[00:01] <benguitar> Another question for you guys, have any of you experienced or resolved the random 'pop' in audio when adjusting the volume level on your soundcard after 'x' amount of time? I've noticed this with both internal and external soundcards, and I'm led to believe that it has something to do with power saving or the soundcard going to 'sleep' Thoughts? I'm using 16.04 LTS Budgie
[00:12] <kk4ewt> benguitar, or you have a cold soldier joint on the port
[00:13] <protn> hi folks
[00:13] <protn> how I refresh dns cache via cli?
[00:14] <benguitar> kk4ewt, I missed the first part of your message, but I'll have to look at the hardware for cold solder, the weird part is that I'm talking about two different soundcards having the same problem, one is attached via USB, one if direct 1/8" out from my motherboard.
[00:15] <kk4ewt> benguitar,  so test another usb device and see if it has issues at time as well
[00:16] <benguitar> kk4ewt, ah.. time to go find another USB device to toy with.
[00:22] <wifihelp> So I just made a fresh 16.04 server install on an old PC and it's not detecting any network interfaces even after using USB wifi for the network install. Any help?
[00:26] <amaged__> Hi, I am given a VM, where it is configured so that when a user logs in, they are taken directly to a running application, so I can not get shell access, where can i find this setting and change it ?
[00:27] <FireStriker> How do I change the file manager on *ubuntu to PCManFM?
[00:31] <benguitar> kk4ewt, Having tried two different aux cables and two different outputs (line out and headphone out) the pop follows. It seems to happen intermittently  on both aux out and a USB device. Hmm
[00:42] <thesushimanoftao> does default 16.04 automatically install a UEFI partition?
[00:42] <bofh25519> \71nn2¾õDæn}Ìñ¦sýp
[00:47] <tomreyn> thesushimanoftao: it will install grub onto the efi system partition if needed.
[00:48] <tomreyn> (There is nmo such thing as an 'UEFI partition'.)
[00:51] <crayon> kunwon1
[00:52] <thesushimanoftao> looking for help with boot-repair and/or kernel panic errors
[00:52] <thesushimanoftao> it kept prompting me to make a uefi partition
[00:52] <thesushimanoftao> excuse
[00:52] <thesushimanoftao> efi
[00:53] <thesushimanoftao> i have not scrubbed and am restarting
[00:53] <thesushimanoftao> now scrubbed
[00:53] <thesushimanoftao> anyone know what causes kernel panic errors?
[00:54] <bofh25519> thesushimanoftao, wGüAf÷aÎÿuZæ?®
[00:54] <thesushimanoftao> ???
[00:54] <bofh25519> thesushimanoftao, I had problems w/ panic on past!
[00:55] <thesushimanoftao> was there a fix besides reloading?
[00:55] <thesushimanoftao> any idea as to cause?
[00:55] <bofh25519> thesushimanoftao, sysreq
[00:55] <bofh25519> thesushimanoftao, I had a cheat sheet around here somewhere..
[00:57] <gadget> is anyone using powerline in 16.04? I'm havning trouble getting vim to use a powerline statusline.
[00:59] <gadget> I add the rtp as dist-packages/powerline ... but it only works when I source the p...vim in vim from the prompt
[00:59] <bofh25519> thesushimanoftao, you got "not syncing" message?
[01:00] <thesushimanoftao> yup
[01:00] <thesushimanoftao> tried to follow boot-repair instructions from live cd, and ultimate boot disk
[01:01] <thesushimanoftao> both failed so I am reinstalling
[01:01] <thesushimanoftao> was able to recover data
[01:01] <bofh25519> thesushimanoftao, dos that have to do w/ early stage hardware detection?
[01:01] <bofh25519> does
[01:02] <thesushimanoftao> unsure as to cause, only that boot repair is supposed to work
[01:02] <thesushimanoftao> gave me problems with grup repair needing repositories
[01:02] <bofh25519> thesushimanoftao, would be goo to try to get the booting logs to get where it got stucked
[01:02] <thesushimanoftao> i got the boot info file
[01:03] <thesushimanoftao> from boot-repair
[01:03] <bofh25519> thesushimanoftao, Im inclined to tackle it on hardware issues (buggy/incompatible)
[01:04] <jalcine> gadget: you have a paste of your vimrc?
[01:05] <bofh25519> thesushimanoftao, on the other hand as you told ,the bootloader may be the cause too (particularly, it never happened to me)
[01:05] <thesushimanoftao> reinstall complete we will see
[01:06] <bofh25519> I also remember a long time ago the kernel saying "Aieeeee...":
[01:07] <bofh25519> thanks God it never happened again on recent distros
[01:07] <tomreyn> kernel panics can have many many many causes. it's important to read the message provided by the kernel when it panics. the "not syncing" message is just a follow-up confition, doe snot hint of the root cause.
[01:07] <bofh25519> it used to say "Aieee...." on non succesfull shutdown
[01:08] <thesushimanoftao> works again hope fir a wh8ile
[01:08] <bofh25519> tomreyn, a toss for you!
[01:09] <mikeymop> hey guys
[01:09] <bofh25519> "~ø.o¿'®Û¯w
[01:09] <mikeymop> I ran an update and found a 'Possible missing firmware' werro for an i915 module
[01:09] <mikeymop> is there a way I can identify and remedy this error?
[01:09] <mikeymop> or warning to be more accurate
[01:11] <amaged__> I am given a centos VM, It is configured in a way, so that when a user logs in, they are taken directly to a running application, there is no shell, I want to find a way to workaround that. all other users are blocked, any ideas ?
[01:11] <aruns> Greetings.
[01:11] <amaged__> I want to find out how to allow other users to login.
[01:12] <aruns> Hey, guys, what are your recommendations for desktop managers?
[01:12] <aruns> I used XFCE on my old laptop running Ubuntu 14.04
[01:13] <aruns> And currently have Unity, Cinnamon and Openbox on this laptop running Ubuntu 16.04
[01:14] <tomreyn> mikeymop: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/1611124 https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151911
[01:15] <mikeymop> so it is defintely just for kaby lake ubottu
[01:15] <nacc> it's just a warning, not a bug, ignore it
[01:16] <mikeymop> ok
[01:16] <nacc> mikeymop: yes, hence the prefix, afaict (kbl)
[01:16] <mikeymop> i read here
[01:16] <mikeymop> http://askubuntu.com/questions/811453/w-possible-missing-firmware-for-module-i915-bpo-when-updating-initramfs
[01:16] <mikeymop> that it could either be the drivers lagging behind the kernel or that the kernel is expecitn kaby lake drivers now and thats why i get hte warning
[01:17] <nacc> drivers can't lag behind the kernel, they are part of the kernel
[01:17] <mikeymop> i was confused when he said that too
[01:17] <nacc> mikeymop: it's just a module in the kernel is being built, which depends on unreleased firmware
[01:17] <mikeymop> then i remembered how gpu driver modules are handled
[01:18] <mikeymop> but dkms is a thing so
[01:18] <nacc> not for intel
[01:18] <mikeymop> gotch
[01:18] <mikeymop> ty
[01:21] <thesushimanoftao> thanks for the help room!
[01:22] <gadget> jalcine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23463843/
[01:29] <mwd> so i want to run valgrind on a ubuntu 14.04 system where i don't have root and thus can't install it via apt
[01:29] <mwd> is there a way to run valgrind without compiling it from scratch?
[01:29] <mwd> ie, some package unpacking in $HOME trick?
[01:30] <_YYZ> man, the questions are getting harder - only hardcore users nowadays
[01:30] <_YYZ> theres no innocence anymore
[01:37] <ixa> -
[01:37] <mwd> i unpacked the .deb file but it fails to find "memcheck"
[01:37] <mwd> sigh
[01:37] <nacc> mwd: i don't think there's a trivial way -- i guess you could download the .deb and extract it, but then you need to do all sorts of stuff
[01:38] <nacc> mwd: like you're finding, you'd need to ensure the deps are also available, etc.
[01:38] <nacc> mwd: can you not request the admin install valgrind? it's not a particularly harmful tool
[01:38] <nacc> mwd: and/or build from source, like you said
[01:38] <mwd> i have been waiting >1week on the ticket
[01:38] <mwd> build from source might work, i tried it in the distant past and failed and didn't want to try again unless necessary
[01:39] <nacc> mwd: sounds like an infrastructure issue :/
[01:39] <mwd> no kidding ;P
[01:39] <mwd> apt needs a feature to run packages in $HOME
[01:39] <nacc> mwd: you can use dpkg and do something like `dpkg -i <DEB> --force-not-root --root=/place/you/can/write/to/acts/like/root
[01:40] <nacc> mwd: but then you'd still have dependency hell
[01:40] <mwd> dpkg: error: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[01:41] <nacc> mwd: sorry, no idea at this point
[01:41] <mwd> ok no problem, thanks for the chat
[01:41] <Beng_Ben1> ;]
[01:42]  * mwd shall attempt to compile ..
[01:44] <mwd> haha the compile seems to have worked and it runs. i guess that make system is better now than it was before
[01:51] <rfleming> Does anyone know why audio in Ubuntu (Linux in general) always seems quieter than in Windows...
[01:51] <rfleming> IE, in Windows the laptop is quite loud, but is much softer in KDE/GNOME/Mate/XFCE, etc.
[01:57] <_YYZ> rfleming, I found that too
[01:59] <rfleming> I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the driver. Perhaps the proprietary driver utilises a built-in amplifier that the open-source one cannot
[02:00] <mebX> hey guy's I was wonder where I could find the best G.U.I. for the newest Ubuntu Server
[02:00] <mebX> thanks for your time!!!
[02:01] <_YYZ> rfleming, even inside Linux: there are some apps that will show poorer sound - due to the sound architecture involved
[02:02] <_YYZ> rfleming, some will not obey the equalizer cuz (I think theyre not using ALSA) and others will
[02:03] <_YYZ> and the uptime grows
[02:04] <squinty> mebX, typically ubuntu servers are not installed with desktop gui but you can install any of the desktop flavours on top of the basic ubuntu server release.  might also want to field your question in #ubuntu-server channel
[02:06] <mebX> thank you kind sir
[02:06] <_YYZ> ITS LATE
[02:17] <fsociety> Oi
[02:35] <hwl> help
[02:35] <hwl> first come here
[02:37] <nicomachus> !ask | hwl
[02:37] <squinty> !details | hwl
[02:56] <rfleming> I'm looking for an opinion.  Do you think it's better to set up LAMP with Ubuntu Server, or use the mini.iso?
[03:02] <squinty> rfleming, might want to ask in #ubuntu-server if no luck here
[03:03] <rfleming> I could... I'm just looking for opinion.  I know how to do it, but don't know if I should use the mini iso, or the full blown ubuntu server iso and get extra packages I don't really care about
[03:04] <rfleming> since it isn't going to be a server server (as in enterprise)
[03:07] <ipatrol> I'm not sure which channel this belongs in, but does anyone know the status of getting bug 1623666 resolved?
[03:08] <tmus> I frequently experience a serious crash with 16.10, where this message is the closest I can get to the source - I loose access to my nvme storage completely and thus, the system is unusable until powercycled; nvme 0000:05:00.0: Failed status: 0xffffffff, reset controller - Is this a known issue? A hardware fault (completely new laptop)?
[03:08] <melvincv> Is it possible for Linux Mint to join Ubuntu as a special Mint flavor? :)
[03:08] <ipatrol> !mint | melvincv
[03:09] <rfleming> melvincv: the Mint team has no interest in making Mint an Ubuntu flavour.
[03:11] <melvincv> I see. I am on Mint 18, but Hexchat asks me if I want to connect to #ubuntu ! Strange...
[03:11] <ipatrol> tmus: it is, apparently it's a case of poorly-designed hardware
[03:11] <ipatrol> tmus: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=211362
[03:13] <NOVAtechies> melvincv: is Hexchat packaged with Mint?  I thought that Konversation?
[03:13] <halisaurus> For those running on Apple hardware (MBP/MBA), did you remap your super/meta/alt to match the keyboard or just stick with it and learn the new layout?
[03:14] <melvincv> Yes. I am on it now. On Mint. After it offered to connect me to the #ubuntu channel.
[03:14] <melvincv> Strange because previous versions of Mint would automatically log me in to the right channels.
[03:15] <Guest6072> hello
[03:15] <NOVAtechies> melvincv: I've only played with Mint for a little bit.  I thought I would like it but I went right back to xubuntu
[03:16] <Guest6072> is some body use VIM with ubuntu ?
[03:16] <ipatrol> tmus: speaking from personal and professional knowledge, I think using an SSD as the primary drive in a laptop is a bad idea
[03:16] <tmus> ipatrol, i saw that post earlier but thought it inconclusive - I am using a Samsung device though, but I'm not sure of the exact model
[03:17] <Guest6072> is some body use VIM here  ?
[03:17] <NOVAtechies> Guest6072:  yes people use vim
[03:17] <tmus> ipatrol, well - it has served me well for 5 years on multiple devices. until this new laptop, I've never had an issue - And I'm never going back either! :)
[03:18] <melvincv> NOVAtechies, that brings me to my next question...
[03:18] <tmus> lemme see if there actually is a firmware update for this device
[03:18] <melvincv> Why do people prefer Ubuntu over Mint?
[03:18] <Guest6072> NOVAtechies
[03:18] <Guest6072> hello  NOVAtechies
[03:18] <nicomachus> melvincv: not really a question for this channel.
[03:18] <ipatrol> tmus: if you've had it for five years, it could theoretically be an early sign of device failure, depending on the specific technology used
[03:18] <NOVAtechies> melvincv: to be honest i have no idea.
[03:19] <Guest6072> How i can send you a private section
[03:19] <wedgie> Guest6072: if you have a question just ask. Or ask in #vim if your question is about vim
[03:20] <dc> helo
[03:20] <dc> lolollo
[03:20] <melvincv> nicomachus, not helpful, unless you point me in the right direction
[03:20] <Guest6072> wedgie thanks
[03:21] <dc> lol
[03:21] <ipatrol> the entire system of flash memory is basically that of repeatedly abusing lots of tiny transistors with abnormally high voltage pulses to get them to change their behavior
[03:21] <squinty> melvincv,  ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:22] <melvincv> ok
[03:23] <wedgie> ipatrol: the reliability of ssd's has increased dramatically in the last few years. And they are especially good for laptops because they can stand up to they physical abuse of being moved around better than a spinning disk. I personally will never buy a laptop without an ssd again
[03:23] <nicomachus> melvincv: read the /TOPIC
[03:25] <tmus> ipatrol, i've had SSD in my laptops for 5 years+. This is a brand new laptop and a brand new nvme ssd
[03:25] <ipatrol> tmus: oh, so it's a new SSD you mean, not the same one
[03:31] <ipatrol> wedgie: all true, but I'm personally waiting for true nvRAM to go into production that doesn't rely on such kludgy tricks
[03:36] <Guest6072> Dose anybosy write C language with VIM here  , i wanna ask some question ,thks
[03:41] <tmus> ipatrol, absolutely - brand new one! :)
[03:44] <ljc> hey, i'm looking to install an old version of ubuntu (hardy heron - 8.04) so i can install an old package. so i don't have to go through the pain of having to install ubuntu, are the old package mgmt systems still working?
[03:44] <ljc> ie installing hardy heron, i can install the old packages that will work on it
[03:52] <wedgie> ljc: the packages should still work, but the repos aren't around anymore. You may be able to find archives somewhere... or if your lucky the package you want is on the CD
[04:01] <ljc> wedgie: thanks!
[04:24] <Guest32048> exit
[04:37] <xenomader> name jonzee
[04:46] <Caluser> ljc    http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/
[05:48] <melquidez> hey
[05:50] <allaga> hello guys)))
[05:51] <allaga> lets chat?
[05:51] <allaga> I'm looking for a foreign friend))) for communication)))
[05:52] <allaga> im from Russia)))
[06:05] <Evidlo> Is it possible to mirror only a specific architecture like x86_64
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> Evidlo: whats your endgoal exactly?
[06:35] <ilzolende> is this an acceptable channel for asking random tech-support questions?
[06:36] <Caluser2000> ilzolende: Does it relate to ubuntu
[06:37] <ilzolende> yes
[06:37] <ilzolende> so, i must have hit some incorrect keyboard shortcut by mistake, because my display is in an extreme zoom mode of some kind
[06:37] <ilzolende> it shows a zoomed-in segment of the screen, centered around the cursor
[06:37] <ilzolende> how do i exit this mode?
[06:38] <Caluser2000> Can you log out? Then log in again.
[06:39] <ilzolende> ...never mind, fixed it
[06:39] <Caluser2000> What did you do?
[06:39] <ilzolende> (held down alt, scrolled down)
[06:40] <ilzolende> (i thought that i couldn't do a web search because the zoom made firefox unusable, but actually links was just barely usable, and the answer was in the third search result)
[06:42] <Caluser2000> Cool
[06:42] <ilzolende> yep, yay links, yay ubuntu forums (https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=997651)
[06:43] <Caluser2000> I'm using seamonky as my web browser.
