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knightwisemorning08:14
diploMorning all08:55
davmor2Morning all09:12
knightwisehey davmor2 diplo09:19
davmor2MORNING knightwise09:22
davmor2oop sorry about the caps there09:22
JamesTaitGood morning all!  Happy Monday, and happy Loosen Up, Lighten Up Day! 😁09:29
knightwiseWell that woke me up davmor2 :)09:33
knightwisebeen rediscovering the awesomeness of my chromebook this weekend09:42
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:45
* knightwise salutes the magnificent brobostigon 09:46
brobostigon:D09:48
foobarryi installed neverware on a laptop but didn't really get on with it09:52
foobarryi felt too exposed09:52
foobarryand uncomfortable about tying my gmail account so closely to a device09:52
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knightwisefoobarry: I use the chromebook for my business account and the chroot for my personal stuff09:54
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daftykinsi think it's about supermoon time in an hour12:37
daftykinsi strolled out last night to see how it was coming along - the patch of sky it was in was so bright it looked like a blue sky in just a single patch - http://i.imgur.com/bolYEhH.jpg12:38
daftykinshttp://imgur.com/a/9QiML couple more there12:40
foobarryall4 you SUCK12:54
daftykinso012:54
foobarrytablet out of juice and cannot watch on computer due to spinning wheel of death on linux12:54
ali1234Wat12:54
foobarrychannel4 sucky iplayer ripoff12:55
ali1234Who here is on a train12:55
daftykinsso it's not really the service but that you're trying to use it from Linux as usual :>12:55
foobarrywel;l it took 10 mins to login12:55
foobarrythen realised i need flash12:55
foobarrythen adblocker disabling12:55
foobarrythen it still doesn't work12:55
ali1234Theres a guy on this train with ubuntu laptop, ubuntu tablet, and ubuntu phone and hes writing an ubuntu app with qt creator and the ubuntu sdk12:56
foobarrynot me12:56
foobarrydoes he have a beard12:56
foobarryand black tshirt12:56
ali1234No12:56
foobarrydoes not sound legit12:57
zmoylan-piis there a secret ubuntu handshake?12:57
foobarryyes12:57
ali1234Yes but i dont know it12:57
zmoylan-pithat's because it's secret12:57
foobarryhttps://ubuntunigeria.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/ubuntu_610.jpg?w=46012:57
zmoylan-piif you can manage that on a train then kudos...12:58
zmoylan-pilooks like it would involve touching the floor of the train..12:59
ali1234Its relatively clean i am in 1st class12:59
zmoylan-pioooooh, posh....13:00
foobarryshoulder surf his github repo?13:00
zmoylan-pithen call the concierge and get a formal introduction... :-P13:00
foobarrycheck in ubuntu-phone channel?13:00
ali1234Or i could packet sniff the wifi13:00
daftykinsi never understood why anyone bothered to pay for 1st13:01
daftykinsor you know, you could be a human being and introduce yourself...13:01
foobarryvia irc13:01
ali1234You get a free cup of tea and you dont stick to the seats13:02
zmoylan-piare they wearing one of those talk to me badges handed out on the tube?13:02
daftykinsheh i just got a letter from the local gov warning me they're considering road resurfacing nearby... in November 201713:03
foobarrycolleague is kicking the desk in time to music. tad annoying13:03
zmoylan-piwell they have to chuck out the traffic cones and diversion signs 6 months before actually doing the work... :-)13:03
daftykins:D it's a funny little street down here that should really just be pedestrianised same as the high street13:04
daftykinswhich it leads onto13:05
popeyali1234: where in the world is this train?13:06
zmoylan-piif they did that then people wouldn't be able to abandon their cars there when they want to go to the predestrianised area...13:06
