| TheMuso | What is the environment variable to use with Qt apps to use Mir? | 04:03 |
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| duflu | TheMuso: The binary ubuntu-app-launch does it for Unity8 | 04:18 |
| duflu | TheMuso: In Mir demo shells it is mirrun | 04:18 |
| duflu | The set of environment variables is nonobvious because one of them you have to take away rather than add | 04:18 |
| TheMuso | duflu: Ok thanks. Thought it was easy as an env variable like it is with Gtk. | 04:37 |
| duflu | TheMuso: Yeah it's not that easy. Qt requires a variable which exists in Ubuntu gets undefined, plus Unity8 requires extra setup above and beyond the environment before it is willing to run an app (which I think is unreasonable and something we will need to eventually fix with public outcry) | 04:40 |
| duflu | -gets +be undefined | 04:40 |
| duflu | We have the ability to just run native apps without any special setup, so we should make it that easy | 04:41 |
| * duflu glares at Unity8 people | 04:41 | |
| TheMuso | duflu: Thanks. | 05:00 |
| pitti | Good morning | 07:52 |
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| flexiondotorg | MOrning TheMuso pitti duflu | 08:52 |
| duflu | Morning flexiondotorg | 08:52 |
| hikiko | heh, morning desktopers | 08:53 |
| flexiondotorg | hikiko, Morning | 08:53 |
| duflu | God exceptions are evil | 08:53 |
| duflu | Sigh | 08:54 |
| * TheMuso waves hello. | 08:54 | |
| hikiko | use error messages and perror etc :) | 08:54 |
| * hikiko doesn't like exceptions either :p | 08:55 | |
| hikiko | hi willcooke | 08:57 |
| willcooke | morning hikiko | 08:57 |
| hikiko | flexiondotorg, good morning! | 08:57 |
| seb128 | the channel is waking up it seems! | 08:58 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers ;-) | 08:58 |
| flexiondotorg | seb128, Morning | 09:00 |
| willcooke | hey seb128 flexiondotorg | 09:01 |
| flexiondotorg | willcooke, o/ | 09:02 |
| Laney | hi! | 09:03 |
| willcooke | g'morning Laney | 09:03 |
| seb128 | hey Laney | 09:05 |
| Laney | hi willcooke, hi seb128! | 09:05 |
| Laney | how are you? | 09:05 |
| Laney | good weekend? | 09:05 |
| seb128 | did you all have a good w.e? | 09:05 |
| seb128 | doing good, though it's grey cold and rainy today | 09:05 |
| seb128 | w.e was quite busy doing some house-work (changing an old phone plug to an eth one in the living room, fixing a drawer in the kitchen that had lost its handle, fixing a new shelf, etc) | 09:07 |
| seb128 | you? | 09:07 |
| Laney | you grown up! | 09:08 |
| Laney | umm, went to the pub ... | 09:08 |
| seb128 | lol | 09:09 |
| seb128 | pub sounds nice | 09:09 |
| willcooke | lol | 09:09 |
| Laney | then on saturday went to the allotment, did some tidying and harvesting (cavolo nero, jerusalem artichoke, celeriac, nasturtium seeds) | 09:09 |
| Laney | and yesterday -> climbing and then coffee and cake | 09:09 |
| Laney | #notgrownup | 09:09 |
| seb128 | I did manage my days well, those small fixups still take longer that you though | 09:10 |
| seb128 | I wanted to go to get some coffee and appletart yesterday but failed at it | 09:10 |
| davmor2 | Laney: When you say you grown up! for some reason I thought the next line was gonna be me tarazan ;) | 09:10 |
| seb128 | but tonight tennis! | 09:11 |
| seb128 | (I hope at least, looking outside makes me unsure we are going to be able to play :-/) | 09:11 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 09:12 |
| seb128 | hey Dave | 09:12 |
| Laney | davmor2: good idea, /me moves to the jungle | 09:13 |
| Laney | seb128: it's the super moon tonight too | 09:13 |
| hikiko | hi seb128 Laney davmor2 | 09:13 |
| Laney | hoping the clouds go away | 09:13 |
| Laney | hey hikiko | 09:13 |
| Laney | how's it going? | 09:13 |
| seb128 | hey hikiko | 09:14 |
| davmor2 | Laney: there's a caravan park called Ebury Hill in shrewsbury you get some awesome night skys during the summer there as there are only a couple of Farms near it so no street lighting and the site lights are on top of the electric posts so next to know contamination from them either | 09:15 |
| TheMuso | Laney: Hope you have better luck. Its cloudy here at the moment, so no super moon, at least for my part of Sydney. | 09:16 |
| seb128 | Laney, just reading about that, it's going to be at the closest around lunch time, I don't think it's going to work out from here with that weather | 09:17 |