[06:43] <ilzolende> the channel did help, because you had a link to the channel rules instead of having them in the topic, so i realized i needed to view *that* link, and then i already had a usable browser
[06:49] <jonky> hi
[06:51] <jonky> i upgraded from 15.10 to 16.10 via do-release-upgrade and at the end it said "The upgrade has completed but there were errors during the upgrade process." i haven't restarted yet.  should i be concerned?
[06:52] <Seveas> jonky: depends on the errors
[06:54] <freakyy> hi all. im having a problem with a dvd burner under windows as under ubuntu. i wanted to ask, is there a way i can update my dvd writers firmware under linux?
[06:54] <freakyy> i dont know how to find out the model
[06:55] <freakyy> and how to find out what firmware it's using
[06:55] <freakyy> it keeps faling at determining optimal power settings
[06:56] <freakyy> i dont know why
[06:56] <Caluser2000> If its not working in linux or windows I'd toss the drive.
[06:56] <freakyy> cd burning works, but not dvd burning
[07:00] <freakyy> its not even working on different dvd media
[07:01] <Seveas> trashcan time
[07:02] <Seveas> why would you burn dvds anyway in 2016
[07:03] <freakyy> Seveas: boot iso
[07:03] <Seveas> use a usb stick
[07:04] <freakyy> well i dont have nay
[07:04] <freakyy> any
[07:05] <Seveas> they're cheaper than dvd burners. Hell, they're cheaper than blank dvd's these days...
[07:09] <Caluser2000> Thats bit like asking who uses floppy drives though--> to support my old hardware.
[07:10] <Seveas> old hardware doesn't need floppies. It needs thermite :)
[07:10] <Caluser2000> lol
[07:11] <freakyy> well guys, how do i find out what exact dvd burner drive i have?
[07:11] <Seveas> if a computer is old enough to not support usb booting, it's not worth maintaining. Nostalgia is useless, you're just wasting your time.
[07:13] <Caluser2000> freakyy: rip it out and have a look.
[07:13] <freakyy> can anyone help me and tell me how i can find out what driv ei have ;D
[07:14] <Caluser2000> Sevea: What if that hardware is controlling manufacturing processes?
[07:14] <Caluser2000> There's a heap of old kit just doing that.
[07:17] <Caluser2000> Hell at my previous place of employment a Compact Deskpro was running diagnostic equipment. I donated a VGA card for it because they had no EGA monitor.
[07:18] <freakyy> well i have a recent pc
[07:18] <freakyy> but i dont have the moeny right now for an usb stick
[07:18] <freakyy> and my current usb stick is at a friends house somewhere where he cant find it
[07:18] <freakyy> i wrote him now i hope he can bring my usb stick
[07:19] <freakyy> it's a good one
[07:22] <blueflame_> hai friends iam new user for linux
[07:22] <blueflame_> i dont know about linux commands
[07:23] <freakyy> blueflame_: welcoem tot he linux world ;D
[07:23] <freakyy> do u have a system running?
[07:23] <blueflame_> anyone help me to crack wifi passswords
[07:23] <freakyy> no sorry ;P
[07:23] <blueflame_> yes i have but iam new user for linux i dont know anything
[07:24] <Caluser2000> http://ss64.com/bash/
[07:24] <blueflame_> i have no netconnect
[07:24] <blueflame_> iam using hotspots
[07:24] <Caluser2000> And...
[07:24] <blueflame_> iam a small boy i want to learn linux
[07:24] <blueflame_>  i install it on yesterday night
[07:25] <Caluser2000> I linked to a command summary
[07:25] <blueflame_> i have no money to brought a netconnect
[07:26] <blueflame_> so i waant to use aircrack ng for studing perpose only and net connect
[07:26] <Caluser2000> What version of Linux have you installed
[07:26] <freakyy> Caluser2000: look, this is my usb stick he cant find anymore: https://cloud.nextgamers.eu/s/YEcdJuDE2AkDYtg
[07:26] <Caluser2000> That link doesn't work.
[07:27] <blueflame_> backbox 4.6
[07:29] <blueflame_> one of my friend run his own computer shop he said linux is power full so you start learning at linux so i install it
[07:31] <freakyy> Caluser2000: u need to accept the licence
[07:31] <freakyy> its selfmade
[07:31] <freakyy> well
[07:32] <malkauns> blueflame_, so what do u think?
[07:32] <freakyy> it currently has unityhub licence i need to switch it to nextgamers.eu ;D
[07:33] <blueflame_> i dont know what is that tell me please about licence
[07:46] <freakyy> blueflame_: has nothing to do with u
[08:27] <roshalt> im getting dpkg error
[08:27] <roshalt> i tried stack overflow
[08:27] <roshalt> results
[08:34] <michago> good morning
[08:35] <hhee1> guys
[08:35] <hhee1> if i paste something in terminal
[08:35] <hhee1> it adds something like 0~     -~  in begin and end
[08:35] <hhee1> WHAT is this?:)
[08:36] <hhee1> locale set as UTF-8
[08:36] <hhee1> all params
[08:36] <anddam> I'm on OpenVZ, I just updated the system and I got "This version of the GNU libc requires kernel version 3.2 or later.  Older versions might work but are not officially supported. Please consider upgrading your kernel."
[08:37] <anddam> I understand in openvz the kernel is constrained but what would be a proper path to system upgrade then?
[08:37] <anddam> are there different repositories for it and should my hosting provider offer those?
[08:40] <ducasse> anddam: openvz is a container system aiui, so the host provides the kernel
[08:43] <rootkea> Hi! How can I expand the pattern stored in a parameter? i.e. parameter expansion followed by pattern expansion
[08:43] <rootkea> e.g. p={*,.[^.],.??*}; ls ~/$p
[08:44] <rootkea> I'm using bash BTW
[08:44] <ducasse> rootkea: that is a better question for #bash, for example
[08:46] <rootkea> ducasse: umm Okay. Actually I asked that in #bash but still no reply so I thought may be I should ask here too :)
[08:47] <ducasse> rootkea: did you try ##linux as well?
[08:49] <rootkea> ducasse: Thanks! Right away!
[09:02] <FireStriker> hi im looking for a dock like ubuntu for xubuntu
[09:02] <baizon> FireStriker: dockbarx
[09:03] <baizon> FireStriker: or docky, or cairo-dock
[09:03] <FireStriker> ok
[09:03] <FireStriker> which one runs smoth looks nice while being lightweight
[09:03] <baizon> FireStriker: that i cant tell, im not using them
[09:04] <FireStriker> lol
[09:04] <baizon> FireStriker: but i guess google can tell you that :)
[09:04] <FireStriker> didnt know if you knew or not lol
[09:04] <FireStriker> do you use flat ubuntu
[09:04] <baizon> FireStriker: yes i am
[09:11] <anddam> ducasse:yes, the hoster provides the kernel but the userland is regular ubuntu so when I update I can have a message like the one I pasted
[09:11] <anddam> my question is if I should be doing something different
[09:24] <igiann> good mornig to ubuntu channel
[09:38] <andywork> good morning
[09:39] <ArchaicLord> Hello.. first time here.. hoping to ask for some help with Ubuntu server 16.04 if possible
[09:41] <bazhang> why not try #ubuntu-server ArchaicLord
[09:41] <andywork> ArchaicLord: you could try, but there is actually a dedicated channel #ubuntu-server
[09:41] <ArchaicLord> ah ok cool thanks.. sorry first time on irc a friend suggested to me to use this service
[09:49] <ArchaicLord> hmm doesn't seem very active over there? Any suggestions how to wake people up? I see lots of people are connected but no one is home :(
[09:50] <Mordessin> Nobody wants help
[09:50] <bazhang> Mordessin, we wait for them to ask
[10:00] <getfat> whois getfat
[10:04] <user_> hello?
[10:05] <te_lanus> hi
[10:08] <user_> is anyone active here?
[10:09] <FMan> not really
[10:09] <andywork> user_: you look like you have questions, try ask them, then linger here for a while
[10:10] <user_> well thats boring
[10:10] <bazhang> chat in #ubuntu-offtopic while you wait user_
[10:10] <user_> ok
[10:11] <teenis> hey user_
[10:11] <teenis> whats your cell #
[10:11] <teenis> I need it to verify my tinder account
[10:11] <teenis> ty
[10:11] <user_> lol
[10:11] <valdivar> Hello
[10:11] <teenis> no seriously
[10:12] <user_> ok
[10:12] <user_> its 555-5555-555-555
[10:12] <teenis> i dont think that's right
[10:12] <user_> have you tried it?
[10:12] <teenis> could you just try to co-operate here
[10:13] <teenis> it wont let me submit that
[10:13] <user_> well im in a low earth orbit so i dont think it will work
[10:13] <bazhang> user_, and teenis take this chat elsewhere please
[10:16] <user_> okok
[10:42] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:42] <OerHeks> hi BluesKaj
[10:42] <BluesKaj> hey OerHeks
[11:11] <root____8> helllo
[11:11] <root____8> some body here /
[11:11] <root____8> ？
[11:13] <OerHeks> :-)
[11:13] <OerHeks> !rootirc
[11:18] <iparhan> hello
[11:19]  * iparhan 
[11:20] <Birosso> HELLOH.
[11:32] <xJeremyCx> Hey ya. I'm trying to create a desktop file and upon double click, it shows me a list of dns addresses. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23465375/
[11:33] <xJeremyCx> however, the terminal window closes immediately
[11:34] <xJeremyCx> Why doesn't read -p ''" wait for my keyboard input before the window is closed?
[11:44] <Maximus641> Hey, is it possible to get some help here?
[11:44] <OerHeks> Maximus641, ask, wait and see
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> Maximus641  this is the help channel, so yes
[11:44] <ville-haavisto> v
[11:45] <jaky> d
[11:45] <Maximus641> Ok then. I am switching from windows to linux now. and i was trying to configure my own keyboard layout. I have seen that they are stored in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols
[11:45] <ville-haavisto> I'm lonely and I wanna die
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> ville-haavisto  wrong channel
[11:46] <Maximus641> and the layouts are all files. In the bulgarian file there are some kind of macros like "Cyrillic_ya". i can not find any definition where it is being resolved to a unicode letter. where can i find that?
[11:47] <King_Hual> MonkeyDust: you just contributed to someone's suicide
[11:47] <BluesKaj> ville-haavisto, why? it's not January in Finland yet :-)
[11:47] <traceur920> Hi there, can someone enlighten me on how to overcome dependencies problems that "cannot be solved"? I've a package that asks for libatkmm-1.6-1 and says that has been replaced by libatkmm-2.22.1 but doesn't let me go on
[11:48] <traceur920> (I'm trying to install VBA-M)
[11:49] <popey> where you installing vba-m from?
[11:49] <traceur920> Package from Sourceforge
[11:50] <traceur920> https://sourceforge.net/projects/vbam/
[11:51] <popey> what are you installing on?
[11:52] <traceur920> Lubuntu 16.04.1
[11:52] <popey> right, that's not gonna work
[11:52] <popey> needs rebuilding for newer releases
[11:52] <traceur920> From source?
[11:52] <popey> yeah
[11:53] <pconstantin> ?
[11:53] <traceur920> Cannot find them >.>
[11:53] <popey> https://github.com/visualboyadvance-m/visualboyadvance-m.git
[11:53] <popey> thats what I build from :)
[11:54] <traceur920> Uh, right :|
[11:54] <traceur920> Not so familiar with Git, probably missed the link
[11:55] <popey> am building now to see if it still works
[11:56] <traceur920> Thank you, I'll try and report :)
[11:56] <popey> bah, fails to build here, sorry.
[11:58] <arm1e> Any help with wifi issues on intel chip. Often downloads fail part way, and iso's never match the checksums unless I use ethernet. Have updated to kernel 4.6.7 on 16.04 but still no luck
[11:58] <traceur920> popey: how do you build this?
[11:58] <arm1e> Did not have this issue on other, non ubuntu installs
[11:58] <ikonia> arm1e: where did you get that kernel ?
[11:59] <arm1e> used the kernel updater tool recently released in a ppa. Hold on and I will find the tool
[12:00] <arm1e> http://www.teejeetech.in/2016/04/ubuntu-kernel-upgrade-utility.html
[12:00] <arm1e> works well
[12:00] <ikonia> arm1e: so basically you've moved to an unsupported kernel using an unsupported tool
[12:00] <arm1e> tried other, supported kernels
[12:00] <arm1e> also triey yakety
[12:00] <arm1e> *tried
[12:00] <ikonia> you used the kernel from yakety on your current release
[12:01] <arm1e> popey, I have the same wifi card as you. Do you still have issues?
[12:01] <arm1e> ikonia, No, I had this same issue on yakety
[12:01] <popey> you may or may not have the same card as me :)
[12:01] <popey> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7265 (rev 59)
[12:01] <arm1e> popey, you helped me in the past
[12:01] <popey> that's what I have
[12:02] <arm1e> Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 (rev bb)
[12:02] <arm1e> so not then
[12:02] <popey> so close
[12:02] <FireStriker> does anyone here know how to install doom 3?
[12:02] <popey> mine no longer drops off wifi at all
[12:02] <FireStriker> i have been have some problems
[12:02] <popey> 4.4.0-45-generic
[12:02] <ikonia> FireStriker: from what ?
[12:03] <traceur920> (back with problems, seems the same with the deb package )
[12:03] <FireStriker> dhewm3
[12:03] <ikonia> popey: didn't 2 or 3 wifi cards from intel get firmware updates back ported recently ?
[12:03] <arm1e> popey, 16.04?
[12:05] <tomreyn> traceur920: git clone https://github.com/visualboyadvance-m/visualboyadvance-m; cd visualboyadvance-m; cmake .; make -j `lscpu -p | grep -c '^[0-9]' | xargs -I '{}' expr '{}' - 1`
[12:05] <popey> yes arm1e
[12:05] <popey> ikonia: pass
[12:05] <arm1e> popey, lucky bugger
[12:05] <popey>  12:05:36 up 18 days, 19:10, 17 users,  load average: 0.73, 0.97, 0.97
[12:05] <popey> seems to work okay here. not sure what is causing it for others, I know there's a few issues around this which are being looked into
[12:05] <arm1e> popey, which kernel
[12:06] <popey> look up
[12:06] <popey> I'd file a bug if I were you, at least
[12:06] <traceur920> tomreyn, thank you, will try but seems I do not have some old libraries
[12:06] <traceur920> too old to be installed
[12:07] <tomreyn> traceur920: and it builds for me (on ubuntu 16.04 x86_64), but i think building a specific software is considered OT here (maybe #ubuntu-offtopic would work if you have a registered nickname)
[12:08] <traceur920> Oh, ok, sorry :)
[12:09] <traceur920> tomreyn, no luck, same errors... anyway thanks!
[12:10] <FireStriker> ikonia: im using dhewm3 to install doom3
[12:10] <tomreyn> traceur920: as i said, it builds fine for me on 16.04. do you have something newer then?
[12:11] <traceur920> Lubuntu 16.04.1 counts as new?
[12:11] <tomreyn> traceur920: that's the same release
[12:12] <tomreyn> (just a different blend)
[12:13] <tomreyn> you probably just lack some build dependency (*-dev) packages.
[12:13] <traceur920> libatkmm-1.6-1 --> 2.22.1 and a bunch of SFML libraries that cannot be installed, but no idea why
[12:15] <tomreyn> traceur920: we can talk in #ubuntu-offtopic for a bit if you like
[12:16] <te> who te
[12:18] <traceur920> sure
[12:18] <arm1e> switching back to main kernel to test
[12:24] <FireStriker> hey guys i have been trying to install doom3
[12:24] <FireStriker> i need a little be of help
[12:25] <FireStriker> i have been using dhewm3
[12:25] <mlvmhn> anyone know the best software for video editing?
[12:26] <bekks> "best" is always part of your personal opinion.
[12:27] <mlvmhn> Kdenlive is good?
[12:27] <bekks> If you like it and if it fits your needs, it is good.
[12:29] <arm1e> on stock kernel but need to update. get this error:
[12:29] <arm1e> E: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-extra-4.4.0-47-generic_4.4.0-47.68_amd64.deb  Hash Sum mismatch
[12:30] <mlvmhn> k, what do i need for hardware to run video editing smoothly?
[12:31] <bekks> mlvmhn: thats a good question for ##hardware
[12:32] <Guest32712> arm1e: do
[12:32] <Guest32712> apt-get clean
[12:32] <Guest32712> apt-get update
[12:32] <Guest32712> and retry
[12:37] <arm1e> Guest32712, cheers.
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> arm1e  works?
[12:39] <arm1e> finished the update but not sure about other downloads
[12:39] <arm1e> will download an iso and do a checksum
[12:47] <debkad> i want to switch from firefox to something else, any suggestion?
[12:49] <arm1e> debkad, vivaldi is good
[12:49] <debkad> arm1e: thanks i will test it
[12:49] <tomreyn> debkad: chromium is another open source, full featured, up to date, web browser.
[12:50] <Druid> chromium has binary blobs
[12:50] <tomreyn> (which is in the repositories, too)
[12:50] <tomreyn> Druid: the one in ubuntu?
[12:50] <debkad> which one is light?