popeyflexiondotorg: are you on a train right now? :)13:06
ali1234Uts not flexion i know what he looks like13:09
popeyok13:09
popeydescribe them :)13:09
foobarryis it creepy to ask for a hpoto13:09
ali1234Lol13:09
zmoylan-pihe's in first class, he can get an official engraving of the passengers for a small fee...13:10
ali1234Er... Hes got brown hair?13:11
* daftykins facepalms13:12
ali1234Looks like a developer13:12
foobarrybut no beard?13:12
foobarrypny tail?13:12
zmoylan-pishoes or sandals? how serious a developer.... :-)13:12
foobarryrms tattoo?13:12
ali1234No, developer not sysadmin13:12
foobarrysuit?13:13
popeywonder if it's a canonical person or not13:13
popeywe have a bunch of UK based people13:13
Laneyeliminate them all one by one13:13
foobarrychange your text notification to the ubuntu bongos and ask someone to text you13:13
popeywell, I suspect it's not you Laney :)13:14
Laney#1: it's not me13:14
popey#2: It's not me13:14
willcookeMy money is on chrisccoulson13:14
popey(this may take a while)13:14
popeyali1234: is it a monster size laptop?13:14
daftykinsonly if speaking is disallowed13:14
ali1234A bit13:14
popeylike, not a lightweight thing like a macbook, but a chunky big battery thing13:14
ali1234Nah13:14
popeyoh, is it plugged in? if so, deffo chris, his battery is knackered13:15
foobarryplay this out loud https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qd_CX01sYg13:15
ali1234No13:15
popeyoooh13:15
ali1234Also i know what he looks like too13:15
ali1234I think13:15
popeyThis is the best game ever13:16
popey"Nerd guess who"13:16
foobarryglasses?13:16
ali1234No13:16
chrisccoulsonit's not me either ;)13:16
popeyhaha13:16
willcookeboo13:16
foobarrybelow 35?13:16
ali1234Probably but i am terrible at guessing ages13:17
popeyfacial hair?13:17
ali1234No13:17
popeypete woods maybe13:17
Laneyget a peek at the app13:17
ali1234It looks like a physics sim with boxes in 2d13:18
popeyooh, dan wood13:18
popeycommunity guy13:18
zmoylan-piyou should use avatar software to make a model of the person instead of taking a pic... :-)13:18
popeyhttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/FyzqhiMH0oB8a76wMARxeI65vc_RAABiP-xSMb_K0S7Vw78W6d_wgQW1__yZh2iRpkHuvtYO1RQ=w2324-h1307-rw-no13:19
popeyhim?13:19
ali1234No13:19
popeydammit13:19
popeymake/model of laptop?13:20
ali1234Hp13:21
popeyhttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/U0-8Ie1cyBuOVR0A3raTraVf5Y7OnDKqBWByIWz1F0o=s630-fcrop64=1,202b2ec9dfa0d135 maybe?13:21
foobarrydoes he look like anyone else we might know?13:22
ali1234That might actually be him13:23
* popey asks him13:23
popeyhe said it's not13:25
Laneyhaha13:25
daftykins* guy packs up and dives off the moving train13:26
Laneypeople that look similar to pete woods ...13:26
ali1234He actually did get up and walk down the train13:26
popeydid he leave his laptop?13:26
popey(user name on login screen) :D13:26
ali1234Yes but hes back now13:26
popeybah13:26
ali1234He closed it13:27
popeyObviously it would be far too easy to just ask him :)13:27
foobarryany stickers on the laptop?13:27
popey"Hello, we're playing a game" :)13:27
ali1234Ew hes signing in to outlook web app13:27
foobarrycorporate dude13:27
ali1234Not canonical then i guess13:27
foobarrymaybe he's a stuedent at a uni13:27
foobarryor phd13:27
zmoylan-pimight be required by a workplace/college13:27
ali1234Could be13:27
Laneytry and read the username13:27
LaneyI wonder when this crosses a line13:28
Laneyprobably at trying to read text on his screen13:28
diploAbout 10 mins ago :D13:28
daftykins^13:28
daftykinsit has for a while now - i'd almost rather join a US politics channel13:28
Laney:D13:28
zmoylan-piwhen you use liquid nitrogen to freeze his ram so that you can read it? :-P13:28
