[07:29] <Symmetria> anyone awake?
[07:54] <MaNI> sort of
[07:54] <Symmetria> heh Im trying to get php with zts enabled onto my ubuntu box 
[07:54] <Symmetria> holy crap what a pain in the ass 
[07:54] <Symmetria> :( I need threads for my code :(
[07:59] <MaNI> and this is why php is terrible
[08:00] <Symmetria> heh php works just fine once properly installed if you're using it for web application development 
[08:01] <Symmetria> and yeah people can get religious about their programming languages and scripting languages, but honestly, I've learnt long ago to use whatever I can to produce what I need in the most efficient (as in fastest) way
[08:01] <MaNI> and the host happens to have compiled it with all the options you want :p
[08:01] <MaNI> don't get me wrong I'm not religious about languages at all, I use php myself a fair bit
[08:01] <Symmetria> thats not a fault of php, thats a fault of the the package maintainers that don't include certain options
[08:01] <Symmetria> or give you a seperate package that lets you install a version of it that does include those options
[08:02] <Symmetria> I mean, -zts and pthread, if you google, every second person wants those fuckin options ;p lol
[08:02] <MaNI> just saying it's where a lot of the hatred comes from - a language that is set  up in such a way that basic features differ a lot on different hosts is a recipe for pain thats all :p
[13:43] <smile> hoi :)
[19:53] <smile> bye :)