[12:51] <Druid> wait
[12:51] <Druid> I think they removed it
[12:52] <Druid> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/26/googles_not_listening_binary_blob_banished_from_chromium_build/
[12:52] <Druid> sorry for outdated info
[12:52] <debkad> ah
[12:52] <ville-haavisto> I'm lonely and I wanna die!
[12:53] <ville-haavisto> I'm lonely and I wanna die!4
[12:53] <ville-haavisto> I'm lonely and I wanna die!
[12:53] <ville-haavisto> I'm lonely and I wanna die!
[12:53] <tomreyn> ville-haavisto: stop
[12:53] <debkad> o_o
[12:54] <ville-haavisto> I'm gonna kill myself tonight!
[12:54] <debkad> not good
[12:56] <arm1e> MonkeyDust, update worked but downloaded iso does not match md5 sum
[12:56] <debkad> arm1e: seems like vivaldi not exist on the repos, is it available from source only or it have another name on the repos?
[12:56] <arm1e> debkad, download deb from website or add a ppa
[12:57] <debkad> ah ok thanks
[12:58] <sweet12> i have ubutnu15.04 and i want to upgrade to 16.04 can you help me please?
[12:58] <ville-haavisto> Nobody loves me and I'm down and out!
[12:59] <BluesKaj> sweet12, clean install is the only way now
[12:59] <tomreyn> sweet12: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/
[12:59] <ville-haavisto>  Nobody loves me and I'm down and out!
[12:59] <ville-haavisto>  Nobody loves me and I'm down and out!
[12:59] <Guest32712> !upgrade | sweet12
[12:59] <ville-haavisto>  Nobody loves me and I'm down and out!
[12:59] <debkad> ville-haavisto: don't care about the others, and there is always who love you
[13:00] <ville-haavisto> I'm gonna kill myself tonight!
[13:00] <ville-haavisto> I'M GONNA KILL MYSELF TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:01] <pauljw> get back to us tomorrow and let us know how it went..
[13:01] <Guest32712> go ahead 🔫
[13:01] <BluesKaj> ville-haavisto, you need a shrink, we don't offer that service here
[13:01] <sweet12> Blueskaj: how can i make it fresh install with out affecting window machine which is in dual boot?
[13:02] <ville-haavisto> I'm just a dying man...
[13:04] <BluesKaj> sweet12, use the manual partitioning and install to the ext4/linux partition
[13:27] <TJ-> lxc with unprivileged container using the server guide example fails, can't find any bug reports, any ideas?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23465767/
[13:30] <andrea_> hello
[13:35] <alberto_> hola que ta
[13:42] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> any flat icons for 16.10?
[13:43] <TJ-> All icons are flat, we don't do holographic or pseudo-3D desktops as yet :)
[13:44] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> TJ-, a few recommendations please
[13:44] <TJ-> SaIasaAllMyBoyz: no idea, I don't use GUI if I can avoid it
[13:44] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> do you other other set of icons than the default one?
[13:45] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> s/other/use
[13:45] <jatt> numix-icon-theme-circle
[13:46] <maria_o> Ths guy spamming on join : Belka
[13:46] <maria_o> hi btw.
[13:47] <gde33> is it normal for things like indicator-datetime-service and evolution-calendar-factory-subprocess to be using over a gb in virtua memory?
[13:48] <gde33> each
[13:49] <TJ-> gde33: the 'virtual memory' usually indicates all the shared libraries in use, which are shared across multiple processes but are only in memory once
[13:49] <rexwin_> I have following sudoers file. http://pastebin.ca/3738362
[13:49] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> jatt, thanks, but i cant find icons there for the apps i use
[13:49] <rexwin_> how to restrick user asx so that he can run only sudo apt-get and nothing else?
[13:49] <maria_o> I am on a macbook Sierra. Is it possible to install ubuntu as a side OS? I mean choose one of them on restart? (without rEFInd or such)
[13:50] <gde33> TJ-: strange that it uses vm for that but ok
[13:50] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> do you know an falt icon theme rich in icons for apps and usable in 16.10?
[13:50] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> s/falt/flat
[13:56] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> i used to use ultra-flat-icons but theyre not available for 16.10 yet
[13:57] <TJ-> gde33: When a shared object is loaded by the kernel it is mapped into each process's virtual memory addresses from a single mapping in the kernel's mapping, so that it doesn't use up memory space with duplicates
[13:58] <gde33> TJ-: I guess I'm just confused by it being called datetime and calendar
[13:59] <gde33> those are just the first processes mapping objects?
[13:59] <TJ-> gde33: as far as i recall they are 'backend' services from the Evolution package in Gnome uses to provide the same services to the desktop. I agree that Gnome/Unity seems to be needlessly top-heavy in that respect.
[14:00] <TJ-> gde33: example - say we have libexmaple.so loaded by example.exe ... then if later example2.exe also loads libexample.so the Linux kernel will simply map its existing image into example2.exe's virtual memory address space
[14:01] <gde33> ye makes sense
[14:01] <TJ-> gde33: so only one copy of libexample.so is actually using real, physical, RAM
[14:02] <TJ-> gde33: this is one of the benefits of using dynamic load libraries (DLL)/shared objects (SO)
[14:03] <gde33> any way to live without the calendar thing?
[14:05] <gde33> am I using it?
[14:09] <TJ-> gde33: As far a I know it is part of the underlying plumbing for Gnome based desktops
[14:10] <gde33> ill stop worrying and learn to love the gnome desktop :P
[14:10] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> i found this theme https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1012430/ - seems to work well and it looks nice
[14:10] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> its a flat icon theme
[14:11] <gde33> SaIasaAllMyBoyz: what does flat mean in that context?
[14:11] <gde33> a single layer?
[14:11] <FireStriker> hey guys im farly new to ubuntu, how do i install/use wine/playonlinux
[14:11] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> frankly, i use 'flat' only as a tag for what i like
[14:11] <gde33> SaIasaAllMyBoyz: I've seen it mentioned before
[14:12] <maria_o> Guys is ubuntu much lighter than windows? can work with less hardware support? is that true or just a sroty.
[14:13] <maria_o> story
[14:13] <elias_a> True.
[14:13] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> maria_o, are you Romanian?
[14:13] <elias_a> maria_o: Try it. You will be surprized. :)
[14:13] <gde33> dSaIasaAllMyBoyz: ic, it is just a buzz word used for simple
[14:14] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> we can have a simple icon thats not a flat icon
[14:14] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> i hate semantics
[14:15] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> too subtle, too subtle for my mind
[14:16] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> i wish the design freeze at 'flat' stage - flat is just perfect, lets stop evolve
[14:17] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> there are already people wondering "whats next?"
[14:17] <TJ-> SaIasaAllMyBoyz: flat is bad for icons; the entire point of the 3D relief/borders is to give clear context around an 'active' GUI component.
[14:17] <maria_o> elias_a:  it's more slower than my windows 7
[14:17] <TJ-> SaIasaAllMyBoyz: for people with visual or perception difficulties that can be vital
[14:17] <maria_o> elias_a:  Everythings lags..
[14:17] <SchrodingersScat> maria_o: and there's flavors lighter than ubuntu, like xubuntu (my personal fav) and lubuntu
[14:18] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> TJ-, gray means disabled, find another color for 'clicked'
[14:18] <user1786519> maria_o: depends on your luck. and hardware
[14:19] <Seventeen> Hi everybody. Need help with something. What chan should I ask in?
[14:19] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> ubuntu has a new feature: if n app stops responding, it gets darker
[14:19] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> its quite nice
[14:19] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> a windowed app
[14:20] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> i dont know if its new, but i do know i just discovered it
[14:21] <elias_a> maria_o: Same hardware? You have to have something misconfigured.
[14:21] <TJ-> SaIasaAllMyBoyz: you're missing the point - the border of a button, or check-box, distinguishes it. Some people will not be able to recognise colour variations
[14:21] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> ok, TJ-
[14:21] <elias_a> maria_o: Are you sure you have a swap partition?
[14:21] <TJ-> maria_o: are you using Ubuntu with Unity or Gnome, that require '3D' accelerated video drivers?
[14:22] <elias_a> maria_o: Tell us your hardware specs.
[14:22] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> someone used to say "the best interface is no interface"
[14:23] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> i forgot his name
[14:23] <user1786519> not even command line
[14:23] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> not even
[14:24] <derbie> Hello
[14:24] <user1786519> and multimeter
[14:24] <derbie> E: Package 'openjdk-7-jdk' has no installation candidate
[14:24] <derbie> What to do?
[14:24] <maria_o> elias_a:  I have swap partition
[14:25] <user1786519> maria_o: is your hdd indicator blinking or staying on?
[14:25] <Seventeen> Well that was a disaster. Be nice if Screen didn't explode on me, since that defeats the whole point of Screen.
[14:26] <SchrodingersScat> Seventeen: welcome back.  and if you're not sure you can ask the question here, then someone may direct you elsewhere if it's inappropriate for here.  there's also the alis bot !alis
[14:26] <cfhowlett> derbie, are you on 16.04?  then openjdk-8 is your flavor
[14:27] <Seventeen> Anyway: Does anyone know what logs I should be looking at to find out why login screen -> passwd -> login begins -> get kicked back out to the login screen keeps happening for all my users after a recent package update? I've checked auth.log and, while it shows a failure of PAM and kwallet interaction, I'm not convinced that's the real problem.
[14:27] <Seventeen> SchrodingsScat: Thanks.
[14:28] <user1786519> i had login loop when i mess with xorg.conf trying to get it to use intel instead of nvidia
[14:29] <user1786519> so...maybe check xorg log?
[14:31] <t0by> I'm sorry, has anybody managed to actually *mount* a Mega.co.nz account? There are a bunch of FUSE clients out there, but the ones I tried seem to behave very erratically.
[14:32] <danielnov8> Anyone know how to keep the firewall gufw status 'ON' at all times? I have to run gufw and click status on evey time I boot up.
[14:32] <cfhowlett> !ufw | danielnov8,
[14:34] <ArchaicLord> Hi all, I have a raid5 disk array. Today I created a LVM for it..
[14:34] <ArchaicLord> mount /dev/lvm-raid/lvm0 /mnt
[14:35] <ArchaicLord> df -h /mnt
[14:35] <ArchaicLord> which gives me
[14:35] <ArchaicLord> Filesystem                 Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[14:35] <ArchaicLord> /dev/mapper/lvm_raid-lvm0  5.5T   34M  5.5T   1% /mnt
[14:35] <danielnov8> ffhowlett: yes I know. When I used linux Mint once status was on it remained on always until turned off. Not sured why ubuntu turns it off at start up...
[14:35] <ArchaicLord> now I am confused how to write a file to it.. I
[14:36] <cfhowlett> danielnov8, wild guess: contradictory commands in a config file ... somewhere.
[14:37] <ArchaicLord> or create a directory tree I tried mkdir test /dev/mapper/lvm_rad-lvm0/mnt and told its not a directory so not sure where to go from here
[14:37] <SaIasaAllMyBoyz> i had some issues with my icon theme (i use a dark theme) and i chose to install https://github.com/numixproject/numix-icon-theme-circle
[14:38] <user1786519> danielnov8: if everything else fails, start it in /etc/init.d/rc.local
[14:39] <derbie> @cfhowlett yes I am, i'm trying to run mozilla's bootstrapping script
[14:39] <derbie> however, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1316005
[14:40] <derbie> Oups
[14:40] <derbie> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1292649
[14:40] <TJ-> ArchaicLord: you've done "mount <device> <mountpoint>" so the file-system is available under <mountpoint> which in your case wa "/mnt/", yes?
[14:41] <derbie> and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1267097
[14:42] <ArchaicLord> ah ok.. anychance i can change the mount to something more logical like lv_mount?
[14:43] <ArchaicLord> I am afraid the OS has a /mnt/ as well and its to ambiguous to distingish between the two
[14:43] <TJ-> ArchaicLord: you can use any regular directory as a mount-point, as long as it exists. It helps if it is empty since if you mount over a directory that has content that content will be invisible until you un-mount
[14:44] <TJ-> ArchaicLord: well what I do is create sub-dirs under /mnt/ for each device, so e.g. "sudo mkdir /mnt/testing && sudo mount /dev/<some-device> /mnt/testing"
[14:44] <yellabs-r2> is there a barcode reader program , to use with usb bar code reader
[14:44] <compdoc> belka is some sort of bot with a /join msg saying to visit some website
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[14:46] <donjuan> compdoc, same me to
[14:46] <donjuan> meaby spam ?
[14:46] <cfhowlett> spam yes.  it does happen
[14:46] <Greencloud> howdy!
[14:46] <compdoc> say it aint so!
[14:47] <protn> hi
[14:48] <protn> when I press toggle combo to switch language nothing happen
[14:48] <flux242> why isn't it banned from the channel?
[14:48] <flux242> the spammer I mean
[14:48] <|VAH|-htmldude> does anyone know how to install urban terror on ubuntu
[14:48] <user1786519> protn: input method editor?
[14:48] <donjuan> my question why ubuntu not use a rolling release like archlinux
[14:49] <protn> user1786519:  how would I start it?
[14:49] <cfhowlett> donjuan, it was discussed, debated and decided.
[14:49] <|VAH|-htmldude> does anyone know how to install urban terror on ubuntu
[14:49] <flux242> donjuan: they aren't that stupid
[14:49] <jatt> what is a rolling release
[14:49] <donjuan> haha, cz i hate version
[14:49] <zhi> ......
[14:50] <zhi> i no speek engelishi
[14:50] <user1786519> protn: check what ime system you have in settings -> language
[14:50] <cfhowlett> zhi, what language?
[14:50] <zhi> do you bown chanises?
[14:50] <cfhowlett> !cn | zhi
[14:51] <user1786519> then install the corresponding ime packages, like fcitx-chewing for fcitx+chinese
[14:52] <ArchaicLord> thanks <TJ>
[14:52] <flux242> so, do I understand correct that the channel ops own belka spam bot?
[14:52] <protn> yes
[14:52] <flux242> fuck it
[14:52] <cfhowlett> flux242, that spambot is NOT from the ops.  do not spread misinformation.
[14:53] <zhi> -。-
[14:54] <Seventeen> user1786519: Thanks. Yea I've tried that, some more log entries that are probably nothing but might be something.
[14:56] <ArchaicLord> TJ-: thanks tj that helped.. i see how i can mount more than one point at a time.. sorry i am completly new to this
[14:56] <resurtm> Hello! How can I list packages installed locally with "dpkg -i"? Google does not help me with that. Thanks!
[14:57] <user1786519> dpkg -l
[14:57] <resurtm> user1786519, it lists all packages, even installed with apt-get install %packagename%.
[14:57] <resurtm> I need to list only those I've installed locally from deb files.
[14:58] <user1786519> hmm.
[14:58] <ArchaicLord> so now can i assume i can create a samba share on /mnt/file
[14:58] <TJ-> ArchaicLord: we all have to start sometime :)
[14:58] <ArchaicLord> do i need to add the locattion to mount on startup ?
[14:59] <TJ-> ArchaicLord: usually you will, for system-wide mount points, via /etc/fstab
[15:00] <zhi> 我
[15:00] <zhi> 。。。
[15:00] <resurtm> user1786519, aptitude search "~o" does what I want. Thank you anyway! :-)
[15:00] <ArchaicLord> sorry I have ubuntu server installed on usb.. and created a raid aray for my media data and backups.. I create a raid5 array and today learned i needed ot create lvm and lv for it which is what i just finished
[15:00] <tomreyn> resurtm: it's not easy, and you should not install packages using dpkg, if it can be prevented. here's something which gets close to what you are looking for: sudo apt-get install apt-show-versions; apt-show-versions | grep -Ev '(not installed|uptodate)$'
[15:00] <ArchaicLord> so now i want to create samba share to then back up and share media save anad al that
[15:01] <resurtm> tomreyn, I know installing fom *.deb is not very good. But unfortunately not all software provides PPA or repos.
[15:01] <resurtm> tomreyn, aptitude search "~o" did what I wanted.
[15:01] <tomreyn> yes, this does pretty much the same, i guess
[15:02] <TJ-> ArchaicLord: RAID-5 is generally discouraged in favour of RAID-6 or RAID 1+0 or RAID 0+1 (striped mirrors) - is there a reason for choosing RAID-5 - are you aware of what your recovery options will be shoud 1 or more devices fail?
[15:02] <resurtm> tomreyn, thanks anyway!
[15:02] <ArchaicLord> TJ-:  I am now.. I should get a new disk on order asap
[15:03] <ArchaicLord> TJ-: when i read about raid i figured 5 was best for reduncay speed and space
[15:03] <TJ-> ArchaicLord: OK, just that as you're planning on relying on it, be triple-sure it can surivive and rebuild from failure
[15:04] <tomreyn> read again, comparing 5 to 6, then 6 to 10 / 1+0
[15:04] <TJ-> ArchaicLord: don't wait until you hit a failure to learn, and practice, how to recover it
[15:04] <ArchaicLord> i know about 1+0 I done that in windows....
[15:04] <ArchaicLord> its just I have 4*2tb drivce and leaving me with 2tb is just well not enough
[15:05] <Guest69618> h
[15:05] <tomreyn> then buy more drives (and drive bays, controllers, larger computer, if needed) or be prepared to spend more time restoring.