diplohahah13:28
foobarryis it mark shuttleworth in disguise?13:28
diploJust walk over to the guy and introduce yourself, I've had people do it to me before13:28
diploWe're a nice bunch13:28
foobarryhey nice phone13:28
Laneycould be rms though13:29
foobarrywhich ubuntu phone model is it?13:29
ali1234It might get awkward since i dont actually use ubuntu any more...13:29
ali1234Dunno its in a case13:29
diploWireshark it is then... :P13:30
foobarrywill arp tell you his laptop name?13:31
ali1234I sunno ii only have an android tablet on me anyway13:31
foobarrytermux !13:31
zmoylan-pitermux is quite good13:32
foobarryyou will have to ask at some point to satisfy curiosity of 30 geeks in irc13:34
zmoylan-pii like to think it's a good sign that a random geek on a train doesn't know every member of a small community...13:38
popeyIndeed13:39
flexiondotorgpopey, No, why?13:39
foobarryhow many ubuntu phones have been sold?13:39
daftykins4213:40
foobarrywhich is joey OMG so butthurt about ubuntu phones?13:41
* daftykins wonders what foobarry means 13:41
foobarrysome twitter comments he's mae about ubuntu phone have been very snarky13:42
daftykinswho?13:42
foobarryjoey from OMGubtunutntu13:42
ali1234Its kind of hard to say anything about it without sounding snarky tbh13:43
popeyflexiondotorg: nvm :)13:44
popeyfoobarry: didn't know he was specifically snarky about ubuntu phone.13:44
foobarryi'll find an exmaple13:44
popeyhe is of course entitled to his opinion :)13:45
foobarryhttps://twitter.com/omgubuntu/status/79309153380541235413:46
foobarryof course. it seems personal though13:46
ali1234Is he not makinng a joke about everyone saying its dead all the time?13:47
foobarrynot from his previous comments13:47
ali1234There like a post every day on redsit saying is it dead?13:47
foobarrythere is a tone to any phone comments he makes that sound quite anti. prehaps he didn't get a review copy and bore a grudge. i dunno13:49
ali1234Maybe it just sucks13:50
foobarrythe amount of youtube videos i've seen that get a battery pop up "5 mins remaining"13:51
ali1234I was not impressed tbh13:51
foobarryand i'm looking at the time left. are they gonna finish before shutdown?13:51
ali1234Battery life seemed okay to me13:52
foobarrysorry i changed track already. i was just watching a video by a kid on his laptop13:52
foobarryhe got the battery popup about 30secs into the vid13:52
ali1234Lol13:52
popeyfoobarry: that seems like humour to me :)13:53
ali1234If the battery ran out before they finiahed they wouldnt be able to up13:53
ali1234Load it13:53
foobarrypopey: in isolation but not in context of other offthe cuff comments he makes13:54
popeyFair enough13:54
foobarryi think he has a column in LXF this month13:54
foobarryshame about linux voice13:54
foobarryi find LXF and others so formulaic.13:54
ali1234Linux voice makes me think of the scientist from simpsons13:55
foobarry"you insensitive clod!"13:55
foobarryit does sound a bit like an activist political wing too13:56
popeyit had a stupid name before voice. can't recall what it was though13:57
ali1234Linux is just a terrible topic to have to make a mag about13:57
daftykinsof a newspaper column13:58
ali1234Youre nwver going to get a scoop because everything is done in pub13:58
daftykins*or13:58
ali1234Iic13:58
ali1234So the news swction is always going to be a month out of date13:58
ali1234That leaves ... Tutorials?13:58
daftykinsyep badly written little guides that are outdated within say, 2 months :D13:59
ali1234Depends on the topic but if, say, you can write 12 really good tutorials for a series you could just publish it as a book instead14:00
foobarrythe trouble with magazines is that they are often written by pseuds rather than experts14:00
