are a ton of problems with Skylake22:56
bekks_Sym_: you are the first one ever I'm reading having a problem with a skylake CPU.22:56
bekksAnd for me, Ubuntu on Skylakes works fine.22:56
Bashing-om_Sym_: Maybe : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2328993 <- 16.04 install the i965-va-driver skylake .22:57
_Sym_thanks ill look at that22:57
TJ-Clu: Seveas it seems the Ubuntu NM packages don't have the NM_SETTINGS_WIRELESS_MODE_MONITOR - I worked with many months ago in some upstream branch but possibly it's not in the master branch22:58
fbontehi everyone22:58
_Sym_Bashing-om, the kernel in the latest LTS (16.04) has severe pipe underruns with Skylake cpu and built-in intel graphics cards22:59
_Sym_And, it was only fixed in 4.8.7 stable22:59
_Sym_so, we cant even use the default kernel in the latest lts with skylake22:59
_Sym_at least skylake in combo with the built-in intel graphics cards23:00
evga_Sym_, how can I know if I'm using a skylake cpu with ubuntu ?23:00
_Sym_look at system settings -> details23:01
evgait says Haswell23:01
sisojeHiz:23:02
sisojehiiiii23:02
_Sym_Intel® HD Graphics 520 (Skylake GT2)23:02
_Sym_thats what will not work23:02
evgaok23:02
_Sym_unless we rebuild the kernel with the latest stable23:03
_Sym_or even merge in intel-drm-nightly23:03
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evgais that possible with LTS ?23:03
_Sym_sure23:03
_Sym_i use kernel-pkg23:03
evgaI mean getting the latest kernel on LTS ?23:03
_Sym_yes23:03
_Sym_just build it23:04
_Sym_you can build it into a deb file23:04
evgaand what happens when apt finds an update ?23:05
_Sym_it will install it, but the new version of the kernel will still be on the top23:07
_Sym_the latest version will be the default selection23:07
_Sym_follow this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild23:08
_Sym_and use the last section (Using Ubuntu Kernel Configuration)23:09
_Sym_use the kernel config from your /boot23:09
_Sym_with make-kpkg23:09
evga_Sym_, what about the files at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/  ? are they legit ?23:11
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fooobarrrI created a 1 TB raid 1 with mdadm from 2, 1TB drives. However I did not format the drives before creating the raid. The two physical drives still show up in gnome-disks, and they show the old partion scheme. The raid seems to be working fine, but I'm wondering if there are any issues with not having previously partiioned these drives, other than the OS thinking they still have some kind of layout23:12
_Sym_evga, sure they are legit.23:13
jattevga: they are legit I run 4.8.7 from there23:14
fooobarrrone of the drives in the raid had the boot flag set, I'm wondering if unsetting that flag would mess anything uip23:14
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katkissonHi, guys, I'm a linux newbie. I want to clean install my 80GB desktop to have ubuntu. I would like to do the partitions myself. For 80GB on the hard drive, how much should I set the root partion, the home partition, and the swap to?23:26
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mcphailkatkisson: why on earth do you want to have /home and / on different partitions?23:29
lucas-argis there any progression with nvidia optimus technology in ubuntu??23:29
kk4ewtmcphail,  why not23:29
mcphailkk4ewt: for a start, it leads to dilemmas like the above23:30
kk4ewtmcphail,  that way i can replace the OS and keep my files in /home23:30
evgalucas-arg, I have an 840m optimus laptop and I'm using the Nvidia drivers to switch between intel and nvidia gpu ... you?23:31
mcphailkk4ewt: you can do that anyway23:31
kk4ewtmcphail,  and that is the way it has been done for 20 years23:31
mcphailkk4ewt: by whom?23:31
kk4ewtmcphail,  debian, redhat, etc23:31
katkissonbecause one guy had the same problem with his older 2008 laptop and set it up that way. I was having the same problem where after about a week I get a boot error saying it can't read or write to hdO, So, I did the three different partitions and it works great! But it had 320GB on its hard drive.23:32
lucas-argevga, 950m but nvidia-prime drives causes my laptop to freeze, lightdm sometimes doesnt even log me in unity and... tearing tearing everywhere with nvidia drivers, 367 and 370 and every single version of them23:32
mcphailkk4ewt: it has never been default in ubuntu, as it is a silly idea23:33
katkissonI have an older desktop with only 80GB, so I was wondering how GB to alot to each partition.23:33
lucas-argso my solution was to put nouveau.modeset=0 in kernel parameters and just use intels gpu23:33