[15:06] <Guest69618> v
[15:07] <tomreyn> (either approach can work, depends on your use case)
[15:07] <ArchaicLord> whats recommended between 6 and 1+0
[15:08] <ArchaicLord> I guess 1+0 is best redundncyt
[15:08] <TJ-> ArchaicLord: I always prefer mirroring because its so much easier to continue/recovery than most other configs. in a 3-disk mirror I can pull out 2 disks and still have a complete file-system to work with
[15:08] <nomic> belka = spamming bot
[15:08] <nomic> ops
[15:09] <ArchaicLord> my use case is I built a ubuntu server for backign up my laptops, pcs as well as storing and sharing medai.. IE I want to install plex to host my dvds on or music
[15:09] <TJ-> ArchaicLord: with other levels there's a point where it is incredibily difficult to even begin recovery, let alone continue limping
[15:09] <compdoc> ArchaicLord, I installed plex on a server recently
[15:09] <zhi> you talking about
[15:10] <cfhowlett> !cn | zhi,
[15:10] <ArchaicLord> I use to run Freenas on this box.. but the thing just feell over all the dam so changed to Ubuntu server.. but doing so I had to install the on a usb and crate the array on the 4 disks after..
[15:10] <zhi> see message pleasesay 1
[15:11] <compdoc> usb isnt as reliable as a small ssd. nor as fast
[15:11] <ArchaicLord> yeah.. time and moneyu
[15:12] <ArchaicLord> i am student with a wife and 2 kids.. cash is no existant
[15:12] <TJ-> ArchaicLord: keep an always-up-to-date image backup of the USB OS installation so in the event that device breaks you can always quickly create a replacement
[15:13] <ArchaicLord> I have a 4tb usb drive for such a thing..
[15:14] <ArchaicLord> I decided having a back up of the back up is also a good idea.. preferbly its kept offline which is why when i first raided the disk i also got the 4tb usb drive but i could never image the freenas over the network
[15:14] <ArchaicLord> so i just copied teh data..
[15:15] <ArchaicLord> i am now like ahrhhhh.... i spent all after noon learnign and setting up the lvm.... and now i prob have to destroy it and do it propperly with 1+0
[15:21] <ArchaicLord> ok is it possibleto change raid5 to raid 10 ?
[15:23] <Keitaro> hello all
[15:23] <ArchaicLord> hi
[15:24] <TJ-> ArchaicLord: no; you'd need to remove the existing RAID-5 metadata/labels and create fresh RAID-10
[15:24] <Keitaro> when we upgrade ubuntu and got a new kernel version do we need to change something with the uefi secure boot to take it effective ? or no need
[15:26] <TJ-> Keitaro: if the system already has a signed kernel image installed the upgrade will be to the later signed kernel image
[15:27] <Keitaro> T3 oki and how we can know that ? by default when we install ubuntu for the first time with the iso it is a signed kernel right ?
[15:31] <TJ-> Keitaro: if it installs in UEFI mode I believe so. Quick check is to list the installed kernel images with "dpkg-query -l 'linux-image*' | grep ^ii  "
[15:31] <Keitaro> oki i will do that thx
[15:31] <TJ-> Keitaro: the package names will end with "-signed" if the secure-boot kernels are installed
[15:31] <Seventeen> TIME HOSTNAME gnome-session[NUMBER]: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry....
[15:31] <Seventeen> TIME HOSTNAME gnome-keyring-daemon[NUMBER]: couldn't set environment variable in session: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[15:31] <Seventeen> TIME HOSTNAME lightdm: pam_unix(lightdm:session): session closed for user USER
[15:32] <Keitaro> TJ-, i do that after because if i do i need to restart
[15:32] <Keitaro> ^^
[15:33] <TJ-> Keitaro: you mean you're still using the installer?
[15:35] <noobie_> hello:) how i can block internet for app running by wine?
[15:35] <Keitaro> TJ-, no no just that i am working on windows atm so to go in linux to check i need to restart ^^
[15:37] <TJ-> Keitaro: ahhh, i see! have you thought of booting the Linux install from a virtual machine via something like HyperV or VirtualBox ?
[15:39] <Keitaro> TJ-, yes i already have debian on my vmware that why i install ubuntu in native
[15:46] <ArchaicLord> TJ-:  i removed the lvm...
[15:47] <ArchaicLord> vgdisplay returns nothing
[15:48] <beantaxi> Hi all ... I'm trying to give sudo rights to a brand new account on a brand new server. I've added the user to the sudo group, but when I try and sudo as that user, I am prompted for a password ... but I don't have a pasword since I only allow login via ssh + rsa. What do I need to do, to be able to sudo w no password?
[15:49] <TJ-> ArchaicLord: that makes sense
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> beantaxi  at some point, you had to enter a password
[15:50] <john__> hi
[15:51] <john__> i just tried installing core kvm on my ubuntu
[15:51] <tomreyn> beantaxi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/147241/execute-sudo-without-password#147265
[15:51] <john__> something went wrong
[15:51] <john__> how do i get rid of it so that i can go through the process again
[15:51] <tomreyn> beantaxi: but be aware that this allows this user to run any command as root. so if the user account is compromised, so is root and thus the entire server.
[15:54] <padan> doing a new install on a system with 3 nvme ssds, wanted to do sw r5 on them, but the setup guide seems to be missing the option to configure sw raid
[15:54] <padan> is that gone in 16.10?
[15:56] <ArchaicLord> TJ-:  is there a way now in madam to change the array or do i need to reformat each disk individual an re parttion them and create the array from scratch
[15:57] <beantaxi> MonkeyDust: I did not have to enter a password at any point. I created the account with --disabled-password, and added a public key to the user's authorized_keys as root.
[15:57] <TJ-> ArchaicLord: with mdadm you need to --zero-superblock  to remove existing metadata from the disks then start creating the new array
[15:59] <beantaxi> tomreyn: Thanks, I read that earlier. AHHHHhhhh now I get it. I thought I was covered, since my user is in sudo and /etc/sudoers gives privileges to the sudo group. But, I need NOPASSWD on a user by user basis
[16:01] <beantaxi> This might be OT ... but what's best/common practice, for scripting a file edit, like adding a line to sudoers? I'd like to do it remotely, rather than interactively on the new server
[16:01] <Globalirc> hello all i have a problem i installed php5 and when i give this command php -v i don't get the version i get this php5 -version -bash: /usr/bin/php5: No such file or directory somebody know how i can fix this ? this is installed version http://paste.ubuntu.com/23466372/
[16:02] <jatt> you shouldn't run commands as root
[16:03] <Globalirc> jatt ohh yea damit
[16:03] <k_> hi my audio stopped working all i am seeing is dummy output
[16:03] <beantaxi> jatt: agreed ... the only thing I am doing as root, is creating a sysop user which has sudo, and then I'll do everything else as sysop
[16:04] <TJ-> beantaxi: don't write to /etc/sudoers. Simply add a file per purpose in /etc/sudoers.d/ then you simply copy files into place using your orchestration/config tooling or scp
[16:04] <beantaxi> TJ-: Thanks. I like that.
[16:05] <TJ-> beantaxi: /etc/sudoers should end with the line "#includedir /etc/sudoers.d"
[16:05] <Industrial> Hi! The last time I shut down from Ubuntu the external monitor was connected and the laptop display closed. Now when I boot ubuntu it goes black when LightDM starts. With windows it works on the laptop display after I wake it from sleep but pressing the power button in lightDM doesn't make it sleep.
[16:06] <Industrial> What do I do to get my display back in Ubuntu on my laptop? I don't have the external display anymore..
[16:06] <Industrial> CTRL+ALT+F1 gives me nothing, no TTY to log in to.
[16:08] <ArchaicLord> TJ-: any way of checking superblock 0?
[16:09] <ArchaicLord> i ran mdadm --zero-superblock on all 4 disks in the previous raid
[16:10] <Industrial> Anyone? :-(
[16:11] <TJ-> ArchaicLord: that should be fine, that'll ensure when you create the new RAID device mdadm doesn't complain about existing metadata
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> Industrial  use the up arrow to repeat your question every 15 minutes or so, until someone enters who can help
[16:15] <Seventeen> Industrial: Can you get back into LXDE? Menu -> Preferences -> Monitor Settings
[16:17] <PonyLover> Hey everyone
[16:18] <ArchaicLord> # ls -l /dev/sda
[16:18] <ArchaicLord> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 0 Nov 12 16:07 /dev/sda
[16:18] <ArchaicLord> does this mean there is no partiton now on disks?
[16:20] <Seventeen> ArchaicLord: ls -l /dev/sda*
[16:20] <PonyLover> is there anyone else here who likes My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
[16:21] <ArchaicLord> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 0 Nov 12 16:07 /dev/sda
[16:21] <PonyLover> someone help me
[16:21] <ArchaicLord> Seventeen: brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 0 Nov 12 16:07 /dev/sda
[16:21] <PonyLover> what is going on here
[16:22] <PonyLover> this makes no sense
[16:22] <hippybear> PonyLover: take it to #Ubuntu-offtopic
[16:25] <motorolaman> Bluetooth Audio problems: paired but not connected, host down and other error messages are the usual result when I have paired and trusted headset.
[16:26] <motorolaman> when i reboot i usually have to remove the (already trusted and paired device) in order to reconnect it to play audio until the next reboot
[16:27] <motorolaman> this happens in Ubuntu, Debian, Mint and Arch Linux is bluetooth audio still flaky and not reliable?
[16:30] <Seventeen> motorolaman: Without any experience, I would guess yes.
[16:30] <motorolaman> i have tried 4 different headsets and 3 different usb dongles = same result
[16:30] <Globalirc> i have loop problem with ubuntu 14  how i can fix this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23466506/ because i tri ctrl+c and apt-get remove sendmail and the same thing he loop infinity.
[16:30] <Globalirc> try*
[16:30] <motorolaman> remove headset from trusted paired list, reboot then search trust and connect
[16:31] <motorolaman> i also experience this with Windows 7 exact same scenario
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> motorolaman  if it works on neither system, then it must be a hardware issue
[16:33] <Seventeen> Well in that case yeah it must be hardware rather than Linux.
[16:35] <motorolaman> anyone else use bluetooth headphones ?
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> vinyl records + 'old school' amplifier FTW
[16:37] <Globalirc> someone know how to end infinite loop with apt-get ?
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> Globalirc  ctrl-c
[16:38] <hippybear> hardcore
[16:39] <motorolaman> the only reliable way i can use headset is wired, bluetooth audio is still experimental
[16:39] <Guy1524> so windows has done it again, my computer boots into windows instead of ubuntu now
[16:39] <Guy1524> how do I change this?
[16:40] <Globalirc> MonkeyDust i know that but when i try uninstall the package caused this infinite loop he do the same
[16:41] <ArchaicLord> before I create this raid.. should I actually work out which disk is which ie.. d1 = sda and sticker them up before I create the new raid?
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> Globalirc  workoaround: use synaptic to uninstall the package
[16:42] <andywork> motorolaman: I have had some issues with this on various older distributions, however bluetooth audio works better in Ubuntu 16.10
[16:43] <andywork> motorolaman: I may have to turn on/off the headset one or two times until it starts playing my tunes, but after that initialization process, it works well
[16:44] <TJ-> ArchaicLord: yes, it always make sense to do that. I use the serial numbers from "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/" to confirm those
[16:52] <dhruba> hi
[16:52] <micaalica> hi hi
[16:53] <Opal> hey :)
[16:53] <Opal> heyyy :)
[16:54] <Fabrizio[m]> hi, are you able to read me?
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> Fabrizio[m]  hit harder on your keyboard, to make it more readable
[16:56] <Fabrizio[m]> I was asking because I'm using a matrix client, that is another protocol, so I wasn't sure you were ablet to read me
[16:56] <Fabrizio[m]> there are indeed some channels which I can't seem to be able to write
[16:58] <Mishari> Fabrizio[m],  ciao caro.
[16:59] <Mishari> ma, che fai ti lavita ?
[17:00] <Fabrizio[m]> cerco di capire se matrix funziona con irc
[17:04] <padan> is it not possible to get grub to install the bootloader on a software raid5 device
[17:04] <padan> ?
[17:05] <padan> any way to get the ubuntu installer to give me a better error message than "an error occured"?
[17:09] <ArchaicLord> TJ-: how do you remember all these things lol
[17:10] <fearwax> hey, could i get some help with something
[17:11] <hippybear> yes
[17:12] <Guest21170> hello
[17:12] <fearwax> ok so I recently cleared out my hard drive with gparted, and I'm trying to install ubuntu 16 but every time i choose any of the options from the grub screen my computer just displays a black screen
[17:12] <fearwax> i try booting from disk, black screen
[17:12] <fearwax> try installing, black screen
[17:13] <TJ-> ArchaicLord: lots of practice!
[17:13] <TJ-> ArchaicLord: also, to get exact syntax, "man mdadm" and *read* :)
[17:14] <hippybear> fearwax: idk, could be a graphics issue
[17:14] <hippybear> is this a newer laptop?
[17:14] <fearwax> no it's a few years old
[17:14] <opsJ> hello guys, when i watch youtube videos, my laptop lags too much. do you have any suggestions ?
[17:15] <DJones> !nomodeset | fearwax This might help,
[17:15] <fearwax> ive had it since 2013 i think?
[17:15] <fearwax> oh i tried nomodeset
[17:15] <fearwax> not sure if i did it right tho
[17:16] <hippybear> idk for sure :(
[17:16] <fearwax> is there a way to have it boot from a command line so i can have it tell me the exact problem?
[17:17] <ArchaicLord>  fair enough
[17:19] <TJ-> fearwax: "nomodeset" added to the kernel command-line in the boot-loader would be the usual way, if the problem is caused by modesetting. Other issues can be having more than one display device connected (e.g. external monitor on a laptop)
[17:21] <OerHeks> One can choose at the point try/install with F6 > nomodeset
[17:30] <fearwax> nomodeset isn't working
[17:31] <v7> +
[17:31] <v7> Hey ... how to install pepperflash on ubuntu ?
[17:31] <v7> I can't update it
[17:32] <v7> After executing this one: sudo update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --status
[17:32] <v7> It threw me this: Flash Player version installed on this system  :
[17:32] <v7> Flash Player version available on upstream site: 22.0.0.209
[17:32] <v7> So ... I guess that no pepper flash is installed ...
[17:34] <hippybear> v7: when you install google chrome pepperflash gets installed with it
[17:34] <v7> hippybear: If I want oto install chromiuim-browser ?
[17:34] <hippybear> chromium != Google Chrome
[17:34] <v7> roger ...
[17:35] <v7> hippybear: So ... I can't install normal Flash Player without Chrome ?
[17:35] <v7> That's really strange
[17:35] <hippybear> Flash player yes, pepperflash no
[17:35] <v7> I have flash player, but it's outdated
[17:35] <hippybear> flash is being outdated
[17:36] <hippybear> html5 has more support so people arent using it much
[17:36] <v7> Flash player is outdated, Peper Flash is updated ?
[17:36] <hippybear> do you apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[17:36] <v7> Yeah
[17:36] <hippybear> so youre ok
[17:36] <Mishari> where do you where do you goooo.....
[17:36] <Mishari> ..... my lovely.
[17:37] <v7> So .. the last question ...
[17:37] <Mishari> the last question is .... have a goon night
[17:37] <Mishari> :*
[17:37] <Mishari> bye bye
[17:37] <OerHeks> one needs to do 2 commands to get pepperflash working
[17:37] <OerHeks> !flash
[17:37] <v7> I don't want to use Chrome ... how can I use Pepper Flash without Chrome ?
[17:37] <hippybear> lolwut
[17:37] <OerHeks> not, pepperflash plugin installer downloads chrome LoLz
[17:38] <v7> Nope ... I've isntalled pepperflashplugin and no Chrome Browser is installed
[17:38] <OerHeks> ( to rip the plugin )
[17:39] <yomm> what's the status on the nvidia 304 driver on 16.04 & 16.10 ? None of the included drivers work. On 16.04 I can get a patched 304.131 driver to work (not on 16.10) and the 304.132 (even the newer ones on launchpad) don't work on both 16.04 & 16.10.
[17:40] <ArchaicLord> TJ-: Ok.. so raid 10 created http://paste.ubuntu.com/23466824/ ... so now I have to create a LVM on it then the lv and then the filesytem ?
[17:42] <TJ-> ArchaicLord: correct
[17:44] <ioria> OerHeks, seems something has changed : https://launchpad.net/~skunk/+archive/ubuntu/pepper-flash
[17:47] <OerHeks> ioria, great news, thnx!
[17:47] <OerHeks> no more 45 mb download
[17:47] <ioria> OerHeks, yrwlc
[17:53] <hellslinger> hi everyone, anyone here using a rx 4xx card with amdgpu driver? I'm curious how it's going, I'm thinking of getting one
[17:54] <v7> So ...
[17:54] <v7> I've installed Chrome
[17:54] <v7> Pepper is outdated
[17:55] <freakyy> hi all. i have ubuntu 16.10 and im connected to a screen over an ssh connection. now when there are links inside here, it shows them as unerlined but when i click them nothing happens - what can i do to make clicking urls open a browser?