ali1234Still better than blogs14:01
foobarryhere's an article about "screen". but it goes into enough detail for a beginner and nothing else14:01
zmoylan-pigreat bathroom reading if the wifi is weak or the battery is knackered :-)14:01
ali1234They could review commercial softqare... Lol14:02
ali1234That qould go down well i am sure14:02
ali1234Although that is probably exactly what linux needs14:03
ali1234There ia loads of commercial software for linux that nobody knows about14:03
foobarryalthough i like reading, i didn't have the strength to read a board game instructions and rules the other day so i wen to on youtube for someone to explain to me how to play it14:12
zmoylan-piali1234 must have gone into a tunnel :-)14:40
foobarryor bludgeoned for stalking14:41
foobarryor trying to get a photo14:41
popeyfoobarry: I do the same for things like fixing my washing machine. way easier to watch someone else take it apart than read the manual14:42
foobarrythe board game in question was scotland yard14:42
foobarryquite fun. reminds me of the adventure game on BBC2 in the 80s14:42
popeyoh that one that's on humble bundle14:42
foobarryyes, i have it irl too14:42
foobarryi also have lord of the rings risk14:43
foobarrywhich i have never opened.14:43
foobarrymy wife actually wanted to play board games for date night on saturday14:43
foobarryshe's more geek that me (relatively normal)14:44
foobarrymy colleagues don't think i'm normal cos i have hobbies14:44
daftykins:D14:56
daftykinsfriend of mine from the US was so keen on board games she brought some over to the island XD14:57
foobarrywhich ones?15:00
daftykinsticket to ride15:01
foobarryi saw that for a quid at the white elephant stall and didn't get it. been sad ever since15:02
foobarrycan't buy for full price now , since i know i missed a bargain15:03
daftykinscrikey: http://gizmodo.com/earthquake-leaves-cows-stranded-on-a-tiny-piece-of-gras-178894545715:06
daftykinsnevermind this is the source vid: https://youtu.be/LCXv9lhlIwU15:06
popeyaww poor cowses15:18
diddledan!cowsay moo15:32
foobarryapt-get moo16:04
daftykinsapt moo :P16:07
daftykins'apt' just needs clean and purge and i'd forget all about apt-get16:07
davmor2daftykins: it has16:12
diddledan:-o16:14
diddledanI know it got autoremove a short while ago16:15
diddledanergh dark already16:16
daftykinswell i don't see anything on the man page here on trusty16:16
diddledanwinter sucks16:16
daftykinsbut just think how much better about doing the things indoors you feel, when it's all rainy and windy!16:17
diddledanyou assume I go outside16:17
diddledan<-- hermit16:18
davmor2diddledan, daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23476261/16:18
diddledandavmor2: sudo make me a sandwich16:18
daftykinsE: Invalid operation clean16:18
daftykinsdavmor2: are you on xenial?16:19
davmor2daftykins: no16:19
daftykinswhat, then? because i'm on trusty and get the above16:19
davmor2daftykins: it's in 16.10 and 17.0416:19
diddledanzesty zits?16:19
daftykinsdavmor2: right so it's totally moot to claim it's there when it's version specific :P16:19
* diddledan pops some zips16:19
diddledanzits*16:20
daftykinsmessy16:20
diddledan:-p16:20
diddledanI never suffered with zits16:20
davmor2daftykins: and total moot saying it isn't when you are on an older version :P16:20
diddledannow now, childers16:20
diddledan:-p16:20
daftykinsLTS > non-LTS16:20
daftykinsdavmor2: you don't provide support much, do you?16:21
daftykins:)16:21
diddledandaftykins: how often do folk turn-up with 12.10?16:21
diddledan:-p16:21
davmor2Yes I provide lots of support that's why your system runs at all :D16:22
diddledanor 6.06:-p16:22
daftykins12.10 is EOL16:22
diddledanexactly16:22
