| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:37 |
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| knightwise | hey brobostigon | 08:38 |
| brobostigon | hi knightwise | 08:38 |
| knightwise | what are you up to this morning ? | 08:39 |
| brobostigon | voluntary job to go to 11am till 3pm. | 08:43 |
| knightwise | hmm on a sunday ? :( | 08:51 |
| brobostigon | yes. | 08:54 |
| knightwise | I'm cramming away on my chromebook a little. | 09:12 |
| knightwise | seeing how much fun you can have with a 200 euro machine | 09:12 |
| brobostigon | knightwise: :) | 09:15 |
| knightwise | and there is something delightfully wrong with running opera with its default Vpn client on a chromebook :) | 09:19 |
| brobostigon | lolz | 09:20 |
| ikonia | as I recall there are some keen gamers in here, I'm trying to hunt down a wireless arcade stick, like the old wildcard type device, even better, a double, anyone ever used/found one | 12:31 |
| ikonia | actually, wasn't called the wildcard | 12:32 |
| ikonia | thats the wrong name | 12:32 |
| popey | ikonia: to play with games in steam or other? (like emulators or whatever)? | 13:11 |
| popey | ikonia: http://www.jasenscustoms.com/ come recommended | 13:12 |
| popey | (not currently in stock) | 13:12 |
| ikonia | popey: thank you, non-steam games, emulation mostly | 13:15 |
| popey | I ended up buying a picade to do that kind of thing | 13:16 |
| popey | which comes with a reasonable joystick and 6 buttons | 13:16 |
| ikonia | so this is all being powered from my pi | 13:16 |
| ikonia | but my pi is hidden out of sight, and I want to play some classic arcade games with the full on arcade stick....but wireless | 13:17 |
| popey | ah | 13:17 |
| ikonia | looks just what I'm after actually, hard to get all the info on it as it's out of stock it seems most of the site is just empty about it | 13:17 |
| popey | i recently bought an 8bitdo SNES30 controller | 13:18 |
| popey | (not what you're looking for, I know) | 13:18 |
| ikonia | well, it is too | 13:18 |
| popey | They do a lot of different controllers | 13:18 |
| ikonia | I was trying to find proper wireless snes controllers | 13:18 |
| ikonia | ended up with logitech junk | 13:18 |
| popey | I found it near impossible to get it working with bluetooth on linux | 13:18 |
| ikonia | oooh I like a challenge :) | 13:18 |
| popey | so I ended up plugging the USB cable in, which makes it appear as a joystick | 13:18 |
| popey | mame "just works" with it in that mode | 13:19 |
| ikonia | yeah, usb would kill me, due to the location of the pi | 13:19 |
| popey | can't have a long usb cable? | 13:20 |
| popey | I mean, I know that's shit, but hey ho :) | 13:20 |
| ikonia | it would be quite an effort to run that, plug it, unplug it when done etc etc | 13:20 |
| ikonia | possible, but not first choice | 13:20 |
| popey | right | 13:20 |
| ikonia | 8bitdo look nice device, love the usa snes and jap famicon controllers | 13:22 |
| ikonia | they where always my favourite | 13:22 |
| ikonia | https://github.com/retropie/retropie-setup/wiki/Setting-up-an-8bitdo-Bluetooth-controller | 13:23 |
| ikonia | very well documented too | 13:23 |
| popey | yeah, and they do firmware updates and stuff | 13:23 |
| popey | ooh, not seen that page | 13:23 |
| popey | will give that a go | 13:23 |
| ikonia | looks like the key is matching the frequency to the firmware | 13:24 |
| ikonia | (without reading in depth) | 13:24 |
| popey | yeah | 13:24 |
| popey | if I got this working, I'd probably attach a pi to the TV in the lounge and use that for emulation stuff | 13:25 |
| ikonia | pretty much what I've just done | 13:25 |
| popey | hmm, very tempting | 13:26 |
| ikonia | be nice to have a stick to play mortal kombat and street fighter 2 though, | 13:26 |
| popey | I have a micro sd card in the picade which has everything I ever want to play on it, I can just duplicate that and put it in another pi on the TV | 13:26 |
| popey | hmmm, good plans | 13:26 |
| popey | I think this could be a go-er | 13:26 |
| ikonia | it's almost too easy | 13:26 |
| popey | yeah | 13:26 |
| popey | the only problem for me will be if I have enough HDMI ports :) #firstworldproblem | 13:27 |
| ikonia | i just upgraded my amp in the last 4 weeks, so I now have 8 inputs :) | 13:27 |
| popey | nice | 13:27 |
| ikonia | I saw this problem coming | 13:27 |
| zmoylan-pi | and not 11? :-P | 13:27 |
| popey | i don't have a big room for decent audio | 13:27 |
| popey | so have a sound bar on my xmas list | 13:27 |