[17:58] <DiamondSword> hello.. I have many ethernet connections that I'm not used when I want to see the available connections. see the pic: http://imgur.com/E6zCMI3
[17:58] <DiamondSword> how can I remove them on the list?
[17:58] <red-black> hai
[17:58] <DiamondSword> I think that all happened after I install vmware player on Ubuntu..
[17:59] <red-black> guys i how to hacking website with backbox???help me please.,.,. :)
[18:02] <red-black> guys.,.,please..
[18:02] <red-black> helloo
[18:02] <BluesKaj> red-black, wrong chat for that
[18:03] <fn2> ...
[18:03] <yomm> ...
[18:14] <JuJUBee> Why does the dropbox indicator give so much trouble?  If I use wifi, the indicator doesn't load/show since there is no internet connection until after I connect manually.
[18:15] <Seventeen> TIME HOSTNAME gnome-session[NUMBER]: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry....
[18:15] <Seventeen> TIME HOSTNAME gnome-keyring-daemon[NUMBER]: couldn't set environment variable in session: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[18:15] <Seventeen> TIME HOSTNAME lightdm: pam_unix(lightdm:session): session closed for user USER
[18:15] <Seventeen> ^^^^^Anybody know where I should start with this crap?
[18:19] <devsys> Hi all, I'm trying to add a secondary IP to my ubuntu server 16.04 but it won't come up. Is the syntax any different than it used to be in prior versions where you could do iface eth0:1 in /etc/network/interfaces?
[18:19] <ssobhan> hi can i boot my surface 3 pro from sd card
[18:19] <ssobhan> ?
[18:20] <Fohlen> heya guys. I'd like to give a user on my system particular rights for a service, via # Add service remod permissions for alexander
[18:20] <Fohlen> alexander ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/service remod *
[18:20] <Fohlen> the system is configured to be used passwordless via key-only authentication
[18:20] <Fohlen> anyhow this still asks alexander for a pass
[18:23] <serious-girl> I have a computer with 3GB of memory. Unity starts out smooth but as I open a few tabs and have libreoffice open it becomes horribly slow
[18:23] <serious-girl> this is not acceptable
[18:26] <hippybear> agreed
[18:28] <dury> serious-girl, still slow?
[18:28] <serious-girl> when i close the browser it returns to normal or if I close the music player or libreoffice
[18:29] <serious-girl> i need to have something stable to work on in order to be productive
[18:30] <dury> serious-girl, why don't you change the  X window manager
[18:30] <dury> serious-girl, something light
[18:30] <serious-girl> like what ? and how do I do this?
[18:31] <dury> serious-girl, like LXDE, or mate desktop
[18:31] <aruns> Hi.
[18:32] <aruns> Does anyone know how I can quit the CLISP interpreter? I am running it on Ubuntu 16.04, and it is GNU CLISP 2.49.
[18:32] <aruns> I have invoked a session with the interpreter on the command line.
[18:32] <dury> serious-girl, do you know the terminal?
[18:33] <aruns> I typed in the supposed commands for quitting the interpreter from the CLISP online documentation, but none of the commands seem to work.
[18:33] <serious-girl> no i do not
[18:33] <Fabrizio[m]> aruns, If I remember right it should work if you type quit or exit
[18:33] <aruns> Fabrizio[m]: I typed in both but it seems to output 'Break 1 [20]>'
[18:34] <aruns> At the moment.
[18:34] <tomreyn> !terminal | serious-girl
[18:34] <aruns> I even tried with the colons and those didn't seem to work either.
[18:34] <dury> serious-girl, right... so I got in your left side a bar, ok?
[18:34] <aruns> tomreyn: Which terminal emulators do you recommend?
[18:35] <aruns> tomreyn: At the moment I have Sakura and Terminator.
[18:35] <dury> serious-girl, sorry I mean you got in your left side a bar, ok?
[18:35] <jatt> gnome-terminal
[18:35] <Seveas> terminator is awesome
[18:35] <tomreyn> aruns: xfce4-terminal works for me.
[18:35] <serious-girl> I got it. This is looking very technical, like chinese manual
[18:35] <aruns> Trust me, Chinese is much more difficult.
[18:35] <aruns> xD
[18:35] <Fabrizio[m]> I don't know how can anyone live without a drop-down terminal
[18:35] <aruns> Oh, I also have Tilda.
[18:36] <aruns> That is awesome.
[18:36] <Fabrizio[m]> tilda is just god's gift to the world
[18:36] <aruns> What about for Mac?
[18:36] <aruns> As I have a Mac in the office.
[18:36] <Fabrizio[m]> anyway I'm sorry I don't think I can help you any further with your CLisp issue
[18:36] <aruns> I've got iTerm2 on there.
[18:36] <aruns> Fabrizio[m]: Ah that's OK, I will try and figure something out :P
[18:36] <aruns> It's just.
[18:36] <Guy1524> hey guys, on my HP Envy 15 w/ Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS, I have a sticker on my laptop that reads NVIDIA GEFORCE, however in lshw, there is no sign of any discrete GPU, and no option in the bios to enable or disable a discrete GPU
[18:36] <dury> serious-girl, did you get terminal?
[18:36] <Seveas> aruns: hammer to the screen and get a real computer :)
[18:36] <aruns> Seveas: Macs aren't bad.
[18:36] <aruns> Just overpriced.
[18:36] <tomreyn> serious-girl: take your time with it then. it's not that tough, though. you can install lubuntu desktop by typing this on a terminal: sudo apt update; sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop
[18:37] <aruns> Although mine's the 2010 MacBook Pro.
[18:37] <aruns> tomreyn: Apt-get is just a wrapper for aptitude, isn't it?
[18:37] <aruns> I think apt outputs more than apt-get does
[18:37] <dury> serious-girl, follow tomreyn
[18:37] <aruns> In terms of status messages and so on.
[18:37] <tomreyn> aruns: no, its a separate application doing roughly the same thing
[18:38] <Fabrizio[m]> otherwise I guess the -get would have had a space
[18:38] <Fabrizio[m]> after the apt
[18:38] <aruns> tomreyn: IIRC correctly, apt also has more colour display also
[18:38] <TheDiveO> My 16.10 (K)ubuntu installation doesn't boot correctly anymore, hangs after several seconds into the boot, then drops into emergency mode.
[18:38] <tomreyn> serious-girl: once you have it installed, all you need to do is logout of your graphical session, then, on the login prompt, choose lubuntu from settings / preferences,
[18:39] <aruns> tomreyn: Is she running Ubuntu?
[18:39] <aruns> tomreyn: As with Ubuntu, you have to click the icon.
[18:39] <aruns> On the login screen.
[18:39] <aruns> To change your desktop manager.
[18:39] <aruns> Unless she's running Kubuntu, Lubuntu etc.
[18:39] <aruns> I'm not sure if it's different with those.
[18:39] <tomreyn> aruns: possible, i don'T know what she's running right now.
[18:39] <Fabrizio[m]> even then it should be the same I think
[18:40] <aruns> tomreyn: Maybe if I take a screenshot of my login screen and I could send it to her, maybe annotate it?
[18:40] <Fabrizio[m]> every DE has a login screen which allows you to change the environment
[18:40] <tomreyn> aruns: you could ask the person you're talking about
[18:40] <aruns> tomreyn: I could lol :P
[18:40] <ioria> not if you use autologin
[18:40] <jema> hello
[18:41] <tomreyn> TheDiveO: does it say why?
[18:41] <tomreyn> (i'm pretty sure it does)
[18:42] <aruns> Fabrizio[m]: Ah, SO resolved my issue. It is (quit) in parentheses.
[18:42] <Fabrizio[m]> mmh
[18:42] <aruns> Why they don't mention that in the official documentation is beyond me.
[18:42] <aruns> But I rarely like official documentation for anything.
[18:42] <ioria> aruns, http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/lcl50/ug/ug-17.html
[18:42] <Fabrizio[m]> I thought about it, but wasn't sure enough
[18:43] <Fabrizio[m]> it makes sense, considering the lisp language
[18:43] <aruns> ioria: Yeah, I found it on Stack Overflow lol. Thanks, though.
[18:43] <ioria> aruns, no prob
[18:43] <aruns> It's like, I use PHP quite a lot, but I hate the official documentation.
[18:43] <aruns> They don't make it easy to understand for those new to programming in general, and they don't give enough code examples.
[18:43] <ioria> well, don't tell Stallman
[18:44] <aruns> Oh, is Mr RMS a huge PHP proponent?
[18:44] <aruns> :P
[18:44] <TheDiveO> tomreyn: yes, of course: it fails on (re?) mounting my / and swap partitions with a timeout.
[18:45] <soshick> Hi
[18:45] <tomreyn> TheDiveO: did you make any changes which could have broken it?
[18:45] <TJ-> TheDiveO: have you tried booting it with an older kernel, from the boot menu > Advanced options, sub-menu?
[18:46] <soshick> how come Ubuntu works much slower than Windows 7 at my laptop? Did I set something wrong?
[18:46] <arooni> i have ubuntu 16.04 on my t420 lenovo laptop.  apparently everytime i take the laptop to suspend; and then resume it seems to have a kernel panic (caps lock button flashing).  there are some updates i can install; but anything else i can do?
[18:46] <TJ-> soshick: it depends what aspect is slower. Accessing storage devices? drawing the screen? doing CPU intensive tasks?
[18:46] <TheDiveO> tomreyn: Yes, doesn't change anything, tried three or four of previous kernels. HDD otherwise seems to work correctly, gets mounted ro on boot and no issues. fscl
[18:47] <jatt> arooni: install a newer kernel and check whether the issue is solved: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[18:47] <TheDiveO> tomreyn: fsck'd also without any apparent defects
[18:48] <soshick> TJ-:  even when I type an address on firefox. Some times words follows behind the keyboard..
[18:48] <tomreyn> TheDiveO: my question was whether you made any changes which may have introduced this problem - since you seems to imply it worked fine before?
[18:49] <tomreyn> like, other than just installing ubuntu updates
[18:49] <TJ-> TheDiveO: if it times out looking for the root FS, that is during initial ramdisk execution (initrd.img). That suggests there could be missing kernel modules or tooling to support the device where the root FS resides. Is it encrypted? is it RAID? is it LVM? is it ext4, btrfs, zfs, etc?
[18:49] <TheDiveO> tomreyn: woken up system today, did usual update which required a reboot, so I rebooted. Shutdown hung already. Rebooted. Hang.
[18:50] <TheDiveO> tomreyn: unencrypted, no raid, no lvm, it's ext4 standard (K)Ubuntu install
[18:50] <ioria> TheDiveO,  simply hangs or you get 'Welcome to Emergency Mode' or stuff ?
[18:50] <Fabrizio[m]> soshick: maybe you just need to update the graphic drivers
[18:51] <TheDiveO> hangs for 1 minute or so with boot screen animation, then drops into the "Welcome to Emergency Mode" stuff :(
[18:52] <ioria> TheDiveO,  so maybe you can access from recovery ?
[18:52] <TJ-> TheDiveO: Try intercepting the boot manager again, edit the kernel command line and add "break=mountroot" and boot - that'll drop you to a shell in the initrd *just before* it tries to mount the root FS and you can check the device that hosts it is present
[18:52] <arooni> jatt: which kernel should i have?
[18:52] <jatt> arooni: which kernel are you using now? (uname -a)
[18:54] <arooni> Linux LilArooni 4.4.0-47-generic #68-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 26 19:39:52 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:54] <TheDiveO> TJ-: okay, I'm now at the (initramfs) prompt
[18:55] <arooni> jatt: just ran the update + upgrade process; updated 150 packages or so;
[18:55] <arooni> and now it seems to resume foine
[18:55] <arooni> any reason not to enable unattended upgrades ?
[18:55] <TheDiveO> TJ-: df gives just /dev and /run yet
[18:56] <jatt> arooni: I don't think so I have them activated and works fine
[18:56] <TJ-> TheDiveO: OK, do you know which device the root FS is on?
[18:57] <TheDiveO> ioria: nope, doesn't help in that I can mount and continue boot, but then the AMD gfx won't be initialized correctly.
[18:57] <TheDiveO> TJ-: yes, sda2
[18:57] <soshick> Fabrizio[m]: how do I update the graphic drivers.. also the "hardinfo" is the good one to get info about harddrive?
[18:57] <TJ-> TheDiveO: try "ls /sys/block/" to see what devices are known right now. ignore all the ram* and so on, look for sd? mmc? and so on
[18:57] <ioria> TheDiveO,  that's normal, when you resume from recovery
[18:58] <TheDiveO> TJ-: ls gives me sda being available
[18:58] <TJ-> TheDiveO: if /dev/sda exists then try "grep sda /proc/partitions" to ensure the kernel knows about the partitions
[18:58] <TJ-> TheDiveO: if we know sda2 is known, you sohuld be able to do an "fsck /dev/sda2" to prove its OK
[18:58] <TheDiveO> TJ-: that works too, seeing sda with partitions 1-3
[18:59] <TheDiveO> TJ-: fsck gives clean
[18:59] <TheDiveO> TJ-: mount is by UUID, not device name
[19:00] <TJ-> TheDiveO: OK, so things are looking good. Now lets find out what the kernel has been told is the root FS: "cat /proc/cmdline" and look for the "root=..." parameter which will probably show a UUID ?
[19:01] <soshick> How do I check if my graphic card driver is updated or not. Would "Hardinfo" report help? https://paste.ubuntu.com/23467188/
[19:01] <TJ-> TheDiveO: cannot recall if blkid is in initrd, if it is, you can do "blkid /dev/sda2" if not try "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/" to see if udev's view of sda2 matches the expected kernel UUID
[19:01] <TheDiveO> TJ-: yes, its ref'ing the root partition by UUID
[19:01] <ioria> could a mismatch in the fstab uuids
[19:01] <TJ-> TheDiveO: if "root=..." and /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxx -> /dev/sda2 match then we can look further
[19:02] <TheDiveO> TJ-: blkid is present, gives me correct UUID (much fun as debugging IPv6 addresses)
[19:02] <TJ-> TheDiveO: as ioria suggested, now "cat /etc/fstab" check that also matches
[19:03] <TJ-> TheDiveO: these checks just confirm the disk labels haven't changed, which can otherwise catch you out big time in these situations
[19:03] <TheDiveO> TJ-: erm, no /etc/fstab here...?!
[19:03] <TheDiveO> TJ-: it's empty, 0 length
[19:04] <ioria> TheDiveO,  ls /etc/ftsab
[19:04] <ioria> TheDiveO,  ls /etc/fstab
[19:04] <viju> Hello
[19:05] <TheDiveO> TJ-: typo here, but my fingers automatically do fstab ;) but yes, my /etc/fstab is empty!
[19:05] <viju> I don't see mate in the list of desktops, I am using  16 .04
[19:05] <ioria> TheDiveO,  ok, but it exists ?
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> TheDiveO  have you installed mate?
[19:05] <TJ-> TheDiveO: that should be OK on a basic install because the running /init shell script gets the root device from the kernel command line via that root=... param
[19:05] <viju> MonkeyDust: yes I installed mate
[19:06] <ioria> TheDiveO,  you're not in recovery ?
[19:06] <TheDiveO> ioria: I'm in (initramfs)
[19:06] <ioria> TheDiveO,  oh
[19:08] <TJ-> TheDiveO: lets prove you can mount sda2. "mkdir -p /mnt/rootfs; mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/rootfs; ls -al /mnt/rootfs" and then if it is there, youn can explore
[19:08] <viju> I followed this https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/mate-desktop-114-for-xenial-xerus/
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> viju  you cannot logout, switch, login? is mate listed in this file     /usr/share/xsessions
[19:09] <viju> no
[19:09] <viju> It's not listed there
[19:09] <TheDiveO> TJ-: yes, this works (gives some ext2 ext3 warnings which should be useless me thinks)
[19:10] <TJ-> TheDiveO: that'll be the kernel ext4 driver likely, because it does fallback support for those
[19:10] <radik> hello
[19:10] <TJ-> TheDiveO: OK, so see what "cat /mnt/rootfs/etc/fstab" reports - is that properly populated?
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> viju  oh, you used a ppa? no need, simply type    sudo apt install mate
[19:11] <viju> MonkeyDust: okay, how do I remove that ppa and all that is installed now?
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> viju  with ppa-purge (or purge-ppa, i forget)
[19:12] <TheDiveO> TJ-: looks sane, has to correct UUID for / and says mount as ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> !ppa-purge | viju
[19:12] <TheDiveO> TJ-: btw, did no BIOS upgrades, changes, or anything; in fact didn't touched that system part for more than a year now
[19:12] <viju> MonkeyDust: fine and how do I remove the desktop, since it's not even usable to me now?
[19:13] <viju> Okay does that remove the packages as well?
[19:13] <TJ-> TheDiveO: OK, so let's have a working hypothesis that the initrd side might be OK, and lets try rebooting with "init=/bin/bash" on the kernel command-line instead, which should start a bash shell rather than starting systemd's init daemon
[19:14] <TJ-> TheDiveO: if that works we've narrowed the issue down to systemd/init
[19:14] <monolith> Hey
[19:14] <rexwin_> why can't I run visudo in my ubuntu system. sudo visudo runs perfectly. but in my other ubuntu system visudo runs perfectly?
