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wrstOmnifrog: too late in the year for lawnmowers00:07
Omnifrognot here00:09
Omnifrogit's leaf season00:09
OmnifrogI'm in a ery wooded area00:10
wrstahh00:10
Omnifrogvery *00:10
wrstdown with the lawnmowers00:10
Omnifrogmy best push mower is running really fast and I cant figure out why00:11
wrstcyberanger: formatting this 3TB drive has proven to be a larger pain than I thought it would be :)00:17
wrstOmnifrog: maybe it is in a hurry? :\00:17
Omnifrogheh00:18
Omnifrogwhy is the format a pain?00:18
wrstwell I don't know00:18
wrsti set it up with gpt00:19
wrstand it should just work but I think I found a guide00:19
wrstbut the drive was just showing around 750GB00:19
OmnifrogI'm not familiar with gpt00:20
wrstthe partition table format00:22
* wrst just knows the terms 00:22
* wrst doesn't know what he is doing00:22
OmnifrogI had no idea there was a new partition table format00:23
OmnifrogI'm reading about it now though00:23
Omnifrogah... "MBR works with disks up to 2 TB in size, but it can’t handle disks with more than 2 TB of space. "00:24
Omnifroghttp://www.howtogeek.com/193669/whats-the-difference-between-gpt-and-mbr-when-partitioning-a-drive/00:24
wrstwoo hoo! showing 2.7TB now00:25
Omnifrognot sure how I feel about the appropriation of the GUID acronym though00:27
wrstOmnifrog: what do you mean?00:30
* wrst may be a bit dense and doesnt' realize it00:30
Omnifrog“globally unique identifier,” or GUID00:30
Omnifrogas opposed to group user ID00:31
wrstahh00:31
wrstI'm stuck in backup restore land...00:31
wrstmoving my "server" to a more capable machine00:31
Omnifroghuh, a gpt has a redundant MBR00:36
wrstyeah, all I wanted to do was store a bunch of crap :)00:36
Omnifroglol00:36
wrstwhy do you need a redundant MBR?00:36
wrstI figured if your MBR failed you have much problemos and the drive was likely toast00:37
OmnifrogGPT drives tend to include a “protective MBR.” This type of MBR says that the GPT drive has a single partition that extends across the entire drive. If you try to manage a GPT disk with an old tool that can only read MBRs,00:37
Omnifrogit will see a single partition that extends across the entire drive. The MBR ensures the old tools won’t mistake the GPT drive for an unpartitioned drive and overwrite its GPT data with a new MBR.00:37
wrstunless you are an idiot like me messing with stuff you don't know about00:37
OmnifrogIn other words, the protective MBR protects the GPT data from being overwritten.00:37
wrstahh00:37
wrstok that makes sense00:37
Omnifrogthat link I posted is worth a read if you want to know more about gpt00:37
wrstI probably should becuase the days of drives under 2 TB are probably few and far between other than SSDs and that won't be long00:38
wrstin the past I always just through my drive in a usb enclosure hooked it to my desktop and used gparted00:38
wrstbut had to do this the oldschool way which is fine that's how I have always set up arch drives before on install00:39
wrstbut took me a while to figure it all out00:39
Omnifrogwhen you mentioned gpt I thought it was a new version of gparted, heh00:40
Omnifrogthen I looked it up00:40
Omnifrogdang, I must be living under a rock or something00:40
OmnifrogI blame it all the smoke00:41
Omnifrogblame it on*00:41
Omnifrogthe air here looks like I'm in China00:42
OmnifrogI could look directly at the sun today00:42
cyberangerwrst skimming the backlog sounds like it's fixed now?01:03
wrstOmnifrog: smoke?01:03
wrstcyberanger: yes, had a couple steps I left out when formatting01:04
Omnifrogfrom all the wildfires01:04
wrstthat's what I get for thinking I know what I'm doing01:04
wrstOmnifrog: yes we had smoke as far as cookeville a few days ago01:04
cyberangerOmnifrog heard it's mostly arsonists01:04
cyberangerNot natural01:04
Omnifrogit's been pretty continuously awful air quality for over a week here in Chattanooga01:05
wrstthat is very disappointing01:05
Omnifrogarsonists and idiots burning leaves01:05
Omnifrogthere are currently 59 wild fires in TN right now01:06
Unit193Not me I haven't been there.01:06
wrstsure you ahven't Unit193...01:09
wrstOmnifrog: I don't recall it being this drive in the fall in well forever really01:09
Omnifrogit's not been this dry in my memorey either01:13
Omnifrogmemory *01:13
Omnifrogthe water table here is lower than anything in recorded history01:14
wrstwe have been fortunate we haven't really bee so dry until the last 3-4 weeks01:15
OmnifrogI watered parts of the grass around the house for the first time in the last 20 years01:15
Omnifrogin the past I was happy to have it die back (less mowing for me)01:16
Omnifrogbut this is ridiculous01:16
wrstno rain in the near future I don't think?01:19
Omnifrogprobably not for the next 10 days of so01:21
Omnifrogthis was the view on part of the property this evening and it's better than it had been all day http://imgur.com/a/scWZh01:24
cyberangerThat's not counting NC, AL & GA01:26
Omnifrogyeah, they have their own fires to worry about01:34
wrstbeautiful place Omnifrog, stinks it is close to a fire01:35
Omnifrogif fire gets near here it will be a really big problem01:35
Omnifrogthere are no fire hydrants near here01:36
wrsthopefully you won't need them02:49
Omnifrogare you using xchat wrst ?03:35
wrstOmnifrog: no I'm using quassel, was actually just moving the core to a new server03:35
Omnifrogoh, quassel. nevermind03:35
wrstI like the client/core setup03:36
Omnifrogyeah, I just saw the join message03:36
wrstcan connect from anywhere, on anything03:36
wrstI know znc or the like will do it but quassel is a super easy setup03:36
OmnifrogI've used quassel before03:36
OmnifrogI really don't have a need for it though03:36
Unit193What if you never want to miss a second of IRC?03:37
Omnifrogthat would have been true in past years03:39
Omnifrogback when I was using quassel03:39
wrstha ha Omnifrog for me now I just have a setup I like so I just carry it over to wherever I'm hosting something03:40
OmnifrogI've been backing my way off the internet over the last few years03:40
Unit193I use the internet to communicate with people I like.03:43
Omnifrogok, I should clarify. I'm backing out of "social media"03:47
Omnifrogand some chatrooms03:49
wrstsocial media is pretty much stupid04:20
wrstfor the most part04:20
wrstor at least around election season04:23
Unit193I don't get on FB, haven't for years.04:29
OmnifrogI killed my FB years ago04:29
wrstI still have it but not proud of it04:36
Unit193My sister stopped using it this/last year. \o/04:36
minasotahmm, for some reason Papa John's and Dominoes cannot take online orders...21:27
minasotaBoth are having "technical difficulties"21:28
minasotaDamn, Russians lol21:48
wrstfirst the elections, now pizza, they have gone too far this time21:53
minasotatime for a riot :p21:58
wrst! yes22:27
* minasota can't make the "peaceful protest"... he's too full now. Time for a nap :)23:12

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