daftykinsdavmor2: jokes on you! i don't use it16:22
daftykinshonestly though, you have to be specific about versions if you're gonna claim something does work16:23
daftykinsdiddledan: bit different to start bringing up stuff that's EOL o016:23
diddledanit was in response to the providing support bit16:24
daftykinsmind you i know this guy who refuses to move off 10.04... i think he keeps patching stuff by hand to avoid doing what needs to be done16:24
diddledanI was curio how many folk are on ancient stuff and still complaining that it isn't in their version yet16:24
daftykinsheh, then they add "oh and btw i keep getting these errors trying to update..."16:26
diddledan"apt-get is broken" <-- read: "I'm running RHEL"16:28
daftykinsyou say that but i did actually regularly get CentOS users coming in to try and get support16:29
daftykinsthey'd pastebin something and show their bash prompt with the [] and i'd know XD16:29
daftykinsthen they'd ask how as if i were somehow psychic16:29
diddledanI'm psychic16:30
diddledanno, wait, I'm psychotic16:30
davmor2diddledan: you're telepathetic16:31
diddledan^^ +116:31
daftykinsbit harsh :O16:31
diddledanpowershell is 10 years old?!16:32
davmor2daftykins: he called himself a psycho I just said he was bad at telepathy I think diddledan is being harsh on himself ;)16:33
daftykinsit's looking really grey out there and i'm expecting someone to show up and take all this old hardware i've cobbled together... no sign yet! hope he hasn't forgotten...16:34
diddledanwell to be fair, I am actually diagnosed as a nutjob :-p16:34
daftykinsyour mother had you tested?16:34
diddledanI had myself tested16:35
diddledanstarted-out as plain depression but evolved to a diagnosis of "depressive psychosis" :-D16:36
daftykinswhat if you were bias reading the results!?16:36
davmor2diddledan: wearing a squirrel outfit because all you clothes need washing doesn't make a nut job ;)16:36
diddledanloll16:36
diddledanno, that would make me a student :-p16:36
davmor2diddledan: no they couldn't afford the squirrel outfit16:37
diddledanalthough, now I need to buy me a squirrel outfit16:37
davmor2hahahaha16:37
diddledanthanks for the tip :-D16:37
* davmor2 expects to see diddledan next Halloween in a squirrel outfit or a bookcase outfit displaying various Nuts (Complete Nut Case) you're welcome if you need anymore outfit ideas just drop by ;)16:51
daftykinsooh i doubt he'd wait 'til such an occasion16:52
daftykinsdiddledan: i vote we christen you the Cadbury's Fruit & Nut fairy16:53
davmor2daftykins: now I got this stuck in my head https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJMAVfkI0io16:55
daftykinsi think that was diddledan in the caber!16:58
daftykinswow i never saw that one though, at least to my memory16:58
diddledanlol, yup, I'm the fruity nutjob17:03
* diddledan gets fruity17:03
daftykinsgreat, the guy at my local College said he had asked students to come and get this gear off me - now he's trying to suggest tomorrow17:03
diddledanbah17:04
diddledanthat's sucky17:04
daftykinsikr, try and do a favour...17:05
diddledanhttps://twitter.com/sfbookclub/status/79811302015292620917:10
daftykinsah yay the guy is gonna bring a car for 7 \o/17:11
zmoylan-pi!parrotsay diddledan want a cracker18:50
lubotu3zmoylan-pi: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:50
daftykinsyay the guy came and got everything \o/19:14
daftykinsat last it is done19:14
zmoylan-pinow you have space for crimbo tree :-)19:24
daftykinshaha, still don't own one19:43
diddledanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhP8EKqReAg22:11
zmoylan-pitis the season diddledan... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQkF7fpw-wI22:35

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