| ikonia | ahhh thats probably the only thing I do like about my house is my living room, it's great for audio/TV | 13:28 |
| popey | nice :) | 13:28 |
| ikonia | so I'll make the most of it | 13:28 |
| ikonia | while hating the rest | 13:28 |
| popey | hah | 13:28 |
| ikonia | but it's all about offset/compromise of course | 13:28 |
| popey | ok, now trying to think of reasons not to just do this now | 13:28 |
| popey | as it's sunday | 13:28 |
| ikonia | you won't | 13:28 |
| ikonia | I tried | 13:28 |
| popey | I have a spare pi 3 laying around | 13:28 |
| popey | haha | 13:29 |
| popey | right, thanks :) | 13:29 |
| ikonia | it took my 8 minutes to set it up and get it working just nice, the rest of the time has been looking for a controller I like | 13:29 |
| ikonia | I'm sure you can invest 8 minutes | 13:29 |
| popey | already on it | 13:29 |
| ikonia | 7:30 and counting | 13:29 |
| popey | will take more time dding the sd than anything else | 13:30 |
| ikonia | I did it on am mac and I was shocked how quick it was | 13:30 |
| ikonia | approx 1 minutes onto a 128mb micro sd | 13:30 |
| ikonia | never seen it that quick | 13:30 |
| ikonia | although maybe I'm used to linux support of SD readers sucking | 13:31 |
| ikonia | so to use one with good support in the OS seems a treat | 13:31 |
| popey | this is a 32GB one that is full of roms | 13:33 |
| ikonia | I've got quite a few emulators going and wanted to store roms for quite a few setups | 13:33 |
| ikonia | didn't want to do it over nfs | 13:33 |
| ikonia | so 128gb seemed pretty cheap and easy | 13:33 |
| popey | wowzers | 13:33 |
| popey | thats a lot | 13:34 |
| ikonia | I think the whole lot comes in at around 85GB | 13:34 |
| ikonia | snes/nes/mega/master system/neo/mame/c64/amiga | 13:34 |
| popey | ah bum, turns out the one in my retropie is indeed 64 | 13:37 |
| * popey adds another 64 to the cart | 13:37 | |
| ikonia | I like your attitude | 13:37 |
| popey | hmm | 13:48 |
| popey | nothing on telly screen | 13:48 |
| popey | changed hdmi_safe=1 but still nothing | 13:48 |
| popey | it's up, I can ssh into it over wifi | 13:49 |
| popey | \o/ hdmi port oddity | 13:50 |
| ikonia | Hmmm I used to have that on an old tv | 13:57 |
| ikonia | it just never synced...ever | 13:57 |
| ikonia | luckily I changed the TV before I actually needed it to be working so never had to have the full fight | 13:57 |
| popey | all working | 14:03 |
| popey | just need to setup bluetooth thing now | 14:03 |
| ikonia | exciting | 14:05 |
| ikonia | watching your bluetooth situation as my digital guinee pig | 14:05 |
| popey | :) | 14:05 |
| popey | doing a dist-upgrade first as haven't done that for a while | 14:06 |
| popey | it didnt find the snes30 initially, so doing this to see if that fixes it | 14:06 |
| popey | glad I setup mac address thing on my router so I know the IP of this thing when it has no display | 14:06 |
| popey | also, need to sort the aspect ratio out, it's drawing a 4:3 box on my 16:9 telly | 14:07 |
| popey | which will be fine in game but in the uI I'd expect it to be right | 14:07 |
| popey | taking ages, i think the wifi on the pi is a bit tardy | 14:08 |
| * popey unloads the washing machine while that does its thing | 14:10 | |
| popey | will have to finish this later, kids dragging me out of the house to go pokemon hunting | 14:16 |
| popey | ikonia: well, it found the device and associated.. so that's a step forward :) | 15:30 |
| ikonia | good good | 15:35 |
| ikonia | you are my canary in the cage as I hover above the "buy" button | 15:35 |
| popey | bah, it's really ropey | 15:39 |
| popey | like, it connected but can't see the controller in emulationstation | 15:40 |
| popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/23471231/ | 15:42 |
| popey | barfs when pairing | 15:42 |
| popey | exobuzz: you managed to get an 8bitdo controller paired with retropie? | 15:44 |
| popey | ah, looks like https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/issues/1213 | 15:44 |
| popey | \o/ success | 15:47 |
| popey | problem is how do you do insert coin in mame? | 15:52 |
| popey | i think i need a bluetooth keyboard as well as the controller | 15:53 |
| ikonia | you can map auto coin insert | 15:57 |
| ikonia | I used to do that in many years gone by | 15:58 |
| ikonia | must still be possible | 15:58 |
| popey | found my wireless keyboard | 15:59 |
| exobuzz | popey, yep. I have 3 of them | 15:59 |
| exobuzz | popey, https://github.com/retropie/retropie-setup/wiki/Setting-up-an-8bitdo-Bluetooth-controller | 15:59 |