[19:14] <monolith> I'm doing a cyber security competition in a vm
[19:15] <monolith> Don't worry, I'm not asking for help cheating
[19:15] <monolith> But while editing the PAM files, I believe I made a typo
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> viju  after you removed the ppa, logout and press ctrl-alt-f1 ... then: sudo apt install mate
[19:15] <monolith> And consequently locked myself out of root
[19:15] <viju> ok
[19:16] <monolith> Whenever I try using root: sudo: PAM authentication error: Module is unknown
[19:16] <monolith> sudo: PAM authentication error: Module is unknown
[19:16] <monolith> can't edit the file using startup media or something
[19:16] <TJ-> monolith: you'll need to reboot the VM in recovery mode to have a root shell to fix it, or else mount its file-system in your host and edit it that way
[19:16] <viju> that command is not found, MonkeyDust
[19:16] <TheDiveO> TJ-: done, am now in root shell
[19:16] <monolith> I tried using the drop shell
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> viju  what command?
[19:17] <monolith> Just remembered that the password is the root one, not user one
[19:17] <monolith> That would be my issue
[19:17] <monolith> Sorry for bothering you
[19:17] <TJ-> TheDiveO: That's promising! what does "cat /proc/mounts | grep '/ ' " show?
[19:17] <TheDiveO> TJ-: df gives / as /dev/sda2, clean
[19:17] <TJ-> TheDiveO: mounted rw, not ro ?
[19:18] <TheDiveO> TJ-: ups, its "ro", not "rw"!
[19:18] <TJ-> TheDiveO: OK, not a problem right now, that is eexpected
[19:18] <viju> MonkeyDust: got it working, it's add-apt-repository --remove ppa:<path>
[19:19] <TJ-> TheDiveO: but now we know the problem is in the initrd, its something to do with systemd/init and it remounting the root fs
[19:19] <TheDiveO> TJ-: says /dev/sda2 / ext4 ro, relatime,data=ordered 0 0
[19:19] <hemlpease> I have just updated my Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS to kernel 4.8.0.... ... are there any updates after that kernel or ?
[19:19] <TJ-> TheDiveO: but now we know the problem is NOT in the initrd - typo!
[19:20] <TheDiveO> TJ-: that was also my noob's suspection that there might be some systemd misham. And no, no systemd bashing here :)
[19:21] <TJ-> TheDiveO: so now you need to get systemd to output some debuig info. This could be painful since its debug output scrolls so fast and gets lost but it may pause when/if it has a problem, so reboot (again!) and add only "debug" to the kernel command-line
[19:21] <TheDiveO> TJ-: that's also the reason I'm asking for help here instead of just trying to switch to old device names
[19:21] <TheDiveO> TJ-: go ahead, how can I poke systemd?
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> hemlpease  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel
[19:22] <TJ-> TheDiveO: systemd has a neat facility whereby it creates block device service files at boot using 'generators'; I've had those go wrong on me at times so its possible you've been caught by something similar
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> hemlpease  nvm, that page hasnt been updated since january 2015
[19:23] <soshick> Please can some one tell me if my graphic card driver is fine with current instalation http://prnt.sc/d6fzk2
[19:23] <TJ-> TheDiveO: so reboot with "debug" on the kernel command-line, see if you can read any important clues if/when the debug text output stops. You may need to hit the escape key to see the text messages if you usualyl have a graphical splash screen at boot
[19:24] <TheDiveO> TJ-: now waiting for dev-sda3.device
[19:24] <TJ-> TheDiveO: Hmmm? "sda3" - what is that partition used for?
[19:24] <hemlpease> ok..
[19:24] <TheDiveO> TJ-: no, but it's also waiting for the UUID of my sda2 to mount.
[19:25] <hemlpease> I've found the 4.8.2 .. kernel
[19:25] <TJ-> TheDiveO: is "mount" included in the message?
[19:25] <hemlpease> question.. once I update to that kernel will I get automatic updates for said kernel or do I have to then get them myself.
[19:25] <TheDiveO> TJ-: now says that it has timed out for /dev/disk/by\x2duuid....
[19:25] <ioria>  respectfully i insist fot uiids mismatch
[19:25] <TJ-> TheDiveO: right, this does feel like the situation I encountered some time ago. which ubuntu release is it?
[19:26] <TheDiveO> TJ-: no mount messages to be seen anywhere; it's Kubuntu 16.10 with today's updates installed from official repos
[19:27] <TJ-> TheDiveO: let me see if I can find the bug report for the issues I saw
[19:27] <TheDiveO> TJ-: last OK before waiting was Started Initial check file system quotas
[19:30] <ioria> TheDiveO,  i got you wrong, or you said you can boot  , resuming from Recovery  (apart from the video driver issue) ?
[19:31] <TheDiveO> ioria: I can boot from recovery, but then I can't bring up the gfx card correctly, which is a big fail for me as this is my video editing and rendering station... :(
[19:31] <Hfjdindvnfh> I heard Ubuntu offer apprenticeships in London. is this true?
[19:31] <ioria> TheDiveO,  ok, but you get a gui desktop ?
[19:32] <TheDiveO> yes, but the display is low resolution while X11 thinks it has still the correct 2560x1440 resolution; so I'm seeing only part of my desktop
[19:33] <maria_o> Hi.
[19:33] <Hfjdindvnfh> Hello
[19:33] <maria_o> How do i make sure that my graphic card's driver installed right? /right driver..
[19:33] <ioria> TheDiveO,  can you open a console when you are in gui env ?
[19:35] <TheDiveO> ioria: let me see ... it's booting into recov at the moment
[19:35] <TJ_Remix> what a time to lose connection!
[19:35] <TJ-> TheDiveO: read my comment #11 about the systemd generators in bug #1410012
[19:38] <TheDiveO> TJ-: so what information do you need?
[19:39] <ioria> TheDiveO,  are you in console ?
[19:39] <TheDiveO> TJ-: I'm now in recovery mode in root shell
[19:39] <TJ-> TheDiveO: in "/var/run/systemd/generator/" are a bunch of targets, there will 1 or more ending in ".wants", and in those directories symlinks to systemd services required to make the parent device/UUID available. Check the UUID of your root FS is there and has appropriate services required to make sda2 avaialable
[19:40] <TJ-> TheDiveO: I'm going to have to leave off for now, got Pizza to make :)
[19:40] <rexwin_> why can't I run visudo in my ubuntu system. sudo visudo runs perfectly. but in my other ubuntu system visudo runs perfectly?
[19:41] <TheDiveO> TJ:
[19:41] <ArchaicLord> hey.. I am creating LVM.. i created the lvm group and now creatring the  logical volumes.. do i just create each one and specify a size or do I need to do something with physical extents instead
[19:42] <TheDiveO> TJ-: there are no UUIDs here...
[19:44] <TheDiveO> ioria: okay, now have a terminal while in Plasma session
[19:44] <ioria> TheDiveO,  terminal or you opened a console with ctrl+alt+fX ?
[19:45] <TheDiveO> ioria: whatever you want me to use, both of them open
[19:45] <ioria> TheDiveO,  terminal is good
[19:45] <bootproblems> hi guys
[19:45] <ioria> TheDiveO,  sudo blkid |nc termbin.com 9999
[19:46] <TheDiveO> ioria: termbin.com/qkt9
[19:47] <ioria> TheDiveO,  cat /etc/fstab |nc termbin.com 9999
[19:47] <TheDiveO> ioria: g9rm
[19:49] <TheDiveO> ioria: btw, am on kernel 4.8.0-27-generic x86_64
[19:49] <bootproblems> i have an ssd with win7 installed. I tried to install ubuntu on the same drive as a dual boot option. Now I cannot select OS in boot and it auto boots to ubuntu
[19:49] <bootproblems> I have tried boot-repair and using unetbootin to crease a bootable usb with the win7 iso on it....no luck
[19:50] <ioria> TheDiveO,  yes, the kern is ok
[19:50] <bootproblems> i also went through some forum threads but also no solution....like i tried to load the iso onto usb with dd but the usb would not boot
[19:51] <bootproblems> can anyone assist? I have a pastebin of the boot-repair created file
[19:52] <ioria> TheDiveO,  yes, uuids are correct
[19:55] <ArchaicLord> does xfs file system play nice with mac?
[19:56] <TheDiveO> ioria: my /var/run/systemd/generator has a "-.mount" ... is this correct?
[19:57] <TheDiveO> ioria: ah, looking inside, its my / by correct UUID
[19:58] <ioria> TheDiveO,  yes, it is
[19:59] <TheDiveO> ioria: is there a way to correctly bring up my gfx card from recovery? So I can work at least with my video station, as I have some video editing work waiting...? :(
[19:59] <ioria> TheDiveO,  paste xrandr
[20:01] <ioria> TheDiveO,   xrandr |nc termbin.com 9999
[20:01] <TheDiveO> ioria: nij1 ... fallen back to 1024x768, so not full 2560x1440 as I wrote previously
[20:03] <ioria> TheDiveO,   when you resume from Recovery, the video driver won't be loaded (it's like nomodeset)
[20:04] <ioria> TheDiveO,  another try ....  ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/  |nc termbin.com 9999
[20:05] <TheDiveO> ioria: 8nh5
[20:06] <TheDiveO> ioria: (this is from recovery, not from initramfs)
[20:09] <ioria> TheDiveO,  idk,  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[20:11] <_Sym_> Does anyone have a problem with nautilus in 16.04 when deleting files with the delete key?  Most of the time it works, but sometimes it totally locks up nautilus when I delete files with the delete key on the keyboard.  Right clicking on files and deleting from the menu is fine.  The problem is only with the physical delete key.
[20:13] <maria_o> Hi... how can I make sure that my Graphic Card's driver installed fine?
[20:14] <TheDiveO> ioria: still waiting for desktop, but booting recovery with gfxpayload=keep gives me full gfx
[20:14] <ioria> TheDiveO,  that's good, but  something available in apt full-upgrade ?
[20:15] <jatt> _Sym_: works for me on 16.10 files get moved to the trash on delete key press
[20:15] <TheDiveO> ioria: did apt update and full-upgrade; gives me 0 updates etc.
[20:15] <sweb> i use preseed for automatic installation but it's freez on select language on startup
[20:15] <sweb> ubuntu 16.04
[20:16] <TheDiveO> ioria: nothing in full-upgrade
[20:16] <maria_o> did anyone even saw me :p
[20:16] <ioria> TheDiveO,  cat /var/log/boot.log  |nc termbin.com 9999
[20:17] <TheDiveO> ioria: at least I can now work with Kdenlive and edit my video stuff for daytime work :) With that booting sequence I feel like back in those mainframe days when I had to do a dance to bring up a Siemens 7530 BS 2000 system in a multi-staged boot
[20:18] <ioria> TheDiveO,  hehehe
[20:18] <ioria> TheDiveO,  maybe a bug, like TJ- said
[20:19] <ioria> TheDiveO,  cat /var/log/boot.log  |nc termbin.com 9999
[20:20] <TheDiveO> ioria: looks very much like one to me too, as I wasn't fooling around with my system BIOS, drive partions, or something like that.
[20:20] <ioria> TheDiveO,  i see
[20:20] <TheDiveO> ioria: oczo
[20:21] <ioria> TheDiveO,  it's really like that ?
[20:21] <TheDiveO> ioria: yes!
[20:21] <neo_> hi
[20:21] <ioria> TheDiveO, you see all that garbage ?
[20:22] <neo_> how are you
[20:22] <TheDiveO> ioria: oh, are you refering to the console codes? When viewed on a console, the output looks pretty
[20:22] <ioria> TheDiveO, oh, ok ... i was thinking to a drive (disk) issue
[20:24] <TheDiveO> ioria: :) I already had forced a package refresh before I came here just to be sure that there's no sector corruption not caused by the drive but maybe by RAM or someplace inbetween
[20:24] <ioria> TheDiveO, right
[20:25] <ioria> TheDiveO, Dependency failed for /dev/disk/by-uuid/da7561d4-12a7-4cb4-82ee-0e4932e49678.  and stuff
[20:25] <neo_> help me into mainframe
[20:25] <ioria> TheDiveO,  systemd issue
[20:25] <TheDiveO> ioria: but UUIDs look fine to me, tried to crosscheck them several times (urg, as bad as chasing IPv6 addresses!)
[20:25] <ioria> TheDiveO,  a bunch of dependency failed
[20:26] <ioria> TheDiveO,  yeah
[20:26] <v7> How to update Google Chrome's Peppe Plugin ?
[20:26] <TheDiveO> ioria: well, that's fallout after mounting isses, right?
[20:26] <ioria> TheDiveO,  mmm
[20:27] <TheDiveO> ioria: what I really find strange that we have "-" and we have "\x2d" over and over again; but then, a google search turned up many situations where this seems to be fine
[20:28] <ioria> TheDiveO,  Timed out waiting for device dev-disk-by\x2duuid-2359\x2dD0EC.device , it's not fine i guess
[20:29] <ioria> TheDiveO,  it's your efi partition
[20:29] <v7> How to update Google Chrome's Peppe Plugin ?
[20:29] <ioria> TheDiveO,  are you booting in legacy mode, by any chances ?
[20:29] <OerHeks> v7, not?
[20:30] <v7> OerHeks: ?
[20:30] <OerHeks> pepperflash plugin is ripped from chrome.
[20:30] <maria_o> which is the most used irc client for ubuntu?
[20:30] <TheDiveO> ioria: am unsure at this time as I once set the BIOS and then never touched again for over a year, or even two years now. Let me restart and check...
[20:30] <ioria> TheDiveO,  ok
[20:31] <v7> OerHeks: uh ... crap ... how to use this awful Flash Player or Peppe plugin in Linux if I want to use smth. which uses it ?!!?!?!?\
[20:31] <v7> I have to use some web app which uses updated version ...
[20:31] <OerHeks> v7, if that *smth* asks for an update, ignore it or question that site
[20:32] <OerHeks> or that app
[20:32] <v7> coub.com
[20:32] <maria_o> OerHeks: Would you please tell me the most used irc client for ubuntu...
[20:32] <maria_o> with a user interface..
[20:32] <v7> OerHeks: weechat or hexchat
[20:32] <v7> The best I think
[20:32] <v7> I use weechat
[20:34] <ioria> Bashing-om, Emergency mode issue ... you know some ?
[20:34] <OerHeks> maria_o, i have no numbers
[20:34] <TheDiveO> ioria: I've checked and to be safe switched everything to UEFI, but still no luck, hangs again in mount and times out
[20:34] <maria_o> OerHeks:  which one do you use?
[20:35] <Bashing-om> ioria: Background ? .. Yeah I am aware of a few ways to boot up a ailing system .
[20:35] <ioria> TheDiveO,  all, started after and upgrade ... and before was fine ?
[20:35] <freakyy> Bashing-om: U there
[20:35] <TheDiveO> ioria: yes, after today's upgrade which forced a reboot
[20:36] <ioria> Bashing-om, http://termbin.com/oczo   a bunch of fails to mount the partitions
[20:36] <Bashing-om> freakyy: I am in the process of getting there, yeah .
[20:36] <TheDiveO> ioria: but maybe the issue came with an earlier upgrade that did not force a reboot...?
[20:36] <freakyy> Im having the same problem as yesterdaY again
[20:37] <ioria> TheDiveO,  the only updates that force a reboot, are kernel upgrade .... try an older kernel from grub
[20:37] <freakyy> Bashing-om: the nvidia card x not starting
[20:37] <ioria> TheDiveO,  but i guess you already did that
[20:38] <TheDiveO> ioria: already tried the previous kernel and it has the same problem. Older kernels are very old, should already have been removed, are a few minors older
[20:38] <maria_oo> lost connecttion with the other
[20:39] <ioria> TheDiveO,  very old... like what ? what you had on that system previously ?
[20:40] <Bashing-om> ioria: " Dependency failed for Swap Partition." .. Boot a liveUSB and verify the UUIDs and fstab ??
[20:40] <ioria> Bashing-om, already done :(
[20:40] <ioria> Bashing-om, they are correct
[20:41] <ioria> TheDiveO,  or is a fresh install of 16.10 ?
[20:41] <p0w> hi, looking for some help with vlc and getting dynamic range compression / volume normalizing to work
[20:41] <TheDiveO> ioria: for some reason there are still 3.19.0 images there; some leftover, probably on the boot partition? I've reinstalled 16.04LTS clean, but without wiping my root, as I wanted to preserve my HOME to speed up things
[20:41] <p0w> any input would be nice .. been looking for a while somehow it just doenst work
[20:41] <ioria> TheDiveO,  3.19 is vivid 15.04
[20:42] <Bashing-om> ioria: Not real handy with systemd .. but see about booting to terminal from grub ? //
[20:42] <TheDiveO> ioria: it's *fresh* 16.04LTS, then normal upgrade to 16.10 several weeks ago. Went smooth, no issues.
[20:42] <ioria> Bashing-om, he can boot (with some video issues) form recovery and resume ....
[20:42] <Bashing-om> freakyy: What says ' sudo lshw -C display abput the card and drivr ?
[20:43] <TheDiveO> ioria: yeah, old junk on /boot/, have to clean it some day.