kk4ewtmcphail,  we will agree to disagree23:33
evgalucas-arg, indeed I gave up using the 3D on this laptop with Ubuntu.. just using the intel gpu :(23:34
mcphailkatkisson: having /home on a separate partition will not fix a disk which is giving errors. Just leave everything in / and relax, unless you have a compelling reason to do otherwise23:34
mcphailkatkisson: micromanaging partition sizes is pointless for most people23:35
mcphailkatkisson: if you must have a separate / and /home, 10--20GB should be enough for / depending on your needs23:36
katkissonok sounds good. I don't have any problems with the desktoop, but I have put different linuxes on my laptop trying to fix the above problem. So, maybe that fix will work on that particular laptop.23:36
katkissondesktoop ha destop23:36
lucas-argevga, sad... but no matter what distro u use u will always have this problem23:36
katkissonhahahaha can't get it right yet23:36
Vern_Need help cant login pls23:37
katkissonok thanks a lot, mcphail23:37
mcphailkatkisson: enjoy23:38
lucas-argVern_, what or where?23:39
Vern_Cant login to login screen on my dell laptop23:39
Vern_Its looping23:40
lucas-argVern_, did you install nvidia drivers?23:40
Vern_Its factory install23:40
lucas-argVern_, what video card do you have?23:41
Vern_Nvidia gforce23:42
konradosMorning :)23:42
Vern_I can login with ctrl f423:42
Vern_But not to graphical23:43
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Guest14098Hello. I upgraded Ubuntu to the newest version from the last; I'm really hoping I didn't frag all my encrypted /home stuff in doing so23:43
lucas-argVern_, try this... sudo nano /etc/default/grb and add after quiet nouveau.modeset=0 then ctrl+x Y so you save those changes, then sudo update-grub and reboot23:43
lucas-argVern_, press ctrl + alt +F2 or F3 to get into a terminal23:44
Vern_Ok23:44
lucas-argVern_, if the pc or laptop just uses nvidia gpu then install nvidia-367 sudo apt-get install nvidia-367 or if is has optimus technology just live with intel gpu23:45
lucas-argVern_, how did that go?23:47
cofffeebean  i switched back to v14 of ubuntu..,  i didnt see anything special really abt.  v16 ..23:47
Vern_It says its allready newest version23:48
Guest14098anyone know their ecryptfs?23:48
lucas-argVern_, did you edit /etc/default/grub?23:49
Guest14098gparted indicates that my HDD is still as full as it was before reinstall... but can't find anything23:49
Guest14098worried23:49
Vern_No23:49
lucas-argVern_, do so... reboot and then proceed23:49
_Sym_anyone notice how buggy pulseaudio is with bluetooth headsets on 16.04? The bluetooth headset will not connect to the a2dp sink after rebooting.23:49
Vern_I will23:50
ptrzhi guys. I'm 16.10 and used 'ulimit -c unlimited' (confirmed by checking ulimit -a) but I'm still not getting a core file, even when the program exits with "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"23:50
lucas-argVern_, is it a pc or a laptop?23:50
ptrz'sudo find / -name *.core' shows nothing23:50
ptrzwhat am I missing?23:50
_Sym_Also, I still dont understand why the latest ubuntu lts has not fixed disabling the laptop trackpads when typing on the keyboard..23:52
_Sym_I had to manually patch unity-settings-daemon-15.04.1+16.04.20160701/plugins/mouse/gsd-mouse-manager.c23:52
_Sym_removing this line: g_ptr_array_add (args, "-t");23:52
cofffeebean  MY DRIVE FILLING-UP  was the main problem i had after upgrading to v16 from v14..,  i have both w7-pro &  ubuntu on the same 250gb drive  but after updating v16 of ubunto  it left me with 1gb of drive space ..23:52
_Sym_that "-t" argument breaks unity-settings-daemon23:53
_Sym_nobody notices that?23:53
_Sym_that bug is like 3 years old23:53
konradosI have only 2GB of RAM, I installed Kubuntu, because I like it, and now I'm wondering if this was a right decision. I would like to test LXDE. But only test. Is this possible & easy :) to have both of them? Like I used to have both Gnome and KDE and I could choose one of them on start23:54
_Sym_konrados, make a bootable usb stick that will not affect your system to test with23:55
_Sym_a live usb stick23:55
Vern_Laptop23:56
Vern_lucas-arg laptop23:57
_____hi23:57
cofffeebean  i havent tried kubuntu  but i did try lubuntu it works better on one of my y2k desktops  than any version of ubuntu does..23:57
Vern_Sorry im tapping from my phone23:58
evga_Sym_, talking about old bugs.. I reported a serious crash on wget when 16.04 came out and I think it's still there :)23:59
Vern_lucas-arg it sad something about possible broken package before23:59

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