| popey | finally got it working, booting with START+R | 15:59 |
| exobuzz | yeah. you have to power on in the right mode | 15:59 |
| popey | ya, used that, it was a bit flaky in places | 15:59 |
| popey | hm, no audio | 16:01 |
| Spearo | join | 16:05 |
| exobuzz | popey, on retropie ? hdmi or jack ? | 16:32 |
| popey | hdmi | 16:41 |
| popey | i think i previously had it configured for my picades, so had audio going over the jack | 16:41 |
| popey | need to tell it to go over hdmi now it's in the telly | 16:41 |
| popey | pretty neat that I can ssh in, and run the config tool to tell retropie to use hdmi for audio out | 17:14 |
| popey | \o/ Introducing Sam to some classic arcade games like Marble Madness :) | 18:39 |
| penguin42 | how does he like them? | 18:40 |
| popey | well, he's taken the controller from me and is now playing Fifa on the megadrive | 19:06 |
| popey | so my idea of playing games myself is out the window | 19:06 |
| popey | when it first started he went "WOW! These graphics are terrible" | 19:06 |
| popey | I did point out this was 20 years ago, 10 years before he was even born | 19:06 |
| diddledan | megadrive graphics are bad?! | 19:06 |
| popey | his reference point is fifa 2017 | 19:07 |
| diddledan | we were spoilt with megadrives as kids! | 19:07 |
| popey | i never had any consoles as a kid | 19:07 |
| diddledan | they were so advanced that I didn't ever have one | 19:08 |
| diddledan | I had to go round a friend's to play with one | 19:08 |
| exobuzz | marble madness is great - megadrive version is the best home conversion too I think | 19:18 |
| ali1234 | megadrive graphics were bad compared to their contemporaries, yes | 19:18 |
| diddledan | megadrive was the last popular cartridge console AFAICT | 19:28 |
| diddledan | after that we had PSX | 19:28 |
| ali1234 | N64 | 19:28 |
| ali1234 | the snes was also released later and outsold the genesis | 19:29 |
| diddledan | fair dinkum then :-) | 19:30 |
| diddledan | perhaps I was just in a backwards town :-p | 19:30 |
| ali1234 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles#Home_game_consoles | 19:30 |
| zmoylan-pi | megadrive graphics were decades beyond my 8bit spectrum yet when i installed an emulator on my brothers pc a decade back his kids were all over it till he deleted the emulator as he needed to use the pc for work... jetpac was the favourite game... | 20:43 |
| diddledan | emulators are awesome | 20:50 |
| exobuzz | <3 spectrum - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-kkzl2foaQ / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_iXpKALQeQ | 20:55 |
| exobuzz | mazing stuff from the demo scene | 20:56 |
| diddledan | the demo scene passed me by | 20:57 |
| zmoylan-pi | it was great at the end of the spectrum era when every magazine had a tape on the cover with old full games... | 21:00 |
| exobuzz | hmm i have to disagree - towards the end, the magazines were so thin. I would have preferred content over tapes etc (but the tapes were good) | 21:02 |
| exobuzz | I guess it was inevitable - and the speccy mags like your sinclair did well to last so long | 21:02 |
| zmoylan-pi | people are still developing games for it... it's a solid little machine... :-) | 21:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | not much in the way of commercial releases mind... | 21:03 |
| exobuzz | the quality of the homebrew games is suberb though of course | 21:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | a single programmer could understand the whole machine from top to bottom and write a piece of code to maximise it's use | 21:04 |
| popey | that video is amazing | 21:06 |
| * zmoylan-pi is ripping audio version of yes minister to mp3s so is waiting before playing it... | 21:07 | |
| zmoylan-pi | 12 episodes on 6 cds... which will all fit on one cd once ripped to mp3... | 21:08 |
| popey | amazing what they can do with the z80 and no gpu | 21:09 |
| zmoylan-pi | were they're going, they don't need no gpu... :-) | 21:10 |
| popey | i just keep looking at it and puzzling how they did it | 21:10 |
| exobuzz | the first video is "no flicker" version - this one is how it looks on a tv I guess https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jmXzROb2l8 | 21:19 |
| exobuzz | lots of switching between two images etc to get extra colours etc | 21:20 |
| exobuzz | impressive tricks though - and lots of changing colour on every scanline etc | 21:21 |
| popey | yeah | 21:31 |
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