[20:43] <freakyy> Bashing-om: I can't use any terminal it keeps going on and off and non terminal is available
[20:43] <crobot_> how do I install hexchat for my ubuntu via terminal?
[20:44] <Seveas> crobot_: sudo apt install hexchat
[20:44] <freakyy> I just did apt remove purge the driver reinstalled but it doesn't work
[20:44] <Bashing-om> ioria: In my mind points to a X layer issue .. what results in staring the GUI from terminal ? We get any hints in terminal ?
[20:44] <freakyy> It says starting nvidia persistance. Daemon but then nothing anynor
[20:45] <TheDiveO> Bashing-om: can boot into recovers using modified kernel cmd "gfxpayload=keep", then mount using check fs, then resume boot, and at least get to use my video editing workstation back to some working state...
[20:45] <ioria> TheDiveO, he can get a gui .... but only from resume
[20:45] <Bashing-om> freakyy: Remind me again. what release is this ?
[20:45] <freakyy> 16
[20:45] <freakyy> 10
[20:45] <freakyy> 16.10
[20:45] <ioria> Bashing-om, he can get a gui, but only from resume
[20:46] <ioria> Bashing-om, i mean, i can access desktop, but only from resume
[20:46] <Bashing-om> ioria: Humm .. that indicates a graphic's driver issue ... as in "recovery" the fall back driver is in use, no ?
[20:47] <ioria> Bashing-om, yeah, but the logs say 'mount problem' .... (confused)
[20:47] <TheDiveO> Bashing-om: no, no, gfx is not the issue; systemd may be, as normal boot hangs due to / and swap mount timeout.
[20:47] <freakyy> Bashing-om: I'll now try purging the driver and then do an auto remove then install it again
[20:48] <ioria> TheDiveO, i'm temped to suggest you a fresh install ... sorry
[20:48] <TheDiveO> Bashing-om: gfx is only because I need to do some daywork on this system, editing video with Kdenlive, so I asked for some workaround to get gfx from recovery.
[20:48] <Bashing-om> TheDiveO: ioria : ' wapon --summary ' tells us what ?
[20:48] <TheDiveO> ioria: thought about that too, but not with three work projects pending at this time
[20:49] <ioria> TheDiveO, yeah, try to comment out swap in fstab ... see what happens
[20:49] <freakyy> Can I do that In recovery mode and the system installs dkm for right kernel
[20:49] <ioria> Bashing-om, nice shot
[20:49] <ioria> TheDiveO, comment , not comment out
[20:50] <ioria> TheDiveO,  put a # in front of the swap line
[20:50] <TheDiveO> ioria: can try, but the log says that *all* mounts fail for /, swap, and UEFI/boot partitions.
[20:50] <ioria> TheDiveO,  i know
[20:50] <Bashing-om> TheDiveO: ioria make that swapon --summary . ouch misded that s !
[20:51] <ioria> TheDiveO,  run   swapon --summary
[20:51] <freakyy> Bashing-om: I'
[20:51] <Guest95016> Hi guys
[20:51] <TheDiveO> Bashing-om: /dev/sda3 partition 16729084 0 -1
[20:51] <freakyy> It didn'twork
[20:51] <ioria> TheDiveO,  it's ok
[20:52] <ioria> TheDiveO,  it's really big
[20:52] <TheDiveO> ioria: that's on the recovery-booted system
[20:52] <ioria> TheDiveO,  maybe too much
[20:52] <Bashing-om> TheDiveO: And try from the recovery mode ' mount -o remount,rw / (Note there is no space after the comma.) ; systemctl isolate graphical.target ' be aware - That does much more than just start the GUI, it also stops everything that is not a dependancy of graphical.target.
[20:52] <TheDiveO> ioria: why? it's a 16G RAM machine
[20:53] <ioria> TheDiveO,  you really need 16G swap ?
[20:53] <crobot_> Seveas: thanks
[20:53] <TheDiveO> ioria: no, I probably don't need swap at all, as render jobs run completely in RAM, otherwise...
[20:54] <ioria> TheDiveO,  let's try to comment it
[20:55] <ArchaicLord> TJ-: wow finnally completed it
[20:56] <peeps[lappy]> is there any cpu stress test utility that would be included on a live cd?
[20:56] <laclinux> yes
[20:56] <peeps[lappy]> or, alternatively how can I turn all fans on max to see how loud a computer can get
[20:56] <ArchaicLord> TJ-: ty for the help... so create raid1+0 array with LVM and LV shares... the share now auto mount on start up and shared in Samba which i can see in Windows
[20:56] <ArchaicLord> well happy
[20:57] <laclinux> peeps[lappy]  there is
[20:57] <Bashing-om> freakyy: What can you boot to ? terminal ?
[20:57] <TheDiveO> ioria: Bashing-om: rebooted with swap commented in fstab, but not any better, still timing out on mount
[20:57] <peeps[lappy]> laclinux, great, can you tell me what its called?
[20:57] <ioria> TheDiveO,  ok
[20:58] <laclinux> peeps[lappy] is called Blowfish
[20:58] <laclinux> it will test the cpu
[20:58] <Bashing-om> TheDiveO: What does the kernel show as mounted ' cat /proc/mounts ' ?
[20:58] <freakyy> Bashing-om: well I was able to type the command now output Is http://paste.ubuntu.com/23467660/
[20:59] <TheDiveO> Bashing-om: in emergency shell before or after remount?
[21:00] <freakyy> Bashing-om: it also says nvidia per distanced failed with result signal
[21:00] <Bashing-om> freakyy: That days you have a driver .. but which ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ? lets see what all is intalled ( driver conflict ?) .
[21:01] <harry_> hi
[21:01] <Bashing-om> TheDiveO: After the remount command . I do expect a GUI to start and thus able to do your work   If ya need other services yoy will have to enable and start them manually .
[21:02] <freakyy> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/23467669/
[21:02] <ioria> Bashing-om, he can boot to a gui ....
[21:02] <freakyy> Bashing-om:
[21:02] <TheDiveO> Bashing-om: remount works, but isolate does not help, as the system again hangs somewhere waiting for something, no GUI, nothing
[21:03] <ioria> Bashing-om,  but only from Resume ...
[21:03] <Bashing-om> freakyy: Humm , looks good ... can you start the GUI from the guest account ?
[21:03] <TheDiveO> Bashing-om: erm, I'm now in *emergency mode*, not recovery.
[21:04] <freakyy> Bashing-om: no gdm doesn't start at all
[21:04] <freakyy> The system won't run any gui
[21:05] <Bashing-om> freakyy: Rgen we look and see what X thinks . Pastebin ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' .
[21:06] <ArchaicLord> hmm ok new problem.. share on windows has not got permissions
[21:07] <freakyy> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/23467691/
[21:07] <freakyy> Bashing-om:
[21:08] <crobot_> so strange... quassel irc has no information about how to uninstalling..
[21:08] <izzno> Does anyone have any experience dualbooting 16.04 and 16.10? I tried installing the new 17.04 daily and that went wrong as it did not add my 16.04 to grub...
[21:08] <ioria> TheDiveO,  last try for me;  fsck.mode=skip  as kernel boot param
[21:09] <Bashing-om> TheDiveO: Let's bavk up and regroup . What do we see if you boot to terminal from the grub boot menu ? 'e' key for edit mose -> on the line starting with linux replace quiet splash and all after with the term systemd.unit=multi-user.target . Key combo ctl+x to continue to TTY1 .
[21:09] <Ice_Strike>  have NFS mount in fstab - if nfs server is down, how to setup auto retry?
[21:10] <ioria> TheDiveO,  or red this https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=213548
[21:10] <ioria> *read
[21:11] <maria_o> please can some one help me to find out how to uninstall the quassel irc
[21:12] <ArchaicLord> no worrie i solved it
[21:12] <TheDiveO> ioria: skip doesn't help; just rebooting again
[21:13] <TheDiveO> Bashing-om: okay, got TTY1
[21:13] <TheDiveO> Bashing-om: logged in
[21:13] <ioria> TheDiveO,  good luck,   Thanks Bashing-om
[21:14] <TheDiveO> Bashing-om: /proc/mounts has / aka sda2 properly mounted, says rw
[21:14] <p0w> sudo apt-get remove --auto-remove quassel-core
[21:15] <p0w> sudo apt-get purge quassel-core
[21:16] <freakyy> Bashing-om: ok i tried reinstalling the driver one more time but still didn't help
[21:16] <p0w> that should do it
[21:17] <p0w> maria_o
[21:17] <maria_o> p0w, Package 'quassel-core' is not installed, so not removed
[21:18] <Bashing-om> freakyy: Hummm " (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Deleting GPU-0 >> (WW) xf86CloseConsole: KDSETMODE failed: Input/output error " ... run a file system check ??
[21:19] <EriC^^> hey Bashing-om
[21:19] <EriC^^> how did the bios chip go my friend?
[21:20] <maria_o> how do I see the urlsnarf interface on ubuntu?
[21:21] <EriC^^> oops wrong channel
[21:21] <freakyy> Bashing-om: hm can failed to register client the name org. Gnome.sessionmanager was not provided by any. Service files
[21:21] <freakyy> Be the reason
[21:22] <freakyy> I'll do a file system check
[21:23] <TheDiveO> Bashing-om: thank you for trying to help! I was always neutral to systemd, but now I'm counting systemd as a failed project.
[21:23] <freakyy> How to do a file system check
[21:25] <freakyy> Ok found out
[21:25] <freakyy> Scanning file system now
[21:26] <Bashing-om> freakyy: easiest way is from grub, add the boot parameter ' fsck.mode=force ' .
[21:28] <Bashing-om> TheSpiochu: I too am not real happy with systemd, nor am I comfortable with systemd. it is different and I have a lot to learn .
[21:29] <freakyy> Bashing-om: it doesn't work
[21:30] <freakyy> I tried booting into rescue mode and then select fsck from the menu but it mounted all hdds
[21:31] <Bashing-om> freakyy: "it doesn't work" tells us nada .. what is "it" ? .. and did you do, what happened ? what did you expect to happen that did not happen ?
[21:32] <freakyy> Bashing-om: how do I add a boot argument
[21:33] <freakyy> Parameter
[21:35] <Bashing-om> freakyy: At the grub mneu 'e' key for edit mode -> boot parameters screen . look for the line starting with linux and add fsck.mode=force in place of quiet splash ( is what I suggest ) . ctl+x to continue .
[21:37] <freakyy> Ok The Filesystem doesn't seem to have any bad blocks or anything
[21:37] <freakyy> Is there anything else what could be the reason
[21:37] <freakyy> Its an ssd
[21:38] <freakyy> Bashing-om:
[21:41] <Bashing-om> freakyy: Ya got me .. I do hope the fact that it is a SSD does not enter in here .. a drive should be a drive, should be a drive . BUT SSDs have error checking built in ! .
[21:42] <freakyy> Ok
[21:42] <freakyy> So do u have any other idea
[21:42] <freakyy> What could be causing the problem
[21:43] <freakyy> Else I will have to reinstall
[21:43] <freakyy> But I don't have an usb drive yet
[21:43] <freakyy> Stick
[21:44] <freakyy> Bashing-om:
[21:46] <freakyy> Hm ok I think I can't fix it so ill wait until i get my usb stick back
[21:47] <freakyy> Thank you very much for your help Bashing-om
[21:48] <apb1963> anyone know how to install giplet?  16.04
[21:48] <Bashing-om> freakyy: Well, we can look at the GUI log file, see if there are any hints pastenin ' .xsession-errors ' .
[21:49] <Bashing-om> !info giplet xenial
[21:50] <Bashing-om> apb1963: ^ your source for giplet ?
[21:50] <apb1963> ok...  so lets change the question to.... how can I display my real IP address on my desktop?
[21:50] <ikonia> whatsmyip.com
[21:50] <freakyy> Bashing-om: oknwait
[21:51] <apb1963> no that requires a browswer
[21:51] <deezed> hello guys! do you know anything about ktorrent? I mean, if there is any problem with it? Because all of suden mine has stopped working properly. It doesn't download any faster than 2kbps nor upload anything. Can you help me?
[21:51] <apb1963> I want a widget of some sort
[21:51] <ikonia> apb1963: then write an applet that queries it
[21:51] <ikonia> its an open api
[21:52] <apb1963> no... I've had something before... but it's no longer working.  I can't remember what it's called or even if it was this horrid default interface or KDE.
[21:52] <ikonia> how can it be no longer working if you don't even know what it is
[21:52] <ikonia> that seems an odd statement to make
[21:52] <freakyy> Bashing-om: hm I don't have such a file in my home dir
[21:53] <Bashing-om> apb1963: ' ip route list ' ?
[21:54] <freakyy> Omg Bashing-om I installed the package xserver-xorg-legacy and now it works
[21:54] <freakyy> What does that package do
[21:54] <Bashing-om> freakyy: That blows me away that .xsession-errors file does not exist in your /home .
[21:55] <apb1963> really?  you don't understand how the IP address could display on my panel one day, and no longer display and I don't remember what the applet is called?
[21:55] <_Sym_> Does anyone have a problem with nautilus in 16.04 when deleting files with the delete key?  Most of the time it works, but sometimes it totally locks up nautilus when I delete files with the delete key on the keyboard.  Right clicking on files and deleting from the menu is fine.  The problem is only with the physical delete key.
[21:56] <ikonia> apb1963: I do understand that it's not working, but you must see how saying "I don't even know what it is" but then state "it's not working"
[21:56] <Bashing-om> freakyy: Wow !  . I have never seen xserver-xorg-legacy . What does the command ' apt show xserver-xorg-legacy ' relate ?
[21:56] <apb1963> Bashing-om, ip route list only displays local private addresses... not my WAN address.. and it's not an applet or widget, etc.
[21:56] <ikonia> apb1963: tools like network-manager will manipulate and display your ip, however if you want something different to that, you'll need to be specific in the ap name
[21:57] <ikonia> it would be simple to just check it in a browser though
[21:57] <apb1963> ikonia, I didn't say I don't know what it is... although whether it's a widget or a gadget or a doohickey that I don't know...I said I dn't remember what it's called.  You can verify this in your history.
[21:58] <tigefa> ask: display gnome monitor in desktop?
[21:58] <apb1963> giplet is apparently what is supposed to work for Gnome... whether Gnome and unity have any relationship that I don't know for sure but presume so.
[21:58] <ikonia> apb1963: right, so you don't know if it's an applet or a widget and you don't know what it's called, that means you don't know what it is
[21:58] <ikonia> apb1963: you have zero info on it other than "I've used it before"
[21:59] <apb1963> yes, that is correct.
[21:59] <ikonia> apb1963: so "you don't know what it is" then
[21:59] <freakyy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23467875/
[21:59] <ikonia> apb1963: unity uses a lot of gnome libraries so I'd be surprised if it didn't work on unity, although it's not impossible it won't
[21:59] <freakyy> Bashing-om:
[21:59] <ikonia> (whatever "it" is)
[22:00] <apb1963> Q1: How can I install giplet?  A: It doesn't exist in xenial.  Q2: How can I display my IP on my desktop?  A2: NObody knows.
[22:00] <freakyy> it was installed by another driver  Bashing-om and ...a fter i removed it ... and then today did apt autoremove ... it was removed again since t hen it didnt work anymore
[22:00] <ikonia> apb1963: a.) you'll need to build a package or install routine if one doesn't exist for your version a2.) use a browser, write an applet, curl the whatsmyip,
[22:00] <apb1963> Those were my questions and the answered received so far.
[22:01] <apb1963> s/ed/s
[22:01] <gebbione> hi, anyone has an idea of what might have caused this? Xfce notify deamon Unable to start notification deamon -> http://pasteboard.co/qulfWabSU.png
[22:02] <apb1963> thanks... i'll ask again later to see if anyone knows of an applet that works on unity which I guess is what I have.
[22:02] <Bashing-om> freakyy: Well .. " which is necessary for legacy drivers and non-Linux kernels.
[22:02] <ikonia> apb1963: I'd start searching the gnome applet list
[22:02] <ikonia> apb1963: they "should" work
[22:02] <freakyy> well yes it sounds strange but since i installed it it works
[22:02] <apb1963> where is that found?
[22:02] <ikonia> that would be a logical starting point
[22:02] <Bashing-om> freakyy: seems not a good thing to do to me .
[22:03] <ikonia> gebbione: look at that file location, see if it exists and the permissions on it
[22:03] <freakyy> hm =/
[22:03] <ikonia> apb1963: official ones will be on gnome.org somewhere probably.
[22:03] <freakyy> i guess ill just reinstall the whole system
[22:03] <freakyy> soon
[22:03] <freakyy> thanks for your help :D
[22:03] <apb1963> ok thank you, much appreciated
[22:04] <WWWOOOWWW> guys, i can not copy/paste in remmina !! :( anyone can help me solve this pleassseee ?
[22:04] <gebbione> ikonia, the file does not exist
[22:04] <ikonia> gebbione: so that will be the problem,
[22:05] <gebbione> well that is not the cause ... it is a consequence. I mean why the process would not be able to write the file in the first place
[22:05] <gebbione> anyway i ll do another update/restart
[22:06] <ikonia> gebbione: no, that is the problem
[22:06] <ikonia> the file is not there - that is the problem
[22:06] <Bashing-om> freakyy: Sometimes a fresh install is a good thing ... and this time keep a changelog of all changes you make to the system .