| davmor2 | TheMuso: no no no we've seen the films there are only clear blue skys in Australia you're not blagging us with that one ;) | 09:18 |
| * pitti returns and sees a lot of action in this channel -- good morning desktoppers! | 09:19 | |
| seb128 | hey pitti, wie gehts? | 09:19 |
| seb128 | pitti, how was the show on friday? had a good w.e? | 09:19 |
| pitti | seb128: gut, danke! Apparently you've been the most productive of us all this weekend :) | 09:19 |
| TheMuso | davmor2: Well I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but whatever material/media you have seen from/about Australia is greatly mistaken. :p | 09:20 |
| pitti | seb128: absolutely, yes! nice headbanging on Friday, another piano concert Saturday (what a contrast), and apart from some housecleaning mostly idling and avoiding the bitter cold :) | 09:20 |
| pitti | (well, we did a two hour walk, but brrrr) | 09:20 |
| Sweet5hark | moin | 09:20 |
| pitti | Laney: sounds nicer than household stuff anyway :) | 09:21 |
| pitti | moin moin Sweet5hark | 09:21 |
| Sweet5hark | heya pitti, seb128, laney, all! | 09:22 |
| seb128 | hey Sweet5hark | 09:22 |
| seb128 | pitti, sounds like a nice w.e, I should have one of those next week ;-) | 09:23 |
| davmor2 | TheMuso: but but but, crocodile dundee, prescia queen of the desert, mad max, and even strictly ballroom all sunny neighbours home and away I can go on :P | 09:24 |
| Laney | hey pitti Sweet5hark & TheMuso ;-) | 09:25 |
| TheMuso | davmor2: Well sorry to disappoint you. :) | 09:26 |
| flexiondotorg | Morning Laney davmor2 | 09:27 |
| flexiondotorg | And Sweet5hark o/ | 09:27 |
| davmor2 | TheMuso: no don't go shattering my illusions ;) | 09:28 |
| TheMuso | davmor2: :) | 09:29 |
| seb128 | flexiondotorg, how is your back btw? do you feel better now? | 09:30 |
| flexiondotorg | seb128, Much improved. I walk from Poole to Bournemouth and back yesterday. Really helped. | 09:44 |
| seb128 | great | 09:44 |
| seb128 | glad you are doing better! | 09:45 |
| flexiondotorg | Also amazing views of the moon at perigee :-) | 09:45 |
| seb128 | you found clear sky in the u.k? ;-) | 09:45 |
| flexiondotorg | Yep. | 09:45 |
| flexiondotorg | Last night was it. | 09:45 |
| seb128 | nice | 09:45 |
| flexiondotorg | Although it is closer tonight, will be cloudy. | 09:46 |
| flexiondotorg | Was complete clear sky at the coast yesterday. | 09:46 |
| pitti | indeed, here too -- nice full moon, but bitterly cold at night | 09:46 |
| flexiondotorg | Thousands of photographers there on the beach. | 09:46 |
| flexiondotorg | http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/newS/14885281.PICTURES__Not_quite_a_supermoon_lights_up_Dorset_skies/ | 09:47 |
| flexiondotorg | I think they were a bit too ficused on the moon, but this is what it looked like facing west - https://plus.google.com/+MartinWimpress/posts/A9QVQfchhPS | 09:50 |
| seb128 | nice view indeed | 09:51 |
| * flexiondotorg nips out to buy milk... | 09:54 | |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, hey, did you see the "[yakkety/libreoffice] Possible Regression" emails? could you check those/reply to Brian? | 10:23 |
| seb128 | they don't seem likely to be due to the SRU change from a non-libreoffice-maintainer eye | 10:24 |
| seb128 | just non frequent issues that had some 5.1 reports but no 5.2 yet | 10:25 |
| * duflu goes to find the moon | 10:35 | |
| seb128 | duflu, good luck and enjoy the view ;-) | 10:36 |
| duflu | Hmm, the moon is so super it's got powers of invisibility | 10:36 |
| duflu | Too low probably | 10:36 |
| pitti | Laney: FYI, I have a PR now for bug 1637758; I'll wait for Robert's review before uploading, though (and it seems he's currently landing a new upstream release too) | 11:06 |
| ubot5` | bug 1637758 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "lightdm greeter session not properly shut down at login" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1637758 | 11:06 |
| Laney | pitti: nice | 11:08 |
| Laney | do you know why usd doesn't go down with the session? | 11:08 |
| Laney | what tells it to die in a normal user session? | 11:08 |
| Laney | and why did that unified hierarchy patch fix it? :-) | 11:09 |