[22:06] <ikonia> gebbione: why the file is not there is a different question, what is the permissions, what does the log say
[22:07] <freakyy> Bashing-om:  will do thank you :D
[22:07] <freakyy> ill switch pcs now ... going to my laptop and use ubuntu-gnome there ;D
[22:07] <freakyy> i love ubuntu gnome ;D
[22:07] <apb1963> ikonia, there are no applets on that site; I'm going to wait until I can install a better DE.  Thanks anyway
[22:07] <Bashing-om> freakyy: All I have done is hold your hand . You done all the work :)
[22:08] <gebbione> ikonia, i dont see any deamon related logs in Xorg.0.log
[22:09] <ikonia> apb1963: https://extensions.gnome.org
[22:09] <zacktu> My upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 has a problem.  apt-get update works completely now, but apt-get upgrade has lots of error messages about tex/latex.  Is there a root of all this so I can remove or purge something to do with tex and solve this problem?
[22:09] <ikonia> apb1963: it looks like unity should support a fair chunk of them
[22:10] <ikonia> apb1963: ahh wait, no it doesn't, only earlier versions that where using more of gnome did, ignore that
[22:14] <Bashing-om> zacktu: I expect similar to MySQL 5.7 in the upgrade: see the release notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes . You may have to re-configure the data base .
[22:16] <Seveas> zacktu: tex-commmon and texlive-base
[22:17] <freakyy> Bashing-om:  ^^ ... on my laptop now. sadly it has an ati graphics card which isnt supported by 16.10 anymore :(
[22:18] <freakyy> now i have to use the open source graphics driver but it doesnt support fglrx/opengl
[22:19] <zacktu> thanks Bashing-om and Seveas.
[22:21] <Rinzler> Hi
[22:21] <Rinzler>  I need help on configuring /etc/network/interfaces for creating a monitor interface summonable by the gui. Any tip?
[22:22] <Bashing-om> freakyy: That is a fact in ATI .. they have thrown full support for open source - we have been screamming for years . and AMD has complied !. What you have in the kernel is what you have . Now the latest cards support the XXX-pro driver ( still built on open source ) .
[22:22] <maxyspark> I am new to ubuntu. Is there any command line converter to convert m4a to mp3?
[22:22] <Sophie_> Hello, any ubuntu guru ?
[22:23] <Seveas> maxyspark: ffmpeg is my goto tool for that
[22:23] <freakyy> XXX-pro driver? i have an ATI Radeon HD 7500M
[22:23] <freakyy> its older maybe 3-4 years old
[22:24] <maxyspark> thanx seveas! :)
[22:25] <Clu> I need help on configuring /etc/network/interfaces for creating a monitor interface summonable by the gui. Any tip?
[22:26] <Bashing-om> freakyy:  https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Amdgpu .. olmy the latest cards have AMDGPU-PRO support .
[22:27] <Seveas> Clu: what do you mean with a 'monitor interface' and with 'summonable by the gui'?
[22:29] <maxyspark> how can i run a shell script on startup automatically?
[22:29] <Seveas> maxyspark: depends on what it does. Either create a systemd unit for it or add it to your desktop startup things.
[22:30] <maxyspark> to run a localhost server
[22:31] <Seveas> systemd unit it is. That way you can also start/stop/restart it at will and get all the other systemd goodness
[22:32] <zykotick9> maxyspark: you might also want to check /etc/rc.local <- for an "easy" way to run a script at bootup...
[22:33] <Clu> Seveas: That I can enable it by network-manager.
[22:33] <Seveas> s/"easy"/bad and obsolete, especially for services/
[22:33] <Seveas> Clu: NetworkManager ignores interfaces defined in /etc/network/interfaces
[22:34] <zykotick9> Seveas: i must 1/2 agree with you ;)
[22:34] <freakyy> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Thames [Radeon HD 7550M/7570M/7650M]
[22:34] <freakyy> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Thames [Radeon HD 7550M/7570M/7650M]
[22:34] <freakyy> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Thames [Radeon HD 7550M/7570M/7650M]
[22:35] <Clu> Seveas: Then how can I start an interface setted in monitor mode with network manager at every boot?
[22:35] <freakyy> sorry!
[22:35] <freakyy> i scroleld up and couldnt see i pasted
[22:35] <freakyy> Bashing-om: hm, looks like my card isnt supported
[22:35] <freakyy> that's a pitty
[22:35] <Seveas> Clu: good questions. Can't find a way to do it in the gui
[22:36] <Clu> Seveas: There are some settings files in network-manager?
[22:36] <Seveas> Clu: /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections, but they are not meant to be edited by hand, use nmcli or the gui.
[22:37] <Seveas> unfortunately, I don't see a way in either (just checked nmcli) to enforce monitor mode. You could do a pre-up script that does it.
[22:38] <TJ-> Clu: Seveas NM can be configured *not* to ignore interfaces from 'interfaces' as well
[22:38] <Seveas> I think you need to tell us more
[22:40] <TJ-> Clu: Seveas "man 5 NetworkManager.conf" and see the IFUPDOWN section, managed=true
[22:40] <Seveas> yeah, just got to there
[22:40] <Seveas> interesting
[22:41] <Seveas> I'd still avoid doing that though, combining the two just smells like trouble
[22:41] <freakyy> good night all ;D also Bashing-om :)
[22:42] <exoalexander> my wifi sucks
[22:42] <TJ-> Clu: Seveas I seem to recall it is possible - via nmtui-edit - to support monitor mode natively too
[22:42] <maxyspark> hei how can I reply to someone here or mention him!
[22:43] <exoalexander> anyway how do i report a bug for Ubuntu 17.04 64-bit
[22:44] <Seveas> TJ-: not seeing it there, or in nmcli
[22:49] <TJ-> Seveas: no, i think it's via one of the options described in "man 5 nm-settings", under the 802-11-wireless "mode" setting, although it only describes "infrastructure", "adhoc" and "ap"
[22:50] <Seveas> that's an entirely different thing
[22:51] <Bashing-om> !tab | maxyspark
[22:52] <TJ-> Seveas: it's the equivalent of iwconfig's mode option, which includes Monitor mode alongside AdHoc, Managed etc
[22:53] <_Sym_> Anyone here running the latest LTS with a Skylake cpu and intel board?  I have to manually set mtrr_gran_size and mtrr_chunk_size on my grub boot line and I can not use the intel_iommu unless I disable the intel_iommu for the built-in intel graphics card.
[22:54] <_Sym_> Its like the mtrr does not see the correct amount of RAM on my laptop
[22:54] <maxyspark> ubottu: thanx
[22:55] <_Sym_> I guess Ubuntu does not work very well with the new intel cpus
[22:55] <_Sym_> and im not even using the latest
[22:56] <_Sym_> there are a ton of problems with Skylake
[22:56] <bekks> _Sym_: you are the first one ever I'm reading having a problem with a skylake CPU.
[22:56] <bekks> And for me, Ubuntu on Skylakes works fine.
[22:57] <Bashing-om> _Sym_: Maybe : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2328993 <- 16.04 install the i965-va-driver skylake .
[22:57] <_Sym_> thanks ill look at that
[22:58] <TJ-> Clu: Seveas it seems the Ubuntu NM packages don't have the NM_SETTINGS_WIRELESS_MODE_MONITOR - I worked with many months ago in some upstream branch but possibly it's not in the master branch
[22:58] <fbonte> hi everyone
[22:59] <_Sym_> Bashing-om, the kernel in the latest LTS (16.04) has severe pipe underruns with Skylake cpu and built-in intel graphics cards
[22:59] <_Sym_> And, it was only fixed in 4.8.7 stable
[22:59] <_Sym_> so, we cant even use the default kernel in the latest lts with skylake
[23:00] <_Sym_> at least skylake in combo with the built-in intel graphics cards
[23:00] <evga> _Sym_, how can I know if I'm using a skylake cpu with ubuntu ?
[23:01] <_Sym_> look at system settings -> details
[23:01] <evga> it says Haswell
[23:02] <sisoje> Hiz:
[23:02] <sisoje> hiiiii
[23:02] <_Sym_> Intel® HD Graphics 520 (Skylake GT2)
[23:02] <_Sym_> thats what will not work
[23:02] <evga> ok
[23:03] <_Sym_> unless we rebuild the kernel with the latest stable
[23:03] <_Sym_> or even merge in intel-drm-nightly
[23:03] <evga> is that possible with LTS ?
[23:03] <_Sym_> sure
[23:03] <_Sym_> i use kernel-pkg
[23:03] <evga> I mean getting the latest kernel on LTS ?
[23:03] <_Sym_> yes
[23:04] <_Sym_> just build it
[23:04] <_Sym_> you can build it into a deb file
[23:05] <evga> and what happens when apt finds an update ?
[23:07] <_Sym_> it will install it, but the new version of the kernel will still be on the top
[23:07] <_Sym_> the latest version will be the default selection
[23:08] <_Sym_> follow this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild
[23:09] <_Sym_> and use the last section (Using Ubuntu Kernel Configuration)
[23:09] <_Sym_> use the kernel config from your /boot
[23:09] <_Sym_> with make-kpkg
[23:11] <evga> _Sym_, what about the files at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/  ? are they legit ?
[23:12] <fooobarrr> I created a 1 TB raid 1 with mdadm from 2, 1TB drives. However I did not format the drives before creating the raid. The two physical drives still show up in gnome-disks, and they show the old partion scheme. The raid seems to be working fine, but I'm wondering if there are any issues with not having previously partiioned these drives, other than the OS thinking they still have some kind of layout
[23:13] <_Sym_> evga, sure they are legit.
[23:14] <jatt> evga: they are legit I run 4.8.7 from there
[23:14] <fooobarrr> one of the drives in the raid had the boot flag set, I'm wondering if unsetting that flag would mess anything uip
[23:26] <katkisson> Hi, guys, I'm a linux newbie. I want to clean install my 80GB desktop to have ubuntu. I would like to do the partitions myself. For 80GB on the hard drive, how much should I set the root partion, the home partition, and the swap to?
[23:27] <CoLdFeeLiNgS> join #solus
[23:28] <CoLdFeeLiNgS> #join solus
[23:28] <kk4ewt> try /join #channelname
[23:29] <mcphail> katkisson: why on earth do you want to have /home and / on different partitions?
[23:29] <lucas-arg> is there any progression with nvidia optimus technology in ubuntu??
[23:29] <kk4ewt> mcphail,  why not
[23:30] <mcphail> kk4ewt: for a start, it leads to dilemmas like the above
[23:30] <kk4ewt> mcphail,  that way i can replace the OS and keep my files in /home
[23:31] <evga> lucas-arg, I have an 840m optimus laptop and I'm using the Nvidia drivers to switch between intel and nvidia gpu ... you?
[23:31] <mcphail> kk4ewt: you can do that anyway
[23:31] <kk4ewt> mcphail,  and that is the way it has been done for 20 years
[23:31] <mcphail> kk4ewt: by whom?
[23:31] <kk4ewt> mcphail,  debian, redhat, etc
[23:32] <katkisson> because one guy had the same problem with his older 2008 laptop and set it up that way. I was having the same problem where after about a week I get a boot error saying it can't read or write to hdO, So, I did the three different partitions and it works great! But it had 320GB on its hard drive.
[23:32] <lucas-arg> evga, 950m but nvidia-prime drives causes my laptop to freeze, lightdm sometimes doesnt even log me in unity and... tearing tearing everywhere with nvidia drivers, 367 and 370 and every single version of them
[23:33] <mcphail> kk4ewt: it has never been default in ubuntu, as it is a silly idea
[23:33] <katkisson> I have an older desktop with only 80GB, so I was wondering how GB to alot to each partition.
[23:33] <lucas-arg> so my solution was to put nouveau.modeset=0 in kernel parameters and just use intels gpu
[23:33] <kk4ewt> mcphail,  we will agree to disagree
[23:34] <evga> lucas-arg, indeed I gave up using the 3D on this laptop with Ubuntu.. just using the intel gpu :(
[23:34] <mcphail> katkisson: having /home on a separate partition will not fix a disk which is giving errors. Just leave everything in / and relax, unless you have a compelling reason to do otherwise
[23:35] <mcphail> katkisson: micromanaging partition sizes is pointless for most people
[23:36] <mcphail> katkisson: if you must have a separate / and /home, 10--20GB should be enough for / depending on your needs
[23:36] <katkisson> ok sounds good. I don't have any problems with the desktoop, but I have put different linuxes on my laptop trying to fix the above problem. So, maybe that fix will work on that particular laptop.
[23:36] <katkisson> desktoop ha destop
[23:36] <lucas-arg> evga, sad... but no matter what distro u use u will always have this problem
[23:36] <katkisson> hahahaha can't get it right yet
[23:37] <Vern_> Need help cant login pls
[23:37] <katkisson> ok thanks a lot, mcphail
[23:38] <mcphail> katkisson: enjoy
[23:39] <lucas-arg> Vern_, what or where?
[23:39] <Vern_> Cant login to login screen on my dell laptop
[23:40] <Vern_> Its looping
[23:40] <lucas-arg> Vern_, did you install nvidia drivers?
[23:40] <Vern_> Its factory install
[23:41] <lucas-arg> Vern_, what video card do you have?
[23:42] <Vern_> Nvidia gforce
[23:42] <konrados> Morning :)
[23:42] <Vern_> I can login with ctrl f4
[23:43] <Vern_> But not to graphical
[23:43] <Guest14098> Hello. I upgraded Ubuntu to the newest version from the last; I'm really hoping I didn't frag all my encrypted /home stuff in doing so
[23:43] <lucas-arg> Vern_, try this... sudo nano /etc/default/grb and add after quiet nouveau.modeset=0 then ctrl+x Y so you save those changes, then sudo update-grub and reboot
[23:44] <lucas-arg> Vern_, press ctrl + alt +F2 or F3 to get into a terminal
[23:44] <Vern_> Ok
[23:45] <lucas-arg> Vern_, if the pc or laptop just uses nvidia gpu then install nvidia-367 sudo apt-get install nvidia-367 or if is has optimus technology just live with intel gpu
[23:47] <lucas-arg> Vern_, how did that go?
[23:47] <cofffeebean>   i switched back to v14 of ubuntu..,  i didnt see anything special really abt.  v16 ..
[23:48] <Vern_> It says its allready newest version
[23:48] <Guest14098> anyone know their ecryptfs?
[23:49] <lucas-arg> Vern_, did you edit /etc/default/grub?
[23:49] <Guest14098> gparted indicates that my HDD is still as full as it was before reinstall... but can't find anything
[23:49] <Guest14098> worried
[23:49] <Vern_> No
[23:49] <lucas-arg> Vern_, do so... reboot and then proceed
[23:49] <_Sym_> anyone notice how buggy pulseaudio is with bluetooth headsets on 16.04? The bluetooth headset will not connect to the a2dp sink after rebooting.
[23:50] <Vern_> I will
[23:50] <ptrz> hi guys. I'm 16.10 and used 'ulimit -c unlimited' (confirmed by checking ulimit -a) but I'm still not getting a core file, even when the program exits with "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[23:50] <lucas-arg> Vern_, is it a pc or a laptop?
[23:50] <ptrz> 'sudo find / -name *.core' shows nothing
[23:50] <ptrz> what am I missing?
[23:52] <_Sym_> Also, I still dont understand why the latest ubuntu lts has not fixed disabling the laptop trackpads when typing on the keyboard..
[23:52] <_Sym_> I had to manually patch unity-settings-daemon-15.04.1+16.04.20160701/plugins/mouse/gsd-mouse-manager.c
[23:52] <_Sym_> removing this line: g_ptr_array_add (args, "-t");
[23:52] <cofffeebean>   MY DRIVE FILLING-UP  was the main problem i had after upgrading to v16 from v14..,  i have both w7-pro &  ubuntu on the same 250gb drive  but after updating v16 of ubunto  it left me with 1gb of drive space ..
[23:53] <_Sym_> that "-t" argument breaks unity-settings-daemon
[23:53] <_Sym_> nobody notices that?
[23:53] <_Sym_> that bug is like 3 years old
[23:54] <konrados> I have only 2GB of RAM, I installed Kubuntu, because I like it, and now I'm wondering if this was a right decision. I would like to test LXDE. But only test. Is this possible & easy :) to have both of them? Like I used to have both Gnome and KDE and I could choose one of them on start
[23:55] <_Sym_> konrados, make a bootable usb stick that will not affect your system to test with
[23:55] <_Sym_> a live usb stick
[23:56] <Vern_> Laptop
[23:57] <Vern_> lucas-arg laptop
[23:57] <_____> hi
[23:57] <cofffeebean>   i havent tried kubuntu  but i did try lubuntu it works better on one of my y2k desktops  than any version of ubuntu does..
[23:58] <Vern_> Sorry im tapping from my phone
[23:59] <evga> _Sym_, talking about old bugs.. I reported a serious crash on wget when 16.04 came out and I think it's still there :)
[23:59] <Vern_> lucas-arg it sad something about possible broken package before