| pitti | Laney: I at least know for nm-applet -- unity-greeter just Process.spawn_command_line_async()s that without ever cleaning it up | 11:10 |
| pitti | i. e. there's nothing on closing the unity greeter session that would stop it | 11:10 |
| pitti | Laney: I think before it was upstart shutting down the session dbus on session closing | 11:10 |
| pitti | and nm-applet/u-s-d died with that | 11:11 |
| pitti | now it's lingering as it's PAM/systemd which closes it | 11:11 |
| pitti | Laney: as for the unified hiearchy, I don't have the slightest idea how that influenced that .. | 11:12 |
| Laney | me neither | 11:15 |
| Laney | it's all voodoo to me | 11:15 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: @yakkety regressions: only discussed the first one with brain (right at the sprint). havent rechecked or redicussed them since. | 12:17 |
| * Sweet5hark is having a look now | 12:19 | |
| * Sweet5hark curses at the fancy javascript-foo on errors.u.c. Just gimme the damn data. | 12:22 | |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: so looking at https://errors.ubuntu.com/?package=libreoffice-core&period=week I see nothing in the Top20 with "First seen: Ubuntu 16.10". | 12:25 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: and looking at one of the crashers that I got spammeed about (64e3163cddff439ffdde7cbe5bf031a0d3412ae3), has 35 events on Ubuntu 15.10, 15 events on Ubuntu 16.04 and _4_ events on Ubuntu 16.10. | 12:27 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: IOW, the detection algo there is nuts and just triggers on noise: something happening 15 times on the LTS is noise anyway. And in this particular case the regression detection freaks out about 4 events on 5.2.2-0ubuntu2 because accidentally there werent any events on 5.2.2-0ubuntu1. | 12:30 |
| Sweet5hark | so: 5.2.2-0ubuntu1 had the defect too, but wasnt deployed enough to show it. absence of evidence isnt evidence of absense and all that jazz: assuming 5.2.2-0ubuntu1 was more healthy is nonsense. | 12:32 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, right, what I think as well, let's just tell Brian to unblock it | 13:01 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, good suggestions in the email, indeed their "need to manual check for regression" is a easy to trigger | 14:01 |
| andyrock | muktupavels: hey | 14:04 |
| andyrock | gtk/window-decorator/gwd-settings-storage.c:208:36: error: ‘META_THEME_TYPE_GTK’ undeclared (first use in this function) | 14:05 |
| muktupavels | andyrock: hey | 14:05 |
| andyrock | I'm on xenial | 14:05 |
| andyrock | would be nice to add a check to be sure that metacity 3.20 is installed | 14:06 |
| andyrock | to keep supporting xenial | 14:06 |
| muktupavels | what metacity version has in xenial? | 14:06 |
| andyrock | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/VPvPBiBZ/ | 14:07 |
| andyrock | 3.18 | 14:07 |
| muktupavels | then metacity support should have been disabled. | 14:09 |
| muktupavels | andyrock: is not USE_METACITY set to 0? | 14:10 |
| happyaron | pitti: hey, would you mind to have a look at n-m in git when you have time? | 16:46 |
| pitti | happyaron: oh, nice! sure | 16:52 |
| pitti | happyaron: anything in particular you want me to watch out for, or just a general "looks OK and works"? | 16:52 |
| pitti | happyaron: you dropped Read-system-connections-from-run.patch, but that isn't upstream yet | 16:54 |
| happyaron | pitti: just the patch set | 16:54 |
| happyaron | let me check | 16:55 |
| pitti | happyaron: Read-config-from-run.patch was indeed accepted (not sure if it's already in 1.4.2, but that's easy enough to find out) | 16:58 |
| pitti | happyaron: dinner now, will look in ~ 3 hours | 17:00 |
| happyaron | ty | 17:00 |
| happyaron | I'm going to bed. | 17:00 |
| andyrock | muktupavels: i get the error if I disable metacity andccm decorator plugin at configure/cmake time | 17:01 |
| muktupavels | andyrock: what error? | 17:02 |
| dmj_s76 | Trevinho: andyrock: Had a chance to think about the HiDPI scaling issue in unity/u-s-d? | 17:04 |
| muktupavels | andyrock: just tried with -DUSE_METACITY=OFF and got error... | 17:05 |
| muktupavels | andyrock, trevinho: https://code.launchpad.net/~albertsmuktupavels/compiz/fix-build-with-use-metacity-off/+merge/310793 | 17:28 |
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